Pray the Rosary. In "The Secret of the Rosary" by

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My aim in starting this thread is not to start a Catholic vs Protestant vs Orthodox free for all... Though I know that's what it will most likely result in. My aim is to share one of the most powerful prayers on the planet that has the potential to reshape lives.

Please, let us refrain from profitless name calling and insults. Let's keep the debating fruitful and good spirited.

To any atheists/non-believers please ask any questions you have about The ancient faith.

God bless all who contribute

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Pray for us Saint Joseph

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You know this shit is all fairtales right

You know this shit is all fairytales to make old women less scared of dying right

>>137325303
replied to himself? check

>>137325508
double the post double the TRUTH

double the post double the truth you leafy fuck

>>137325879

Thank you for the bumps

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>>137322893
Put faith in a hippie jew? Give me the norse gods or the olympians instead. Abrahamic religions are for weakling slaves and belong to the desert.

>>137326206

Christianity is awesome, Christ is the true saviour of mankind, there is none other

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Catholicism is the only way forward out of the mess we're in. There is no going back. Only forward with a new evangelization, a REAL new evangelization, not the phony nonsense that sounds pleasing to the godless worldling's ears.
Catholicism is the only institution that has kept the Jews in check, and maintained the borders of the West in the face of Muslim/Ottoman aggression.

If we are to keep our way of life it will be by clinging to the religion that founded it.

Queen of heaven, blessed mother of God, pray for us.

>>137327072

God bless you

Actual Protestant here. The reason I don't pray the rosary or to any saints is because they're not Christ. Only Jesus is the intercessor between man and God. Praying to dead humans is a distraction from venerating the divine.

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Sancta Maria mater Dei
Ora pro nobis pecatoribus

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>>137327072
Amen brother.

I was raised protestant and recently started to attend mass after studying a lot about the Catholic Church. Threads like these are why I keep coming back here.

>>137326206
Christ was the first man to name the jew

>>137330899
maybe you should study a little more
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF170B126002E7CB0

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>>137322893
Bump
>>137326206
Oh hey, it's that autistic toothpaste that's been going around in every religious thread

>>137329602
Can someone explain this for me too? My gf believes this too and I don't know how to explain it to her.

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>>137322893
What if I'm not baptized?

>>137323012
>my aim is to share rosary prayer
>doesn't share it

>>137332606
That's a weak facial

>>137330899
read G.K.Chesterton, we have translations in portuguese

>>137332371
What's bad about praying to Christ?

>>137326206
>>137326206
Tell me how Loki took that horsecum all in like the cuck god he is.

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>>137331958

What if God is actually so humble that his enemies raise up temples in his honor to demoralize him?

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>>137331255
checked hard

>>137333072
I mean praying to people other than Christ such as Mary or saints.

>>137333252
That's not how it works, we never claimed it worked this way.

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>>137331255
The first ones to fight the Jews were the white Pharaohs, damnit. Ramses II chased off the Jews from sucking the blood of Nile goyim. Next is the white Phillistine refugees.

Calling Christianity a Jewish religion means exactly that. That Jesus was an ethnic Jew and the first Christians were all Jews. Christianity, Judaism and Islam are called Abrahamic religion for a reason. They are semitic, not European.

>>137333585
But why not just pray to Christ and not the dead humans? Will Christ not hear your prayer without extra convincing from mary or peter? Is say saint peter or mary more powerful than Christ regarding prayer so you ignore Christ?
t.Baptist struggling to understand your seemingly unbiblical ways

>>137322893
>>137323012
>>137330821
The sun discs around their heads is a sign mark of the Roman Sun God. Pagan.

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>>137322893
Go be a nigger lover somewhere else.

>>137334610
Catholics and orthodox do not follow sola scriptura. Besides, it isn't just that. You ask living people to pray for you, flawed human beings to do so. Why not ask for prayers from the closest to perfect humans there ever was?

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>>137333196

>>137330899
If you only come around for shitposting threads you should leave. You newfags aren't welcome.

>>137335134
Nice cross on your flag there.

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>>137327054

>>137335134
The are halos, artists interpretations of a holy person or saint. Stop using artist rendition as theological arguments against older strains of chrisitianity.

>>137335263
How very mature

>>137335438
>hurr durr skin worshipper
>we all de same to God

>>137335362
Yes. The cross of the zodiac. Wonder why Christians use it. It's very pagan.

>>137322893
Thanks OP, this is a great thread. Would you mind sharing the actual prayer, word-for-word?

>>137335184
Paul mentions intercessional prayer to the living a bunch, the dead ppl thing, never mentioned. Just would rather pray to Christ.

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>>137334610
Brother, look at The Gospel of St. John 2:1-12.

Christ referred to His mother as Woman, which to an Israelite would've been a blatant act of disrespect, but Christ was actually referring to her as the Woman from Genesis who would crush the serpent's head. He tells her, "my time has not yet come" but she proceeds any way telling the wedding attendants to "do whatever He says", and Christ in turn performs His first miracle before, according to Him, His time had yet come. Mary interceded at the wedding of Cana on behalf of those who had faith that her son could perform miracles.

>>137335846
They aren't dead if they're in the grace of the Lord.

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>>137335683
>loki
>horsecum

Wow! A very mature Christ Cuck.

>>137335787
geez you sound angry at history and your dad.

>>137335787
>zodiac
keked

>>137336030
the supremacy of christianity over all pagan religions on the west for the last 1000 years shows how much modern-day pagan larpers are cucks.
The God of Christianity is immortal and omnipotent, not some arrogant bitchy-ass pseudo deity that will die someday.

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>>137335787
When your christ cuck father says merry christmas .jpg

Fact - Most of the good things about ((( christianity ))) are Pagan. Stay strong.

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>>137335599
Yes, You are right. Halo.

>>137336734
How can I stay strong worshipping gods from a religion that has been dead for a thousand years?

>>137322893
Thank you, God bless

>>137336864
Halos in photography are also from any source of light strong enough, those being on a saint's head do not indicate a sun deity.

>>137336948
Well i guess i must stop listening to Paganini because he's been dead for years, Kanye is the best fuck my culture!

>>137336028
You dont know if they are. Assume for a second you pray to a non-heaven dead person, what are you doing?

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>>137335795
The rosary consists of several prayers, as well as specific meditations.

Here are the prayers word-for-word.

>The Apostle's Creed
>I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into hell; the third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.

>The Lord's Prayer
>Our Father, Who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name; Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.

>The Hail Mary
>Hail Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen.

>The Glory Be
>Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

>The Hail Holy Queen
>Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, hail, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve: to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this vale of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus, O merciful, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary! Amen.

1/2

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>>137336692
>Pagan larpers

Deus Vault LARPER calls legitimate Pagans, larpers lol. ready to fight another jewish war in the middle east?

I'm serious about my beliefs. Paganismis not just some religion, it's about blood. Comparing it to other religions doesn't make sense because it is more about honoring your ancestors, not based on a book like the monotheist religions are.

It's about sending a message to the public more then mysticism, in a way it's more practical than spiritualism. How do you get the public to care about their race,you instill those values from a young age just as a religion does.

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>The Fatima Prayer
>Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, hail, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve: to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this vale of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus, O merciful, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary! Amen.

>Closing Prayer
>O God, whose only begotten Son, by His life, death, and resurrection, has purchased for us the rewards of eternal life. Grant, we beseech Thee, that by meditating on these mysteries of the most holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.
Pour forth we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts, that we to whom the incarnation of Christ, Thy Son, was made known by the message of an angel, may by His passion and cross be brought to the glory of His resurrection, through the same Christ Our Lord. Amen.

2/2

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>>137337331
Stupid cuck. none of your family for many generations have been pagan. You're a larper, get over it. As a Catholic I link myself to my parents, grandparents, great grandparents, and so on. You on the other have the internet, and other Jewish crap.

>>137337292
Consuming art isn't the same as larping

>>137337155
Dont bother, he will find excuse for everything. He even memed him self about cross on his flag. Ignoring the fact that the story goes, danish fight estonian pagans and god throws the flag with the cross from the sky to boost morality, ofc its just a legend but still. Even his idol varg wants it removed.

>>137337653
Then stop larping as a jew and start consuming your race's real culture

>>137337310
They probably are. Most of them are martyrs and wisemen, the process to consider someone a saint often takes decades or even centuries until every nook and crannie is found about the life of said person.

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>>137337627
Then stop using said jewish crap and fuck off from the internet?

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A 54-Day Rosary Novena for our Nation, America, will begin on Tuesday, August 15. All are welcome to join!

https://www.novenaforournation.com/

https://www.romancatholicman.com/the-miraculous-54-day-rosary-novena/

http://holyleague.com/what-is-the-holy-league/

>>137337865
Christianity is so jewish the second pope was a roman convert and all the others weren't jewish in ascendency.
And my race's "real culture" started in a crusade to remove arabs from the Iberian peninsulae under the christian reconquista.

>>137336734
>Fact - Most of the good things about ((( christianity ))) are Pagan. Stay strong.

They actually aren't. Stay mad Pagans. Halloween, Christmas and Easter were all Christian holidays and the festivals were retro actively compared to Pagan rituals which were propagandized to fit an anti-Catholic bias. Take this classic example.

>Easter was a festival for a fertility Goddess that's why eggs are eaten at Easter

In reality eggs are eaten at Easter because Eggs were preserved through the Lenten season in which no eggs, meat or dairy were consumed.

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>>137322893
>pray vain repetitions
Fuck off Cuckolick fag

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Ignore the retarded toothpaste poster, my friends. Post more glorious Angels instead.

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>>137335795
http://www.themostholyrosary.com/index.htm

>>137322893
pray for the forgiveness of sins before every prayer
pray the rosary
pray for Archangel to banish evil in the world
and pray for the presence of the holy spirit
and the conversion of non believers especially sjw's, general lefties, pagans, muslims and atheists

>>137337155
Christianity and Rome Paganism are very mixed upp. Mind that Constantine the Great had the last word in many questions regarding the orthodoxy of christianity. And during his time as Emperor, Sol Invictus was the highest god in Rome.

>>137338454
>Mind that Constantine the Great had the last word in many questions regarding the orthodoxy of christianity.

No he didn't.

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>>137337968
You're a traitor to your people. I'm on the internet to fight spineless golem like yourself.

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>>137338400

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>>137336030

>>137325245
go away goytheist

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Rosary is blasphemy from the Hindus.

>>137322893

>the rosary is the ultimate prayer
>if you pray the Holy Rosary devoutly every day until death for the purpose of knowing the truth and obtaining contrition and forgiveness for your sins

What kind of bullshit is this? If you're damned or sinful, all you need is Christ. That's it. You don't need to channel your prayer through some beads to reach him because it's fucking Christ.

>>137337313
>>137337378

Thank you very much OP. God bless you. You should provide these prayers, word-for-word, in the OP next time! Plenty of hungry souls like me out there.

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>>137338404
>pray demonic prayers to drive away demons
Hmmmm

>>137338362
>>pray vain repetitions
Refers to praying like Pagans do, Jesus explains that God the Father already knows what you are praying even before you pray it, what is understood is the intention of your prayer not how beautiful, long or grammatically correct it is.

A problem with this is how KJV is translated, this is the same passage from the Douay Rheims.

"And when you are praying, speak not much, as the heathens. For they think that in their much speaking they may be heard."

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>>137338880
this

Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

>believing a human is the mother of God

it's almost like you don't know how to monotheism

>>137339069
It's almost like you haven't even bothered to read any Christology.

what is the fucking prayer you asshole??

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>>137338910
Thanks, and you're welcome. Though I screwed up the Fatima prayer and copied the Hail Holy Queen instead.

>The Fatima Prayer
>Oh My Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy.

>>137339008
>he said no vain repetitions but what he really meant was make it a good prayer
He fucking gets it. You did need to pray hail mary 50 fucking times. And some of you fags do the rosary 3 times at once that's 150 fucking hail mary's.

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>>137339008
Christ repeated His prayer three times in the Garden of Gethsemane. Wouldn't you say His Father heard Him the first time, Protestant?

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>>137338554
>do as i say or you are spineless
What's up with christianity and amerimutts and mystery flags on /pol/?

>>137339061
Romans 2:6-16: For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality. All who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

Sola Fide is heresy.

>>137339506
***Hit the wrong user quote***
meant to reply to:>>137338362

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>>137336734
Christianity is pagan like how America is Native American. We conquered your religion, absorbed what was good (Semina Verbi), spat out what was bad - human sacrifice, homosex, etc. Saying 'lol you're using muh holidays' is like a Native looking at Manhattan saying 'lol that's nice but it's built on my land'

>>137338880
i don't get the christ thing. isn't christ just like any of us, just that he was god incarnate? That means don't you need to pray to god, which is what jesus prayed to? Why the hell would i pray to jesus?

>>137338880
>>137339061
Most Protestants don't know what the Rosary even consists of and make judgement. Despite what you believe it is not solely prayers toward Mary for intercession.

http://www.dummies.com/religion/christianity/catholicism/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

>>137339702
Verse?

And there's a difference between 3 and 50.

>>137336030
Pagans are just a degenerated form of animist, come on now. The second polytheism was introduced into the original principals of matter and spirit, we shaped gods in our image and began a tumble into egoism.

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>>137339540
You're spineless Jew-owned Golem because you betray your ancestors and the God of your people, not because of anything I say.

>>137338525
He called the First Council of Nicaea in 325 and decided between Arianism and Homoousianism.

>>137339297
http://www.dummies.com/religion/christianity/catholicism/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

>>137339837
Also Jesus isn't a regular person.

>>137339506
Nothing wrong with repeating prayers.

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>>137339837
>there's a difference between 3 and 50.

Oh yeah?? Provide Scriptural evidence for this difference, please.

>>137340012
I know, I later explained that quoting you was an accident.

>>137339352
>>he said no vain repetitions but what he really meant was make it a good prayer

Well that's the thing, only KJV and Protestant translations which like KJV translate that passage that way. So no the original Vulgate from which the KJV was translated (incorrectly in this instance) did not say that it instead is correctly translated in the Doay Rheims which I posted. Which I noticed you didn't argue against...

>>137339825
Because Jesus is God

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>>137340032
>There's no difference between 3 of something and 50
Are you a fucking retard?

If you lost $3 you probably wouldn't care but if it was $50 you would.

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>>137340336
>For they think that in their much speaking they may be heard."
That's the same thing you retard.

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>>137340546
>Protestant
>Equate dollars to prayers.

Can you guys get any more Jewish??

>>137340714
Nope.

>>137340495
jesus is god yes, i can understand that, but he is god incarnate. Meaning, praying to jesus is like praying to a dead body somewhere. You're praying to god, which incarnated in jesus. jesus was just a man. it's like if life was a video game, the creator takes control of a character in the game and then dies. the character is just like anyone else

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>>137340831

>>137340495
Nah. just a Jewish rabbi that others used as a tool in politics.

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>>137340714
So you condemn Christ's thrice repeated prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane?

The narcissistic hypocrisy of Protestants never ceases to amaze.

>>137340831
Okay if someone told you something 3 times you probably wouldn't get annoyed bit if it was 50 I bet you would.

>>137339884
God of my people? You DO realise that Poland was always a bastion of religious freedom? All those ebil russians and germans were extremely strict about this shit. Learn your history or shut up retard.

>>137322893

You should like a Calabrian grandmother.

>>137340986
>Jesus
>rabbi

>>137340977
But Jesus was resurrected bodily and then ascended into heaven bodily. Jesus has the nature of God, the body of a man and the spirit of a man. He is part of the trinity, 3 persons one God. And you don't have to just pray to God the Father for that reason.

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>>137340850
He's talking about people repeating prayers many times because they think they will be geared more the more they do it. Are actually a retard?

>>137341091
God is suposed to be timeless and all knowing. He already heard your prayer in all possible ways infinite amount of times before you were even born. Saying it at all would be a waste of time, wouldn't it?

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>>137341027
Can you show me the verse? And like I said there's a big difference between saying a prayer 3 times and 50 times.

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>>137341110
Shut up. I have no time for ancestor hating, Jew dominated, golem, such as yourself.
Begone, rabbinical Satan.

>>137341259
No what he is talking about in reference to "how the heathens (or pagans) pray" is an endlessly rambling prayer. Pagans believed that the Gods were indifferent to human beings and they had to be pleased in order to do things for men. Jesus is telling people that the true God does not need flattery, that you don't have to endlessly babble to impress God, that he knows what your intentions are.

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>>137339781
You didn't conquer shit christ fuck. I'm still well - alive, ready to burn church in my neighborhood which already has settled 75 k immigrants, all from Africa or the ME and ready to kick some christfags ass.

Paganism is ethnic religion while Christianity is an Abrahamic religion that promotes race mixing (pic related).

Christianity is the exact opposite of Paganism, it literally started as a sect of Jews for the goyim to follow.

FYI. Paganism is homophobic (checkout: "Tacitus Germania on Pagan German Morals")
Dutch till the day I die
Where there's Black there's Crime.

Separate when you can, Interact when you must
Ignorance is Slavery.

Just another Diversity malfunction
#Pagan forever.

>>137341140
Yeah. Rabbi is wht Jews call their priests.

>>137332606
Get baptized bro.

Also, baptism of desire.

>>137339825

God is constantly trying to destroy us, through cosmic rays, aliens, evil people, weak people, lies, confusion... in short all of the forces of chaos. Jesus is our Lord who defends mankind from the universe, and against the accusations of the Father.

>>137341316
Hail Mary is toward Mary not God.

And what you just commented is the reason why he doesn't want you to say it over and over again because it's pointless.

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>>137326206
pt 2 no greenberg here

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>>137341461
>anderson fanboy
SO BASED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E34Oxc-lP6U

>>137341537
>you don't have to endlessly babble to impress God,
Which is what you do

>pagan
so Catholics.

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>>137341647
I didn't know Gnostics still existed.

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>>137341486
Your argument basically. Lol, what a dumb christfag.

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>>137341772
Your race doesn't matter to Christ(Galatians 3:28)
also pic

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>>137341756
>>137341715
Christians are hardly free of dick-obsession. And hey, didn't some gnostic sects saw semen as a form of sacrament?

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>>137341461
>KJV
>Based on 16th century Rabbinical Masoretic texts
>Commisioned by the notorious and openly sodomitic King James to compete with the Douay Rheims translation
>Hasn't read The Gospel of St. Mathew 26: 42-22

>Again the second time, he went and prayed, saying: My Father, if this chalice may not pass away, but I must drink it, thy will be done.
>43 And he cometh again and findeth them sleeping: for their eyes were heavy.
>44 And leaving them, he went again: and he prayed the third time, saying the selfsame word.

>Just your typical, hypocrisy blinded Protestant

>>137332371

The saints are in heaven, alive in Christ. They can hear our prayers and intercede for us, as clearly taught in the Book of Revelation in particular.

See: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/praying-to-the-saints

And: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-intercession-of-the-saints

Both of which explain why prayer to saints is consistent with the Bible, and the teachings of the early Church.

This video provides an *excellent* explanation of the Catholic doctrine of prayer to saints. I wish it were a bit shorter, but it presents the Catholic view with great clarity, and soundly rebuts every Protestant objection you can think of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCqHLPX2MDA&t

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Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.Give us this day our daily bread.And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

>>137341857
Your church is an amputated arm from catholicism and here you are talking about paganism and catholicism. We are christian and will always be christian.

>>137341876
it's the secret to eternal life, mankind is always on trial before the Most High and Christ's constant striving against the wrath of God is mankind's most powerful defense.

>>137341857
Repeating prayers =/= endlessly babble

This is done as a devotional practice. So when you devote yourself to say praying the Rosary God knows why you are doing this. The problem you are having understanding is the difference between the devotional prayers of Christians and the prayers Pagans offered for divine favours. Devotion is a way of developing your prayer life, showing love to God and developing your faith. The Pagan prayers Jesus is talking about were about impressing the Gods in order that they may listen to them. Jesus corrects them saying that God listens to all prayers, he loves all peoples and he understands your reasons for praying.

>>137336864
>hai gaiz i came here to shit this thred up and tell you hard everything that i think i know that i don't

>>137339561
Then why Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

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>>137342061
It seems like he did 3 times at sifferent points not 3 times at once like how catholics do 10 hail mary's in a row then 40 more later

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>>137342050
Gnostics are satanists, if you ever read Against Heresies by St. Irenaeus

>>137341772
What's the issue? Why superimpose a holyjew movie? Why cant arizona mixed people marry?

>>137342032
>Your race doesn't matter to Christ
Of course it doesn't. If it did christians wouldn't flood west with BASED shitskins.

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>>137342179
I think Baptists techinically aren't protestant since they want nothing to do with the catholic church

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>>137342050

>>137322893
Keep your whore, her precious beads, and your assembly of Saints oh child of the false Sun

>>137342255
Yes, you are saved by faith, not denying that. Just not saved by faith alone

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>>137342360
>LOL!
>These mental gymnastics

I see you've learned how to polish the shaft quite well, Protestant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs

>>137342246
Bwsides you say it 50 fucking times. If you said it once a day or maybe in the morning and night then i wouldn't say it's vain repetitions but 50 times in one long prayer diffenently is

>>137342248
>shit this thred up
Stop the salt it's /pol

>>137342361
Well, they still considered themselves christians and followed some form of christian scripture. If you judge all pagans on what some grup of pagans possibly did, i'm free to judge all christians based on what one grup of christians did.
>>137342384
Nothing. Blacks are BASED and i wish your kids to marry black christians and that they will have many, MANY beautiful brown babies! Amen!

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>>137342516
Banned in Torah and in Catholic law. Origen tried it once and was condemned for it universally, that was like in the 100s or 200s.

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>>137341556
Yeah yeah same old shit

>I'm gonna attack some christcucks!
Go ahead faggot, I'm probably more against them than you'll ever be. Tolerance is not a Christian virtue, they use that verse in the same way pagan fags use the Havamal to support immigration

>bagans were not gay, muh Tacitus
https://norskk.com/talk/2015/7/21/homosexuality-in-asatru

>>137342393
You gov't is doing that.

>>137342506
They are still dissidents from protestant sects of christianity, they still use the bible compiled by catholic bishops.

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>>137342361
Satan's gonna come and get you christcuck. You better hide your ass in your pozzed church and bend your knees to dead kike on a stick.

HAIL ADOLF HITLER :DDDDDDDD

>>137342778
Matthew 19:12
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

>>137339895
Constantine brought the council together under the request of Bishop Hosius of Cordoba after he had convened a Synod to discuss the Arian problem. A Synod is a local type of council, the need for a general council in the Church to deal with the geographical vastness of the Arian heresy. Constatine made the council happen, the Clergy did what they do at every council, debate until a decision was made and Constantine watched. Constantine was despite what you may have heard an extremely devout and intellectually minded Christian and that's why he was interested in attending the council. It is true he was not baptized until the hour of his death but this was actually a common practice in those days for people who didn't want to or felt like they couldn't live up to Christian morality.

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>>137342393
Actually it's atheists that pish it the most boy

>>137342050
Gnostics aren't Christian, bit a movement that tried to co-opt it.

And the Church burnt their writings and them at the stake for their weird shit.

>>137335134
They symbolize the presence of the Holy Spirit within the subjects of the painting.

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>>137342764
KEK
But Polycarp also was not only instructed by apostles, and conversed with many who had seen Christ, but was also, by apostles in Asia, appointed bishop of the Church in Smyrna, whom I also saw in my early youth, for he tarried [on earth] a very long time, and, when a very old man, gloriously and most nobly suffering martyrdom, departed this life, having always taught the things which he had learned from the apostles, and which the Church has handed down, and which alone are true. To these things all the Asiatic Churches testify, as do also those men who have succeeded Polycarp down to the present time,— a man who was of much greater weight, and a more steadfast witness of truth, than Valentinus, and Marcion, and the rest of the heretics. He it was who, coming to Rome in the time of Anicetus caused many to turn away from the aforesaid heretics to the Church of God, proclaiming that he had received this one and sole truth from the apostles—that, namely, which is handed down by the Church. There are also those who heard from him that John, the disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus within, rushed out of the bath-house without bathing, exclaiming, "Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, because Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth, is within." And Polycarp himself replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion, and said, "Do you know me?" "I do know you, the first-born of Satan."

Apolte John and his favorite Disciple Polykarp calling Gnostics satanists.

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>>137342910
To be fair, the use a desecrated Catholic Bible, rendered kosher by Jewish Rabbis, and commissioned by a notorious faggot.

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>>137342910
>catholic
orthodox*

>>137342663
Every true faith flowers and bears fruit, but it's not the works that saves you. As you are judged by God on that day, no man will have enough works, but only your faith washes those sins away.

>>137343020
Well, somehow atheist czechia isn't flooded with muslims while catholic italy and germany ruled by a party with "christian" in name and daughter of a pastor are.

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>>137343146
>salty his church got fucked in the ass by just a poece of paper

>>137339352
this right here is correct, but without all the hatefulness or whatever

>>137343135
Proddies call catholics satanists. Does that make catholics not christian?

>>137342206
>it's the secret to eternal life, mankind is always on trial before the Most High and Christ's constant striving against the wrath of God is mankind's most powerful defense.

Yeah yeah yeah, this shit was all made up post second century and washed off and integrated by Mani. This heresy is old and you are a larping faggot. You literally have no argument,

>>137342393
>If it did christians wouldn't flood west with BASED shitskins.
Implying Christians are behind this.

>>137342764
I realize you arent even Christian, but what passage says to deny them atheist ?

>>137343414
>his shit was all made up post second century
So it's older than most catholic doctrine?

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>>137342663
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

"saved through faith" well it looks like you don't have to do any works. "gift of God" you don't work for gifts you just accept them otherwise it isn't a gift. "not of works" well that's pretty clear you don't need to do works. "lest anyman should boast" just like the guys in
Matthew 7:21-23
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.(see John 6:38-40 for the Father's will)
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
It looks like those people were boastimg and relying on their works "done many wonderful works" AND they had faith "in thy name". But Jesus still told them to fuck off.
Looks like relying on your works like orthodox and catholics do has you NOT enter Heaven

>>137343398
Do Proddies say the Serpent was really the good guy?

Gnostics did, and why they pissed off the Church.

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>>137343254
Yes Sweden is such a great white traditionalist country

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Don't forget!! 54-Day Rosary Novena for America starts this Tuesday. God Bless.

See >>137338130

>>137322893
For some reason carrying around a little jesus christ on a cross seems kind of heretic to me.

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>>137343374
Meh. At least I'm not claiming the desecrated, Kosher, "bible" commissioned by an open faggot, to be the "word of god".

>>137343526
Well, who then, mr. memeflag?
>>137343546
Of course i'm not. And i won't show you a passage that denies race-mixing. After all christianity is a religion of racemixers. Have a nice day and many brown grandchildren!

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>>137343398
Apostle John did not call Roman Catholics satanists, and Saint Irenaeus was Polykarps favorite disciple the one who recorded the incident

>>137343398
These are atheist trolls just like the ones pretending to be catholic itt.

>>137343564
There is a massive difference between writing an alternate history of the life of Jesus in which all the apostles except Judas are lied to by Jesus and Judas gets the super secret true deposit of faith. And developing teachings on Faith and morals based on an unchanging scriptural canon and tradition of immemorial custom.

But nice try.

>>137343630
Matthew 25:42
This kills the proddies.

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>>137343721
Thanks, will participate

>>137343696
Do you mean Satan? No, we son't say that. Satan is bad.

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>>137343798
What ever you say buddy

>>137343908
>And developing teachings on Faith and morals based on an unchanging scriptural canon and tradition of immemorial custom.
Still the cannon was developed WAY after 2 century.

>>137343630
This is the problem with protestants. They can't wrap their head around the fact they are saved through grace and good works.

>>137343976
The question was clearly rhetorical.

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how do I into catholic church, and how to support the catholics despite pedophilia

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>>137342966
So why is sunday, the Sun God's day and the first day of week, the new sabbath? Why do we celebrate Jesus Crist's birthday on 25 december, the day of Dies Natalis Solis Invicti? Not to mention all these pagan sun discs and halos around the heads of Christian celebrities?

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>>137343974
Wonderful. The more souls the better. Bless.

>>137343813
>Well, who then, mr. memeflag?

I think it's pretty damn obvious if you've been paying attention it's a veritable cabal of far left politicians, educators and activists that are to blame here.

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>>137343020
You don't know what it's like walking into a church and seeing race mixed couples, gay couples, nigger priests white girls call father, etc. You don't know that Bible can be interpreted to destroy the white race.

Atheism is not only older than Christianity, it is truly European. The first atheist was an ancient Greek man named Diagoras of Melos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism

Yes! Atheists and Pagans forever united against christ-cucks, Jews and mudslimes. Cry me a river christfag.

>>137344168
Because kikes had no aesthetics and retarded callender. Christianity would either adapt stuff from superior roman culture or it would never catch on.

>>137343965
That's aboit accepting Jesus. Also from a parable aboit something that hasn't even happened yet.

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>>137339352
>>137339008
>>137339506
this might be useful. the textus receptus (interlinear Bible)

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>>137344168
That was 300 years after the birth of Christ. https://jamesbishopblog.com/2015/01/19/23-reasons-why-scholars-know-jesus-is-not-a-copy-of-pagan-religions/

Also for anons for more rosary threads here is a latin copy pasta with spaces to read it more clearly
The Apostle's Creed
I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into hell; the third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.

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>>137344110
Where does it say you are saved by works?

>>137343696
That guy is atheist
>>137343784
Agree, it seems like the catholic mourns Jesus instead of rejoicing Christ.
>>137343813
You are a jew. You gov't leaders are godless jews too and as they flood your nation with muslims you think to blame the Christians? What a twisted mind you have jew.

>>137344110
Because we aren't

you're still rewarded for works though(Rev 22:12) so yoi should still do them.

>>137344325
And how did those leftists gain power above the church that gates of hell can't conquer? Is it becouse like when you lost north africa and middle east you just were shit at your job? Also show your flag.

>>137344346
God damn well said.

Reminder that prayer does absolutely nothing.

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>>137344338
Ha! Your pic, you wish! Hate to break it to you bub, but you are on the wrong side. Best get your self over to the right side, right now. Save your soul, save yourself.

>>137344139
Don't

If you want be protestant then be orthodox. Orthodox still burn in hell but they're at least cool.

>>137344543
>an amerimutt calls me a kike
How is your foreskin, kikeboy?

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>>137343908
hey man, are you a philologist? an archaeologist?
if you claim we can be in error, why can you not believe that a random Churchman can be in error?

also, I never said anything about Judas... and I am not a gnostic, although I do enjoy some of the apocrypha...

what I have said is based on my personal experiences, not books. I have been baptized into the catholic church, and to show you how radical I am, I don't believe my baptism in Church was a real baptism, I believe I was baptized by works almost a year later. In fact the Church does teach that works build character, and truth becomes more apparent to those with good character, but I doubt you know that.

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>>137344338

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>>137344711
still looking for a denomination, can i get a quick rundown on branches

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The Lord's Prayer
Our Father, Who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name; Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive

those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.


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>>137344108
The canon was compiled later but the epistles and Gospels are older than Gnostic texts, the Bible was just the official readings for Christians regarding the faith. And there is the second pillar for the deposit of faith is tradition based on immemorial custom

>>137344338
>atheist
>pagans
no pls, explain.

>>137334610
>But why not just pray to Christ and not the dead humans? Will Christ not hear your prayer without extra convincing from mary or peter?

Consider that the intercession of Mary persuaded Jesus to convert water to wine at the wedding at Cana (John 2:1-11), and that Peter's prayers of intercession repeatedly worked miracles for those who asked for his intercession.

>Now as Peter went here and there among all the believers, he came down also to the saints living in Lydda. There he found a man named Aeneas, who had been bedridden for eight years, for he was paralyzed. Peter said to him, “Aeneas, Jesus Christ heals you; get up and make your bed!” And immediately he got up. And all the residents of Lydda and Sharon saw him and turned to the Lord.
-Acts 9:32-35

Now one might ask: why didn't the Christians of Lydda go straight to Jesus? Why did they ask for Peter's intercession? Well, we don't know for certain, but they probably did, themselves, pray for a miracle, i.e., go straight to Jesus. But for Jesus to answer their prayer, it ultimately required the intercession of a great saint, Peter.

Likewise the miracle in Joppa, where Peter interceded on behalf of the Christians there and raised Tabitha from the dead. Acts 9:36-42.

The saints in heaven are alive in Christ. Matthew 17:3, 22:32; John 11:25.

Jesus is glorified in His saints. 2 Thess 1:10.

See generally >>137342091

>>137343965
This Atheist pretends to be Catholic and then admits his atheism
>>137343813


These atheists larp as prot and catholic as necessary to stir the pot and sew hatred, anyone emulating his words from either side is hardly Christian.

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The Hail Mary
Hail Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen.

AVE MARIA GRATIA PLENA DOMINVS TECVM BENEDICTA TV IN MVLIERIBVS ET BENEDICTVS FRVCTVS VENTRIS TVI IESVS SANCTA MARIA MATER DEI ORA PRO NOBIS PECCATORIBVS NVNC ET IN HORA MORTIS NOSTRAE AMEN

>>137344929
>Gospels are older than Gnostic texts
Like Matthew for example? Yeah, that's one old book! Definlity older than let's say Ascension of Isaiah which is alluded to in pauline letters.

>>137344551
Cor 3 : 15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

So if works are required how would anyone ever know they're truly saved?

Gen 6:18-20
so that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us. This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, a hope both sure and steadfast and one which enters within the veil, where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.

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Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.


GLORIA PATRI ET FILIO ET SPIRITVI SANCTO SICVT ERAT IN PRINCIPIO ET NVNC ET SEMPER ET IN SAECVLA SAECVLORVM AMEN

>>137344543
>catholic mourns Jesus instead of rejoicing Christ.
Maybe the focus should be on the revival instead. But my point is I find carrying a little christ to be a bit heretic and maybe offensive, I'm not sure why.

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>>137344338
>You don't know what it's like walking into a church and seeing race mixed couples, gay couples, nigger priests white girls call father, etc.
Those things aren't a result of Christianity. I still don't understand why you assume authentic paganism won't be against those things, nowadays you can even find Shinto priests that are White.

> You don't know that Bible can be interpreted to destroy the white race.
It can be interpreted to say all sorts of things. Until recently Southerners used it to support slavery, and now SJWs use it in an effort to paralyze Christian action, none of this means shit

>>137344893
Be what your dad was.

the difference between a novice and a master lies in nothing other than this: thenovice considers himself a "Catholic" as if it is one unified thing, the master has humbled himself to the point that he has accepted that he can never know the entirety of Catholic doctrine and looks at all Truth objectively, and Catholically... which means: holistically

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>>137344893
If want to follow rhe Bible read it for yoirself(KJV recommended) then choose.

If yoi want to follow what the early church fathers taught then stufy the history of Catholicism and orthodoxy then choose one of those.

of you choose protestant then I would recommend Baptist the Bible says you need to believe and be fully dunked

Baptism
Need to believe.
Acts 8
36And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Fully submerged in water.
Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Matthew 3:16
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
John 3:23
And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

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>>137344139
>how do I into catholic church
If you can, find a traditional Roman Catholic Church. Hard to find, but they are the ones that follow true Catholicism and still do the Latin Mass. If not, find a Catholic Church near you. Next, you attend RCIA classes. They start in September and meet once a week and end on Easter when you are Baptized and Confirmed. At that time, you are officially a Catholic! God Bless!

http://www.beginningcatholic.com/catholic-rcia-stages

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>>137344893
At first there was the Catholic Church. Then the Eastern schismatics split off and got rekt by the Turks and Russian communists. The Turks control their Holiest site and Stalin had their hierarchy killed, and then reinstituted his own.
Protestants later got all SJW protesty and got K I K E D, now they pay to volunteer working on Jewish vineyards and olive fields because they think the Bible tells them too.

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Hail holy Queen, Mother of mercy, hail, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve: to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this vale of

tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus, O merciful, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!

Amen.


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>>137345058
I never pretended to be a catholic, read my older posts. I just can see levels of stupidity. Catholic church is pretty dumb but it's clearly superior to protestants. You retards can't even read your own book. Not to mention it was catholics who preserved roman knowlege through the ages, not your dumb iconoclastic asses.

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>>137345340
>KJV recommended
NO!!! That is a Protestant bible. Stay away from that Bible!

Read the The Douay–Rheims Bible. It is a translation of the Bible from the Latin Vulgate into English made by members of the English College, Douai, in the service of the Catholic Church. The New Testament portion was published in Reims, France, in 1582.

>>137344539
i think this is "the Ephesians 2:10 thing"
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A10&version=KJV

>>137344110
What about a quadrapeligic sho begins to believe? He can't so any works so I guess he's screwed?

>>137345169
Can't tell if you're for or against faith only. But the first verse is saying if you don't have anyworks then you still go to Heaven but don't get any rewards besides that.

also you can know you're saved
1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
>that ye may know that ye have eternal life,

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Guys!
You are following a kike religion pimped up by superior roman culture and Roman Sun God.

>>137345759
Pretty sure he can still do something good.

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>>137345411
Ill fix the spacing sorry

O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy.


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>>137345695
Douay-Rheims is pretty hard to read at times desu, but so many modern translations are trash.

Yes, I'm looking at you NAB.

>>137345695
>latin to english
KJV is hebrew and greek(the languages it was written in) to english. Also there isn't such thing as a protestand Bible you fag. KJV also translated the aprocrypha

>>137345484
Your jew opinion matters not, just hoping these hate filled Christians are smart enough to see you are pretending to sew hatred just like jew would..

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>>137345388
>Jesus founded Cuckolickism
nice one boi

>>137344168
These are all actually pretty simple.

Sunday is the day of worship because Jesus was resurrected sometime between Saturday sun down and Sunday, sun rise.

Christmas was instituted as a feast about a century after some Christian bishops calculated the birth of Jesus to be December 25th the date of the Roman Solstice. The feast of Christmas began being celebrated around 50-100 years after this theory. There is really no connection other than that date between the celebrations. It should also be noted this is far before event he birth of Constantine. You can read more about it here.

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/how-december-25-became-christmas/

>Not to mention all these pagan sun discs and halos around the heads of Christian celebrities?

These represent the Beatific Vision in which the saints live. Many instances in the bible describe Jesus bathed in a ray of light or emanating light or something like that, Saint Paul makes references to a purifying light or fire. Saints live in the Beatific Vision and become a source of this light hence the halo's.Purely artistic.

Wanna talk about easter too? And eggs?

>>137345830
I feel so bad for you. Some jew really sunk his claws into you deep huh?

>>137345792
I believe what the bible says, that we are saved by Grace through faith.

I meant to reply to one of the catholics.

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O God, whose only begotten Son, by His life, death, and resurrection, has purchased for us the rewards of eternal life. Grant, we beseech Thee, that by meditating on these mysteries of the most holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through the same Christ our Lord. Amen. Pour forth we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts, that we to whom the incarnation of Christ, Thy Son, was made known by the message of an angel, may by His passion and cross be brought to the glory of His resurrection, through the same Christ Our Lord. Amen.

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>>137345735
It soesn't say you need works. That would contradict the last verse where it says "not of works". verse 10 is that you should do good works

>>137345830
Go fuck yourself. Jews stole Hebrew identity, who weren't Jewish.

Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

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This thread has been ruined by protestants. I'm not going to waste my time wading through shit.

Good bye.

>>137342050
gnostics are heretical my duder

>>137345735
How does that say we need works to be saved? And how do you know if your works are good enough? Is there a point system? Oh I've got 12 jabooleys from donating to cancer, so I'm for sure saved. Jim's only got 1 jabooleys. Definitely going to hell.

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>>137346629

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Ill get gregorian chants for each one and post it with the latin and english in the same post for future threads that op makes

LATIN/GREGORIAN CHANTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv_2x6JmuaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDGnmlg2Ww0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI4lkqYzJvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bvwzeuyx4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK5AohCMX0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxjYWvF5ttc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhP654dN3Ww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ych_dTX8G0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGgB0bf2PHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX9xVnHYFAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sieHX3tPeRw&t=123s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX9bYNK5oC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_gaT-tnpKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-5mx5o8YYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YDpSo2MRI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Ekot38tV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IxYXGfdGcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf3scPRLGFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKpexxzR4Ak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6JJCaf9e7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNMQu5LXaeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dV5b8AuLHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRhRzdiCk7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRi1GDoaQu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_8Nrx-67EY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74d3gWJOV-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkdtYIPN9ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU4ycRzwqDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQ4F9Xd45w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noetoc2W4Pc - 1.5x speed is recomended by anon.

>>137344802
Because if you are going to reject how the Church comes to truth then you are no more reliable on a personal level than say Mohammed.

>>137346704
So are ALL denominations beside your own?

>>137346333
>claws
Teeths. You have to admit that Borat guy is funny. Mind he is Jewish though.

>>137343374
If anyone is interested in a deep dive on the subject of Martin Luther, "The Roots of the Reformation" by Karl Adam is the book to read.

https://www.amazon.com/Roots-Reformation-Karl-Adam/dp/0970262108

Here is the key text: http://www.ewtn.com/library/chistory/rtref.txt

>At the end of the fifteenth century, among the common people there was a fearful decline of true piety into religious materialism, and among the clergy, widespread worldliness and neglect of duty.

>Had Martin Luther then arisen with his marvelous gifts of mind and heart, his warm penetration of the essence of Christianity, his passionate defiance of all unholiness and ungodliness, the elemental fury of his religious experience, his surging, soul-shattering power of speech, and not least that heroism in the face of death with which he defied the powers of this world--had he brought all these magnificent qualities to the removal of the abuses of the time and the cleansing of God's garden from weeds, had he remained a faithful member of his Church, humble and simple, sincere and pure, then indeed we should to-day be his grateful debtors. HE WOULD BE FOREVER OUR GREAT REFORMER, OUR TRUE MAN OF GOD, OUR TEACHER AND LEADER, COMPARABLE TO THOMAS AQUINAS AND FRANCIS OF ASSISI.

>HE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE GREATEST SAINT OF THE GERMAN PEOPLE, THE REFOUNDER OF THE CHURCH IN GERMANY, A SECOND BONIFACE...

>BUT -- and here lies the tragedy of the Reformation and of German Christianity -- he let the warring spirits drive him to overthrow not merely the abuses in the Church, but the Church Herself, founded upon Peter, bearing through the centuries the apostolic succession; he let them drive him to commit what St. Augustine calls the greatest sin with which a Christian can burden himself: he set up altar against altar and tore in pieces the one Body of Christ.

>>137345158
>Like Matthew for example? Yeah, that's one old book! Definlity older than let's say Ascension of Isaiah which is alluded to in pauline letters.

Let me guess you read Richard Carrier? That's not even a Gnostic document.

>>137346629
>thread full of Atheists
>blame respectful Protestants
Found another atheist, dont you real Catholics and Protestants see their pattern?

>>137346070
I'll stick to my Douay-Rhimes. Plus, Latin is the language satan hates, which is why when the Catholic Church was taken over and destroyed in Vatican II, they got rid of the Latin Mass. Satin no like Latin.

Regarding your Protestant bible:
"The KJV was translated or written with the use of the most original manuscripts in Hebrew and Greek. The problem with the translating process at that time was that the translators were mostly pure Englishmen, with limited knowledge of Hebrew. There were also a small number of texts to which their new version had to be based, including the Greek Textus Receptus for the New Testament and the Hebrew Masoteric for the Old Testament. Their translation also included the Apocrypha, although newer versions of such do not include the said books. Moreover, the scholars who were tasked by the king to do the translation asked for little or no help from anyone in translating the Catholic Bible. The result is a book that contained lots of errors. No wonder there has been many revised versions of this English Bible, named the New King James Version."

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how do I as a catholic not be pissed off about Vatican II?

seeing the church get subverted pisses me off

>>137346708
honestly i have no idea how they misinterpret the word. it's right there, clear as day. you get salvation through Jesus Christ and only through Him may you get to Yahweh. not from being a good boy.
perhaps Catholics don't understand because they are not actually Christian. They are the heathens that have lived on in perpetuity since the days of creation. But they act like they're Christians and say that they're Christians or Jews (remember when God said what he said about those who said they were Jews but were not Jews; rather, they were the synagogue of satan?)
>What better cover would a heathen have than to pretend to be Godly? They literally worship the shit from Babylon and Egypt, perform magick spells and rites, and they get their little Earthly gains from it. But they will be ultimately tossed into the abyss once the good shit goes down.

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>>137347419
gaytheists and fagnostics are the worst

>>137347450
Why wouldn't satan like Latin?

>>137347315
Well it shows non-material Jesus for example. That's rather heretical!

>>137325245

Fuck off faithlet. The strenght of the church is needed now more than ever, only 2000 years of history, culture and tradition can protect us from the rising tide of the cultural marxists.

>>137347450
>satan
>Satin
See, satan is already messing with me.

>>137347611
I cannot recall. I just know from reading book on exorcisms written by Priests years ago, and reading other Catholic books on the history of Satan written long ago (one as far back as the 1500s), that Satan hates the Latin language. So, saying your prayers in the original Latin hurts Satan. But I just do not remember why they said this was so.

>>137347463
By not loving and embracing Vatican II and now openly defying it you've denied the word of God and embraced the spirit of martin luther

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>>137347450
>Satan hates latin
Can you show me the verse on that
also see >>137346799

And weren't the translators were the best ones in Europe and actually did just speak greek and hebrew regularary. And the only errors are capitlization the others have been refuted.

>>137347010
true, but you have to judge a source! what differentiates a random 4chan user, or homeless man shouting on the subway from the Church? NOTHING

credibility is built in myriad ways, the true catholic should consider everything open-mindedly and not just shut out things that make sense even though they are against Church teachings... or contrariwise accept things which make no sense, how can we accept something that we cannot understand?

>>137344139
You enter the Church quite simply because it's true.

>https://www.catholic.com/tract/pillar-of-fire-pillar-of-truth

The pedophilia thing is a genuine scandal. It *is* embarrassing. That said, Catholic priests do sexual assault at a smaller rate than school teachers and other denominations. They just get all the attention because there was a cover up from some higher ups and because of the importance of the church and the centralized nature of the church.

http://prospect.org/article/next-christian-sex-abuse-scandal

http://www.themediareport.com/2013/10/02/evangelical-sex-abuse-worse-than-catholic-church/

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/08/09/now-we-have-real-evidence-%E2%80%93-sexual-abuse-is-not-a-%E2%80%98catholic-problem%E2%80%99/

http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/controversy/common-misconceptions/9-myths-about-priestly-pedophilia.html

http://www.awkwardmomentsbible.com/shocking-pastors-on-the-prowl/

http://www.themediareport.com/fast-facts/

http://shoebat.com/2014/05/06/sexual-abuse-protestant-churches-catholic/

http://www.christiancentury.org/article/2013-10/evangelicals-worse-catholics-sexual-abuse

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/has-media-ignored-sex-abuse-in-school/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/forgotten-study-abuse-in-school-100-times-worse-than-by-priests

Further, they have done much to respond:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_response_to_Catholic_sexual_abuse_cases

>>137348006
Oh. I was just wondering why he would hate it more than Greek. Wasn't the New Testament originally written in Greek?

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>>137346629
Stand up and fight faggot

>>137347463
Because it isn't The True Church Of God^tm and never was

>>137348013
it's more like vatican 2 is the spirit of martin luther

they changed so much shit for the worse

>>137348214
Yes it was written in Greek. Catholics are just insane.

>>137347611
I found this by an old Priest who did exorcisms:

"...he did explain that the Rite of Exorcism is only said in Latin. One reason is practical - there is no approved translation in English as yet. He gave another reason why he was so strongly in favor of the use of Latin in the Rite of Exorcism: “The Devil hates Latin, it is the universal language of the Church.” I asked him about this afterwards, and he repeated it, saying that his personal experiences as an exorcist who has performed many, many exorcisms have convinced him of this. He told me he had heard from exorcists who did exorcisms in Italian, Spanish and Portuguese (the only approved vernaculars for this Rite) that Latin was the most effective language."

>>137347981
Amen.

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>>137348190
>That said, Catholic priests do sexual assault at a smaller rate than school teachers and other denominations.
Source: The Vatican Archives, c2016, Volume 3, Section R14, "Study of Child Sexual Abuse among priests and the Upper Church, as Compared to the Activities On-going At Comet Ping Pong Family Restaurant"
Also, by me putting pic related here, do you get it that I get it?

>>137332743
I was just going to point that out, kek.

Hail Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

>>137348279
Not really, the Church documents from the Council were pretty meh tier.

The "Spirit of Vatican II" was far worse, because clergy just did whatever the hell they wanted.

Remember, Vatican II Said that Latin and Gregorian chant should have pride and place in the liturgy.

I am no feeble Christ not me.
He hangs in glib delight upon his cross, above my body.
Christ forgive.
FORGIVE?
I vomit for you Jesu.
Shit forgive.
Down now from your cross.
Down now from your papal heights, from that churlish suicide, petulant child.
Down from those pious heights, royal flag bearer, goat, billy.
I vomit for you.
Forgive?
Shit he forgives.
He hangs in crucified delight nailed to the extend of his vision, his cross, his manhood, violence, guilt, sin.
He would nail my body upon his cross, suicide visionary, death reveller, rake, rapist, lifefucker,
Jesu, earthmover,
Christus, gravedigger, you dug the pits of Auschwitz, the soil of Treblinka is your guilt, your sin, master, master of gore, enigma.
You carry the standard of your oppression.
Enola is your gaiety.
The bodies of Hiroshima are your delight the nails are your only trinity, hold them in your corpsey gracelessness, the image I have had to suffer.
The cross is the virgin body of womenhood that you defile.
You nail yourself to your own sin.
Lamearse Jesus calls me sister there are no words for my contempt, every woman is a cross in is filthy theology, in his arrogant delight.
He turns his back upon me in his fear, he dare not face me.
Fearfucker.
Share nothing you Christ, sterile, impotent, fucklove prophet of death.
You are the ultimate pornography, in your cuntfear, cockfear, manfear, womanfear, unfair, warfare, warfare, warfare, warfare, warfare, warfare, warfare, warfare.
JESUS DIED FOR IS OWN SINS, NOT MINE

>>137348214
>Wasn't the New Testament originally written in Greek?
>>137348390
>Yes it was written in Greek.
No. The original Bible was mainly written in Biblical Hebrew, with some portions (notably in Daniel and Ezra) in Biblical Aramaic

The very first translation of the Hebrew Bible was to Greek.

all of ye are Church's unto yourselves... seek to build a good credit score, i.e. faith in you, amongst your neighbors and perhaps also in God

>>137348603
So you're source is a random old priest?