Saw this on a facebook comment. I feel this is at least

This is why we keep saying we're libertarian, not Nazi.

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>>137528680
>People still believe we're in a free society

>>137528680

So I can punch people who have Commie flags? Good to know.

>>137528680
Simple response:

>So do you agree that the AntiFa flags are an incitement as well and are a call to action for violence?

>>137528680
You don't need fallacies, you just need the Supreme Court's decisions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

>>137529089
By the logic of the pic, then yes it should be fine. But we both know different.

>>137529316
I feel I knew this at one point. Thank you for reminding me.

>>137529176
I just linked https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

>>137529911
Which works, but I just think it would be funnier to see them try to explain why the one flag is not incitement while the other is.

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>>137528680
>mfw when i want a new world war just so they can't say "the last world war" anymore

>calling for ethnic cleansing by waving a flag

There is a big difference between desire and intent. It's not illegal to say 'Yknow, I really wish you were dead'. However since it hasn't crossed the threshold of being a legitimate threat, there's no reason to make it illegal. If people were going around saying 'I am going to kill you', then it's different. Intent has been clearly stated. A threat has been clearly issued. And the Nazi flag only represents BELIEFS, not INTENTS.

>>137532417
Let's say there is group of Muslim extremist doing rally on American soil, waving ISIS flags and have belief that all kafir must be exterminated. Will you support their right to express their belief or want them to sent to Guantanamo bay?

>>137533046
They can express their belief all they want until they actually try to carry it out.

>>137528680
>hey we just want to be left alone...
>HE IS CALLING FOR THE EXTERMIANTION OF EVERYONE AHHHHH

i really hate how intellectually dishonest the left is.

>xkcd

maximum cringe

>>137532047

In English "the last" anything means the most recent.
It doesn't imply there will never be another one.

>>137533097
I don't think that would be consensus of the group of people that supported Charlottesville rally, they would gladly see the Muslim extremist gun down in public than let them wave flags.

>>137533046
They can say and believe whatever they want. I think they're pieces of shit but that's just my opinion. If they ever expose any form of intent of harm towards anybody, then they can be arrested.

Freedom of speech is about protecting what you hate, not what you like.

>>137533750
>I don't think that would be consensus of the group of people that supported Charlottesville rally

Who cares? The thing with rights is that you have them whether or not someone doesn't like it.

>>137533603
you misunderstood my intentions

I fucking love current year.
Unless you're literally a commie anarchist sexual deviant racemixer who virtue signals 24/7 on an Orwellian surveillance system of social networks then you are a le evil Nazi.
If you faggots wanna come punch me now my body is ready for the race war.

>>137528680
who decides what incitement is? Could you start saying that any antifa paraphernalia or any that identifies one as a muslim is incitement?

>>137528680
Once again, the left can't into logic.

The last slide is an opinion, yet they simply pass it off as fact: that a Nazi symbol is incitement.

More mental gymnastics by the left. True mentally ill or retarded or both.

>>137533224
>we just want to be left alone
>go outside in public waving a flag around

pick one

>>137528680
Even if this comic is correct, at best they could call the authorities and have them take care of it. They are still not allowed, by law, to attack someone for expressing that opinion even if they feel the opinion is unlawful for some reason.

They're saying that Nazis are murderous tyrants who want to gas the kikes
But most modern Nazis deny the Holocaust
Wait, wat

Genocide is not a requisite of National Socialism.

The pure aim of National Socialism is to unlock human potential by allowing the natural hierarchical structure of the meritocracy to take place.
The best people doing the best things unified by the idea of their Race, Ethnicity and common National Interest.
Western Civilization was created by Western People. The very culture we live in every day represents who we are as people. It can intoxicate the mind to greatness or it can become a poison when left to rot, as it is now when our great buildings are being replaced by Communist Blocs.

Pride, Nationalism, Strength, Unity. Unite the People around their race and then "Classism" that the Left are fighting becomes meaningless.

Moreover.
We support private property ownership and private business. It is free market based, with constraints. No man may, for the sake of pleasure or profit, undermine the moral, cultural or societal fabric of the State.

National Socialism is like a stair case to the Stars and beyond.
Unlocking the fullest potential of a People, who come together as individuals for a greater purpose.

I don't hate the negro, I don't hate the arab, I don't even hate the Jews who remain in Israel.
I hate foreign interests dictating the direction of my people and my culture and determining for us, for the sake of other's who are not of our Common Folk, the destiny which they have chosen FOR us, rather than the Destiny which we choose to carve out for ourselves.

National Socialists do not believe in the extermination of other races.

>>137534682
But they were waiving Nazi flags, I know Left is retarded most of the time, but no this time.

>>137534541
>Who cares
It's not the point here I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of American right wing.

>>137532417
>hasn't crossed the threshold of being a legitimate threat

lemme guess, the holocaust didn't happen?

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>>137535493
>>137535559

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>>137528680

>Nazi

>>137529911
>(((ACLU)))

I hate to be the one to break this to you anon, but the reason the ACLU defends these marches is because
1. It gives a false are of impartiality, when 90% of ACLU efforts go towards advancing the pozz and pozzed causes
2. 90% of protests/marches protected by such laws will be Leftist protests/marches
3. To further undermine the powers of local communities to protect themselves from outside influence
4. It further raises the public profile of WN goofballs and wingnuts, so as to taint by association the mainstream right, as you saw in this march ("THESE PEOPLE LIKE TRUMP AND WEAR MAGA HATS, HERE'S WHY TRUMP WANTS TO GENOCIDE BLACK PEOPLE...")

>Why yes, this organisation notorious for its Jew lawyers bitching about crosses in public spaces is surely assisting white nationalists out of the goodness of their jewey little hearts!

>>137534682
To be fair these guys were actually just nazis. Granted they should've either let them protest peacefully or if they had an issue with it call the police, but engaging them just makes you look like retards and losers who can't take a punch.

>>137535492
>They are not allowed attack some one
It was one of the Nazi sympathizers that attacked the protestors.

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>>137528680
nice meme faggot.

>>137535971
That's like saying if you wave the American flag you're going to nuke someone. Or if you wave the Canadian flag, you're going to fuck their dog.

The nazi flag represents the ideals and beliefs of the Nazi party. It doesn't clearly and presently state 'I AM GOING TO KILL YOU RIGHT NOW'. At most it says 'I WANT TO KILL YOU' and desires =/= intent.

>>137535981
>Not an argument.
Herr Hitler assisted 60,000 Jews into Palestine through the Havaara Agreement and even looked into purchasing Madagascar from France to provide a new homeland for the Jews to get them out of Germany.

>>137528680
>flying a flag is tantamount to incitement
Except not only is this completely untrue, but incitement also requires a genuine threat.
Until they start handing out rifles or supplies for bombs nothing was done wrong.

>>137536113
Yeah, and he was arrested. Or did you not read the 'by law' part?

>>137535493
dont blame the messenger for noticing the inconsistency in the stormfag mind.

stormfags who deny the holocaust are spineless faggots looking for validation from others.

the true redpill is that the legitimacy of struggeling for your existence is not conditional on what other people did in another place and time.

For anyone that wants a better argument on why the ACLU is not your friend, read this

http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8551-liberalism-and-free-speech/#entry218271

>At the same time as this private control developed, organizations like the ACLU were attacking government regulation of speech. The Gwerks formulation is that these are totally unrelated things, but in fact the one strategy serves the other. Limiting government crucially neutralizes democratic countermeasures to consolidated control of speech. This was particularly important during the earlier stages of the evolution of consolidated private control--preventing local communities from doing things like enforcing laws against obscenity, communicating shared religious values, and preferencing local over outside values. The ACLU and the neo-Nazis weren't strange bedfellows, rather the ACLU was cynically using neo-Nazis to attack local and populist control of communities.

>>137536336
>Expulsion
So another name for genocide

>>137536360
Yeah but right wingers are toting him as dindu nuffin good boy, even though he killed and injured people with full intent. Again I'm just saying right wingers are hypocrites.

>>137536444
>expulsion = genocide

So does that make deportation murder or something?

>>137528680

>"hey maybe I don't want nigger culture shoved into every one of my 3 year old daughters orafices"
>KILL THE EVIL NATZI
>DO IT FOR DEMOCRACY AND AMERICA

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>>137536444
>the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
>the action of depriving someone of membership in an organization

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>>137535991
Liberals call half the population a Nazi, it doesn't even mean anything anymore.
It's like the boy that cried wolf

>>137536631
I'm pretty sure that 99% of republican congressman and the president said he was evil and disgusting but sure, think whatever you want.

If you're defining the entire american right wing by some anonymous (and possibly not american) /pol/ posters and people they interview for a Vice special then sure, you're right.

>>137536231
>Or if you wave the Canadian flag, you're going to fuck their dog.
kekd
But national flags, whether it's the American, Nazi, Soviet, Ethipian, wtvtf, are there to patriotically condone any type of action that benefits to all those standing by the same flag.

>>137536640
Deportation and expulsion are not same. Just look at Armenian genocide, the Armenians were expuled from their home and they starved without any any supply on the journey. Turks didn't have specialised camps to kill them.

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>>137528680
>I respect freedom of speech, a free society and justice
>let's kill and attack and hurt people who have a different idea than me

>>137536845
I said right wing, not Republican or American as specific.

First panel:
>We should commit violence on this guy
Second panel:
>What this guy is saying is wrong because he is asking to commit violence
Third panel:
>Inciting violence is against the law

These people lack self awareness.

It's also a huge strawman.

>>137535981
hey, I remember seeing that image from /leftypol/!
You don't browse that stuff, right anon? You're a good boy, like us.

Right?

>>137536922
So if people gave them a wad of cash. food and a boat ticket to fuck off would that still count as genocide to you?

Basically what your arguing is that once people live in a country, you can't remove them or it's genocide.

Likewise, demographic replacement also counts as genocide, especially against the previously established natives.

So ultimately, by your logic immigration is both genocide and a genocidal act. Glad we've come to an agreement.

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>>137528680
Reading that gave me cancer.

>>137536910
>flags are to condone the actions of a country

I'm pretty sure flags just represent the ideas of the country, not say that every single thing they ever did throughout its entire history is 100% morally and logically correct.

And even if they did, you still haven't shown how a flag represents intent to commit an act. At best it condones an act so all you've said is that 'a flag means you're ok with what a country did'. Which again, is simply you showing BELIEFS, not showing any form of intent to commit acts similar to the country's past.

>>137536444
http://www.preventgenocide.org/genocide/officialtext-printerfriendly.htm

No.

>>137536910
Idk if this is me being autistic or just a normal thing, but every paycheck I get, I'll buy a shirt off the internet with a country's flag on it.
Just last week, I bought a shirt with the Poland flag and its eagle. Today I bought a Russian shirt and a German shirt.
This all started when I was with my buddies at a mall and they were selling used clothing. I found this Vietnam shirt for like 4 dollars, so I ironically showed my buddies and bought it. Is this normal? Asking for a friend too.

>>137529176
or burning flags

>>137533046
>ISIS flag
>actively being funded by governments around the world
>kills, tortures, subverts, undermines, and overthrows governments
>wherever they are, people die, random attacks occur, kidnappings and assassinations
>Nazi flag
>Any white pride flag
>usually just a group of white people or similarly supportive persons who believe in being proud of themselves and about having an ethical homeland for themselves
Not all forms of white pride support genocide. ISIS literately kills people whenever they pop up. Huge difference, don't be a sophist.

>>137537158
I only saw this image on YlYl threads on /pol/

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>>137528680

>>137537182
Hitler didn't wanted to give them supplies, he was expecting Jews to starve on
Madagascar.

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>>137537428
>Confederate niggers dindu nuffin
Yeah sure buddy

>>137537257
So, to you, beliefs and intent are totally unrelated things?

>not say that every single thing they ever did throughout its entire history is 100% morally and logically correct
I didn't say that. The greatest accomplishments within a nation/organization will always be commemorated in a usually positive fashion.

>>137528680
"The problem with the left is that they think your speech is violence and their violence is speech"
-Marek Bestiacz

>>137537642
source?

Madagascar is one hell of a more welcoming place than the sandniggy place they did turn into a first world nation in a generation.

if hitler said that, im pretty sure he would have been proven wrong.

“Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.” -Plato

>>137528680
>There is nothing funny about nazis
I don't know, I could think of a few things. Hitler's dumb moustache is a basic and easy example.

>>137529089
This
Also
The other half of the problem to this argument presented is the subjectivity involved in what exactly is incitement. These snowflakes would label my farts incitement

>>137528680
>feels at least 12 different fallacies.
And yet lacks the intelligence, education or ability to present even one.

>>137537999
>that describes literally Half of the /pol/'s double ironic posts.

>>137537909
>So, to you, beliefs and intent are totally unrelated things?

Of course they're not unrelated. People, especially radicals, usually act upon their beliefs. But we cannot pursue thought crimes and apprehend people before they show any form of intent because they believe in 'dangerous' ideas. If someone was waving an ISIS flag and had signs on his garage saying 'all non believers shouldn't be allowed to live', I would definitely be worried. But since he hasn't actually broken any laws or shown intent to break any laws, what am I gonna do? Arrest him for saying and thinking things I hate?

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Hmmmm

>>137537642
You basically dodged by post by referring to what Hitler did for whatever reason.

>>137537986
Just read on the "Madagascar plan", the island couldn't support large population yet Hitler wanted to sent millions of Jews their.

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>>137537836
>few people do thing
>all people must do thing
fuck off, moron

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>>137538165

>>137528680
>But by flying the Nazi flag, his "speech" is effectively calling for ethnic cleansing and the death or oppression of millions.
No. Wrong.

Does the nazi flag:

1) Call for lawless action?
2) Is it likely to cause lawless action?
3) Is it likely to cause lawless action in the immediate future?

If the answer is no, the speech is constitutionally protected.

>>137533046
>Let's say there is group of Muslim extremist doing rally on American soil, waving ISIS flags and have belief that all kafir must be exterminated. Will you support their right to express their belief
Yes. As long as it is speaking with words, it is protected speech. Their words can be as hateful as they want. If they call for violence, or initiate violence themselves, then it is no longer protected.

>>137538575
No, the expulsion is genocide if it's known that population being displaced will die due to it And to counter your other argument, Jews where living in Europe for centuries. Lastly stop using Reddit spacing you dumb faggot.

>>137535919
/pol/ is not one person. The "American right wing" is not one person.

>>137528680
>equating everyone on the right with Nazis, which means you don't have to address their arguments
Ad hominem
>implying Neo-Nazis are only interested in gassing Jews, and couldn't be drawn to the ideology for other reasons
Strawman
>violating the NAP
Just an admission that they are irrational animals.

Also,
>probably owns a Che Guevara shirt while hiding or being ignorant of the fact that he was a mass murderer who killed children and attacked America

>>137538700
>Hahaha not all right wingers, we dindu nuffin
Sounds familiar

>>137536444

No it's the original definition of "exterminate" - "ex terminus" - "beyond border"

>>137528680
If nothing else, incitement only applies when the speech that will cause others to break the law is both imminent and likely (and neither applies). A nazi suggesting that the government round up jews and kill them isn't even advocating that he and his followers commit crimes, and therefore not incitement by definition.

>>137539076
General consensus faggot, there would also be some different views among factions.

>>137528680
who is he inciting

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>>137528680
just fucking send them pic related and let them figure it out

>>137537642
>Expecting them to starve on Madagascar

That's why, after spending his OWN Nation's money having his professionals, scientists, etc inspect the Island who determined it would be too small for the Jews, abandoned the project.

Because it was too small.
To starve on?

Kill yourself nigger.

>>137538641
area of madagaskar: 587,041 km2
area of isreal: 20,770 km2

current population of madagaskar is 4 * 6 million.

24 million niggers to good approximation; yet their island is so lush they are infact a major food exporter.

>>137528680
You can't be nazi and american unless you want an ethnostate of german-american people and german culture.
Nazi inherently means german, nationalist and socialist.

>>137539054
But expulsion by itself is not genocide.
>Jews were living in Europe for centuries.
We're not arguing about Jews, we're arguing about the claims that white nationalists want to genocide people and therefore are nazis inciting violence.

To the lefties, nazi is really just a codeword for white folks and anyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.

>>137538421
>implying someone with an ISIS flag chilling on his garage door wouldn't start a police breakdown + legal shitstorm

>>137540319
I'm not saying it wouldn't.

I'm saying it shouldn't.

>>137539589
"The plan was not viable due to the British naval blockade."

>>137540523
or so says wikipedia

>>137538641
Madagascar had slightly less than 4 million people in 1940.
The european jewish population was 9 million.

So that would have been 13 million inhabitants maximum.
Madagascar supports a population of 24 million right now.

>>137533046
Nigger, that's exactly why we don't want them in our country because we're obligated to provide them the same constitutional rights we have if they become citizens.

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>>137539705

in that case it must be fine to shoot commies

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>the mistakes and presumptions that resulted in the last world war
So, what they're saying is nuke the UK?

>>137529089
commie flags didn't call for ethnic cleansing, just supreme ideological banter

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Why Can't we have both ?

>>137529089
Kill both Nazis and Communists. Let freedom ring.

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>>137528680

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>>137541618
Finish my edit for me you lazy cuckolds.

>>137538870
Idiots waving their nazi flag is analogous to the westboro Baptist Church protesting soldier burials. The people doing it are just massive faggots all around and have no real concept of what they stand for.

I however fully support these people's rights to continue their displays of sheer lunacy because whatever man.

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>>137529176
How about communist flags?

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But by that logic nazism is perfectly justified. Look at what Talmud -the Jewish equivalent of bible- says about whites. By that logic nazis are just "punching back" the people who are threat to them.

>>137533046
Are they citizens? If yes, then yes. If no, fire up the drones.

>>137541167
Suuuure, they just didn't slaughter millions of defenseless white Christians. 6 million jews is more than what was it? at least over 50 million, ok, good to know.

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>>137533046
You can do both. You can support their right to free speech, while also wishing they'd just get black bagged and tortured down in Gitmo. That said, if they aren't citizens (or nationals) then civil liberties don't apply to them.

>>137535559
>I don't want to get cucked by strangers I would rather bootlick my way into getting cucked by rich whites

>>137536036
>TFW someone defends freedom of speech but you are mad because they also defend your opponents speech.

>>137528884
She's hot. Artist?

>>137545261
やとみ https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=168058
Use saucenao if you need sources on fanart.

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>>137528680

I swear this shit is just too fucking easy. Fun find, thanks for helping me blow some time OP.

>Can you believe this communist scum? I really want to punch him.
>Nah, we have to protect free speech.
>But by flying the USSR flag, his "speech" is effectively calling for purges, famine, and the death or oppression of millions.
>Hmm...
>You're suggesting the symbols he displays are tantamount to incitement, something the U.S. Supreme Court has said is NOT protected speech.
>Exactly. They litterally represent a call to action.

If you were hoping for a punch line, I apologize for the disappointment. There is nothing at all funny about what communists, Maoist or otherwise, hope to achieve, which is the dominance of one group above all others (including you) BAMN.

This is why we must oppose them, immediately and unceasingly and with all resources available to us, to ensure that we do not repeat the same mistakes and presumptions that resulted in the last cold war.

Extremism and Communism are the enemies of justice and a free society.

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>>137533046
So long as they are not making an imminent threat yes. Absolutely. The constitution protects their ability to rant about how much they wish everyone was dead except them in the same way that I can vent about wishing that they did not exist either.

The best way in the world to guarantee our own rights is to protect the extremes of our society. To make sure no precedent can ever be set.

That's what it means to be free.

>>137544172
Shouldn't same thing happened to Nazi sympathizers as they are also anti American

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>>137537199
wisdom

>>137539148
But they literally didn't do nothing wrong

>>137541167
Yeah, they only wanted to kill anyone that is not poor, that's so much better :^)

>>137545200
Except as I posted they have ulterior motives to this.

Again, it's an organisation overrun with Jews - and Jewish lawyers at that - why the hell do you think they care about this stuff? Check their Twitter, ~95% of the lawfare they engage in is over pozzed causes like tranny rights and keeping Christianity out of anything approaching the public space.

You have to be dumber than a box of rocks or just have shit Jewdar to think something's not fishy here

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>>137546804
>So long as they are not making an imminent threat
>That's what it means to be free
no it doesn't
you're just arbitrarily attempting to restrict my speech

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>>137549347
Brandenburg vs Ohio

"the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action".

this isn't hard. there is plenty of information on what restrictions there are on the first amendment. They are extraordinarily narrow.

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>>137549923
stick your first amendment up your asshole you filthy kike

>>137541618
>they tried relocation
What angels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom#Nazi-occupied_Europe

>>137535307
I sexually Identify as a colour bearer. Ever since I was a child I dreamed of leading the charge with my flag. I would climb to the top of the enemies battlements and wave it aloft and celebrate victory and then use it to sodomize my captured foes now stop oppressing me you shitlord.

>>137533877
gotta give this burger a clap. well expressed, anon. also, checked.

>>137535991
Lol

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>>137551287
it's not well expressed at all
he's just regurgitating his kike laws

>>137536444
As a Jew I would gladly move to Madagascar. Blacks should move back to Africa and Arabs should move back to the Middle East. There's nothing wrong with this at all.

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>>137528680
One faggot turned up with a Nazi flag that was literally fresh out of it's wrapper.

All people at the event are nazis. So let's attack them.

This is the same shit they said about the maga hats.

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>>137528680
>I say its incitement so that makes it incitement
logic fail 1
>Since its incitement I have the a free pass for assault and battery instead of calling the police
logic fail 2
the rope is coming for them

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>>137549923
also that image violates global rule 3
it's pathetic
just like this shit thread I've left

>>137528680

>"by any means necessary"

Gotta love these beta white liberal types taking influence from black supremacist groups that would eradicate whitey (nazi, sjw and everything in between) in a heartbeat if given half the chance.

>>137528835
>this is why we keep cucking
FTFY

>>137528680
>by any means necessary
>extremism is bad
Pick one.

>>137546826
r u retarded? nazi sympathizers were supporting the germans in ww2 untill japn attacked and were forced to stop... dumb fuckboy

>>137530146

I wouldn't. You'll just end up in a protracted argument about what their flag represents. Just remind them that even their premise is wrong and move on.

>>137528680
Then name them?