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Since every other thread is started by delusional Spencerites
This is the thread where we rationally discuss the chances of the driver in court
Only thing I can think of helping him would be the fact that police and governor violated the federal judges order and dispersed the protesters into counter-protesters
Other than that doesn't look good for him
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>>137502146
domestic terrorism, first degree homicide, and attempted homicide

about 30 years to life, and possibility of lethal injection
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RIP Nice Car
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>>137502146
this looks pretty damn good
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>>137502146

They can probably get him on vehicular manslaughter, given the evidence at this point.

Anything more is going to take some good prosecutors, a hostile jury and a shit defense team.

Well, unless he signed a nice confession letter that is...
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>>137502492
Just looks like a high shool rich kids car like a Mustang
>>137502488
Did they charge him with terrorism?
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>>137502772
i mean if you actually ARE this retard, where the fuck is your car dude?

that would be the ultimate defense right there "that wasn't even my car"
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>>137502821
>Anything more is going to take some good prosecutors, a hostile jury and a shit defense team.
But he ran into a crowd and has a history of anger problems
No brakes not surrounded etc etc
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Watch this guy get off because he claims he was in fear for his life and was just trying to escape the ANTIFA horde. I'd almost put money on it with all the screw ups by local law enforcement.
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>>137504623
>Watch this guy get off because he claims he was in fear for his life and was just trying to escape the ANTIFA horde.

Yeah you're delusional. That guy will spend years in jail, especially considering all the media attention that case got. Only real question is, how many times he'll get his butt raped by horny niggers.
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>>137502996
THE JEWISH CIA ASSASSINS HAVE ALREADY MURDERED HIM AND PLANTED A JEWISH CYBORG ANDROID YOU FUCKING RETARDED ASS LEAF
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Being chased by a while violent mob.
If he kept his mouth shut or stuck to the, "scared for my life" he can get this shit busted down with a good lawyer.
Problem is no good lawyer will want to touch it because Anqueefa will be showing up at their house daily saying, "why are you defending a nazi."
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Just play this in court
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>>137502146
Spencerite here, he was panic'd by the people around him, his windshield was smashed before he even ran into anyone.
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>>137505482
But that proves he went into the crowd on purpose?
>>137505322
Claiming self-defense you have to have REASONABLE fear of life
You can't speed down the street towards a crowd and say I feared the mob I was about to run over
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>>137502146
You can clearly here him accelerate as he enters the crowd. His charge will be upped from 2nd to 1st degree murder. Then they will register his faggy little club as a terrorist organization so they can hit him with a federal terrorism charge.
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>>137502146
0
his chances are 0
delusional retards will say that he was a victim, was being attacked or whatever, but that's because they're delusional retards. This isn't ZimZam. They're going to throw the book at this dumbass. There isn't a lawyer out there that would take this case expecting to win.
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>>137505623
>his windshield was smashed before he even ran into anyone
No it wasnt
>Spencerite here,
Glad you are already claiming your label :^)
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>>137503253

Lots of people have run into crowds with vehicles due to panic.

The state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not panicked and drove into those people intentionally.

So far I have seen a TON of reasonable doubt evidence.

Vehicular manslaughter is going to be waaaaay easier to prove and the proof threshold is probably lower in VA.
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>>137505823
it proves he was driving down the street at a normal speed until he was blocked by a mob that attacked his car causing him to panic and try to escape the situation

the "protestors" were not legally assembled
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>>137502146
i dont understand why isnt just telling the truth??

just tell them that his car was hacked by russians.

there is no reason to protect them when your own life is in danger
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>>137505623
there are other videos of them attacking cars and chasing people from parking spot down the street for blocks throwing shit, kicking, punching, and hitting with sticks many vehicles who were just trying to leave the area

The only domestic terrorists in play that day were Antifa. As per usual but the media never points that out but rather acts like Antifa should get to displace constitutional rights and have first crack at skulls anytime of their choosing.
MSNBC was disgusting in this regard. Scary shit when the media starts supporting wild commie hoards committing mob street violence.
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https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/897282358570872832

he is crazy confirmed
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>>137502146
It all depends on if a good lawyer takes his case pro bono. A good lawyer could get him off easily. He feared for his life. Just get at least one Trump supporter in the jury, and the jury will be hung at the very least.

Also, someone should find out about the girl that died. Did she have a twitter or FB? Did she say anything about committing violence against Trump supporters etc.... if so, that will help the jurors decide how valuable the girl's life is. If she went there looking for trouble and found it, the jury won't feel as much compassion towards her.
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>>137505096
Police already said he was panicked when they got him out of the car and it's already been proven the Nazis were thrown to the ANTIFA and BLM horde. I think he's gonna pull the "I was afraid they were gonna kill me" defense. If he does he has a good chance of getting off with a minor charge. Most likely involuntary manslaughter. It's not right but if I wanted to play the system it's what I'd do as a defense attorney. Think about it. Cops say I panicked already. Mayor and cops screwed the pooch controlling the situation and left me surrounded by people who want to hurt me. I'm no longer a Nazi. Now I'm a scared kid that was lead astray by others with more power than me.
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>>137506159
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>>137505823
How quick could a mob of 100 people busted his window and dragged him out of that car?
Sorry buddy but he has grounds.
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>>137506027
>The state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not panicked

yeah, naw

and stick to your schizoid medication regime

fucking waste of life deadbeat NEETs and their bullshit opinions
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>>137502146
Fat neet kid was not the driver.
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>>137502146
He'll walk. A defense attorney's job is the create doubt in the jury. From the video's I've seen thus far there's enough there for doubt. He'll walk.
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>>137506509
calm down retard

he'll never see more than 10 years, if that
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>>137506027
>The state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not panicked and drove into those people intentionally.
>Ladies and members of the jury the defendant was a neo-nazi who just minutes before running into the protesters had been battling with them in violent confrontations, he then got into his car and as seen in the video footage drove into the crowd at high speed making no attempt to stop
Open and shut
Making they go with lower charges just for convenience
>>137506118
No it doesn't
>>137506258
Show these videos
>>137506305
Not a Zimmerman
>>137506307
That was some twitter whore who claimed that from some cops speculations
>>137506465
Not reasonable grounds
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>>137506305

>he feared for his life
>he drove forward into the crowd from 100 feet away gunning the engine

dumbass

how can your family stand to be around a town idiot like you
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>>137506681

yeah, sure, federal prosecutor

larp harder but take all your meds first
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>>137505482
"I'd panic and speed up as soon as the car was hit and really hit the gas trying to get through however I could as soon as the crowd started to close in." Why? "Because I'm a scared little rabbit that was caught playing Nazi by people who want to kick my Nazi ass."
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>>137506668
No he won't
You need to clear your head if the videos give you hope instead of proving to you he hit the crowd on purpose
>>137506681
He's going to jail for a long time
>>137506796
>he feared for his life
>he drove forward into the crowd from 100 feet away gunning the engine
Exactly
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>>137502146
IS THE BREAKLIGHT IS LIT
YOU MUST AQUIT
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>>137506882
you're the retard who thinks he's gonna catch terrorism charges and a lethal injection
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>>137505823
Did you see the vid where they mobbed the car & smashed the back windows with bats ? any sane person would have reversed at that point.
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>>137505889
Are you kidding?!?!? ACLU just came on the news and slammed the city, the cops and the mayor. The may defend this guy pro bono
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>>137506307
Yeah well I doubt he'll get some 1st degree murder charge, too. But they will put him away for a while, he won't just simply walk away from this. Let's wait and see what happens.

As I said, too much media attention.
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>>137506796
Are you a fucking retard? People beat cases like this every day. I've beaten 2 cases like this myself. I stabbed a nigger in the neck in Baltimore City... and stabbed a wigger in his liver in Baltimore County. Beat both cases in court. I "feared" for my life. Don't talk about things you know nothing about. Retard.
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>>137505889
>delusional retards will say that he was a victim, was being attacked or whatever, but that's because they're delusional retards
antifa attacking the car is on film.
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>>137507338
HURRRRR DEY ATTACKED HIS CAR AFTER HE"D RUN INTO THEM WAHHHHH
He ran into them for no reason
No one attacked him no one surrounded him
The two cars he plowed into weren't being attacked
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>>137506668
This right here. He will walk. The media always sides with these professional agitators but the jury never does
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>>137502146

>spoiler
>V6

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>137507485
>I stabbed a nigger in the neck in Baltimore City

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

another internet hitman
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>>137507665
You are delusional
This will be like a reverse Zimmerman for Spencerites
I hope you learn from it for your sake
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>>137502146
>Only thing I can think of helping him would be the fact that police and governor violated the federal judges order and dispersed the protesters into counter-protesters

Doesn't really work for him, though, because he was in a car and not in a protest crowd.
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>>137507407
Agreed. But it will be a slap in the wrist compared to what it could be.
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>>137507485
Yeah, cool story kid.
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let me put it this way for you, retard

if he intentionally hit them, and had tons of space to accelerate, why didn't he hit them at 100mph? coulda killed a lot more.
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>>137507804
I'm 40 years old. I stabbed a nigger in the neck at 2 AM in the morning about 20 years ago. It was near "the block" (strip clubs on Baltimore Street). It doesn't matter whether your autistic ass believes it, it happened.
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>>137506159
why do I want to touch this with my penis?
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>>137508149
>This is the level of Spencerites everyone
>40 year old loser talking like a 12 year old on the internet
Are you also a former Navy Seal Team member?
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>>137508069
Because he couldn't see ahead and 100mph would have likely been suicide if he ended up hitting something. At the speed he was going he was able to get out even after crashing.
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>>137506909
You can LARP on reddit with all your faggot friends instead
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>>137508069
pretty much this
why obey the speed limit if you intend to kill someone
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>>137508069
Because he isn't from there. He's trying to find a way out (driving slow). Gets surrounded and car gets hit (now I'm scared and I panic because I got no way out). Gun the engine and hope for the best (I'm in fear for my life and acted irrationally. It's not my fault. I'm sorry.)
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>>137508160
Ask your penis, he probably knows better than you.
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>>137507485
Even if that were true, Baltimore would be an easy city to get off in. Courts have their hands full and I'm sure prosecutors are more than willing to drop cases they can't collect enough evidence for.
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>>137508551
>surrounded
He was not surrounded
>>137508531
>butthurt Spencerite lashes out
Go hit your mother instead like this Fields guy much better use of your anger
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>>137508462
Talking like a loser because I ACTUALLY know about beating court cases. You make such great sense, you fucking autist.
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>>137508769
There was plenty of evidence... I admitted I did it. I said he tried to rob me. I'll pull up my arrest record in a sec...
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>>137508531
Yup. LARPing. Watch how this case gets turned from "He's a Nazi bastard!" To "Poor mislead scared kid."
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>>137507338
difference between sanity and panic

people are making out like he intentionally set out with intent to run people over

not that it matters but he hit a mob of people that shouldnt have been in the street to start with. who knows what happened in the minutes prior to the incident. as i said watching the live streams i watched over and over people getting in their cars and getting swarmed by large groups of people who actively attacking perusing the occupants from parking spot all the way out of the parking lot down the street and to the next street clear out of sight.
it just depends on what actually happened and what he said before and after the event.
the media seems all for stringing the guy up tho i will say that. thankfully these things are not up to the media. tho they can be influenced by it
myself, I dont know. if the guy went with intent to run people over fuck him. but he deserves due process without bias and based on the facts a determination be made
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>>137506024
someone hit his car he freaked out hit the gas
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>>137508462
>Are you also a former Navy Seal Team member?

Nah, that dude seems to be a lawyer.
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>>137508149

thanks for all those fascinating war stories, gramps

dont forget to put on ur Depends before bedtime

fucking idiots on here and their trailer park expertise
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So who else here likes french fries?
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>>137502772
What isn't a false flag, out of curiousity?
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>>137508462
You sound like a piece of shit.
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>>137502146
hey, frog! is this your photo you took?
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>>137508829
>Talking like a loser because I ACTUALLY know about beating court cases. You make such great sense, you fucking autist.
Post the court files you fat Spencer dicksucker
>>137509112
No he didn't he was already at the crowd and causing them to part in fear
>>137509432
lol you even older Gramps?
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>>137509531
Just an observation.
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>>137509531
he did already video of it. Already have pictures of it sorry m8 your shit is a lost cause he freaked out someone hit him with a rocks and shit as well some other shit on the back was obvious. So bye bye shill
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>>137509705
His car is not damaged
The super scary hit?
A stick as he's about ten feet from the crowd
The video proves what a homicidal lunatic he is
>>137509627
Got any more :^)
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>>137502939
>Just looks like a high shool rich kids car like a Mustang

I gather you can't afford one. Does that mean it's not a nice car?
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>>137510009
conjecture
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>>137510009
his car was damaged on the back bumper my dude

also you dont really need to have damage for it to make any sound either so bye bye retard keep talking shit but most people have watched the video in different angles they shouldnt have been in the street during a state of emergency
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>>137509531
Here you go faggot.

I beat a first degree murder charge. And I beat an attempted murder in another case. In both, I "feared for my life".
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>>137510247
Nice
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>>137502146
I'm thinking the guy is going to get smacked with vehicular manslaughter. Just read around and evidently the guy has some mental illness issues which surprisingly will probably lessen the severity of his sentencing.

I don't think he'll get the death penalty though.
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>>137510247
And anon delivers, apologies for doubting you.

What about those "lesser included offenses"?
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>>137510757
Reckless endangerment and concealed weapon. I had a knife.
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>>137509531
>spencer dicksucker
yeah it must be nice to be such a alt-lite faggot fuck. these are the faggots you agree with?
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer

How aboiut Jack Posobiec who just agreed with all you retards that Spencer is somehow a fucking CIA.
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>>137509531
>>137511088
specially like these tweets https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/897212276553502720
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>>137502772
that pic is rather unconvincing
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>>137502146
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he get convicted of second degree murder already?
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>>137510119
Yeah it looks like a kids car
>>137510176
Facts
>>137510226
Was that damage? When was the damage from?
>also you dont really need to have damage for it to make any sound either
Oh no scary sounds
>>137510247
>trailer park murderers
Wow so this is the level of people on the board now
No wonder Spencer gets people to follow him
>>137511088
Go hit your mom like Fields or try and murder someone outside a strip club like the loser above you
Spencerites like you are losers as demonstrated by Fields and the guy above you
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>>137511233
you're wrong. why the fuck would you think you can get convicted of something 2 days after it happens?
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>>137510757
He's gonna catch a charge. But I think it will end up being involuntary manslaughter.
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>>137511357
>spencerites
HAHAHA love this shitty new meme from leftypol maybe you should just stop and go get a fucking job
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>>137510247
Even though that isn't complete proof I believe you anon.
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>>137511233
I know 2 people that got charged with second degree murder...

One guy killed a domino pizza delivery guy and only got 4 years...

And another guy killed a homeless guy that was harassing some kids, and only got 3 years.

So apparently, 2nd degree murder isn't all that bad.
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>>137502492
>shitstang
>nice
Literally a spic mobile.
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>>137511399
I just saw articles about it, but it might just be charges.
I'm not good with lawyer-speak
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>>137511357
> Trailor Park Murders
Nope, it was in Baltimore City.

And I've never even listened to Richard Spencer once. I know nothing about him.
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>>137511357
>Oh no scary sounds
The video shows him get hit and immediately swerve and hit the brakes trying to avoid hitting people. The crowd, upon hearing the car get hit, immediately surround the car pulling out bats and sticks. The driver thinks 'oh shit. If I stop the car I'm probably dead' and then 'maybe the crowd isn't that big. Maybe I can just drive through them' (keep in mind he probably couldn't see past the first few rows of people, since obviously he didn't see the car ahead of him).

Other anons have calculated the top speed of the car in the vids at about 25-26mph, much slower than you'd expect someone to be going if they were trying to kill people. He also stayed in the road instead of going onto the sidewalk which would have taken out a lot more people
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weg3fP0lZmE

download this video in case it gets taken down

the only crime is that he won't get a fair trial

he can appeal to a higher court right?
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>>137511512
Yeah, I don't want to put my name out there lol...

But trust me, it's not something I'm proud of... I don't even tell people about it. I can say it on here only because nobody knows me. I was never degenerate, but I grew up in a fucked up area in a ducked up city, so I had to survive. Now I'm living a pretty good life. I got the fuck away from Baltimore City.
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>>137511614
Problem is this case is highly publicized unlike yours and those others. Their is going to be so much fuckey in this trial by the deep state from jury selection to the judge selection. This trials verdict is already likely pre determined.
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>>137509040
there's a pretty good chance that he did it on purpose.
It may not be the case, but there is a chance that he ran into them on purpose. If he wanted to escape he couldve turned the car around, instead he drove right into the heart of the protestors.... at full speed.
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>>137512553
there were other cars there
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>>137512231
True, but it really falls on what lawyer he gets. If some "neo-Nazi" lawyer in VA takes his case pro bono, I think he can beat all the charges. A Jew lawyer will fuck him over though. VA is one of 2 states that doesn't require law school to become a lawyer, so he might get lucky and get a lawyer who just wants to make a name for themselves.
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>>137502146
>Since every other thread is started by delusional Spencerites
>This is the thread where we rationally discuss the chances of the driver in court
>Only thing I can think of helping him would be the fact that police and governor violated the federal judges order and dispersed the protesters into counter-protesters
>Other than that doesn't look good for him
This asshole started the whole shitshow who is he?
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>>137512006
Every interaction related to this event has had to go to a higher court.
The city itself disobeyed federal ruling and there's a good chance the governor or the city will get a good spank in the ass after what happened, ironically, by the ACLU.

Knowing this, the video depicting his car being struck and surrounded by protesters, and the fact that local police were constantly relocating the event, this will probably be turned around on the city or even the Governor himself.
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>>137509190
hurr durr i stabbed a nigger and am proud of it because i was probably beaten/molested by my father and now i need to prove my masculinity to random people on the street and the internet..... hurr durr im a sad person and all i need is a hug and some therapy, hur durr....
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>>137512935
Why are you projecting about yourself? Why would that even cross your mind unless it happened to you? I grew up in Baltimore City, it's not uncommon for violence to take place.
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>>137512806
We can only hope. This trial is shaping up to be the biggest since at least Zimmerman maybe even OJ level. It would be huge for him to get acquitted.
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>>137512006
looks like his car wasnt getting attacked until after he attacked them...
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>>137512834
Woah, that's a new image.
Who the fuck took that? There was no one across the street from the video.
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>>137511050
>Reckless endangerment
kek

I'm in my 40s too by the way. Back in the 80s some guy I went to school got charged for hmm roughly translated as "attacking a person with a dangerous weapon". He got into a fight and was wearing those stupid Domani leather boots with a pointy tip which were popular among retarded teenagers back then here in Germany.
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>>137509190
>trailer park

Nope, no trailor parks in Baltimore City.
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>>137512806
hold the fuck up VA doesnt require law school to become a lawyer do you have a source on this?
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>>137512834
>This asshole started the whole shitshow who is he?
This, how has he not been identified yet?
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>>137502146
Good luck finding a jury member who doesn't have a bias towards this.
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>>137513044
how could a woman resist all that man meat
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Major scandal involving the Va Governor and Charlottesville vice mayor #WesBellamy http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2016/11/wes-bellamy-charlottesville-twitter
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>>137512834
Hadn't seen this pic. This guy is so going to only get a slap on the wrist.
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>>137513260
Idk found it on YouTube and still shot it
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>>137502146
>>>137512834
>>This asshole started the whole shitshow who is he?
>This, how has he not been identified yet?
Exactly
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>>137502146
He's going to be found innocent because this is a false flag and attempt to push us into mass race riots.
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>>137513383
Apparently it's 4 states, I could have sworn it was only 2 though... VA and CA... but here's a quick google.
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>>137502488
, def yo
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>>137511233
Charged not convicted. While hes guilty as hell he still gets a trial.
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>>137502146
Heard from Molymeme that he is diagnosed with schizophrenia
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>>137507565
You are just a mockingbird.
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>>137512935
When you live next to subhumans you know what its like. But how could you? You're a soft skinny-fat little white boy living in a subdivision with mommy right?

At best you live in a dorm with a roommate that your mom pays for
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>>137513912
no fucking wonder there are so many fucking nigger private practices in VA. how hard is the bar in the VA?>
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>>137514240
cawww cawwww no I'm a crow :^)
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>>137509531

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NelBNtNm8l0

Get outside more
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>>137512834
Why would everyone stare at the car if he was going at low speed?
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>>137503253

What motive is there for a guy who makes 300 a week to drive his most prized possession into crowd?

Panic comes to mind.

He will get involuntary vehicular manslaughter by proving he was scared for his life. 1-10 years in prison.
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>>137513853
Under federal law that was expanded by the U.S.A. Patriot Act after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, a violation of federal or state criminal law qualifies as “domestic terrorism” if it appears to be intended to coerce or intimidate a civilian population or to coerce the policy of the government.

Domestic terrorism is not, itself, a criminal offense that prosecutors could charge. But portraying the attack in Charlottesville that way could help enable federal jurisdiction for what would normally be the state crime of vehicular manslaughter. It could also trigger certain enhanced powers to obtain records or seize assets that are available in security investigations. Since Virginia has the death penalty, however, federalizing the prosecution might not trigger any greater set of penalties for a conviction.

On ABC News’s “Good Morning America” on Monday, Mr. Sessions said they would be looking at it in part as a domestic terrorist attack.

“It does meet the definition of domestic terrorism in our statute,” Mr. Sessions said. “We are pursuing it in the Department of Justice in every way that we can make a case. You can be sure we will charge and advance the investigation towards the most serious charges that can be brought because this is unequivocally unacceptable and evil attack.”
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>>137514594
kek

I don't know how hard it is, but I was thinking about doing it myself. It's just remembering shit, it's like a glorified real estate exam.
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>>137505096

How did all that media attention work out for Cosby?
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>>137514838
i had no fucking idea about it. i thought you were required a degree. I may look into it myself as well
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>>137505823

It's not hard to prove, there's Video and pictures of violent counter protestors all over the Internet.
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>>137514989
We need to get as many anons as possible to start passing the bar lol. Kikes are running the court system right now.
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If DOJ can prove that the Va Governor and Mayor and Vice mayor of Charlottesville coordinated with Antifa and BLM and the mayor gave to police stand down orders he might have a fighting chance not to get the death penalty. Sessions has already requested the emails of Antifa and if they find chatter about the Governor and Mayor we will have a major scandal
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>>137515177
No we need to get on the jury. If I lived in Virginia this guy would go free.
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>>137505823
>But that proves he went into the crowd on purpose?
>Claiming self-defense you have to have REASONABLE fear of life

WRONG. Lethal force justification is divided into four legal components, the first two are ability and opportunity. A opponent weilding a knife has the ability to kill you, but not if hes too far away. Once hes in range he has opportunity. At this juncture even in a blue state like Massachusetts you are justified in using lethal force. A firearm is just a type of lethal weapon. If you draw the firearm before ability and opportunity then it's felony brandishing. You arent allowed to pull it out to scare someone away, thats felony brandishing.

If you were really one of us you would have your license to carry, youd carry a gun and trauma kit every day and have liability insurance. You would know everything about this already, you ignorant fucking shill.

>You can't speed down the street towards a crowd and say I feared the mob I was about to run over
We have a video of a grey charger run people over, and we have video of a grey charger stop and get mobbed by people. When are you going to wake up and realize there were 2 stunt cars? The suspec's actual vehicle has a sunroof and neither of the stunt cars have sunroofs. The 2 stunt cars don't even have the same glass, one has tinted windows and the other does not. That's how bad they needed this, they were staging multiple recordings and got sloppy. Video of both of them has surfaced and you're in here shilling like the jews shit down your fucking throat.
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>>137514669
Have you ever watched these qumquats interact with cars stuck trying to nudge through
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>>137515643
cawwwww
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>>137514757
if he was scared why not just... reverse?
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>>137515428
This is true.

Here's the thing, niggers don't go to jury duty. And at least 5 out of 12 jurors will be Trump supporters, and if he can get a fucking /pol/ack or even some Trump supporter who even remotely keeps up with the internet, it will be a hung jury at the very least. I honestly can't see this kid getting in any serious trouble. There's probably going to be some soros riots after he is found not guilty.
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He'll get off and you will see a white chimpout
>>137505482
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>>137511731
>not even a stang
do you even /o/
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>>137515177
>Kikes are running the court system

Maybe you can impress the bar with your long mental illness records. Lol, you fucking retard. Get a load of yourself.
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>>137516006
The car was already in Drive
And if the car somehow happens to be a manual, then there's definitely a reason he didn't reverse.
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>>137516006

Probably the homicidal maniac inside him.

He should try to go for the bar also. It's just remembering things.
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>>137516157
We should start a operation get on the jury general.
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>>137513682
what video?
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I'd normally give the edgelord white killer the benefit of the doubt, but this time I don't think he has a chance.
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>>137515643
Pic of the sunroof or lack thereof?
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It's pretty clearly not murder if he gets a good lawyer, he was being attacked

I assume they will get him on some lower form of homicide though, his actions were reckless or negligent
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>>137514616
ou should go back to hipster posting on twitter
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>>137516396
I'm using statistics and facts. You're just projecting about yourself. I have no mental illness. But apparently you do, otherwise that wouldn't even cross your mind.
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>>137516280
>Not Guilty
>Free to go
>Communists ravage Charlottesville
>Police have to clean their shit up

I can't fucking wait
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>>137516507
So you're saying his only defense is being an awful driver?
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>>137502146
Reginald Denny defense. Enough said.
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If DOJ can prove that the Va Governor and Mayor and Vice mayor of Charlottesville coordinated with Antifa and BLM and the mayor gave to police stand down orders he might have a fighting chance not to get the death penalty. Sessions has already requested the emails of Antifa and if they find chatter about the Governor and Mayor we will have a major scandal
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>>137517069
If only you could go to a website run by Spencer
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>>137502146

>Only thing I can think of helping him would be the fact that police and governor violated the federal judges order and dispersed the protesters into counter-protesters

That's not going to help at all.

His attorney is a public defender who is related to one of the victims.

He's fucked. Best he can hope for is a generous plea deal and federal terrorism charges aren't brought against him.
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he better hope he doesn't get a obese slob who shits her pants as a judge! http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/23/new-york-dems-hand-six-figure-job-to-woman-too-fat-to-work/
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>>137516619
It's hard to get selected even if you get called into jury duty that day. It's a numbers game... we need to make sure everyone goes to jury duty that day. More anons on jury duty = more chances to get selected.

And once we get selected, convince the other jurors to vote not guilty.
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>>137505482
Here's the actual video of that angle for reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Plzx73K68

You can actually hear the 'THUD' when the guy thrusts forward to hit the car. The speeding comes AFTER that.

>yfw he gets off
>yfw the riots ensue
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The judge named a local defense attorney, Charles Weber, to represent Fields

Anon we need to check the guy out and find out if he is any good. They could not use the Public Defender because on of the Victims was related to the Public Defenders Office

Please post if you find out if he gave the Police a statement

I hope James gets ass raped in prison for slapping his Mom in the Mouth, and I hope All Antifa die a slow and painful death.
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>>137517186
Not his only defense, but it can be done.
You don't really want to be under pressure in that situation when you have a chance at stalling your vehicle because you didn't throw it into neutral for a complete stop.

Although if it's an automatic he's kinda fucked on the whole "Why didn't you reverse?" angle
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>>137517106
Of course you're not mentally ill. In fact, you are a street tough that stabs niggers and wiggers.

You fucking joke. Go spew your bullshit to your mental health worker. Or maybe you can beat on your disabled mom after you finish playing Ace Attorney on your Gameboy. Fucking halfwit larpers on here with zero life prospects, lol.

inb4 "I am married to a thoracic surgeon and make 120K a year giving legal advice on the internet"
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>>137517692
Also something I forgot to mention, if he truly was trying to maximize casualties and hit as many as he could, why would he wait so long to accelerate? Why wouldn't he come flying from down the street, or angle himself AWAY from the cars in front of him towards the sidewalk where there's more density of people? It's starting to seem more and more like a panic maneuver.
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>>137502146
Is his mirror flipped away from him?
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His lawyers website

http://www.clweberlaw.com/

Anon, any thoughts
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>>137517776
Seems like all you need is some documentation from his driver's test to prove that he's not a bad driver though.

I don't know how that works or if such things are archived in the US though.
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>>137512553
a very good chance based on what information?
do tell
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http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/attorney-assigned-to-represent-fields-is-plaintiff-in-statue-removal/article_f68afefc-80fa-11e7-833a-93940dec663a.html


Attorney assigned to represent Fields is plaintiff in statue removal suit
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WTF

Will Lyster, a friend of Weber, said the attorney is on a hiking trip and does not have cellphone service. He is expected to return next week.
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>>137511357
The shill is strong with you anon.
Who you working for anyway?
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>>137517745
no. any local appointed counsel and he is on the railroad to the gas chamber. he needs new york or L.A jew and wasp lawyers, lots of them
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>>137517820
What? My disabled mom? Wtf are you talking about? You seriously have issues, look at the random shit you're saying. You're literally projecting about yourself. And what am I larping about? I've only said one thing, I beat a murder charge, and I showed my court case on here. So you're saying in larping AND saying I'm mentally unstable for stabbing a nigger. So which is it? I'm mentally unstable? Or a larper?
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>>137512553
>full speed
20 to 25mph tops
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>182 replies
>no one has mentioned that the guy is a jew
He will walk regardless of any case built against him.
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>>137518663
Just ignore that faggot.
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>>137505096
>who is trayvon martin
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>>137513672
>>137513260
>>137512834
Look closer at the damage to his bumper. That wasn't the first hit.
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>>137518488
The Judge appointed A lawyer who is on a hiking trip and has no cell phone and has not agreed to take the case. Sounds a little strange doesn't it
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>>137518447
his lawyer will have to hide from antifa hoards who will show up to harass the fuck out of him his family and firm
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>>137517820
>ace attorney on the gameboy

Sorry, the first three games were only released in Japanese on the Game Boy Advance.
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>>137519011
Judge: To Protect your rights son I am going to provide you a Lawyer. You can consult with him when he gets back from his hiking trip, Good Luck
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More information on the Lawyer

Weber, a former chairman of the city Republican Party, is one of 13 plaintiffs who have sued the Charlottesville City Council for its decision to remove the statue of Robert E. Lee from the park that once bore the Confederate general’s name. The park has since been renamed Emancipation Park.
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>>137518477
>Who you working for anyway?
Russians of course :^)
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>>137505096
If media attention equated to punishment then Zimmerman and Darren Wilson would have been executed via curbstomp years ago.
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>>137518998
It does.
They will go to any length to uphold and construct the domestic terrorist narrative. ANY LENGTH.
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>>137518998
>>137519011
Lawyer is obviously dodging for a while until the attention from media and antifa calms down a bit. Also, it's not like the trial is going to start tomorrow.
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>>137509345
an event that happens and people in power dont manipulate the situation to further their goals
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>>137502146
There is video evidence showing his car being attacked before he accelerates. In fact we even see his car slowing down as Antifa attacks his car and then he accelerates.

I don't know exactly how one proves they were fearing for their life, but surely an angry mob surrounding and attacking your vehicle must qualify for this?
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>>137501003

This thread may interest you, OP. It's a thread about trying to keep NatSoc alive without the Spencer shills or Antifa, as well as exposing both Antifa and the Alt-Right, as they're two sides to the same coin.
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>>137505482
Except you can hear the tires chirp as he enters the screen and he has the brake lights on then. He's speeding to get in the air like that. He doesn't brake where that video says, there's no brake lights. He swerves to hit more people. The guy also beat his mom, he's fucked and rightfully so.
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Online review of his lawyer

Very focused and thorough. Does great work.

Maybe James Got A Good One
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>>137519426
You really do, you work for the 60ties KGB, you just dont understand.
I dont blame you.
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>>137518993
That's a Dodge Challenger. You hit a cardboard box and the bumper comes off. This guy hit people and cars. He's lucky he drove off. Know bodywork before you make assumptions on damage.
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>>137502146
>spencerites
Shill detected SAGE
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>>137517949
Who says he was trying to maximize casualties?
By all accounts he's a fat shitposting larper. all evidence points to barely competent, not skilled mastermind.
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>>137519502
At first I thought the kid had given a statement that he did this on purpose. But now I am thinking the Public Defender was just not able to take the case and they are waiting for the appointed Lawyer to come back from Vacation before they work out bond.
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>>137519558
This is going to stay hot until the next Antifa rally
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>>137519706
Slapping your Mom in the face, where does that come from. And his Mom is in a wheelchair, he is a real tough guy
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>>137520065
>Who says he was trying to maximize casualties?

Literally every major media news outlet has said he was out to cause as much harm as he possibly could and was out to kill people.

And even a literal clinical retard would know that the faster a car goes, the more people you can hit. If this was an intentional attack, it's full of so many flaws it's uncanny. At best people can say it was intentional but a 'spur of the moment, split second' decision. And then we still have to debate the 'was it panic' idea.
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It also seems like eight or nine of the people who got run over where attacking his car when it happened.
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>>137505844
you can clearly see him traveling at an appropriate speed , even after arioter strikes his car with a weapon. as the mob follows the initial attacker and takes their pent up anger out on the car, he speeds up in order to avoid being beaten to death
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>>137505889
watch this video
>>137505482


>captcha: select all vehicles
kek
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>>137519706
>He swerves to hit more people.

If anything it seems as though he swerved to get away from the person who hit his back bumper with that pole(?). If you're trying to maximize casualties, you ram into a pile. You don't sweep the streets at half the possible speed you could be going.
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>>137520545
it looks like he already had a hoard in pursuit of him way before he gets to the crowd at the intersection.
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>>137506027
The guy may have thought they were shooting at him, a bat or rock to the fender sounds just like a bullet when you are in the car.
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>>137506509
>i dont know how criminal law works; The Post
look up the phrase "beyond a reasonable doubt"
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>>137520545
This is also something odd about it. If he were trying to kill people, why would he not try to mount the sidewalk, using his momentum to kill more and escape around the sides? Why would he ram into another car and pray he could reverse down 5 blocks?
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>>137502996
Probably sipping whiskey in a penthouse.
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>>137510247
>Disposition: LESSER INCLUDED OFFENSES

Lmao you didn't win your court case you faggot. Assuming that record is actually yours and not some other nigger's, the likely result is you pled guilty to those lesser included offenses because they had you and you knew there was no way out. Post proof that you actually went to trial and won a not-guilty verdict on that charge.

Regardless, you're a trailer park nigger with the same status as the rest: a criminal. Good luck with your career, faggot.
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>>137520175
This is how an antifa rally should be dealt with, each and every time. https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4c0_1500757069

Why do your cops suck so much?
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>>137506728
>Ladies and members of the jury the defendant was a neo-nazi
prove it
>who just minutes before running into the protesters had been battling with them in violent confrontations
prove it
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>>137521115
is forsure isnt as cut and dry as our anqueefa shills want to frame it
useful idiots have no idea what they are even fight for and if they do finally get it, they are going to be in for a very rude awakening but then its already to late
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>>137506509
Learn how criminal law works, dipshit. And before you all go crazy again and try to charge him with 1st degree murder, you better remember the Trayvon Martin case where they overcharged him to appease the masses, only to realize what Zim Zam did wasn't legally murder.

There is in just some shitty 4chan thread room for reasonable doubt, I can only imagine what a competent lawyer will dig up.
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>>137521375
They did that in Atlanta and it worked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ed3emlPiw

The police were told to stand down to Antifa and look what happened.
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>>137507565
>He ran into them for no reason
prove it
>No one attacked him no one surrounded him
blatant lie
watch the video >>137505482 and restate your point
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>>137507772
lol what a fag. hes definitely getting the chair
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>>137521445
Anon there are photos, the question is can they get the Nazi photos in evidence. They may be able to in order to show intent.
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>>137521503
So True
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>>137521445
>prove it
At a rally of neo-nazis
>>who just minutes before running into the protesters had been battling with them in violent confrontations
At a rally of neo-nazis which turned into a riot
Boom
>>137521790
>Could have stopped
>didn't
Wow so hard
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>>137507565
You know diabetics do occasionally have episodes while driving. The elderly sometimes mix up the pedals. This crowd did not wait to see if it was a medical emergency. They immediately attacked.
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>>137506728
There's no doubt he ran into them, but for a charge of murder, you have to prove there was 'malice aforethought'.

What with his car being attacked before the acceleration, the odd path for someone supposedly trying to maximize casualties, the fact that he didn't speed up until he was EXTREMELY close and the fact that his master plan was to BACK UP for 5 blocks instead of driving around them, there is room for reasonable doubt of malice aforethought.

If they go for Murder, he's walking. 1st degree is unprovable. 2nd degree is a better shot but will still be difficult. Involuntary manslaughter may be the most provable charge unless hard evidence of 'malice aforethought' is presented. Voluntary manslaughter might be a decent shot too, but if they can prove he was panicking, they won't be able to prove he had the intent to cause harm in the 'heat of passion' as they say.
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>>137521353
>the likely result is you pled guilty to those lesser included offenses because they had you and you knew there was no way out.

>i dont know how plea deals work
protip:only retards take plea deals for shit they either didnt do, or did within the confines of the law
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>>137513251
You need to look for the pics from behind the car as he was driving up the street.
There is a clear image of someone swinging a pole at the rear of the car and pretty clear image of who it was.
>There's a lot more, sift through archives, ignore the conspiracy theory shit and you'll find lots of video links and pics and explanations about what happened to make the guy have adrenaline rush and panic
>despite what some are saying, there is also a pic with his brake lights on prior to him hitting the car (which he couldn't see due to all the lefties walking in muh street)
>This guy won't be the only one to be arrested now that the DOJ has taken up the case.
>Feds were taking pics of everyone there.
>Even CNN (yes, that CNN) today reported someone saying the far left, incl. antifa, are "just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than the right wing could ever be." (forgot to keep link, you can (((google))) CNN article named something like "who is antifa" from Monday)
>Fields won't get time for more than manslaughter
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>>137505482
You can see the brake lights at 0:01 in the video and also in the picture. The picture was definitely taken before he hit the crowd because as you can see in >>137520545 they break his rear windshield before he reverses.
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>>137508551
This. The guy was previously on foot probably saw what those antifa fucks were doing, surrounding people and beating their asses with bats, hell maybe they beat him down and when he was surrounded his brain broke and he just had to get out of there.
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It depends ENTIRELY on what admissions he made to the police when he was arrested.

NEVER EVER EVER talk to the police without speaking to a lawyer first.
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>>137512231
>Problem is this case is highly publicized
do you know that anybody who has any knowledge about the incident, political affiliation similar or opposite to the defendant, or who may be influenced at all by prior knowledge are automatically disqualified from being a juror?
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>>137521757
Yeah, I know. What do you think will happen to the mayor? In such cases ours usually resign to avoid being blamed for eternity.
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>>137502146
Trump should pardon him.
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>>137502492

>V6
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>>137517222
It seems unlikely they coordinated directly, these kinds of things seem to be generally organized on more of an unspoken agreement between parties. All the mayors office had to know was that Antifa was going to be there to know what effect telling the police to stand down would have.
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>>137521153
>>137521530

thanks attorney/oil-change-professional, why don't you send me an affidavit about it

fucking poseur idiots
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>>137523027

>his brain broke

not a chance since it was surrounded by several rings of cheetos fat armor and moob shock absorbers
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>>137509345
>can't deal with all the evidence proving false flags
>asks you to show him what ones aren't false flags in a cheap attempt to devalue findings
Typical leftist tactic, you faggot. Get out.
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>>137511233
He was immediately charged with murder 2 which means there was no intent. He'll walk free with video evidence.
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>>137523126
This is better, you can not make this stuff up
http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/charlottesville-vice-mayor-on-racist-tweets/html_d751f9a9-e0f8-5064-b771-211374873e8a.html

The Vice Mayor is a racist
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>>137523067
This. There is literally no point in talking to the police once you have been arrested.

The Miranda right only state things can be used 'against you' in court. Nothing you say can be used for you. If you're arrested, right after they read your rights, IMMEDIATELY ask for a lawyer. They'll simultaneously stop asking you anything unless they're crooked cops.
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>>137523479

he can't handle the banta!
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>>137521353
He did win his court case you stupid fuck. Prosecutor went in thinking he would get a win and walked away with an L.
I suggest you take this L too faggot.
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>>137523067
This will be key, and I think the police got exactly what they wanted.
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>>137523336
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>>137523007
those aren't brake lights
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>>137523710
that's how their mothers feel about them
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>>137514669
there are probably only about 5 people looking at the car. most of the people are looking at either the guy hitting the car, or the crowd of rioters in front of the car
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>>137523480
1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned,

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-murder-overview.html
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>>137523534
Anon, Don't you think this guy wanted to talk

The Truth, You Can't Stand The Truth
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>>137523083
You can lie to get on the jury dumbass.
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>>137523723
Those are too brake lights ya mook. You think he's got his Hazzard on? Idiot.
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>>137523480
>no intent for 2nd degree murder

Murder itself is the unlawful taking of a life with malice aforethought. The difference between murder 1 and 2 is 1 includes premeditation and deliberation while 2 requires no premeditation.

>>137524072
For his sake he better hope he said absolutely nothing after the fact or he's fucked.
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>>137516006
Virginia has not duty to retreat clause. Get rekt Eurocuck.
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>>137523480
>>137523967
>1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned

Could this just be something they just charge him with to hold him with no bail before the case is heard?
Again, I'm not very well versed in law
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When is the Earth's world soul going to come alive and smite the left?
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>>137505096
>that guy will spend years in jail, especially considering all the media attention that case got
I remember when this happened to oj
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>>137524280
It could be they plead a charge needing intent to get the Nazi photos in, knowing the charge will not stick but increases the likelihood of getting a lessor included offense conviction.
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>>137523067
Over here, admissions to the police don't count at all. Obviously they get presented to the court, but there have been plenty cases where people admitted murder or whatever other shit to the police, then later on get a good lawyer for the trial and whine about too much stress during interrogation and having mental health problems and don't even remember committing their crimes and then instead of going to jail for years they just end up in psych ward for a few months.

We have a pretty strict separation between police and court, like it should be. Police can present evidence, real evidence like for example DNA tests or videos, but admissions from suspects don't count for shit if the suspect or his lawyer tells the judge a completely new story during his trial.
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>>137524365
They need a Lawyer to set bail and his appointed Lawyer is on Vacation
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>>137523723
> inb4 gravity isn't real
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>>137522696
>only retards take plea deals for shit they either didnt do, or did within the confines of the law
>literally doesn't know the value/function of plea deals

God you autist trailer trash should be banned from the internet. It's a wonder you even manage to turn a computer on.
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>>137513044
Jesus Christ. Sleeves from the undershirt coming out of the polo. Is there nobody looking out for you guys?
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>>137523336
>send me an affadavit about it
let me tell you what. a BA in Criminal Justice isnt good for much, but its great for arguing in threads like these

also im more of a coolant/anti-freeze change professional
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>>137523513
Hilarious, thanks a lot.
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>>137514757
Not even. That crowd was illegally gathered despite a state of emergency being in place.
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Isnt he an actor? Isnt the real guy a secret plant that looks middle easter? (yeah I know, I said middle easter because painted eggs)
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>>137514804
He's already been charged in the 2nd. How could it be terrorism without premeditation?
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>>137502146
I think much will depend on what, if anything he told police.

If he was smart and aid nothing to the police, he can argue that his car was attacked, he panicked and freaked out and tried to get out of there.

If he told police he was looking for revenge or was angry, he is screwed.
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>>137522429
>At a rally of neo-nazis
at a rally for the "right"
if neo-nazis show up, how can my client possible help that?
>At a rally of neo-nazis which turned into a riot
can you prove my client was an active part of illegal riot-related activity?
>Could have stopped
>didn't

like that white guy who got pulled out of his truck and beaten to death with a cinderblock by a couble of negroes during the Rodney Kang riots?
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>>137523652
what court case, exactly? Prosecutors charge you with anything and everything that can stick so long as they can get lesser included offenses, which is usually then pled to because if you don't you'll still get fucked with shitstains over your record (plus jail time for those lesser included felonies he gets).

This faggot has posted no proof that he won anything, nor whether he actually "fought his case" whatsoever. He's another nigger who is thrown into trash tier with the rest of them.

True white supremacists wouldn't be so fucking stupid, and could avoid getting dinged on their records, period. They actually "win". This nigger lost.

Now please kys
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>>137502821
they hit before he metaled the pedal. he just needs to claim it was involuntary because of the feels and i think you got it
>vehicular manslaughter
>white
hes gonna get probation
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>>137524710
It works like this

>excuse me m80 I'm Constable Fuckwad with the Queensland Police, I'd just like to ask you a few questions, is that alright?
Sure Officer. I dindu nuffing.
>were you at the pub tonight?
Yes. (the prosecution now no longer has to prove you were at the pub)
>what time did you get there and leave, do you think?
Got there at 7, left at 1. (the prosecution no longer has to prove you were there when the fight happened)
>did you see a bit of scuffle or anything while you were there?
Aw yeah, I saw a bit of punch up. (the prosecution now no longer has to prove you were actually physically present when the fight occurred)
>were you involved?
No.

So now the only thing the prosecution has to prove is that you were actually involved in the fight. They no longer have to prove you were there, at the time, near the fight. Suddenly you look a lot easier to charge with an offence, and if charged your defence is pretty shit so you'll be under even more pressure to plea out and you'll get a shit deal.

If you'd just kept your mouth shut they might not have charged you at all.

Thus we see why to never ever ever ever ever talk to police.
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>>137525183
well-played

>>137524765
the brake lights are in the middle
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>>137502821
also, see
>>137502939
nice spacing faggot
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>>137521912
unless there are photos that show him actually giving a nazi salute, that doesnt mean shit

if there are then he still might be ok.
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>>137511731
Huh? ITS A CHALLENGER THE MAKE IS DODGE and its beautiful in that charcoal
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>>137525463
things change, people change

premeditation: his history of nazi hate speech and hate speech towards counterprotesters
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>>137525556

>rally for the "right"

it wasn't a GOP rally - it was a white nationalist/nazi rally

sieg heil
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>>137524915
the function of the current plea deal system in the US is to keep our justice system moving. if every perp decided to go to court we would be so backed up you would not believe it.

t. BA in CJ
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>>137524561
You can't really compare those cases. Another anon mentioned Cosby. Those were rich and celebrities so they just got a little slap on their wrist. Also able to afford elite lawyers. Car guy is a nobody with no money and I don't see much chances for him. He could claim mental illness, but I bet you 10 of my neetbux that he'll go to jail for a few years.
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>>137511357
How the fuck does a wide ass muscle car look like a kids car its obviously designed for manly mesomorphs you low test wait- what car do you like?
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>>137502146
If he said he was spooked and there is evidence that his car was being attacked he might get off. Not likely though. We'll have to see, if he's found not guilty we better have a sticky for that night's happenings.
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>>137524121
sure you CAN. but remember, people do literally everything that can to avoid jury duty. and you dont know what case you'll be a juror for when you get your summons
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>>137514669
xactly - guy is charging into a crowded area at inappropriate speed. There is fuck all evidence he is doing this anyway other than deliberately. Guy 'hitting' the rear of the car is reacting to him ALREADY charging into a crowd, he cant be a cause. tldr, hes fucked BUT they equally cannot PROVE pre-meditated, despite obv. right-wing politics etc. Crowd situation be enough to CLAIM panic, he sticks to that version? be the difference between 5-10 OR 20+.
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>>137526085
This. If people really wanted to destroy our legal system they'd tell every suspect and defendant to not take a plea bargain.
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>>137525666
>well-played
thx Satan
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>>137525666
sure. between the headlights, as usual
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>>137525666
Brake lights in the middle? Are you fucking retarded?
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>>137525929
>it wasn't a GOP rally - it was a white nationalist/nazi rally

>literally titled "Unite the Right"

also so what if he has a shield with a fashy logo. you could very easily convince the jury that he just found some edgy black and white coat of arms to look cool
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>>137525666
>Brake lights are in the middle

Can you post some proof, cause that would be the first car I saw where the outermost red lights weren't the brakes.
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>>137526085

A moving legal system is an inevitable effect of the plea bargain system; the point is innocent people are caught in that bind every day because of its incentive structure. It doesn't matter if you didn't actually commit the more consequential charges, you're still likely to take the plea given the lesser included offenses you're charged with. This retard actually said
>only retards take plea deals

Fundamental misunderstanding of plea bargains
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>>137503253
>No brakes!
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>>137527048
victim of postmodernism.
There is a tribe written about in some text that visualizes its fertility goddess as being a car with centered brake lights, so it is one of these, obviously
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>>137527591
Plea bargains exist because most people charged with offences are so hideously obviously guilty of them that everyone knows there's no point having a trial.

t. lawyer
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>>137525643
See, anon, it's a little bit different over here. I've had a bit of a troubled past myself when I was younger. Prosecutor always tries to go for the max sentence, claiming stuff which didn't even happen. Don't wanna go into too much detail, but I've been to court 3 times and defended myself because fuck lawyers. Had great judges, and was always able to get out of the situation despite evidence the police presented against me, and prosecutor trying to give me some jail time, by just reasoning with the judge and showing him I'm not really a bad person, after all.
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>>137525701
That's what they got, also some great Nazi Prose to boot
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>>137527683
look at the video that shows the immediate runup to the actual crash from the rear, after that pic - no brakes, none.
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>>137526106
Jury Nullification is all Car Guy has
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>>137526106
He might get pro-bono representation from someone trying to get their name out there.
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>>137528164
Judge has appointed a pretty good Lawyer
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>>137528290
Even better. I hope they livestream the trial again. Zimzam trial was /pol/s peak and I want the glory days back.

>tfw you will never laugh at Judge Jewdy or play facts and opinions with Dr Wong again
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>>137527819
>not mutually exclusive

You must be a shitty lawyer. Are you even T14?
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>>137521115
This.

His vehicle was hit by a bat or similar object immediately before he accelerates up to approx 25-30 mph.

One of the videos makes it incredibly obvious that he actually comes to a slow roll when he first sees the crowd, trying to figure out what the fuck to do next.

During the rally, Unite the Right took constant stone and brick pelts, mace hits, literal feces throwing, sucker punches, and weapons flashing.

It is not at all strange that someone who just left this environment, and was thus already on high alert, would be more likely to go into survival mode upon hearing a loud "bang" next to him while inside his vehicle.

Additionally, if his intent was to take people out, why would he go 25-30 mph rather than 60 or greater? Why would he go straight as people move to the side rather than towards the sidewalk where they have no escape?

The prosecution will utterly fall apart. Their only hope is to essentially swap antifa's behavior with Unite the Right's, rebranding each one with the other's actions.

Even then, the defense will have no trouble picking these points apart. The Jury won't be watching CNN 24/7, so reprogramming them with truth and reality won't be that hard for the defense.

I'll be surprised if he gets literally anything at all.

In truth, he could counter-sue for defamation of character when this whole thing is said and done. Libel. Slander. A decent lawyer could have field day on so many MSM outlets it would make your head spin.
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>>137519581
...
>>137523479
Just give me an example.
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>>137528520
There is really great Video on what happened, what is fun is watching people argue over it. I think both sides have great arguments, but that is not going to be enough to get a conviction.
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>>137528570
The idea that plea bargains trap innocent people is just wrong though. If they're innocent they should plea not guilty and go to trial. If they plea guilty it's 99.999999% of the time because they're guilty, and 0.000001% of the time because they're copping it for someone else.
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its all up to him, not sure he is 100% in the head to begin with desu - he wants to pull a Breivik and go down in flames? he may just manage that, regardless lawyer, judge or anyone else. Keps his mouth shit and good lawyer? he maybe see sunshine again after 5 years or so. But lawyers cannot prevent their clients being retards, if thats the way they choose.
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>>137528164
>>137528290
Yeah, and that lawyer was against the removal of the statue as well, I've followed this thread pretty thoroughly. So I kinda assume he'll pick up the case. I still doubt that car guy will be able to walk without serving at least a little bit time because this thing is too high profile to get swept under the rug. Involuntary manslaughter like plenty other anons suggested is the most likely outcome from my piont of view. How much time do you get for such stuff? 2 years maybe? Don't know that much about US laws.
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>>137528862
>this thing is too high profile to get swept under the rug
Can't flimflam the Zimzam.

I don't know how cross-state precedent works in the US but people have walked before for running down protesters. No deaths but the logic should apply.
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>>137528616
They should have a drug screen back in a couple of days, we know he is on Psyc meds, will be interesting to find out what else was in his system
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>>137528828
>If they plea guilty it's 99.999999% of the time because they're guilty, and 0.000001% of the time because they're copping it for someone else.

Nice stats, but I think you could try reaching much farther up your ass
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>>137528862
At least in Jail he can hang with his Nazi buddies and not have to worry about food and housing. Sounds like this guys life truly sucked
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>>137527048
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>>137528624
that time i stubbed my toe and got so mad i tried to exterminate the jews
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>>137528980
>No deaths but the logic should apply.
The logic applies, he won't get 1st or 2nd degree murder. He won't get a life sentence and he won't go to death row. But the homicide is a little problem. They can't just let him walk.
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>>137528980
We had a guy walk who got out and shot a guy that was blocking traffic. You can not underestimate how much people hate traffic. There will also be at least one guy that gets on the Jury the hates Antifa and really feels they got what was coming.
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>>137528862
Involuntary manslaughter does not apply when the individual has a legitimate fear for their life.

The defense will only need to show that he had a legitimate fear.

Which he absolutely did. Anyone at the rally (which he was) would have on extremely high alert. Antifa were flashing weapons, sucker punching, throwing rocks and bricks, etc. Several Unite the Right had to be evacuated to the hospital.

Of course you aren't getting that side because the MSM isn't reporting it. Doesn't fit their narrative.

Bottom line his vehicle was hit, there appeared to be people chasing him already (we won't know for sure until more video angles surface) and he was likely looking at his rear view mostly as he was afraid of whatever the "BANG" he heard from behind him was caused by.

Hit a V6 muscle car on the gas with a tinge of panic as a crowd of people appears to scatter (people you know to be dangerous) while looking into the rearview mirror, and - what's that? Oh, another vehicle that you couldn't see due to the mob, which was in fact swamped by the same mob.

It's going to be a very easy case for the defense. The entire Jury would need to be antifa to convict this. Cap this post. You'll see.
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>>137529241
Maybe that was his master plan. 4 wheel chess
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>>137528616
he was already accelerating into the crowd before anyone hit his car -- this is clearly shown on the undoctored video which will be shown in court which will land him into death penalty territory

there was nothing behind him -- if he was feeling penned in, he could have backed out -- but instead he decided to crush some people with his car -- like any ISIS terrorist

as for your other bullshit conjectures, take more lithium like your family has told you to do for years
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>>137529471
Why?

Fucking why?

Do you write like that?

It's annoying and I'm having trouble reading your posts.

For god's sake, you can fit more than one sentence into a line.

Have you never read a book?
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