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>Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia, is actually investigating the Clinton and Obama tentacles.
>To drain the swamp, Trump has to permanently separate the Uniparty (R & D’s) from their profiteering schemes, power structures and its global apparatus.
>To do so, requires unwinding the web of financial, corruption, terrorism, and white collar crimes.
>There are wide-scale scheme(s) spanning both political parties, media complex, deep-state, globalists, Democrats, NeoCons, K-street bagmen, career bureaucrats, elected officials, etc., hoping to stop the Trump agenda.
>The bread and butter of the UniParty; the wide-scale influence peddling, voter-fraud, trade deals, cheap-labor and climate schemes, and the DC power apparatus are about to get exposed & dismembered.
>After years of orchestrated deceit, Trump is seeking to systematically remove the entrenched hands that feed the politicians by removing the profiteers, corporate lobbyist, and the bagmen that feed them.
>Trump is going after their pot of gold.

cont...
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>>136884311 (checked)

have a (you)
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>Standards of evidence and proof of guilt of federal crimes require a precise chain of events and actions for which there is reliable evidence that will stand up in federal court, i.e., evidence that will persuade a jury or federal judge and that can withstand cross-examination and the inquiries of experts hired by the defense.
>Ironclad criminal indictments simply take time.
>It is noteworthy, that the Special Counsel Mueller legal veterans and workhorses assembled at face value embody specializations in virtually every aspect of law that might be used against a criminal organization (RICO), though with notably few mentions of anyone specialized in election law or in prosecuting or investigating interactions with foreign governments, with an exception or two.
>In this plot’s final script, we will be witnessing, at a time and place of choosing by Trump, Sessions and Wray, the biggest shit-show on the planet.
>Trump is going to drain the imperial swamp of Washington and Mueller, Sessions and Rosenstein will help him do it.

Be patient, brothers. The Day of the Rope is coming.

https://klsouth.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/mueller-and-the-pursuit-of-justice/
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We can only hope this comes true.
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> influence peddling, voter-fraud, trade deals, cheap-labor and climate schemes
He's really been going balls-out on this hasn't he?
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>>136884311
>>136885588
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Could all the Dem donors he stacked his team with be cover for this? Perhaps it appears even more credible this way? Doubtful, but hey.
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>>136885997
The Dem donors are on the team because they were involved in the crimes/corruption. WH Anon said they've been pardoned in exchange for helping to prosecute those at the top.
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>>136884787
>Anthony Weiner’s laptop with file “Life Insurance”

LMAO Weiner better stay out of the gym, all those heavy weights and equipment can be very dangerous
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>>136884311
We can throw the Awans into the mix for good measure.
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>>136886972
Also from the article:
>Meanwhile, between Mueller and DOJ, there are likely multiple, separate and parallel investigations going on. Rosenstein’s letter authorizes inquiry into matters “arising from” the investigation and any efforts to obstruct justice. The specific arrest charge (loan misrepresentation) to stop Imran Awan from fleeing the country was so swift, it suggests a grand jury was already empaneled. Christopher Wray, now FBI Director, has to figure out which ‘agency superiors’ obstructed investigation(s) by honorable rank and file agents.
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>>136887146
EXCELLENT piece, thank you. (Replied before having read it, which was dumb of me.)
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>>136884311
>>Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia, is actually investigating the Clinton and Obama tentacles.
I don't think this was a plan but this witch hunt may inadvertently make this happen. Muller has been deep state for a while and most of the people that he hired, were recently fire by Trump.
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>>136886142

Related to the Clinton plea bargin news you think?
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>>136887531
Did you read the article? Have you looked at who he hired? Just connect the dots. The team wouldn't be assembled the way it is if they were investigating Trump. Mueller, against his will, was part of the corrupt Clinton/Obama machine and definitely had to do some shady things. He'd happily trade a pardon in return for burning the whole thing down.

>>136887947
Very likely, which means the announcement may come soon. I thought it would've taken longer. I was surprised to hear about that yesterday.
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>>136884311
I dunno, I've been watching a lot of George Webb and Mueller looks as dirty as the rest of them
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>>136888094
He *was* dirty. Not anymore.

See:
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>>136884311
why is the little guy more important than the big guy?
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>>136888876
He isn't, but he has a right to not be fucked by the big guy.
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>>136888077
Fact is, Mueller is stacking his team with all these democrats and lawyers that new the DNC/Obama/Clinton/Lynch because they know where the skeletons are. ITS SO OBVIOUS but people knee jerk by seeing so many liberals that they think Trump is doomed when its the other way around.
These smaller fish are helping bring down this crime syndicate because they either were pardoned/protected/offered a way out of the blackmail and corruption.
Everyone knows what happens when you go against the Bush/Clinton crime family. You get 2 bullet suicide to the back of the skull.
NOT ANYMORE.
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>>136884311
It still makes me smile how Ben Garrison is unironically /ourguy/ now.

And I mean, sure, that cartoon is not the original but still: the libertarian edits are always 100% on our side too.

>>136888876
>why is the little guy more important than the big guy?
for you
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if Hillary had gotten her way there wouldnt be a single leak in all these months.
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>>136889224
The meltdown/chimpout when this investigation ends might honestly be better than election night
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>>136885997
>>136886142
They are important for multiple reasons.
They are actually the experts, which is why they have been used by dems in past.
Their prior "loyalty" to dems means they are harder to dismiss as biased.
Their prior loyalty as evidenced by donations is likely, in part, survival. They thought dems would be in power...
By hiring them, they are now prohibited from being witnesses for defense.
They also cannot be hired by clintons et al which locks a significant portion of legal expertise away.

All in all...could be a win. Or we could all be fucked. In which case, it never mattered.
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>>136888077
>I thought it would've taken longer
You and me both. In my case though, I think it's because I have happening fatigue. We've seen the state of the corruption for months now; Awans, Seth Rich, unmasking, Fusion GPS & their set up of Trump Jr. And there has been such a slow drip drip drip of confirmations of our general thesis that it feels like we'll get through the whole 8 years before Trump is ready to finally bring the hammer down on the cabal.
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>>136884311
>>Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia, is actually investigating the Clinton and Obama tentacles.

This is one of the dumber posts.

We can see who has been raided by the FBI, who is lawyering up, etc.
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>>136884311
>Count me as one who thinks Special Council Mueller, under the guise of investigating Russia, is actually investigating the Clinton and Obama tentacles.


In order to even investigate, Mueller had to be given an official 'decree'. It says right on what he is investigating. Go do some reading.
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>>136884311

>After NAFTA is dismantled, Trump will rinse and repeat with the ‘big Pharma’ influence peddlers. Trump is going after their pot of gold.

He can probably round them up when he goes after the organ rat-line
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>>136889935
In all fairness, the Dems on Mueller's team already know the crimes committed. It's not like they have to find wrongdoing. They just have to document and compartmentalize all the evidence, which they've been doing since March.
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>>136889978
>>136890086
Manafort is probably guilty of some kind of financial crimes unrelated to the election and he's the only person from Trump's campaign staff that's even remotely dirty.
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maybe Trump is playing up the NK thing and orchestrating some of the Russian leaks to buy the team a bit more time to really get the facts and an open and shut case.

The Dems thing they're getting him with the Russia stuff but he's really using their own screams and shouts to cover for the case to wrap up.
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>>136885665
SO SLEEPY
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>>136890121
Taking down big Pharma will be huge. Medical earmarks can finally be repealed and drug prices will fall dramatically. The Republican healthcare bill, that takes away coverage for millions of people, doesn't sound so bad if they don't need it. Most people on Medicare only need it to afford their drugs. If drugs are affordable, they don't need government healthcare. People are still taken care of while the government saves billions of dollars. Policies like this are what creates economic prosperity.
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>le mueller is actually investigating Hillary meme

Trump has proven himself to not be capable of actual 4D chess and can't keep his mouth shut about anything. If there was something, we would already have heard it from Trump. Furthermore Trump wouldn't be attempting to throw his people under the bus and try to undermine Mueller's reputation if this were the case. There is a section of congressman like Nunes and Gowdy who pander to their constituents by "investigating" Hillary while producing nothing. Did you know that they spent 60 million dollars looking into Benghazi? Did you know they didn't even spend 1/10th of that on the 9/11 commission. Really makes you think doesn't it? Or wait, it doesn't because you are effectively jew and bluepilled over your bread and circus act of Rep vs Dem.

DEBUNKED
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>>136890698
>If drugs are affordable, they don't need government healthcare.

exactly this, the entire obamacare bill was a giant fuck you to the taxpayer, spending whatever was asked and never demanding a price consideration for drugs, even though they were spending billions on them they were paying 10x the counter price at pharmacies in Europe, a total fucking crime engineered to rip off the taxpayer
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>>136890751
>quality shilling
>actually kind of refreshing
You aren't taking Trump's strategy into account. He purposely creates chaos in order to screen his true intentions and set traps to be sprung later. Remember when he attacked Sessions and Mueller last week? How many senators and media figures are on camera gushing about how their character is unquestionable now? Don't take Trump's actions or words at face value. Don't follow the shiny object. Look at the bigger picture.
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>>136891327
Correct. The medical earmarks are key, though. Big Pharma lobbies politicians to make them more money. Those politicians then pass legislation saying that certain drugs can only be made in a certain state. Without competition, without someone making the same product and selling it at a lower price, drug companies are allowed to sell their product at whatever price they want.
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>>136890215
Right. And of course, it makes more sense to have the idiots in the media cheering Mueller on if he really is not a deep state shill so when the switcheroo&indictment happens they'll still have his jizz all over their mouths.

However we still don't have conclusive proof that he's not a deep state shill... so I'm still wary about giving public backing to him.

I'm tired of being proven right in arguments with my normie friends all the time but then seeing them switch gear and pick up a new stupid argument. I just want to get on with the Lock Her Up happening so I can go back to talking about sports and work and shit.
>and use our by now extremely powerful meme magic against the Chinese communists
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>>136891631
>drug companies are allowed to sell their product at whatever price they want.

right, so when you ask hey when will the generic of this be ready the pharmacist looks at you all stupid and says never

fucking scumbags
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>>136891666
>However we still don't have conclusive proof that he's not a deep state shill... so I'm still wary about giving public backing to him.
Understandable, because it's the best 4D chess play to date, but ask yourself, why do you think he may be a deep state shill? If he were, what is he actually going to find? Manafort financial crimes? It's not tied to Russia so nobody cares. That Trump didn't pay taxes for years after claiming losses on his casinos? Yeah it looks bad but that has nothing to do with Russia. Even he were a deep state shill, he won't be able to produce any evidence that can hurt Trump enough to get him removed from office because no such evidence exists. Trump as a person may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he's not dirty.
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>>136891666
>wary about giving public backing to him.

the only one who will get public backing at this point will speak the truth and arrest the guilty
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>>136891335
>le 43D underwater chess xD
>ur a shill cuz u dont believe in da god emprahs 4D strategy
and now we all know you need to go back to plebbit newfag.
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>>136892352
>why do you think he may be a deep state shill?
because you don't get into his position without having a heavy duty blackmail file yourself, so all these people have to play along, the only thing that can change the script is public outcry
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>>136892501
If you've read the article and conducted your own research, and still feel this way, then there's nothing else I can do for you. Just wait and watch, anon. Also, 4D chess isn't a meme. Maybe it's a dumb name for it, but Trump has a strategy. Clearly you don't understand it.

>>136892536
He did have a heavy duty blackmail file against him. Trump pardoned him and everyone else on the team who could've been blackmailed.
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>>136892352
>If he were, what is he actually going to find?
The "you can indict a ham sandwich" line springs to mind. Bill ended up being impeached based upon something that had nothing to do with the original investigation.

Also, the fact that the media are so pro-Mueller. This means that their masters believe that he is out to get Trump by any means necessary. Trump has to have tricked ALL of them.

Certainly would be the biggest 4D chess play to date.

>>136892414
Right. And Mueller will get it if he suddenly announces he's going after the Dems. But I'm not a retarded SJW so I'm not prepared to put my full faith in to a narrative before I've seen some kind of evidence, like all those idiots did with >MUH RUSSIA. I know the Mueller /ourguy/ narrative is not absurd, but we don't have proof yet. I hope it's right though.
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>>136893416
Bill was impeached by getting caught in a perjury trap (in all fairness, he dug his own grave). Perjury traps are usually how witch hunts become successful. Trump is smart enough to avoid this. That's a big reason why he's always so vague when he speaks. The media's support of Mueller was designed and Trump did trick all of them. The media are predictable. People who are predictable are easy to manipulate. They just follow shiny objects and act like they have horse blinders on. They're so blinded by their hate for him that they can led down any rabbit hole that Trump creates.
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>>136892948
Is his strategy failing at almost every turn? If it is, he's doing a great job.

Trump got himself into this Mueller mess out of sheer incompetence.
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>>136893876
Yeah, but I mean the perjury trap is just one of the ways he could end up Jewed.

And I agree that Trump has played the media like a fiddle for the past 2 years. And the more he gets away with, the more enraged they get.

But still, it's just such a big fucking play. If that's what he's doing and he pulls this off, he may unironically go down as the greatest President in history.
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>>136894096
Read the thread, and if you really care about the issue, read the article and the links within it. Mueller works for Trump. He was with him in the White House the day before he was appointed by Rosenstein as Special Counsel. Trump is not incompetent. He's a political genius.

>>136894238
>Trump has played the media like a fiddle for two years
He still is.
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As crazy as this sounds, I am worried that very powerful people and organizations are working with China to push NK into war so that this can get sidelined.
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>>136894437
I did, it's all reaching with no evidence. What does Mueller being in the White House have to do with anything?
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>>136894437
On some level, of course.

I hope you're right and we can have a major happening soon where HRC, Podesta and some Obama lieutenant go down.
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>>136894582
Look at Mueller's team. It's designed to prosecute an international criminal organization, not election misconduct. Trump wanted to have one last word in person with Mueller before he started the official investigation. They still talk.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/08/donald-trump-exchanged-private-messages-special-counsel-mueller/547917001/
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>>136894741
>>136894888
Checked, and I hope this is true. I wonder what the timeline is like for the upcoming events? Will this whole NK be a distraction and the deep state carries on? How long until Mueller reveals his real investigation and BTFO's the DNC? Weeks? Months? Years?
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>>136894741
I think the media have to know the jig is up. That's why you haven't heard muh Russia 24/7 from CNN recently. Guaranteed they're keeping a close eye on DWS/Hillary et al and making sure they don't leave the country.
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>>136885665
I voted for Trump with the expectation there would be serious entertainment broadcasted from the white house. I haven't been disappointed in that aspect.
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>>136894888
Please, what makes this team tailor made to take down "international criminal organizations?" They're prosecutors or Mueller's buddies from his old law firm. One of the guys was the Enron Task Force for example. They're trained to look for fishy ties and have experience in government investigations. There's nothing specific to an international crime organization on this team.
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>>136884311
This quenched the thirst OP. Thanks.
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>>136894888
To clarify, you have a guy that was on Enron, another that was on Watergate, one that took down Ponzi schemes, a former FBI chief of staff, and on and on. Seems pretty alright to me.
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>>136894096
>>136894582
>>136895571
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>>136894549
>>136895039
As for the North Korea issue, it's very possible that the deep state/Dem lobbyists are trying to turn China against Trump. Just today they warned that they would retaliate to an American preemptive strike. That would be a worst case scenario and I honestly don't know how that situation would play out. It's definitely a distraction, though. The media has been chipping out and reporting that NK had miniaturized nukes like it was breaking news, but it wasn't. The Washington Post reported that same story in 2013.

As for the timeline, it was reported by multiple outlets yesterday that Hillary was offered a plea bargain in return for pleading guilty, so it might happen soon. See: >>136890215

>>136895571
>>136895798
His team is made up of people who have strong Dem connections and know exactly which crimes were committed. If Russia hacked the election, where are the cyber security experts? Why haven't they seized the DNC server that was allegedly hacked? If one of Trump's bank accounts had received payments from Russian banks they would have known about it after a day's worth of investigation. Just connect the dots. His team is built to expose and take down the Clinton Foundation/DNC.
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>>136896363
The former FBI chief of staff did cybersecurity after his tenure for one. There's one that has Dem ties, and all she did was work for the same law firm that Mueller did. That same law firm defended Clinton in one of her cases and she was on it. Like I said, you're reaching.
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>>136890751
This is high-quality shilling. Congratulations, we're giving you an extra shift next week.
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>>136884311
It's a tantalizing prospect, but I'll believe it when I see it. And I say that not as a criticism of Trump, he's been as good as one could hope. Better than Obama easily.
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>>136896363
They also don't have the server because why would they need it? This isn't one of those hacking movies, how would it help with the investigation?
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>>136896603
I'm trying to find the article with an in-depth bio of every team member, but (((Google))) seems to have buried it. I'll keep looking but if any anons have it (it was posted here a couple weeks ago) please post it. It's not just about Dem ties specifically. It's about Clinton ties. For example, Comey personally delivered uranium to the Russians during the Uranium One scandal. He rose to prominence while clearing Bill Clinton of wrongdoing in either the Caribbean or the Balkans toward the end of his administration. The team is made up of people who in one way or another had to break the law to cover up for the Clintons/Obama.

>>136896866
You need the physical server to provide a second verification of Russian digital fingerprints.
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>>136897113
>Russian digital finger prints

Hackers don't leave traces like that. They know who hackers are by their methods, not by any traces they leave. It's a server, not a murder scene, why would hacking it leave something that's traceable to them?

I found a list pretty fast on Google. On Bloomberg behind a paywall, and on Business Insider without one.
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>>136897113
Also,

>Comey delivered uranium to the Russians personally

What conspiracy sites have you been going on?

As to all of them having to break the law, no. Most of them haven't even worked ob a Clinton case. They're known for other things that I've already mentioned.
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>>136884311
I wish this were true, but I don't believe it. If the trump wants to go after it he has to get sessions to do it. He would have to make it happen.
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>>136897424
>>136897609
Apologies. It was Mueller who delivered the uranium.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/26617-mueller-s-role-in-delivering-uranium-to-russians-raises-questions

Correct. The fingerprints are methods, not unique physical traces like an actual fingerprint.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/02/politics/digital-fingerprints-russia-hacking/index.html

(((Coincidentally))), the CIA has a tool that allows it to put Russian, and other, digital fingerprints (copy their methods to hide their identity) on hacks that they themselves conduct. Really activates my almonds.

>>136897770
See >>136891335
Trump and Sessions are joined at the hip and always have been
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>>136898260
Please archive or screenshot
>http://cnn com/2017/01/02/politics/digital-fingerprints-russia-hacking/index.html
https://unvis.it/cnn.com/2017/01/02/politics/digital-fingerprints-russia-hacking/index.html
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>>136898260
Here's the Vault 7 link about the CIA capability
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/07/wikileaks-cia-hacking-group-umbrage-stockpiled-techniques-other-hackers/98867462/
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>>136898300
Sorry Nordbro I'm just working quickly
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>>136897609
>>Comey delivered uranium to the Russians personally
>What conspiracy sites have you been going on?
uranium sample was delivered to russia by Comey needed for proof of origin of refined uranium that was stolen from russia.
>pile of uranium ends up in wrong place, U.S. finds out and confiscates whole pile.
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>>136898556
*Mueller, not Comey. That was my mistake. See >>136898260
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>>136898627
I sit corrected
thanks for info
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>>136898260
Mueller delivered a 10 g sample of Russian uranium confiscated from smugglers. Georgia was also a part of this transfer because it took place there. Try a real news site.

And again, having the server wouldn't help the FBI. Nothing in that article suggests that it would.

The last point is speculation.
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>>136884311

i want to believe, but i just think Mueller is an establishment cunt and going to protect the corrupt establishment at all costs and target only Trump and its going to be horrible. sigh
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>>136899219
This is more plausible.
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>>136898923
There has to be a little speculation in any investigation. If things appear a certain way, they may be a certain way. Having the server would absolutely help the FBI. A second piece of evidence bolsters the evidence that the NSA has. You're getting too into the weeds on one tiny aspect of this whole thing though. Look at the big picture and connect the dots. You seem like you didn't read the article and like you don't know how Trump fights. You're right that the FBI doesn't need the server to recommend indictments to the AG. That's because there are plenty of other crimes out there.
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>>136899219
Blackmail is blackmail. Even if Mueller didn't agree to play ball when Trump was inaugurated, Trump/Sessions could blackmail him with the same thing the Clintons did and force him to investigate them.
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>>136899512
And now you're just moving to "connect the dots." That's the thing, there's nothing to connect here. Trump fired Comey, which made it look like he was covering something up. Doesn't matter if he actually was covering something up, it still looked bad because Rosentein was involved in the firing and Sessions was recused, so Rosentein got Mueller, a former head of the FBI, to investigate.

That's it. You're not connecting the dots, you're grasping for something that isn't there and connecting disparate things that aren't related or just ignoring facts. I read the article. It's nonsense.
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>>136899980
We'll just have to agree to disagree then. We both have our own implicit biases and thought processes. I'm giving you the best I can, but we're on different wavelengths. Time will reveal which one of us is right.
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>>136885665

So by this standard, if a crook had been elected expect the mafia?

I'll the the circus thank you. I'd rather be entertained than victimized.
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>>136887947
>Clinton plea bargin
Literal fake news
http://www.snopes.com/was-hillary-clinton-offered-a-plea-deal-in-server-investigation-in-august-2017/
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>>136900387
I hope it is indeed fake news. I want to see her locked up.
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>>136896363
So there is literally so much stuff to sift through, that they've been working on it since March and it's still in the works? Damn, shit must run deep.
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>>136900611
It runs deeper than anyone realizes and it's all connected
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>>136900711
>>136900611
Double checked, I suppose. Are you referring to Seth Rich, Awan, Clinton Foundation, Pizzagate, etc all connected into one big shitshow that will be released for all to see the truth? Now that would be a hell of a nuke.
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>>136900164
Why don't you admit that you're just wrong and all of your "connect-the-dot" bullshit is just bullshit?
>trump-voters
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>>136901334

1) Politicians on both sides are corrupt
2) People are only outraged by the other side's lies

At the end of the day, the winner is whoever holds power. This is not a battle that will be won by whoever tells the truth. Both sides have shown that truth is not a requirement for their support.
I don't understand why people are debating what is and isn't truth. For trump supporters trump lies for them. For Hillary supporters Hillary lies for them.
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>>136900836
I was referring to every major economic, national security, environmental, etc policy.
See the below for an example of this:
>>136890698
>>136891327
>>136891631
>>136892334

>>136901334
>why don't you just admit that you're just wrong
I'm not trying to suggest that anyone in this thread is wrong. I'm just proposing a hypothesis and offering evidence to support it. I'm doing my best to debate it and people will make of it what they will
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>>136902029
>Trump lies
Yes, but understand how and why he lies. When he lies, Trump doesn't lie to the American people. He lies through through the American people to the establishment to mask his true intentions.
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>>136902029
>>136902044
Both of your are fucking retarded if you think anything Mueller does right now is related to Clinton and not Trump. Every single member of the investigation has a hate-boner for Trump and the expertise to take him down once and for all.
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>>136884787
LOCK HER UP! I know the President will save the world
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>>136884311
yeah, that's why he raided manafort's house.
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>>136902303
Every single member of the investigation could have been buried by Sessions back in January if that's what Trump wanted. That's not an effective way to drain the swamp though, and would've ultimately proved futile. You need to turn the lower level guys in order to prosecute the puppet masters.
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>>136902529
Manafort is shady as shit and will probably be prosecuted for financial crimes unrelated to the "Russia" investigation
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>>136884311
>>136884787
I truly, truly hope to God that you are correct in this speculation and time line. If that all went down as described, it would perhaps be civil war inducing; if the left's heroes from the previous admin were hauled away in cuffs and chains. Think of the iconic photo of Obama and Hillary in cuffs, it would be meme'd for all eternity. Please let this go down.
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>>136902255
I think you made my point. If trump is advancing your interests then his "lies" are merely tactics to advance a strategy. He only loses if the people who he represents no longer think he is advancing their interests.
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>>136902303
You missed my point.
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>>136884311
Can you post the original?
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>>136890751
I've given up deciphering ironic shills from paid shills. Whichever you are, please quit wasting eveyrone's time. It's too late for (((you))) to have any effect here, just let us circlejerk over the coming Happening please
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>>136903058
Nice pic
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>>136902303
>the expertise to take him down once and for all.

if they do that we'll be shooting them openly from now until some other nation probably Russia and China come in and install a puppet dictator, you toss one to the curb get ready for 100 years or more of instability and chaos

which is very unprofitable
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>>136902819
I didn't make your point. I made mine. When he lies, he lies to advance his supporters' interests. The agenda he wants to advance is draining the swamp. I think the article does a good job of describing what exactly the swamp is. Does that make sense? If not I can try to rephrase.
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>>136902811
Checked
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>>136903227
I understand and agree. I was just expanding it to say that both sides feel the same way. When CNN lies, liberals think they are doing it to advance their interest. Therefore the truth no longer matters. All that matters is winning.
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>>136903183
it's from my "MAGA" folder, a collection within my greater "Meme Magic" folder
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I'm loving the r/Politics tier damage control ITT. I'm sure this really is the end of Drumpf and impeachment is imminent this time.

But in all seriousness how long will it take for all this to play out if OP's theory is indeed correct? As much as people love to shit talk muh 4D chess, Trump's done it before and he'll do it again. Remember the "leaked" tax returns from 2005 or the manufactured spat between Trump and Sessions?
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>>136903502
The sides aren't the left and the right, though. The sides are those who are for authoritarianism (1%) and those against it (99%... though half of them don't realize it). The two-party system is really a one-party system when you look at the fine print. The DNC will cease to exist as a national party before 2018. Republicans will hold super majorities in both houses after the midterms and pass Trump's agenda. The "Republican Party" might still be in tact in 2024 due to Trump, but the establishment Republicans will not. "Republican" will mean something much different in 2024 than it did in 2016 if the party still exists.
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>>136902811
The liberty tree must be watered with the blood of traitors. Last time that happened was in 1861 and the tree is getting mighty thirsty.
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>>136903580
It will happen before the 2018 midterms. The crimes have already been proven because the men and women on the team were a part of them. We're just waiting on the case to be formed. The evidence needs to be compartmentalized and documented to be presented to a judge.
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>>136903580
He does have a history of pulling stunts like this, for sure. No doubt he's pulling the same things but on a national/presidential level. It's all one big, fucking gameshow in there, with many players, ie the press, the internet, companies, etc. He's not a stupid person, he got to his position with playing his cards right. I do believe his twitter is all a smoke-screen/fodder for the media to chew on while the real work is done behind the scenes.
>Look how much evidence and info the internet has collected on all the Awan, DNC, Seth Rich, pizzagate, etc and not a single peep from the MSM. That means they have a hand in all this too, a built up narrative to subvert the president by populace control.

Fuck, I'm drunk and just spilling my guts here, so I could be completely fucking wrong and it's all gonna come crashing down as our borders flood open and we're dissemilated over 2-3 generations.

RIP

Trump is literally our savior and our last chance before we befall into the chaos of the rest of the world. Hang on tight, lads, it's going to be one hell of a 3.5 year stretch.
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>>136904045
That's a rather scary imagery, spoopy.
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>>136903955
I hope you don't think I'm arguing. I think I find it interesting because I agree with you, the right and left are transforming. Not sure how it realigns though. I can see dems disappearing, or I can see them changing their platform so much that although they are still named the dems, it will be a completely different ideology. I suspect the dems will become something very different because they have a valuable infrastructure and so the new political thought will find it advantageous to take them over (a bit like trump did to the republicans).
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>>136900387
>snopes
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>>136904229
You get it. Just be patient and have faith. Our country is about to be saved. Trump is literally our savior. I wish I could put my brain into everyone else's head. I wish people could see what I see. This is so much bigger than anyone realizes. Our most oppressed and victimized people are about to be set free. We're going to have real prosperity in our country again.

>>136904635
I don't think you're arguing, I just think you're skeptical, which I respect. I wish more people were like you. As for the future political landscape, I don't know what it will look like, but I think it's reasonable to suggest that the Democratic Party will collapse completely if most of them are proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have committed crimes against the American people.
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>>136905054
>just be patient anon
>wait for the statute of limitations to expire on all these crimes
the clock is ticking
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>theres not going to be anything interesting
>few perjury charges will be brought up saying "oh well, you did talk to russian"
>nothing will come of it
>entire investigation will be forgotten while the media focuses on the next top news story about why Trump is destroying the world
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>>136905350
>statute of limitations
You have a point. We can't prosecute the Clintons for the crimes they committed in Arkansas.
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>>136904347
He's not wrong, though.
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