Arguing about whether the city of Lwow is Polish or Ukrainian

>>136859576
HA. HA. HA. Polish here. I like you Russians, but come on, it is a Polish city, no doubt about it. Historically, genetically, you name it. How about we slice Ukraine between the two of us?

>>136859576
you mean a future Chinese colony

>>136859576
chyba cię kurwa pojebało złodziejaszku

>>136859576
Polish.
100%, not even a debate.

>>136859576

Wrong. It's Jewish. Everything is ours.
You guys make me laugh.

>>136859576
You mean Lemberg? The true Austrian city to the east?

These Polish fags stole Breslau, Danzig and Stettin, and yet they demand more? Worse than Jews.

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>>136859576
But seriously, Lwów was never really "Ukrainian" until after WW2. "Ukrainian" identity formed only during the second half of the 19th century in the Austrian partition of Poland. It used to be "Galician-Volhynian" and inhabited by Ruthenians (NOT identifying as Ukrainians) in the beginning of its history. But again, Lwów early passed down LEGALLY to Poland after Jerzy-Bolesław's childless death. The city was built almost entirely out of wood then, but after Kazimierz Wielki took it, he moved the city center few hundred meters and appointed architects to build a whole new city (old town) from scratch, even down to the street layout. Thus Lwów has been for the most of its life been within Poland and had a Polish majority for 600 years and thus is overwhelmingly Polish by architecture. A Polish city through and through. Like Stanisławów (Ivano-Frankivsk) and Tarnopol (Ternopil) being founded and built each by a Polish noble-hetman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiekjno91WA

>>136859576
>>>/x/
"russian" "polish" and """ukrainian""" dont exist
its a slavic city
nationalist shills gtfo

what he said
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>>136862302
To be precise: the poles that were thrown out of eastern poland (lemberg and shit) were settled on our clay as compensation.
Most west poles are actually east poles and when you have been in cities like Stettin(szczzzczeczzin) or Waldenburg(Walbrzich) you can see theiy are congress poles (russian poles) in their shifty ways compared to the civilized austrian or prussian poles.

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>>136862302
>These Polish fags stole Breslau, Danzig and Stettin,
Jesus Christ... You retarded.

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>>136862302
>>136862930
You can fuck off. Germs are literally the worst clay and civilian murderers in Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_takeover_of_Danzig_(Gdańsk)

>>136863140
>go back more than 1000 years to claim clay
kek - almost like the jews

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>>136863286
Germs will always be Germs.

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>>136859576
Reminder r*ssia should be striked by a massive coallition and balkanised for the sake of humanity.

Good luck managing the MOUNTAINS of garbage that shithole of a city wasn't able to sort on its own.

>>136859576
How do you pronounce Lwow?

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>>136863302
Gdansk has been within Poland for 700 years you retard. Prussians stole it from Poland in 1772.

>>136859576
Wrong. All cities are American

>>136863533
Львoв - L'wow

Beady Anglo with Ukrainian heritage (WE WUZ BOHDAN). Just partition the place between Poland and Russia. It's a fake gender identity anyway. Ukrainians are just Russians, but poorer.

>>136863533

Lvuv. ''U'' as in rude. Close enough at least.

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>>136863286
>You can fuck off. Germs are literally the worst clay and civilian murderers in Europe.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_takeover_of_Danzig_(Gdańsk)

100% stolz darauf.

>>136863455
>spain
>any beef with russkies
??????

Not sure if russian liberashka on vocation or some russian oligarchs edgy libshit kid in his dads villa.

>>136859576
Lviv= Tall blond women, good beer, fantastic music scene, great cheap food. I want to go back.

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>>136863472
>Good luck managing the MOUNTAINS of garbage that shithole of a city wasn't able to sort on its own.
Do you see any mountains of shit anywhere hohol???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiekjno91WA

>>136862302
look up why these cities are named like that in german you nigger

>>136863390
and?
in Danzig the population was almost exclusivly German, also under polish rule after the middleages.
And before 900 it was also German tribe living there - the Goths. So the Poles lived there for some 300/400 years in the middle ages..
muh polish clay..kek

>>136859576
It's Ukrainian now. We can go back to our petty squabbles after the greater issue of Jews and nonwhite hordes is addressed.
>>136861742
kek
JESZCZE POLSKA

>>136863569
it was under polish rule, but the inhabitants were not polish...prussia also ruled in poland over parts that were not german...and?

>>136864066
Because they belonged to the German Reich and where inhabited by German people?

>>136863979
No, that is one of those Ukrainians who go to Europe for work, met plenty of them when I was on vacation there, the entire hotel cleaning staff spoke only Ukrainian kek

>>136863455
But that was attempted. Twice in recent history. To the point the only men left in Europe are subsaharn sex migrants and passive-aggressive froglets autisitically screeching about Russia on Nepalese watermelon smoking chalkboard.

>>136864377
no you nigger, it's because these are german transcriptions of the original names of these cities

>>136864053
Yeah, the poles.

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>>136864145
>in Danzig the population was almost exclusivly German,
No it was not, only much later on.
>And before 900 it was also German tribe living there - the Goths. So the Poles lived there for some 300/400 years in the middle ages..
>So the Poles lived there for some 300/400 years in the middle ages..
muh polish clay..kek
You fucking high or something?

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>>136864595
So what if they were Polish villages during the Dark Ages, the point is that they were built and developed as modern cities by Germans, and they were inhabited by Germans up till the Jews won WWII.

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>>136864377
Hey retard.
>The name Berlin has its roots in the language of West Slavic inhabitants of the area of today's Berlin, and may be related to the Old Polabian stem berl-/birl- ("swamp").[26] All German place names ending on -ow, -itz and -in, of which there are many east of the River Elbe, are of Slavic origin (Germania Slavica). There are many boroughs of Slavic origin in the city: Berlin-Karow, Berlin-Malchow, Berlin-Pankow, Berlin-Spandau (earlier: Spandow), Berlin-Gatow, Berlin-Kladow, Berlin-Steglitz, Berlin-Lankwitz, Berlin-Britz, Berlin-Buckow, Berlin-Rudow, Berlin-Alt-Treptow, Berlin-Schmöckwitz, Berlin-Marzahn and Berlin-Köpenick. Since the Ber- at the beginning sounds like the German word Bär (bear), a bear appears in the coat of arms of the city. It is therefore a canting arm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin#Etymology

>>136864427
Shiiiiiieeeeeet Ivan.......dial down the savagery
>>136864382
Kek
As the chosen people how so you see the fact that cuckraine has 60% jewish ministry cabinet, Moishe?

>>136865059
Who cares about the origin of the name, shithead? Many cities in the Americas have Indian names, that doesn't mean they belong to the Indians, they were built by Europeans.

>>136864984
>So what if they were Polish villages during the Dark Ages,
Gdansk a village in the 14th century? You fucking stupid or something? And Gdansk flourished in the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland during Poland's Golden Age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Golden_Age

> No it was not, only much later on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Poland
>Although the population of the Kingdom of Poland in late Middle Ages consisted mostly of Poles, influx of other cultures was significant: particularly notable were Jewish and German settlers, who often formed significant minorities or even majorities in urban centers

urban centers like danzig. you dont believe the hansa let its city be run and populated by other people? Thorn, Reval(Tallin) and so on had all German majority.

>>136865237
They are Zhidi, the shitty Jews that nobody likes.

>>136864984
Oh look, a retarded Argentinian trying to discuss European history.

>>136865514
it was under polish rule but through the hasa germans ruled and lived in the city.

>>136865555
>>136865555
>urban centers like danzig. you dont believe the hansa let its city be run and populated by other people? Thorn, Reval(Tallin) and so on had all German majority.
The Polish and German populations were somewhat equal until the 18th century. And much of the "German" population of Gdansk was in actual fact Dutch and Flemish.
Torun was within the Hansa in the middle ages while it was in Poland and had a Polish majority until 19th century when the Prussians started suppressing Polishes after the partitions and expelling Poles. So yeah, you're wrong.

>>136860269
>genetically
It's not really an argument. Genetically you are close even to Russians in certain areas.
Ethnically is more important. And right now it's not Polish. All Poles were expelled by commies and ukrainian bydlo was brought in from rural areas. And many of them would beat you up for telling them that it's yours.

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>>136859576
Is that a Russian girl?

>>136861960
Well, considering that Ukraine is run by jews. It's true.

>>136865059
In Attila I've made you all Greco-Roman of the Eastern Roman Empire.

>>136865807
The Hansa had its roots in trade through guilds, but infrastructure and public management was all organized by the nobility.

>>136864257
>We can go back to our petty squabbles after the greater issue of Jews and nonwhite hordes is addressed.
Fucking truth

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>>136863286
Ja pierdole typie mam wrażenie, że ty masz jakis kurwa specjalny folderek z tymi jebanymi zdjęciami, które wrzucasz ..
>pic rel
.. Kiedy się pojawia jakis thread o Polsce. Zluzuj kurwa, patrz -- przez ciebie mam sam ból dupy o to, ze ty masz ból dupy,

>>136863472
I thought they've managed it.

>>136866259
>Ja pierdole typie mam wrażenie, że ty masz jakis kurwa specjalny folderek z tymi jebanymi zdjęciami, które wrzucasz ..
;)
>.. Kiedy się pojawia jakis thread o Polsce. Zluzuj kurwa, patrz -- przez ciebie mam sam ból dupy o to, ze ty masz ból dupy,
;D

>>136859576
It's actually rightfully Norwegian.

>>136865923
now ukrainian bydlo lives in houses and lands of former polish peacock nobility and behaves like polish nobility (polish nobles were as poor as current ukrainian bydlo)

even more , they praise UPA and Bandera.

this is irony.

>>136863889
Saved for future baits, shills and larps

>>136864019
>Tall blond women
made for black dick

>>136859576
imagine this girl blacked, hot as fuck

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>>136866519
>polish nobility (polish nobles were as poor as current ukrainian bydlo)
I think you hit your head or something.

P.S.
>"us Prussians ... are the Poles equal brothers or their servants"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danzig_law

>>136863455
You're a real dum dum aren't you. Russia has nukes all over the country. Go ahead and balkanise us. You'll get 10 nuclear equipped rogue states. Don't ask us for help.

Why would anyone care for the shithole that is Eastern Europe

god, I wish the Iron curtain never fell...

>>136866765
So do I. East Berlin was real comfy

>>136866887
kek

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>>136865897
Fuck, even 1/3 of Prussia - created by a Polish king in 1525 as Poland's vassal - had a Polish majority.And 40% of Königsbergs inhabitants in the 17th century were Poles.

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>>136866887
Nice, Ivan.

>>136865897
In Danzig the population was never equal after the teutonic order destroyed the city and killed manz of the inhabitants..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_takeover_of_Danzig_(Gda%C5%84sk)

>According to Stefan Maria Kuczyński, the German population only achieved the majority after local Polish population was murdered and a new settlement was built by Teutonic Knights

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>>136859576
Lviv is rightful Portuguese clay.

>>136866519
>and behaves like polish nobility
That's what really gets me. Commies basically handed them this beautiful city. And now it's a rundown shithole with crumbling poorly maintained buildings surrounded by heaps of rotting trash. At least Poles didn't ruin eastern German cities.
And the people consider themselves so cultured and above other Ukrainians. I mean yeah, they are "artsy", with all their coffee and chocolate shops. But I wouldn't really call them smart or civilized. Really obnoxious people, fuck them.

>>136866733
>Westerners try to Balkanize Russia
>a wild rogue state appears in Siberia
>some crazed up half drunk Russian general decides to go full Zhirinovsky on Europe and America
>launches shitload of nukes all over the world
>NATO is confused as fuck since they barely know who to retaliate against

Now that I think of it, why can't Russia or China declare that some nuclear submarine went rogue and get the West nuked?

>>136867152
I said somehow. Yes, Germans achieved majority, but Poles remained a large minority, around 35% and the Dutch and Flemish were about 15% + other minorities.
>the German population only achieved the majority after local Polish population was murdered and a new settlement was built by Teutonic Knights

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if lwów is polish then breslau is german, and i wouldn't want that 2bh, i was born here and i love my city :DDDD

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>>136867604
That cathedral in the background was built by Polish Piasts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_Piasts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Silesia

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>>136867844
Never 4get that.

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>>136866657
it is truth

your forgot that poland was a part of russian empire and they have learned all your features (to fight with you if you chimp out lol)

poland had big but very poor nobility, some of them were poorer than free farmers

ive tranlsated from russian source lol,

magnateria - 0,001% rich oligarchs
szlachta zamożna - 0,1% rich
szlachta fołwarczna - 0,5% landowners lol
szlachta cząstkowa - 1-2% small landowners

rest
szlachta zaściankowa, szlachta okoliczna, szlachta zagrodowa - poor nobility, homeless nobility LOL
szlachta bezrolna albo szaraczkowa - landless nobility LOL
szlachta czynszowa - working nobility LOL
szlachta służebna - nobility on payroll LOL
holota - miserable nobility LOL
szlachta brukowa - bum nobility, homeless nobility

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>>136859576
That girl looks white, i didn't know Russia had white people.

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>>136868327

Lviv é galego!
Galicia para os gallegos!
Lviv para os gallegos!

Viva a Kyiv, a Galiza, e Todos os Russos, na sua pátria portuguesa!

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>>136868414
>Reproduction of the funeral medal by Jerzy Wilhelm Legnicki in Legnica with the inscription
PIASTI ET NARCH POLONI ULTIMUS NEPOS PRINCEPS
>("The last descendant of the Polish rulers of the Piasts").

>>136868407
i doesnt now go away

>>136859576
nice try, ivan, the entire world is American clay

>>136868174
>magnateria - 0,001% rich oligarchsszlachta zamożna - 0,1% richszlachta fołwarczna - 0,5% landowners lolszlachta cząstkowa - 1-2% small landownersrest szlachta zaściankowa, szlachta okoliczna, szlachta zagrodowa - poor nobility, homeless nobility LOLszlachta bezrolna albo szaraczkowa - landless nobility LOLszlachta czynszowa - working nobility LOLszlachta służebna - nobility on payroll LOLholota - miserable nobility LOLszlachta brukowa - bum nobility, homeless nobility
Now those numbers aren't accurate. Show me what source because I know those are wrong. Besides, 10% of PLC's population was noble, which is about over 1 million people, so of course there would be many different statuses of nobles, but that data isn't entirely correct.
But you have quite missed the point, there were kings who gave out noble titles to whole villages for various reasons.

Gib Lemberg

>>136867595
>but Poles remained a large minority, around 35%
and many of the dutch and poles eventually assimilated into the german population.
The same thing happened to the germans in Lemberg/Lwow - they eventually became polish.

i live in berlin and the whole process of the colonization and in the end assimilation of the slawic people that lived here some 1000+ years ago was for the most part not a violent one. population numbers were very low and the local population rather backward for the time. the slaws imported most of their technology and social inventions from the west - from the germans. so people comming setteleing next to them or cutting some forrest to make farmland and bring new and better tech were not really enemies and in the end both mixed and became one.
So, the slaws never left Breslau or Stettin, they just spoke another language and were mixed with the germans, when your government and stalin threw them out, so eastern poles from Lwow could live there.

>>136865059
>>136864638
>>136864871
>>136864595
Get back to the gass chamber, I thought after killing 17% of your Population including the Jews we could be get into a better relationship, but it seems your drunk Football Players still have a fetish for crying about SS killing children, because they made up 1/4 of your "Recruiting over a thousand Jews and waiting for Soviets to save us will work"-Uprising.

Bull of Rieti and Treaty of Kruschwitz, Pope and Holy Roman Emperor guarantee the crusaders who were ordered to come there by the Polish, that all land they ever conquered and posessed shall be theirs for eternity.
House of Brandenburg inheritated Prussia legitemately and with acception of the Polish King.

Treaty of Visegrad(I bet it hurts) and Trentschin,
Polish King guaranteed that Silesia never would be part of Poland again, Luxembourgians gained controll, the Habsburgs inheritated it and later gave it to the Prussians, who attacked for inheritance-reasons, which the Austrians recognized.

Pommerania and Brandenburg currently belong to Germany, but you stole parts of them.

Saint Hedwig, Wife of the Duke of Silesia and daughter of the Bavarian King, she and her man ordered Germans to migrate to Central Poland,Posen,Krakau and so on.

The Polish King first ruled as vassall of the German-Roman Emperor.

Gnesen,Posen,Kolberg and Breslau were Bishoprics founded by Germans and later settled by them.

Poles profitated from German City right, German architecture, German workers,specialists,merchants and advisors,German Hanseatic Trade etc.

Your nobility elected 2 Saxons Kings and during the times of the Warsaw-Duchy the Normal People cheered for their new Saxon ruler,dousands of your Queens were Habsburgs.

German was an official language in the Commonwealth and a common trade language.

Polish Archbishop of Posen:"No People are as similiar as Germans and Poles".

faggot mods deleting threads

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>>136869084
only 1k families were magnates
polish economy was based on ariculture

10% were poor and landless nobles.

so current ukrainian bydlo in lvov that praises upa-bandera can have better lifestyle (or even better) than for example polish homeless nobility, polish landless nobilit, polish miserable nobility or polish bum-nobility in 18 century

many nobles in poland were homeless btw.

polish bum-nobility is the most fun thing that i was able to find in google today.

hawaii is rightfully russian

>>136870244
alaska and everything up to northern cali is, if you take the rule, who was there first

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>>136869546
>and many of the dutch and poles eventually assimilated into the german population.
Not until the 19th century when Prussia starting Germanizing those lands.
>i live in berlin and the whole process of the colonization and in the end assimilation of the slawic people that lived here some 1000+ years ago was for the most part not a violent one.
Now that's pure BS.
>So, the slaws never left Breslau or Stettin, they just spoke another language and were mixed with the germans,
That is still the case in whole of east Germany.

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>>136868607
Could be American tourist in Russia, but picture only links to vkontakte, which is very weird.

>>136870244
Nonsense. We conquered it. It's ours. But the Galician people deserve to be with their own - not dominated by Warsawan Pollocks or Muscovite Katsaps or Berliner Nazis or Kyivan Khokhóls and especially not Castilian Espantards.

>>136869582
Oh you fucking Germ. I hope you get genocided by the Jews like Gregor Gysi and their Muslims puppets. Better pay pic rel.
>Pope and Holy Roman Emperor guarantee the crusaders who were ordered to come there by the Polish,
Who the fuck does the HRE emperor have to do with lands that don't belong to him moron. It was one of Poland's greatests mistakes inviting the Teutons to northern Poland in the first place. The Teutons literally betrayed the Polish prince later on and stole whole northern Poland for around 100 years. Simply clay thieving and civilian murdering scum hiding behind "Christianity".

>>136869582
>>136871710
>Gnesen,Posen,Kolberg and Breslau were Bishoprics founded by Germans and later settled by them
Gniezno, Poznan, Vratislav founded by Germans.
Holy shit you're RETARDED.
> Early Slavonic settlements on Lech Hill and Maiden Hill are dated to the 8th century.[1] At the beginning of the 10th century this was the site of several places sacred to the Slavic religion. The ducal stronghold was founded just before AD 940 on Lech Hill, and surrounded by some fortified suburbs and open settlements.
>Around AD 940 Gniezno, being an important pagan cult center, became one of the main fortresses of the early Piast rulers, along with aforementioned fortresses at Giecz, Kruszwica, Poznań, Kalisz, Łęczyca, Ostrów Lednicki, Płock, Włocławek, and others. Mieszko I might have moved the capital to Gniezno from Poznań after his own and his realm's baptism, but the actual move may have coincided with a growing German menace in the late 10th century and early 11th century. depositing the remains of Saint Adalbert in a newly built church, to underline Gniezno's importance as the religious centre and capital of Bolesław I Chrobry's kingdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gniezno#History
>Settlements in the area existed from the 6th century onward, when during migration period, Slavic tribe Ślężans settled on the Oder and erected on Ostrów Tumski a gord.
>The city was first recorded in the 10th century as Vratislavia, the Bohemian duke Vratislaus I founded here a Bohemian stronghold.[11] Vratislavia was possibly derived from the duke's name Vratislav. In 985, Duke Mieszko I of Poland conquered Silesia including Wrocław. The town was mentioned explicitly in the year 1000 AD in connection with a founding of a bishopric during the Congress of Gniezno.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wroc%C5%82aw#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C5%82obrzeg#History

>>136867414
Been in Lwów in April, it's so sad to see the old buildings crumbling. I'd be more ok with the current ownership if not for this treatment of historic legacy.

>>136869582
>Your nobility elected 2 Saxons Kings and during the times of the Warsaw-Duchy the Normal People cheered for their new Saxon ruler,
They are seen as bad kings and their rule as a waste of precious time.

>>136870098
>than for example polish homeless nobility, polish landless nobilit, polish miserable nobility or polish bum-nobility in 18 century
You do realize that that type of nobility had better lives and more privileges and rights than most people in all of Europe?
>many nobles in poland were homeless btw.
Do you even know what it means. It didn't mean they slept under the bare sky. If you were of poor nobility it meant you couldn't send your kids to an academy or on an European trip. You lived in a city together with other townsfolk or on the land of some other noble in town or village. You still enjoyed rights unprecedented elsewhere in all of Europe.

>>136859576
Lemberg, former Austrian City, settled with Germans, it would be OK if you would get it Russians.
>>136870586
We fought in 1812 and 1813 with you, Germans and Poles.
We sung your Anthem in the 1830 Revolution.
We fought with you in WW1 and gave you an Independent state and helped Pilsudski.
We had a non-Agression pact.
We took 1,5 Million of your People, almost more than "Refugees".
We give you financial aid, buy your produts, invest in your Country and everybody here likes you somehow.

Still you steal our cars, have a Mafia smuggling Columbian Cocaine,Czech Crystal Meth,Tobacco mixed with rat-poison,bringing Prostitution and Illegal Migration, we send troops to protect your ass against Russians because you wanted it.
You never even apologized for Murdering Hundred and thousands of Germans, stealing their property and wealth, settling in their cities, force their relatives to flee and even stuffed some into Concentration Camps which supposedly killed your People.

You crossed the Oder, illegally.

Your politicians make Propaganda against us and now demand us to pay them Money.

Don't be such unthankful bastards, don't you feel bad that yourwealth Comes from Cities build by Germans, while you refuse to take your territories in Galicia and are butthurt about Lithuania?

Grow some balls and stop convincing MAGAfaggots to help your jingoism, because "Muh White Utopia", the youth wants Multiculturalism and has danceclubs in Breslau with Muslim "workers" in it.

We all must fight for Liberty and against Brussels.

>>136871710
>>136871743
>>136872045
Well thanks for your progressive Opinions and advisory, bet you will save all world Nations, it will definetely work if you wish everyone you don't like to be fucked by niggers and towelheads.

But hey, your GDP is as high as that of Belgium!

>>136863286
>butthurt about the teutonic knights
>has a deus vult flag
you have not thought this though, did you?

anyway, i am out...ja musze praca jutro moj polak z duze analny boli

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>>136872640
>Lemberg, former Austrian City, settled with Germans,
>Population makeup by ethnicity 1900–2001
>Ethnicity 1900 1931
>Ukrainians 19.9% 15.9%
>Jews 26.5% 31.9%
>Poles 49.4% 50.4%
>Austrians-Germans around 3%
You can fuck off.
And you can fuck off with "we-wuzing" as well piece of shit. You have been the worst neighbor we could have ever asked for. Ostsiedlung and letting you settle was a mistake. Inviting the Teutons was a mistake. Creating Prussia was a mistake. Now when you talk about financial aid, you have not paid jack shit for WW2 and better start doing it like you did to France in 2010 for WW1.
>are butthurt about Lithuania?
Its the other way around moron.

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>>136873396
>you have not thought this though, did you?
You're a fucking idiot. The Teutons were "Christians". Even the Roman Pope condemned them and holy Bridget of Sweden said that God will punish them for what they are doing in Poland - attacking a fellow Christian nation and steal cities and slaughtering their citizens. Fuck them and fuck you.

It's time to admit that all russia is good for is naked 12 year olds on periscope

>>136859576
It doesn't have enough alcoholics, drug addicts, poverty, car crashes, and violent crime to be a Russian city.

>>136873573
You just do the same with your screaching about "corperating with you was an error/you are the worst"-shit, I only talk about what was German posessions, not historical roles, as you like to do for (obviously) practical reasons.

The Lemberg-Phrase was pointed at the Russian OP, you very important faggot.

If my post didn't contain that Phrase, would you have said same?

WW1 treaty was not signed by Kaiser and Goverment but by some Jewish-Socialists, also thanks for Importing Rosa Luxembourg to us.
WW2 never had a peace treaty between Germans and Allies and we are still occupied.
If you really want to ignore Posts that directly are pointed at you and Polish unthankfulness, do it, live in your safespace of beeing always right.

>>136873573
>have not paid jack shit for WW2
Why should they? Destroying property is fair game in war. You're just jealous that they were better at it than you. Why should the Germans apologize for their military success?

>>136859576
It's de jure Polish clay but Poles don't live there so it's de facto Ukrainian territory.

>>136859576
God damn where can I find qts that look like that? Ukraine?
A blonde blue eyed with freckles and that face makes me harder than any so called models.

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>>136874935
>If you really want to ignore Posts that directly are pointed at you and Polish unthankfulness,
What exactly are we supposed to be thankful for? Being our eternal enemies since ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Poland#Piast_Poland
Or the fact that you've cowardly partitioned us, then harshly Germanized us, then murdered us in the millions, destroyed our cities and stolen our culture that you display in your museums, and are cooperating with Russia over our dead bodies, like you did in 1772-1795, 1939 and still trying to do today - Nordsream, Nordstream 2, protecting Russia from sanction against the U.S.

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>>136875356
>Destroying property is fair game in war.
...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_destruction_of_Warsaw
>military success?
Jesus Christ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wola_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochota_massacre

>>136875836
I told you, don't Play the fool.

>>136876015
Poles in Warsaw refused to surrender, Soldiers prepared defenses right next to civilian Buildings, what do you expect to happen?

Sending multiple Regiments to die in that City, where probably thousands of civilians will arm for a last stand, making it even harder to find an alternative to "let our soldiers die until we win", does this Sound good to you?


Your delusionism will probably cause you to say yes.

And why does this matter?


Even if the destruction of the City was planned, why would you refuse to surrender if there aren't even Anti-Air Guns to defend?

>>136875836
Well I bet Nord Stream goes straight through your ancient territory, or cleans your ass.

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>>136877423
>Poles in Warsaw refused to surrender, Soldiers prepared defenses right next to civilian Buildings, what do you expect to happen?
Hey moron, YOU DON'T PLAY THE FOOL OR RATHER RETARD HERE >>136876015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wola_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochota_massacre
Germans killed 50,000 civilians in just 7 days, whole districts full of civilians. They went from tenement to tenement, killing all civilians - men, women, elderly, children - inside them then setting the houses on fire. And that's just in Wola and Ochota. Another 150 civilians died, especially when Germans were bombing hospitals with red crosses on their roofs on purpose.

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>>136878553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenberg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_AB-Aktion_in_Poland

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This debatte used to be about Lemberg, now it's a meme.

>>136878833
Go kys you 3% >>136873573 3% former inhabitant of "Lemberg".

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>>136878553
>>136878663
Are my parents Alois and Klara Hitler or why should I bother?

>>136879074
>37 posts by this ID
Either a polackenlummel or a christian cuck. Either way, subhuman filth. Polish should give the German land back because the Germans will actually do something with it unlike you lazy slobs

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>>136878364
>Another 150 civilians died,
*150 thousand
>>136879213
So fuck off then. This new German-Polish friendship post 1989 is built on lies as you still have not paid any reparations to Poland for WW2. >>136873573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB2rWJbWaRQ

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>>136878364
>>136879074
Sure thing sweety, it's not like I only prefer Lemberg as this name is more trusted to me.

Should I stick my Penis in? Your ass sure seems to be wet by now!

>>136879512
>you still have not paid any reparations to Poland for WW2
oh fuck off, we'd rather put them back in the gas chambers than give them a dime, because we know they'll do fuck all with our hand made money

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>>136879511
Now a fucking retarded oy zwei Nazi Bulgar appeared. As clockwork.
>>136879636
>Should I stick my Penis in?
Yes, but in your mothers as Germans do surely love bestiality.

>>136879843
On vacation, FYI. If you start to get your superpower delusions again, we'll ramp up our economy and buttrape you again in a couple of weeks, try it.

>>136879511
Don't worry brate, the Germans will recover as always, current Shitheaded "Right-Wing" "experts" are People the same People who have screached about German cuckness and the required Takeover of Areas like Lübeck or Berlin, only that the next war we have is going to be the 3rd WW and all good Things are 3 ;)

>>136879843
Next you tell me Native Polish Arored Vehicles are superior to all models of the Leopard tank and Polish paramilitary is best because kurwa.

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>>136880031
>>136880013
im Sunny Beach mann, aber die bulgare sind cool

>>136859576
>pic
one of the best qt's on pol Ive seen in a while

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>>136880013
>we'll ramp up our economy and buttrape you again in a couple of weeks, try it.
Now the ones doing the butt raping will be the Americans. Don't forget who's leash you're on Germ cuck.
>>136880031
>all good Things are 3 ;)
Which is why Germany will be partitioned this time it starts any shit.
>>136880281
>Next you tell me Native Polish Arored Vehicles
No, because we ceased their production because you destroyed our tank, as well as the car, train and airplane industries during WW2, so we ceased development of our own native made armor.

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>>136881230
So no, I won't compare late 1930's equipment to modern day German tanks.

P.S. There are some currently developed tank projects like the Anders platform but I don't even count that.

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>>136881408
:3