The ACLU is suing the city of Charlottesville over denying free

>>137173538
damn....
that's pretty fucking good

inb4 they realize donations > ethics and drop the lawsuit. you're a moron if you don't think it will end that way.

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I never know what to think of the ACLU desu. Back in the 80s two Jewish lawyers defended the right of the KKK to march through Jewish neighborhoods.

The kikes at the ACLU certainly are a kooky bunch desu

>>137173538
It's nice to see the ACLU being principled in the defense of the First Ammendment - something equally hated by NatSocs, Muslims and SJWs

(((They))) know that had the event happened the results would be far worse for them than a lawsuit ever could be

>>137174056
They do exactly what they say they will.
Granted it's push back against most of the conservtives because they're the ones passing anti abortion laws and other shit.

They're liberals not progressives.

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>>137174110
>NatSoc hate the first amendment
wot

>>137173538

Is the ACLU, dare I say, /(((conflicted)))/?

>>137173538
>Muslim Ban (I know its not actually a muslim ban fuck off)
>Linda Sarsour
>Milo
>This
The ACLU probably pissed off everyone in America at this point.

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>>137173783
Nah they've defended nazis before. They posted on Facebook a while back about why they defend Milo, and the comments were filled with people saying "wah wahh I'm never donating again, how dare you defend a monster" when they loved the ACLU a few months ago during muh muhslim ban.

ACLU don't give a fuck, they're pretty much an institutionalized trolling company.

>>137174605
This is what the ACLU does.

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>>137173538
Fuck yes.

>>137174524
They do. How else are they going to get rid of degeneracy?

>>137174056
because free speech is integral to their strategy, so that they can be guarnteed the right to hysterically attack anyone who mentions immigration might not be a great idea.

>>137173538
fuck the aclu AND all of those cucks bitching on twitter

>>137173538
I hate the ACLU overall but I can't deny they are principled. They're not on the same tier as SPLC.

>>137173538
Wait what the fuck is happening right now?

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>>137173538
Often do not agree with the ACLU but I gotta hand it to them. They stick to their guns. Freedom of speech is important and this lawsuit will be the real victory that comes from this.

>>137175034
Lol

Police departments don't want high IQ applicants because they are more likely to quit after only a short time in order to pursue better opportunities. It's the same idea behind retail and service jobs not hiring applicants with masters degrees because they know they'll quit pretty quick.

>>137173538
wtf i love the aclu now

>>137173538
Despite the inherent bias in myself and this board, and despite all the retarded optics and chaos in Charlottesville, what they did by denying their right to demonstrate was bullshit.

>state of emergency
>national guard on standby

They removed the demonstrators, separated them into small groups and directed them into the ravenous counter demonstrators, telling them to disperse. Then nothing was done about the counter demonstrators who continued to unlawfully assemble, without permits or sanction and the state did fuck all to stop them. They were allowed to flood down the streets, closing down the city wherever they walked.

>>137173538
Archive your shit nufag

https://archive.fo/baIDG

Really don't like the ACLU but at least they respect the 1st amendment

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>>137175098
>Degeneracy = Free Speech
Please tell me more about your hedonistic paradise
Hoppe would be ashamed of you

>>137173538
Good shit. First amendment applies to everyone regardless of views.

i support the ACLU and still do, but they are incorrect in this case, the Nazi rally failed the 'imminent lawless action' test when some of them started screaming the typical nazi threats. when the scuffles started breaking out, the police were OBLIGATED to cancel the rally and clear the area.

>>137175339
>principled
Consistent is the word you're looking for. They don't really have a clear set of principles, they just kinda "vote" on what sounds good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union
> the ACLU lobbies for policy positions that have been established by its board of directors

>>137173538

ahhh thanks OP i just had a nice big laugh and I feel so great now. love it when classical liberals and SJWs conflict. saved

>>137173538
respect

>>137174524
This. What a fucking faggot

>>137173538
>its your first amendment right to run people over with a car

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>>137176310
Antifa wasn't dispersed though so this was clearly anarcho-tyranny on the part of the authorities.

>>137176622
HUR HUR HURRRRRR

>>137176310
The federal court ruled that the demonstration was legitimate as it was a peaceful protest made to encourage discussion.
There were no neo nazi boogeymen, except the Klan who were not invited.
As you can see here, Richard Spencer is arrested for peacefully assembling, which is protected under the constitution.

>>137176774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAVmiPyG3BY

>>137175128
Free speech is never a bad idea, you shill.

>I donated to a charity and now they are doing something I don't like

>this is capitalism's fault.

>>137176684
>anarcho-tyranny
Can we please use common English and not invented buzzwords like a bunch of SJWs?

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>>137173538
almighty superlative kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFLpK6Gqg5Q

>>137176774
the court granted them a PERMIT to hold the rally, that doesn't mean they can do whatever they want afterwards and be immune from police dispersal

>>137176684
the police's objective is the park, they're not going to chase after everyone . the nazis were also free to march away

>>137173538
I take it back ACLU
I take it all back.

Nazi Rallies are protected speech

It's taught in every fucking con law class and has been litigated many times

ACLU kind of has no choice

(I assume in the past they believed Nazi rallies would help liberal causes)

If they let the event go on probably none of this shit would've happened. They didn't even clear out Antifa after they cancelled it. The police, mayor, and Governor are fucking morons.

The laws themselves are racist against white men, and highly disfavor religion.

The ACLU isn't doing anything good by fighting to uphold the racist and Marxist laws as they exist.

>>137176915
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-tyranny

>>137177192
Nazi rallies didn't use to cause this kind of national stir. I remember a rally took place 10-15 years ago in Columbia MO (home of Mizzou and Mellisa Click) and it was only local news. No violence whatsoever.

>>137177289
>Free speech is racist and marxist
gas yourself kike

>>137177311

micro aggression and Islamophobia both have wiki pages.

Doesn't mean they are legitimate terms

>>137177067
They held a peaceful protest in the middle of a park that was besieged. If the police were so concerned about the lawlessness in the area they should have moved the counter-protestors which did not have legal permit to assemble in mass. By moving them further away and establishing a perimeter, both sides could have been contained peacefully. Instead, they allow the counter-protestors to besiege them in the park which raised tensions and then forcibly removed them from the park and endangering lives.

>>137173538
>Nazis are literally killing people daily
I fuckin' wish! They all deserve it.

>>137173538

They should all move out of the country, or better yet kill themselves because at some point their money has helped out someone they disagree with in some way shape or form.

>>137177289

>>137177439
^

>>137177280
Yep. Charlottesville is gonna be broke as fuck after this and the police department will be owned by an independent magistrate outside of the mayors office.

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>>137173538
>Nazis are literally killing people daily

Imagine being this delusional.

>>137177677
Broke due to lawsuits?

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>>137173538
>Nazis are killing people daily
What did she mean by this?

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>>137177067
>afterwards
wat?

they got ejected before they had the rally

evil gommir scumbag (((elites))) at work again pretending they can infringe rights and break the law, not a good look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Q0qRu7CSE

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>>137177311
>metapedia

I know it's an unpopular opinion here, but I really have a ton of respect for the ACLU and their consistent support of constitutional rights. They really are fairly bipartisan.

Just too bad they're always silent when it comes to the 2nd. At least the NRA is around to pick up the slack and help protect our right to bear arms.

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>>137176931
That song is pretty gay.

>>137173538
>Nazis are literally killing people daily.

Jesus what planet do these people live on?

>>137174605
Nope, they stand up for constitutional rights no matter who's constitutional rights it is.
I hate them for their political slant, but they are obliged to do their job.

>>137177845
Virginias local governments can be independent cities. The cities take complete responsibility over enforcing laws within their jurisdiction. Charlottesville is an independent city. Means the city council there will be taking 100% of the responsibility for the actions that went on here today. They can't shift blame.

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>>137177915
omg wikipedio isonly true source, am I write?

>>137178274
love you too bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4a4sGLEb58

>>137173538
Attention faggots!

This article is from Friday and has nothing to do with the governor declaring a state of emergency.
This is about the city revoking the permit.
Read the fucking article before posting, retards.

>>137178696
Lol this will be fun then.

Why would a city want to be independent? What's the advantage? Closest thing we have in MO is St. Louis, which is a city without a county.

>>137178452
I think he ment to say hajjis in europe

to anyone posting here just keep in mind this wasn't a nazi parade so technically the aclu is right.
if you stop throwing 'nazi' every 2 seconds, you would realize this

>>137177416

Exactly, the Nazis just marched through town, cucks yelled at them and liberal jews sent money to the SPLC and ADL

But now the precedent is clearly established to protect our rallies.

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>>137173538
Use the Left's infrastructure against itself.

>>137174524
>>137176026
>>137176620
>Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda

>>137173538
wtf i love jews now

>>137178979
Operates exactly like St. Louis. The benefits of cities becoming independent is that they can seize nearby land and bring it into their jurisdiction legally. There are only three independent cities outside of Virginia. Because cities are independent they can seize nearby land from other unincorporated cities that are a part of county governments. They also have complete control over the utilities and services within the city and can utilize 100% of the taxes they collect as allowed by the state government.

If you ever want to see why independent cities are a retarded idea in mass see the Hampton Roads area. Norfolk/Portsmouth got big from the naval bases and started expanding and seizing neighboring countyland. Those counties responded by banding together and forming Chesapeake and Virginia Beach. Then seven cities that were hostilely formed are against each other.

>>137174056

They are going to defend the right of Muslims to take over America too.

>>137174524
this.

wtf since when is natsoc anti free speech?

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>>137173538
They have a good point because as i last heard the UniteTheRight was moved even though they have won in court and got the permit.
If the city of Charlottesville had not moved it but instead put enough police between the UniteTheRight and the Antifa, you probably wouldn't have had the Antifa blocking countless of streets without the police anywhere nearby

This is amazing they exposing themselves as the true hypocrites

>>137179901
the cops/mayor were clearly to blame

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>>137174056
>Back in the 80s two Jewish lawyers defended the right of the KKK to march through Jewish neighborhoods.
I wonder why that is Anon?

>>137180541
>This is amazing they exposing themselves as the true hypocrites
>implying they don't do that everyday
>implying normies will ever take note of this

Reminder

You have a 1st Amendment right to be a Nazi or a Nazi LARPer. You, however, do not have a right to violently shut down a peaceful protest and lawful assembly because your feelings are hurt. You also do not have a right to attack drivers of cars just because you are angry.

>>137174804
Sounds like a pretty Jewish organization huh?

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>>137173538

>mfw CWCville gets sued by the family of the deceased claiming that their unlawful dispersal of the rally caused the death of their kin

Anyone that actually knows what the ACLU stands for shouldn't be surprised, I think one of the lawyers said something to the effect of 'it would be fascist to ban fascists'

>>137175810
That doesn't make any sense since police have powerful unions and very good benefits and is a solid lifelong career path. Not to mention the vast majority of people who apply to join the police specifically want career in law-enforcement. There is also plenty of room to move up to that would favor high-IQs like detective work crime lab technicians.

>>137182720
All that totally depends on the department and state. Some places make shit pay with shit benefits, Atlanta for example.

>>137173538
>donate 2500 dollars to an organization when you don't even know what they actually stand for
Holy fuck, that trust fund money is strong

>>137174804
I'm a pretty hardcore free speech guy but what pisses me off the most is how they still stick their fingers in their collective ears and pretend the Heller and McDonald decisions don't exist so they can continue claiming the 2nd Amendment isn't an individual right.

>>137174110

Natsocs don't hate the 1st Amendment in the least.

Don't lie on the internet.

wtf i love the aclu now

>>137174524
>>137179885
they're anti-free speech when they're the majority and loudest opinion that is shutting down others.

you idiots think /pol/ is going to allow pride parades in it's fantasy world?

>>137179885
You nazi LARPers are gigantic faggots. You'll literally the same shit tier as racist left wing identity politics liberals.

Kys. Hitler and postmodernist "intellectuals" are faggots

bunch of indian givers

>>137183834
>pretend the Heller and McDonald decisions don't exist
I don't know what they are, so feel free to enighten me, but where are they in the constitution?

>>137174110
As opposed to the second, which their official position on is "it doesn't exist."

>>137174921
Well fuck me silly. I... am actually impressed.

>>137173538
virtue signaling faggots didn't donate a single cent

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>>137173538

>>137185220
What do you even know about postmodern intellectuals or their works? Tell me.

>>137174056

They play both sides of the field

If they completely crush one side, then they can't push an agenda by having common civilians fighting against each other over trivial social issue shit

>>137185599
Don't be. The ACLU is consistent in refusing to defend the free speech rights of students on college campuses and in supporting the efforts by campus officials to suppress student speech and eject/exclude conservative speakers.

>>137175098
By starting a cultural revolution that is not enforced by the state, like any other sane movement would do.

>>137185463
Heller and McDonald are both major Supreme Court cases in the states regarding the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_Chicago

Heller specifically laid out 2A is an individual, not a collective right. McDonald found that 2A is incorporated by the due process clause of the 4th Amendment and thus held against the states.

If you go to the ALCU's website and look up 2A, they will claim it's a collective right despite these court cases and they won't take up firearms related cases which a handful of exceptions, mostly racial discrimination.

The big thing with 2A and people who aren't familiar is the militia clause. The reality is the US militia by law is all able-bodied male citizens 17-45. If you meet that criteria you're part of the militia referenced. A lot of anti-firearms people, (specifically anti-civilian firearms ownership) like to claim "militia" means the national guard, military, police, etc.

>>137177769
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>>137178452
Nazi serial killers are a thing. Who woulda thought.

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>>137173538

>>137185463

>McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010), is a landmark[1] decision of the Supreme Court of the United States that found that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms" as protected under the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment against the states. The decision cleared up the uncertainty left in the wake of District of Columbia v. Heller as to the scope of gun rights in regard to the states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_Chicago

>>137184150
You're a historical revisionist faggot. They will should they ever gain power. If you think it's ok to carry a nazi flag or a Confederate one, you're a cuck for flying the flags of the enemies of the west who (used to) champion values of liberty, free speech and secularism.

Left wing Marxist fucks who enable ISIS are just as stupid as right wing white supremacists.

Makes my blood boil seeing the left defend Islamic extremism and the right coddle Nazi faggots

>>137186217
its more like there is a legal precedent against this and the ACLU is going to make millions off the lawsuit

why do people always assume jews are ideological first and thieves second?
everything the jew does is to entrench his wealth

>>137186480
>The big thing with 2A and people who aren't familiar is the militia clause. The reality is the US militia by law is all able-bodied male citizens 17-45
so anyone over 45 does nothave the right to a firearm?

I get your point though, I'm surprised the aclu are doing something good for once

>>137186707
so why does NY have the right to ban almost everyone from firearms?

>>137173783
These "Donators" were probably one time deals and most likely have no spare money.

>>137186869
the confederacy was the champion of the west.
>fuck niggers
>individual rights
>regional governance over centralized authority
they were the real good guys.

hitler had nigger nazis, centralized authority over a liebensraum far larger than a single region's interest, and strictly curtailed individual rights.

C.S.A.!
C.S.A.!
C.S.A.!

the federal government should be the constitution, roads, and a resource pool that loans money to states who need to make major infrastructure investments.

>>137186869

Literally what is wrong with national socialism.

>muh 38 billion

>>137173538

The left are always eating eachother

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>>137173538
FUCKING BASED

HAHAHA I CALLED THIS FAGGOTS

>>137106398
>>137112269

>>137187931
It is entangled with the same cancerous ideology as post modernism: identify politics. People should be judged entirely on their individual merit, not their race which no one has control of. Fuck Nazis and fuck BLM. Racists of either side need to be shot

>>137187452
every male between 17-45 is the militia, but gun ownership isn't limited to the militia.

individuals have the right to own weapons, so that the militia, which is made up of a set of those individuals, will always have ready access to those firearms and ready knowledge of them.

it's literally the argument put forth by the movie "red dawn".
the militia is any one willing and able to be a partisan defender of the U.S. in a military conflict.

in the movie(s), the rebelious kids were dependent on having and knowing how to use their assortment of individually owned hunting rifles and handguns to start shooting the fucking commies from the woods.

the militia clause is simply the given reason why we have the individual right, according to pro-2nd amendment people.

anti-2nd amendment people claim the right exists only for those in the militia, and that the militia is only officially organized state groups like the national guard; when, even if the right were restricted solely to the militia, it would still be almost every man and they'd only be limiting women and the insane/infirm from gun ownership that way.

>>137187854
What did the Confederacy actually accomplish of value?
> Centralized authority
> Curtailed individual rights
Remind me of all of the confederacy's great scientific, technical, philosophical, etc. prowess

>>137188694
I think anyone should be able to own a firearm, just playing doubles advocate

I wonder why the founders didn't word it as "yo niggers, anyne can have a gun yo, unless they a criom n such dawg"(as was the vernacular back in the day)

>>137187854
You're a literal retard who has very little friends. I only hang out with right wing conservatives, many of whom are non-caucasian. Fuck the Confederate States. You niggers actually tried to defend slavery like some bronze aged middle Eastern shithole

>>137187452
>so anyone over 45 does nothave the right to a firearm?

That actually would be an interesting argument, but because Heller held 2A as an individual right there's no membership in a defense group or militia necessary.

I ask myself the same thing as I've lived in California most of my life. Currently the answer is the anti-gun state legislatures anti-gun laws that directly violate Heller. Every session they push as many laws as they possibly can to regulate firearms out of legal existence. The circuit courts, like the 9th keep letting states get away with it by refusing to actually weigh the laws under constitutional scrutiny. Basically they keep playing legal games and the court refuses to actually allow the merits to be argued. Because a few members on the Supreme court are very anti-gun (Heller was a 5-4 after all) they keep refusing to take up 2nd amendment related court cases, even with multiple circuit splits.

As an example, California has a roster of "handguns proven not unsafe" that have to meet several state requirements before they are allowed to be sold to civilians. Through legal shenanigans I won't get into (read up on Microstamping) effectively no new handguns will ever legally be able to be sold to civilians in California (Law enforcement and politicians are exempt) unless they were already on the roster and the manufacture pays an extortion tax to keep them legal every year.

Lawsuits are on going, but the state of California has taken the position that the state could off a single handgun, regardless of configuration, price, features, utility, etc. and they still wouldn't violate Heller. This exact situation plays out with with things like Abortion and other rights in different states, but the firearm cases are the most egregious.

>>137173538
props to them for being neutral and running their organization the way they should be.

>>137189010
They only existed for all of 4 years and were at all-out war for the entirety of it, what kind of accomplishments do you think they'd make?

>>137173538
The ACLU literally became known nationally for defending nazis rights to assemble
The left is very short sighted, this affects them as much as anyone. Maybe the next women'smarch should be kettled and driven off the streets like this.

>>137173538
Baked Alaska should press charges on that SPLC guy as well.

>>137173538
ACLU is weird. Often they push leftist bullshit but every now and again they go completely against the left. They did the same thing with firearms rights for the mentally disabled.

>>137189125
>. Every session they push as many laws as they possibly can to regulate firearms out of legal existence. The circuit courts, like the 9th keep letting states get away with it by refusing to actually weigh the laws under constitutional scrutiny. Basically they keep playing legal games
interesting, they seem to be getting too big for their boots

> This exact situation plays out with with things like Abortion and other rights in different states, but the firearm cases are the most egregious
true. what a bunch of evil faggot tyrants

>>137173538
Anyone that shits on the ACLU (except for 2nd amendment reasons) is an idiot. They're one of the few groups genuinely dedicated to free speech, and certainly the most powerful.

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>>137173538
>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/11/aclu-joins-suit-against-charlottesville-over-movin/

>By Andrew Blake - The Washington Times - Friday, August 11, 2017

You are so all very fucking stupid.

>>137173538
NO REFUNDS

>>137179885

since the -soc

Nazism is literally just commie economics with social conservatism instead of social progressivism. Both neo-nazis and antifa are just faggot socialist larpers. All socialists can get fucked.

>>137188042
And now the right is being hijacked by Nazi larping degenerates

>>137190499
Same happened with Jill Stein, heh heh.

>>137190863
This. Nazis are like commies. The only good ones are dead

>>137173538
WHAT TIMELINE IS THIS?

>>137173538
Wew this timeline lads

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>>137179885

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>>137173538
>shanely
CAN SOMEONE EUTHANIZE THIS DUMB CUNT ALREADY????

>>137190863
fuck off you snowflake lolbertarian. 90% of neo-nazis don't give a fuck about economics and are attracted to the traditionalism and heroic idealism.

>>137174524
this so much
btw the nazi book burnings arent against free speech because theyre written by jews and jews and everyone that talks shit about natsoc arent people.

>>137173538
More proof that the (((alt-right))) is a jewish psyop

>>137173538
Gotta respect how Centrist the ACLU is.

They're pro immigrant (even illegal), but will help right wingers when their first amendment rights get trampled.

Respectable in today's political climate, even if some of their ideals are foolish.

>>137177860
> for no reason
Except the reason was because after the first bomb they still refused to give up...

>>137191629
You can venerate your heritage and forefathers by not being a racist cunt idiot

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>>137190863
Your retarded

natsoc was Keynesian economics with a capitalistic economy and mass privatization of movement owned businesses. The word provisional comes from the Nazi's because of how much government things they sold to the public

>>137191629
>fuck off you snowflake lolbertarian. 90% of neo-nazis don't give a fuck about economics and are attracted to the traditionalism and heroic idealism.

That's just basic conservatism and traditionalism. Nazism is an ideology that encompasses both Social traditionalism as well as a socialist state.

POL GET IN HERE OPERATION DEATH BLOW YOUR FUHRER CALLS ON YOU ITS HAPPENING!
>>137188374

,,

>>137173538
The fuck is going on.

>>137176684
>/pol/ news network
Why couldn't this faggot get run over? Why does reddit insist on drawing as much attention to this board as they can?

>>137191610

>tfw too intelligent to be smart

being in the aclu must suck
everyone only supports them when they agree with the aclu
literally the "i only pretend to like you when i need something from you" victim

>>137173538
Can we spread this to get the ACLU bankrupted?