Why the fuck is Richard Spencer the face of white nationalism,

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Jared Taylor >>>>>>>> Dick Spencer

>>137498707
This. Have a bump OP.

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>>137498707
I never liked Spencer to begin with but I don't think that many people do I honestly think it's just shills trying to rally the right behind him

IDK ask the CIA

>>137498877
Spencer needs to go.

Spencer gets his ass beat by trannys don't leave that out

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>>137498707


When you deal with fringe movements, they are typically occupied by odd people who are anti-social or just weird, hence why they aren't well established as successful in the mainstream.

Jared Taylor said exactly this. When describing the people he would meet early on, he said loosely "they were very odd, because it took an odd person to look in the same dusty corners of libraries I was looking in".

I've noticed an immense number of people on /pol/ who lack the ability to see things past just face value and I believe they fall into this value.

Even Ben Shapiro does more for white people by making neutral non-racial comments about how blacks do in fact commit more crimes than whites.

I've said this before here - Richard Spencer types are so dumb they think they can push everyone off a cliff. Jared Taylor is the one who politely offers the people the staircase to his beliefs.

>>137498707

His handlers have a lot of influence and cash on hand, that's why.

>>137498707
Spencer is either a useful idiot for the left or a CIA plant. He's great for discrediting the alt-right, whether he means to or not.

An intellectually formidable white nationalist like Jared Taylor will never get much mainstream coverage, and if he does, he'll be lied about and misrepresented.

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>>137502014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Vj3DXwOBI&ab_channel=DaveJohnson#t=1m18s

This is Ben Shapiro redpilling a bunch of moderates and alt-lite on black crime statistics

this is how you do it.

You don't recreate nazi propaganda reels and expect people to just go "wtf, I'm a natsoc now!"

The answer is clear. Who considers him the leader of white nationalists? Not you and I. It's the mainstream media. Of course they pick someone unflattering to the right.

>>137498877
>>137501190

Fuck you faggots both

I support Spencer 100% his presser today killed it.

Go back to r/chapotraphouse faggots

>>137502502
>An intellectually formidable white nationalist like Jared Taylor will never get much mainstream coverage, and if he does, he'll be lied about and misrepresented.

He actually does get spots in the news for interviews and he's overwhelmingly polite. Yes, he's not a big name everywhere, but this is still a small movement as it is.

The point of his brand Amren is that it's there for people looking for it and it's everything they could ever need.

Taylor is the one starting the fire

>>137498707
I wonder too. Jared is actually fully White unlike Richard, but it sucks how Jared goes with that "he looks huwhite to me"

Tbqh, of all the voices on the alt-right I like him the least and it seems everywhere he goes trouble and NAZI LARP follow.

>>137498707
>Why the fuck is Richard Spencer the face of white nationalism, and not actual intelligent respectable men like Jared Taylor?
Because the media gives people like him and David Duke massive attention because they are spergs
And thus mentally ill retards like Fields flock to them like flies to the fly trap to work through their mental issues through Hitler salutes and running into fat chicks

>>137503526
He's not fully white?

Jared Taylor is ok and does good in interviews but he doesn't actually agree with us on any sort of political solution he just promotes freedom of association and views Jews as white

Face it, weirdo Spencer did better than Trump today, his press conference eloquently summed up all the correct talking points about Cville, the ones that people are realizing are true anyway

People don't really like Spencer very much but someone better has to come along and replace him.

Try a more traditional American image maybe

>>137503526
In Saul Alinskey's book 'Rules for Radicals' he wrote this

>If the real radical finds that having long hair sets up
psychological barriers to communication and organization, he cuts his hair.
If I were organizing in an orthodox Jewish community I would not walk in
there eating a ham sandwich, unless I wanted to be rejected so I could
have an excuse to cop out.

Jared Taylor's whole scheme is of course redpilling the masses first on general ethnic nationalism. It's obvious to anyone that anti-semitism is an instant no go for any movement anywhere to gain significant traction.

First he redpills them on ethnic nationalism, and they are that much closer to discovering the jq themselves.

If he were to go "Yes, whites should stick together, btw I hate Jews!" he'd be branded a generic nazi and thrown in the trash by the media.

tl;dr there are bounds in terms of appealing with a message and you have to work within them before you work outside of them.

>>137502891
Hit your mom today Spencerite?
Or you having another tiki torch party?

>>137502891
He's useless and just makes huge gaffs.

>>137503779
Richard has a nig ancestor few gens back.
>>137504000
>If he were to go "Yes, whites should stick together, btw I hate Jews!" he'd be branded a generic nazi and thrown in the trash by the media.
Saying "Jews are not White =\= GTKRWN

It's pretty essential to openly state that the Jews are not White

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>>137498707

If your don't respond to this post acknowledging Jared Taylor, Vox Day, and Stefan Molyneux as the top intellectual leaders of the Alt-Right RIGHT NOW then gtfo off my board.

>>137504409
by staying out of that topic as a whole, he's able to get people less focused on if he's an EVIL KKK RACIST NAZI!!! because he said one thing about Jews (which in their head is a keystone of being an archetypal villain) and they are essentially forced only to learn about white nationalism and white nationalism only.

At no point, unless they are already deeply rooted in their party's dogma, can they find their own cop out to just toss him aside. Generally people look for very quick and easy excuses to toss out a rival's argument and just hinting at Jews in any sort of light will drown out louder his actual message.

>>137498707

The guy had a pretty good career in silicon valley before going full WN.

>>137503917
Jared is great, but he's not a leader. Which is OK. as not everyone is cut out to be a leader. Spencer does seem to have some of those leadership abilities, but if he's not a plant, he sorely lacks self-awareness and good strategical sense.

>>137502014
magnificent picture

>>137502014
>>137502702
this

>>137504979
he lacks a sense of tact.

I've also said this before in the past few days (inb4 shill). Politics is a stage or a theater more so than a boxing ring. Spencer is approaching it like a boxing ring.

I'd say Trump is hardly religious but had to of course add that to his fake political persona to get a wider appeal.

>>137504979
>Spencer
>has some of those leadership abilities
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>137504409
Jews are white but their religion is reptoid and hates Aryans as a part of their cosmic battle from the time of Atlantis and Lemuria. Abrahamic religion is the worst thing to happen to white people. Based Jews like Bobby Fischer are respectable and like their white roots over their destructive Jewish ones. Watch Stargate SG-1 and just replace Gou'alds for Reptilians and it all makes perfect sense. Jews gain power and knowledge but lose a lot of self-control when they convert and do Jewish rituals. The host bodies are still genetically white.

>>137504726
lmao the fact that you think any of them are actually intelligent are the reason you dumbasses are stuck with Spency

>>137502945
He was on CNN recently.

>>137505224
Drop the 88, keep the 14.

>>137505348
Reptoids have to use whites because no one else is smart enough to compete with other whites and showing their true form would have humans everywhere fighting back.

>>137505544
yes he was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6GA4dMZw4&ab_channel=AmericanRenaissance

I want to again heavily point out something

Richard Spencer got a tv interview with two other black celebrities. You know what he did? He referred to one of the guy's arguments as "faggy". He literally used the word faggy.

Just watch a few seconds of Taylor and look at how cordial he is.

>>137505348
>Jews are white
>2,5-6% negro and 40-70% middle eastern/north African genetic legacy
Pick one
>>137504795
They are not White and it's a damn fact. Like nations in the Balkans other than Slovenia. Not quite White either

>>137499957
t. same fagging phone poster

>>137502014
This.

>>137505347
He obviously does. Clearly I'm not a big fan of the guy and think a lot of his tactics are ineffective, but there's no denying he a force of will that someone like Taylor lacks.

The best thing I can say about Spencer, if he's not a CIA plant, is that the guy has really big balls.

>>137506105

They are in the mediterranean subgroup but still white. That much negroid blood is trivial. Besides they do not act like niggers but like blood-sucking and cunning reptiles, like many other Aryans that have performed dark rituals to achieve demi-god status (royalty, etc.)

>>137506105
>They are not White and it's a damn fact. Like nations in the Balkans other than Slovenia. Not quite White either
Yes, they aren't white and are Ashkenazi. I've always thought that was a funny name for including ash and nazi in the same word.

But you need to understand that while yes it's a fact, when you are trying to sell a product to the masses, especially as a small business and not an established power player, you have to zazz up your beliefs, use half-truths, or even exaggerate sometimes.

Politics isn't about facts. That's only part of it.

>>137498707
I've been watching Jared Taylor videos all night. The man is clearly 30 IQ points above Dicky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kf6ehDu-vg

>>137506672
They are literally not European, Semitic-negroid inbred mongrels. They can't be White
>That much negroid blood is trivia
A post worthy of modern American. The whole point of being White and avoiding the White genocide is not having a single nonwhite ancestors and securing that for your children

>>137506105
The "negro" part is probably Ethiopian or some shit. Dark skin with caucasoid features.

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>>137507038
They are far more Europid than Arabid.

>>137506434
>He obviously does
Spencerite just stop
He only attracts bottom of the barrel types like this Fields character
No vetting no organization just a circus of tiki torches
>big balls
What a cuckservative attitude I'd prefer he was smart

>>137506691
"We are White too, goy" is good political thing they often use. You can't leave that tool to them or those who oppose European separatism. To be White you must be European is a simple thing to say.

To show groups like Portuguese, Greeks, Serbs and others as an example of previous White genocide and "no longer White" ones is a smart and important move in America, where some people think that those can be White

>>137505354

t. soy boy

>>137506754
That interview made my blood boil. Every time Jared started to drop a red pill, the muzzie host pulled the, "We have to move on, I'm trying to be respectful of your time" line. She also very condescendingly called his ideas "discredited." Jared handled that with a lot more grace than I would have.

>>137498707
>Richard Spencer
(((controlled opposition)))

I don't remember anyone here ever falling for the Richard Spencer meme. Especially after he got punched and everyone seemed to applaud it because they thought he was faggy.

>>137507334
Your criticisms of Spencer are the same ones I've already stated. I don't know how to make it more clear I'm not a fan of the guy or his tactics.

>>137507038
> the whole point of whiteness is (not American but European)
> whiteness was invented in America while Europeans were discovering new ways to chop peoples heads off and finding new kink porn
You Europeans still think an Indian that speaks your language is a better countryman than your 18th cousin in some redneck town in the states. Who cares what you think? Americans embraced Sephardics as whites from the beginning. You did a bunch of pogroms on Eastern Jews and left us with bitter shits to run our media and tell us what to think.

>>137507159
>caucasoid
That's a term created by an idiot who felt in love with a skull.
>>137507263
Honey, White part ends on that British-German-Croatian line

>>137507629
He handled it like a total pro and still managed to get the redpill through. Imagine Dicky in that situation

>>137507860
You try to slip in sly little compliments. Spencer is an incompetent leech and should constantly be identified as such

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>Chadvocate
brilliant

>>137508164
My initial post was that he's either a useful idiot for the left or a CIA plant. Just acknowledging that he does have some leadership skills doesn't mean I like him.

Could someone double check Richard Spencer's wikipedia page and specifically the dates in the reference section #32-36?
Did another torchlit protest go down in Charlottesville Virginia in May?

>>137498707
>Taylor
>Spencer
OP is correct. These two men have nothing in common, other than their jewish wives.

>>137508024
> Nordic = white
I'm like fully North European and can see white attributes in Italy, Spain, and Greece. Fuck that.

>>137507958
>You Europeans still think an Indian that speaks your language is a better countryman
We literally don't see them as our countrymen, even the crazy liberals in Italy and Sweden don't really see them as Swedes and Italians, our identities and nationalities are ethnic and racial.
>Americans embraced Sephardics as whites from the beginning.
You didn't, neither did the Founding Fathers thought of Meds, Albos, Serbs etc as White
>You did a bunch of pogroms on Eastern Jews
What's wrong with it? They are not native to Europe. You can't commit a crime against people like that on your native land. I and many other European nationalists deeply believe that non-native elements should enjoy zero legal protection when in Europe

>>137501003

Get in here, NatSocs!

>>137498707
>this site of all places fell for
we haven't fallen for shit and you don't know anything about this place
go back to where you came from

>>137508287
Huwhite

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>>137508024
It's also genetic. E3 is where the caucasoid Neanderthals started breaking from other Africans. Horn of Africa.

>>137508447
>Just acknowledging that he does have some leadership skills doesn't mean I like him.
How can you acknowledge that which does not exist?
Which means you must be trying to prop him up for the other Spencerites on the board

>>137498707
>its the canadian who says "optics" all the time again

just stop, it's not going to catch on

>>137508845
There sadly seem to be a lot of Spencerites willing to defend his self-evident bad "leadership" and tiki torches
Which is making me question how it got to this point

>>137508588
>Slovenes, Croats, Russians, Finns, Poles are Nordic now
Americans.....not having non-white ancestry at all is what makes you White. One drop rule as you say.
>white attributes in Italy, Spain, and Greece
nigger shitholes filled with mongrels
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gQeN0AdsiHU
>>137509000
>caucasoid, out of africa
>>>/x/

>>137508641
They were literally Khazars who were descended from Scythian tribes that didn't leave their homeland and intermarried with Turks from Asia. If they are anything non-white then so are Russian hapas.

>>137509460
>They were literally Khazars
Holy fuck, Americans actually do fucking hate science

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>>137509349
Neanderthals were not out of Africa. They went down INTO Africa and muh dicked some smiliing painted faced THICC women that could rub sticks together like Hollywood said.

>>137502702
>ben shapiro is a jew, therefore i must disagree with him: black people do not commit a disproportionate amount of crime
-some retard on here, probably

>>137509850
We do mostly
Its the history of Protestant version of cuckstianity
It affects all political groupings

>>137509850
So you think a European group that stayed in Europe for over a thousand years and integrated with most of their customs and wore their clothes is not European but some robe wearing Middle-Easterner that fucked camels and lived in tents.

The 13th tribe makes a hell of a lot of more sense than other origin stories for European Jews. It ties in with the European Israel fanatics that think they come from some Assyrian Scythian diaspora and why half their Germanic gods are found in the Levant.

>>137510123
In real life it was the Roman Empire that granted equal rights to all it's subjects including negroes, arabs and jews, and those went right into Italic and Iberian gene pools and stayed there ever since. Then multiracial cuckold Byzantine Empire, Moorish invasion of Iberia, Ottoman occupation of Greece happened. So, you know, Meds not being White is a thing for a reason
>>137510689
>European group
>negro and middle eastern genes
Only in American. Back to good ol' IQ of 75

>>137504726

Vox Day is alt-lite at best. Same with Molyneaux, he isn't stupid enough to stand with the alt-right.

>>137510689
J is found in a lot of Europe. It is Mediterranean

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>>137505348
>Watch Stargate SG-1 and just replace Gou'alds for Reptilians and it all makes perfect sense
saving this post for laffs

>>137511585
Good, because you can grow up and later realize it is the truth. Read William Bramley Gods of Eden, or anything by Sitchen (another Jew that woke up and said fuck it I'm exposing this.)

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>>137502702
Yep. Shapirosteinengold really understands how to push the right buttons in a liberal. He understands what appeals work on them when he uses those appeals too they start seeing that they're just being manipulated. Then they start actually listening to the content.

>>137511491
As well as in North African nations, Kosovo, Albania, Turkey, Serbia. Really makes you think

>>137511585
> Jehovah is literally called Lord of HOSTS dozens of times in the BIble
> people can't see this obvious parallel to a show about reptilian parasites that called their humanoid shells hosts.

>>137505788
>Richard Spencer got a tv interview with two other black celebrities. You know what he did? He referred to one of the guy's arguments as "faggy". He literally used the word faggy.
yeah that was pretty bad, especially since a normie white chad is just gonna think *spencer* is the faggy sounding one as soon as he brings it up

Because the media chose to call him the leader a year ago.

>>137512592
> Caucasoid Meditarreanean countries have Caucasoid Mediterranean DNA.

Shit it really does make you think

>>137498707
>Why the fuck is Richard Spencer the face of white nationalism, and not actual intelligent respectable men like Jared Taylor?

Because white nationalists are white nationalism and they are not smart enough to choose a respectable leader.

We're talking about people who think you can measure personality and IQ by skin color, anon.

Japanese nationalists use blood type. You can't easily disprove it, since blood type isn't obvious.

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>>137506754
>"I'm not going to play a numbers game, I think that numbers can be manipulated. The empirical fact is that whites are more likely to be killed by other whites."
This is some strong doublethink, jesus.

>>137502014
Wtf I hate white nationalism now

>>137498707
Richard Spencer isn't anyone's leader you larping Reddit raiding faglord

>>137512910
>Caucasoid
suburban retard
>Albania, Serbia, Turkey, Northern Africa
>Mediterranean
Fucking American retards I swear

>>137513279
there is nothing wrong with white nationalism AS SUCH. there is something wrong with presenting itself as swastika waving, RAHOWA advocating, 'hitler did nothing wrong' shouting spergs.

>>137498707
>respectable men like Jared Taylor?
cult of personality

Spencer is a fucking idiot.

https://youtu.be/GfQKWXMZtnU

>>137514064
not at all, spencer is the one doing that. do you even PHALANX? i still like spencer though, he just attracts too many retards.

>>137506754
>I don't want to argue the data

>>137507334
fields just showed up, no group has claimed him, he's probably just some shitposter

spencer's actual organization is small and high-ish quality

Nobody really is satisfied with Spencer, he's weird. But he is the most competent person in this clusterfuck of a movement... in the sense that he manages to turn one fuck up after another to his advantage, building up his personal brand... and it hasn't sunk the movement yet

There is a reason people wonder if he is a CIA or Russia agent

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>name anyone but the jew goy
Hitler rounded up antifa stuffed them into camps and executed their Jewish leaders lawfully for communist treason and terrorism. One man has crushed antifa. Only one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmNmGEf-gSg

>>137512434
Shapiro is a good debater.

>>137498707
Which one of those two do you think is representative of the average /pol/ poster?

>>137514637
>There is a reason people wonder if he is a CIA or Russia agent
he's a little too slick for his own good. and his wife ~who he definitely is still with and loves very much~ is strange. she's some kind of black sea "russian" mongrel with iranian/georgian/turkic admixture and worked for dugin (who is hardly white nationalist and wants a mixed eurasian empire).

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Look at 4chans alexa ratings over the last few days. An unprecedented surge of posters, and judging by how literally incomprehensible and meaningless many of the posts were, I'm forced to assume they were shills intentionally clogging up the board so that this discussion couldn't be hard while the march was taking place. I genuinely believe some crafty lefties concocted the idea of nazi torches and starting the nazi chants themselves. Look at how perfect all this was. Just a totally, totally perfect opportunity for the media. Far too perfect to be an accident. All it took was a couple of spooks to effectively portray the entire american right as nazi white supremacists to the entire world. the movement is totally, totally discredited. not to mention all the pathetic youtubers who have massively profited off of this

>>137498707

Spencer. Is. Gay.

Can you guys not really figure this out?

Seriously?

Watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rh1dhur4aI

HOW CAN SOMEONE LISP THIS MUCH IF HE'S HETEROSEXUAL?

You poor, poor Spencer lovers.

He just wants to splooge all over your strong, powerful, Aryan manhood. Take me, Nazi, take me in the ass, don't stop, put on your leather...

THIS IS WHAT SPENCER IS THINKING WHEN HE'S TALKING TO YOU, YOU DOPES.

You are following a gay guy who pretends to be a Nazi because he likes it rough in the ass, and no one fucks people up the ass harder than the Nazis do.

>>137514637
>fields just showed up, no group has claimed him, he's probably just some shitposter
Exactly what I said
No vetting no organization
Why hold a rally if you aren't in reasonable control of it's attendants and can be sure they can control themselves as well
>high-ish quality
Poor judge of quality honestly
>most competent person in this clusterfuck of a movement
>competent
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh
>building up his personal brand
Exactly, a leech who goes from mentally unstable group of losers to losers while getting interviews with mainstream media

>>137500780
Tiki bar 4 jul 2017

>>137513861
> Adriatic is not just a Gulf in the Mediterranean
Turkey/Anatolia was center of two Mediterranean empires.

>>137515751
Actually 3 counting the Hittites.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=098QwsPVHrM

I have mixed feelings about the tiki torch rallies. They look epic from afar but just silly up close. Would real torches be better or worse? How do normies react to this? I think the average joe would see it as a KKK lynch mob or something.

>>137516244
You shouldn't be using torches period.

>>137516244
>How do normies react to this?
Laughed at it mostly
The whole killing someone with a car took attention away from it though
Also the buying of tiki torches shows just how shoddy, commercial and phoney Spencerites are

>>137516244
Torches carry certain connotations. The right needs to look "tough" so to say, but there are better ways to do it yet I'm not sure what.

>>137498707

Why don't you read Spencer's bio before drooling jizz all over the place?