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Only 0.1% of US minimum wage workers can afford a 1-bedroom apartment,

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Defend this fucking bullshit, /pol/
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What percent of the workforce works for only minimum wage?

Look it up and be redpilled, commie.
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>>136915059
>minimum wage jobs are employed mostly be teenagers working part time while going to school
>can't afford their own place
Oy vey! We must raise minimum wage to $25/h to make up for this!
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>minimum wage workers can't afford more than the bare minimum accommodations

wtf #imwithher now
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>>136915059
maybe because most of them are kids who just work so they can buy the new video game you dumb nigger
>>136915296
1%
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>>136916112
Is it really 1%?
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>>136915059
Min wage is for students living with their parents.

If you are over 20 still working min wage, you fucked up somewhere.

get a room share and go apply for a real job.
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>>136915059
I am sure these results were skewed due to the ungodly number of complete and total dumbasses who insist on living in cities like New York and expect to support themselves by stocking shelves at a Whole Foods.
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>>136915059
why would you work at a minimum wage job for that long anyway
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If, by the time you are of age where you can legally sign a lease agreement, you are still making the minimum wage you just might be a total loser.
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>>136915059
Work a teenagers job, get a teenagers pay scale.
Pretty simple.
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>>136916160
http://freebeacon.com/issues/report-only-1-6-of-american-workers-make-the-minimum-wage/
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>>136916160
What they don't tell you is a lot of those workers are teenagers and elderly just looking for something to do.
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>>136916377
http://archive.is/JNlJy
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ITT: Neets pretend they're better than people who contribute to society
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>>136915059
No shit, that's why roommates are a thing.
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>>136916194
I wish more people realized that. Minimum wage should only raise to keep up with inflation, the government should not be held accountable for your failures in life.
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>Researchers define "afford" by people's ability to pay 30 percent of their income or less on the cost of housing
Why doesn't the 99.9% just set aside more than 30% of their income on housing?
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>>136915059
Minimum wage is indefensible though.
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>>136916377
>http://freebeacon.com/issues/report-only-1-6-of-american-workers-make-the-minimum-wage/

This is about the federal one, dont most states have a higher one?
So the number is severely scewed
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>>136916969
My state follows federal and those making minimum wage can afford to split a one bedroom apartment with two others while living on beans, rice, and instant ramen. If anything is left over it goes towards gasoline to travel to work.
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>import tons of spics to lower ALL salary brackets
>increased population increases property prices
>it's now YOUR fault that you don't earn enough money to live, goyim
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>>136916890
I agree. Get rid of it.
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>>136915059
Why would you want to incentivise low skilled workers? Rewarding poor life choices will only increase this behavior. We should make life as difficult as possible for these people.
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>>136916875
>(7.25*40*4)*.3=348
>three hundred and forty eight dollars
yeah no shit, thats a pretty unrealistic amount for a rent or mortgage for anywhere but the most rural/under populated areas. bump it to 50% and 580 a month is far far more reasonable for bigger population centers. hell, i rented a 2 bed 1 bath 1000 sqft apartment in hell paso for 600 a few years back.
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>>136916969
>dont most states have a higher one?
Its like 58%, and several only have a few cents more
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>>136915059
then don't work minimum wage and make yourself valuable
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>>136918787
Your math is off
It should be
(7.25*40)*(52/12)
So 1257*.3
377
People on min wage don't usually get two weeks vacation, and a month is usually 4.3 weeks
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>>136916194
>students living with their parents
>not over 20
Most Americans are in school until they're at least 22.
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>raise minimum wage
>rents raise at the same rate
>what is supply and demand
Learn basic economics. And I mean lemonade stand basic.
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>>136915059
Room with people. Like almost everyone else has throughout all of time.
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>>136919600
>40 hour work week
Did you just step out of a time machine from 1980?
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keep voting for tax cuts for the rich....
maybe one day their money will trickle down to you...
that is what you believe, right?
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>>136915059
Dirty dumb, low class scum. Fuck the prols.
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>>136919878
No - I believe it's simply immoral to violently take people's property from them.
Like...
Woah...
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>>136919716
Not true
Only about 65% of high school graduates go on to college, and 20% drop out during high school, and somewhere between 20 and 40 percent of college students drop out by the time they're 20.
Put them all together and there's no way more than half of 20 year olds are in college
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>>136918787
>i rented a 2 bed 1 bath 1000 sqft apartment in hell paso for 600 a few years back.
I'm jelous as fuck all the fucking sandniggers bought up the apartments around here in sutter county, CA and they don't rent to whites except at stupid high prices so now no white people can find a place to fucking live. They are trying to drive us out of the town. Sikhs are NOT bros, they are as bad as kikes with less power.
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>>136919831
>It's not immoral to stand by with zero compassion (and maybe even smug contentment?) while your countrymen starve to death and die of exposure while homeless?
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>only 0.1% of people below 80 IQ are on an equivalent level to those above 120 IQ
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>>136915059
>studies show that only .00001% of fry cooks own ferraris
Christ, I guess the only solution is communism then.
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>>136920013
might want to change your flag then.
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>it's another butthurt wageslave peasant thread

keep the tears coming /leftypol/
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>>136915059
There are a multitude of government interventions in the market that contribute to this situation. The probable primary cause is our monetary system.
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>>136919875
?
Literally everyone i know has a 40 hour work week
90% of my jobs, including my first two were 40 hour work weeks
I mean, if your argument is 40 hours are unlikely to pay merely min wage, you're probably right, but otherwise...
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>>136915059
there's nothing to defend. if you work at mcdonalds 40hrs a week at entry level, you get a roommate and live in a 2br 1ba apt on the wrong side of town with no phone, no internet, no car payment, no health insurance, etc and get creative with ramen. when it comes to the last couple of days before payday, maybe you have to decide between your ramen and your after work cheap beer. this is how it was when min wage was 3.35 per hour and i suspect it's not much different now. ok if you're 18 or 20 years old. i had a ball. if you find yourself trying to live this lifestyle at 40 with maybe a couple of kids thrown in and no spouse, YOU FUCKED UP. it ain't anybody else's fault but your own.
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>>136920130
I'm all for charity - what are you going on about?
Also, who is starving? There are food pantries canvassing the entire country.

>>136920195
No - anarchist is consistent with everything I believe.
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>>136915059
If you can't afford to live, you shouldn't live.

Survival of the fittest.
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It's simple: create more jobs that pay higher than minimum wage. More people earning minimum wage = more welfare recipients = more liberal voters.
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Minimum wage in San Diego is $11.50, is that bad?
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>>136915059

Welfare state, insane govt spending and programs, high taxes and inflation. Welcome to big government and the price everyone has to pay.
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>>136915059

Minimum wage jobs are usually for highschool aged kids. If you are in your twenties working for that then you fucked up in life. There are plenty of warehouses that hire everyday starting off at 12-14 dollars an hour right out of highschool with no experience like Amazon. Thats nearly double minimum.
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>>136920266
>ok if you're 18 or 20 years old

What is you are 19 years old?
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>>136920293
wait a second. I thought red/black was ancom? Did I just get Bernstein Bear'd?
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>>136920414
Depends. Are they cutting work hours like they're doing in Seattle? CA income taxes are horrendous too. I've earned minimum wage before and my paychecks got taxed to hell and back.
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>>136920455
It's literally just "anarchist". It's a vanilla anarchist flag.
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Part of the problem lies in the person, but also our stupid fucking School System. I don't care if you say "ah but high school and college are super impo-" they waste time, and 90% of that shit you aren't going to remember. Why? Because it's shit that you need for a Job you do not give a SINGLE fucking shit about. Education should work like this; Elementary > Middle > Career Specific Facility. Why the fuck do I need to know Algebra for fucking Neuro Surgery?
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>>136915059
>Work minimum wage
>Only can afford studio and food
>No mojitos with friends in downtown 1-bedroom
>WTF
>Seize means of production
>Immediately starve
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>>136920501
I'm in San Diego making minimum wage and 40 hours a week.

My paycheck comes at $395 per week.
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too many niggers folks
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>>136920518
I could have sworn the anarchist symbol was a red A with a circle around it on a white flag. But yeh no ancom flag here. Huh.
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>>136920692
It's ridiculous.
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>>136915059
what?
either everyone living on a set amount of money can afford something or nobody can.
where did that 1% come from?
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>>136920692
That's about what I was making at my college job in Ohio. $410/wk

Damn, California, you scary.
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>>136920692
>>136920786

Get a better job.
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>>136920796
>Cost of living is the same everywhere in the US

You'd know that if you moved out of your mom's.
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>>136920453
>when min wage was 3.35 per hr
yeah dude, i'm 19
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>>136920781
It's vanilla on this site. It's why when you mouse over it it only says 'anarchist'.
I don't believe in rights or NAP so I can't use ancap.
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>>136916565
>Minimum wage should only raise to keep up with inflation,
No. If an outright repeal is off the table, then it should be left alone so it will gradually drop in terms of real wage. Minimum wage is cancer, and keeping it alive with adjustments based on inflation is almost as cancerous as increasing it above inflation.
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>>136920885
That's why I'm in college, nigger.
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>>136920953
>It's another Boomer tells us about how he could actually survive on minimum wage episode
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I figure if what I said was retarded, you people would have called me out on it. It ain't bait.
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>>136921035

Then shut the fuck and stop complaining.
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>>136915905
>Minimum wage is supposed to be minimum amount a person can live on and have their own really small basic place and enough food to survive
>Can't do that on one minimum wage job
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>>136921108
gen x, friend
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>>136915059
Get women out of the workforce and the problem will fix itself.
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>>136921140
But it's harder to make ends meet when you're taxed to hell and back to fund gibsmedats.
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>>136915059
>STOP EATING AVOCADOS! NOW PAY UP FOR MY HEALTHCARE!
t. boomer
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>>136916210
>Why would you slave behind a desk for Mr. Goldstein 9 - 5 24/7/365 anyway
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>>136916515

Our ideas are vast superior than the brain dead librals in their corrupt expensive Dem. run cities who continue to vote and support their tainted ideology even though they have been suffering it in their cities but are the most ignorant people in the world.
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>>136921161
ever heard of roommate(s)? who told you you are entitled to your own place?
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>>136915059


Get a real job, you commie LARPing faggot.
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>>136921126
most people will agree that the school system is shit, I don't know what you were expecting
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Being "working class" doesn't mean that you have to flip burgers for a living, stop being pathetic.
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>>136920574
>Algebra for fucking Neuro Surgery?
your point was good but math is very important for almost all high-tier jobs. Geometry and the more advanced forms of it like trig are more important than algebra though. I fucking hate algebra, I think its a pointless and stupid form of making simple math more complex than it needs to be, but I understand why it's taught, I just wish you dot a choice between taking geometry or algebra first.
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>>136920953
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>>136921161
>Minimum wage is supposed to be minimum amount a person can live on

Says who? That is an opinion based on feelings.

>Can't do that on one minimum wage job

The fuck you can't. Maybe you can't also afford a car payment, a cell phone, cable, internet, eating out, etc. But that's the point. If you want more shit, get a better job or get a second job.
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>>136915059
kuyashi
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>>136921307
I was expecting to be argued against by Contrarians. But, I was wrong.
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>>136921296
This is true everywhere.
Doesn't matter if you live in bumfuck nowhere, one minimum wage job is not enough for one room apartment and enough food to not starve.
>B-But muh entitlement
Are you seriously trying to argue that wanting shelter is being entitled? Jesus christ you're retarded.
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>>136915059
>Not looking in a non-liberal location
>Not spending an extra 200 bucks for the extra room and getting a roommate
>Not knowing any of this
>Minimum wage job and going out alone
Fucking idiot.
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>>136921296
The existence of more empty homes than homeless people entitles everyone to a place to live. Once upon a time, and still in some wholesome christian communities such as the Amish, a person becomes an adult and needs a place to live and the community comes together and helps the dude build a place to live, along with a barn, so he can raise a family and keep the community going. Community wants the benefit of new kids to replace the aging members, then it helps provide a home to the new productive members of its community.

If I'm not entitled to a place to live, then the community isn't entitled to my offspring, and I'll just go childless all the aging people can go without anyone younglings to care for them in their old age. All of you can just die, because you aren't entitled to my reproductive capacity and the labor of my children, or my own labor, or anything from me except my spite. You can have all of my spite.
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Holy shit, a degenerate such as myself is part of the one percent!

36 hr a week line cook in a studio-esque cabin. yayyyy

please kill me.
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>>136920692
I wonder why, since illegal Juan and his 15 kids will do it for almost nothing. If only there was a solution for this.
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Don't forget the biggest issue: nobody will give a minimum wage job full time hours. I could do ok with $1600 a month, even here in commiefornia, but no one will give you 40 hours.
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We're overregulated and oversubsidized. Welfare is part of the problem. The building codes are part of the problem. The minimum wage itself is part of the problem.
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>>136921518
>Says who?
https://www.dol.gov/whd/minimumwage.htm
>The fuck you can't
Show me one place where a person working minimum wage can afford one apartment with enough food to survive.
>Maybe you can't also afford a car payment, a cell phone, cable, internet, eating out, etc. But that's the point. If you want more shit, get a better job or get a second job
Nowhere did I state that you retard boomer.
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>fuck you, got mine
t. /pol/
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>>136921459
That would be nice. But apparently, no one wants to do anything about our whole shitty system.
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>>136921564
you realize what you posted WAS the contrarian opinion, right?

most people agree that the school system is shit, but most also want more government bullshit to "fix" it rather than less. It's insane. I'm convinced the school system is broken on purpose, and they only introduce even more broken policies so people give politicians attention. They need broken people, because those make good slaves and good voters
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>>136921575
no. i'm arguing that there is no entitlement to your own domicile. when you make shit money, you find a couple of other people in the same circumstance and share a place. it ain't rocket science
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>>136921682
Tried to mention that earlier in the thread but apparently everyone on /pol/ hasn't had to find a new job since before 9/11.
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>>136921735
>I'm convinced the school system is broken on purpose
Montessori
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>>136921618
>he says, as his anarchist buddies shoot heroin all day and complain about how unfair it is that they don't have a house
Start a business reclaiming unused houses for homeless people. See where it gets you. A flop house full of piss. You leftypol people are so fucking stupid. See you here in 5 years when your balls drop and you have responsibilities.
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>>136921735
I didn't realize it was that fucked. Jesus.
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>>136915059
No because I don't even believe in a minimum wage.
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>>136921296
The Declaration of Independence
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>>136915059

how is this even possible, I don't see that many homeless zombies wandering around.
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>>136921747
>It's your fault you grew up in poverty and shit circumstances
>Like just get a job bruh
You're not arguing anything, your flouting your own shitty opinion as fact and "advice".
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>>136915059

Property speculators shit all over the poor. They all deserve the Gulag. Disgusting pigs.
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>>136921161
>$1600/mo minimum wage
>$600 for a studio apartment
>$150 for food
>$100 for entertainment/misc expenses
>$50/mo internetwebs
>$700 left over
>m-muh living wage
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My girlfriend and I both work full time at walmart and our combined income is probably around 40,000 a year.

We have two dogs, a cat, a house, two cars, internet, two gaming computers, our own washer and dryer
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>>136921618
who grants you that entitlement? where does it originate? it is not law where i live. i'm not completely ignorant of such things as adverse possession, but there are reasonable counters to such things. so no.
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>>136921764
This is because of Obamacare you politically illiterate dummy. You people need to lurk. You think because you know a couple of memes that you know what you're talking about. Faggot.
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>>136921858
make up as many excuses as you want, it actually still is your fault you're a loser from making consistent bad decisions from too retarded to make more than mimumum
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>>136921849
Maybe you aren't wandering around in the right places, also minimum wage workers make up less than 1% of the job force.
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>>136921161
By the time you get out of your parents, you should have a job that pays above minimum wage, but sadly thanks to outsourcing and kikes, lots of people end up doing minimum wage out of highschool now. Raising the wage isn't going to do shit and would most likely inflate everything else.
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>>136915059
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>>136921915
>Implying you will ever in your life get a minimum wage job that gives you 40 hours work week
And where do you have a $600 studio, 3 hours commute from your Mcjob?
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>>136921858
>it's society's responsibility to ensure a pleasant and stress free existence for me
and you're just whimpering like an infant missing the teat
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>>136922093
>>136921915
I forgot to add
>$1600
>No taxes taken out
Want to know how I know that you live with your parents still?
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>>136915059
The actual minimum wage is really zero. The mandated minimum wage is actually the first rung in the ladder. Increasing the this wage increases the number of people whose current value is less than this wage. Thus more are at zero wage. Also, unlike a voluntary zero wage, one is forbidden from gaining job experience at this wage. Thus will always be zero wage and increasingly dependent on handouts.
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>>136921709
>https://www.dol.gov/whd/minimumwage.htm

Where does it say that? Quote it.

>Show me one place where a person working minimum wage can afford one apartment with enough food to survive.

7.25*40*4 = $1160. Take out taxes.

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/search/apa?max_price=600&availabilityMode=0

Me and my girlfriend have a monthly grocery budget of $300, so $150 per person. We buy tons of "luxury" food items. If you only bought essentials, one person can easily survive on $100/month for food. Do the math, you fucking lazy retard.
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I make 13k a year. I have my own apartment with no roomies, I have TV, internet, a cell and house line, I eat healthy and have everything I need, plus I only work 25 hours a week. Plenty of free time to do as I please. I don't take handouts for the government, either.

You millennial niggers are just spoiled shitheads who scream travesty because you can't afford shit, but the reason for this is because you sip on starbucks daily and sign up for $100+ monthly phone plans.
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Mfw I am out of work, living with parents and no money to my name.

Yet I still refuse to accept minimum wage jobs or apply for welfare out of pride.
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>>136922374
now here's a nazi i can have some respect for
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>>136922093

THEN GET A SECOND JOB YOU FUCKING FAGGOT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS HAS TO BE A TROLL

>>136922203

So call it $1,000. Paying $600 for rent still leaves you with $400 to buy food and take care of other necessities.
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>>136922374
living the dream
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>>136915059
I don't even make minimum wage and I'm a cashier at a Lowe's in socal. 12 dollars starting with no prior experience or any other employment. How shit do you have to be to even make minimum wage
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>>136922374
I guarantee you ain't got medical insurance though.
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>>136922093
OBAMACARE mandated that all full time employees had to provide insurance for their employees. Most businesses figured out it was cheaper to hire more part time and less full time. Now go kiss your single mom good night and get back to job hunting at the mall, Kyan.
Stupid cunt, don't make threads when you don't understand anything.
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>>136922374
And where might you live?
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>>136922726
So instead of blaming greedy employers who would rather not help anyone but themselves in order to save a few dollars, you blame Obama.

Nice.
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>>136922654
I do, I pay $250 for it.

>>136922730
Flag.
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>>136922730

Look at this cuck ignoring all the posts that have easily BTFO'd his retarded "argument". Where do YOU live, Shlomo, that you can't find a fucking studio for less than $1000/month?
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>>136922860
Then there ain't no way you making anywhere near minimum wage. Why the fuck you even in this thread, nigger?
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>>136922845
>I should lose my business to pay for private health insurance that I can't afford because the government will fine me out of business.
You are either 15 or stupid. I'm guessing both.
Go back to rebbit, you are not even slightly smart enough to be here.
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>>136921140
You're a complacent and ignorant piece of shit. People like you are just role fillers. You probably haven't done an originally significant thing in your entire life
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>>136923043
I make $11/hr, my point is that cunts who cry about minimum wage are economically retarded and usually either have no real understanding about the words their parroting from liberal teachers, or are living off Daddy's money anyway.
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>>136923424
inb4 a grammar fag, *they're

It's almost 4am.
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>>136923464
Hey fellow Easterner. My advice is to ignore grammar shit, idiots use it because they have no argument. Like the NEETS in this thread.
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>people complaining about minimum wage jobs not making enough
Then get a better job or get a job where tipping is the norm. I make minimum wage on paper and almost twice that in tips every hour.
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>>136917506
>Landlords allow two people in a one bedroom apartment

kek
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>>136915059
I make minimum wage in new cuck city
paying for a studio apartment would leave me with $200 per month for everything else, not counting bills, transportation and other expenses
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>>136924455
>lives in a shithole with a shitty job
>IT'S THE GUVAMENT'S FAULT I'M POOR
You must be a nigger
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>>136924503
I blame the jews who tripled rent rates in the last 10 years.
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>>136924455
Then fucking move, if an area's living expense is too high for you, find an area where it's lower.
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>>136924638
The jews aren't making you live in the shithole you currently reside in. It's you being a fucking moron.
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>>136924384
Holy shit this is stupid.
kek
rebbit spacing for someone so dumb. What about a married couple, your fucking idiot?
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>>136924710
Moving is really hard to do when you're shit poor.
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>>136921247
>slave
>behind a desk
stop being a pussy. Desk jobs are to jobs as yoga is to exercise.
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>>136924994
>guys I'm poor
>is on the internet complaining in the early morning
No you're fucking not.
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>>136924994
No it's not. You have no money therefore you should have no things. You have a shit job. Just leave. You can easily replace nothing.
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>>136922272
I'm not going to spoon feed you.
>7.25*40*4 = $1160. Take out taxes
"$275 4br - (Walking Distance UB South Campus)"
There's a reason why it's so cheap.
But the problem is that in the majority of the country, rent is far more expensive then that, and the majority of employers do not like hiring people for minimum wage for more then 20 - 30 hours.
So congratulations, you found the exemption and are now trying to use it as the rule.
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>>136925186
>retard logic
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>>136925117
Enjoy all your extra money. Too bad you don't have the extra time to go along with that, with less job freedom.
>What's that goy? You quit? You need to fill out the proper documntation first!
>What's that goy? You want some time off? But you already used it all up. Now get back to work!
>What's that goy? You're tired of sitting behind a desk all day year in and out? Too bad, you get up and do anything else you're not told to and no more shekels for you!
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>>136925316
It's not your logic, it's fact. It's not the jew's fault that you work for them. It's your. I'd tell you to take some responsibility for yourself, but you're clearly a nigger. So instead, just kill yourself.
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>>136925422
just read that you're a tipfag
no wonder your logic is fucking retarded
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>>136925686
My job pays for my house and bills. Yours doesn't. What's wrong with my logic?
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>>136915059
>Researchers define "afford" by people's ability to pay 30 percent of their income or less on the cost of housing, which may include their mortgage, insurance and taxes. Those who are severely cost-burdened must use 50 percent or more of their income just to cover housing.

pfft I make good money and I put more than 50% on my fucking rent.
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>>136925828
Why not ask your wife's refugee boyfriend to pitch in with part of the rent?
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