>retards on this board genuinely think unregulated Capitalism

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>>136918876
>/pol/
>shilling for ((((CAPITALISM))))

Lurk moar, leftypoz queer.

>>136918876
Well yeah...They're retards....Sooo, yeah.

>>136918876
>using the housing bubble as an example in favor of government intervention
lul

>>136918876
>housing bubble
>(((federal reserve)))

nigga what?

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>>136918876
I genuinely think you're a fucking nigger.

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>>136918876
>Asian Sweatshops
Literally the result of overregulation in Asia.

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>>136918976
he's shilling for socialism you asstwat

I do agree about the third option tho

Capitalism is God Tier without Jews

>Three Mile Island
New tech regardless of system can fail
See Chernobyl

>Love Canal
Looks like when it was transferred to the government and was no longer private property that it became a problem

>Housing bubble
Entirely caused by the FED and government

>Asian sweatshops
Lifted millions out of poverty

>A.I.G
Protected by government and government regulations

>Ford Pinto
Protected by government regulation

>>136918876
Soooo government enabling of self-destructive corporations is the answer?

In all those situations, the government forgave or even bailed out those corporations while leaving their customers/victims to suffer. Instead of letting those companies die or face the consequences of greed, they gave them more power. Maybe less, government envelopment would have help in those situations.

>>136919420
Jews are like hackers in video games, they fucking ruin everything for everyone because they can't compete without cheating the system.

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>>136919638
They've literally been doing it since the middle ages.

>"Oh vey, they goyim aren't allowed to charge interest by orders of the Catholic Church"
>"Hey Vinkleberg, what say you and I open up a bank and charge these suckers for all they're worth. It's not like we'll have any competition."

>>136919461
Thats a solid BTFO of OP

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>>136919420
>>136919638
both of you are fucking retards. Jews just happened to be at the top of the totem pole in terms of intelligence. Take them away and another group takes their place. You actually think white people are good boys who dindu nuffin and would be good goy capitalists? Do business with a Russian, or a Chink, or a nigger and you'll realize the final pill is that capitalism is inherently flawed, but still our best option over being gommie fags.

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>>136919769
I got some too.

>"Us Goyim love cheap plastic crap and free shipping!"
>"Invest in Amazon stock? Yes! Let's feed a corporation tons of money, enable them to destroy every business/job in our town, and crush any possibility of owning our own assets and creating generational wealth for our own families."

>>136919486
That talking point is so over simplified. The reason why the government bails out companies is because large companies are generally intertwined with various aspects of the economy. If they go down, then it'll call the change reaction that could potentially implode our society. AKA too big to fail.

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>>136920119
Apparently the USA has a law that prevents people who own less than a million dollars in total assets from investing in high-risk, high-reward stocks. It's supposed to "protect the poor from themselves", but let's be honest, it's really some Jewish law made to prevent newcomers from becoming wealthy.

>>136919988
Its not just intellegence. It is also social cohersion that makes the diffrence.

>>136920237
Exactly. The government should stop allowing monopolies to freely do as they please. Like actually enforce anti-trust laws. Letting them fail will make any corporation think twice about over expanding and acquiring so much. They must learn from failure instead of postponing it to another date. It's a vicious cycle.

THANKS OBAMA

Free market hasn't been a thing since before 1913, when (((they))) can print currency - half of every transaction is manipulated.

>>136919047
I know it really is quite hilarious.
Under unregulated capitalism the bankers who caused the housing bubble never would have been bailed out.
The housing bubble was created while there was a "regulating" government in place, so what is this fools argument really?

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>>136920334
>"YES, stay in your lane goy, just stick to blue chips. 12% a fantastic return on investment! At least until I dump my shares and you lose your house! With Jews, you lose! ahahaahaha"

>>136918876

>3 Mile Island
No measurable damage.

>Housing Bubble
Caused by government forcing banks to give out subprime loans and ensuring them against defaults

>Asian sweatshops
Asians were better off living in squalor under Mao, right, lmao

>Ford Pinto
Only commies still care about the Pinto. Buy a 5-star crash test rating car, you shit.

>>136918876
I don't get the three mile Island image, do leftists not know what Cooling towers do, they do understand that is steam, not smoke

Lets look at a planned economy:
>Chernobyl
>Holodomor
>any commie car ever made
>forced labour in slave like conditions

Capitalism is just fucked no matter what, these classcucks blame the Jews when's it's the system that exploits them

>>136918876
You do realise that the consequences of capitalism (i.e. Failure) is a feature and not a bug, right?

>>136921490
Why is capitalism fucked?
I think it's pretty great.
Computers have become so affordable.
Poor people have big flat screen TV's.
If you work hard and get a good job you don't have to live in a shitty little ghetto, All thanks to capitalism.

So honestly I'm just curious, What is your idea of an incentive structure in your ideal world?

What makes a Dr want to be a Dr. when they could do a much easier job for the same reward

>>136918876
>unregulated Capitalism

Funny. Every single one of those examples was heavily regulated. It's almost as if regulation causes the abbarant behavior...

>>136918876
Yes, I support communism 100 percent. Not because of any economic advantages, oh no; it's because queer shitbags like you will get thrown in the gulag or gassed. Capitalism was a mistake because it gives progressive fucks like you a platform. In North Korea, people keep their fucking mouths shut like they're supposed to. So yeah, preach on "comrade."

Come Civil War: Part II, I'm going to cut the throat of every liberal I find.

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>>136921869
He's probably some minimum wage cuck. Most of the commies on here are.

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>>136919461
Doing God's work, son.
>>136921869
Faggots like OP hate capitalism because they don't want to work for a living and would rather live off of gibs.

>>136918876
I don't think it is. It is clear that the USA was better before 1973.

>>136921869
Capitalism is not bad necessarily, market worship is bad

>>136922322
Who worships the market? We merely recognized the market for what it is, the entirety of people who are exchanging with one another, and we believe that economic decisions can be made better on that decentralized scale than from some centralized bureaucrats.

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Capitalism is the economic emissary of Greed + Gluttony

Communism/ Socialism is the Economic Emissary of Envy + Sloth

Authoritarianism, Autocracy, and Theocracy is the emissary of Wrath + Pride

Patriarchy is of Lust


>How do we move beyond these flawed systems of Human ego, /pol/
Socrates says "All i know is that I know nothing" He, like all Religious Mystics wish to remove the EGO and become one with the universe itself - as the Universe is also the one - as described by Plato's Cave Analogy.

>>136918876
If the majority of people can agree that those are bad things, then that majority of people will fix it. Why do we need a govt doing it if the people can? If the problem still occurs, the then the people don't care enough to fix it.

Keynes wasn't a complete fool, he certainly was correct about many aspects of government oversight, but his colleague and former friend as a soldier, Friedrich Hayek, knew how best to implement the correct policies.

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>>136922948
The Chicago and Keynesian schools make sense theoretically, but they have one major weakness, they rely on the competence of the government to work, which is asking A LOT from bureaucrats.

>>136918876
>Capitalism
>3 Mile Island, Zero Deaths, zero long term contamination
>Communism
>Chernobyl, several deaths and area is still uninhabitable to people due to radiation
Really makes me think

>>136918876
No we don't. Where do all the shills that think /pol/ is a fan of unrestricted capitalism we've been getting lately come from?

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Capitalism is the greatest engine for lifting people out of poverty that was ever invented. Socialism is the greatest engine for human misery that was ever invented. Cast it down and burn it as you did the institution of slavery.

>>136923459
Sometimes I can't tell the difference between the Nazis and the Bernouts

>>136922532
You are yourself. You will always be yourself. You may flee yourself to the ends of time, but in the end, god will judge you as yourself. You are you. Be you. What do you want out of life? How can you serve your desires in a way that is beneficial to others? How can you serve others in a way that is beneficial to yourself? The essence of unleashed capitalism is harmony among men. The invisible hand works to turn our vices into virtues.

>>136918876

Hate to tell you m8, but most of those things were cause by regulation.

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>asian sweatshops

But aren't those a globalism thing? The thing men like Trump are exactly against of?

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>>136923920
They're not even really a globalist thing, they're just a regulation thing, you don't see sweatshops in places like Singapore, Botswana, or Chile, because the economic freedom allows competition which prevents sweatshops.

>>136918876
Exactly how unregulated and "left alone" are nuclear power plants? I also live close to Love Canal. The town forced Hooker Chemical to sell the land even though the company tried to be responsible and warned them it was dangerous.

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>>136923697
>"god will judge"

What you fail to understand is that I am god - as are you.

God Isn't an "other" he's merely a part of you. You become one with him when you abandon the human "Ego". Christianity's cross Is Jesus abandoning his Ego and allowing him to die knowing that he cannot die. His teachings apply to everyone - we are ALL GODS. Abraham being told to murder his son is him departing from his ego. Jesus preached that he was God - he never refers to himself as the "son of god" that is a creation of later Christianity.

Similarly, Buddism refers to the human spirit as a dualistic One. The ways of the warrior, Bushido, and Chivalry have men dying to better their homelands - ultimately the result of "love". Love allows for one to abandon their own needs (Ego) for the benefit of the universal (their society)

>All is One, One is All
Capitalism sucks - it's just the best thing we have now. Being unable to think beyond it will break us in the end. At the end of the day modern wars are fought because of financial interests. Capitalism is the cult of monetary happiness.

>>136918876
>government control over the federal reserve causing bubbles
>sweatshops offering a higher wage than normal jobs in their commie countries
>a nuclear power plant accident
>a problematic car model from 50 years ago
>real state developers accidentally building on top of a chemical dump
This proves how evil capitalism is. Were they in a socialist society, the greater government control of housing would make bigger houses for a cheaper price, ford engineers from 1970 would be better, there would be no communism in asia so no poor capital development in those countries resulting in sweatshops being the most productive job offer, nuclear power would never suffer accidents, and nobody would need insurance.

>>136919047
>>136920721
Housing bubble is because of globalism

>>136921057
>housing bubble
Chinks+globalism

>Asian sweatshops
I only care because they take jobs away from here but also globalism

>ford pinto
It was actually a decent car considering they were trying to get better gas mileage because of the oil embargo other than the fire flaw and eventually ford fixed that part of them

>>136921466
A few communist made cars were actually pretty good (KGB spec Volga for example) however the average person could never obtain them

>>136921869
Problem with capitalism is how its lead to open borders and mass migration which if left unchecked will lead to the death of the white race

>>136920374
Verbal intelligence is factored into IQ, take that as you will

>>136923595
Lots of people don't deserve to be lifted out of poverty. Nonwhites for example should be kept in their fucking place

>>136923920
>>136924133
Many of the flaws with "capitalism" are actually flaws of globalism

Within the country there should be less regulation but the border needs to be closed and making a profit at the expense of your nations future should be considered treason. Basically globalists should be thrown from the helicopters alongside commies

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>>136920334

dumb animeposter

Wait, you're citing nuclear power and mortgage lending as an example of unregulated industries? You fucking dolt.

>>136918876
>Three mile island
Literally nothing happened, unlike Chernobyl.
>Love canal
Idk what that is
>Housing bubble
Jews
>Asian sweatshops
Regulation
>AIG
Jews
>Ford pinto
Regulations

>>136918876
fascism does NOT believe in unregulated capitalism

>>136918876
the problems with the pinto were literally caused because regulatory standards were put into place right before the production of the pinto started, then changed right in the middle of it.

>>136925614
>>136925614
>>136925614

>>136922167
Capitalism only doesn't work when thieving faggots like the OP steal your money for gibs. I'm living off savings atm because the thought of spending my summer working to support these roaches is just too depressing. It has honestly started fucking with my mental health. Don't worry I have plenty of money. Most of the products I would like to buy are banned here. Why even live?

Are bankers and their interest rates the main problem?

>>136922532
give every man, woman and child a hit of dmt

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>>136918876
Literally only the Ford Pinto is an exampleof what you're talking about. The rest are either the direct result of governmental policies, or as a result of irregularities made in the market by the government.

>Love Canal

A chemical company purchased disused land with the explicit goal of using it for chemical disposal. The government body sold the land to them. 10 years later, the government had built houses up to the land, and the (government) school district wanted to buy the landfill to build a school on it.

The chemical company sold the land back to the government, stating clearly that the land had been used for landfill and that they were washing their hands over it being used for anything else.

It caused shitloads of health problems, and caused increased legislation over liability of companies. Literally;

>you sold the government something which turns out the government doesn't want and is annoyed so the government punishes all future companies for the governments mistake.

And this is the fault of Capitalism...?

>>136920721
>>136919047

>make government backed housing loans so niggers who can never, EVER pay off their loans can get houses
>muh capitalism when it fails
>make government backed education loans so niggers who can never, EVER learn anything can get college degrees
>muh capitalism when it WILL fail

Just remember, goy. Everything the government does is white people's fault.

>>136918876
>housing bubble
How do you retards think you're in a housing bubble? I could buy a house in the US for a weeks pay.

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>>136918976
Capitalism argues for more private control of production, and a smaller government
Socialism argues for more government control of production, and a larger government.
What is this third way you propose? Keeping the state the exact size it currently is?

>>136925159
In what way? The people taking out the mortgages were US citizens. The banks were US Banks. How was it the fault of globalism?

>>136918876
>Three mile island
Occurred because hippies effectively block updating and constructing new safe plants.
>Love canal
>Housing bubble
>AIG
>Ford pinto
These are all things that occurred after the creation of the Federal Reserve when the US economy became more socialized, and shouldn't be used as examples of why you think capitalism doesn't work.

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>>136922322
The market is great as it helps people decide how best to live their own lives. You can choose to work less hours for less money, so you can spend time with your kids. You can also choose to work longer hours if you don't have kids. You can choose to work in something less lucrative that you are passionate about, or something more lucrative. As long as you can do something others value you can make a living doing whatever you please. Some people make a living reviewing toys on YouTube. Enough people value them doing that, that those reviewers can live comfortably. No bureaucrat would say such a job should exist, but that person made enough money that they can. That's the freedom of the market

>>136927328
Well at least in my country it's the fault of foreign investors from mostly China who may or may not be laundering or using them to store illicitly gotten funds. A foreign ownership ban here would prevent this bubble from exploding but we can't because "das rasist"

>>136925747
If you provide a service that society deems valuable you should be compensated as such. There's a lot of doctors who are Indian immigrants. They contribute more to society than an unemployed white factory worker in the rust belt.

>>136918976
>lmao who needs a medium for the exchange of goods
With that being said, the dollar must go.

>>136920426
>horseshoe fallacy
>confusing neolibs/neocons with capitalists
>putting economics on a backburner because of his ignorance while the cosmopolitans are crashing the world with no survivors
I like Evola, but he's wrong.

>>136920564
Thank you.

>>136925614
Neolibs and neocohens again.
They won't implement full capitalism because they like power and refuse to embrace the natural order.
Theirs is an ideology of the eternal five-year-old when his parents refused to buy him new ice cream after it fell into the sand because he is an incompetent little shit.

>>136925747
Most non-whites (would) have been rendered obsolete by capitalism.
I, for one, embrace capitalism as a form of eugenics.

>>136918876
>He actually thinks super big corporations respect regulations
>He doesn't know regulations only hit the little and medium guy businesses
>He doesn't know politicians are all bought by lobbysits

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>>136918876
wait... hold on.
That is ...
> Asian sweatshops
... Run by communist regimes?
Why not call them communist sweatshops?
CCP blacksite sweatshops?
Sweatshops owned and maintained by brown people?

Witness the slimey race hustling by the left.

Disgusting.
Immoral.

>>136919202
Like socialism is any better.

>>136919072
>wants to make fun of someone
>uses anime
Come on dude

>>136918876
>free market goys conveniently ignoring corporate tyranny

>>136927838
Indian doctors are fucking terrible

I guess we should be compensating all the animals that provide a valuable service then

>>136918876
Why do you show us pictures of disasters that happened when capitalism was regulated?

I mean it's fine to do, but it kind of goes against your point.

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>>136927838
lol you go to an indian dr than you stupid libertarian fucktard, see how well they treat you.

>>136918876
All of those are failures of government or a result of too much regulation or government backed monopolies.
They're all advertised as failure of capitalism by people that want to take away your freedom and use your tax money to pay for their shit.

>>136921466
Do not forget the lac aral

>>136918876
>retards on this planet think we've ever had unregulated capitalism
My opinion is not that capitalism should be wholly unregulated
>retards on this planet don't understand lobbyist corporate funded regulation is still regulation
My opinion is not that corporate lobbying is necessarily corrupt, but most often is
>retards on this planet bitch and moan and bait post instead of joining and strengthening local political groups to join together and lobby their own power to remove corruption
My opinion is not that you're incapable of doing real things for real issues.

The lot of you can't understand how direct and straightforward communication works.
The lot of you hold the morally dishonest opinion that any issue can (and must!) be worded in the simplest way possible

But sure, I'm the retarded one.
Keep on shouting meaningless two sentence quips about complex issues.

Socialism works when it's combined with nationalism to offset the globalist nature of socialism.

>people unironically blame capitalism, globalism, and the chinese for the housing bubble
>not the government for telling banks to stop turning people down for loans

>>136931697

>>136919202
He's not saying that he's shilling for capitalism you asstwat

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The housing bubble was caused by govt regulation that forced lenders to make sub prime loans.
Sweat shops offer third worlders a living other than prostitution that pays far better than farming dirt.
AIG was bailed out BY THE GOVERNMENT and would have gone under in a free market.
Accidents like three mile island and shit would happen with or without state regulation. Shit happens. Without the govt to shield companies from their failures, these companies would be more responsive to consumer feedback. Same goes if they make unsafe products.
This is a shit meme, as is every single argument made by statists against free enterprise.
Try harder, fag.

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>>136918876
>>136918976
>>136919004
Yes, because that keeps leftists and jews from enacting their agenda. Capitalism puts some breaks on that.

The real wage is what matters, and capitalism is an effective tool for creating a high real wage

>>136918876
>communists create sweatshops and slavery like conditions in their factories
>it's capitalisms fault

>>136925747
That's idiotic, poverty is what keep breeding rates in Africa so high.

When a country is brought out of poverty, breeding rates will go down to European and northern American levels within 20-30 years.

>>136918876
OP unironically thinks Government monopolies, government regulatory creations we call "corporations", government mandated central bank fractional reserve fiat banking systems (pyramid scams), and various other GOVERNMENT run disasters represent "unregulated capitalism"...or laissez-faire....
Top kek

>>136919074
>ancap education

>>136919461
>the government wasn't a special perfect NAP respecting state so it wasn't REAL capitalism

>>136918876
No such thing as unregulated capitalism.

>>136920564
Before then we still had economic disasters.

>>136921466
>criticizing laissez-faire capitalism is support for Soviet style communism

>>136921869
>Poor people have big flat screen TV's.
>If you work hard and get a good job you don't have to live in a shitty little ghetto, All thanks to capitalism.
lol

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>>136919461
>FED
the FED is a consortium of PRIVATE BANKS, idiot
he rest of your blather is equally bullshit

>>136918876
>housing bubble
>unregulated

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>>136938456
How am I wrong?

>>136918876
Capitalism is social Darwinism at its finest. I love it.

>>136939640
It's social Darwinism of the wrong traits, your not breeding a better human, your just breeding Jewish traits like Greed,narcissism,backstabbing and general Jewishness.

Instead of nature being the killer it's not being able to scam people out of money

>>136925159
Housing bubble is caused by 2-income families, making houses twice as "affordable" compared to the situation where only men worked the most. It's a great example how women's emancipation has enslaved us a little bit more than before.

I think you're retarded by suggesting it's because of globalism, without any further elaboration, you're right about the major elite city centers where millionaires settle and make houses affordable, but that's only a minor part of the story, and does not explain the doubling in more rural areas.

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>>136939923
Those who work hard or work smart get to live an okay life. Those who work hard and work smart get to live a great life.

>>136920721
Not only would they have never been bailed out the whole bubble probably wouldn't have happened. The biggest reason there were so many toxic sub prime loans was because of government guaranteed loans for housing and the low interest rates of the FED.

>>136940616
Nigger have you even held a job or are you a neet living off daddies money so that's why you believe what you said? The harder you work, the shittier your life will be. The scummier you are or the more scummy people you know, the better your life will be. That's America in 2017, connections matter more than resumes or work performance.

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>>136940851
So then make some fucking connections.

>>136939557
Nice graph of the results of US sanctions you have there.

>>136935122
China is capitalist when one talks about its growth, but communist when one brings up horrible working conditions...
Really makes you think...

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>>136941361
What do you think that graph is showing?

>>136941546
That's because China is slowly becoming more capitalistic, but it still has a long way to go, and despite a large amount of government control over the economy they still smog up the cities with no hesitation.

>>136941750
That's a graph from Allende's Presidency right? The USA has admitted to putting massive sanctions on Chile at the time and funding """"""protestors"""""" to destabilize the country.
>China is becoming more capitalist but shows no sign of stopping the smog
So an increasingly capitalist country isn't doing anything at all to stop a massive environmental and public health problem?

>>136918876
Works way better than communism of fascism, that's for sure

>>136942092
>That's a graph from Allende's Presidency right?
Yes, it's the real wages under Allende.

>So an increasingly capitalist country isn't doing anything at all to stop a massive environmental and public health problem?
Yes, if it became more capitalistic it wouldn't be dealing with this problem, but it remains 111th in economic freedom and so the government smogs up their cities as usual.

>>136920721
It would have never happened in the first place if the (((fed))) didn't produce money out of thin air to give to banks so they can give unlimited loans.
You get taxed two ways by a private bank, the IRS takes its cut of everything you earn, and the money you have now is slowly becoming worthless because they print out money to make loans to make cash.
A private fucking bank runs this country.

>>136920721
This. Just look at student loans and how federal backing caused prices to increase.

>>136942092
The Chinese Government only gives enough of a shit about their people to:

A) Display enough fucks to prevent general revolt
B) keep them working long enough to remain politically relevant
C) keep them working long enough to build up a strong industrial base for future expansion efforts

>>136925854
I think I could jerk it to that blimp.

>>136918876
>three mile island
What happened there?

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>>136942987
One of the reactors went tits up but the safety engineering worked, nothing really bad happened, and the rest of the plant still works to this day. People who use it as a bad example don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

Just about everything bad generated by capitalism was actually caused by a regulation enforced by the government lobbied for by corporate interests. This is an inherent flaw in democracy, not capitalism. The answer is the abolition of the state, not the abolition of capitalism

>>136918976
this is nupol now its ogre

>>136918876
>housing bubble
result of Keynesian fed policy and government intervention
>asian sweatshops
same as above
>A.I.G.
subsidized by government intervention, more recently bailed out- further exacerbating the problem


The voluntary exchange of transactions did not cause these things.

>>136918876
Gommunism XDDD but google dindu nuffing wrong am i rite?
>>136943231
> muh raydiation is raycist

>>136918876
>Thinking any system in the world is without fault or errors.
Well guess which system has actually worked for more then a decade

I will probably end up on welfare programs for health problems, despite eating better than pretty much everyone, I can't even gain weight, so I would not thrive under anarcho capitalism, if not outright die soon, but I still think it would be a good thing for humanity overall

>>136919047
It's great
>Banks didn't want to give loans to the poor since they know they can't pay back the loans leading to losses or a lot of effort to break even
>Government sanctions loans to the poor
>Banks have to go along with it
>15 or so years down the line everyone like clockwork begin to default on their mortgage and declare bankruptcy
My parents too this day still think the banks were greedy and wanted to give all these loans to people who couldn't afford it.

>>136944142

but the US government IS ran by banks so they're right

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>>136918876
> housing bubble
> jamal wants a house
> has no steady source of income, garbage credit, and no reasonable expectation of being able to pay the loan back
> Banks: "lol, gtfo nigger"
> Enter barney frank and other libshits
> "DATS RACIS!!!"
> Literally force banks to give jamal a loan
> Promise that if (when) jamal can't pay it back, they'll have the banks' covered
> Government guarantee, WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
> Fast-forward to Bush administration, time to pay the piper
> There are now thousands of jamals, with thousands of loans
> All unable to pay
> Crisis ensues
> Libshits deflect blame to bush, "muh corporations, muh big banks, muh greed!"
> Proceed to promise even more gibs to solve the problem they created, thus perpetuating the cycle

>>136919461
its almost like the problem was with (((government))) and (((banks))) interfering in industries

really makes you think

>>136925854
>datgas.jpg

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>>136925854
T H I C C

>>136940616
Why do ancap fags hate roads?

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>>136931697
>on 4chan
>complains about people using pictures from the only media not owned by Jews

>>136944874
This

>>136919461
>Lifted millions out of poverty
Is that why they have suicide nets there?

>>136924975
But that's wrong you negroid.

>>136925903
>>Love canal
>Idk what that is
A giant chemical waste dump that became a suburb. And then the poisonings happened.

>>136918876

>he said, living in a capitalist country providing him enough wealth that he is able to shitpost on the internet mid-morning.

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>>136946687
Because we use helicopters instead.

>>136951283
But what about land units?
What about cars?

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>>136951384
Okay, for the non-meme answer we just use privatized roads.

>>136918876
Sadly, the people bitching most about Capitalism are losers sitting at home regretting they don't have a government job.

Left = Free Shit Army
Right = Leave me alone to make my own money

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>>136951454
Does that mean one must pay a toll?
Can you give me a quick run down on the whole Ancap side?
I only know memes of it.

>>136918876
>retards on this board genuinely think unregulated Capitalism is a good thing
Since none of the items in your picture was unregulated, I would say you have no argument.
sage

>>136918876
left alone means
>we will kill all the fags that are responsible for all the shit
too, ya know

So yeah, it would work out perfectly.

>>136918876
>housing bubble was literally created by government regulation
>unregulated capitalism
oooookaaaaaaaayyyyyyy

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>>136951552
For the larger highways that don't get used routinely by people then a toll is likely. For the smaller roads then it's likely they would either be owned by the local businesses/neighborhoods free of charge (to encourage customers and residents), communally owned and funded through things like local crowd-funding, or they would be privately owned and ran on a subscription basis. It's also possible that instead of paying to drive on the road the company would just make you pay to park instead (a lot simpler that way).

>>136919988
>Jews just happened to be at the top of the totem pole in terms of intelligence.
No, Jews cheat. The REPORTED intelligence for them (which is a lie, by the way) is insufficient to explain their level of control. Jews have no consciences and don't care about truth, kind of like you.

>>136918876

Nuclear facilities are so regulated they're basically government entities.

>>136951848
Okay thank you.
What is the (main)difference between ancap and vanilla capitalism?

>>136920537
>The government should stop allowing monopolies to freely do as they please.
It is the government that creates monopolies in the first place. Think about it. What stops another company from making a competing business identical to Google? Right, the government allows Google to SUE THEM FOR COMPETING. "Infringement," they call it.
Take the government out of the equation and Google would not be in control. Any time they tried to shut down free speech, everyone would immediately abandon them and they would go bankrupt.
Basically you're saying we need the government to interfere in business solve a problem that only exists because of the government interfering in business.

>>136918876
Libertarians fight against unregulated capitalism everyday. It comes in many forms: inflation, banks, socialism, cultural marxism, chinese slavery, ban on true speech

>>136951891
>pdate] [Auto] 75
Jewish here. Absolutely true. We cheat. The Talmud pretty much gives us license to shit on anyone to get ahead. It teaches our superiority, that others are lesser beings; beasts and slaves.

This is why most Lefty Jews are hardcore globalists and pro race-mixing. They want everyone part of some dark skinned mass that they can rule over and look down on.

There are about 35% Right-Wing Jews who are very decent people who just want the American Dream and to get along and interact fairly.

Don't discount good right-wing Jews. Our numbers are growing; Prager, Stein, Shapiro, Yiannopolous, etc..

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>>136952010
Ancap is basically just capitalism without the government. It calls for society to follow the NAP (non-aggression principle), which is basically a simple "don't harm me or my property and I won't harm you" kind of rule. It's important to understand that ancapism isn't a fan of a lot of the corporations that exist today, because the oligarchies and monopolies that we see are largely a result of copyright, limited liability, corporate personhood, government contracts, business licenses, eminent domain, tariffs, the Federal Reserve, taxes and regulations, which are all the result of government meddling in the economy.

>>136918876
The Ford Pinto was no more dangerous than other, similar cars of the time.

>>136919461
>lifted millions out of poverty
>lmfao if you're poor just go to jail, it's free food and sleeping

>>136952544
Interesting, but what would stop an Ancap from being the richest entity, and then assert itself to become the leader?
What type of system keeps the Ancap; Ancap?

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>>136952774
Well, that entity would likely be opposed by most of the other rich entities, since living under a government that taxes and regulates them would be bad for business. There's also the fact that the ancaps and their militias themselves would fight the entity, and ruling over a rebelling population is far less profitable than just selling them shit they want and having them work for you voluntarily. The entity would have to hire PMC's to do the conquering, but these PMC's would likely refuse, either out of a sense of morality (like how we trust the US military not to perform a coup even though they totally could if they wanted to) or because they view it as not profitable (since PMC's make bank compared to public militaries, and after the conquering the PMC's would likely be disbanded)

>>136919047
Quite on the contrary

The govt should have left the banks to collapse for their stupidity and arrogance

>>136953548
Sounds a bit chaotic to me, how does it stabilise?

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>>136918876

without referees and rules, most games are not worth playing since only the cheaters would win

for some inexplicable reason having to do with capitalist lobbyist money, republicans think capitalism is an exception

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>>136931697
Where do you think you are?

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>>136919461
>>Three Mile Island
>New tech regardless of system can fail
>See Chernobyl
Possible

>>Love Canal
>Looks like when it was transferred to the government and was no longer private property that it became a problem
Possible

>>Housing bubble
>Entirely caused by the FED and government
Caused by retarded people

>>Asian sweatshops
>Lifted millions out of poverty
No, just no.

>>A.I.G
>Protected by government and government regulations
Yes

>>Ford Pinto
>Protected by government regulation
Yes

>>136918876
>examples of the evils of capitalism
>three mile island
>that time nothing bad happened
Wew.

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>>136954473
I mean, you're assuming that there would be constant attempts to take power, but I think the threat of violence would be enough to suppress the vast majority of these attempts, and the few times that it does happen it will be a minor and short event as everyone teams up and destroys them.

That being said, Ancapistan would HAVE to be filled mostly with ancaps in order to work, and it certainly couldn't tolerate the presence of certain groups like communists (hence the helicopter and physical removal memes). Honestly though, I'm not expecting Ancapistan to be anything other than a microstate, like Hong Kong or Singapore, where a bunch of libertarians and ancaps move to the micro-state, thus filling it to the brim with government ideologues.

>>136919202
>DUES VULT
>0 reading comprehension
sounds about right

>>136955031
>>136954473
>filling it to the brim with government ideologues.
Anti-government ideologues, I mean.

>>136928333
I think you just straw manned his entire quote.

>>136918876
no fucking no

just fucking no

ford pinto is an awesome engine.

im fucking triggered. 9000% mad

>>136938559
Capitalism is free market economics with the lack of government intervention, stop trying to confuse terms with your Marxist newspeak to suit your retarded agenda.

5 of those 6 things are direct results of Government interference

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Unregulated capitalism would be fucking terrible. You can kiss 8 hour work days, workplace safety, child labour laws and benefits goodbye. Corporations would be as utterly cruelly cheap as possible, you would suffer unless you are rich, that is how things were during the early industrial revolution and it is how things will be again if business regulation is ever destroyed.

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>>136955307
>You can kiss 8 hour work days, workplace safety, child labour laws and benefits goodbye
You can also kiss copyright, limited liability, corporate personhood, government contracts, business licenses, eminent domain, tariffs, the Federal Reserve, and taxes goodbye.

>>136955441
Oh wow, all that shit that has ZERO effect on me, great.

>>136955490
Besides taxes of course, but taxes would simply be replaced with rent and protection fees.

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>>136955490
I mean, I guess if you like monopolies and oligarchies you might oppose the removal of those things.

>>136955031
It does sounds a bit Niche, you speak of fear, but what stops Ancap parties to fight together for a dominant position?

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>>136955770
>but what stops Ancap parties to fight together for a dominant position
They're ancap, the majority of them agree to the principle of the NAP so the only way they can fight for dominance is non-violently through economic methods (which is just normal capitalism at work).

>>136955897
But what about movements within the NAP that enables dominant behaviours?

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>>136940851
I have a home and i am able to support my family because I have worked for it. Fuck off commi bed wetter

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>>136955975
Like economic dominance? I mean, that's fine, a monopoly without things mentioned in >>136955441 isn't really a bad thing since the only way they are able to maintain that monopoly is by offering a service or good that is cheaper and better than anything anyone else is able to offer, if they try to abuse their position then they're just gonna invite a ton of competition to rival them.

>>136956309
But what if you can't compete in a market currently present? What if one won't be allowed to join, what then?

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>>136918876

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>>136956652
There's no laws to say you can't join, there's no government or business licenses to prevent you from doing so. It's possible that the competition you face is so good that you could never hope to beat them, but while that may not be good for the aspiring businessman, it is good for the people as a whole since it means the market is efficient and giving the people what they want.

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capitalism is degenerate. Third position all the way.

>>136956970
Are there any examples of Ancap societies that have worked?

>>136918876

>retards genuinely think that being opposed to regulation means you support these things

Not an argument. Also, excessive regulation caused all of those issues.

>>136955307
>implying I don't work 14 hrs a day at least twice a week
>implying I don't do it of my own volition
You are a cuck who doesn't know the meaning of work.

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>>136957240
Gaelic Ireland and the Icelandic Commonwealth.

>>136954756
Obviously he thinks he's on pledbit

>>136957379
Will look into it thanks :3.

>>136918876
certainly better than regulated communism or socialism

>>136918876
>Here are 6 issues caused by government regulations restricting capitalism and companies trying to go around them
>Unrestricted Capitalism is ebil!!!1!one!
I'm so tired of talking to retards.

>>136957002
as someone who live in NYC i can assure you that behind the camera man was an advertisement for breast implants and PrEP AIDS pre-medication.

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>>136957465
No problem.

>>136952212
Well there are competing search engines, they're just not nearly as popular. I actually use duckduckgo for most of my searches unless I'm not finding what I want. And let's be clear, google is primarily a search engine/ad business. The VAST majority of their money comes from ad revenue and that's how they can fund all sorts of crazy side projects with really worrying about actually getting an immediate return on the investment.
You can't exactly copy their patented algorithms and shit but you can try to make your own to do the same thing and you can have email and whatever other services attached like google does. Isn't yahoo still a thing? It's hard to tell since they've been half dead for awhile.

>>136957379
Gaelic Ireland was a tribal shithole, they did some cool stuff culturally but life was terrible.

>>136957827
>side projects with really worrying
without*

>>136918876
>left wing ideologues
>right wing ideologues
I just want to abolish interest slavery

>>136918876
But it is. Most housing bubbles are created by the goverment. Like for example cheaper loans for buying houses. At the same time massive regulations on construction. Demand explodes, supply stays constant and the quickly rising prices attract spekulation. Then when the bubble bursts the governent bails out those that speculated and lost. And a large part of financial speculation is only possible due to the fiat currencies and the ability to create money from nothing. It allows Central banks to lend money that has no backing in any kind of wealth. Also the policy of constant goverment made inflation harms saving money. But saved money is needed for secure and healthy investment. Right now always having debt is incouraged. It exponentially worsens the effect of economic crisis since if someone goes bankrupt a chain reaktion sets in and nobody can pay back their debt. Inflation and deflation naturally follow a cycle.

>>136918876
3 Mile Island was human error. Not really the fault of capitalism. That's like blaming communism for the one in Ukraine.

AIG and the housing bubble is definitely caused by the system though.

>>136957547
Also a picture of a token black man advertising some godawful community college.

Fuck NYC.

>>136958322
This man gets it

(((Usury)))

>>136958583
Who gave out the loans and who backed them? It was financial institutions lookinh for a quick buck. They didn't check credit or anything really because they didn't care. They didn't want to make money off of the loans themselves, they wanted yo make money off selling the loans in packages.

The government only turned a blind eye to them. If they didn't bail them out it would've sunk even harder.

>>136959114
The banks can act that way with the backing of the Federal Reserve and with the knowledge that they will be bailed out if their plan fucks them over.

>>136959238
Not really. A few of them went bust. They don't care because the execs just paid themselves enormous sums before hand. They could just jump out of the fire, and they did.

The government is at fault, but only because they ignored the signs. If they more stringent checks on lending it wouldn't have even happened.

>>136944874
so much this.

>>136940851
Thats also because of goverment. Regulations, licenses, insane tax rates all that shit makes becoming financially indepependant increasingly hard. I has become very hard to build up a cash reserve and invest it. Thats the goal of hardwork. Work hard now so you can take it easy tommorow. Now the only way to get is ahead for many people is the scummy way.

>>136918976
>>136919202
> the only cure for capitalism is (((national socialism))) because it's totally different from all the other marxist socialisms out there...
> see it's got (((national))) right in the name, so it's totally different!!
nice one comrade.
these stupid capitalist pig-dogs will never figure out that (((national socialism))) is the same old marxism in a shiny new box!

good work comrade, i send you to gulag last.

>>136956955
Write "big gov" or "fed" on the guy's hat and you get Zyklon Ben

>>136926971
> I could buy a house in the US for a weeks pay.

maybe in downtown detroit, where you can buy a hose for pocket change (seriously, theres houses for sale in detroit for less than a dollar!) but youll have to live in a ramshackle hovel that has been used as a crack den or heroin flop for decades, in the middle of detroit, surrounded by niggers

if thats what you want, come on in ya silly cunt, welcome to the party.

>>136918876
While anarcho-capitalists are retarded (army, police, emergency services, elementary education and very basic healthcare should be tax-funded), unregulated capitalism is a good thing.

>>136927328
> the banks were us banks...
the "securitized mortgage swaps" were traded internationally
the shitty worthless paper was permitted thanks to bubba clinton, the biggest internationalist cuck ever to shit in the oval office crapper
pushed by ((( barney frank))), noted internationalist sodomite
expanded by Bwana Obama, kenyan interloper, secret muzzie, and marxist agent, who bragged about his internationalist street cred and spent more time worrying about what the EU africa and asia want than what america needs

so, yeah, internationalism pushed the mortgage bubble to the limits of economic survivability.

>Capitalism is too hard

>Can the state just take over and run my life for me please? It will be fine, all the cool hollywood celebs say so

Scientific fact: socialism is for modern retards who have no appreciation for the world that capital industry has given them.

>>136929707
FUCK WHITE PEOPLE/
STOP FUCKING FEEDING AND CLOTHING THEM AND WATERING THEM AND THOSE WEEDS WOULD DIE.
White people the only ones with an identity guilt.
Fucking race traitor deserve to get stoned to death.

>>136955537
But you dont have to pay those. If you live in a save area and are armed you can protect yourself. Or get very cheap protection. If you own land you dont have to pay rent. And you already pay rent now too. Besides nothing would stop you from building a small affordable house. No regulation. Ultimatly its about freedom and self responsibility.

>>136959114
> dominican doesnt understand what happened...
fucking typical.

heres what went down.
1: banks not lending to shitty risks with shitty credit trying to buy houses the bank KNOWS will end in forclosure

2: das racist!!

3: govt promises to back the lloans if the banks will just give these poor folks a leg up...

4: banks still not lending to shitty risks cuz it costs to foreclose, and govt promises are not worth the risk

5: das still racist!!!

6: govt institutes new rules REQUIRING banks to give shitty loans to shitty risks or face regulatory pushback, fees, fines, and discrimination lawsuits, while sweetening the deal for the loan security guarantee from the govt

7: STILL not convincing moishe sheckelberg to give risky loans

8: ok, so you can also bundle those shit loans into a package and sell off pieces of them like bonds, with "guaranteed profits" even if the individual loans in the bundle go tits up...

9: ok, gimmee dem sheckles goyim!

10: ALL of the shit loans go tits up, all at once.

11: chaos, pandemonium, economic collapse

12: democrats try to blame banks and republicans for what they did

13: idiot uneducated dominican beach nigger fails to understand what went down in washington, but he's a nigger AND a beaner so he assumes democrats would never lie to him.

14: your post is born.

>>136938980
protected by the gov't

the same gov't that doesn't even let the fed's controller's names out

you fucking faggot

>>136957570
So all the shit quality's of women and cats rolled into one?
No thank you.

>>136956652
“allowed to join“. Of course you can join. You cant do that in the current system in many cases. You need to register your business, have a license all that shit. Do you think any startup could meet the regulations on many products? Nope.

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>>136918876
>>136919004

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I sympathize with ancapism but lets be honest, it will never happen.
Even natsocs have a x10000 better chance of happening.

>>136959550
Look mate people that are stupidly greedy and dont wheigh the risks of credit dont stay in the free market very long. There are entire industries that specialise in finding out risks. Its called insurance. Or you do it yourself as a bank for example. Now goverment enters the game and says “fuck risks give free shit to the people“. And the rest is history.

>>136961621
All of those things can be provided by the free market. Yes even law.

>>136918876

Capitalism is so much better than anything else that people with no money and no english can come to america and succeed, even become wealthy because it is so fucking easy.

If you haven't, it's because you're a failure. It's not the system, it's you.

t. Canadian executive that grew up dirt poor

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>>136918876
No we don't. /pol is a natsoc board, and National socialism is economically centrist.

2/10 for making me and 250 other retards reply tho.

>>136918876
Don't the liberals own the banking system?

With the whole housing crisis and all.

>thread created 11 hours ago
Please let it die

>>136961621
Fund it yourself if you want it so bad.

>>136922532
Way to go Anon. Beautifully explained.

>>136918876
> three mile island nuke reactors had the shit regulated out of them
> love canal chemical disposal is still heavily and was heavily regulated
> housing bubble, the government made it illegal to discriminate based on credit score making it illegal not to give out loans to people you know cant pay it back
> asian sweatshops, in pretty sure china is communist and that is where 90% of those shops are
> A.I.G. wouldnt exist if it were not for huge government bail outs anything they do is the governments fault
> Ford Pinto item was a meme, there was no real risk of it exploding on you it was flashy headlines

>>136918876
Not any of these things are due to the lack of regulation.

>>136961225
Kill yourself you goddamn rat kike.

>>136919988

Must be coincidence that it worked pretty fucking well for around 190 years

>>136918876
I wonder (((who))) could be behind this? (((Who)))) could be promoting central planning?

>>136963090
You nailed it, Anon.

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>>136918876

Cronyism is not capitalism (voluntary, free trade).

The Housing Bubble was caused by big government policies:

The Housing Bubble in 4 Easy Steps

1. The Federal Reserve cut interest rates to as low as 1% so that after inflation we had negative interest rates.


2. As a result, mortgage rates fell to an all time low.


3. Low rates caused borrowing and lending to explode, particularly in real estate. For example, commercial banks more than doubled the amount of real-estate loans they made.


4. All these low interest loans had to be extended to people with worse credit ratings and this increased the demand for homes and other real-estate assets. It should not be surprising that home prices skyrocketed. Click on the link below to the Real Estate Roller Coaster:

Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, mortgage-backed securities, and credit derivatives were simply the conduit that made all these bad loans and investments seem less risky than they really were. In this manner the Federal Reserve can fool the market, at least temporarily. In the end the market always reasserts itself.

https://mises.org/library/housing-bubble-4-easy-steps

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A lot of the people who work in "Asian sweatshops" would otherwise starve or live on the streets without a job. It's important that they do so voluntarily.

>>136918876
>asian sweatshops
they mean the ones in commie countries?

>>136918876
>Asian sweatshops
What is it about sweatshops that are so attractive to Asian workers? Is it because they're shitty country can't pay a fair wage? Fuck this meme is so infuriating.

>>136918876
New cross thread

Sweden has crossed the line, it's beyond saving

>>136973440

>>136973440

>>136918876
free market is the regulator you fucking dumbass