Why are Republicans so hostile to electric cars? Check any Breitbart

because conservitards hate change

If my phone battery stops holding a charge after 6 months what makes this battery any different? Gasoline is a more reliable fuel.

>>136945873
Don't worry we will pull your subsidies soon so you will have to pay for your meme car at full price

>>136945873


electric car is the biggest scam.

its more polluting than a regular car during its life cycle because the batteries require toxic substances.

its mass marketed as the way to achieve progress wich is a complete lie knowing its not greener than a regular car.

its really a thing for leftist rich californians that want to show their vitrtue to others leftists.

I'm not really convinced it is a truly organic response. Obviously in policy circles there is an entrenched power aspect [if you control energy, you control power. The goal isn't different for Musk and company.] but I think a lot of it is bot programs trying to signal boost. I genuinely find it hard to believe people would be so desperately attached to a particular propulsion method.

>>136945873
The co2 output it takes to make an electric car is more than you would think and is worse for the environment according to some metrics. The whole electric car thing is kind of a marketing scheme.

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>>136945873
electric cars have been a meme for 20 years and have only recently become viable
the vast majority of people advocating for them have been condescending authoritarian pricks that wanted the government to force regular people to use something worse, instead of people like Musk that are simply making electric cars better than ICE cars
so all the boomers hear "electric car" and they bark what they've known, completely unaware that the game has changed
and the (((libertarians))) have long since been bought off by business interests and they'll just bleat about small government and free markets
strangely enough it also seems that some liberals really hate individual cars, and have been going out of their way to shit on electric cars as well
I suspect that's because they were hoping to use the environmental regulations to force everyone on to public transportation, but along comes Musk and now there's an environmentally-friendly way to retain individuality and freedom of movement

>>136946200
This. Numerals of truth.
Batteries are also that particularly insidious kind of pollution. It's not a green technology at all. Nothing wrong with pursuing the tech but to pretend it is any way superior to gasoline or diesel is ridiculously stupid.

>>136945873
Guess I just don't care for coal powered cars.

>>13694587

>Literally posts picture of two scams

Electricity is just displaced emissions.

Look into homogeneous charge compression ignition. Thermal efficiency is the future of transportation. Electric is a stupid meme that will be remembered as a goofy footnote in automotive history.

there a documentary on car batteries being recycled in TJ mexico. everyone in the town is sick and orange foam runs down the streets when it rains. plus the electricity comes from deisel turbine power plants, mostly.

>>136945873
Lmao electric cars are worse than normal with their fucking batteries, there's ways we can do it, but this isn't it. Also major infrastructure issues when you look and see a gas station on every corner but where the charging stations at?

>>136946500
Tesla cars are worst than ICE cars a million times over.

Even Indian manufactured cars have more luxurious interiors than Tesla car interiors.

Tesla has the cheapest looking interiors out of all cars.

nigger im BALLS deep in tesla stock right now, you better believe i wNt electric cars to succeed

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>>136946341
>your meme car at full price

battery tech will probably advance, and volume will drive the price down.

electric cars are so vastly better than internal combustion that in 50 years it will be like arguing the Model T vs. my old trusty horse drawn carriage. pic-related alone has about 20x as many parts as an entire Tesla.

>>136945984
>ableist

>>136945873
The electric car is a viable meme for the "hip" champagne liberal class.
The problem with batteries is the lithium production (which isn't capable of meeting an expansion of demand) and the exhausted battery recycling, which can only be dumped and buried into the ground (not to mention lithium's toxicity).
They just can't work on large scale numbers and they work best if you have bought into the micro generation meme as well.

Because they are gay

It feels emasculating to use one

>>136947041
Tesla isn't going to lead the way on batteries.

Also, Tesla will declare bankruptcy soon.

They can't keep begging for more free billions forever.

>>136946807
>muh interiors

you can plug the car in and eventually it will drive by itself
people that don't like the spartan interior won't buy it, yet lots of people are still buying Telsas
if/when Tesla gets a vehicle down to the econobox level then the interior will be totally moot

>>136947041
Yeah, but I could afford my Mustang as a second car. I can't afford a Mod S as a first car.

>>136947098
>lithium production (which isn't capable of meeting an expansion of demand)
Neither is power infrastructure, especially in the United States. Incredibly dramatic nuclear power investment and expansion would be required to get everyone in the country into electric cars. Couple that with battery production and manufacturing of these cars and ultimately you're really not doing shit for the environment.

But it's all about FEELING like you're doing something.

>>136946522
>diesel

Dead-end technology that needs phased out forever. HCCI is about to hit road cars and even without a hybrid drive system, wipes the floor with diesels. Cleaner than diesel, but still better fuel economy, better power.

I'm so glad diesel never took off in the US passenger vehicles. Ever been to Europe? Half the cars are diesels and it fucking STINKS, everywhere is nasty. It's like industrial revolution levels of soot everywhere.

>>136947041
Electric cars are inferior in power and size and comfort.

Electric cars will always give their owners range anxiety.

>>136945873
They believe electric cars are the product of Satan

>>136945873
Because electric cars are retarded. CNG is the future.
America has a 600 year domestic supply that is so abundant every state could source locally, you already have infrastructure in place to fill at home (if you have a gas heater, BBQ, stove you can fill your car) and filling stations across the country. Emissions amount to what comes off your stove. It's perfect, includes no gook/nigger lithium sourcing. Total independence.

https://youtu.be/KeRg217H_3A

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>>136946661
> homogeneous charge compression ignition

>>136947023
Not investing in Mazda when every car company starts licensing their new engine.

>>136945873
Because without government subsidies these cars wouldn't be on the general market. Also, they are for city fags- 100 mile range = second vehicle. And then the whole cobalt mining and slavery deal is ironic.

>>136947334
>HCCI is about to hit road cars and even without a hybrid drive system, wipes the floor with diesels.
Thank Christ for Mazda. First the RX-7, then the MX-5, now they're saving ICE and condemning electric to another hundred years of irrelevance. We don't deserve them.

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>>136947152
>It feels emasculating to use one

how can the quickest acceleration production car feel emascualting? can't you just play a recording of obsolete motor tech on your sound system to feel like a man? maybe add some aftermarket vibration equipment, and carry a propane burner for the fumes?

>>136947223
>Tesla will declare bankruptcy soon.

tesla may crash and burn but everyone else will not. if the battery tech is improved it's game over.

>>136947244
>I can't afford a Mod S as a first car.

the price will drop as volume grows. if the battery tech can be improved it will be like comparing a gasoline powered smartphone to a wait wut

How do you drive cross country in an electric car?
Stop every 500 miles for 8 hours to recharge?

likely because they have stakes in the global oil economy

I mean, cucking saudi arabia and/or any other country that relies on oil for 90% or more of their income would start world war 3. :^)

>>136947404
>Inferior in power

I don't think you know what that phrase means.

Electric cars are amazing because they offer 100% of available torque at any speed.

There's a reason why the P100D can kick the shit out of pretty much any car that costs less than $250K.

>>136947242
>and eventually it will drive by itself

Tesla cucks sure love using the word eventually just like their god of cucks, Musk.

>yet lots of people are still buying Telsas

Big difference between pre-ordering and buying.

>if/when Tesla gets a vehicle down to the econobox level

That's a big if.

>>136947513
There is no vroom, there is no satisfaction from pumping in gas and changing gears. It's like driving a tram.

(Also not everyone has a garage. Do those who live in apartments just hang a cable out the window at night?)

>>136945873
because gas works fine

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>>136947404
>Electric cars will always give their owners range anxiety.

allways? what if the range is 1000 miles?

my whole gripe is that nobody wants to have a battery change station, like EVERYONE does with cordless tools. you pull in, some device pulls your battery and pokes a new one in in the time it takes to pump gas.

>>136947404
>inferior in power and size
Isn't one of the big selling points of a Tesla that it has two trunks because it doesn't need an engine compartment? Also I believe electric cars have all of their torque available from rest just like steam cars did.

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electric cars typically inferior to regular cars while being twice to thrice the price. That's the conservative reason. Electric cars are getting better, but the people who were shilling them in, say 2005, well, they were basically 40k go carts that struggle to go 50 and break down every month.

>>136945873
They're shitty cars and unreliable

>>136945873
We care about the environment.. Google lithium mine

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>>136947654
>Do those who live in apartments just hang a cable out the window at night?)

when every car is EV, every parking spot will have a universal charger.

it's the future, people.

>>136947502
You should see the amount of lefty tears when Mazda made the announcement.

>>136947513
Only scrawny limp wristed cucks drive electric cars.

Musk's livestream revealed all you beta Musk worshippers.

>>136945873
range sucks, unproven tech, god awful design, no sound.

E-cars are gay

>>136947513
>if the battery tech is improved it's game over.

That's a big if and totally dependent on the world's supply of rare earth metals and minerals which China has a monopoly on.

America's last rare earth mining company already declared bankruptcy and shut down due to China.

>>136947773
>every parking spot will have a universal charger.
>parking spot
>Manhattan

>>136947804
They're researching HCCI for their wankels. Could be looking at an RX-9 with a fraction of the environmental impact of a Tesla and several times the range. Imagine that, a green and efficient rotary.

>>136946359
>batteries require toxic substances
>because carbon monoxide is good for you :D
luddite cancer, consider selfkill

>>136947639
Lefty cuck doesn't know the difference between power and speed.

No one is gonna haul loads on electric cars.

>>136948038
Aren't they ditching lithium in favour of graphene paper as the next gen thing.

>>136947804

I'm lefty as hell but I'm also a car guy. If ICE dies on cars I guess I'm buying another motorcycle. Electric cars need a revolution in battery technology to be worth anything.

>>136947678
>what if the range is 1000 miles?

Again, you keep fantasizing about your science fiction batteries that will never happen.

>>136947697
No one cares about two trunks when cross overs still offer more space than a Tesla car.

>>136945873
>Car has no balls
>Car has no range
>Cant haul lumber or stone in an electric car
Go ahead and buy it if all you do is drive from whole foods to the antifa meeting to the poz party. I need to carry shit around.

>>136945873
I don't really know. I think I'm somewhat conservative if not full blown social nazi and I keep seeing "conservaties" use anything to try and ruin electric cars. I don't understand why they resist this change so much. It's only good even if not for "global warming."

and fuck lithium being bad for the environment because of muh mining. They don't mine lithium you fucking idiots.

>>136947975
>no sound
In the early days this was seen as a major advantage for steam over ICE. I think you'd find, assuming comparable convenience, price, and availability, that the majority of consumers would not view the lack of noise as a negative.

>>136947513
>quickest accelerating car
With a 1 foot roll start.

>>136945873
I'm hostile to electric cars only because im afraid of stricter laws for gasoline cars

sure the teslas are fast but i don't know how you can compare that to the feeling of fire and hot iron

>>136948148
Yes goy its better to buy a glorified botnet powered go cart which will have mandated ride sharing

Tesla should fucking burn

>>136948292
>when cross overs still offer more space than a Tesla car.
Do they?

>>136945873
because it doesn't have loud noises to distract people from noticing their small penises

>>136948297
Driving from whole foods to antifa.. hahahahahahahaha hahaha

>>136947646
>Big difference between pre-ordering and buying.

the Tesla S is a "luxury" car
luxury car owners love wood paneling, nice trim and build materials and all that bullshit
they have thoroughly criticized Tesla for it's disappointing interiors
yet the Model S has been selling well
the Model 3 has a fucking Ipad in the middle of the dash which has caused some people to bail yet people are still hyped over it

>That's a big if.

lithium ion battery cells are declining in price every year
the writing is on the wall
when an electric car reaches a certain price point most will jump over; it will resemble smartphone adoption in the late 2000s where over a few years they went from nothing to virtually all new phone sales

>>136948472
Yes. Teslas have high floors and centre of gravity due to the batteries being under the floor panels (where the driveshaft tunnel would be on a non gay vehicle)

>>136948102
>They're researching HCCI for their wankels.

Rotary is dead. SKYACTIVE-X is a piston engine design.

We're really seeing engine tech move forward and it's wonderful.

>>136945873
It seems pointless since the car requires gas to be produced in the first place. But as a Conservative, I say whatever build your cars. Just don't try to legislate everyone else once you have them.

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>>136948556

laugh all you want. your wife's sons will grow up saying "whirr whirr" instead of VAROOM VAROOM".

real men are not defined by their car anyway.

>>136945873
They're basically useless at this point. Unless your power comes from a renewable energy source, you're still burning fossil fuels (Probably more than if you just bought gasoline), not to mention that the electric car's manufacturing process is far more wasteful and toxic than regular cars. So electric cars usually just end up being counter-productive, harming the environment more than gasoline cars. This isn't even mentioning convenience issues like range and the availability of charging stations.

>>136945873
With the current fueling infrastructure they still implicitly offer much less independence than gas vehicles. Cars are the modern horse in the minds of conservatives (personally I think horses are better, they only need grass and water), and the shorter one's range-to-refuel, the more tethered one is to society. Currently, their concerns are actually merited.

A smart marketing campaign in the future will point out that electricity is much more plentiful, cheap, and easily scavenged or autonomously generated than gasoline. I can't wait for the day that we have electric stations at every highway exit, and batteries that get 500 km on a single charge, and cars with supplemental solar cells embedded in the paint.

>>136948766
>implying they'll be allowed to own property

>>136945873
I don't want people to be forced to drive cars they can't do any kind of fighting in. The main problem with electric cars is their fans want to ban anything else.

>>136945873
I don't hate electric cars. I don't hate any tech.

I hate the commies who don't even buy them yet fully intend to steal my wages to subsidize their 'development'. Their our certainly applications for both technologies, so get out of the way and let the invisible hand of the free market allocate them accordingly.

>>136947334
Top kek

>>136948971
It's because of environmental concerns. People don't want to ban them for no reason

>>136948747
>It seems pointless since the car requires gas to be produced in the first place.
It's far more efficient to produce electricity in a factory and transfer it to batteries than to have a mini generator in your car

You can't tow or haul anything with electric cars. They have the torque for it, but current battery technology isn't good enough to get any distance out of the vehicle. Even if electric vehicles become more popular, diesel and gasoline engines will still be around for pickup trucks.

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>>136945873
/o/ fag here

drive a 5 speed 5.7liter powered camaro

you can FEEL the rods and the pistons turning the crank and the wheels

i just really cant explain the feeling to you fags

the heat, the smell, the animalistic roar. no electric car can ever reproduce that, but electric cars also stand to KILL that feeling, and thats why the FUKKIN SUCK!!!!

posting my car on pol so i can get my windows smashed in by a tolerant liberal

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>>136949255
>you can FEEL the rods and the pistons turning the crank and the wheels
>i just really cant explain the feeling to you fags
>the heat, the smell, the animalistic roar.

you just wrote the perfect parody of yourself. that has to be some sort of moron singularity.

>>136947404
Well, the technology of e cars are quite primitive compared to gasoline powered cars. In the future however, gas would be replaced by electricity mainly because electricity is abundant and doesn't require drilling down into the mantle.

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>>136947513
>how can the quickest acceleration production car feel emascualting?
nigga tell me this car doesn't look fucking gay

>>136949392
Go get your groceries and makeup

>>136949255
Nice mags, faggot. What are you from Indiana?

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>>136949564

that is not a cool looking car. but I have not posted anything about styling, just inevitable tech.

it's like when overhead valve tech became viable. flatheads died overnight. same will happen if battery tech gets good enough.

>>136947041
I can refuel my Toyota with gasoline in less than 5 minutes and resume traveling. How can you do that in a pure electric?

At minimum, we should be concentrating on small diesel/electric hybrids running on biofuels where the diesel simply generates electric when needed either for range extension or demand.

Thinking a pure battery powered car would solve the worlds energy and pollution problems is lunacy. Conservatives know this and also know solutions lie in between.

>>136945873
>Why are Republicans so hostile to electric cars?

A lot of these "green" projects are scams or really really badly thought-out.

Solyndra got hundreds of millions of govmint moola as a kickback for donations to the Democrat party. It quickly went bust after the owners had too many parties and other frivolous expenses. The Chinese suppliers were the only ones who made money.

How do you think politicians (both Dem and Rep) somehow amass hundreds of millions of dollars on a 170 thousand salary?

Anyway, the right has an inherent distrust of government dictating policy, funding and implementing an industry. It smacks of Soviet-style top-down production plans—utopian but unrealistic—and ultimately disastrous. That sort of planning ignores market forces or even market research.
Govmint officials are experts in bureaucracy only; they should not be the ones who pick the winners or losers.

It's market forces that determine the success of an industry.

>>136945873
An iPhone caused a commercial plane crash,why would I driver a.bigger one?

I can't drive across my state and country with having to spend hours recharging by Tesla

>>136946200
aren't they jiggering up some battery swap stations?

>>136945873
Tell me how many people are willing to wait 30 minutes to charge their vehicle when you van spend a couple minutes filling up with gasoline.

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>>136949943
>How can you do that in a pure electric?

same way people do with cordless tools. swap the battery. it makes a ton more sense than having to park for half an hour on a long trip.

>>136949895
Unless one of the big three battery producers makes that move it won't happen. Currently they are enjoying the big profits off lithium batteries. It'll happen eventually but not nearly as soon as it could.

>>136945873
>electric cars fuck yeah
>fuck the nuclear energy

Leftism is mental illness.

>>136950126
Tesla's battery weighs 1200 lbs.

How did computers change from one giant machine in a corporate office to desktops in every home to phones in everyone's pocket?

Did the government legislate that everyone used them? Of course not, it evolved through innovation provided by the free market.

People will use electric cars when they are good enough for people to buy over gasoline cars. At the moment they are not.

>>136946200
>>136946359
>nirvana fallacy

>>136945873
Guess what would happen to electric cars if all government subsidies were cut and tax credits ended?
Guess what would happen to lithium batteries if strip mining is better regulated?
Guess what the carbon used to create the electricity to charge the batteries, build the factories, and created by workers commuting to those factories is?
Hipster fad that is, at its essence, a Ponzi scheme for virtue signalers.

>>136950404
Pull off in a swapping station.

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>>136950404
>Tesla's battery weighs 1200 lbs.

I'm not suggesting that MarySue do it by herself. And they will get lighter. But even if they don't, it still makes sense to make compatible batteries that are easily swapped by proper equipment. You can still charge them at home, but range anxiety disappears, along with fighting over charging spaces.

>>136948904

> (personally I think horses are better, they only need grass and water)

And proper shelter
And medical care
And they eventually get old and die.

Also get a flat tire on your car. No problem, break out the spare.

Horse breaks a foot. No problem, break out the shotgun.

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>>136949392
I meant non car fags anon, give me a break ive been up all night and im drunk on SAKE!!!!!

alternatively here's your (you), gay boi!!

>>136949802
what would be better in your opinion?

>>136950635
Okay, McCain. Lets just take all those subsidies away from US renewable energy startups and keep giving them to the Saudis.

>they're called electric cars to make them marketable to hipsters

They're coal powered cars

Retard

>>136945873
Republican here.

t. Engineer at Tesla

>>136950323
there aren't nuclear powered cars yet dumb fuck

>>136951059
>They're coal powered cars

which will eventually be solar powered

>>136946359
This sums it up and has nothing to do with "change".

>>136945984
This is a child like world view.

>>136948234
Not him, but how old are you? I was born in 81', & the thought of smartphones was like "lol, star trek comic book pipe dream" shit. I just bought a Cat s60 that's got fucking FLIR built-in...even THAT was a pile dream not even 5 years ago. How can you reasonably believe that battery tech has reached its peak? I'm not saying it will, but I wouldn't be even a little surprised if you could get TWO thousand miles out of one in HALF the time that the guy you're responding to thinks it can. It's crazy for me to see, & I'm not even 40

>>136950670
>>136950793
Tesla killed off the swap program. Not saying they won't bring it back.

The swap idea would require a large cache of batteries and unless there becomes one standard, would also rely on your particular battery being in stock at a location near you.

>>136950845
They also auto-generate new copies.

>>136951271
in theory an electric car, a Tesla powerwall, and a solar panel setup will make it possible for a person to be far more independent from government and society than they are now
I haven't seen anyone in the EV and environmentalist community push this angle at all though

>>136950126
Like I said--lunacy.
Biodiesel hybrid much better idea.

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>>136950670

>driving gas powered car
>need to fill up
>gas station is busy, have to wait 5 minutes for a pump to open up
>gas up myself in 2 minutes
>costs $56. Damn gas is expensive
>drive electric wank-mobile
>gotta swap batteries
>swapping station is busy. Have to wait 2 hours for my turn
>Jim Bob has to partially disassemble my car to hoist out heavy ass battery and install new one. It takes 1 1/2 hours
>he charges me $350 plus recharging fee

Thanks but no thanks.

>>136945873
Electrify isn't a fuel source

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>>136951744
>>Jim Bob has to partially disassemble my car to hoist out heavy ass battery and install new one. It takes 1 1/2 hours

if battery swapping is embraced, it will take 5 minutes max. do you have to disassemble your dewalt drill to swap the battery?

>>136951806
>electrons aren't a fuel source
>burning molecules to break bonds and release energy in the form of heat is

Learn some basic science and you might enjoy life a bit more. Energy is energy and it comes in many forms.

I can't help but notice that all the pro electric car posts all use the words "if" "eventually" "one day" and "in the future".

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>>136952073
>>burning molecules to break bonds and release energy in the form of heat is

i guess next you'll be claiming that electrons can melt steel beams.

>>136952125

is that supposed to be an argument?

>>136952255
i kekled

>>136945873
As long as we have muh Constitution it doesn't matter if we destroy the environment and turn America into Mexico 2.0

>>136952073
Yeah of course electricity is a fuel source, we just pump the electricity straight out of the ground and directly into the cars!

>>136949151
Over its entire life, an electric car will pollute only half as much as an IC car. If they really want to stop pollution, they need to do something about the ships, which pollute several times what all the cars in the world does, and all the plastic crap that people throw out, especially in third world countries where there's no landfills or trash service, and force china and india to stop spewing out brown clouds.

And if they really really want to eliminate it, they need to kill off a ton of people regardless of the economic cost. The push for electric cars and autonomous cars is really motivated by restricting you movement.

>>136952446
Yes, burning coal and making batteries is green as shit, eh?
Giant dams that destroy the ecosystem in a 10,000 sqaure mile radius
Or nuclear, that's perfectly safe - but greens hate it

>>136952919
Well I'm in the pro-nuclear camp but I'm not an eco-warrior at all. I just hate the retards who oppose environmental friendliness on account of left wing support for eco-friendly policies

>>136945873
You lose any amount of control to the point that progressively the car becomes a thing you use to move around, but have no other say on it. You depend on the grid much more, it's impossible to repair it, can be changed remotely by the car company, hacked, controlled remotely by security enforcement etc.
Republicans like to pretend they are against this loss of control for the individual, although of course they also work for the final plan of enslavement

>>136949943
this. nobody ever thinks HOW we produce the electricity to power these cars, let alone the hassle of the hours spent recharging them.
furthermore, once everyone depends on the electric company and the federally owned grid to power their cars, control over the individual on part of the government/elite rises exponentially.

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>>136952255
anon kun rate my vehicle on aesthetics pls

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>>136953736

Nice. I like the early Camaro/Firebirds a bit more though.

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>>136953919

something about that metallic blue was close to perfection for a year or three

>>136945873
They're not, they're hostile to government mandates telling me I have to give my money to a fucking corporation they have stock in so they can get rich while I grow poorer. I don't need an electric car, gas is cheap and my current car works perfectly. Why should I replace it? I don't care if some island niggers in africa get flooded out, the same as I don't really care if people get killed by tornadoes. If you live in tornado ally you know what the risk is. If you live on an island with the highest point being no more than 2 feet above sea level then too fucking bad. Oceans rise and fall. They always have.

>>136946341
You are the stupid motherfucker that has a bunch of outdated, oversized tech in their house. Its like those fags that splurged on $10,000 plasma TVs when $400 LCD tvs were a couple of years away. The first to adopt tech are always the ones who subsidize it, not the ones who wait until the tech matures.

>Not ditching electric vehicles in favor of a suitable diesel bug-out pick-up

All of you will be fucked when an EMP hits. Daily reminder that the less computerization your vehicle has, the more likely it will run in a post-apoc, post-EMP, or post-nuclear scenario.

Republicans tend to live more rurally and drive pickups and thus the low-range electric car does not fit their needs.
Plus they're just plain fun to make fun of.
>I'm an electric car! I don't go very fast or very far. And if you drive me, people will think you're gay.
>ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
The average "affordable" electric car will not perform like a tesla sports car. The perception that electrics are effeminate and limp-wristed will remain due to this fact.

Get a good battery swap station infrastructure in and you'll win some conservatives over. Charging on the road, considering how long it *currently* takes, will never be viable unless charge stations have MANY times more bays than gas stations.

You'll never win over the guys who drive with diesel tanks in the bed of their truck. You'll also never win over the guys who value image.

>>136951154
ENGINEER AT TESLA?

Yo, any new, spicy info about the model 3 that we dont know sbout yet? I cant fkn wait another whole year man goddamn

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>>136953919
thanks dude :)

I like the first gens too, i think it would be cool to own a 50 year old car, but the third gen is so a e s t h e t i c and plus mines an 89 so we were being born at the same time =)

As we speak, jap is promising solid state battery in three years, mass production. This would be huge game changer for electric cars. Charge times would drop. Stable battery capacity would reamain stable. And best of all, Electric cars recarging stations can be rised everywhere, because all you need is industrial level electricity connection. Imagine, you go to shop, on shops parking lot you plug your car, and go shopping (could be work, meal, coffee, sleeping in hostel), and when you return, you simply pay, and go. Need for dedicated powering stations eradicated.

It's pretty simple OP, I don't want to spend 30-60mins at a charging station.
I want to be at a petrol station 5 mins maximum.
I'd also not like to stop 3-4 times on a long journey.

>>136945873

republicans love the jews and there's hardly anything more jewish than big oil

>>136953180
But electric cars aren't environment friendly.

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>/pol/'s main two reasons for disliking electric cars boil down to "dere gay" and "liberals like so its bad"

Wow positively causes one to ponder.

Because they are funded by big oil, you stupid fuck.

>>136945873
Because all the lobbyists and oil companies support the republicans. They don't want anything to take away from their bottom line.

>>136945873
Because the government wastes money on subsidies to make it affordable. If they were able to compete in a true free market there would be no problem.

>>136945873
>Check any Breitbart comment section
>Breitbart

Why the fuck should I do there? Fuck off nigger!

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>>136950445
Computers are kind of a terrible example because of the vast untapped potential of information and materials technology at their start. Electric cars meanwhile can only advance in small increments because of hard physical limits.

But I completely agree that any solutions should be dominated by economics rather than politics.

Electrical cars dont go vroom vroom

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>>136945873
They don't change anything unless we change baseload power to nuclear. It's great moral posturing, but you'll have to pay for the charging stations and the expense of plugging it in once you get home from work.

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>>136945873
Brainwashed to shill for corporations that have an invested interest in the continued use of fossil fuels

>>136946341
Yeah because soon enough nearly all cars available for sale will be "meme cars" lmao

gee electric cars aren't even environmentally friendly AND they have pathetically short range

it's like "oh no, peak oil" -> proceed to strip mine lithium like there's no tomorrow

"environmentally friendly"

>>136946359
As long the battery doesn't change, even v8's are cleaner.

also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6pVnV5ehJE

>>136945873
because they are technically inferior and more expensive all at the same time and the only way to justify their existence is imaginary psuedo science doomsday predictions.

136958244
>Yeah because soon enough nearly all cars available for sale will be "meme cars" lmao
and why is that Sweden? because for some fantastical reason the governments are forcing internal combustion engines out

seems like a pretty strange decision since electric cars aren't actually any better than ICEs, so what's behind it?

I personally think they're trying to roll out electric cars + autonomous cars all in one... give you a car with no steering wheel that can only drive where Google tells it to, AND it has pathetically short range that can only be supplemented by "the grid"

>>136958350
yeah, that is the other reason electric cars suck. I have a 2010 ram just like the one in the youtube video (aside from being a different trim and being several years older) - you can't replace my Hemi with a fucking electric motor lol

the hemi is too delightful... although 12mpg

>>136958204
Less dependence on the availability and import of oil from shit countries is a good thing

One problem at a time, the fact that solving one issue leaves another related issue still unresolved isn't an argument for doing nothing. You are correct that people who hate nuclear power but think that electric cars will save the world are being unrealistic, though

>>136948648
>lithium ion battery cells are declining in price every year
it doesn't matter how much they decline in price if there are not technological advances to get the energy density on par with gasoline. if there ever is a shift towards more people using electric cars this will reduce demand for gas, reducing prices, and thus making gas cars more attractive so the stupid people buying electric (europoor cucks if their masters get their way) are just subsidizing gas for the smart people who stick with proven tech.

>>136945873
>The co2 output it takes to make an electric car is more than you would think

Because of this meme. The CO2 output it takes to make a standard car is never considered, only the fact that it requires some CO2 to make electric. Once we have factories and mining equipment that can run on solar the CO2 foot print to make the cars will drop even more.

>>136948148
Those batteries don't charge themselves, dimwit.

The left is really pushing an anti-car campaign.
It is really bad in Germany, which ironically is completely dependant on the car industry.

I think Tesla's are cool, but Elon Musk milks corporate welfare like it's going out of style.

>>136952035
I don't think you have an appreciation for how large and heavy these batteries are. The likelihood of them getting smaller anytime soon is unlikely because, as battery tech improves, electric car manufacturers will opt for increased range over a smaller battery.

>>136947334
Combine this with camless engines and soon the hybrid meme will finally be over.

>>136947502
>rx7
Oh god not a rotaryfag.
Get back to your containment board

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>>136960514

our battery technology is too shit for electric cars to be viable. also facebook on wheels.

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>>136959254
Here's why electric cars are a left meme:
The battery problem is a fact. It's not getting fixed anytime soon, batteries aren't computers and you can't double their effectiveness every few years. You need to discover a completely new battery type everytime you want to increase its capacity and it can only hold so much energy and as we approach the maximum it's going to stall.
This means electric cars will always have a limited range. This leads to two things:
1) High urbanisation. If you can't drive far, you can't live far away, this leads to tightly packed cities. Not only are they easier to control, but also look at how urbanised areas vote.
2) Dependence on civilisation. If you care about your guns so much, you should care about your cars as well. What good is the ability to defend yourself when you can't move anywhere. If you have an old diesel you can pour anything in it and if you don't you still can have range in the thousands by carrying some fuel in the back. Also police chases like in the movies are a meme. In real life they just follow far behind until you stop. Lower range means less time to escape.

Electric cars is an amazing idea (low noise, high efficiency, high acceleration, mechanical simplicty etc..), but I'm not sure current battery tech is up to scratch. I think it will be within 20 years or so though. Fancy graphene super-capacitors and such.

>>136946200
They come with 5 year battery warranties.