Huh?

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Cool, I did know that there was such statue in whole of USA considering your anti-communist sentiments. How old is it?

>>137190625
Commies should not be tolerated whatsoever. Wipe them all out.

>>137190931
Late 80s, was in Slovakia for a short time before the revolution, then imported to the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin,_Seattle

>>137191478
A Challenger appears.

>>137190625
I googled lenin death toll and how many people did lenin kill but I didnt get a straight answer - could someone give me a number and source ?

>Nazi flags should only be displayed by WWII war heroes who captured them,
exactly
>but Lenin statues in Seattle are no problem.
nobody said that

nice try, stupid shill bullshit non-argument. classic

>>137192340
I live here. I've seen no protests over the statue. Occasionally he gets dressed in drag for a gay parade but that's about it.

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>>137192017
>how many people did lenin kill
I don't know that he personally ever killed a single person.

Although he did order men condemned by the Party to be killed or sent to gulag, overall Lenin saved lives. The Tsar's lapdogs in the Provisional government would not help the starving peasants and workers.

>>137193027
I'm still waiting for why we're celebrating a Russian revolutionary in America while strongly condemning the use of Nazi symbols. They seem equally out of place to me as an American. This doesn't have much to do with Canada or Canadians BTW.

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>>137190625
>American cities advocating communism

>>137190625
That's a pretty cool statue to be fair.

>>137193027
Well I mean Lenin vs Hitler - Hitler didnt kill anyone either - So how many people did Lenin have killed ?

>>137192017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Hanging_Order

>>137194375
Didn't Hitler shoot his dog?

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>>137193976
Perhaps because Nazis were an enemy of America and the Russians never truly have been more than a rival.

>>137194717
Google COLD WAR. See air war over Korea, Vietnam etc. in which Soviet and American pilots fought in direct engagements.

>>137194375
Lenin and Hitler both have disputed "killcounts" but what matters most is the motivation of the policies and the nature of the targets.

Hitler targeted helpless women and innocent little children just for being Jewish, or Gypsy, or from some other bloodline his Nazi ideology deemed undesirable to the German Reich.

Lenin on the other hand found a brutal civil war against counter-revolutionaries: soldiers, saboteurs, spies and other grown men who opposed him with force of arms and with subterfuge.

>>137194958
I am aware of all this. Still never actually escalated to a war between USA and Russia. Cooperation has always continued on some level.

>>137190625

Comrade Lenin wouldn't have approved of US liberals. Then again, he wouldn't have approved of the alt-right, either. The majority of the US could be sent into a gulag, imho.

I hope a brutal civil war of Syrian proportions breaks out in the US and the country gets torn apart after it.

>>137194716
I'm not sure they ever really found out about the dog. Remember your Valiant Eastern Ally even got the wrong skull on that totally legit Hitler corpse. It stands to reason that he likely got some people during WW1, and apparently there was a rumor going around for a while that he did put up some kind of last stand among his remaining bodyguard when Berlin fell, but they then of course found out about the Valiant Eastern Ally's totally legit Hitler suicide.

>>137195169
How old are you? Cooperation is definitely the wrong word to describe US-Russian relations even now when we're a lot closer to that. Twenty years ago when I went through basic training, they still used red commies for the pop-up targets at the rifle range.

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>>137190625
Lenin was a mass murderer.

>>137196015
Old enough to know about the United Nations and other joint works between big powers?

US-Soviet/Russian cooperation has fluctuated over the years, but it has never stopped entirely, and in fact it has been steadily increasing overall.

>>137196281
Yes, but only thousands, not millions like Stalin or Hitler, so it's all good.

>>137196443
Anyone who supports lenin or stalin supports mass murder.

>>137190625
Lenin was a U.S. ally.

Like it or not, Russia never killed 400,000 Americans. Hitler did.

>>137196380
Increasing cooperation yes. I agree. But almost every UN vote during the cold war was US vs. Soviets.

>>137195584
Yeah the Hitler suicide is fucking mysterious as shit. Like the only person who I've heard interviewed about it was a typist who supposedly was in the bunker. You could grab any old lady and pretend it was her in the war.

>>137196913
As I said, rivals but never outright enemies.

>>137190625
Should've listened to lemay when you had the chance. Reminds me of the Vietnam war protestors who used to fly the nlf/nva flags.

Reminder that Lenin did eventually put the peoples needs over his ideology and managed to pull Russia out of a costly war

>>137196707
>Implying the U.S. didn't want to glass Russia and vice versa. The amount of time we almost came to nuclear annihilation is downright terrifying.
I think MAD is not as concrete as people give it credit. For it to work between two enemies it took thousands of lives and non stop efforts on both sides, plus some stupid dumb luck

>>137197008
In order for rivalry, you need mutual respect, not fear. They were enemies.

>>137197776
I don't think there was ever a real intent in America to invade Russia, nor in Russia to invade America. Proxy wars just are not the same. Actual enemies can't cooperate on things as the US and Soviets always continued to do.

>>137198098
Because invading either had nuclear implications? They didn't cooperate, look into the god damn missile crisis or berlin airlift, it's power politics all the way and both trying to get an edge on each other.
You are incredibly naive

>>137198750
>They didn't cooperate
They did though.

>You are incredibly naive
Actually, you are. Wake up and smell the BS.

>>137197331
This.
Lenin was a man, he made mistakes, but ultimately he loved his people and wanted the world to be a better place.
People have done much worse than he in pursuit of ideology, at least he did it for a good reason and not just for personal glory.

>>137198098
They didn't invade because they knew it wasn't winnable. I wouldn't call that cooperation.

>>137199016
Lenin murdered children, fathers, and mothers, he is a murderer.

If you support leninnyou support murder.

>>137199190
Whether or not there was cooperation is not up for debate. You know and I know the USA and CCCP continued to cooperate in many different areas even during the most tense moments of the Cold War. It fluctuated sure but it never stopped. There was never any intent to fight, on either side. There was only competition and proxy war.

>>137199016
Funny how nobody in Russia/Eastern Europe wants the statue then.

>>137196915
How do you think they keep finding all of those death camp guards? Not meaning to sound standoffish, but it is only recently hitting me how much bullshit I got fed for all my life. Interestingly his personal pilot and plane were apparently seen preparing for take-off by some Allied observer or other, but the idea that he somehow got out of there and went on to rig shit up behind the scenes seems too... good to be true?

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>>137199595
>doesn't realize Russia and Eastern Europe have thousands of Lenin statues still standing and one more simply wouldn't matter

>>137199497
You're completely wrong about that and I'm guessing too young to actually remember the cold war.

>>137196707
Lenin died before WWII dipshit. And the USSR was pretty much a pariah state before then.

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>>137200000
Nice digits. You said earlier you agreed about US-Soviet cooperation though, so you seem retarded. You're probably even younger than I am.

Go read, "The Best Enemy Money Can Buy"

>>137199775
Support for soviet union = support for murdering millions of children.

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>>137199814
It was removed from there. Bought and imported to the US by a Slovakian-American immigrant. FYI it's hard to find one outside of Seattle nowadays.

>>137200706
>it's hard to find one outside of Seattle nowadays
You've clearly never been to Eastern Europe.

>>137200325
Ohhhhhh, you read a book about it. Never mind then. I was born in the United States in 1973.

>>137200865
I lived in Prague for three years. Try again.

>>137201181
I really don't care how old you claim to be, Anon. Read the book, or don't, it's your funeral.

>>137201316
You should have driven east more often, I guess.

>>137190931
Is the flower marking the graves of her parents she just murdered for being racists?

>>137190625
I would love to destroy that piece of shit statue but instead all the shit for brain nazis larp,kill people,and turn everyone on the edge against the right.
>Nazis and Stormfags need to go back

why shouldn't there be a statue of Comrade Lenin, considering he's a hero of the working class?

>>137202250
Nobody in Seattle works.

>>137194958
Yeah were you were fighting indirectly like pussies in fear of nuclear crisis, unlike WWII. Do you even know what total war is? I doubt USSR was ever painted as one true enemy as the nazis were

>>137201377
Stay in school. Keep reading.

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>>137202250
You support mass murder.

>>137202250

He massacred shitloads of ordinary peasants and bragged about it to Bertrand Russell

>>137190625
No, Lenin was not an American hero like Lee was. Take your Lenin statue back to East Berlin or North Korea, faggot.

>>137202720
I see you're going to ignore the facts about US-Soviet cooperation and focus on imagining me as a schoolboy.

That is of course your choice, and my choice is to let you know you're a dumb nigger.

>>137202609
then where do the hipsters buy their lattes?

>>137202250
"working class" is Jewish code work for goyim. But you are antifa and too young and stupid to know things like this.

>>137194375
>Hitler didnt kill anyone either

He was a veteran of the trenches. He probably killed a half dozen or more people, some with shovel and fist.

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>>137202737
Debunking marxism and capitalism with one belief, people are not defined by a good that they produce whose value is the subjective wants and thoughts of another, peoples only value is living there is no objective value or definition in productions or materials thus the materialistic organization of people makes no sense.

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>>137202707
They were the enemy here for much longer than the Nazis.

>>137202737
Coming from a NatSoc whose idealogoy literally revolves around mass-murder of ethnic groups, "blood and soil", and mass extermination of jews.

>inb4 "holocaust was faked"
>"muh jewish oppressors"
>"muh white heritage"

Commies are dumb, but NatSocs are fucking retarded

>>137195169
Democide is well accounted for outside of ideologues.

>>137202960
From immigrants or children.

>>137203439
There is no objective value to materials, they are subjective decided by individuals tgeir value thus the true value is not the materials but people, and so people should be organized around peoples rights and such and not production rights.

>>137203676
My truth consists of defending Europe and Europeans.

>>137203676
Nazis didn't kill anybody who didn't deserve it and especially didn't murder their own people as the (((Soviets))) did.

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>>137203676
They're both equally retarded.

>>137204357
What claims are there of mass murder carried out by the NSDAP?

>>137201652
Its seasoning for their corpses. Starvation is a bitch.

I'm staying at a hotel near the statue right now, there's blood on his hand and a plaque describing the history so...
>>137204357
It really is a shame there's no way to teleport you to a small village in 41 as a slavic girl. Faggot.

>revel in violence over and over
>get car'd

>>137205272
Hm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3k04-YuKUyU

>>137205272
Kek. It's a shame the Soviet Jews mass-murdered 66 gorillion Russians. If the Nazis had won millions of little Russian lolis would have be saved.

>>137205272
Blood or red paint?