https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu rch_attendance#Attendanc

>>137389353
Rural and suburban retards will cling to their beliefs because they have nothing else going on.

There are no rural and suburban retards in mainland Europe.

>>137389550
Yes there are. Wtf are you talking about?

>>137389550
>Yurocucks will never know the feel of owning 100 acres and an armory of high caliber weaponry to defend it
I'd almost feel bad for you guys if you weren't such limp dick spineless nu-males

>>137389587
This is a lie.

>Le Pen: lost
>Hofer: lost
>Wilders: lost
>AfD: polling in the single digits

As evidenced by Trump and Brexit, the rural and suburban retard phenomenon is confined to America and UK.

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>>137389353
The answer is pretty obvious.

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>>137389353
Cut away the atheist Eastern parts and the prot*stant Northern and Western parts of Germany and you'll be on Poland levels.

>>137389767
They still exist. Just because they don't win national elections doesn't mean they aren't there.

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>>137389587
He's talking about Mainland (Frankfurt)

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

We're truly winning

>>137389748
Defend from what? A 54% white rate? A corporate owned Congress? Out of control SJWs? Majority black major cities?

Yeah, good job defending against those. Well done.

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Church is gay.
Christianity is not European.
Church supports open borders.

Less ignorance, more (secular) education.

>>137389912
>complains about christianity
>posts some heretic burgers
What comes next, you talling me that England is Christian?

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>>137389977
>Less ignorance, more (((secular))) education.

>>137389912
look at how smug that obese fatso is lol

>I'm mos defenetely for abolishing them hatreds. mmm-hmm

>>137390059
Isn't gluttony a sin?

>>137389550
k. Melkamu Abdul Azard

>>137389353
protestants blown the fuck out

>>137389912
this

if you consider yourself to be somewhere on the rightwing, no matter if conservative or full blown natsoc, you can't support christianity in europe.
church wants openborders, massimmigration and bends the knew to islam on daily basis.

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>>137390446
>church wants openborders, massimmigration and bends the knew to islam on daily basis
The american church doesn't?

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>>137389353
???

>>137390629
Eastern euros doesn't count. And i said that Maine was more religious than most western european countries. Not all

>>137390446
>if you consider yourself to be somewhere on the rightwing, no matter if conservative or full blown natsoc, you can't support christianity in europe.
These are some wewuzins levels of retardation.

Every family you see with an adopted nigger child is Christian.

>>137389550
You have leftist retards who arrest people for mean comments towards muslims online mehmet. Can't wait for the next trucking.

>>137389353
>No Slovenia
Shame, beautiful country with beautiful woman.

>>137389353
>Italy, Irelans, Poland, Czechia
>More than 30%, no upper limit given
You're shit at building arguments you know that?

>>137389767
>There are no suburban retards
How do you explain Antifa?
I live in a City called Heide (20,821 Souls large)
And the Local Party-street with Pubs, Bars and such is filled with Antifa-Propaganda and it makes me sick to the fucking Stomache to see these disgusting malcontents put their mark on my pretty City.

>>137391250
>Czechia
fucked up, meant Slowakia

>>137389353
The better question is why the US is more religious than comparable Western European countries

>>137389779
I don't get it
Did he mix up Germany and USA here?

>>137389353
Well I'm Proud anyway.
>>137389550
Can't waitcfor you to scream for "the suburban retards" to help when you're about to get beheaded by achmed
Because that's coming sooner than you think with the state pf your pathetic excuse of a country

>>137391003
This is a lie.

Liberalism is the result of political, economic and social enlightenment and, therefore, the exact opposite of rural and suburban retards.

>>137391321
because it never had to suffer from a catholic "statechurch"
lots of people actually left europe for exactly that reason

>>137391273
Antifa is controlled opposition and was formed by false-flagging rural and suburban retards.

>>137390768
>Malta
>Eastern

>>137389550
Pretty sure more than 50% of Germans do not live in cities.

>>137391250
>Italy Ireland
More religious than Maine
>Poland Czechia
Eastern european.

My argument works just fine

I said it was more religious than almost all west european countries. Not all of them

>>137389865
Praise Allah.

>>137391321
That pretty much was the question. I just used the least religious state in the US as an argument for how religious the whole country is

>>137390211
of course, among other things, but nobody is perfect.

It's because of world war 1 and 2.

America hasn't had the bloodshed on their continent and thus hasn't experienced the hopelessness that in turned pushed people away from the church.

combine that with education reforms and boom goodbye religion

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>>137391822
k then
maybe it's because you have so many niggers and spics?

>>137390046
So it is this guy's fault if so many Bangladeshi are landing in Italy.

>>137390446
>if you consider yourself to be somewhere on the rightwing, no matter if conservative or full blown natsoc, you can't support christianity in europe.
Proof that most "right-wing" people don't know what they are talking about.

>>137391321
Because American stats count the Afro-American churches too, the ones where people go play and sing.

>>137392203
lurk moar newfriend

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>>137389798
>Europe has one currency
>Europe has one central bank

>>137389353
Because western European is more logical and rational and does not rely on pathetic delusions for existence. They acknowledge that at the end, everything is meaningless, whereas eastern Europe is less intelligent and has contributed nothing to research.

>>137390446
Chatolic hungarians tried to save your fucking asses and holded the line against the turks you ungrateful mountain jews. You only get your capital besidged once as far as I know.

>>137389353
Because European christians are paulinians, not followers of Jesus Christ.

>>137392861

That's why western Europe is cucked, lol

>>137392861
Yet christian faith is big part of most of Europe's culture ,and culture and haritage that keeps a healthy society functioning.

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>>137389550
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_Christianity_in_civilization

>>137389767
Good meme, but many major urban areas voted to leave like Birmingham, Sheffield and Bradford.

>>137393022
I'd rather take an country with rational propel over one with christkikes. They are the ones bringing down europe, their sandnigger religion isn't welcomed here.

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>>137393045
>"The corpse was provided with a council," details one historian's account, "who wisely remained silent while Pope Stephen raved and screamed his insults at it." The moldering body was then stripped of its sacred vestments, three fingers on its right hand were hacked off and what was left of the corpse was dragged through the streets of Rome and dumped into the Tiber river. Stephen, though, didn't last long; he was strangled to death by his own enemies the following year.

I think what it comes down to is the loss of national identity and patriotism (as part of the push for multiculturalism). If for example being Christian is no longer a defining factor for being "a true German" and your own culture loses more relevance it will become less important to you. Urbanization is certainly also an issue, but that is because cities are overwhelmingly multicultural whereas the rural areas are predominantly mono-ethnic.

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>>137392861
>Modern day Western Europe is logical and rational

>>137393090
You don't know jack shit about European christians. One of the main anti refugee narrative in hungary is that "the refugees are not christian and have a foregin culture".
Faith is just like Nationalism, a necessary evil that holds a big group together. Otherwise you get a bunch of hedonists.

>>137389550
Shariablue fags really aren't even trying anymore

>>137391230
Stop it you, get your own women

>>137389890
How about Mudslimes fucking your daughters?

>>137393909
Already have.

>>137392876
what's your point Janosz?

>>137390446
>bends the knew to islam on daily basis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eftrQOVqZ9g (skip to 1:40)

>>137395903
is that europe? are these people catholic officials?

>>137396111
Nah it's murica, they would have been arrested for hate speech in Europe.
His name is Brother Dean. He's an evangelical and he loves to trigger libs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgk0Hv-eTc

>>137389912
Maybe in the west...
>https://spectator.sme.sk/c/20574479/evangelic-church-dismissed-priest-for-supporting-same-sex-marriages.html

>>137396555
what's your point then?
people can larp as deus vult crusaders 24/7. that doesn't change the fact that the policies of the major church branches are the political enemy

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>>137389912
t. Muhammad the conqueror of london

>>137394109
>Mudslimes

Grow up.

>>137395791
He's trying to say that, if it wasn't for christianity, we(or they) all would be muslims, because they wouldn't save your asses. It's a shame that in so little period of history the entire church tradition in the trash bin thanks to marxists that infiltered and corrupted the church. That's the main reason you see catholics being harassed here, because what today is considered christianity has little more to do with old christianity than the costumes.

>>137396999
Flag checks out

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>>137396789
you confuse the church with the church's officials

Christian people don't praise the Pope/it's official, they praise the Church's teachings/saints

Go be a fedora-tipping faggot elsewhere

I started attending again in winter 2016.
Hopefully I am not the only one.

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>>137396789
He said that you can't support Christianity and be right wing. Supporting Christianity =/= supporting every policy of organized churches.
>policies of the major church branches
That's why I'm non-denominational and a member of a local independent Baptist church. They don't have an organized hierarchy like catholics or protestants do and don't have to submit to any "policies".

>>137397089
>christian people don't praise the pope
>you confuse the church with the church's officials

you really should grab a book and look into something called catholicism and the role of the pope

>>137389550
Your country is literally being taken over by those who so cling, Anon.

White self-hatred is SICK!!

>>137397251
>Baptist

Grow up.

>>137397489

This is a lie.

I don't know why rural and suburban retards consider hyperbole to be a suitable substitute for sound arguments.

>>137397251
>and don't have to submit to any "policies".

except they don't
>>137397374

I've done my catechism you faggot, nowhere did it say to "praise the Pope" before you fall asleep.I pray to God and the holy trinity, not to some guy from Vatican.

Retarded faggots like you believe all catholics are popists(lmao) when they are not, most catholics today don't even subscribe to the current Pope's south-american commie policies.And they don't have to, if you don't agree you just got to ignore him, yes he's either shilling or you could believe the more blue-pilled reasoning which is that he does these things because christianity and catholicism in the west is dying.

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Let's imagine there's a dark power ruling the earth, a malevolent deity, let's call him Yahweh, he woudl have his very own people dedicated to evil, let's call them jews, to whom he would give power and riches so they can rule the Earth.
This malevolent creature would fool people into worshipping him by masquerading behind a religion of light and behind an alleged great prophet, let's call him Jesus.
Let's imagine that this belief buttwrecks bot kikes and christkikes alike, not only does it remove the mask of kikes but it also enrages christians to no end.
Pic related, a christian so butthurt about gnosticism he advocates for murder.

>>137397598
>muh trollz

>>137397721
see
>>137397598

>>137397673
are you part of the catholic church?
if you are and don't think that the pope is your spiritual leader on earth you should probably drop out and pick a denomination that is actually aligned with your attitude.

>>137389912
True. In Sweden the church is always pushing for open borders. Christianity destroyed our culture and made us weak. The christian globalist mentality is so deeply ingrained in us.

>>137397491
Great argument. I can't even tell if you're a butthurt c*tholic or an atheist.

>Bad mouthing Christianity while striving to live in a peaceful country which abides by the Christian moral values.
You niggers need Jesus or at least some basic education.

>>137397877
have a (you)
The last good Pope was PJ2, yes i reckon Francis as the vicar of Christ and i follow his word but that's it.I don't have to literally do whatever he says just because who he is.If he tells me to jump off a cliff i'm not going to.

Go be a shill somewhere else

>>137398000

As a gay lefty Bavarian, I was raised Catholic but I have never really been religious.

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>>137389353
>Why is this the case?

>>137392952
fuck off ahmed

Jesus is the last propeth of islam
and you should follow his order
deal with it

>>137398356
no shilling was done.
at least you admitted that you are just cherrypicking and have issues with church policies.
have a good day

>>137389353
Because god, duh.

>>137389353
learn already:

religion =/= chirstianty

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>>137389353
These krauts and frogs need another spanking

>>137397199
I don't know about Slovakia, but Polish Catholic Church is garbage.

Went to the church for Christmas, wasted one hour on 5 minutes of boring sermon and 55 minutes of repeating rituals.

There is a need for a immediate reform within the Catholic Church if we want to stay relevant in the coming years.

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Why is it so hard for you to accept the truth?
Gnosticism is true, the god you are worshipping is a creature of darkness that aids the jews and gives them earthly power and riches, even tough you're supposed to be the adoptive sons, the jews are still favoured and placed in privileged positions and don't give me the synagogue of satan crap, a god that creates knowingly a being of evil that will surpass him while distributing power and riches is an incompetent.

>>137399223
Yes obviously i have issues with some "policies" but I'm not exactly cherry-picking though, many people and catholics don't change their personal views, traditions & customs just because the Pope told them so.

If Christianity was about policies(political i might add) then many people wouldn't even be christian to begin with.But the fact is that it's not really, christianity is more about promoting free-will and trying to help your neighbour/do good the best you can to your own will, not forcefully doing things like it's some kind of a state you should obey to.(that's why it took off 2000 years ago but that's besides the point)

>>137399727
ignoring the previous crap
> a god that creates knowingly a being of evil
God doesn't create evil.
> a being of evil that will surpass him
That's impossible by deffinition. What are you even talking about?

>>137399979
>God doesn't create evil.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7
You don't even know your bible.

>>137389353
I bet most of that attendance in the UK is to mosques

>>137400103

lmao rekt

>>137400103
"That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the LORD, and there is no other, 7The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these. "
Calamity is not evil.

>>137400272
What is darkness then?

>>137400272
>You: God doesn't create evil
>God: I create evil
>You: You're wrong

Christcucks are so delusional lmao

>>137389353
>Why is this the case?

Grand Orient freemasons infiltrated everywhere

>>137400404
He even quoted a paragraph where god admits to create darkness. Darkness in the biblicall sense is the evil of existence, the forces of darkness, the evil of men and the evil of demons.

He got himself in a worse position.

>>137400343
It is literally darkness, obviously.
>>137400404
That's a miss quote fucktard. It doesn't say evil.

>>137400575
See
>>137400520
You worship a dark god, romania.

>>137400520
>Darkness in the biblicall sense is the evil of existence, the forces of darkness, the evil of men and the evil of demons.
How fucking dumb are you? Did you even read my comment? Darkness in this context is the darkness of night (lack of light). It's pretty clear if you read the previous sentance.

>>137400575
I am very disappointed in you, young man.

>>137400744
>Darkness in this context is the darkness of night (lack of light)
The darkness of night doesn't need to be created, it already exists without any creative act, while god is saying that he creates darkness, it is more profound than that.

>>137400520
[Nerd mode on/]
>And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined.
[/Nerd mode off]
all part of the plan

>>137400648
>That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me.
>The One forming light and creating darkness
How fucking dumb do you have to be to think this means evil? Maybe the catholics were right about forbiding you to read the bible.

>>137392712
We do you non-european swine

>>137400520
A Jewish website had something about that passage. The darkness is things beyond your comprehension thus you can't see it.

>>137400836
No, you'r just making shit. To create obviously means to bring about in this case. It's translated differently in romanian for example, but even this translation is pretty good. You can't really miss interpret it unless you want to. And again you avoid reading things in context.

>>137397019
>marxists that infiltered and corrupted the church. That's the main reason you see catholics being harassed here, because what today is considered christianity has little more to do with old christianity
Sad truth. We need a proppa Pope to unfuck the Church and tell moslems to go fuck their goats, but I suspect that marxists use the same tactics in Church as well and so it'll be hard to fix it...

>>137400896
Why would god be redundant and refer two times to the same event? Are you retarded? Wait, I think you are.
>>137401129
>To create obviously means to bring about in this case
And it is likewise redundant because by establishing a planetary orbit no need to bring it for comes.

The bible is a book about light vs darkness and you want to pretend darkness doesn't have these implications even tough when the KJV is very clear on this respect?

>>137399592
>stay relevant
To think in that way makes you part of the problem.

Churches aren't supposed to change with the times. Repeatedly changing with the times is one reason why so many churches are shit.

Jesus didn't preach about all these rituals. So either the churches changed or they were never good to begin with...

Dear Lord I can't even imagine allowing myself to be in a room with tons of people performing rituals

ITT; Romania throws a hissy fit about the meaning of biblical terms because he doesn't want to argue the point that gnosticism is true.

K retard, try doing a miracle and see if jesus gets behind you.

>>137401443
>Jesus didn't preach about all these rituals.
Oh really, do you even know what jesus preached?

>>137389353
the fact that you can count shitskin Muslims in Latvia and Estonia on one hand but they barely go to church shows that there is no correlation

>>137401278
>it is redundant
>And it is likewise redundant because by establishing a planetary orbit no need to bring it for comes.
You fucking moron. This is not a scientiffic article. It's a form of poetry. The whole text is heavily stialized obviouslly. It's a common technique to express the same idea in different ways, to create a more powerfull effect. You know so little about this but you speak with such certainty, unbelievable.
>The bible is a book about light vs darkness
No, it's not.
>you want to pretend darkness doesn't have these implications even tough when the KJV is very clear on this respect?
Again, reading it in context it's very clear that it refers to lack of light, not evil. Do you know better than the holly church fathers and theologians? Of course not.

>>137401805
>No, it's not.
Whatthefuckamireading

The bible is the tall tale of an angelic rebellion and how you must accept jesus to get saved because of this fallen angels whom populate earth.

>>137401547
> argue the point that gnosticism is true.
So far you've proven to have a very low reading comprehension, no or little knowladge of chirstianity and an immense ego. You are a mental and spiritual infant, how could I even agrue with someone like this?

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>>137389353
i am english and have never been in a church.

>>137402092
See
>>137402019
Is this true or false?

We will talk about ego later, for example about how you want to have a strong ego not to be pwned by shitty archons, but since you're not aware of what is spiritually correct because you're a christian, let's first focus on teaching you what your reliigon preaches, since you don't even know it.

>>137402019
You seem to have ignored the rest of my comment but I can only hope you learned something.
>The bible is the tall tale of an angelic rebellion
That's only briefly mentioned, the bible is not about that. And even so, that's not good vs evil. It's creatures straying from God.
>you must accept jesus to get saved
Sure, but again, that's not good vs evil.
> get saved because of this fallen angels whom populate earth.
wtf?

>>137402342
>the bible is not about that
That's the whole point of the bible.
Angels rebelled.
There will be judgement and they will be destroyed so a saviour is sent so people don't get lost because these angels are fooling and deceiving mankind into improper behaviour that god would have to punish.

If this isn't your only view on christianity then you are not a christian proper.

Because Europeans are sick of dumb religious wars.

>>137402317
So again, you claim to know christianity better than the holy fathers. Have you even read them? Have you read John of Damascus or Saint Maxim the Confessor?
>you're not aware of what is spiritually correct because you're a christian
Not an argument, and gain with the ego. Why do you think you know better than every one else what is spiritually correct?

>>137402532
Because of course he does. Religion makes you think you have some special connection to a God. That's why it's so great at starting wars

>>137402108
probably why they can rip down your cathedrals and replace them with mosques so easily t b h lad

>>137402455
>That's the whole point of the bible. Angels rebelled.
It literally is not. I have no idea where you get this stuff.
>There will be judgement and they will be destroyed so a saviour is sent so people don't get lost because these angels are fooling and deceiving mankind into improper behaviour that god would have to punish.
Not entirely correct. Devils are not responsible for humans straying, they just tempt people. And God doesn't have to punish them, and indeed doesn't. Straying from God is the punishment in itself, since it leads to suffering. God is loving, and doesn't want anyone to suffer.
>If this isn't your only view on christianity then you are not a christian proper.
This shows your ignorance and ego once again.

>>137402655
Another representative non argument from a low iq lefty. Religion doesn't start wars. Look at the mongols or communists or nazis for example.

>>137402532
>Why do you think you know better than every one else what is spiritually correct?
Because I'm saved, God granted me gnosis.

>>137402860
>I have no idea where you get this stuff.

Literally the new testament.

John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires.
1 John 5:19
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

You don't know your religion and you come teach things to those that are already in the good path.

When the christ came two religions started, you picked the wrong one.

>>137403047
Religion has started wars, to suggest otherwise is absurd. Why exactly is it that Shias and Sunnis wanna kill each other? And Protestants and Catholics in the UK? Is it not something to do with religion?

>>137403155
>Because I'm saved, God granted me gnosis.
Not an argument. Not even sure you'' serious with this answer.

The quotes don't proove that the bible is all about fallen angels. Again, i have no idea why you would even think that. The bible is about man's salvation. i don't know why you focus on fallen angels so much.

>You don't know your religion and you come teach things to those that are already in the good path.
Again, what makes you so sure you'r on the good path? Unlike you I have the holy church fathers and saints and martyrs to back me up. You just sound like a total lunatic.

>When the christ came two religions started, you picked the wrong one.
I can see you'r totally deluded.

>>137403528
>Religion has started wars
So?
What is wrong with war?

>>137403629
>The quotes don't proove
Of course not anon, extrabiblical sources is where the bible is at.

>>137389353
Can you compare it with literacy rates?

For example, Scotland has seen the largest decline in religious belief and has a >99% literacy rate while America has an 87% literacy rate. Just think about that for a second, in order to find an illiterate person in Scotland you'd have to sift through hundreds of people while in America it's at least one in every ten people.

>>137403648
I guess the death and destruction part. At some point you realise "wow, why have I devoted my life to destroying my own country for the sake of a religious disagreement?" and rationality ensues.

People, generally, are motivated to avoid loss. When the losses outweigh the gains, things change.

>>137403528
A lot of those are politically motivated. Religion alone is not enough to start wars. Look at the 30 years war for exaple, the French faught on the protestant side despite being catholic.
I'm not actually saying that religion can't cause ruptures and tensions. But you have to think what would there be without christianity (since i'm not defending all religion). And you can see that very clearly (commies, nazis, pagan savages etc.).

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>>137389846
I want this guy for a new Bundesführer

>>137403892
>I guess the death and destruction part.
So?
What is wrong with death and destruction?

>>137403956
>Religion alone is not enough to start wars.

---------------------YAHWEH-------------------------

JEWS vs CHRISTIANS vs MUSLIMS

Ah, the hobbies of dark deities, destruction, war...

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>>137390362
Heretics be purged.

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>>137389550
Kill yourself effective immediately

>>137403710
1.The bible was put together by the orthodox church.
2.I'm not even reffering to extra biblical sources when I say those quotes don't prove. You interpret the bible in you own way, so you don't really follow it, you just tailor your interpretations to fit whatever you already belive. This is the natural outcome of sola scriptura.

>>137403956
I said that religion causes stupid wars. I never said without religion there would be no war, that does not logically follow at all.

>>137404177
I don't follow the bible, the bible is the ramblings of the demiurge.

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>>137390446
"Battle of Vienna was a mistake"
- John III Sobieski

>>137403956
If you spend some time reading the history of Great Britain it will be very clear to you that small disagreements on religious practices, for example marriage and divorce, can cause major destruction. You can't split religion and politics, much of politics is influenced by religious views. Marriage is of course a religious institution that is very much a political issue.

>>137404178
>I said that religion causes stupid wars.
Or maybe you'r just to stupid yourself to understand the ramiffications and complexity of the world. You'r still sugesting that the world would be better without christianity correct? So you must think yourself some geopolitical Nostradamus to make such a bold claim. Despite some tensions and raptures caused by christianity, (not even Orthodox Christianity i might add), it has done a lot more good and united a lot more than it has divided.

>A FUCKING CHRISTIAN has the gall to say to others that they are not spirituals
>a practicioner of the religion of "believing a book" and doing nothing about it.

>>137404277
So what was the fucking point of your last comment then? What's wrong with you?

>>137404486
WTF are you on about. I never said the world would be better without Christianity, that is another one of your straw men. I said Europeans stopped being so religious since they got sick of religious wars.

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Let muslisms consume the heretics. Even pagans are better than protestants, at least they didn't invent liberalism.

>>137404647
The point is that you don't know the fucking bible

>>137392876
Actually, you niggers had been squabbling amongst yourselves and got fucked by the Turks. I think a part of Hungary actually joined them

>>137389353
Religion is in rapid decline in europe, in the UK or national census showed the number of non-religious self identifying in 2001 was about 15%, and 10 years later in 2011 census that had increased to 25%, about 1% per year.

The distribution of this per age is linearly related, so the older you are, the more religious your age group. That means we can predict the continuation of the increase of non-religious easily 60-80 years in the future and it's really bad for religion, it'll be a minority in our lifetimes, possibly as early as 2030 depending on how many atheists are still closeted and don't like to reveal so.

>>137390446
Lol you would be turkic rapebaby for over 300 years now if not for Christianity in europe...

fucking retard

Only people above 55-60 go to church weekly here, and it's mostly women

>countries with the highest ch Rich attendance are the ones with the shittiest economies

Really makes you think

>>137389353

Lol, over 30% attendance in Italy?
Maybe in 1000-people villages.

I haven't been to church in 12 years and neither has any of my friends or family.

>>137389353
I only go to the church at night to smoke some blunts.

At least ive got God's blessing.

>>137404903
I just prooved you wrong, or rather pointed out that the Bible is not about fallen angels. Then you try to back out of it saying you don't even belive in the bible so whatever. And now you'r back at saying I don't know the Bible.
And again, what makes you think you know the correct interpretation. Are you more christian than the Holy Fathers?

>>137405121
>I haven't been to church in 12 years and neither has any of my friends or family.
You know that's not an argument right? Unless your friends and family make up most of the country's population.

>>137405152
No you didn't, you just ignored my quotes and claimed that magical books that aren't the bible are more biblical than the bible itself.

>>137389550
lmao typical fedora cuck

>>137389912
Whelp the SBC just lost a member

>>137405269

I know, but 30% is still way too high.
Unless it's all concentrated in the south, in which case it could be.

>>137389353
>Czech republic has higher attendance than France and Germany
What the hell

>>137390446
Mass imigration and bending to islam wasn't a thing among Christians before Rotschilds became the guardians of papal treasure as Jewish Encyclopedia claimed in 1906

>>137397880
No retard. Christians and Christianity are overwhelmingly considered more conservative and right wing than Paganism/Atheism.
You Swedes are cucked and unsurprisingly you ruined your churches as well

>>137405312
>I'm not even reffering to extra biblical sources when I say those quotes don't prove.
I wasn't reffering to extra biblical sources as mentioned before. Also, as an Orthodox Christian I do belive extra biblical sources are valid (but not more so than the Bible).
And you keep ignoring my question. What makes you think you know the correct interpretation. Are you more christian than the Holy Fathers?

>>137389353
I read the bible (old testament, best testament) but don't go to church. Catholic church = nigger lovers. Protestant church = nigger lovers. Nigger churches = nigger lovers. Independent churches = crazy people.

>>137405518
That depends. Nazis and Neo-Nazis have been into their paganism and traditional European religions. The New Atheists had a big influence on the Alt-Right. Christianity had a much bigger part to play in UK Socialism than Marxism

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>>137389353
Western Europe is soooooo gay.

>>137405461

It's a few percent difference, within the margin on error.

>>137405814
In the US Christianity is primarily a conservative institution. I know it's not always true in Europe.
>Nazi Paganism
Almost every Nazi was a Christian and it was the Protestant voting bloc rallying against degeneracy which put Hitler in power

>>137405737
What about Orthodox

>>137406065
There is no orthodox church in my area.

>>137405958
It's also a terrible graph
The highest measurement is 30% and above which doesnt tell us jack shit

>>137406114
There is one near me but I'm too scared to go for some reason lol

>>137406186
Orthodox churches generally align with ethnicity so it may be hard to start there because it is already a tight knit community, but if you actually go im sure it'll be fine

>>137406186
Kek, why? Just sit in the back for a while, no one will even notice you.

>>137405617
I'm not christian, I'm gnostic.

My experiences give validity to my belief.

>>137389819
Oy, vas fir ayne iberrashunk!

>>137389353
10%-15% Damn I thinked we have less muslims in here

>>137406473
>I'm not christian, I'm gnostic.
I know that, you said so already. But it doesn't answer my question. What make you think you know what christianity is better than even the holy church fathers, considering you'r not even christian. That would be like me telling hindus what they do and don't belive.
>My experiences give validity to my belief.
If this is supposed to be the answer it's incredibly idiotic, even for you. In my experience christianity is true and gnostics are faggots. See? not an argument.

>>137406849
>What make you think you know
Direct experience with God.
>No, that's silly
How is it silly to have direct experience with God as opposed to blindly believing a book?

>>137406049
I agree but the influence of non Christian religious philosophies on National Socialist ideology is worth noting. The Anglican church here is crypto right-wing and generally considered 'posh and old fashioned' rather than politically conservative. There's a large PR machine and training from early public school to teach church leaders how to appear agreeable to all political persuasions.

>>137389550
there are those that respect tradition and those who are mutts

>>137390446
>christianity in europe.
How big is the difference of Christianity in Europe and America?
In America most Christian families are extremely conservative.

>>137406966
>Direct experience with God.
Just because you had some spiritual experience doesn't mean it's God.
>How is it silly to have direct experience with God as opposed to blindly believing a book?
Because you'r not the only one who claimed to have direct experience with God. There are thousands of saints and monks who had spiritual experiences, and to belive that all such experiences are divine is incredibly juvenile and egotistic. The experience of one person, even if that person is myself doesn't mean much. The collective experience of all christian prophets and saints and believers is worth a lot more.

>>137405737
>t. Shlomo van Bergstein

>>137405814
European Christianity is Christianity mixed with Paganism though. Then (((someone))) co-opted it and turned it into first rate cuckery. It's pretty clear the Nazis realised this and the next step was bringing in a new European (or even Germanic) Christianity that also carried Pagan elements. Obviously the war stopped that before it truly got started.
Also

>Christianity had a much bigger part to play in UK Socialism than Marxism

No.

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>>137407379
Who could it be then?

>>137389550
No, our land usted full of cucks and posmodern nu-males

>>137407536
Hard to say without knowing the circumstances. Could be evil spirits or could just be schizophrenia, or you just make shit up from a totally normal event.
Spirits manifesting themselves is not that uncommon at all, take budhism for example.
After all, what make you think God would talk to someone like you? A person with poor reading comprehension and gigantic ego.

>>137407829
>Could be evil spirits or could just be schizophrenia

(My religion is not being true, so you must be crazy and demons must be deluding you)

Even if I'm very skeptic and I've been so insistent on my testing that you have to be retarded to think I'm mistaken?

Take your pills, pls.

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>>137407536
>23 post by this ID
Are you that retarded autistic poster that always make Pagan generals and hardcore selfbump because of the lack of replies?

>>137389353
Shit, no wonder Europe has declined so quickly

>>137389550
>Paki-loving faggot regurgitating leafpasta
KYS paki-lover

>>137399970

Don't lose time with people like that anon.
Your arguments are pretty valid, and I think the same: Christianity is about following the teachings of Christ, the Church is just his "delegate" on Earth. But if the Church does some shit that goes against the teachings of the Gospels, or simply makes up shit that Christ never told, we're not forced to obey.
The Church doesn't have the power to damn to hell someone, only God has that.

People like the other anon are people who probably can't think for themselves, and when they stick with a denomination, for them is a "follow everything or nothing"; their brains don't have space for the various shades of reality. It's a matter of "either I follow ALL of the leader's words without questioning, or I choose another denomination/sect/cult, for I don't know what critical thinking is and I need somebody else to think for me".

>>137408094
>talks about gnosticism
>are you a pagan?

I must talk a lot because I take time to answer to potato retards such as you.

>>137407459
Yes. Socialist thought was developed in the UK in the aftermath of the English Civil War. Eg. The Diggers. Later we had the Chartists, Methodists and Christian Socialists, the Cooperative movement, Robert Owen. Marxism had very little impact in the UK as we already had a well developed Socialist schools of thought.

>>137407979
>My religion is not being true
You have yet to prove or even give evidence of that. All you have is your "mistical" experience, and you'r not the only one to have such experiences, so that doesn't even mean anything. Maybe if you read about it you wouldn't think so highly of yourself.
>you have to be retarded to think I'm mistaken?
If you read my comment carefully, I haven't actually said you'r mistaken. But plenty of people have had mystical experiences, that alone doesn't mean you spoke to God.
>Take your pills, pls.
I should be telling you that. You claim to know the Truth based on some paranormal experience.

>>137401085
Ahem.

>>137389353
Why is italy so degenerate if they still go to church?

>>137404178
Religion doesn't cause wars.
Leaders of countries/organizations/etc. cause wars for political or economic reasons: religion is used as an excuse, to justify the conflict, and to drag ignorant people in the fight.

Saying "we need to fight the people on the other side of the river because they have better resources!" doesn't have the same effect on the population that saying "we must destroy the infidels on the other side of the river, who believe in a false god and are a blasphemy to our faith!".
Less to explain, more to gain.
Bonus: fanatism ensues, granting a kamikaze-like bloodthirst on the battlefield.
That's it, religion is just an excuse. Everybody intelligent enough to read the Gospels would understand that EVERY war is against God's techings.

>>137405443
It probably is.
The statistics take into consideration our country as a whole, and don't consider the deep differences between North and South.
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people going to church would be concentrated in the South, afaik the religious feeling is still strong there.

>>137408525
>You have yet to prove or even give evidence of that.
Do one of the miracles your messiah promised to you. And we'll see.
Other than that and you'll be an instrument of darkness denying the truth.

>>137409365
>Do one of the miracles your messiah promised to you.
I can't I'm not a saint. But there are plenty of saints, and even more testimonies of miracles being performed. And of course many testimonies of people having spiritual experiences that have nothing to do with christianity.
What do you have on the other hand? Can you perform miracles, can you help people through mystical powers? You stand against all thee saints and miracles of christianity, so sure of yourself, based on what?

>italian
>religius
No,only old people go to church here
99% of italy tear apart god vocally every day

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>Czech Republic
>75% atheist/nonreligious
>Germany
>majority "christian"
>has lower church attendance

Jesus christ what fucking cucks

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>>137408299
Thanks for putting what i meant in more concise words, that's about what i wanted to say.
>>137409365
>Do one of the miracles your messiah promised to you. And we'll see.

First of all, all our feelings/experiences are subjective, what you feel/experience may vary to somebody else.Secondly, you're the one who claimed to have experienced your "thing" in the first place, isn't it kind of hypocritical to ask for proof of somebody who hasn't claimed shit?(And by the way, the "proof" it's there,the fact that it's not empirical is probably what bothers you, then again one day you might realise there's no empirical proof about anything, math & abstraction are a different subject)

>>137409900
>I'm not a saint.

You don't need to be a saint, merely a believer.

As I said, you're just an instrument of darkness perpetuating a tradition of darkness, nothing else to see here, really.

>>137410334
No, it isn't hypocritical to ask a christian for a miracle, since their holy book claims they will be able to do them. If the book is true, you will be able to do them, if it isn't, you won't.

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>>137389798
>Europe has one currency
oh really?

>>137410720
What a low iq respone. Again showing your ego and indifference for the truth.
>You don't need to be a saint, merely a believer.
If I was a believer to the degree that I could perform miracles I would be a saint.
And again, the proof is already out there. I can't perform miracles, but many many others can. What about you? Can you perform miracles like the christian saints?

>>137389353
There is an inverse proportionality between degeneracy and religiousness. For example Sweden is the least religious and most degenerate.

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>>137410777
>putting the man who saved europe on your most valuable bank note

based, and nice trips

>>137411247

It's not that clear and definite.
Less religious countries like Sweden (regardless of the multicultural issues) are more prone to admit the limits of human nature, and people admit freely what they are (i.e. homosexuals) without fear of any social stigma.

More religious countries are not less degenerate, their people simply hide their degeneracy; i.e., there are still homosexuals, but they hide it or they marry and have children while continuing to have homosexual intercourse with other males during their marriage (obviously hiding it). It's more a matter of hypocrisy, imho.

where tf is Norway?

>>137411930
oh wait lol

>>137389353
britain has churches? last i heard they were converting them into muslim safe spaces on the behest of their women priests

>>137411247
America is religious on a level of an African shithole also pretty degenerate

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>>137410720
>since their holy book claims they will be able to do them.
Except it doesn't, shill harder.

Read it again while also having at least 2 neurons and also try one or two theology pages while you're at it.

>>137411846
Nope
Firstly how do you know they are not less degenerate if you don't see it?
Secondly, degeneracy is actually public degeneracy
Thirdly: Public degeneracy produces more degeneracy because it legitimizes it

>>137411846
its good to hide the degeneracy. it has always and will always exist but it should not be embraced and encouraged by the mainstream.

>>137389353
>the poorest and most backwards nations have the highest religious attendance

Shocker

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>>137389550
FAGGOT

>>137389912
That must be why the nations that shill the most for open borders (Sweden, Germany, France) have a sub-10% weekly church attendance rate, while Poland, the most anti-refugee country on the continent, has a 30%+ rate. Brilliant logic there.

>>137412683

1) Because I know a lot of people. I have many gay friends, but the majority of them are closet homos, for fear of social stigma. They go to gay pubs, discos, etc., and they have known a lot of other men who are married with children.
2) If by "degeneracy" you mean "public degeneracy", then you're right. If you mean "true existing degeneracy", then you're not.
3) Bullshit. Legitimizing something doesn't encourage that behaviour: it simply encourages people to come out from the darkness and living like human beings. Staying in the homo example: I highly doubt that a straight male, by seeing a Gay Pride Parade, will think "Hmmm... so many faggots... I have always wondered how cock tastes like".

>>137412768
Hiding people differences is never a good idea. And even if those are REAL problems, hiding them is never a good option. Problems need to be addressed. To remain in the homo narrative: think of a young man who's a homo because he's been abused. What's better for him? To keep everything hidden, or to make him come out of the closet, so he can live freely as a homo, and see that in the end he doesn't fit in the homo narrative, so he can recognize his problem and seek help?

>>137414049
>Legitimizing something doesn't encourage that behaviour
It literally does.
> it simply encourages people to come out from the darkness and living like human beings
Being a sodomite is not living like a human being.
>I highly doubt that a straight male, by seeing a Gay Pride Parade, will think "Hmmm... so many faggots... I have always wondered how cock tastes like".
No, but it's discgusting and vulgar first of all, and some people who might have gay tendencies will be encouraged to pursue them.
>And even if those are REAL problems, hiding them is never a good option.
No, but looking at a problem and saying, well that's not a problem at all is even worse.
> think of a young man who's a homo because he's been abused. What's better for him? To keep everything hidden, or to make him come out of the closet, so he can live freely as a homo,
To keep everything hidden obviously, and even better to try to ignore the gay tendencies and have a normal life.
> and see that in the end he doesn't fit in the homo narrative, so he can recognize his problem and seek help?
Well, a lot of sodomites don't do that obviously, and even if they did, it's still worse than not sinning in the first place.