Dear /pol/ can you guys explain me why being a white nationalist

>>137475575
It's cute if you're an albanian nationalist because you're irrelevant. It's scary when there's a white nationalist because the last time we had an all-out world war with even two nukes dropped.

>>137477038
drop nukes on Imperialist Asians

>white nationalists

fuck you nigger

>>137475575
because "white" isn't a thing
you are an albanian nationalist, you have a history and a culture. white people in america identify with "white nationalism" because they have been so far removed from their culture they fabricated a new one instead of trying to reclaim the original ones, similar to the black power movement, also in america, which is popular among the disenfranchised ancestors of slaves who had their culture removed from them

>>137477777
CHECK' EM

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>>137477777
wasted digits

>>137477777
Haven't Americans watched the movie with LeoDiCaprio Gangs of NewYork?

>>137477360
What is your point even? Nazi Germany was pretty white nationalist and it culminated into two nukes dropped.

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>>137477777
Nice

>>137475575
Albania is more irrelevant than Lithuania

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>>137477777
HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH

>>137477777
Checked, and accurate, but I'd say that the overall identity of 'white' must be acknowledged before historic nationality, especially considering Amerimutts arent just a meme.

>>137477777
This. What does some trailer park living white American /pol/ack have in common with a guy from Norway, or Germany, or Romania other than having white skin? They don't share culture, cuisine, language, etc. White nationalism literally makes no sense. We should have ethnic subgroup based nationalism like Hitler had in Germany.

>>137478158
Literally being this autistic...

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>>137475575
"Insert skin color* Nationalism" is no bueno. Distance yourself from anyone that does this

White nationalist
Brown nationalist
Black nationalist

Stick to terms like "American" an "all lives matter" those still trigger and they have much more meaning.

Also never listen to Richard spencer. Guys a spook.

>>137479200
i don't know man, "american" today could mean anyone

some iraqi who gets naturalized this year is just as "american" as a descendant of the founders. not very meaningful if the definition always changes.

>>137475575
Remember that american is just a mixture of europea ancestry. The true inhabitants of the Americans are Native Americans (Cree, Sioux, etc)

>>137477777
Quite accurate

>>137479912
but you just said yourself "an iraqi who gets naturalized"

if you are truly getting naturalized, what is the problem? I'll conceed that it might be harder to naturalize people from other cultures, but we live in a world where a desire to be naturalized is a marketable skill, why NOT let people be american if they actually want to be american?

>>137479200

Right over left.
The tits on the girl on the right make me want to suck them like a baby.

what is someone supposed to do with a pigs head
do people eat the brain or some shit?

>>137480174
as the culture drifts away from the founding ideals and the founding stock, the nation becomes unrecognizable and loses what makes it special. look how much american and european values have changed with the population changes.

should japan allow millions of iraqis in as long as they get naturalized? and do those new immigrants become just as japanese as the emperor? i think the japanese would have a major problem with that. americans seem not to care because we have become an atomized culture without identity. but other nations are not like that, nor should we foist our ideals onto those nations - they don't make a good fit.

>>137479974
not true, those people were also immigrants, just earlier ones. they were native to siberia. plus they did not call themselves american.

>>137475575
>Dear /pol/ can you guys explain me why being a white nationalist is a bad thing?

it makes international jewry scared as hell

>>137480731
I'm not saying you SHOULD let everyone in, I'm saying why the hell not, assuming they are willing to pass any legitimate test you give them

how does the fact that we've strayed from our values mean immigration is a net bad? the problem with immigration is its frequently run by liberals who have an anti-american bias, if you put the right tests and the right people in place, you don't need to cling to the idea of "whiteness as cultural salvation" because your culture will already be getting preserved

>>137479200
>posts these degenerate dumpster fires of women
>cares solely about "triggering"
like pottery
white nationalism is not another plastic, strictly economic, soulless ideology. if you can understand anything immaterial, you would know that your ideology should not be strictly for shock value or "triggering". you sound like a t_d brainlet.

>>137481107
why the hell not? i think you can look around you and see the mass changes in american society. we have lost our social cohesion, and many of our values already. once those are gone, you've lost america.

there is no "right test". i believe the american people should have a say on who comes in here, and people have continually said they want less immigration, even the minorities.

not everyone wants a "melting pot" or a "proposition nation" where all that matters is the GDP and the stock returns from Apple, Walmart, and any other mega corp out there. and let's be real, american culture doesn't get preserved under diversity, it gets replaced.

>>137475575
Nothing wrong lol.

>>137481396
Well your definition of white nationalism is different than mine, and different than most other peoples i'd wager.

When participating in Public Relations you want to use terms that other people can relate to. You obviously need to work on that.

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>>137482253
>called out on jewry
>my definition

100% kike.

>>137481698
yeah american culture is changing for the worse, but what part of that is solved by ending immigration? we still have (((degenracy))) that whites are engaging in all over, "whiteness" has nothing to do with values, abd THAT'S what the country needs

as for what people want in terms of the make up of the country, you're living in a post-racial world, if you really think ethnic isolation is possible for a first world country then you must be dreaming, and such a dream is not worth fighting for

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>>137483024
Whites made western culture with any other race the west wouldn't last very long after race isn't just skin tone it's behavioral it's intelligence it's DNA whats been done to us can surly be undone nihilism isn't going to get us anywhere.

>>137483024
>whites are being degenerate
so because we have degeneracy, we must have immigration? there is degeneracy in japan, why mustn't they become a country of immigrants too?

>whiteness has nothing to do with values
those western values you claim to love so much are usually only found among white people. you don't see these values practiced too often among other races, who tend to be more tribal. i guess the one good thing about a white minority in america is people will realize the lockean "proposition nation" bullshit is clearly just that, and the natural order is states divided by ethnicity. as they have been around the world until a few globalists decided to play god.

>ethnic isolation isn't possible for a first world country

how does japan, south korea and taiwan manage then? you have to have the will. you are probably correct that the american empire will become another brazil, not much can be done. but don't bullshit me that brazil is the guaranteed final result for the entire first world.

>>137483950
>no, you stupid idiot, I'm saying that the degenracy fucks up our culture and your answer of ending immigration doesn't solve the problem

>2nd point
so white people created the west, what is the point of EXCLUDING people who could otherwise assimilate with western values on the basis that they aren't the right color?

>3rd point
japan suffers from horrible degenracy and low birthrates despite not being multi-cultural, sout korea is on its way there, and frankly i don't know much about taiwan. but these still proves my point, ethnically homogenous societies are not immune to the degenracy which will destroy them

immigration might not be the answer to a perfect world, but ending it isn't going to help

>>137483561
dude the europeans were literal barbarians before inculcating christian values, why can't other races inculcate similar vaules to pass on to their ancestors?

>>137484578
degeneracy fucks up every culture. i'm not sure how this justifies mass immigration if the people don't want it. japan wants to remain japanese, i see no reason for me to tell them that they must become multiracial.

>2nd point
maybe people want to pass their nations down to their descendants, not the descendants of other people? furthermore how is the third world to improve if the best are leaving?

3rd point
japan may suffer from degeneracy, but they will still maintain their culture and heritage, while america becomes unrecognizable. all those people you claim are "assimilating" are only changing this nation into something else. many of your precious immigrants are assimilating to the degeneracy themselves, which proves immigration is no solution for improving morality.

>>137475575
because ,you'll die alone and live a miserable dark life , knowing deep inside you're wrong , but you'll just keep ignoring it.

>>137484706
What about Romans the greeks? lol dude learn geography.

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>>137485175
>i'm not sure how this justifies mass immigration if the people don't want it.

but america DOES want a post-racial society, THAT'S why people are having to defend being white nationalists in the first place

the west has moved into a post-racial world, the onus is now on YOU to prove why going BACK will help, not the other way around

>2nd
I don't necesarily disagree, especially with the point about thethird world, but again, this country has decided it is moving in a post-racial direction for a largely economic sake, I might not agree wholly, but it isn't my real issue (the degeneracy is) and I don't think ending it fixes the problem of cutural decline

>3rd
japan is not maintaining its culture, it's descended from a proud honr nbased culture to one that exports sex-bots, they are ethnically homogenous and "japanese" but they lost their values, and their race suffers as a result (the low birth rates)

this is what I'm saying, the racial issue is just a front for the real issue which is a lack of VALUES not a lack of whites

Being nationalist for anything means you're proud of accomplishments of other people. That's why basement neckbeards, ghetto niggers, tumblr landwhales and yuropoor slavs like OP all fall for the nationalist meme because they literally have no accomplishments of their own. They live unfulfilling lives and identity politics serve as a method of escapism for them.

You should only be proud of what you've done yourself, not what some ancestor of yours that you barely have any relation to did centuries ago. Otherwise you're just easily manipulated by propaganda and groupthink.

>>137484706
mexicans and africans have remained barbarian even after being christianized

the most devout christian nation in the world is the Democratic Republic of the Congo. also one of the most dangerous.

>>137475575
>even if i was born there i would never say i am american
You're stupid as fuck.

>>137485485
I truly have no idea what you're trying to say here

the roman church were the ones who forced the values into the europeans, what are you talking about?

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>>137475575
as long as theyre not saying hateful things, then it is ok to be nationalistic of whoever you are

>>137485973
so they aren't adhering to the values appropriately, doesn;t surprise me their societies suck because of it, doesn't mean the values don't hold if you ACTUALLY stick to them

>>137486105
You said Europeans were all barbarians until Christianity those were your near exact words I meant what I said look where Italy is and Greece are on the map Europe. Rome and ancient Greece were pretty civilized without Christianity. That's what i'm talking about you cretin.

>>137485933
1st point
>america does want a post-racial society
why then was there a massive increase of identity politics in the past few years, mostly started by the minorities? they clearly do not want a post-racial america.

i think whites would've been ok with it if people assimilated and respected those who came before them. you have to realize that the "post-racial" america was rejected by minorities, not whites. since minorities rejected it, whites had no choice but to react or lose everything.

2nd point
here is the thing, america already has a load of talented people. why not train our own up rather than import people who would be of great service to their homelands? because you know what happens next right? once the good immigrants are gone, you start to get the shitty ones because their nations have fallen apart. a nigerian doctor has much more value in nigeria than in america. we need to focus on training our own again.

3rd point
japan has nearly 130 million people. a decline in the birth rate won't be too harmful. and with automation, a lot of jobs can be done by robots in the future, so low skill migration will not be needed.

if japan has lost its values, how will immigrants restore those anyway? you act as if immigration will somehow revive the values and get rid of degeneracy.

>>137486459
then how can you guarantee that they will adhere to those values appropriately by moving here? if they can't do it at home, what makes you think they will succeed here? this is just going back to the "magic dirt" argument that anyone who comes here can make it, which is clearly not true if you look at the growing number of people on welfare and other assistance.

>>137486461
and i'm telling you those people had to force those values onto the other white people

call it christianity call it whatever, the point is european whites were once uncivilized as well, and they changed

you're supposed to be HAPPY to see white people demographically replaced in their own countries. bad goy, very naughty. you are in need of immediate reeducation, tune into John Oliver on HBO later tonight to begin.

>>137486704
So was everybody in the classical period you dumbfuck. If you wan't to argue history and geography at least know what you're talking about what you're saying makes no sense anymore you've changed what you've said like 3 times now it's laughable. Your points stink btw whites shouldn't be replaced in their own society that they built NO ONE should go through that. The whole reason this movement exists is because we understand being systematically replaced and our culture destroyed isn't a think we'd like to see happen simple as that.

>>137486533
>1st point
I wouldn't take what black lives matter protesters say as gospel in terms of what all minorities think, that soros money gives them alot of their crazier opinions and the microphone to make it sound like thats what everyone thinks.

>2nd
I would love to start training our own again, and I think immigration has a large part to do with that, BUT the racial aspect simply does not, you can both keep out shitty nigerian losers and invest in your own citizens, the two are not attached

>3rd
again, THE IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT BEING BROUGHT IN THE RESTORE VALUES, THAT IS NOT MY SUGGESTION, my proposal to you is that DEGENRACY destroys societies and racially homogeneity does not stop thise, you are still yet to prove that

>>137486699
you TEST them, and if they fail you send them back, I don't NEED more people here, I just don't need to tell the worthwhile ones to fuck off

>>137487462
again, you're just speaking drivel, fuck off

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>>137487682
whats drivel? ofc you don't answer me straight typical tricks.

>>137487495
>1st point
it's not just BLM, it's the fact the most minorities vote for a party that openly calls for more immigration, more PC thought policing, and explicitly open anti-white ideology. and when 70% of asians, a group that tends to be wealthy, votes for the redistribution party, you know there has to be additional reasoning behind that.

>2nd
problem is if you bring in too many people, then you have oversaturated the market. not to mention, nigerians need doctors too. if we let them keep some of their finest, they might actually develop

>3rd
degeneracy does destroy societies, but i'm not seeing why this means we need to continue current immigration policy. seems like you have a vested interest in making sure whites are a minority.

>>137475575
> why being a white nationalist is a bad thing
Think but, don't act. I don't fell bad that they were run over but, nobody should be running anyone over.

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>>137488335
>yes goy don't a-act PLEASE DONT! Everyone be nice now!

>>137488303
>1st
the democratic party is evil, this is true, but in a binary political system, the way to WIN things for whatever you believe is to make a conglomerate of interests with other similarly minded folks, i.e. the republican party. it is ESSENTIAL therefore that one doesn't descend to being as insane as the democrats, we need normies to join us.

I know the democrats are evil, truly, I do, but we are good because we don't believe in their divisive and hateful racialist ideology that makes people engage in this whole pseudo-conflict

>2nd
look I'd like to close the borders off as much as possible, but still the fact is that the society larger than the US known as the west has moved on to a post-racial world, racialist answers are not sufficient, stricter border policies maybe, but the white identity part needs to go, not cause i find it offensive its just bad startegy

>3rd
this goesback to my second point, immigration policies don't need to be racial policies. let's tighten the borders, but there is no valid reason to tighten them on racial bases

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>>137489114
>1st You are the normies Republicans today let themselves be stepped on by outside interest i.e giving billions to Israel the left is a made up foe propped up by funding to be as insane as possible so that the unorthodox (sending $ to Israel useless wars enormous jewish presence in media banking and politics" looks normal they are manufactured for the problem population, the right to fight so they are preoccupied and don't focus on the real topics.

>2nd Why do we have to put up with the disproportionate crime that minorites cause? Why do we have to capitulate to them? They are in a white country we should have the final say we have every right to put ourselves on a pedestal.

>3rd Like I said before if you have your population being replaced you would want to do such things as restrict by race we have every right we built these lands they did not they are not they are living off of welfare and being societal parasites wanting us to bend to their will converting to their religion and their culture we are too accepting we need to tell them "this is ours not yours" race is way more than just the skin you're avoiding the facts and the importance of race on society as a whole it isn't invisible and won't go away if you ignore it.

>>137490617
>someone would read any of this

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>>137477777
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>>137480132
white is a thing you dumb fucks, and it has been for a while. it's the white american ethnicity that doesn't have a singular word for it. it should be just "american" but we're fucking 60%, the term "american" was co-opted by non-white non-americans. or if you want, the "white" race should change to european or something similar since all the other common race names derive from where they originally came from.

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>>137491195
>It's green so it's unreadable.
okay.

>>137475575
the modern nation state is the second most corrupt and ineffective institution in existance today after international charities.

There is no place for more nationalism of any kind.

>>137477777
This is sadly true.

>>137483024
I actually think GM humans will try to segregate from wild type humans, though probably just with gated communities and the like.

>>137491263
This does not prove anything. Nobody in Europe call themselves or other people white, except the Swedes to shame themselves.

>>137477777
>>>137492160
>The movement is that we want our country to be white again like what do you guys take it for? You guys must have 2 brain cells we never said whites don't have different cultures or that white nationalism is somehow it's own culture whites are the same genetically and behaviorally to a large extent even their cultures have an overarching theme but they aren't the same (same with ethnicity) but if you do this you're obviously nitpicking. Putting thousands of shitskins in France for example wouldn't make it France it would be another whole new thing and assimilation only would work when the whites were still the majority after that the societies would become different due to racial differences in behavior and intelligence. People saying that white race doesn't exist is retarded, like you only use the ethnicity or by country argument when it comes to whites but yet you still call all blacks black and all Asians Asian and don't argue that. Complete autism.

>>137493679
Excuse the greentext like before i'm tired and i'm making more errors.

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>>137475575
Have you ever described yourself as "white" anywhere else in the world, other than this board? If you go to Poland and say that Poles are the same as Ukrainians because their skin color is the same you'll get beat the fuck up. If you go to Africa and say that Tutsi and Hutu are the same because of their complexion they won't be pleasant neither. "White", "black" and other blanket statements have no meaning anywhere in the world, other than this pathetic excuse for a nation called USA.

When a man is 15% Nigerian, 20% German, 30% British and 35% French then what is he? A normal person would say that he's a mongrel, an American will say that he's "white" because otherwise he would have to admit that his entire heritage is fucked beyond recognition and no longer has any meaning. They literally cannot identify with anything else other than their skin color. There is no such thing as American nationality.

>>137480313
The meat on the cheek is actually very good

Race ≠ nationality you can be like you said a Nigerian living in Britain you'd still be British due to your passport. Ethnic tensions and Nationalistic/cultural tension is different. I bet if you asked those same poles what race they were they'd say they would be white since "polish" isn't a race.

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>>137485973
Mexicans and Africans mix weird voodoo shit in with Christianity

>>137494726
Never heard the word "white" used in reference to race before I got on the internet and started reading (((western))) sources. We were only taught about being 1. Poles and 2. Slavs. Even blacks are called either Africans or Negros (Murzyni).