Can we remove this flag? It's fucking retarded, this flag

>>137230493
How about you remove yourself
From this world u fucking retard

>>137230493
i agree op

>>137230493
Can we remove the flag I'm using?

It screams "I go on 4chan and I'm retarded but I want to stand out"

Why don't you read Jünger, Spengler and Strasser before you discredit national bolshevism.

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>>137230493
Can we remove this flag?
It's fucking retarded, this flag yells "I'm an ancap but I don't want people to know I'm a retard"

>>137232514
lolbergs don't read.

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>>137232514
This.

>lets dismiss flags of other ideologies because I don't particularly like it.

Right now there is no other flag to represent ideologies that can be considered "Social Nationalist"

Would like to see the black front flag tho.

>>137232514
NatBol and Strasserism is not the same.

>>137230493
i want to remove it, but mostly because nazbol posters are 110% of the time shitposting retards.
imagine all the gay ass LARPing posts done under nazi flags, add to this some marxism and, with a sprinkle of extra delusion, and you have the nazbol poster. get them off this board.

>>137232755
This. I also would like a black front flag even though I'm not technically a Strasserite (anymore) I still sympathize with all of my socnat comrades and they should be represented.

I mean, we've got two fucking lolberg flags (ancap and gadsden). Two fascist flags (natsoc and fascist) we should have more socnat flags.

>>137232514
>>137232582
>>137232755
kys desu

>>137230493
Hey fuck you and your little snake that screams "I am edgy" flag.

>>137233022
You first queer.
>>137232973
>lolberg doesn't believe in freedom of speech
hypocrite.

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>>137230493
There is nothing more retarded, than gadsden flag.

>>137233102
i believe in right of private association. and i don't want to privately assiociate with you. go back to leftypol cuckboy.

>>137233102
stop projecting faggot
also 6th period is starting
you wouldn't want to get an F in PE again wouldn't you?

We should have more flags, not less.

>>137233068
The nazbol flag is extremely edgy, at least like 5 times edgier than the Gadsden.

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>>137233232
Guess what fag, this board isn't your private property. So I'll tread wherever the fuck I want nigger.
>>137233284
>6th period
>doesn't understand that not everyone is on the same timezone as his non relevant country
>says I'm projecting when he's clearly projecting.

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>>137233455
>i don't understand what an insult is
you know where to go back to faggit

Almost 2 years of communist flags at lefty rallies: NO ONE CARES

One day of nazi flags: OMFGF TERRORISTS

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>>137233455
hahah oh wow! look everyone! he posted the snake getting stepped on! wow, that's a new one. this is essentially the leftist equivalent of a helicopter meme and only reinforces my point of nazbol posters being low-effort retards.
why don't you go back to 8gag, i hear they love those kinds of sick memes over there.

>>137233586
You first balkanigger.

imagine being so subhuman you're a commie/national cuckshalist or whatever that retarded made up idealogy is

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>>137233665
>didn't refute my points
>thinks his faggy snek and helicopter memes aren't more worn out than a 2 dollar whore.
I'll post another one just to raise your blood pressure.

>>137233777
>as opposed to muh south will rise again
Your flag will be made illegal in the next 20 years, sweetie.

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>>137233777
god numerals confirmed that all these larping faggots should go to plebbit instantly

>>137232973
Liebergtardians need to go back to pebbit, this is a NatSoc board.

>>137233925
"""""""""Macedonia"""""""" isn't a real country. You are stealing the name of a Greek province.

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>ITT

>>137233996
>>137234047
These.

>>137233877
Just like yours is already is commiecuck

L O L

>>137234146
Shouldn't you be fucking your sister billy bob?

>>137233777
>redneck retard being retarded
You need to be atleast 18 to be here, inbred faggot

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>>137234018
oh really
based on what argument?
also continue hiding behind that larpflag gypsy mongrel
even "fake" countries are more patriotic than larping degenerates

>>137234146
>NazBol flag isn't illegal anywhere except Russia

L O L

>>137234389
>>137233212
I love the fact that you're shitposting with their flag. Top bantz.
>>137234446
>implying I'm a gypsy
>this is coming from a nation that is basically a Yugoslav reject.
My country could wipe the floor with yours.

>>137234146
That's a good thing. Nazbol and Strasserism are the most politically incorrect ideologies in existance, leftists think we are nazis and rightists think we are communists. We threaten not only the cultural hegemony of the jews via traditionalism, but their economic dominance through our opposition to usury, insurance and rent exploitation.

>>137232755
>>137232514

"National Bolshevism" is an oxymoron x100
Communism is inherently globalist

>>137234146
Nobody is tearing down the Lenin statue in Seattle, and no one ever will.

>>137234507
That's because they are a joke. It's like seeing a short bus.

>>137234684
This. NazBols and Strasserites are the most enlightened ideologies. Low IQ cucks will never understand this.

>>137234769
Well yeah, you should know all about being on a short bus LOL

>>137230493
To be fair, nazis are socialists / communists too.

>>137234760
I'd love to see it stay up just to piss of autistic libertarians.

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>>137234614
>i-i'm not a gypsy i promise
t. elvis dequan stevenson
your country can't stop wiping the floor with itself let alone start wiping the floor with another country

>>137230493
its a meme ideology for sure

it doesn't exist in real life, theres has never been a "Naz Bol" party

>>137234742
>globalist
Globalisation's political offspring didn't exist until the 1970's.

Communism is inter-nationalist, that is between nations.

National bolshevism wants to reaffirm the role of the national state and national rebirth in socialism.

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>>137234971
>tfw I watched you and some other balkan jew talk about being jewish one time

>>137234873
And Ancringes are retarded

>>137235022
Communism is the definition of globalist you good goy

are you illiterate or just sub 80 IQ?

>>137233855
there was nothing to refute, are you retarded?

btw this site is someones private property so if they feel like it, they can remove that flag and you ban you if they want. OP is just appealing to them in order to persuade them to do so

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>>137235037
Brother!!!!

>>137235037
that's weird
i have never met a jew in my life
never seen one either
those steppe niggers really did holohoax most of them here

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National Bolshevik is a pure revolution force aimed at removing the jews and capitalists. No compromises, when all other means of struggle and political actions proved useless.

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>>137234971
>he doesn't even have nukes
>doesn't even have a coast for a navy
>outdated shit planes
>outdated shit equipment
>closely related to Muslim Albanians and Turks
Really tickles my pickle.

>>137234991
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party

>>137235132
Name one communist country with open borders.

>>137234856
That was so reddit and weak I don't even know how to respond.

>>137235054
nazis can never explain their economic model

>>137232973
this
NatBol and the templar flags are just a shield so people can shitpost without anyone seeing where they're from

>>137235227
>o-once dequan finishes being my bull i-i'll phone the pentagon you dirty white p-person!
>i'll show you how the g-great U S of A deals with white countries
>goes out
>gets shot by a nigger

>>137235178
Your country is the government's private property and taxation is rent.

Checkmate

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>>137235178
My point was that this board isn't your personal personal property you dumb faggot. Therefore your "right" to private association doesn't apply here.
>>137235372
>Fake Macedonians
>White
Pick one.

>>137234951
The current kinetic conflict in the world may be globalist vs. nationalist, but I believe the long term political confict is between modernists (Liberals, Progressives, United Nations, humans rights law) and hyper-modernists (ChiComs, NazBols, Eurasianism). Even the most informed Alt-Rightists seem ignorant of anything beyond the American historical nexus.

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>>137230493

It´s the only flag that matters shitbetarian.

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>>137235472
t.

>>137235524
Jews are 0% white

you're note even human at this point oven dodger

>>137232945
This. Read Limonov if you want to learn about National Bolshevism.

>>137234742
Are you retarded
Globalism didn't even exist a few decades ago

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>>137235558
i think you're retarded lad

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>>137235487
This is a top tier post.
>>137235524
And yet a nation of mongrels could still destroy destroy you in one fell swoop. Kind of like a teenager popping a zit, or someone slapping a mosquito off of their arm.

>>137230493
Fucking lolberts and ancaps are 3 times the cancer you should be removed ya neckbeard,permavirgin faggot.

>>137235683
The central point of Marxism is globalist

literally kill yourself brainlet, read a fucking book before you post you subhuma nigger S M H

>>137235132
Yeah Cuba is globalist!

Retard

>>137235429
LMAO. How did the state appropriated the country? Was it a just method or the state gang just declared than it owns everything because it can use violence. Is violence a just way of taking ownership of something? Then any robber can claim just owneship of its loot

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>>137235704
>m-my dad is stronger than your d-dad!!!one
the absolute state of burgers right now

>>137235698
I've only seen anti-white, anti-right wing posts from Macedonia, I've also watched a Macedonia kike and Montenegro kike talking about Jew shit together in a thread, you're probably him because you post the same way.

>>137235704
Bolsheviks have no claim to this country you cunt.

Letting people choose a meme flag was a fucking mistake.

>>137235744
La Marx never said anything about Globalism you dumb American

Venezuela or Cuba are the anti thesis of Globalism

>>137235260
>>137235780

The entire POINT of Communism is the destruction of nationalities and the institution of global marxism

how are you this uneducated?

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>>137235814
At least I have a dad. Your dad died in a fucking civil war. LOL.

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>>137235828
>you are one of the 200 jews that inhabit your country of 2 million people
>i-i saw you being anti-american
racemixing really fucked your iq dequan

>>137235915
>HURR NO IMMIGRANTS WENT TO THIS REALLY POOR SHITTY DICTATORSHIPS IN BEANER AMERICA THAT MEANS THEY WEREN"T GLOBALIST

no one wanted to move there because beaners are incapable of creating a functioning society lmfao

>>137235867
>implying nutsocs do.

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>>137230493

>>137235945
Source?
The soviet union was more nationalist than America at any point of history

Recent example north Korea, closed borders and strong national identity

Why are Americans so brainwashed?

>>137235993
>talk like a jew
>act like a jew
>be a jew

not my problem you're a yid, deal with your own insecurities chaim

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>>137235988
no he didn't you stupid faggot
almost no macedonians served in the serb-kosovo and serb-bosnian war
american """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""'''education"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
t.

>>137236072
>side with chinks, viets, gooks, afghanis against other white countries
>not globalist

holy shit, kill yourself

>>137236150
>Yugoslavia no longer exists
>Claims it's not dead
Are you gypsy niggers really this dumb? You are not a real country. If anything half your country should go to the Serbs and the other half to the Greeks. Also, I don't care about the pathetic history of your eastern European shithole.

>>137236040
You must have a low IQ.
If you take a look at Yugoslavia for example which was called the Paris of the Balkan because everyone wanted to live there, before America bombed them to a shot hole.
America is a dictatorship where dumb hillbillies fight with niggers on open streets in 2017. America was a mistake

>>137235945
>destruction of nationalities
Only if these are artificial and not conducive to the well-being of workers. Marxism lauds the local and the parochial in the face of americanisation, standardisation and global consumer society.

>>137236072
>The soviet union was more nationalist than America at any point of history
The USSR was incredibly repressive against its own nationalists, so no, it wasn't. Shit, the USSR was so ashamed of its own nationalism that they used the word 'patriotism' instead, meaning service to the state/political community, rather than the nation/organic community.

>>137236093
consider suicide you low iq mongrel

>>137236167
The reason those countries are against a white country is because said white country is meddling in their affairs.

I don't like China anymore then you do, after all their soulless globalist capitalism is a threat to my people, but perhaps attempting to create proxy states at the borders of these countries sets them against you.

>Using meme flags

>>137235945
So, firstly you cannot point to a communist country with open borders. Secondly your argument makes the nazis also globalists because they didn't have any national borders within their empire / occupied territories. Communists are strong nationalists, and nationalist are collectivists and more often than not communists.

>>137236167
>being this dumb racist
I don't think you even understand nationalist socialism or you would know that Hitler had chinks, blacks, Indians, viets and spics fight for him under SS flag

Go back to the_d

>>137230493
https://youtu.be/ACYcWNV3yEU?t=102

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>>137236286
i never claimed that dequan
also
>i don't know history and i'm proud of it

>>137236335
That's because nationalism is connected to Nazis. But soviet patriotism was nothing else that the preservation of the Russian people, especially under Stalin

>>137235429
There would be a conflict of interest, how can an individual own their land yet the state also own it? If the state owned it, they wouldn't be required to provide reparations when seizing it, but they do.

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>>137236471
I care about relevant history. Not the history of a "nation" that will probably be assimilated by Greece in the next 20 years.

>>137236423
Good point
Thst American is truly stupid..

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>>137236167

>other white countries

like Chang Kai-Sek`s China, or South Vietnam, or even maybe afghan mojaheds sponsored by (((Reagan)))

>>137230493
Nazbol is completely viable ideology, unlike 'don step on le snehke xD'

This thread shows again how ignorant Americans are.

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>>137236623
>i'm proud to be retarded

>>137236549
>preservation of the Russian people
>under russian culture hating georgian jew
Americans should be range banned

>>137237049
>self-hating
If it wasn't for Stalin, the Russians would have been genocided by Germany

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>>137236969
Except nothing I said was incorrect. Just because Macedonians didn't fight in the Yugo civil war that doesn't change that fact that Yugoslavia was your parent country and it no longer exists. You will just be a pathetic footnote in history. While my nation has been immortalized in granite and stone.

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>>137236070
>Let's remove the anti-Jew from the Nazi flag like good goyim.
NazBol is pure cuckery.

>>137237331
Le snek kek XD
No one outside of Texas in the world knows about your meme snek ideology

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>>137237251
>he's still going
>and he's still retarded
also this is my last you
not replying to 60 iq degenerates anymore

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CONQUER LAND
REBUILD THE EMPIRE
BOMB THE UKRAINE

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>>137237451
Good. That's just an acknowledgement that your nation is trash.

>>137237459
Ukraine also isn't a real country tovarisch. It is rightful Russian soil.

>>137230493
Strasserism and National Bolshevism are the only ideologies that make sense

>>137236549
Are you backwards?
The soviets promoted miscegenation.
Had the USSR continued its existence for long enough they would've become one race of balto-slavicturkomongolian mutts.

>>137237183
No they wouldn't have, see all the anti-communist Russians fighting with Nazis. My last point still stands, your americans really need to go for good

>>137230493
Nope. Left nationalism is probably more widespread in the whole world than right wing one, and even Trump's programe was veri like traditional left ones.

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>>137238015
A lot of left authoritarians also voted for him.

>>137238015
Left nationalism is no different than civic nationalism.

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>>137237863
Fun fact. One of Yuri Bezmenov's reason for leaving the USSR was because the soviet government wouldn't allow him to marry an indian girl. He then shills in America because he thinks it much less racist than the USSR.

>>137238015
>left nationalism

soooooo the democrats?

>>137238333
>democrats
>left wing
>nationalists
pick one and only one.
Democrats are center right at best.

>>137238333
Soooo no.

>>137230493

Can we just remove all flags and keep it as country only? Mods fucked up with the decision to use flags based on ideologies/beliefs

>>137238514
I like the flags. Canadians (and Aussies such as yourself) get shat on even when you make a good post. People can't just dismiss arguments because of country anymore.
>inb4 you're a Canadian
I'm an American as I showed earlier in this thread when I posted without my flag.

>>137230493
Flag selection should be removed again, it's retarded. The only purpose it serves is for Canadese, Swedish and Indians to hide their flags. Nothing more.

>>137238514
We should be able to upload our own flag icons in addition to image posting. The problem is too few flags.

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>mfw the anti-commie Hermann Rauschning literally fucking fled to America and renounced Nazism once he sat down with Hitler and realized what a Marxist twat he was

>>137238752
That would be fucking amazing.

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>>137238291
His problem was he lacked the stomach to kill his leftist Indian buddies on the day of the rope, so he became a Christian.

>>137238819
Liberty and natural rights are beautiful lies.

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>>137239002
kill yourself collectivist scum

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>>137239136
You liberals have more of a talent for self-harm than we do.

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>>137239136
save the rest of the world the trouble and just kill each other, please

>>137239136
He's right you nigger. Rights don't exist. You have privileges. Power comes from the barrel of a gun and whoever has the most organized guns determines who has rights and who does not. There's nothing stopping the government from suspending the constitution and declaring marshal law tomorrow.

>>137235988

Thanks, son!

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Niet.

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>>137239392
No problem old chap.

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>>137239339
>needing a government to grant you rights/privileges

I bet you call other people cucks as well. Bet you grab your ankles for bwig dwaddy government

>>137239638

Just remember, lad. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. Follow your dreams and passions.

I like that flag you crypto faggot.

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>>137239712
>these rights are inalienable
Can you prove this?
>uh... g-god said so

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>>137239267
*classical liberals

don't associate me with modern liberal scum who are just laid the foundation for Nazi retards

>>137239338
why not get your goosestepping friends to kill us?

lord knows you couldn't do it yourself, without the collective

>>137233212
triggered?

>>137239712
>he honestly thinks people are born with """""rights"""""
There's no such thing as "God given" rights you dumb nigger.
1. God is an unfalsifiable hypothesis
2. You aren't born with rights. "Rights" are not something naturally occurring in nature, they are a man made construct. If you want "rights" you have to earn them with blood. They won't just be fucking granted to you because you think they are inalienable.

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>>137239953
>>137240003
>implying I am christfaggot

>>137230493
can we remove this Kikestain flag as well?

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>>137239746
Aye.

>>137230493
How about we remove all the meme flags? They're all retarded and are just an excuse to hide leafs and other undesirable cunts like India.

>>137240003
>Communists says there is no such thing as human rights, other than whatever the goverment decides to give them in the moment

well this was a surprise

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>>137239712
He never said they come from government. He said they come from cold steel.

>>137239963
>t-that's not REAL liberalism
I WAS referring to classical liberalism. You all adhere to untenable axioms.

>>137240121
It doesn't matter because the entire basis for "inalienable" rights is that they are granted to us by God. So if you're not a Christfag than you really have no reason to believe in the concept of rights. You should believe in the concept of blood and violence if you want to keep your "rights" or get new ones.
>>137240250
NatSocs often say the same thing and they're right. There is no such thing as rights.

>>137236167
Then by your logic the USA and the British Empire were the most globalist nation to ever walk this earth


Kys branlet

Communist countries can be more nazionalist han any democracy.
Ever heqrd of the Iron curtain spastic?

>>137239963
And because you're too unlettered to understand:

Liberalism logically necessitates democracy, and a universal voting franchise. A universal voting franchise leads to the rule of women. The rule of women leads to the destruction of civilization. Liberalism is unworkable.

>>137240284
>He never said they come from government. He said they come from cold steel.
This. People will always get offended when you trample upon golden calf's they have worshiped their entire lives. You can believe in not shitting on people's basic human dignity but that doesn't mean that someone won't shit on yours because you're apparently born with "rights".

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>>137239963
>lord knows you couldn't do it yourself, without the collective
Lord knows you wouldn't defend your private property without employing McSecurityServices™, so what's your point?

>>137240121
Guess you don't actually believe in inalienable rights like the founding fathers did, then. For you they're just an "idea"

Add Strasser, remove Kekistan, add EVROPA

>>137235730
>using permavirgin as an insult

You first, nu-/pol/ reddit leftover.

>>137230493
No, let ants be ants.

>>137240570
>Guess you don't actually believe in inalienable rights like the founding fathers did, then. For you they're just an "idea"

Careful. You're going to hurt his tiny brain. They'll cry MUH classical liberalism all day, and not even admit or understand that it's all based on Christian metaphysics. Seriously, find a single political philosophical patristic on liberalism that wasn't reasoned using Christian axioms. Paine edged on atheist liberalism and he died in shame because of it, and he was also a proto SJW because of it.

>>137240175
I'd support this. Shitposting has increased significantly with custom flags.

>>137240817
Aha incu un ratat care nu a vazut decat pizda lu masa can s-a nascut si nimic de atunci.
Also leddit spacing calling me nu-/pol/...kek.Lolberg faggot.

>>137240981
You know neither of the languages you are speaking. I am a fascist capitalist, cunt, but I appreciate the assumption.

The text looks better when you space between the ideas. You may also be a roastie with that set of insults, have I triggered your flip flaps?

>>137232514
Tell me a difference between national socialism and national bolshevism

>>137232514
Why don't you gas yourself

remove all the flags
this place has become a fucking larp fest
and for fucking canadians mostly

>>137241204
>fascist
>capitalist
Pick one. Fascism has always historically rejected both communism and capitalism.

Why was it added in the first place, i don't fucking get it. It's a dead forced meme ideology that has less followers in Russia than obscure New Age cults.

>>137241361
It has, that's right, but how could I call my ideology other than "reactionary" though? It's similar to Pinochet's.

>>137235945
>still can't name a communist country with open borders
loving every laugh

>>137241625
Well I suppose you could call yourself a national capitalist?

>>137240909
>They'll cry MUH classical liberalism all day, and not even admit or understand that it's all based on Christian metaphysics.
Deep down they know none of it actually has anything to do with their ideology, that's why.
All the talking about individualism and rights and voluntary association is just to mask the reality that what they want is a system where the people with the most money can own and control everyone else without any resistance allowed.
They don't see themselves as useful idiots for those people because they genuinely believe they'll get to become one of them if they "just work hard enough!"

>>137235334
Can't refute that argument

>>137241314
National Bolshevism is not strictly race-based. It lacks Aryan-mysticism. It does not promote a single national Leader.

>>137241748
It doesn't ward off the normies and roasties that much. Fascism involves a misogynistic edge, this is why I prefer the term, and it also involves social unity - the sheep working for a common goal, the bettering of the Fatherland.

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>>137230577
TSK TSK, NO D&C KIKES, NEW BREAD
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>>137241865
Well, if you want to call yourself that I suppose you can but it just comes off as intellectually dishonest. idk, I just don't like it when people throw around terms like "fascist", "communist", "dictator", etc... etc... without using their proper meaning. It's a bit like when people call Antifa "fascists" or Obama a "communist". With that said, do whatever you want senpai.

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>>137241749
Or its just fair?
Lets let a lunatic dictator own everything and everyone and kill everyone how he pleases?

Classical liberalism is darwinism, it automatically purges weak degenerates like commies and handicapped retards.
Its unfair if you were born a retard or believe in a stupid ideology or culture.
But thats how nature works

>>137230493
>Nat Socs copies asian symbols and commie colours.

wew

>>137237863
No they didn't. They promoted "brotherhood of peoples" but at the same time had very strict migration laws unlike modern (((capitalist))) countries.

>>137242718
Evolution is phenomenon of populations, not individuals. Individual competition is insignificant compared to the competition between entire genomes. Collectivist systems are Darwinian. We're seeing individualist becoming extinct in real time. Statism like what we see in China will exist long after the west has fallen to barbarism.

We need a commie flag with the star of david on it.

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>>137230493
Kill yourself.

>>137242718
>>137243126
Even the United States (Individualism: The Country) was at its political zenith when the country was 90% white, and mono-cultural with the young inculcated in ideological training seminars at mandatory public schools. It was rather collectivist, and not tolerant of culturally subversive ideas or troublesome outsiders.

>>137242718
It's only fair in a fantasy alternate reality where life itself is fair. Otherwise you're just playing pretend.
>Lets let a lunatic dictator own everything and everyone and kill everyone how he pleases?
What ideology advocates that?

>Classical liberalism is darwinism
If it were, it wouldn't have gone extinct.

>But thats how nature works
Mankind created civilization specifically to counteract nature.
Subhumans always shy back to jungle law because they never evolved the cognitive skills to cope with civilization.
It's not your fault, but that's not enough to justify you being treated as equal to us.

>>137230493
Not wanting to fit in is the same as wanting to fit in, you're not fooling anyone

Fundamentally I care about the preservation of culture and race. Two things are required for this.
>Nationalism
>Destruction of capitalism in favor of socialism
/pol/ generally understands the first one, but not the second one. Your picture of liberalism is incomplete when you don't understand how capitalism destroys any sense of community people have and replaces real culture with consumer culture, turning people into narcissistic self-gratifying zombies.

>>137235792
All land ownership is founded on violence and claiming plots through force you moron.

>>137236580
Jointly owned, the same way a monarch owns land and divides it amongst lords.

>>137244865
High IQ Japbro gets it.

>>137232514
On why you started slaughtering christians because jews told you?
You are a cancer, there's nothing good about you.

>>137244865
Good post.

Boggles me that americans can't understand that capitalism is perpetuating the influx of immigrants to the country. First it was the african slaves white land-owners exploited and profited off, nowadays it is the mexicans.

There are similarities to the situation in Europe as well, eastern europeans move around and do all the shit work for the bourgeoisie. European families don't make enough children because they're either more interested in consumer culture and luxury goods or they simply don't have enough time or resources to support a family. The results are labour shortages and the state then encourages migrants from the third world to come in and replace them.

Global capitalism is inhuman.

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>>137246338
Gnon is ultimately an unstoppable force, but the only thing that can control capitalism and channel its creative energies is The State. Notably, modern Chinese theory places Communism at an indeterminate distant point, essentially delaying it indefinitely until the technological capacity of capitalism exhausts itself. IMO, China is the most hyper-modern state in the world, and the closest to a viable response to the Problem of Modernity that has yet been made. They simultaneously accept and promote the power of capitalism, while recognizing the need to prevent the behemoth from devouring the state and the people. I think they could technically be described as an officially accelerationist country.. It's not accidental that Land choses to live there.

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>>137236549
>soviet patriotism was nothing else that the preservation of the Russian people
i would say TOP KEK but I won't due to respect towards my russian brothers who died during communist regime
i will just say, you are retarded brainwashed commie nigger faggot jew chad virgin
fuck you

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>>137247181
Yes, Land was the one who made me conscious of the trajectory and nature of Capital. Everything is subsumed and instrumentalised under the thrall of Capitalism.

Jünger's idea of the nation as a war-machine has parallels.

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>>137247495
You must be at least 18 to use this website

Nazbol makes no sense. It was founded as a publicty stunt. Marxism is in opposition to Nationalism. You fags are thinking of Strasserism

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>>137249396
Ya think you're hot shit, dontcha?!

>>137236167
>Side with Afghanis

Burger history education. Next time burger will claim that it were Soviets that financed Bin Laden and Al-Quaeda.

Also:

>against other white countries

"They were barbarically shotting down our planes that were peacefully bombing their cities"

America is a cancer and Khruscev should've nuked it during Carribean crisis.
He'd do a favour both to the world and especially to the Europe.

>>137249624
It doesn't. All of the Bolsheviks opposed nationalism.

Nazbol is such a retarded self-contrafictory ideology. Only Russians could be dumb as fuck as to get drunk and come up with such a batshit non-sensical ideology.

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>>137246338

I have studied migration and ethnic conflict. You are right. Not only did capitalism cause migration of africans slaves into the americas, it was responsible for a lot of migration in Asia that have created ethnic conflicts that last till today.

The migration of Chinese into south east Asia. The migration of Indians/Bengalis into Burma. The migration of indians to fiji and Africa. All these led to ethnic conflicts which have persisted to this day. Thanks to capitalism.

>>137236335

> against its own nationalists, so no, it wasn't.

Most nationalists in Russia is of the "Hurr durr, Hitler will save us and do all the work and give us freedom because we're white" niggers, so good riddance.

Last time Russian (((nationalism))) was not tied with the bootlicking to the "civilized west" was, I joke you not, during the opolcheniye of Minin and Pozharsky.

After that - either the (((nobility))) and intelligentsia that won't even bother to learn Russian, or outright genetic scum pretending they're white people while spreading their arse for anglos and krauts and EVEN japs.

>>137230493
It helps in deciding which posts not to read.

>>137237876

>see all the anti-communist Russians fighting with Nazis.

>What are useful idiots.

Hitler quite openly admitted to Russians being inferior race. You can try to whitewash the Fuhrer as much as you want but fact remains a fact: Every Russian faggot supporting Hitler is either a dumb fuck, a white nigger, or a fag that will whore away his country for, how Fegelein put it, "a few deutchemarks, bottle of vodka, and some whores", so, quintessentially is not different from a Jew.

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>>137238291

Even more fun fact, Bezmenov played full "Muslims dindu nuffin it's soviet subversion" referring to, apparently, bombing of embassy in the Beirut.

>>137232514
>spengler
Had nothing to do with Nazbol
>strasser
Kike apologist, deserved to die
Like you

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>>137250144
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism

>>137250304
You clearly didn't study hard enough. How exactly did capitalism cause the transatlantic slave trade when it was a mercantile system presaging capitalism? And how does it differ from slaves being moved from one place to another, as has happened throughout history, just because the technology was available to love them further afield? You claim that immigration was caused by capitalism but you have no answer as to why all of these things happened precapitalism. Nazbol is for the biggest fags of them all

>>137244865
Western civilization wants to have the cake and eat it. Especially (((nationalists))).

From what I've seen, they don't consider Jewish practices (Usury, coercion, nepotism, corruption, degeneracy) bad as long as it's white/local does it. They're only and only triggered by kikes doing this shit.

But then again, NatSocs and "White nationalists" are basically niggers completely with "we dindu nuffin, how dare savages and untermensches hate us and not be our cannon fodder for white civilizaton".

>>137230493
I'd like to remove commie and nazi faggotry altogether. Fuck you authoritarian niggers.

>nationalist internationalists
Fucking retarded.

>>137242032
>Divide and conquer

>on /pol/

First sign of a shill that wants to silence all the opposition to a hugbox. Fuck of to Reddit or voat, you can have your pretty echo chambers here.

>>137251879
>fuck dah police!

>>137251798
Fucking hell lol this is the dumbest post I've ever seen on this board

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>>137244865
>Destruction of capitalism in favor of socialism
>Socialism
Socialism has done nothing but feed niggers, mudshits with their 15 member families, waste tax money in foreign aid, cuck TV propaganda, fund worthless unproductive college degrees such as gender/women studies and unproductive programs, tax people to dirt poverty levels and distribute the wealth on shitskins money sinks.
Repeat until your country collapses and claim it wasn't "real socialism"
If anyone needs to be mass murdered, those are Socialists.

>>137252555
>socialism does these things
Cool, now explain HOW it's socialism that does those things.

>>137252555
ah yes

Workers possessing the means of production means a welfare state and identity studies.

>>137251923
>how dare european countries co-operate on some levels?

It's not a contradiction. You can preserve your nation and work with others.

>>137254248
I bet you're not even European.

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>>137230493
agreed 100%

>>137252161
>white CEO fucks people over
Nah, it's just basic economics. He deserves his profit. Those brown people are bad workers anyways.
>Jewish CEO fucks people over
FUCKING JOOOS, they're subverting Western Civilisation®

>>137254477
Well, I am.

>>137232755

>tfw no black front flag
>tfw forced to use Hitlerite flag

Nazbol posters are the best posters on this board desu
Whenever I see an abhorrent post from a meme flag 9/10 times it is a lolbert or ancap flag

>>137238244
>economics divided as liberalism/conservatism

wat

it should be liberalism / socialism

>>137239712
no you a need a government with a legal system and a standing army to defend your rights and privileges

any attempt to privatize these would simply result in being gobbled up by larger powers

>>137254889
>swede
Oh why am I not surprised... Protip : we already have european countries co-operate on some levels, it's called EU and it's a failure.

NB's eat dicks

>>137252161

>I can't write my americunt brain around it, so it's dumb! MAGA PRAISE TRUMP G-D BLESS YOU.

Kulaks in Russia were the closest thing to Jews without being Jews biologically, you think nationalists (both in Russia and here, at pol) would argue against them?

Hell fucking no. "Prolific, hard-working farmers, elite of the village" "Poor enterpreneurs that dindu nuffin" "Innocendu victims of Stalin's regime". But when (((Banks))) do the same (and in a VERY light manner in comparison), suddenly it's "rubbing hands" and "Jews destroy White Race" and we need to holocaust them to save the said white race.


You have ideological integrity of a nigger and the greed of kike, faggot. You don't even give a fuck about your nation, the only problem with the system you have - is that kikes run it instead of wasps, you would gladly ruin your nation for shekels yourself, given the chance, am I right, my dear matzonalist?

>>137244865
>>Destruction of capitalism in favor of socialism

yeah because it's going so great in eastern europe and russia right now

compared to those poor people under capitalism, socialism is paradise!

>>137255590
It's a failure because it's not European countries cooperating, it's European countries being subjugated under a central government trying to mimic American federalism.

>>137254889

>Those brown people are bad workers anyways.

If only brown, since faggots really have poor work ethics.
Faggots will gladly out their own white people as (((lazy))) or (((weak))) or whatever buzzword and worship the literal jew.

When the only thing one cares about is the size of a nose of the one fucking their nation over, it speaks volumes about the absolute state of ideology one (not one, the nazis that are redpilled to the (((free market))) are a fucking minority) represents.

>>137230493
Stupid nazi cunt,just off yourself already

>>137256255

True NatSoc is econmically centrist, a lot of us believe the free market is shit

>>137255798

>yeah because it's going so great in eastern europe and russia right now

The only reason why capitalism worked in Russia is because Putin made an authoritarian dictatorship before seven jews FUBAR'd the country beyond recognition.

And the country STILL has a struggle to return to pre-collapse demographics.

So can you do us all a favor and stop trying to explain to russians how good and helpful it was to crash down the country so that Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and other faggots could actually get their millions?

>>137256628

True Natsoc is like True Communist, it's a fucking meme and rarely comes off in real life.

>tfw just made a thread and there's already one explaining what I was looking for
Oops

>>137232755
I like the black front flag, but wish Strasser didn't have the reputation for antisemitism

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>>137240909
>implying belief in rights is a must in libertarian philosophy.

>>137255798
Funny how Eastern Europe has actually managed to preserve national differences and a sense of sovereignty. Meanwhile, what do you see when you look at Western Europe? I can only see rampant americanisation, social atomisation and the surrender of politics to economy. Tragically, Eastern Europe is on the same trajectory. The fall of the USSR in Russia was especially traumatic.

>>137230493
They are fucking idiots I agree. NatSoc is already pretty authoritarian but it allows people to own what they earn through their labour and respects people. NatBol is just a bunch of commies trying to use nationalism to fit their agenda instead of humanitarianism. It's the same thing as communism in essence.

>>137256666
Democracy is a tragedy for Russia. The Supreme Soviet should have retained control of Russia proper, but the allure of selling out and getting rich quick was too strong for the elites. It's just like Eastern Germany, annexed without consultation. Putin pulled off a miracle, and hopefully upon his succession, the State can de-democratize further, and simultaneously eliminate the mafia capitalists.

>>137257380
Libertarians want the legitimacy that liberal theory imparts. They're not brave enough to stake their claim by the barrel of a gun. The ones who do find their testicles tend to become fascists of one flavor or another. It's a rare man who is a true rugged individualist, and most autistic libertarian teenagers match the physical weakling profile of the average left liberal.

>>137257605
>it allows people to own what they earn through their labour and respects people
Nazbol does that ya nig
Liberaltarians are far more destructive than anything
Look at the soviet union, it fell thanks to liberalism

>>137257806
>Libertarians want the legitimacy that liberal theory imparts.
While similar in nature, Austrian style libertarianism is in opposition to classical liberalism, and much of the groundwork has been replaced. You're mistaken if you think that Hoppe bases his claims and theories on the same ground as Adam Smith.

>They're not brave enough to stake their claim by the barrel of a gun.
You're allowed to defend your property by the barrel of a gun, just as a collection of voluntary individuals can do the same.
Also, how does communism go about "rights"?
Is your entire ideology based on the baseless claims of whatever absolute authority exists? If there is no ultimate given, what fundamentals are you supposed to base your society around?

>>137259942
>If there is no ultimate given
What ultimate does yours give?

>>137259942
>Also, how does communism go about "rights"?
"Rights" are the moral license of those with power to claim as theirs through force whatever it is that they desire.

>what fundamentals are you supposed to base your society around?
Dialectical materialism, which is really just a fancy way of saying 'empiricism'. The only absolute authority is the God of Nature. Human societies proceed according to the material condition of existence. In the 150 years since primary Marxist theory was established, the dialectic has progressed beyond the narrow focus on conditions of the early industrial age.

Some Marxists treat Marxism as a religion with faith principles that are beyond question. These people use the notion of a "science of history" cynically, and only as a rhetorical means of justifying their faith-based beliefs.

Other Marxists, like those in China, have chosen to make an empirical analysis of the theory. They said that it was clear that capitalism caused different material conditions that were initially theorized, and that if everything depends on material conditions, then they have to adapt accordingly. I described the basic gestalt of their conclusions earlier in the thread: >>137247181

Basically, we won't get Communism until capitalism produces essentially a Star Trek economy with matter replicators and holodecks (fundamental changes to material conditions).

How is bolchevism different from socialism? I've always just associated bolcheviks with communist Russian revolutionaries.

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>>137230493
The only people who use it are those who are raiding as part of a lefty/pol/ brigade. Communists didnt exist here a couple years ago. The board is almost exclusively National Socialists and right leaning libertarians who agree niggers and Jews dont mix with a healthy society. Almost everyone else, save a few, are trash who showed up later on.. and many of them are here just to destroy.