Debunking the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory

>Don't believe the truth


t. Jews

>>137259262
>the truth
The truth is that the Franks were social conservatives who were as much against what western culture had become as /pol/, except they pinpointed the problem as capitalism and the failure of the Enlightenment rather than "da jooooz".

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>>137259128
You tried this during Gamergate too.

Didn't work then either.

>>137259587
When these academics used the term "cultural Marxism" they did NOT mean "political correctness" or whatever the fuck the right likes to use the term for.

>>137259128
The cultural Marxism meme and its origins in the Frankfurt School is slightly overblown but there's some nuggets of truth to it. Figures like Herbert Marcuse certainly had a role to play in radicalising the 1960s student generation with far left ideas but other theorists like Adorno were just grumpy old men dissatisfied with the culture industry.

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>>137259128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

Put your commie/anarchist flag on, you fucking kike shill.

sage

>>137259813
Marcuse had very little influence beyond the blip during the 60s. No one on the Left today gives Marcuse much credit or uses him as an influence.

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>>137259813
>some nuggets of truth

Find one part of this which isnt plainly obvious to see in our society. This is a kike shill thread and anyone denying cultural marxism is a marxist who does not believe in objective truth. They only believe in deception and trickery, not real factual standpoints. Whatever they can trick people into believing is as good as fact, and therefore you might as well just consider it all brainwashing designed to trick you out of factual objective beliefs.

Leftists political opinions are invalid on their face because they are predicated on a false perception of reality. "Hands up dont shoot" when Mike Brown was shot downwards into his torso, while charging head first at the cop, and had actually put his hand prints on the cops gun, because he tried to wrestle it out of his hands.

So, the entire group of leftists in videos you see chanting "hands up dont shoot" are really chanting "Were a bunch of lying cultural marxists who use false narratives to trick people into believing our agenda, we want to turn a criminal into a victim and start an entire controversy over something that NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED"

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>>137260398

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>>137260450

>>137259404
>hurr what is critical theory what is the authoritarian personality

leftists are too dumb to live.

>>137260521
Adorno had very little to do with that text. Most of the essays were penned by Levinson, a Berkeley psychologist who had nothing to do with the Franks.

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Nail em to the wall.

>>137261055
FYI the Unabomber was influenced by Marcuse. Parts of his Manifesto sound identical to One-Dimensional Man.

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>>137260476
>Adorno had very little to do with that text.

Source: Your Ass

Horkheimer literally founded critical theory

Derrida (not Frankfurt but still a post-modernist Jew) founded deconstructionism

Claude-Levi Strauss founded structuralism which demanded all humans be considered entirely equal.

The only failure of the "Frankfurt school" hypothesis is that it's not remotely expansive enough. There were far more kikes ruining society than just one school.

>>137261299
Anyone who knows anything about Adorno and his thought knows that The Authoritarian Personality is NOT representative of it.

>Horkheimer literally founded critical theory
Critical Theory is not what you think.

>Derrida (not Frankfurt but still a post-modernist Jew) founded deconstructionism
True but he was influenced by Nietzsche and Heidegger, certainly not Jews.

>>137259128
Cultural Marxism sounds like natural capitalism degeneracy phenomena

>>137261055
>*copies Jacques Ellul's techno-criticism*
>fills it out with muh leftist and muh natural competition and other dumb and edgy platitudes

How sad.

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>>137259796
>we're having this conversation using only my very specific definition, not the commonly accpeted ones

>>137262036
Most of what /pol/ blames on "cultural Marxism" is actually the result of capitalism in decay, i.e. mass migration caused by neoliberalism, confusion over identity.

>what is critical theory
>what is franks arguing against nationalism and racial identity

kys leftypol fuck

>>137259128
sage. This leaf has been trying to shill his bullshit for months.

>>137262653
>>what is franks arguing against nationalism and racial identity

Of course they were critical of fascism, dipshit. They were all refugees from Nazi Germany.

>>137261834
>Anyone who knows anything about Adorno

source: your ass

>Critical Theory is not what you think.

Critical theory is just Marxism

>influenced by Nietzsche and Heidegger,

He was primarily influenced by Husserl the founder of phenomenology who was jewish. His other main influence was just Marxism.


>>137262653
It's a stupid hill to die on

but leftypol was never that bright

>>137261834
>Anyone who knows anything
kys

>Critical Theory is not what you think.
kys again

>>137262523
Capitalism in decay is a stage of communism, according to Marx, you should know this seeing as you have been trying to shill your ideology for months now.

>>137262835
>refugees from Nazi Germany

Removing radical jewish communists is generally a good idea unless you want a bloody genocidal communist revolution on your hands

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>>137262973
>source: your ass

No. I've actually read Adorno. I think /pol/ would like pic related if they could comprehend anything over a third-grade reading level.

>Critical theory is just Marxism

The Franks were all critical of Marxism in their own way.

>>137263021
Nice arguments.

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>>137263333
>tfw Adorno died by gullible 68'ers

>For the summer semester Adorno planned a lecture course entitled "An Introduction to Dialectical Thinking," as well as a seminar on the dialectics of subject and object. But at the first lecture Adorno's attempt to open up the lecture and invite questions whenever they arose degenerated into a disruption from which he quickly fled: after a student wrote on the blackboard "If Adorno is left in peace, capitalism will never cease," three women students approached the lectern, bared their breasts and scattered flower petals over his head. Yet Adorno continued to resist blanket condemnations of the protest movement which would have only strengthened the conservative thesis according to which political irrationalism was the result of Adorno's teaching. After further disruptions to his lectures, Adorno canceled the lectures for the rest of the seminar, continuing only with his philosophy seminar. In the summer of 1969, weary from these activities, Adorno returned once again to Zermatt, Switzerland, at the foot of Matterhorn to restore his strength. On August 6 he died of a heart attack.

RIP

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>>137259128
Fuck off shill

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Rate my recent picks, leftie-senpai

>>137259128
Your video doesn't say shit.
It doesn't mention any of the theories we know these people invented, that are still used today.
Instead he takes 15 minues to ramp up to a retarded semantics arguments basically saying "marx didn't talk about culture so you can't call it marxist", and then strawmans the right.

You've proven in this thread that you're nothing but another brainwashed leftists who thinks he's smart, but cannot come to a common understanding with someone else in order to have real discussion with them. This is a common problem I notice with you people. You're so far gone, that you can't communicate, and you've been convinced the reason is that you're above everyone. The guy in the video even said "Karl Marx and his teachings" like he's some religious leader.
If I were you, I would take a good hard look at yourself and try understand whats happening to you, but you probably won't do that because if you had the ability to self reflect you wouldn't be a commie in the first place.

>>137263333
>I've actually read Adorno.

so your source is your ass, again

>The Franks were all critical of Marxism

But they were still Marxists

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>>137263485
still waiting for you to provide an argument that isn't a bad youtube video or "anybody who knows anything"

>>137263999
Yes. That's perhaps the greatest irony in this entire situation.

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>>137264232
>he reads the yuppie-philosopher

>>137261299
You clearly have no idea what structuralism is, shut your stupid nigger mouth

>>137264423
I didn't make either of those videos.

>>137264561
The Franks were never unified in their theories, they debated with each other all the time (i.e. Horkheimer didn't like all the theological stuff in Benjamin's works, Adorno didn't quite much like Marcuse, Fromm left the institute early on for creative differences). Maybe you should ACTUALLY READ THESE PEOPLE before calling a conspiracy.

>>137264517
Have a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWO2SXmcYcQ

>>137264833
Again, nothing you're saying is an actual arguement to what is happening.
Their theories are being applied in sociology and even fields of science and are leaking out of our corrupt universities.
Them arguing with eachother sometimes does not change that.

>>137261299
Derrida is a direct heir of Heidegger, just that instead of deconstructing Western metaphysics he deconstructs literary theory. Heidegger's anti-semitism can't fully be dislocated from his philosophical system. Judaism is technicity and so on.

The term postmodernist is useless.

Horkheimer is critical of how "reason" is deployed in the service of instrumentality.

>>137264742

p-pls no bully ;_;

>>137265619
Derrida was a pretty Jewish thinker though.

>>137263999

>The kike became a victim of the mosnter he helped to create

HAHAHAHA

itt zero readers of Dialectic of Enlightenment

>>137266184
Sort of I guess. He was zionist and wrote a lot about the Old Testament.

Didn't circumcise his sons.

>>137266213
Adorno didn't "help create" the New Left by any means.

>>137259128
explain the rapid degeneration of societal values and structures if not an active agenda

>>137266804
It's capitalism.

>when faced with an actual argument, the communist ignores it to make more non arguments, hoping to trap other low iq children in his net

>>137266804
Values died before Adorno and Horkheimer came along, they just noted it and tried to explain it.

>>137267233
What "actual argument"? No one has been able to provide any evidence that the Frankfurt School was deliberately orchestrating a Marxist-influenced cultural decline.

>believing a few philosophers are so powerful they can change western society forever
>believing this while never having read one single word by said philosophers
I mean, it's common knowledge the alt right is pants down retarded and illiterate (see Spencer's laughable interpretation of Nietzsche) but this just beats all previous retardation.

But obviously I'm a jewish kike shill who has nothing better to do then argue with anti-intellectuals on the internet.

>>137266987

>its le porky
>leaf

Leftypol shill detected. Thread discarded.

>>137264809
t. Frog in denial

>>137265619
He was a "direct" heir of Husserl

>>137267786
>hurr what is media/finance

every parasitic sector of the economy is dominated by Jews and has been for centuries. They use their domination of the media to shill for kike philosophies.

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>>137266804
Interesting books for you

Postmodernism or the cultural logic of late capitalism
The Culture of Narcissism
Democracy in America

>>137268398
Merci mon ami.

>>137268025
If you can't be bothered to put actual correct definitions behind words, you probably shouldn't be trying to engage people in debate and go mix concrete instead

>>137267767
*by your own definition
Account for the fact that their theories are in rampant use today, especially in the social sciences.

>>137267767
also i wrote that because you didn't respond to me here: >>137265173

>>137268213
Have you ever read Critical Theory? Of course you haven't. It is a far cry from the neoliberal status quo defended in the mainstream media. You pull this shit out of your ass, but it doesn't matter. Conspiracies like this make simpletons like you understand the world better. If you had any brain you would pick up Adorno's books and see if the conspiracies on the internet are true. But you would rather live in your comfy fictional hyperreality where your simple wordview calms you down when you're scared.

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>>137268491
It's a pretty basic definition of structuralism

But go ahead and continue living in denial.

>go mix concrete instead

kek

typical anti working class leftist

>>137269065
They accurately describe the what's and why's of the devastation of the modern world? At least A&H do. What theories in particular are you talking about?

>>137269276
>just read a book
the classic commie defense

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>>137269134
Universities are part of the market too.

People with money has access to universities just like anyone else. or probably more, they had enough leverage to turn any theory produced inside the academia into a market value, in order to make money.

You can't blame the people that opposes the market as the ultimate lords of what the market does.

>>137269406
You're tipping your hand here

>>137269356
>critical theory
>deconstructionism
>accurately describe the what's and why's of the devastation of the modern world
lmao commie scum just leave

>>137269406
>>137269631
Just try the first two chapters of Dialectic of Enlightenment. It's 63 pages. Can you manage that or is your max about a nine minute video?

>>137269065
No, the academy has little regard for the Franks. Everything is POST-STRUCTURALIST now.

>>137269608
universities are sponsored and enforced by the state.

>>137269878
>>137269628
The fact that I have never seen a communist able to articulate an argument is NOT me tipping my hand. Every time you faggots are faced with an argument you say "no just read our master's words, they'll convince you like they did us". It's more evidence that you're retarded and don't actually understand what's happening, you're just mouthing the words of dead, cursed men who have done their best to destroy our world.

>>137270022
>a communist telling straight faced lies
imagine my shock

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Jaffe Memo

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>>137269631
Deconstructionism it's not a marxist theory, decontructionism it's a force of nature.

No ideology or aspect of human intellectual construction it's safe from it, the right does the same intellectual nitpicking that the left does, it's not a political stance, but a natural development of a normal brain.

People question things.

>>137269276
>Have you ever read Critical Theory? Of course you haven't. It is a far cry from the neoliberal status

That's hilarious

That's like saying

>hurr Stalin's USSR is a far cry from muh communist manifesto therefore #nottruecommunists

Maybe the implementation of Critical Theory just results in neoliberalism regardless of the left's retarded, self defeating intentions.

>>137269328
You can also suck a dick, whatever you're most skilled at
Just leave lay down abstract thinking, it's obviously not in your genes to be any proficient at it

>>137270175
>marx didn't say it so it's not marxist
oh wow just like OP's video
These not being """Marxist""" ideas for whatever reasons you can come up with, doesn't mean they don't exist and are not effecting the world.
Fucking commies only trying to trip you up with semantics, never actually addressing an argument.
And these cultural marxist theories are not a natural development of a normal brain, they are a tumor

>>137270403
>leftist feigning belief in genetics

nice try

>>137259128
This reminds me of aron ra's argument about feminism means equality for the genders...
That is to say it's bunk gabbagook

>>137270044
The only argument you've put forward is that anybody you disagree with is a communist or a Marxist with a side of "prove it but no, I won't examine the evidence you provide"

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>>137270044
The state it's also formed by private individuals, it's not a magic all reaching institution, no matter what marxists believe.

Therefore the actions of the state has to be judged as the actions of particular individuals with interests that reflect their own.

>>137270489
Being critical of the status quo will always be a thing, the same way you are questioning the role of academia, the first marxists questioned their own hegemonic culture, not because you oppose marxists means that you are doing anything different from them, you just oppose individuals.

I would say a significant goal of the NWO types in 20th century was the complete eradication of communism, so probably unlikely they're all secret commies...

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The neon signs which hang over our cities and outshine the natural light of the night with their own are comets presaging the natural disaster of society, its frozen death.

>>137270727
>communists lying agin
Are you intentionally lying or are you too stupid to understand?
Here's some of my arguments not a single one of the 3-4 commies I'm juggling right now has been able to accurately account for: >>137264423
>>137265173
>>137269065
>>137270044
>>137270489

>>137270371
How would you know your criticisms of the Franks and their projects are accurate if you haven't bothered to read their works?

>>137270986
wtf I hate electricity now

>>137271156
So your big argument is that academics work in academia, and that people discuss Marx the and Frankfurt School. Also, the social sciences are bad.

>>137270922
>the state is now the private market because individuals make it up
You crossed wires at some point in there.

"""deconstructionsim""" as it is defined and is used, is more than just critical of the status quo. Deconstructionists are at this point outright denying basic sexual biology, are you telling me they're simply "being critical of the status quo"?

>>137259128

there's plenty of jewish crimes against humanity to go around Shlomo, stop wasting your time.

>>137271539
I've read enough to know it's just Marxism

>>137271156
So far, your main argument is that those theories are popular in social sciences departments. Come back to us when those guys are running banks and governments

>>137271620
>>137271620
The only argument any communist itt has attempted to provide for me to prove that the idea of "cultural marxism" does not exist is that
1. these people had different ideas and disagreed sometimes
2. It's not actually marxist
I challenged these ideas by saying that
1. it doesn't matter if they disagreed sometimes, their ideas live on and infect us still
2. the connection to marx is fairly obvious and a useless semantics argument at this point
and no communist has even attempted to refute this, except by telling me to "read a book"

>>137271892
What have you "read"?

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>>137271946
>>137271946
They are running governments and universities

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>>137271670
https://sociology.fas.harvard.edu/pages/funding

Yes, it's just regular critique done at academic level, no matter what ideological trench you choose, the more you research into the topics the more you will clash in the same landmarks, as an individual you are free to believe in whatever world complexion you wish, but as the result of human interactions, you have marketshare and this means money takes the front seat.

>>137271892
Also, look at the videos I posted to get a better impression of the Franks:
>>137259128
The second one mentions the ((((Joooz)))).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMqTRfCnUtU

>>137272688
Dick Spencer is a huge fan of the Franks actually. You should have posted that video.

>>137272189
What parts of Dialectic of Enlightenment do you find yourself disagreeing most with?

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Someone inspired by the Frankfurt School was Paul Piccone and Telos Press. Reshaped marxism with a schmittian flair to explain managerial capitalism that tries to neutralise revolutionary sentiment. Explains the proliferation of academicised identity politics.

>Desperate to locate anything resembling a revolutionary subject to carry out the projected historical task — beyond a few pockets of intellectual elites — the Left has tended to latch onto whatever segment of society seemed at odds with the system, no matter how contradictory their political objectives might have been. At various times during the past three decades it has embraced women demanding universal equality, feminists vindicating gender particularity, civil rights demonstrators seeking to abolish segregation, black nationalists advocating separatism, upwardly mobile Afro-American professionals defending affirmative action, homosexuals fighting, first, ostracism, and seeking protected minority status later, illegal immigrants, farm workers, the homeless — any group complaining about something. Far from resulting in any ”rainbow coalition” able to challenge the logic of the system, such an opportunistic, indiscriminate approach may have resulted in a few tenured positions for Left ideologues scavenging ”cultural studies” for real or imagined subversive elements, but it has destroyed whatever there may have been of a coherent Left perspective. Thus it is no accident that the Left’s main goal today is merely ”inclusion” in a system no longer deemed in need of radical changes, rather than ushering in a qualitatively different society untainted by the structural flaws responsible, among other things, for the new fons et origo malorum: ”exclusionary mechanisms” keeping particular individuals and groups out of the mainstream.

Here is a good article:

http://www.c2cjournal.ca/2009/06/where-marx-and-conservatives-meet-the-writings-of-paul-piccone/

>>137262835
>against nationalism and racial identity
>of course they were critical of fascism
Nigger can you even read

>>137272451
There's a difference between scientific questioning and deconstructionism. Deconstructionism is not research. Deciding that there are 72 genders because you say so is not research. deciding the patriarchy is oppressing women and that's why they can't succeed is not research. It's just mindless challenging and deconstructing.

>but as the result of human interactions, you have marketshare and this means money takes the front seat.
Can you explain what you mean by this? I don't speak about words in terms of marketshare, so I don't understand what you're saying.

>>137273381
I've read several works by the Franks, yes.

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>>137259128
>Implying the jewish bolshevik revolt of 1919 didn't happen
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
>Implying jews weren't favored in the Soviet Union even though they were the only ones allowed to leave the country.
>Implying jews arent the current owners of central banks responsible of inflation since 1917, dropping purchasing power of the dollar to less than 1/20 of the value it had then (aka 1 dollar now = 5 cents then), while not following through with income increase on the same magnitude (resulting in income decrease).
>implying jews dont own every MSM establishment in this country
>implying the US had anything to do with WWII, and that we profited in anyway from seeing our kind being sent to the slaughter in European shores against a man who favored the very same people who Americans sent to fight him.


Gas yourself

>>137273550
What's wrong with Jewish participation in socialism?

>>137259128

You're arguing that the West has not become more progressive since 1945 and that tranny rights were always there and were not aggressively pushed by the left? Whatever you want to call it, it exists and is rotting our society.

Even in finance you have weird shit like "efficient market hypothesis" which is pretty much disproved in practice all the time, but when extended to other aspects of life it attempts to make the claim that every success story and every great achievement is attributable almost 100% due to luck. There is unquestionably some strange shit going on out there because after a certain point you have to almost redefine our understanding of probability and statistics to even justify some of the claims of luck or coincidence these people attempt to make.

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Seriously why do you lefty/pol/ neckbeards start this thread every week? You get BTFO every single time.

>>137259128

Gramsci was half Sardinian half Jewish, not Albanian.

And Cultural Marxism, at least Gramsci, is real, and recognized by Marxists all over the world.

>>137273729
"Gramsci" is an Albanian name. There's even a town in Albania called Gramsh.

>>137273729
Only marxist to have used the word 'cultural marxism' is Fredric Jameson.

The Alt-Right uses gramscian strategies to gain influence.

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>>137259128
this thread again do you not understand the more you try say there nothing going on the more people get suspicious

>>137272982
>just read a book
commies really can't into arguments. Let me help you out
>THE QUESTION: Does Cultural Marxism Exist?
>OP'S ARGUMENT: watch this youtube video that says it doesn't because these people didn't always agree and other semantics about naming conventions
>MY COUNTERPOINT: regardless or naming conventions or how organized the alleged "attack on our culture" is, it still exists and is still happening in our government and universities today.
The counterpoint you're now making to this is "Go read dialectic of enlightenment" but you have made 0 attempt to bring this back to the original question or tell me why this might answer me. You keep insulting me for not reading commie trash, but you can't articulate what it even says, so what does that say about you?

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>>137273138
The goal for critical theory was always inclusion, it was a movement that needed to grow and that was conceived under illumination values like "all men are created equal".

>>137273473
Is there money in saying that there's more than two genders?

Is there a way to comercialize the fact that some people doesn't feels comfortable with the current gender distribution?

If you can make money from it, people that wants that money will defend it, remember that political gains, turn into cash more often than not.

>>137259128
Albanian yes. Jews are so 2015. Gas the albanians 2018

>>137274005
>posting Yuri
He's not a credible source by any means, and if you watch his interview he never mentions the Frankfurt School OR Gramsci OR Lukács.

>>137273647
The argument is that it's a result of capitalism, not the Frankfurt school or its members. Besides, Adorno was critical of rapid, sweeping change and of the elimination of value systems.

Of the two forces, money or academia, which do you think has the greater power?

>>137274186
You would say that, ex-Yugo.

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>>137273138
>Someone inspired

please proceed NSA Agent John.

>>137266987
Cuck alert

>>137274702
FYI fascists are also anti-capitalism.

>>137274061
63 pages dude. It's a foundational text and reading it would do a lot to further your understanding of the Frankfurt school. To give a very brief synopsis: "we're all doomed and here's why: people think they have answers when they don't and they think 'nobody has answers' is an answer/value system in itself."

The problem people seem to have with this is that they think the meaning is "here's how to doom us: destroy all values."

>>137274179
Ah, I understand. Good point. I suppose in that sense it is a free market, and you're right.

The problem I still have is that is profitable because of the institution of the "academic journal" that has to be purchased by state sanctioned university libraries, where a lot of these ideas are made profitable and have to be passed arround.

The other problem is that progressive thinktanks with a lot of money are pushing these type of things, but that is truly a free market issue.

>>137273987

Cultural Hegemony, dominant ideology, is a proper marxist term created by Gramsci. I am not American, for years I thought that when 4 channers talked of Cultural Marxism they meant Gramsci, not the Frankfurt school.

And you have a successful example of marxist infiltration of institutions in Vnezuela. There commies joined the army decades ago, and the only reason the government doesnt fall in the army supports the government.

>>137274768
Your synopsis does not attempt to answer my argument, it only sounds like you're trying to prove that cultural marxism is a good thing.

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>>137274179
Am a bit doubtful that the "goal" for such a wide method of social inquiry is "inclusion". Isn't the defining characteristic of critical theory negativity in the marxist sense (criticise everything)?

>>137273987
>The Alt-Right uses gramscian strategies to gain influence.
Like putting trump into the white house then seeing him crumble because they didn't change the mainstream culture before?
Or when they made a white supremacist protest yesterday? Yeah, if there's something that they don't know well is cultural marxism.

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>>137275027
The goal was always to level the play field, original critical theory opposed the monarchy claims of divinity that's how this movement took roots, it may seem distorted after a few centuries, but that same claim it's always there.

>Workers are equal to factory owners
>Peasants are equal to the aristocracy
>Regular Joe's are equal to wall street fat cats.

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"Cultural Marxism" is a dangerous and unhelpful fantasy. It is the fetishism of choice that explains the synthesis between social progressivism and capitalism. Liberal-capitalism has caused the cultural unwinding of the West and the democratisation of culture into vapid spectacle. Liberals believe that choice is freedom, and since capitalism and liberalism are ideologies of choice, they coexist. Indeed, liberalism requires capitalism to survive, while the Chinese experience demonstrates that the dependency is not reciprocal.

The atomisation of a society into agents under capitalism prunes the social bonds of a people and clears the space for liberalism. Liberalism expands into this space by extending the capitalist choice between commodities into choice between political parties, leaders, sexuality, aesthetics, gender, race, etc. "You can be anything!" is not only the liberal's commandment, it is his axiom and his maxim--- since he believes he could've been anyone, all things are possible.

Intersectional liberal hermeticists have more in common with pic related than they do with Marx. St. Augustine wrote "The City of God" while the Western Roman Empire was beginning to capitulate, and he reacted to the collapse of the exterior world by retreating into his interior world. St. Augustine and the liberal hermeticists are Magian nihilists who reject the uncertain material world collapsing around them and retreat into an absolute platonic realm.

>>137274930
I'm saying A&H had very valid criticisms and insights. I'm saying that analyzing culture is not the same as a cultural movement, and that culture is tied far more into economy than it is to academic discourse. The academic discourse wouldn't even happen without the economic base.

>>137259262
fpbp

>>137275060
>>The Alt-Right uses gramscian strategies to gain influence.
>Like putting trump into the white house then seeing him crumble because they didn't change the mainstream culture before?

10/10

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What's all this about crowd control? It's like foreign nuclear powers want us infighting desu. Meme flags up 9001% confirms.

http://americanempireproject.com/empiresworkshop/chapter3/CIAsPsychologicalOperationsInGuerrillaWarfareCIAContraManual.pdf

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>>137275632
So you're saying it doesn't exist because it's not doing what right wing people say it's doing?

>>137259404
this, the Frankfurt School should be essential /pol/ reading. Many franks are actually persona non grata in academia in my experience, or at least very problematic like Nietzsche..

>>137259128
How many times do you need to get BTFO before you give up on making these boring threads?

>>137276051
You're giving a bunch of philosophy professors far too much credit. You're labeling them as a cause of change when really they just wrote about the causes of change.

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>>137275581
Gotta love when people stops arguing and starts preaching.

>>137273609
>What's wrong with Jewish participation in socialism?
It would be fucking nothing, if 90% of communism wasn't pushed by them.
They have an agenda in it, no doubt being the (((leaders))) of the new world.

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>>137259128
>There is no evidence for any of this
Keep diging leaf, you don't know every aspect of this cancer ideology.

>>137259128
a fucking leaf.

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>>137275581
nice, pic related is a death blow to liberalism

>>137274768
>implying society can't have both.

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>>137276658
That's a dangerous oversimplification.

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>>137259128
On Postmodernism, Critical Theory's evil twin.

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>>137275540
>original critical theory opposed the monarchy claims of divinity
Where are you getting this from? Original? Did critical theory start with Voltaire or something to you?

>>137277563
Pic related is a "postmodernist" making anglican faith cool again.

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2016/10/liberalism-and-capitalism-have-hollowed-out-society-so-where-do-we-turn-now

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>>137277563
>This it's all about having Stacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqUMbxHLPvk

If you don't have arguments don't post walls of text without meaning.

>>137276658
>>137277108
most jews are like Kyle's family in South Park- normal people. Don't hate an entire race, that's wrong. But it is true there is extreme overlap between jewish people and people working to destroy our nationstates

>>137276378
I finally understand what the fuck you're saying (it took you long enough), and its becoming increasingly more difficult for me to take you seriously.
You lying fucking commie jew.
They were not "social conservatives" in the sense that we are. It is an outright lie that you're peddling that "they are like you, but they found the real problem". They lived in America in the 50s and hated it, and criticized it to no end, developing their academic theories around tearing it down.
It is an outright lie that they don't have a legacy that is still in action today, and you STILL have not accounted for the continued application of their theories in the public realm.
I'm done with you and your slimy deceits.

>>137277563
>evil twin
To clarify: since they are twins by birth, they're equally evil.

>>137278047
Good argument.

>>137259796
And when other academics use the term, and when everyone else uses the term, they do mean political correctness, for that's an extension of the same subversive action.

>>137278000
"Chap. I. Sect. 1. It having been shewn in the foregoing discourse,
1. That Adam had not, either by natural right of fatherhood, or by
positive donation from God, any such authority over his children, or
dominion over the world, as is pretended:
2. That if he had, his heirs, yet, had no right to it:
3. That if his heirs had, there being no law of nature nor positive
law of God that determines which is the right heir in all cases that may
arise, the right of succession, and consequently of bearing rule, could
not have been certainly determined.

>TWO TREATISES OF GOVERNMENT
> By John Locke

SALUS POPULI SUPREMA LEX ESTO

LONDON PRINTED MDCLXXXVIII

>>137268398
Lasch is a latter-day prophet

We live everyday in cultural Marxism.

To say it isn't real would be like. Well we're all in room 24.

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Good article. Don't miss.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/03/23/frankfurt-school-headquarters-neo-marxism/

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>>137278419
Why do you extol enlightenment values like equality? "Postmodernism" and rejection of universalism would grant you a lot of political and philosophical leeway. Naive faith in reason, science and technology seems very misguided for someone on /pol/.

>>137278812
What if Diogenes was the first critical theorist?

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>>137279212
We live everyday in cultural capitalism.

To say it isn't real would be like. Well we're all droping acid in an afghan trench.

>>137279533
It wouldn't surprise me at all.

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>>137259128
DIE KIKE SHILL EVERYTHING ABOUT MARXISM IS KIKERY

>>137274219
not that anon, but Marcuse and Alinsky both had substantial social power.

>>137278137
>you STILL have not accounted for the continued application of their theories

What exactly do you want me to "account" for? I don't think they're "like you" because you're not really a conservative in any classical sense of that term, are you? I never said that their line of thought should or would appeal to you because you're not interested in revising your position, you just want to feel right about something.

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Just don't use the term cultural marxism. Use the term neo-marxism instead.

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>>137280217
Nice doublethink there.

The ministry of truth would be pleased.

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>>137280430

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>>137280544
What it's a Neo-Marxist then?

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>>137259128
GOOD RIDDANCE

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>>137259128
>Cultural Marxism

Critical theory = Nothing theoretical about it its just Ethnic Warfare

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>>137280818
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/03/23/frankfurt-school-headquarters-neo-marxism/

>>137276137
>(((The Frankfurt School))) didn't immediately take refuge in America at Berkeley, Cornell, Yale, Stanford and some other shit one as soon as Hitler came to power
>They had no other option because they were even more conservative than the Nazis and the Nazis would have gassed them or something
>The fact they were Jews, pushed degeneracy, were open Communists and the colleges they infected are the same ones that (((useful idiots))) popped up at are all just pure coincidence lmao

End yourself at the soonest possibility.

>>137272291
I'm pretty sure if no one ever bothered to adress your shitty arguments so far is that you sound massively warped and nobody wants to spend that much energy and time arguing with a brainlet
So I'll give you a blurb, and maybe read your irritated reponses if I'm in the mood
There are no marxists running anything since 1991 you stupid thicko. Social sciences and its ideas have only marginal outreach in a few government programs, whose funding is ridiculous compared to military, scientific or economic spendings. Those ideas you despise so much live and influence people by spreading through internet, hollywood and other entertainment industries. So unless you are against a free market of ideas and cultural products and wish to advocate for government censorship and control, they are bound to spread and get popular over time
Now here's the technical part for your limited cognitive abilities. Marxism isn't just a political and economical ideology, in its days it attracted a lot of attention as a philosophical breakthrough, being a materialistic counterpart to Hegel, and bringing human groups and their work into the process of history. Any single philosopher worth the title in the 20th century was familiar with and influenced by Marx's work, much like Picasso for the arts, or Bausch for choregraphy. They're merely referencing and carrying on the developement of their field of studies, and as far as I remember their activism was next to non-existent. People need to realize once and for all that marxism deals first and foremost with economy, and talking about cultural marxism will ultimately lead to a vague label which will be co-opted by conspirationists, but holding zero explicative and predictive power. If you aren't able to adhere to well-defined academic definitions and concepts, how do you even expect to be taken seriously debating about an intellectual subject ? You even admit you didn't read the books whose authors you criticize, you gigantic moron idiot

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>>137281089
>Because people never read anything besides Marx, and what the german industrialists did in the 50's it's anything that ever happened in the world.

>>137259128

Ron Paul on the left? What the fuck?

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>>137281639
I'm trying to say that it doesn't really matter if you call it neo-marxism or cultural marxism. Call it neo-marxism since it is basically the same thing.

>>137281266
Fuck, I thought I wouldn't live to see people saying that the frankfurt school is conservative.
This is too much bullshit even for 4chan

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>>137281008
>promotion of excessive drinking

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>>137282029
So you claim that a worker from the Poland and a miner from chile are basically the same thing and should think exactly alike?

Sounds extremely Marxist to me.

>>137259128
Canadians are best posters on /pol/

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>>137282308
I'm saying that "the left" will call cultural marxism a conspiracy theory so just call it what it actually is, neo-marxism. Sorry for being unclear.

>>137259128
Its pretty funny to hear that cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory, when marxists in the academia themselves use it as a legitimate term describing anti-capitalistic critique.
Its simultaneously conspiracy theory and a legitimate term, depending on who is using it. Double-think in the best Orwellian traditions.

>>137282131
>>137281008
yeah what's wrong with this

>>137259128
i ironically watched that video yesterday.

it doesn't debunk a thing.

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>>137282574
Why should they call it a conspiracy theory?

It's obvious that there exist marxist culture, as a matter of fact it's one of the goals of Marxism, I think you are confusing people that dont' agree with you as people that think cultural marxism isn't real.

>>137264833
stop abbreviating 'frankfurt school' with 'the franks'. the franks were a germanic tribe that existed in medieval times and later became french or some shit.

>>137282940
>anarchist giving orders

>>137282940
Jews created Islam as well
https://www.scribd.com/document/351436519/Muhammad-s-Inspiration-by-Judaism
this Jew brags about it and excuses Jew deaths as merely a means to an end

> the Frankfurt school was heavily influenced by Marxist thought, applying it in a cultural/racial sense rather than economic

>b-but cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory!

Leftism is retarded, but it takes effort to be this retarded

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>>137282912
I agree that they shouldn't call it a conspiracy theory since it isn't one.

But if you don't want to give them the argumentative edge of calling it a conspiracy theorist just call it neo-marxism instead? But you do as you like of course.

>>137259128
Top kek

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>>137283429
>People in germany talked in a cultural/racial sense.

Wow boy need to cooldown after thinking that.

>>137283493
Nah I'm just pissed at intellectual reductionism, we don't have normies to babysit today and we shouldn't be pretending to be retarded.

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>>137283762
Intellectual reductionism? Elaborate?

>>137260398
Hey, let's make up bullshit to show how we're right and everyone else is wrong.
Literally worse than the 'cultural marxists'.

>>137283762
You don't understand the jew and its machinations very well, do you

>>137281325

>Marxism isn't just a political and economical ideology
>People need to realize once and for all that marxism deals first and foremost with economy

Double think in one post, NOICE.

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>>137283923
Cultural Marxism it's an umbrella term for a bunch of anti-capitalist ideologies.

Under it, 19th century syndicalism and 21th century identity politics might appear the same, but they aren't.

>>137259128
>of course cultures can't be better than another.

lol

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>>137284622
And you gladly ignore non-jewish machinations.

>>137284625
First and foremost... but not only with
Nuances, heard of them ?

>>137263122
Not what he says at all, it is a necessary stage in the contradictions of capitalism which will naturally give rise to communism.
Why does the Right have to use such degenerate arguments? Why are they so anti-intellectual? It is the philistinism of liberals and conservatives which gave rise to the emotional stupidity of the SJWs.

>>137284571
>>137285188
How are shills so blatant? Is it really that hard to post here and fit in?

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>>137285188
Let them be, thinking it's hard being angry it's easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI8ciJ0Dbsk

https://youtu.be/JVkkLDAm8I4

>>137272688
A pseudo-intellectual who not once addresses what they actually said.

>>137285105

I'm well versed, yes, they tend to show up in intellectual disciplines to obfiscate them from their real-world iterations. Case in point, your revolutionary philosopher's thoughts on economics. Kulaks? What are those, I was just criticizing the evil capitalists!

>>137286367
What's wrong with getting rid of selfish pieces of shit who refuse to give their faire share back to the community ?

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>>137286631
How do you get rid of them it's what's wrong.

I'll take that for 500.

>>137274061
No, it's pretty simple. The conspiracy argument: cultural marxism is the cause of all the West's problems becuase MUH JEWS N SJWS.
The counter-argument: The Frankfurt School never said anything they are accused of in these memes. In fact, they share points of critical discussion with the Alt-Right, particularly in regards to the culture industry and degradation of modern society.

Rightist Response: NAH THEY IZ JOOISH FORCE OF DESTRUCTION TRYIN DESTROUY UZ KANGZ.

Shut down: Okay, well, point out where they say these things in their writings.

Pretty obvious who is rational here.

Why "debunk" it?

No matter where it started or if it was non-intentional makes no difference.

We label it, so we can communicate in order to make people aware of it so that we can successfully oppose it.

We don't fix what works. That's your lot.

>>137274930
Not an argument.

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>>137286631
Down that road lies violence. I mean if you want that violence go for it but I think you might be overestimating the support for your idea of "fair share".

>>137286631

So you want the social contract, you want a legal system which draws lines that once crossed, finds one to be harming themselves, their society or their community. But you want those lines to be so strict that they strangle the free function of a society which benefits those who contribute.

I get it, but why don't you fucks just do that somewhere else? Why is Communism always a revolution? It's almost as if you're actually serving a nefarious higher motive that just so happens to superficially reflect your political beliefs, only to be killed once your ideal is manifested because you wear glasses.

>>137287721
That's called natural selection

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>>137287662
In other words. You would most likely not survive any serious attempt at taking that "fair share" since the definition of what is a "fair share" isn't universal.

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>>137259128
This is THE single most blatant wave of shills I have Ever Seen on here.
Good God
The last 2 days have been so clearly staged
Rothschild's/Soros clearly created a plan:
>Stage False Flag attack by "The Right" on some antifa cucks you paid, not realising they themselves are stunt doubles/targets
>Have CIA agent drive through crowd
>Pay shariablue to storm 4chan in your final, largest demoralisation attempt yet
You fucks are as clear as crystal.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE MODS DOING?!!!

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Anyone can learn about cultural marxism and the Frankfurt School by taking a couple days to read The Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald and The Dialectical Imagination by Martin Jay. Anyone can see the Marxist influence, anyone can see the emphasis on culture, anyone can see what they were trying to do, anyone can see that they were all Jews.

http://angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_of_Reason_(Horkheimer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_Freedom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minima_Moralia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros_and_Civilization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Dimensional_Man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Critique_of_Pure_Tolerance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-scale_(personality_test)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Critique_of_Pure_Tolerance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theses_on_the_Philosophy_of_History

So why have you been making these exact fucking threads every day for the last couple years?

Probably because you're an actual cultural marxist and you know the whole "there is no such thing as French culture", "there is no such thing as the white race", "there is no such thing as objectivity", etc. is the kind of relativist nonsense that helps you push your agenda so you try that shit every day, never convincing anyone.

>>137287948
No that's Mao having any Chinese who wear glasses killed because they're "intellectuals." It's the antithesis of natural selection.

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>>137288643
>Muh Soros.

Motherfucker we have issues and we aren't solving them that easy anywhere soon.

>>137287522
Literally this. The left appropriates words all the time for their political gain, it's tremendously effective. There's kernels of truth behind it too which makes it impervious to OP's whiny complaints. As far as I'm concerned he can go die in a Holodomor.

>>137259128
Uhh, because they *wrote* about exactly what they were planning to do. It's not a theory.

>>137289030
And he got rid of people with shitty eyesight, you're proving my point right now

>>137273729
He was Albanian, you retarded cunt.

>>137262835
>weimar was after nazis
Ok

>>137264423
>trying to reason with a kike
Good luck

>>137289685

Not the natural part. Why am I still responding to your non-sequitur posts.

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How the fuck do you expect anyone taking you seriously when the guy telling us how cultural marxism totally isn't real is an actual communist.

No one cares about your autistic channels /leftypol/.

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Cultural Marxism in action.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

The History of Political Correctness
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs

Yuri Bezmenov: Ideological Subversion
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFqShpJm_zc

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

>>137267767
Thats because they didnt. Communists used Frankfurt's developed methods to destroy a society in their own countries.

>>137290337
I'm not a communist. I'm a traditionalist/primitivist. It isn't real.

>>137290217
They weren't smart, strong or organized enough to fight back
You're not responding cause you can't make a decent argument

>>137288841
Problem with this is that he is just using a bastardised version of Marx's "On The Jewish Question".
And it's quite funny how no one on the Right ever mentions that book. Too anti-semitic for you since it suggests the triumph of Judaism in the modern world?

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>>137290566
Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

Western society it's still here.

>>137259404
>except they pinpointed the problem as capitalism and the failure of the Enlightenment rather than "da jooooz"
Sides of the same coin.

poltical correctness is linked to newspeak.
that's why everytime whites protest the media calls them nazi's. its very real but the author ignores it.
how can this guy explain that academia promotes egalitarianism and discrimination against natives? where does this comes from?
he doesn't answer alot of important questions.

also
>cultures can't be superior to others
bullshit, some cultures are better than others

OY VEY DON'T QUESTION US GOYIM

"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew.

Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew.

What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

...

The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews.

...

In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism."
- Marx

If modernity is the total emancipation of the Jews then wouldn't the people most critical of modernity be anti-semites? And wouldn't the liberals and conservatives be the ultimate Jewish cucks?

In reality, the Americans movements of MUH LIBERTE are really just zioshills trying to maintain the Order of Moloch.

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>>137291804
also, how do you explain the first misandric writings and books by first wave feminists?

some feminists explicitly say that in order to maintain a good society you must breakdown the family. where does this come from?

>>137280035

Alinsky would cringe at today's dangerhairs.

>>137290881

I wasn't referring to those opposing Mao, they weren't fighting back, they woke up one day and found out they were due for a purging because their communist leader decided it was so. Again, as stated in my post to which you failed to produce a real counterpoint, the lines governing a free functioning society turned into a deliberate effort to strangle anyone who may otherwise contribute, even those who supported the revolution.

BUT IT'S JUST ECONOMICS LOL

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>>137290710

You're defending communism and cultural Marxism in this very thread.

I wasn't talking about you either, I was talking about the guy in the video.

>>137292176

Marx literally praised Moloch in a lot of writings.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Amarxist.org+moloch+karl+marx
http://www.hourofthetime.com/1-LF/Hour_Of_The_Time_08122012-Marx_and_Satan.pdf

He was just talking out of his ass. The guy came from a long line of Rabbis, and his entire ideology is about fooling people to give all their wealth to the "state" and being robbed and having no private property.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question
>Marx writes that he intended to support a petition of the Jews to the Provincial Assembly. He explains that with the fact that while he dislikes Judaism as a religion, he also remains unconvinced by Bauer's view (that the Jews should not be emancipated before they abandon Judaism). However, he also clarifies in the letter that his support of the petition is merely tactical, to further his efforts at weakening the Christian state. Also he was himself a Zioshill. His mentor was Moses Hess, the founder of European Zionism, and the USSR supported the Zionist project strongly until the 50s or 60s. Stalin helped create Israel.
>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

>Winston Churchill exposes Jewish forces behind Communism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNcERXGcpEY

>>137292413
Their vaginas must seep corrosive acid.

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>some whites are better then others
>because they are ((degenerate))

good luck uniteing the whites behind one opinion lel

>>137293914
They made very clear that they don't take kindly the men aproach to cultural science, and after witnessing this thread I can't blame them.

I recently read Marcuse's essay on tolerance. It was pure shit and not something I'd want to read again, but it did explain anti-fas actions in Charlottesville and elsewhere.

They are genuinely afraid that if they don't stop their opposition from speaking out; it'll lead to an American Reich and anudda' Shoah.

The essence of cultural Marxism is intellectual sabotage of their enemy's philosophical beliefs so it cannot be deployed against them.

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>>137295204

They were mostly Jews and their useful idiots who had some primary goals: destroy the institution of marriage, destroy the nuclear family unit, get more women in the workforce for cheap labor and so they could be taxed, pit women against men in an eternal struggle that destabilizes society, demonize male authority, masculinity and femininity, get women to stop having kids, and promote promiscuity and degeneracy. And they succeeded because of useful idiots, apologists and enablers.

Betty Friedan, Sonia Pressman, and Gloria Steinem, Freud and his cousin-or-something Edward Bearnaise, Andrea Dworkin, Rosa Luxemburg were all among the big feminist proponents from its beginning, and because women are easier to emotionally manipulate, a lot of them fell for it. And the modern SJW movement is the fruit of it. The Jewish feminist Susan Sontag, (originally named Susan Rosenblatt), stated: “The white race is the cancer of humanity.”

You'd do well to read Eros and Society by Herbert (((Marcuse))), one of the founders of the Frankfurt School. That book was what started the "free love" movement in the '60s, and it is RIFE with Marxist, anti-West propaganda.

I wouldn't say it was the Frankfurt School that is responsible, but rather Marcuse. He fused Marx and Freud in Eros and Civilization, creating the ideological cocktail that we call Cultural Marxism. His beliefs created the foundation for the New Left, and the Wikipedia page for the New Left considers him the father of it

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>>137259262
/thread

does it really matter whether its purported origin is true? if something does exist that fits the description of cultural marxism, why not just call it cultural marxism?

>>137293454
I never defended communism. I defended the idea that one should argue against the true position of the other. This includes their ideal perception of things as well as contradictions or mistakes that can be seen in their arguments, not just opinions based on feeling. The latter is useless and degenerate.

Schools teach you to hate communism, right wingers happen to be children that think everyone is le evil boogeyman that wants to kill you and give your wife to le negro

>>137281654
He saw it happening.

>>137261160
Because he rightly saw consermerism
as undignified and inhuman. Just because someone says one wrong thing doesn't make everything they say wrong. You can be perfectly correct about certain problems and wildly wrong about your solution to them.

>>137266804
its fucking fantasy, what do you think happened for hunderads of years, the only reason why we hear of degeneracy now a days and in the last 50-100 years is because we have people to report it, and the only reason people make a big deal out of it is because of around 200 years or so people were good at hiding it.
We have this small period in history with in the last 200 years or so where suddenly people seem to be more moral and upstanding, its a fucking fantasy, a lie and nostalgia fags eat it up.

What would you even say is the most moral time in history? because i can point to dozens of other things that happened at the same time that would imply other wise.

Time moves forward and nothing changes.

People have always acted like animals and people will continue to act like animals.

>>137265619
Holy fuck do you think that random assortment of meme phrases actually amounted to something intelligent? Why are Nazbol posters consistently the worst?
Put down the bong, and try again in a few days.

Why are Americans so anti-intellectual? An embarrassing breed of bovine.

>>137301771
You are a fucking ape.

>>137266987
Yes it's cause corporations and stuff.
Rich people.
1%!!!!!

>>137267786
Why does Leftypol always do this? You fucks just show up in a thread, call everyone who disagrees with you stupid, make ZERO arguments and then declare yourselves victors?

>>137301464
there is a difference between being part of degeneracy or accepting it and outright promoting it.

there are many people whom contribute to degeneracy in an explicit manner. china is a relatively modern country and the amount of degeneracy is low because their sense of national pride is strong and they simply have a different culture, so i don't think capitalism and exposure are causing degeneracy, not by alot.

>>137282912
>Why should they call it a conspiracy theory?
are you claiming that they don't do so? have you checked the wiki page for Cultural Marxism recently?

>>137286631
Define 'fair share' my dude

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>>137299595

Okay let's address one of your only points of substance in this thread:

>In fact, they share points of critical discussion with the Alt-Right, particularly in regards to the culture industry and degradation of modern society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_W._Adorno#Music
>>However, while the critique from the right emphasized moral degeneracy ascribed to sexual and racial influences within popular culture, Adorno located the problem not with the content, but with the objective realities of the production of mass culture and its effects

Marcuse, Adorno, Horkheimer, etc. weren't actually concerned at all about the content of the media they were criticizing, they were talking about the production (seize the means of production) and its effects, and how Marxism would somehow fix it.

This is identical to what Marx did in the Communist Manifesto. Point out how all the flaws in capitalism and current economics, and use it to justify a Marxist takeover, which is even worse than "capitalism". The Frankfurt School weren't actually concerned at all about stopping the media from causing social degradation, they were only interested in criticizing it to justify a Marxist takeover., with more emphasis on culture than economics. This is what Marxists do, tap into resentment or problems people have with the current society, then use it to justify a revolution and create an authoritarian regime under their control, then the useful idiots who helped them get shot.

>>137302970
If you're a commufaggot, all of it's the fair share.

>>137302970
Everyone that earns more than him isn't paying their "fair share"

>>137272982
>What parts of my self-published bondage epic do you find yourself disagreeing most with?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WTQFDZkdVs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WTQFDZkdVs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WTQFDZkdVs&feature=youtu.be

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>>137299761

In my schools we had:

>no mention of the German Revolution
>no mention of Bavarian Socialist Republic
>no mention of Communist crimes in Spanish civil war
>no mention of Holodomor
>all the slaughters and genocides done in the USSR hardly touched upon
>no mention of Pol Pot
>ambiguous whether communism helped cause the world wars
>two minutes spent on Great Leap Forward
>no mention of Cultural Revolution
>several days on the Holocaust

Also no one is taught the role of Jews in promoting communism, and everyone is taught that Nazism is the worst evil in the world even though Marxism killed over 100M+ people which isn't even close to worst estimations for "fascism".

https://www.academia.org/self-identifying-marxist-professors-outnumber-conservatives-as-college-professors/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/6/liberal-professors-outnumber-conservatives-12-1/
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/10/24/survey-finds-professors-already-liberal-have-moved-further-left

It's just that after all the failures of Marxism after the 60s, a lot them realized openly promoting communism wasn't sustainable so they started promoting neo-Marxism of the Frankfurt School variety.

>>137302428
>Why does Leftypol always do this?
what else could they do?
besides, they aren't leftists. the style of tumblerinas gone mad with postmodernism is easy to imitate, so trolls jump on it. all "leftists" ITT are just pretending. kind of like flat earthers and alleged christians.

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>>137303941

It's considered acceptable to wave communist flags all around, but one Nazi flag and suddenly it's a huge national heritage.

That tells you how bad the media bias and educational system is in the West.

Also forgot: very few people mention that Nelson Mandela was actually a communist terrorist and the ANC is a communist party, yet he's still praised as a hero.

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>>137304817
>national heritage.

outrage*

Depressing to see that the average /pol/ frequenter relies so much on infographs.