lmfao at libertarians https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-tr u

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Pick a side anarcho fags.

>>137210250

>I just checked world history

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>>137210081
>mfw conservatives already gravitating towards Literally Hitler tier

>>137210482
Lmao

>>137210482
>tfw you check world history real quick and find out what happens to people incapable of hard labor after the revolution.

>>137210081
>democrats are literally in the "hippie zone"
>Trump voters are conveniently in the same area as nazis and fascists

>>137210081
> other
what an autistic mess
we need to own the bottom right, we need to own all the right
all this moralizing and demonizing is just their way of giving you a warm feeling in return for your taxes
IT
IS
ALL
ABOUT
FUCKING
TAXES AND SPENDING
YOU FUCKING KIKE-PUPPETS

>>137211344
this is bullshit meme made by faggots trying to brand socialism as ok (again)
it's all about the spending
fuck you natsoc nigger

Literally don't exist lmao anyone saying they're a libertarian on here is basically an open borders cuck

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>>137210081
What am I if I'm fiscally liberal but socially conservative?

>>137213113
Then you're a nigger.

>>137213248
But I usually let the social conservatism side of the equation win out...

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>>137210081
>abstract merchant
really gets the ol' noggin joggin'

>>137210081
>>137210250
>>137212962
Libertarians don't vote dipshits.

No one said the true path would be easy or popular

>>137212859
You do realize any form of welfare state is Socialism, right? Most people would agree that it's responsible and correct to have some form of safety net if we are paying taxes

>>137210081
It seems like libertarianism isn't a stable position in 2017, it's mainly a pathway to white nationalism.

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>>137210081
>there are actually people in the far bottom left corner
I thought those people were memes for us to laugh at, holy fuck

>>137214119
No, people are just bandwagon retards because they never held any conviction in any principles in the first place and never will. You're all spineless unprincipled easily swayed unthinking Borg. Kill yourselves.

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>>137214119
Libertarianism will only be viable if we invent interstellar travel, and proceed to settle the infinite space frontier. In other words, it's not viable. It's utopian. Statism is the future. The fight is over what kind of state it will be.

>>137210081
Look at the distributions though. The high density area for Hillary is full lefty while Trump is just right-ish. This election was truly lefties vs the common man.

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>>137214443
>AnCom
>Having a political opinion
Fucking lol

>>137210081
>that one yellow dot on the bottom right

>>137214443
Yes, get mad and type more. If there's one thing more pathetic than the average /pol/tard it's the ones who come here with a tripcode and rile them up.

>>137210081
Literally the first line in this trash
>Before the arrival of Donald Trump, the Republican establishment tended to define politics along a one-dimensional economic axis.

>one dimensional axis
A clueless moron who has no fucking idea what he is talking about.

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>>137210081
I think the graph makes much more sense compared to the political compass when rotated 90°

>mfw modern day lefties are literally Communists
Mother of fuck

>>137214770
>ancom
>implying
If there were just an 'A' flag I'd use that.

>>137214807
Kys moral relativist human garbage.

>>137210081

> tfw fiscally liberal, socially conservative
> tfw there's a lot of us and no party to cater for us

>>137215196
I know this feel.

Are we basically Nazifags or what?

>>137214660
Mainstream libertarians are statists, they support minarchy. No one really likes taxes and regulations and we can all agree that politicians are not saints. We could use that to make libertarianism mainstream again.

>>137215021

lmao at making up your own facts to fit your retardation

>>137215331

It's a common position for Catholics.

Think it's the most reasonable one.

> government should help where possible
> part of that is upholding your end of the social contract
> i.e. being a moral citizen and having a good family life
> this builds a high trust society where we can use the power of collective action for infrastructure and national projects

Nazis, maybe, if you have a racial dimension in there as well.

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>>137215667
>making up my own facts
The political compass literally has the economic x-axis and the social y-axis

You're fucking retarded m8

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>>137215021
Naw. Remember mainstream American politics are a small sector of the whole.

>>137211344
>flat earth
this is spot on for me kek

>>137216120
Rotate it 90° to align the Social y-axis and the Economic x-axis
OPs graph is deliberately rotated to the left 90°

>>137216019
I would move Bush up, next to Thatcher. Hillary and Trump closer to Obama 2012.

>>137210081
Can you please post the archived version?

>>137216398
>https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-trump-won-in-two-dimensions-1502320256

http://archive.is/aS76l

>>137216398
https://archive.fo/Qd7tZ

>>137216252
no. it matches. Economic liberals left. Social liberals / libertarians bottom.

>>137216019
>>137216019

>Trump and Cruz more Authoritarian than Stalin, Kim Jong and Castro

>>137210081
I'm always blown away by how far down in the cornet Dems are on this chart.

It proves conservatives are vastly more moderate.

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>>137216574

>>137213618
>Libertarians don't vote
I really wish they would. They are shooting themselves in the foot when they don't.

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tfw progressive lolbertarian in the center right purple and no one to vote for

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>>137216574
Look at your literal axis labels retard

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>>137215617
>minarchy

Most libertarian arguments are calibrated against democratic states. They simply want a guarantee that the state won't tyrannize them, and they (correctly) believe that democratic states are the most likely to become tyrannical.

What libertarians don't understand is that weak states get pwned by strong states in the long run. They have very few calibrated arguments against the strong NON-democratic state. Libertarians have a hard time with a place like SIngapore because they believe that political freedom is intrinsically connected to economic freedom, despite Singapore being proof that is not the case. Increasingly, they're going to have a hard time explaining China, as it begins to reflect techno-capitalism better than the west despite being authoritarian.

That's why I call libertarians utopian. They're like orthodox Marxists in that they refuse to question the fundamental axioms of their ideology because they're convinced that it's correct despite evidential feedback and case studies in the real world.

Whenever a libertarians question democracy, they become Statists. They NEVER become anarchists. Contemplate that. I think it's important.

>>137216398
>The right is far more centrist than the left
>Yet we are seen as extremists and our leaders endlessly apologize over nothing

Just goes to show how cucked we are

>>137216746
No. You're shooting yourself in the foot if you do. You're giving the goons an excuse to goon on you.
>"Hey, you're part of the process - don't complain about us threatening you with violence for noncompliance with our whims when you can just change what we do by participating in the same process that we say legitimizes us gooning on you!"
Go fuck yourself. If you want my property you can have it from my corpse - you're NEVER getting my compliance or cooperation.

>>137215021
You are everything wrong with this board.

>>137215713
I went to a catholic school so maybe this is why I feel similarly.

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>>137216120
>>137216710
It still says social conservatives are top of the chart , witb economic conservatives / Republicans right.

I should have shrunk it more, move up a bit

>>137216858
Maybe you should read the axis labels

>>137215044
Neoliberalism and it's successful, intelligent supporters (like me) aren't going anywhere. You can thrash and cry about unfair the system is, but fact is that you're too stupid to benefit from it to the fullest, not my fault.

Keep typing more, the prole rage is palpable.

>>137216858
You're the one that fucked up the axis

>>137216858
The numbers are what correspond with the labels, not the axes perpendicular with them. Have you ever charted data in a high school science class?

>>137217544
I don't care what you do - I think you're going to hell. We'll both find out when our bodies violently and inevitably die whether I'm right. Good luck senpai!

>>137217544
Pride comes before the fall

>>137210081
Lolbertarians were growing or at least where appealing to people where they focused on civil liberties, then they went full retard with the "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" aka "fuck both sides lol". They have switched to muh corporations did do nuffin and corporations can save everything. Why they would switch to corporate cock sucking in an increasing populist political climate is beyond me, but then again it is autistic niggas we are talking about here. Should of focused on anti war, civil liberties and anti establishment, dumb fucking retards

>>137213113
a rural and suburban retard

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>>137217214
>participating in the same process that we say legitimizes us gooning on you!"
Except it does legitimize it you mongoloid. Congress, the Senate and the President are all elected by the people while the Judaical are picked by the president and then approved by the Senate who, again, were both elected by the people. The people actively legitimize the government by participating in elections and voting. By not voting you are shooting yourself in the foot by not actively participating in elections to change the government. Turkey's government switched to a dictatorship was legitimized because the people voted for that to happen. By stamping your feet and not voting your are effectively saying that you do not desire change in the government and in fact like getting fucked by the minority that do vote.

>>137216019
>ted cruz and donald trump are as authoritarian as numerous murderous dictators
This graph is fucking retarded

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>>137210081
Wow. It's almost as if the electorate did not vote in a vacuum, but essentially had two options to choose from (if they weren't thinking clearly, as they are commonly induced to, since many people across the nation do not live in swing states, and so weren't required to be affirmatively in support of either of the 2016 ballot's shit shows), and tailored their voting priorities to suit the pitched appeals of the candidate who made them.

Which is to say your grid does not, in truth, reflect the political affiliations of the voters, but the political affiliation of the candidates as perceived by voters supporting them.

Thanks for the useless (but purposed for persuasion!) information, WSJ!

>>137217544
you will hang on the day of the rope, neolibberalzz are ez to spot and ez to target with cyberattaccs and data mining

>>137217449
>Far left cultural marxists are "objectively" centrists in a global (((context)))
kys

>>137210081
>Polled by phone calling landlined diehard hippies and evangelicals.
>0.01% Trump prediction to win
wƎw

>>137216252
mathematically illiterate retard

>>137216858
This is bait, or you're a literal retard.

>>137213113
You're a normal person

>>137217461
I did
That's what led me to the conclusion in the first place dumbass

>>137217625
See above

>>137217680
And? Did I objectively interpret the data incorrectly and make a wrong parallel between the typical political compass and the scatterplot?

>>137220131
>>137220180
>Being such an assblasted commie you replied twice
Day of the Rake leaf

>>137217958
underrated

>>137213485
Exactly
The average garden variety negro hates fags and dykes more than any alt-right shitlord ever will.
In Africa they parade fag corpses around the town after flaying them till death.
Socially conservative, fiscally liberal isn't necessarily nigger tier, but most people who fit in that category are niggers, so chances are you're one too.