Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wro

>>137436903
>I just can't believe people far more educated and smart would fall for something that seems so wrong to me.
the propaganda is usually very subtle, which means the only people who can notice it are those who know it exists and are looking for it

i doubt we are right about everything, but we dont have to be
high iq =/= knowledge
just because someone is smart doesnt mean they are always right, you can have a high iq yet be completely oblivious to propaganda, knowledge is what really matters

>>137436903
serious question: are you getting paid ? or are you just shilling for fun ?

No, it is the children that are wrong

>>137436903
There's at least 2 sides constantly spewing shit to get you on one or the other side. The Left sees the Right's propaganda in the same way the Right sees the Left's; incomprehensible and idiotic. If we're constantly bickering amongst ourselves and blaming each other for our woes we'll never rise up and expel (((them))) and their lackeys.

>>137438285
he posted a valid question
the answer is 'virtue signaling'
people always want a seat with the cool kids, and they always want to ostracize the nerds.

Its just human nature. Even smart people are not immune to clique power

>>137438285
No, I legitimately can't believe someone could fall for such blatant propaganda so I feel like maybe I am actually wrong.

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>>137436903
Yes, we're on the right side. Don't listen to (((propaganda))). Just use your gesunder Menschenverstand. John Oliver is paid by the DNC, see Wikileaks.

>>137438790
i know what you mean anon, i feel the same way too sometimes, because i know im not a genius

wrong,right well all i know is if you pull this off, your gonna be real heros, just like me.

>>137436903
it's not concern trolling, it's shilling masquerading as "our goy" who is trying to help make sense of the situation. There's something you shills must know though, this board is completely meaningless, and there are 100s of thousands of white men most of whom never even browsed 4chan at all who will never forget what people like you have done to them, to this country, and to their families. They will ditch the neo nazi outlook but it will be ever present in what you shills like to call microaggressions for decades to come. Good night ctrl-left.

>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?

Everyone was saying Brexit would never happen, all the media, all the polls, everything pointed to a Remain victory. Except /pol/

Everyone was saying there was literally no way Trump could win, that he should just drop out, that It's her turn. Except /pol/

So yes, I do believe that a large majority of people can be wrong about a great many things.

>>137436903
You're falling victim to the hard shilling they've been doing ever since this happened, they're scared, relax.

/pol/ is wrong about a lot of shit, but you're forgetting the years that these people have parroted racialist talking points, constantly invoked race in arguments and as indictments versus people, used race as the main discerning factor in how virtuous versus how evil you are and it's all now coming to a head. Current year man has been caught dealing in flat out lies plenty of times in the past and leftist pundits constantly mislead and lie (muh Russia, muh police brutality on blacks)

I will say this. We need much better people. These Nazi LARPers doing the open hand salute at rallies, Kekistanis and other fucking idiots have got to go. The media and most normalfaggots have so far ignored left wing terror (BLM killing cops, the Bernout who murdered a Trump supporter, the fucking Democrat lunatic who shot up a congressional baseball game because they were GOP members), but one slip up from us garners open hatred and vilification.

Start fucking acting right, idiots. You're making us look bad with this stupid shit. FIGHT WITH YOUR MIND. Don't be an Antifa nigger and take a page out of their book. Their violence is part of the reason why they've yet to make any headway amongst the moderate population and are considered a domestic terror group.

>>137436903
When you've been raised with something your entire life and you want to fit in with society. You will believe what everyone else is fooled by. It took my friends trying to convince me that Trump was going to nuke the world and not vote for him to open my perspective. If I was right about this. Was I wrong about everything else?

>>137436903
DUDE CURRENT YEAR LMAO

>>137436903
the saddest thing is that he actually used to be pretty funny on the now show in about 2006,when he was anti bush, it was a bit hackneyed but all his stuff now is awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPOKdFLJbbo

The week in radio: The Bugle; The Now Show

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/dec/04/the-bugle-now-show-andy-zaltzman-review

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>>137436903
>I just can't believe people far more educated and smart would fall for something that seems so wrong to me.

Amazing things can be achieved through propaganda.

>>137436903
It also should be very obvious at this point that the Democrats and Republicans are two heads of the same (((beast))) with their pet causes chosen strategically to keep the issues in the realm of trivial social ass faggotry instead of real concerns.
Trump is either a plant to galvanize the voter base for the next election or he's just a guy that didn't expect to be President and is making the most of it.

Lastly, always remember there are more than just average Internet shitposters on /pol/
Be critical of any information you receive here.

>>137438790
Just know that /pol/ may not be right about everything, but the fact that it's right about anything at all is enough to scare me shitless.

For the average person, obvious propaganda is just normal truth with a little extra lies tacked on. However, once you truly submit to the rational mind, the mind that seeks the truth, the contrast between the truth you find and the obvious propaganda is extremely clear. But for an average person, that contrast is much smaller. This results in almost everyone appearing to be wrong.

Remember that the official truth at one point was that the sun revolved around the earth. This is what everyone thought, everyone in authority, and everyone who followed that authority. Now we know it is wrong.

>>137436903
The difference between you and them is that they've been indoctrinated to an Anti-American global Marxist ideology that permeates the education system. They're wrong because they compare everything to a false non-existent utopian world which is completely unhinged from reality. Their arguments and policies are based on feelings and when actually put into place tend to fail tremendously.

The right is formulating their views on logic and economics while doing what they can to preserve America and its interests.

>>137439745
Which is the same thing the board says about Colbert. Meaning the board hasn't changed its politics, the rest of the country did.

>>137436903
Here's a redpill about the mainstream. The mainstream exists to brainwash and manipulate,the mainstream is the biggest bluepill the elites control. Most times if the mainstream is against it WE should be for it.

>>137436903
The vast majority of people in the vast majority of places for the vast majority of history have been ethnocentric as all hell. Let go of your presentism and you'll realize, you're in very, very good company.

>>137439318
Your comment is sort of part of the problem, because sometimes I think that maybe everyone is just a retard and I actually know more than them about what is going on.
But then someone like you pops up and it really makes me think that if I believe the same thing as you do then it actually can't be that at all.

>>137436903
>Germany
Ah makes sense

>>137436903
>I disagree with everyone else
>they are wrong and I'm right
Fucking tards like you are ruining this shithole of a board ahmed

>>137436903
Shut the fuck up you stupid shill.

>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?
yep

>>137436903
99% of people are always wrong because they only possess 1% of the data or are too stupid to analyze it.

>>137436903
>jewtube
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=DXszx68uhsY
fix'd

People are generally terrified that we might be right about race, genetic predisposition, and criminality. If we're right, their perception of reality is fucked. That's why they won't allow any scientific study on the matter. What if they're wrong? What do they have left?

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>>137436903
Hmmm yes very interesting

>Berkley riots
https://youtu.be/XImz4b2KtAw
>Don lemon vs Sheriff David Clarke on blm after shooting death of 5 officers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRen8nI8_aM
>Don lemon and cnn defending the blm kidnapping and torture video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv25bPGoxw4
>Pelosi attempting to rebuke republicans after the DC baseball shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bomqmeNSVRs
>Commentary and media reaction after the targeted shooting death of 5 officers in Dallas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIaoJ3G-l3I
>Antifa attacking the homeless in Olympia, Washington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fLl1I2HfbY
>Liberals attacking homeless black woman for supporting Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxKV0wL71DI
>Antifa "professors aide" attacking with bike lock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKCl9NL1Cg
>Antifa attacking random people in Berkeley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BZvhYkB4xo
>Antifa attacking a man in front of police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewQPJ01LiRE
>Antifa trying to lie after attacking man videotaping them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fLl1I2HfbY
>Antifa stabs a horse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rpjkWb_62s
>Antifa attacking with knives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewQPJ01LiRE

Don Lemon said it wasn't racist, it was bad parenting on the blm kidnapping. With Bernie Sanders agreeing Wolf Blitzer said the shooter of the republican congressional baseball game wasn't evil just tired of politics. Pelosi said it was republicans fault the shooting happened.

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>>137436903
$$$$$$$$$$$$
They are all whores

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>>137436903
Ive asked myself the same questions multiple times. How can more successful people believe this shit? How can smarter people believe it all? It seems so easy to identify the bullshit.

>>137436903
>educated
You mean indoctrinated.

>>137439819
But we all have been exposed to same types of propaganda as them. Are we just smarter?

>>137438790
Its called gaslighting and consesus cracking and YOU are falling for it. Few of the anons here are well read or intelligent enough to even name the tactic anymore. Its meant to alienate you and make you feel like you are alone in your opinion. You arent.

>>137436903
>100 far leftists screaming on TV = everyone

I'm starting to see why Hitler/Goebbels had such an easy time brainwashing the German people.

This puppet is just as bad as Alex the Jones buy my fucking water filter. Everything you have seen in the last 30 years was planed. It is a show a narrative. I started looking personally in to shit when I saw with my own eyes what bull shit show they pulled on 911. you are all getting fucked and I am comfy real comfy.

>>137440752
>Are we just smarter?
Not smarter per se, but more curious and less swayed by popular opinion. Women and lemmings have no independent faculties and are driven by popular opinion.

>>137440028
This. Once you understand that the best and brightest people your civilization produces may in fact be totally asleep at the wheel on several overwhelmingly important issues you can never quite sleep like you used to again...

>>137440752
>Are we just smarter?
No, you just prefer a different brand. It's all designed this way on purpose.
>Are we just smarter?
This is what they want you to think. Between Rights who can't even properly spell calling everyone around them retarded cucks and the Lefties who can't even hold a job or be bothered to do schoolwork calling everyone around them uneducated; simply, if you think you're right you'll never stop to question why you're right.

>>137439031

Interesting choice of picture there medpak. Kali Yuga never ends.

>>137441002
I know about gaslighting but what is consensus cracking?

>>137436903
>trump did too much or too little of blank

How does that pass as astute analysis? If his argument rests on wanting precise speech and pr dexterity then he's just nitpicking needlessly. It's good to re-evaluate your positions but don't let his poor thesis plant a seed of doubt that isn't warranted

>>137441373
Sounds like you try too hard to be an enlightened centrist and just use tired cliches to feel superior.

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>>137436903
pic related was #2 on trending and it had much more reasonable comments

phonies like john oliver are getting desperate and taking the shilling to the next level but it's not working

>>137440752
I wouldn't be surprised. These big brain Harry Potter fans do believe a lot of blatantly silly things, like "race doesn't exist" and "women are just as strong as men." I mean, I know people with medical degrees who have said to my face that sex segregation in professional sports is unfair to women.

>>137440047
Another trick I've noticed is that by inoculating people against propaganda meant for other people, you can trick the target into thinking its been inoculated against propaganda of all kind.

Take Fox News. I think most people on here would agree its propaganda for normie conservatives. Shit like the Daily Show and whatever teaches the young how Fox News works. But of course Fox News propaganda isnt MEANT for young college kids in blue states, so it was never going to work on them anyway. And behind this facade of "we're teaching you what propaganda is, zomg 1984!!!!" they slip in the ACTUAL propaganda designed for young college kids in blue states.

I'd say its impressive if it wasn't so fucking nefarious

>>137440752
Not to sound pretentious but I think that's reasonable to assume. I don't know what else could explain the general skepticism that this board shows. I think it has to do with pattern recognition.

Think about it. How many people have gone through redpilling experiences but for one reason or the other, don't start to apply that red pill model to other aspects of their life? I guess I can only speak for myself, but the only reason I ever believed any of this shit was because I recognized this stuff in my daily life. Ever since I was a kid I thought somethinf was off but I couldn't quite put a finger on it. Once I could put a name to a certain "truth" about the world, suddenly this "truth" started to become clear in other aspects of my life. We recognized these patterns.

It's the biggest reason, I think, why a normie or a pollack can look at race statistics and a normie will choose to ignore it while a skeptical/redpilled person will look at the stats and see an obvious correlation.

>>137441595
>Not even 500K views
>less than 10% Upvotes
>on trending
Whoever the cuck is, he lost. No one takes him serious.

>>137441589
What's more retarded:
Believing there's a super deep, super well connected shadow organization that has controlled many aspects of American living since the 40's and owns all the major information outlets could be playing both sides
OR
The shit you support is still on TV and the Internet after all that?

>use tired cliches to feel superior
Yeah, how dare I not accept either world of propaganda as absolute truth; I must be some kind of monster.

If you wont to know how fucked we are ask the German people what was going on right before ww2 between the left and right. Or may be the Romans before the liberal Christians came to power or may be the old Egyptians what happened to them when the workers revolted. There is one common thing dividing us and I bet you can think it out. (((the people fucking you and your children right now)))

>>137436903
You just experienced the thinking of the left. Now you see why they're so brainwashed.

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Yep.

It's a bitter pill to swallow though, it's such a burden.

It`s part of being redpilled.

We are right.

>>137442210
OP's video is the same video but only with 275k views and 8k upvotes and it's #3 on trending

>>137442247
Not sure who you are arguing with in your first point but you are probably winning. Keep doing it pal.

As far as the second point, there is no value in distrusting both sides. The truth is not in the middle and if two people saying contradictory things they are not both wrong.

>>137436903
>he renamed it from "White supremacist rally" to Charlottesville
Hmmmmmm

>>137436903

Amazing to watch John Oliver.

They are perfecting their conditioning of the sheep. With laughter and boos right on cue.

Must being so comfortable. Being told exactly what to believe, what to feel and who to hate.

>>137436903
It's us and ((( you ))) ShareBlue bro.

This "oh look at all these other people who come from differnt ideologies all agreeing on this one thing", no longer works.

You didn't allow for anything other than your psycho circus leftist ideologies.

White chimp out incoming.

SAGE GOES IN OPTIONS

>>137441595
That's another thing. Where the fu k are these reasonable people? Are they too afraid to speak out in real life?

Time and time again I see that the comments of most sites have pretty reasonable perspectives and common sense. They're not the majority but they exist in quantity, at least. Why the fuck am I surrounded by brainwashed commies and almost zero people using common sense?

>>137442454
Goolag really tries too hard. Well, don't care, downloaded the vid and will put some gore and barely legal porn in it to reupload

>>137436903
It's nonsensical bullshit. They have their world view and are utterly entrenched in it, they have created a whole ecosystem to push their ideas of truth and will not tolerate dissent. Some of us do the same thing. It's important to come to your own conclusions and shun group think in all it's forms.

It's also important to note that Mr current year helps push a particular brand of politics that benefit people around and above him. They have no desire for objective truth AND people push it to those that eat it up. It's as dangerous as a anything the far right could ever dream of pushing.

Reject both, be true to yourself.

>>137442672
>The truth is not in the middle and if two people saying contradictory things they are not both wrong.
And neither is right on everything. It's important to have values but allowing them to divide you on an us vs. them objective basis is the entire point.

>>137442777
What are you even talking about?

>>137443054
Radical centrism
>>>/lit/

>>137436903
>Racism is evil -- and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans

it's okay, Trump is starting to become one of the good guys

>>137439443
underrated

>>137436903

The smart and educated are just as divided as anyone else. If you listen closely to all sides of an argument, they have the same, or similar, concerns to the average person. They simply explain it better.

The issue which escalated this is the silencing of the right. When I say right I mean conservative. The brow beating and bullying which takes place has forced the average person to the arms of the far right as they are the only ones willing to stand up to them.

Simply having an opinion on immigration can cost you your job. Simply questioning the customs of another can land you in prison. This is not the free society people want to live in and they will take extreme measures to get it back.

You are not wrong to think anything. They are controlling the narrative, the tighter they impose their grip the harder people are going to push back.

>>137436903
We elected Trump. Everyone else pushed for Hillary. Those people aren't just wrong, they deserve to be executed for crimes against humanity.

sage because its lefty/pol/ thread #32 on the board right now.

>>137443182
We should try to find out which side is closer to the truth then instead of just claiming that both are wrong and settling for comfortable useless centrist position.

>>137443275
he has to condemn the violence, anything else would be political suicide. notice how he said "on many sides" in the first statement and he still says "and other hate groups" and he downplayed the importance of the charlottesville stuff by talking about other topics first. the civil rights investigation will be interesting to see the result of because they can't just ignore the antifa/blm/sjw side of it.

>>137436903
Even recognizing you might be wrong puts you in a higher position than any of the parroting blobs, desu. retard propaganda caters to retards. Retards don't question or think. They just look around them, see if other people are agreeing and then agree

So there is this Shepard. He keeps getting his sheep taken by a pack of wolfs. Comes up with a cool plan gets a pack of dogs to chase the sheep and keep them alert on there guard. This starves the wolfs till they are week and can be dealt with easily. Do not be a sheep, be a dog. So the Shepard can eventually eliminate the (((wolf))).

>>137443745
>We should try to find out which side is closer to the truth

That is exactly it. But we cannot have a discussion on any subject for the fear of offending someone.

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>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?
It's possible.

I argue vigorously with people about EU politics, monetary policy, migration etc. and whenever I argue with lefties it usually ends in a shitfest of "why don't you think of the children you heartless monster" and other loaded emotional non-arguments.

Those shows spent years trying to prove that guilt by association in the case of Muslims is a logical fallacy and once a white-supremacist kills (implying he even is one and intended to kill that women) they tear all their work down to blame Trump and the conservative movement for it.
How is that not inconsistent and stupid?

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>>137443533
>Those people aren't just wrong, they deserve to be executed for crimes against humanity.

this is precisely what was done in my home country, and now it is doing better than ever.

>>137442903
Because they barely exist you fuckin moron. How haven't you realized yet that you're a tiny fuckin minority. Even the election, minority. My chances of runnining into an anti trump person, even in trump country, is fuckin astronomical. What you see in those comments are literally robots. Whether they're real people or not, like ctr, they take to shit that makes them look bad and try to control the narrative by making 10 retards look like 100 retards. Notice how they all mention antifa and blm? The narrative, the record, the lie, the bullshit. Blm isn't a terrorist organization, if they were, the fbi and doj would make them so, especially after having 7 fuckin months to do so. They've been investigated. They have no centeral leadership, which leads us to anitfa, who do not exist outside of western europe. Here in the states it's like anonymous, hey I'm antifa, see how easy that is. No central, national leadership. Holy fuck

>>137436903
you're fucking retarded if you didn't grasp the fact that we shifted the focus of violence and unrest from Syria to the United States in the name of sovereignty and pure heartbreak for the Christians, Kurds and other peaceful peoples of The middle east. What you never cease to fail at grasping is that this IS a simulation, and your embarrassing march is hardwired programming, because you're still locked in the matrix like sheep. Charlottesville and the shitstorm was designed against you in an attempt to bring us down with you. I shouldnt tell you any of this. I will tell you one thing though, leftists are worse
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=44e_1406655216

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>>137436903
OP is obvious tavistock shill.

Current year man is also tavistock shill.

>>137436903
They don't call it ZOG for nothing.

>>137444271
That my friend is a bingo.

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>>137444246
>Blm isn't a terrorist organization
>>137444246
sweet christ this whole post

>>137436903
Successful and intelligent humans are those who can adapt to their environment the best, doesn't matter if they adapt to a lie. IQ is the power to rationalize everything. There are many intellectuals yet idiots in this world, so don't let yourself be intimidated because you think you don't have enough processing power in your brain.

>>137444246
>reasonable people barely exist
>one of the most retarded flags
Checks out.

>>137444246
What are you fighting against then?

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>>137440752
>Are we just smarter?

I just like pictures of frogs, fractals, butterflies and tornadoes a lot these days.

> everybody else is wrong except us?

Who is "us"? We are both posting from Germany or am I missing something?

Let the USA manage their shit so that we can manage ours. We will never get a similar movement off the ground in Germany unless it succeeds in the USA first.

>>137436903
Is it just me or that faggot uses every moment to attack Trump?
Like if a tornado happens in the other part of the globe, Cuckliver will still blame Trump.

>>137443745
>We should try to find out which side is closer to the truth
There is no objective truth to many of the hot button issues; logical arguments can be made in either direction on things like abortion, gun rights, immigration, etc. The major talking points of both major parties.
Centrism is only seen as useless because Right and Left think are easy; just pick the platform that best represents you, vote, and forget about it. A Centrist platform would require more scrutiny of issues; a feat I fear many in the general public would not be open to or even able to do due to biases learned in childhood and reinforced or unlearned in formative years.

no it's just the jew run media and very vocal lefties. This is the sort of shit that caused Trump to win honestly no one likes the fucking media

>>137436903
Don't be consumed by self-doubt.

Of course it is possible! What's more, the way of the majority is usually the way to hell.

Matthew 7.13-14:
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

>>137444966
This is not just about USA though. Both them and us and almost every western country are facing the same type of problem and the media is pushing the same type of narrative.
What I sometimes wonder if whether the narrative is correct or not.

>>137444246
>Blm isn't a terrorist organization

Yes they most certainly do NOT use violence and threats of violence against civilians to forward a political agenda.
right?
right?

>>137436903
Yes, you are wrong my friend. Do you think majority of /pol/ represents the cream of the crop? It's the opposite mate. Here hide and post the bottom feeders and no-lifers.

>>137445083
There are objective things like whether race differences are real. A lot of policies would depend on that.

>>137441745
This is an insightful fucking comment. For a leaf that is.

>>137436903
Somethings gotta be wrong, right? Look around. Its easy to say degeneracy is rampant, and we have lost our cultural identity, but that just sparks an argument on the merits of whether degeneracy is wrong and cultural identity is relevant. But the fact is, the west is trailing in scientific advancement, leading in depression and suicide, and risks a stagnating economy. Theres an air of feeling hated for being ones self. And celebration of our traditions and culture have shifted to celebrating others who we unwillingly are forced to support. The west is unappreciated, alienated, disenfranchised, and frankly, tired of trying. It all looks like its getting worse.

So what if everyone else is right? All they've done for the past decade is tell us we are wrong for being ourselves and trying to achieve.

>>137444668
Don't write a name down you fucking faggot.

That fake booing in the video is just disgusting.

>>137436903
>TV ZOMBIE DETECTED
Listen, turn off your fucking television, it is making you fucking retarded.

Remember how many people predicted the housing crash????

Yeah it was like 8 all informed by a single autist.

The frame of reference is all that matters. To the religious devil worship is bad, to the satanist the luciferisnism is good.

Time alone tells the folly of mans beliefs.

>>137445851
>A lot of policies would depend on that.
0 policies depend on that explicitly as it would be political suicide, at least for now.

>"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate."

The more I speak with you, the more I begin to realize this thread was never intended to honestly assess propaganda in the media; it's a just a means to vindication after falling prey to gas-lighting.

>>137443830

>the civil rights investigation will be interesting to see the result of because they can't just ignore the antifa/blm/sjw side of it.

Yeah but why the fuck not name them now? I'm sorry but I'm just so fucking sick of their being so little open condemnation of antifa especially in face of how the media and establishment left abets and cheers them on. All of the shit they've pulled, from the Berkeley riots to the Hamburg riots and the sabotaging of border security against refugees, these fucking animals are treated as at best some mysterious force of nature.

He's (rightfully) made a huge fuss over over Obama and co refusing to name radical Islam, so why not antifa?

When and IF he openly condemns antifa, he needs to openly describe who and what they are- gangs of violent communists and anarchists. When and IF he names them, he needs to call attention to how they share the ideology of the most murderous regimes of the 20th century and what was once our mortal enemy. It's fine to talk about "nazis" and "white supremacists" representing un-American ideology, but why the fuck not antifa and their function as militant communists? Would really draw attention from the "REAGAN WAS R GREATEST PRESIDENT" boomers too.

I'm just so fucking sick of how animals like antifa get a free pass.

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>>137446438
dont tell me wat to fugg fgt

>>137446666
No, policies depend on races being exactly the same. Affirmative action assumes that blacks and white are exactly the same biologically and any inequalities are based on historical wrongdoing.
Same with immigration. If whites and latinos or muslims are equal then there is nothing wrong with mass migration and they should adjust to society. If they don't then it must be because of discrimination.
So my point is race differences either exist or don't and policies around them are then either justified or not.

>>137436903
John Oliver is 100% CORRECT. That video is SPOT ON.

The current civilization evolved because there was hundreds of years of conflict between tribes, nation's groups of people, ideas, believes, theories etc. The strangest ones came on top. If someone think's this is a status quo I can't say anything else then that he is a stupid person. Why did USA came out as the biggest winner of ww2, because it was the most united nation behind a goal at the time. The current western politics about diversity go against the historical strong nation strong state storyline. I can't even think of a state today that is following this basic political guideline, maybe Israel and Iran are the only states that follow this guideline. So without competition what do you get as a nation state?

>>137436903
>I am a pretty dumb guy

I agree, you are pretty fucking retarded.

>>137445480
They don't. Prove they do without showing me a clip of a bunch of thugs shouting fuck the police is new york or bringing up the dallas shooter, who in fact hated blm bc they were more concerned with black women and black trans fags

>>137447817
Thanks for agreeing with me bud

>>137445989
Great post brother

>>137438790
I feel the same. Eventually I decided that no one is ever right and we just have to side where our loyalties are.

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>>137448225

>>137442777
KEK HAS SPOKEN

WHITE CHIMP OUT INCOMMING

>>137436903
/pol/ is autistic is fuck. I imagine most people her are shut-ins and thus have the time and energy to sift through all the bullshit and propaganda.

Normies on the other hand are too busy doing normie shit to be able to read between the line and detect when something is off. Honestly, I trust /pol/ much more than any normie when it comes to what's really going on in the world & behind the scenes.

>>137447523
But all of that depends on whether you believe all humans deserve the same basic rights or whether you take a more pragmatic view; neither of which can be sufficiently proven or disproven.

>>137448406
Not an arguement

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>>137436903
Although it is considered a sign of mental illness to find fault with the world rather than with oneself, you are correct to a point. There is an interesting post that appears on /pol/ when this man is mentioned, it is an analysis of his technique by an anon versed in psychology.
I have not yet read the rest of the thread, it is possible this post may be up ITT already, and if not, I ask /pol/ to provide it for the OP.

>>137446676
Antifa are used as an excuse for the government to shut down protests due to "violence". They don't admit that the police are forced to stand down. Basically just a government approved way to curtail the 1st amendment.

Trump can't condemn antifa yet. But we have to keep coming out, not being afraid, not starting violence or running people over and eventually the media will have to face the reality of antifa.

>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?
OF COURSE. They claim we live in a sexist, patriarchal, rape culture. The fucking West in 2017! Easily the most pro-woman society in human history. And of the bullshit claims have come about in the last few years. Marxists/Jews do this. Remember that Yuri guy said?

The scary part of it all is it proves just how many people don't really think for themselves or will go along with any evil just to fit in.

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>>137436903
>>Tiki torches

Wew lad I can't this faggot anymore

I watched the whole episode, here's the tell
>segment on North Korea
>complains how propaganda is everywhere in NORK, even in math class
>proceeds to tell math question joke about white kid stealing brown kid heritage
Hahaha, NORKs are too stupid to notice they are endoctrinated.

>>137449237
And I'm too stupid to spell. Indoctrinated.

>>137448568
Yep. When all of (((the media))) starts saying the same things, people trust that they're being told the truth. This is why Jews, who have a long history of doing this to people, have to go.

>>137439318
>ctrl-left
That's good

>>137449237
Why do people find that entertaining? I've only found that he's boring, and recently I have a more negative view of him (propaganda agent).

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>>137442763

It eats me up inside.

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>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?
If you had read the bible like I told you then you would know this. It clearly states in the endtimes only 40000 out of ALL the people on earth will not be blinded by Satan. Only those few thousand stand by God and see the world like he does.

>>137449165
>And of the bullshit claims
All*

>>137436903

I think a lot of women truly believe the SJW narrative. Swallow it whole. Some men do too, but I think a lot of males are able to go along with it in order to keep themselves in a high status position. You simply can't work in a high level job without at least paying lip service to the prevailing narrative.

The fact is... white gentiles no longer control the culture... in terms of education, media, popular culture, etc. etc.... everything your read/see has been filtered by several layers of Jewish gatekeeper. They control all the information flow of society, so their worldview is the dominant worldview. They decide what is 'Official' and what is fringe.

Most people don't want to be on the Fringe, they want to be 'normal'... they WANT to be 'Normies' because that is what 'normal' people are. Most people don't want to be fighting society on the fringes they naturally want to be inside society fully.

The problem is the social organization is actually designed by Jews for Jews and is destructive for Gentiles... it's a really bizarre, awful predicament.

>>137448674
Human rights is an increadibly vague term which is why people probably like to throw it around.

By doing this you move a factual argument into realm of emotions where objectivity is actually impossible which is also not a very centrist thing to do.

You are essentially saying that it doesn't matter what the truth is, let's just be nice

>>137449694
>it's a really bizarre, awful predicament.
Indeed. They have to go, one way or another, sooner or later.

>>137436903
We're not. We came to our conclusions because we broke their conditioning and pursued truth fearlessly. They are just lemmings who swallow whatever lies they've been told.

>>137440752
>>137436903

Antifa got what they deserved. It was not enough for these sadistic vindictive morons to fire us from our jobs, blacklist us from institutions, disown us from parents, and assault us in universities. All for what exactly? Lighting up tiki torches and citing crime statistics?

Frankly, leftists deserve worse than a unintentional car accident. The fact that leftists aren't content with their violent actions proves that they are wrong.

>>137436903
It's not "obvious propaganda" if you only get your news from MSM account. MSM shows videos of White people with torches yelling and looking angry next to photos of KKK members next to photos of people raising Nazi flag. And then you have that photo of the two jabronis giving a Heil Hitler at the ACTUAL UniteTheRight rally. It's difficult if not impossible for a normie to question this narrative because it would require maybe 6 to 12 hours of delving into counterposition research and primary sources videos.

It doesn't help that Unite the Right chose the obvious association of torch-lit gatherings at confederate monuments with nazism. It doesn't help that some guy from Unite the Right drove into a crowd of people. It doesn't help that Unite the Right did nothing whatsoever to distance themselves from people throwing up heil hitlers and nazi flags and kkk flags.

We win when normies have an entryway into our dialectic. Because Unite the Right doesn't have a website, or a platform, or a unifying person, there is no way a normie can be persuaded to our position. There's no speech they can look to, or person they can look to, or website they can look to. So they think it's cut and dry.

You can't blame them. We packaged the event poorly. It should have ended with tiki torches, not started with tiki torches. Unite the Right should have beat the shit out of anyone doing heil hitlers or waving nazi flags. They need pamphlets and websites that concisely articulate the need for White cultural and historical awareness. They didn't do this.

It hurt us more than it helped us for sure.

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You have taken the real red pill

>>137436903
1950, Russia: Say the fruit of your labour is yours, you get killed and condemned by everyone. Were they right? "public opinion" is BS.

>>137436903
OP, pol is evil. Don't get tricked by their 'red pill' ... it's really a poison pill to mess with your mind. The devil is at work in this place.

If you unironically believe that everyone is wrong except for the tiny minority of radical extremists who believe the exact same things as you do, then you should probably start coming to grips with the idea that you're the one who is wrong after all.

>>137436903
>/pol/ is ignorant for not understanding they are being caged
why do you never see any new opinions? because the jews they hate so much have allowed this board to exist so that everyone else is left alone.

4chan's basically a cave system full of inbred, bumbling retards. what you do is tell the handicaps that they won't be judged and are anonymous and everyone shows their worst selves and all tards flock there to spew their opinions.

we're put in the backseat of the class. all bright kids are actually developing and becoming adults while we boil with our hatred, not hearing any of the education. nothing. we're left to doodle and sperg on our own not bothering the rest of the classroom.

that's us.

we're the retard that sits 5 seats and 5 rows in the back, shitting his pants and eating his boogers.

don't listen to these sperglords, that would be stupid. don't listen to the teachers but go find out for yourself.

educate yourself. that's the only way to be sure

>>137450533

I don't think that God wants humanity to practice sodomy and abortion like leftists do.

Leftists are the demons.

>>137436903
Fuck off shill.

>>137436903
Do some psilocybin, you'll realize how wrong everybody is in life, you'll realize that everything is fake and phony in pop culture and you're constantly being lied to and manipulated. it's jarring and you'll want to kill yourself but you realize there's not point in suicide.

>>137450769
Jesus hung out with harlots and prostitutes bro.

>>137450573
So john olivers narrative is correct?

i have a question for /pol

are most of you like actually serious? or are you all just having a giggle supporting trump and the alt right?

>>137450972
...because he wanted them to stop being degenerate.

>>137451145
It's not "John Oliver's narrative." These people self-identify as nazis. They wave nazi flags. They chant nazi slogans. They go online on nazi website and talk about nazi things. They're FUCKING NAZIS.

It's not a narrative. It's reality.

>>137450972

And he told them to sin no more. Additionally, his disciples denounced those people.

What you fail to realize is that Jesus doesn't love sin nor the promotion of sin, he wants people saved from sin.

In contrast, leftists want to protect their sin and penalize those who criticize it. Even by bearing false-witness, they will rightfully be judged.

>>137436903
>(((trending)))

>>137451277
where are you from? why do you hide behind a pirate flag?

>>137449880
>You are essentially saying that it doesn't matter what the truth is, let's just be nice
I am not, I'm presenting both sides of the fundamental argument.
If you've an argument for either or, let's hear it.

But, in all honesty, it doesn't really matter what the truth is. We'll all be dead in a few decades, forgotten in about the same amount of time barring some spectacular accomplishment that might buy you a century or two. Best we can do is comfort ourselves with trivial shit like pop culture or vidya or we can anchor ourselves to things like religion or duty to the next generation.

>>137436903
How do a few people control the many? In feudal times with force and control of food. In democracy, through propaganda and control of culture.

>>137451333

Actions matter, not the fucking coat of paint nimrod.

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>>137451396
true.

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The left wants a bad guy like from star wars or the avengers.
It aint working out so soros is trying to manufacture it while ignoring all the violence and stupid shit from the left which has been worse

>>137438790
Fear influences their opinions anon. They may even believe the same as you at their core, but their fear dictates their public expressions.

>>137449694
I would love to be a normie, but I just can't. I can fit in fine outwardly, everybody thinks I'm great and nice and normie. But I will never be able to force myself to believe all the SJW and corporatist shit pushed by the left. Apparently people who are redpilled can tell I'm redpilled though, they can see something behind my curtains. It's faint though, so normies either notice but willfully ignore, or don't notice at all.

>>137451277
None of your business

>>137451633
The coat of paint matters. You can't have fascism without political violence and oppression. That's why most people DON'T LIKE NAZIS.

When you wave a nazi flag, what you're doing is telling everyone around you, "I want to institute a totalitarian government that will monitor & murder dissidents, disappear people for speaking out, and generally foster a culture of fear and intimidation." You are threatening their very way of life. The coat of paint absolutely matters when the coat you're wearing suggests to everyone around you that you're a giant fucking asshole.

Fuck 4chan! Nothing but a nazi safe space!

>>137450533
run away now if you want to remain a normie... I have too large a thirst for information though. glad I found /pol/

>>137436903
>>137449193

Also forgot this

John Oliver: The Footage That Might Get Him Deported

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sb5WyFZA70

fuck this retarded cunt

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>>137449193
Thanks for that, anon.

>>137451531
Your initial argument was that both sides are wrong.
Now you are saying that truth doesn't matter.
Maybe you are just intellectually lazy and want to claim superiority without making any effort?

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>>137436903
>being so blatant obvious again

>>137452023
What episode of NCIS is this?

>>137451913
so to combat this the solution is to wear masks and rove around in groups and beat the shit out of people? Seems very counter intuitive.

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>>137452612
If only it were true, anon... if only.

>>137436903
Please, for your own mental hygiene listen to No Agenda podcast. They pick apart these liars and the day to day propaganda we are bombarded with from a neutral and sane perspective. Plus it's entertaining.

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>>137439443
sort of this, with a big caveat: the kikes will shun you no matter what. do not "behave" for the kikes.
do not play by their rules. go your own way.

the solution for this is acts of defiance through non-participation. we know the current path is not sustainable. we know a collapse is coming. do not prop the system up. do not participate or acknowledge left wing fucks. express indifference to them instead of giving them the reaction they want. where possible, casually discard their businesses instead of making a big deal about a boycott or whatever. don't be a bleeding heart.

call their bluff with a smile. make the left eat itself. do not claim to have any principles of your own. put the burden of morality squarely on the left. do not put any real effort in anything towards them and just generally be dismissive.

on this car thing. you don't take a position on either side. just say you don't follow the news in general and you didn't even know this thing happened.

>>137436903
David Duke is a bad guy. Spencer is a bad guy. White supremacy is dumb. Racism, just believing in the existence of races, is pure pseudoscience.

But you're right about everything else.

What you have to understand that the white supremacists and identitarians are a tiny fringe minority of right-wingers. This was supposed to be their big "Unite the Right" rally to prove how popular they really were and...they got a few hundred people to chant Nazi slogans.

On the left, Antifa, anarcho-communists, Neoliberals, black nationalists, and so on used to be a tiny, tiny fringe of left-wingers rarely drawing even 100 people to their protests.

But now they are the mainstream Democrats. Remember the "Obama coalition"? They were not them. They are the seeds of the SJW movement that took root in Obama's second term. They endorse violence against their opponents, preach radical social change by government decree, and denounce their opponents as insane, hatemongering degenerates.

I see a lot of people lately saying they feel they've woken up in an alternate reality. They are not entirely wrong. The SJWs\Democrats hold a radical reinterpretation of history that suits their political aims and in the last two years they've won over a supermajority of news media sources (intentionally, BTW, read the DNC leaks) to overlay reality with their nonsensical interpretation of a constant culture war where everyone who has the temerity to disagree is guilty of microaggressions (if they want to win them over to their side) or outright Naziism (if they see them as a lost cause).

Up is left. Freedom is oppression. Dissent is treason.

Long live Madame Fuhrer. It's her turn. Please do not get me fired. Please do not run me out of my home. Please do not steal my elections.

>>137438790
>I legitimately can't believe someone could fall for such blatant propaganda
look at the likes
look at the comments
look at the people of your own fucking country
when didi you go outside the last time

>>137453057
>No Agenda
I never listened to it but I bet it is not as "no agenda" as they present themselves.
What is their bit on Charlottesville?

>>137451732
Those relationships where you have that unspoken understanding are the best though. You need to strengthen ties with these people.

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>>137436903
>I am a pretty dumb guy

you answered your own question. there's a reason trumpcucks are unemployable shitstains, and it's a lot simpler than "HURR DURR THE WORLD IS OUT TO GET ME"

>>137436903
He is a celebrity, he is paid to do this and say these things, and if he didn't and told the truth instead he would be fired, blacklisted and never work again.
>why would intelligent people fall for this
Why would intelligent people torture innocent people in a study with increasingly painful shocks whilst watching what the effect was on the person? They do because the person the perceive to be the intellectual tells them to, they see Colbert as a reasonable and smart man and so defer to him subconsciously as the authority on these matters.

That is my theory anyway, they do say that smarter people are hypnotised more easily also. That is what this is to an extent mass hypnosis, finetuned by senturies of trial and error and think tanks

>>137452247
>Maybe you are just intellectually lazy and want to claim superiority without making any effort?
Except where once did I claim superiority?
Maybe, as your OP suggests, you can't figure heads from tails and are projecting your insecurity onto me?
Believe it or not, something can be either true or false and also not matter. Did you know that I'm wearing red underpants? Does this matter to you?

>>137453549
That's a good way to make yourself irrelevant.

If their strength lies in herd mentality you have to assume the role of the black sheep. Sorry, that's your lot. Learn to dance around their witch hunts based on their arbitrary moral standard while poking holes in their gaping logic. Still don't be a fanatic, but cast doubt so much so the seed is planted and they can't look to their peers for validation. Be a mind virus

>>137451913

The coat of paint doesn't matter, you gauge a threat based on the actions that they've committed to you recently. If they aren't striking first, then you sure as shit you aren't permitted to strike them.

Do you unironically believe that that they were instituting a totalitarian government and murdering people while circling a confederate statue while holding tiki-torches? Of course you don't, which is why you guys are doing it. It was not enough for you to mock, fire, disown, and beat them like you've done several times beforehand. You want an shit excuse to hurt people. You're not righteous sadistic cretin, fuck off.

>>137449634
>40000
I thought it was 144000

>>137450533
The truth is painful. It is horrible and depressing and makes you want to forget it all, disprove it all somehow and pretend it is wrong.
But it is there, facts, try to forget what you've learnt, you'll be back for more misery and knowledge like the rest of us

The problem is that no matter how much Trump apologizes, etc., it will NEVER be enough for them -- ever.

Every apology and statement will be misconstrued and twisted to be emboldening to whatever he may condemn.

You can't rationalize with someone who won't hear it.

>>137436903
You aren't wrong, the demographic change is real and our response to it is legitimate and moral.
London was 3% non-British in 1961, it was 55% non-British in 2011. What you're watching is the propaganda to silence this response. Civic Nationalism can't work, it leads to ghettoes, conflict. They have to rebrand this as multi-culturalism.
We're the round hole and this is the square peg getting hammered into us.

>>137450930
I have to add that a lot of psychedelics are in the list of schedule 1 drugs and having more than 10 tabs of acid will send you to prison for 20 years in most states. Makes you wonder why the government has such a hard on for psychedelic drugs when heroin junkies get less time in jail.

>>137436903
I kinda feel the same. I'll wait and see.
But Trump is murrica's business. We are drowning in shitskins.

>>137439443
Quality post. The way forward is gradual redpilling by aesthetically pleasing, productive members of society. That's what has been working the best. If you don't realize how vital staying calm, gradually introducing our rhetoric and LEADING BY EXAMPLE is, you are a bigger obstacle to our goals than those we detest. If you really think whites are better, show that we are dumb fucks, no jihad challengers, no explicit 1488 at rallies. Have some fucking for sight and be patient you fucking retards.

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>>137438596
>If we're constantly bickering amongst ourselves and blaming each other for our woes we'll never rise up and expel (((them))) and their lackeys.

This is (((their))) plan. And it's working. The ultimate question is, how do we all get together and understand our common ground (and believe it or not, there is a common ground) and form a united front to fight back? Neither side can win without at least some support from the other. This I guarantee. I was kind of hoping Trump and company would expose the details of the pedophile crimes of the elite, but it looks like that's possibly not going to happen. The only other option is all-out warfare. This would give the right the ultimate advantage, but tens of thousands of people will die. Also, the right would NEED to not only kill a ton of people on the left, but also fight government forces, LEO, Nat Guard etc. then expose the elite crimes (pedophilia, human trafficking, illegal arms trafficking, extortion, murder, etc.) much of which was being done by the left vis-a-vis Hilary Clinton, Obama, etc. and that's a tall order without having extremely good access to the evidence and also access to the means of broadcasting that evidence through media. CLEARLY (((they))) still control that strongly in (((their))) reptilian claws. There is no simple answer, but if Trump does not do the things he said he would do, civil war is a guaranteed outcome. Oh, and to answer the OP question, no it's not possible that the right is incorrect on the issues they have brought up. The left in the U.S. is 100% completely wrong, they are asleep, they are stupid, they are at fault. And if the only thing that will wake them up is a massively powerful violent DEFENSIVE posture, so be it. It's time.

>>137436903
Current year man said people's concerns about refugees entering Europe were overblown. He said that 2 weeks before the Paris attacks (forget which one there's so many). He can go fuck his smug self.

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>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?

Most people don't pay attention to politics the way we do. We'll force all the shit of the world down our throats and digest it, it's almost masochistic.

95% of people live in their own little bubbles. For example, if you don't live in a shithole where niggers or muslims has a direct negative impact on your life, try to stay away from /pol/ for a month. Your views on the world will be a lot more optimistic.

Does that mean your optimistic views are right? Fuck no. Just because you're blocking out the entire outside world and live in your own little bubble does not mean the general state of the world has gotten any better.

Ignorance is bliss.

>>137454489
If you are playing arm chair psychologist then I also will.

You are not willing to put any work into formulating a coherent world view, so instead you awkwardly try to deconstruct the idea of objectivity and truth itself.

>>137453557
>just believing in the existence of races, is pure pseudoscience.
no.
In any country majority brown/black, there are third world conditions, poverty, crime, corruption, mass murder. That is why the white majority must be kept.

>>137436903
>A msm loving European telling americans how to act american.
>correct about anything

>>137442190
People are sensitively dependent to initial conditions.

I first noticed the MSM bias towards Clinton in 2013. I am not some supergenius for it, nor do I normally notice trends so early. But once I noticed it, I was primed to notice further examples.

The trigger for me was some OPB (NPR affiliate) banter on their evening news program. I had recently discussed possible Dem 2016 candidates with a friend. Neither of us like Clinton and I had told him I was greatly relieved she had announced her total retirement from politics, whereas he skeptically said she would likely run again.

The OPB correspondents spoke on the same topic. I do not recall their names, but it was a man and a woman. The man suggested Clinton as the obvious candidate with the easy win. The woman seemed surprised and pointed out her recent retirement. The man said exaggeratedly, "I don't know, we'll see."

I began paying closer attention to NPR coverage and speculation on 2016. Clinton's name came up more and more often as the years passed. Potential rivals were quickly dismissed as no-names.

By mid-2015 it was clear to me that NPR believed they already knew the results of 2016. Occasional guests and dissenting correspondents were mocked more and more brazenly. Implications of "her turn" became routine in every story mentioning Clinton.

By January 2016 it was clear to me that Trump would win. The news had made caricatures of rival Republicans and were clearly talking up Trump's craziest moments to ensure he would be the only GOP candidate with enough name recognition for people to know his policies, which were designed to be crowd pleasers by the 20th Century's most famous flim flam man.

I spoke with my friends and co-workers and family. They were familiar with the headlines. The liberals who did not like Clinton were talking themselves into supporting her as the obvious winner. The conservatives laughed about the silly things Trump tweeted. I read the wind.

>>137455974
At every turn you've tried to make this into a hostile exchange to avoid speaking about what I've said.
I'm done talking to you; languish in your stupidity.

>>137456006
Thanks for the correction, Stormshill. I am glad the god of Joseph Smith made it so convenient to know good from evil in the hearts of men.

>>137440247
tl;dr fuck off shill

>>137451638
Ten commandments = Old Testament/Torah/Judaism
They have nothing to do with Christianity

>>137454498
That's sort of what I mean. You want the left to feel discouraged in everything they do. You need to make it seem like nobody really gives a fuck about them. That's the image you present to them - an "indifference" poker face, even though you're actively undermining them.

>>137436903
Very much so.

Something just doesn't feel right about what is currently considered socially acceptable. It's like they have this noose that they're slowly tightening around civil liberties in the name of social justice.

It's scary and very wrong.

>>137456343
I was adressing your points. I was just disagreeing with them. I said there is not value in being a centrist especially if you have to deny the validity of objective truth to be one while simultaneously claiming that "both sides are wrong" therefore using an objective measure of truth.
So I am saying you, like many other "centrist" did not arrive at this position because you are intellectually superior to members of both sides (which by the way is not projection you can not claim that someone is wrong without feeling smarter or more knowledgeble than them)

I was not hostile to you btw. Sorry if it came off this way.

>>137436903
"Well educated" is codeword for intellectual cowardice, OP.

>>137457967
Some vices err in that they are deficient, in words or action. Some vices err in that excessive. Virtue finds and choose the mean.
>Aristotle
>Nicomachean Ethics

The idea that high IQ people are liberals is clearly false. Trump won all the income groups above $50,000, meaning most people who earn good money voted for Trump.

Liberals dominate the culture because they infiltrated and subverted all our institutions and took advantage of our empathy and softness to push anything "mean" out of the realm of acceptability.

And "mean" of course just means having standards, excluding people who don't meet those standards, having a nation and excluding foreigners from it, not taxing the productive into oblivion to keep the unproductive fat and comfy, protecting our civilization from blacks and other inferior peoples through Jim Crow laws etc.

>>137438790
Unfortunately, we happen to live in what is likely the most evil of possible eras where authority and hierarchy have been reduced to a rubble, leaving many well-meaning people adrift.

"Pride is the vice that opposes humility. In the social sphere, pride is the revolt against hierarchy. It is to revolt against one’s place in society, to not accept a superior over oneself. Even more than that, it is to reach a kind of metaphysical degree of hatred, affirming that superiority and hierarchy per se are bad. Everything should be equal. Egalitarianism is set up as a metaphysical principle.

Sensuality is the vice that opposes temperance. Its social reflex is to counter the rules that govern society – either moral rules or disciplinary norms. Here also there are two layers: in the first layer the person hates the yoke of rules because he cannot do the bad things he wants; in the second deeper layer, he goes further to a metaphysical level of hatred and denies any rule whatsoever. Everything should be free. Liberty is proclaimed as an absolute value.

When someone reaches one of these two metaphysical levels of hatred, or both of them, one can say that he committed the sin of Revolution. That is to say, he committed a particular sin against the Kingdom of Christ on earth, and consciously or unconsciously became an active agent of the Revolution."

http://traditioninaction.org/History/F_001_RCR_ASG.html

We're left to either "ride the tiger" or lose our souls.

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>>137436903
That you even question if you may be on the bad side is something the left(insert other generic name) never does. That should tell you something. People who are right question themselves all the time. Thats how they become right.

>>137440247
I wish nothing but the absolute worst for you and yours.

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>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?
Do you believe it's not?

>>137449694
its not bizarre at all, its very much like 1930's germany.

>>137456560
Amen

>>137438790
You don't believe in the religion of diversity.
You are the heliocentric-believer of our era against the oppressive regime.
But yes, you are right in being skeptical.
You should always question your beliefs, you might even see things from a different standpoint. Don't forget to seek out the more developed arguments for each side instead of relying on your own. People are paid to do this thing.

>>137458571
And yet he was not a centrist and had very well defined vision of an ideal society.
You are again using it as an excuse

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95% of the alt right at charlottesville is represented here

>>137436903
>everybody else
literally who?

>>137462729
lol, why is purifying your water a bad thing? I though melinial hipsters were all about their Brita filters

>>137463762
if you're doing it because the government puts stuff in water to make the frogs gay....

>>137463933
the frogs turning gay because of the chemicals in the water is an actual scientific study.

>>137436903
He did not mention the word communist once.

>>137438790
/pol/ is the ultimate discussion machine. Its opinions come from 10 years of almost literally uninterrupted uncensored arguing. It's ahead of everyone besides it own offshoots, no wonder all media and people who have not experienced it see it as foreign and "evil"

stop muddying the waters of my free speech, filthy nigger jews

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

>>137464401
This. It is actually true, idiot.

>>137436903
Like some anon said it: "those people are not real people, they are missing something important. They are NPC's".
Figuratively speaking....

Fascism is a terrible idea though.

>>137436903
I feel like I'm living in a Kafka novel.

>>137436903
NARTSEES NARTSEES NARTSEES

>>137451709
>MUH WHITE GENOCIDE BECUZ GIRLS ARE CHOOSING NIGGER COCK OVER MY LOSER ASS!
>GAS THE KIKES BECUZ (((THEY))) CONTROL EVERYTHING!
"At least our movement is not based on fear!"

>>137469286
>using a quote from some anon that is rooted in video games
this kind of stupid shit is why nobody will take anything anyone will say here seriously
besides all the larping redditards, anyway

>>137457133
Jesus said to keep the commandments.

>>137436903
We're not wrong, and this is concern shilling.

Is this the best you can do? I hope you don't have a college degree, it indicts all of academia if you do.

>>137472015
Jesus taught the Law of Moses.

The New Covenant did not come into effect until after Jesus died and rose from the dead.

duh.

>>137439318
>ctrl-left
fuck yes somebody is using my meme

One side says the government is full of corrupt politicians and every entirety is now affected by their filthy hands.
The other *intelligent* side is in efforts to provide hormone therapy to their 7 year old trans child.

>>137436903
Please learn history you fool. It is the most normal thing in the world for most people to be wrong about most things and for knowledge to concentrate among those who work at it.

>>137472252
Am I being meme'd? So now I'm free to steal, murder, fornicate, covet, dishonour my parents, and ignore the Day of the Lord? Come one, anon.

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>>137436903
>Sorry if it sounds like concern trolling
shill talking points detected

are you seriously arguing that this idiot, who doesn't write any of his own material, is right?

>>137436903
This fucking guy giving words into Trump's mouth that he never said.

>>137436903
he didn't even mention anything about the events. He was just whining about Trump.

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>>137438790
I know that feel, Deutschbro.
A lot of this comes from the Nihilism that has been so embraced by our society.
It may not even be Propaganda, its just people, with nothing to live for, no ideals, no Morality, no God, no Belief in anything. Nothing matters to them, they think they are so high up, so smart, so intellectual, and yet everything that matters in their lives can be broken down to the most basic of instincts. Money, Drugs, Hedonistic Pleasures and Sex. And these people now point at you and say "Look at you, you still believe in something, you still believe in all these Things, you're so dumb. How dare you strive for the Greatness, the Romance, the Beauty of what used to be us? This isnt us anymore, you fool."
The fact that it disgusts you, the fact that you see through the idocy, the disgusting blindness and arrogance of these people, simply means that you aren't lost yet, that there are still things that Matter to you.
Its not about wether or not we're all wrong, if Trump is wrong, maybe this entire Board is wrong. Maybe our Time has passed. But is that a good thing? Is it a good Thing that the Age of Family, Tradition, all the Beauties that we used to create are over? That this should all be replaced by this hedonistic abyss of Meaninglessness, plastered with the "Art" of Today?
Think about this. Our side wishes to build, to rebuild, our side discusses Philosophy, Shares Aesthetics, Beauty and a Will to strive for a better World, a Spirit that is so foreign to our Nations and these people when we used to be those who held its Flame up the highest.
What do they want? What do they want to build, what is their vision for the future, the colourful world they envision that in reality is as bleak and grey as it gets.
This Board has done nothing to you but to show you what used to be, show you all the beauties, the Spirit, the Will to Fight and the Bravery of your Ancestors. And now that you have felt its touch, you will never believe them again.

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>>137440028

capped

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>>137453549
The urge to follow the herd and behave ourselves and obey the Jews is purely 100% genetic and will only become worse if we don't start sterilizing those people who feel it the strongest.
All normies must be sterilized ASAP.

>>137453557
>reddit spacing
Stopped reading immediately. Eat shit you fucking faggot.

>>137436903

Still waiting on a logical explanation of how the nazi's are wrong/bad...

>>137475346
This was nice bro. Made me feel bittersweet.

Cheers

>>137444076

~ "The Daily Briefing" circa 2017

>>137458939
Good post

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>>137475346
Gut geschrieben.

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>>137436903

> About Trump not disavowing hard enough, about the "terrorist attack"

Trump is experienced in this game.

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>>137436903
This isn't a question of intelligence. Identifying as "anti-racist" is a very safe and advantageous position someone like John Oliver to take. The fact is that even if he were fully redpilled on race, he could never reveal his power level because his show would be cancelled and he'd never again be able to find work in the (((entertainment industry))).

The race is issue is very simple: either you accept ugly truths or pretty lies. To be honest, I understand the human motivation for why leftists have their heads in the sand on race. Society tells us that being a racist is the worst possible thing you can be. For some people, it's better to be a blissfully ignorant, non-racist good guy than someone who understands the harsh truths of the world.

>>137436903
>This current year man video is right now in the trends and as I watch it, I feel like everything he is saying is wrong.

Everything he is saying IS wrong. He is completely ignoring the context and making all kinds of stupid assumptions. Normies are literally intellectually subhuman.

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>>137436903
You step outside the box and see it for what it is ... If you're alone you can go back in the box. If want to have your Cake and eat it too you still have to go back in the box to convince people to join you on your way back out.

Tldr you can't change normie culture from outside of it.

>>137443261
No it's just the concept of not being fed buy a spoon mutually exclusive political ideologies

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>>137436903
Afraid we ourselves are merely pawns.
Only Duginists understand.

>>137451913
Capped

>>137476035
thats not reddit spacing for the most part.

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>>137436903
>John Oliver
>well-meaning

He's a rich white liberal. They're nover well-meaning. They just want to keep power while everyone fights each other. They solve nothing. They reap the benefits of it while the rest of us suffer thinking they're the good guys.

http://observer.com/2017/05/john-oliver-property-tax-scam-trump/

>>137485306
>They're never well-meaning.

Fucking typos, man.

>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?
>believe
Its a fact that we are right. And you can tell because everyone who opposes us refuses to talk about it.

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>>137436903
>But can it actually be?

of course it can you jackass

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>>137436903
>Sorry if it sounds like concern trolling, it really isn't.

>>137445851
Wtf do you hate us brown people for , jessus christ man even after 130 plus years of speaking english getting good jobs and education we still catch shit.
What do we have to do to not be nigs we already fucking intermarried so much that i can pass as white if i shave my hair and stay out of the sun.

>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?
Yes. Welcome to the twilight zone of hell.

>>137440752
It's not about how smart you are, it's about how cautious and how paranoid you can be.
Paranoia isn't bad, it's a natural thing, we have both knowledge and more paranoia to boot, so we question more so. Us on these imageboards (anons) tend to be especially imprevious to bullshit because it happens on a smaller scale in internet drama and we can say whatever we like, if someone thinks something is strange, they will tell you about it: Free flow of information is what makes us more impervious to that garbage, and this is probably why the more jewish and planning garbage tries to prevent our free speech beyond just "Nazi's shouldn't have a voice", they don't want us to spread information.

>>137476035
It's Usenet spacing you millennial newfag.

>>137486813
I'd ask why you blame currently living whites for being responsible for shit that happened over 100 years ago?

Also why don't you single out the Jews, who owned every single slave ship, instead of just broadly painting all whites as your enemy?

This shit goes two ways. Also brown people are many times more likely to take welfare, you don't work you cuck.

>>137486813
Wait upon re reading you guys post this is hilarious.

>so pol is esentially people who cant deal with the inate base of social power structure.
> lol us brown fuckers have been dealing with this shit so long we all know it by age 5 fuck guys really
.
Okay let me lay this out for you shitting on us hispanics nigs and chinks wont do shit for you as we arent the ones in power.
>seriously how many of us spics nigs or chinks do you see at the top of the power structure. Few to none.
> while there are jew bankers they are also an unimportant minority
> we are actually governed by varying groups of self imposed autocrats that can be broken down into a few distinct geo graphic regions in the us which are inately clear based on states economic and political identity ex north east corridor , south east etc.

> also the machine that is our society wont change in a lifetime and cannot actually be destroyed as its too destributed and embeded.
> its a ride we are all stuck in like it or not.

>>137488030
> did i say anything about whites???
I cant hate whites desu im tri racial white is one...
Could make my kid quad racial if i shag an asian..

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>>137466425
Fucking this, mate! They are living in a controlled and censored world. They don't know what we know. We have access to freedom of speech, which we use and respect. We let everyone talk, but do not shy away from telling right from wrong. I pity those who do not enjoy this liberty, even though i merely have it online, a moment of free speech makes your creativity flow unprecedented. It is sometimes bizarre to see how limited the normies are in their way of mind, it is like they are missing the key to truth.

>>137441511
>A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

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>>137436903
In what world is David (kkk) Duke a good guy. And why on earth are you so closely associating Trump with him in that sentence? Th aren't even in the same ballpark.

>>137488413
Sadly you are wrong pol became an echo chamber. Many of the ideas here are flawed and overly simplistic and are nothing but a mental opiod . We frequently see the use of appeals to the past is better which it wasnt unless you look at purchasing power only.

We see blind appeals to race and nationalisim that denies individuals an ablity to prove their own worth through merit, instead favoring broad assumptions based on appearance.

For pol to truely be ahead it must realize that
1) most of us are trapped in the rules of the society in which we are born
2) the revolution that will free every one will never come its a political pipe dream .
3) 99.9 percent of us are serfs of a diffrent name.
4.) race doesnt matter we all are just trying to survive at the end of the day.

>>137488925
Proabbly because for a long time on fourms like the donald white nationalist stoked themselves over trump.
Not to mention a good portion of his base was the alt right which is an out growth of white nationalisim which its self is an out growth of clan ideaology.

>>137436903
>Trump is responsible for not disavowing hard enough
You can't really compare dumb asses throwing rocks and smacking people with sticks to a guy plowing through 20 people and killing 3. One is assault the other murder, when you say they were both equally as bad you really are watering down vehicular manslaughter and trying to make it look not so bad, you're obviously trying to get away with not having to disavow it at all.

>Trump being somehow responsible about instigating "nazi" violence
He's been encouraging violence since day one at his rallies. When your leader is telling you to go fuck up someone's shit, guess what, people will listen. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Really shouldn't be surprised when he rallies for violence and bigotry and then suddenly hate groups increase by 20 times in size - not 5% or 20%, 2000%, that is not a normal fluctuation by any means, it's pretty obvious a leader spreading hate and the massive influx are correlated. That large of a margin didn't even happen when a nigger became president, every possible way Trump is responsible for the increase.

>>137458939
that quote is some major bullshit. The Kingdom of Christ is about holding the human individual in communion with the Holy Spirit as more sacred and important than the state. The whole message of the story of Christ is about what happens when the Spirit of God makes Himself known to the world, and the worldly powers of organized religion and the state attempt to oppose and destroy Him. Any time the message of Christ is co-opted by religious dogma or state power, it has already betrayed its truth and its roots, because Christ's story is all about how those are the very powers which will stop at nothing to subvert and end Christ's ministry. Even though they can never truly succeed - for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, the true King remains enthroned.

Your quote is anti-Christian and anti-American.

>>137471093
Non argument. And your obsession with nigger cock is telling.

>>137489550
I say let those with ears listen! Those who are stupid will never achieve anything. I agree, many are stuck in the past, but we should learn from it so we could move ahead. I'm gonna take a break from /pol. I'm going to instead work hard on establishing my self and get a family, this is what matters now.

>>137489791
Then as the OP stated, I guess he really is a fool.

>a non-answer is an answer in this case
I hate everything. I hate this Brit. I hate these lies. I this this stupidity.

How do we get off this ride?

>>137490649
> self improvement is always worthy.
Pols issue is that its name is tainted with storm front and similar ideaologes scaring off many of more scholarly folks.

always remember the truth never existed all that exists are faiths.

>>137443830
This, if anything, Trump's original wishy washy statement showed me that he's aware that both the extreme left and right are dangerous and insane

>>137449880
>Human rights is an increadibly vague term
They don't exist.

>>137436903

>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?
>Alt-right reveals itself to the public
>Everybody despises you

Kek

>>137436903
repeat a lie long enough and people will believe it eventually

this didn't start last year or the year before it OP

>>137440752
Yes, intelligence is likely correlated, but its also conscientiousness and purity. You recognize that society used to be better, particularly for your personality type. I think all of us here agree we would have excelled more in a pre 1990's west than a post 1990's west, one that emphasized determination, hard work, focus, honor, and masculinity, as opposed to a world that emphasizes opennes, acceptance, sexuality, and creativity. So yes, you are biased. The true heroes are the creative, open, extroverted types who see the same righteous cause/intent that we do.

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>>137438596
The difference the media is liberal

Everywhere I look is liberal, even in the eyes of a centrist.

Snapchat's news section is all liberal outlets. There is NBC, CNN, Buzzfeed, but no Breitbart or FOX

Google/Youtube only shows liberal news sites, unless you specifically google them

Youtube is demonitizing pro right YouTubers

Twitter is avidly anti Trump

Universites are liberal

Well it goes like this. Being smart is not the same thing as being wise. Being wise will let you act on knowledge. It will give you a foundation from which you see things for what they are, either truth or lies, sometimes half truths/lies disguised.

Being smart will make you able to react to stuff in a matter that can serve your own agenda. Whatever that may be. It doesn't give you a foundation of knowledge however.

People who are accepting of the truth eventually becomes accustomed to it. It is living and breathing all around us. It becomes easy to separate the truth from the lies. You have the ability to see into peoples hearts if you want.

>>137436903
>Do you believe it's possible that everybody else is wrong except us?

A certain ((group)) of people control nearly all media and entertainment, they have also influenced school and government. So yea, after generations of brainwashing naturally most people will be brainwashed.

>>137436903
we all know what we all saw these last 20 or so months. the press has time and again been proven to be bias and agenda driven. more people died from overdose than were killed at rallies this weekend yet i see lefties on twitter shilling for a pharma ceo. hypocritical motherfuckers.

>>137439031
>gesunder Menschenverstand

What now?

>John Oliver is paid by the DNC, see Wikileaks.

Seriously? Wow.