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How do we shame men back into their traditional roles?

>Men’s relationships frequently overlap; they won’t leave one partner until they find another, so they are never really single.

>‘Very few men are happy to be by themselves, too. They lurch from one relationship to another, whereas middle-aged women are a lot stronger and more self-assured than they were in the last generation.

https://archive.is/m2kE8
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Man, we've had this same thread 300 times. How much more can you discuss the same thing?
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>sassy

I wonder if that's a euphemism for a less than desirable trait...
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>>136838153
Yeah it's getting boring.

Anyway. If an older women wants to be my stand-in mummy be my guest.
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>>136838062
Is "sassy and sophisticated" code for "old and infertile?"
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>sassy
aka "I'm a huge insufferable bitch"

try being nice instead of sassy and you might not be single. don't run a date like a board meeting
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>>136838062
Their problem is that being sassy isn't enough for most men, they need women that are also fierce and are able to rock poor fashion choices.
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>>136838062
You can't. Main driving power in capitalism is money. If traditional role doesn't provide best income it is not viable no amount of shaming will solve this.
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>>136838062
Would bang, wife the 42yo physics PhD redhead no problem.
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Eligible men don't date women over 25.
If you're eligible to an entitled dried up old whore you're eligible to a 20 year old hottie. Why would anyone choose the former?
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>>136838062
>46
>51
>52
>42
>48

Guys I think I know why
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>>136838062
>men back into their traditional roles?
create women worth that investment
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They're just going to have to lower their standards, or be called misandrists.
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>Men’s relationships frequently overlap; they won’t leave one partner until they find another

This is an outright lie, women do this with far more predictability.
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>>136838062
Unfortunately for parasitic old cunts, you can't shame men into doing what you want, you can only shame them into staying out of whatever participation based system you're running.

Doubly unfortunate that, as the only actual contributors to any given system, when you shame them out of it the system stops working

Guess women will have to accept their place in the world (ie serving under the good graces of men) or die single and alone
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>>136838062
>Sophisticated
There supposedly was a time when women civilized their husbands.
That time is over. Killed by reality TV and other trash that robbed women of their sophistication.
All that is left is banal shit they flaunt with glee of a small child,
stupid trends that are supposedly life changing and more revolutionary than the second coming of Christ.
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>>136839844
problem is she wants you to wife her, but you'll be doing all the cooking and cleaning and there won't be any sex because she's too busy sassily spending all of your money on jamarquandarious and shoes
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>>136838153
They're so one- dimensional it's comedic at this point.
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>>136838062

> Women forgo all traditional roles
> How do we shame men back into their traditional roles?
You want to use us like the old days? GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN BITCH.
Otherwise us men will just have to live without our sassy women. Barf in a bag.
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>>136838062

>Other halves that can messure up

Do these dumb coozes realize a man their age with similar career success is actually way out of their leauge?

Their sexual value is pretty much worthless
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>>136840725

Oh definitely. Women are 70% of all divorce starters, the majority of all relationship break up starters, etc etc.

It's no surprise that if you're already intending to break up with your partner, you'd line up a replacement. Men rarely seek breaking up with their partner, even if times are tough, therefore they have no reason to seek another girl unless they intend to cheat.
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>>136838153
Welcome to pol. Where people post articles from months ago and act like it just happened
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>>136840725
this. it's the complete opposite

usually some bitch will be texting with another guy, then leave and immediately go to him
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>>136841649

It's why they're so cocksure whenever they dump a guy, they've already divorced them in their minds and they're already infatuated with someone else.
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>>136841216
Successful men of that age can get younger women. Men like younger, women like older.
Why a woman would ever wait to get married is beyond me
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>>136841414
this
after riding various dicks to the age of 30 is it no surprise when they panic and can't find anyone? All of the higher status men are dating women in their 20s.
They should be thanking feminism while they rot away in loneliness desu. No remorse for them..
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>>136838062
>destroy family
>men without family have no sense of duty
> men don't work because there isn't anything to work for
>Why isn't a man working for me REEEEEE
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>>136838062
>old
>past babymaking age
>completely focused on career
>no clue how to make a man happy (other than conference hotel blowjobs)
>still wanting to "marry up"
>where have all the good men gone!?

The answer to this question is obvious and it honestly makes me a little frustrated that they don't see it.

My gf is a psychologist and we were dating when she was in her psyd program (similar to phd). It was almost exclusively girls in her cohort and to a tee the only ones left that are happy at this point are the ones that weren't exclusively focused on their careers and marrying up. They all were unmarried when they graduated, in their early 30s, and bemoaned the fact that they weren't barefoot and pregnant because they had spent the last ten years focusing on job/school. She's now 34 and bugging the shit out of me to move in cause the only friends she has that are happy dropped their standards slightly and are married and pregnant.

Women finding happiness and self-actualization through career is a meme and extremely rare especially once they feel their egg count dropping.
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>>136838062
Well they missed the train by 15 years at least
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>>136840725
50% of women who are happy in their relationships still have a back up guy ready.

Every year a given marriage has a 50% chance of ending.

Close to 90% of marriages don't last 10 years when accounting for people who get remarried. So yeah, marriage is a trap.
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>>136842291
meant that they ended up happy by marrying down, not marrying up.
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lol here's a tip for any woman wondering where all the good men went

>1. invent a time machine
>2. go back in time and unfuck the 30 dicks you took
>3. learn how to cook, clean and be kind
>4. you now have 8+/10 men that want to wife you
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>>136842468
you're 100% right though
They refuse to drop their standards or learn how to make a relationship last when there's another dick around the corner. And then they cry about it when all of the karma comes back to bite them, and they lose their looks. RIP
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>>136838062
>all these old hags have probably left behind good men devoted to them in search of something better
>now no right minded lad wants their dried up uterus

Am I close?
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>>136838062
When a major war happens, most of these women will be useless.
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>>136839199
This. Successful women can be real bitches. My wife is a successful alpha female in business and I sometimes have to tell her to watch the sassy mouth bc I'm not one of her employees and I'll bend her over and spank her.

But I've known her since she was 16, I can't imagine meeting one of these old slags and putting up with their sass
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>>136842291
Can confirm for PsyD program.

Meanwhile, the single 30-year old family psych guy I know alternates between great guy and gentleman, and omega chad that obliterates classes of 21 year old girls.

>communication skills and money, who knew??
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>>136840081
sides
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>>136841799
>Men like younger, women like older.
That article actually says the opposite. The women were bitching because their only matches were men older than them.
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>>136838062
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>>136843955
Anon , beyond a certain treshold things are different.
They are all too old now why would a grandma want a grandpa instead of a stud ?
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Sluts who spent their youth "having fun" surprised that "good men" don't want someone else's sloppy sevenths.
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>>136838062
>tfw It took me 22 years of life to realise that women refer to Chads only when they talk about men.

>Men’s relationships frequently overlap; they won’t leave one partner until they find another, so they are never really single.
>‘Very few men are happy to be by themselves, too. They lurch from one relationship to another, whereas middle-aged women are a lot stronger and more self-assured than they were in the last generation.

Literally talking about Chad. They dont see the irony that branchswinging is a purely feminine imperative.

The men who "have another lined up" are the top 5% men who get any woman they want.

These 50 year old slags in the article could easily bag a 50 year old average Joe, but they want a 40 year old power lifter CEO.

>fulfill masculine rolls
>die alone and miserable
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>>136844627
damn right!!!
i always ask them the question if they rather want a new shoe no one else has used or if they like to have a shoe that has been used by 7-10 people before... u should see the faces... and than the face when they realized i wasnt talking about shoes at all
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>>136838062
LOL all the men their age got married 10 years ago to 20yr old 9/10s. Only men that would have these would be 70yr old's hyped up on viagra.
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>>136838062
Keep making these articles because it seems to be working wonders!!!
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>>136838062

There are plenty of men out there in fulfilling relationships, starting families and whatnot (myself included). On /pol/, the "men" are too busy worshiping at the feet of other men (Trump), instead of chasing women, because they are effeminate cucks.
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>>136845414

Weaponized turbo autists arent "men".
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men are so pathetic they can't even be alone for some time. neurotic pieces of shit.
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>>136844627
This is a meme irl. I constantly see people on here posting the whole "sloppy seconds" thing and that guys don't want women that have been sluts. Entirely untrue and the wrong issue to focus on here. Guys in their 30s and 40s don't give a shit who or have women have fucked. They DO, however, care that they're not fucking crazy with a bunch of baggage and that they're at least relatively attractive compared to how the guy himself rates.

The issue with "career women" is, like I said before, that they are still concerned with status and therefore it's harder for them to find a guy at higher status than they are that actually wants a women their age (or god forbid older). If men have money and status, they are dating and marrying younger and hotter. As I said before, I see this with my gf's friends and to an extent with my gf (we didn't date for a year and went our own way for a bit, dating other people). She complained that all the guys she was attracting didn't have their shit together and I reminded her that she was 33, not 23, and that while she was still pretty attractive, her awesome big tits and ass are ten years older than what successful men her age are looking for.
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>>136844156
Four what? Dildos?
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>>136838062
>find other halves that measure up
>dusty 40+ YO women
hahaha!
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>>136845600
There is a direct 1:1 overlap on women who slept around in their 20s and women who are "fucking crazy with a bunch of baggage."

1 to fucking 1. Good job trying to separate the two to a bunch of people that know it goes hand in hand though.
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>>136845600
Youre generalizing m8.

Youre talking about men from all different social status ranks.

A 40 year old overweight pudgy middleclass dude with a decent job will be happy with a 30 year old tubro slut for sure. She however wont be.

A 40 year old fit dude with decent looks and a very good career will get a 25 year old qt easily.
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>>136845600
I rarely ever see men marrying girls who have been with multiple men. I only see them having sex with them and dating but that's it. And if the retard actually does marry her, the marriage is usually not the best.
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>>136838194
This.
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>>136838062
>Men’s relationships frequently overlap; they won’t leave one partner until they find another, so they are never really single
>"Where are all the good single men? Already married boo hoo"

roasties unable to follow through with their instincts to be roasties and steal a man. Admirable from a moral and ethical standpoint, but denying their true nature and the reality of the dating pool of their demographic. They just can't win, eh?

t. man who stopped wearing his wedding ring because it was a roastie magnet
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>>136845208
>Only men that would have these would be 70yr old's hyped up on viagra
Nah, they just go to Thailand for prostitutes instead.
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>>136839844
banging is one thing. she wants to get married. she has no way of providing children and has been on her own so long she wouldn't have any idea how to be a decent wife.

you need to find them young and make sure she has two good kids if you want to marry them.
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>>136838062
If you put numbers like these on nobody will ever roll a Milf-fu
>>136845942
Congrats, Laura is yours.
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>>136845926
I guess maybe define "slept around" then, cause what I see on here all the time is the idea that if she's fucked 3 dudes in her 20s she's a used up waste of time.

Sure, blowing (no pun intended) through a hundred guys in college is a sign of something else being wrong there, but it's pretty much a non-starter for most guys I know if she's had a fair amount of partners and in some ways a red flag if she's that old and hasn't had hardly any.
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>>136838062
>Where have all the good men gone?
They married and started a family you old fucking cunts. They're the 'bigots' and 'racists' you bitch about.
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>>136846343
*make sure she has two good parents. not kids.
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>>136846345
Was laberst du Alpenratte?
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>>136845942
But that's what I'm saying in regards to women skipping their prime marriage and babymaking years for career, then still thinking they should attract the men that want girls in their 20s that aren't sagging yet. The girl in her mid 30s whose tits are sagging, has wrinkles she didn't have before, and doesn't get drunk enough to take it in the ass anymore, naturally will need to drop her "chad needs" to be happy, but many of them don't think they should have to.
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>>136838062
Fucking LOL, These cunts don't understand that mens brains don't really work like womens brains do. What men want more than anything is a young, beautiful women in her early 20's that isn't too annoying and is fun to be around. Women want a man with a good job to take care of her and be her provider and social ally.

These women are overevaluating their dating market value based off of how well they've done in their careers/financially. Men don't date women to get money, real men make their own way and would be even embarrassed if their partner made substantially more than them. Not to mention if you want children you don't date a women older than 40.
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I work with these "sassy" ladies all the time at my work. If they get mouthy I tell em I ain't your fucking boyfriend. I am 80% sure this is why I get bad reviews
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>>136838062
MGTOW and proud
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>>136840725
I think they're thinking about older men 30+ who have a good job and their own place. They have a huge dating market, especially if they're even half-handsome.
On the other end of the spectrum 18-20 something females have an endless option of mates to choose from so a lot of them just jump from relationship to relationship or take brief breaks to fuck around and be a slut for a bit.
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>>136840725
this
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>>136846741
Women WILL NEVER DROP THEIR CHAD "NEEDS".
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>>136841414
especially in this age when divorce costs a man so much.
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If you take the half your age plus seven rule as writ, then you can date women in their 20s into your mid 40s.
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SASSY
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>>136845547

emphasis the quotes, of course.
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>>136838062
>How do we shame men back into their traditional roles?
how about womans start begin womans agin ???
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>>136838062
>be male
>graduate college
>have experience and internships
>apply for jobs
>female gets hired

Society can get fucked, desu senpai.
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>>136847840
>say that you are trangener gay muslim with jewish roots and that's offensive
thank me later
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>>136838062
>Sassy
Insolent

>Sophisticated
High maintenance

>Solvent
Too busy at work to be a good wife or mother

These women have already resigned themselves to crazy, old, lonely cat ladies, it's sad really.
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>>136846899

have fun faggot, this is literally what the jews want you to do, cause you're easily replaceable by Obongo and his 20 siblings from Nigeria.
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>>136848203
I'm going to start making exact copies of my resume with a woman's name just to tell them off when they finally call for an interview.
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>>136848346
When will you realize that you're both right? The Jews have you cornered each and every way you can see. It's a zero sum game and you're saying "Play it my way!" while he's saying "No, play it MY way!".

The problem is deep rooted and the solution not simple.
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>>136848376
don't
just use the same arguments that left uses
fight autism with autism
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>shame men back into traditional role
Yeah,men are not women you can shame and get what you want,cunt.Also,sage,because slide thread
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>>136838062
>How do we shame men back into their traditional roles?
Start by shaming women back into their traditional roles. Men will fall back into their traditional roles when they realize it's worthwhile to do so.
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>>136848888
There is no going back anon.
The train has no breaks.
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>>136838062
>46 52 54 42 48
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ALL KINGS ARE/HAVE BEEN MEN!
This is the patriarchy at work. We must change this.

As I write this very stupid 'joke' I wouldn't be surprised if the left wanted to get some tranny woman/man thing to become a king of somewhere (maybe sweden?)
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>>136838062

The best women and men find their life partners early, so unless you meet each other in your early teens, you are pretty much fucked and only have the leftovers to chose from.
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>>136846685
Never seen a roll thread?
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>>136849196
Ah yes, those long lasting teenage loves, they always work out.
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>>136838062

Women age like milk, best fresh!
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>>136849307

they arent necessarily dating at that age or crushing on each other, but will be aware of each others existence from a young age.
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>>136838062
You will never find them... You are all unfuckable.
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>>136849594
Oh right. I suppose that makes sense, then. It also means if/when you do start dating them you have an instant bond/way in
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>>136838062
I want a family... how the fuck you going to start a family with a 52 year old woman... even the 42 year old is pushing it. Figure 1 to 2 years after meeting her before you get married so then she is 44 (Autism and down syndrome factory by then).
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>>136838062
Are they claiming they can't find any men? Or that no man wants them. Because you don't start a family with someone over 40. This is why they're told to go for men nearer 60, men who are past any thoughts having a family.

The entitlement on these women, demanding relationships with men. How dare a man suggest he wants a wife young enough to have children with!

Basically these women are single because they put careers first or have a broken marriage behind, some with kids in tow, and then demand men of a particular type go out with them. For gods sake.
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>>136838062
>sassy
Found your problem. Nobody likes a lippy bitch.
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>>136847550

Wasn't he shot by a sassy woman?
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>>136848346
>sit and laugh smugly as joos have to give gibs to uneducated, unqualified, unwashed turbo-niggers who simply REFUSE to work, else they get labeled "rayciss"


Chickens coming to roost; Liberals have been trying to destroy Men and Boys since Hitler capped himself, well, they got what they wanted, young men are opting out of society by the thousands and entitled roasties are all too late realizing what a society without men means.

>growing up
>realizing your not a princess
>Prince charming will never come to your rescue
>getting a crappy job
>having to fend for yourself, PERIOD

and if you still have the balls to ask men why they aren't throwing you money, candy, flowers, and empty compliments, They'll respond thusly-

>But, Anonette, aren't you a strong independent womyn who don't need no man?

...and I think we all know the answer to that one.
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>>136838062
The fact they list being 'solvent' as one of their three priorities says it all. They don't want love, they want to be supported. Sad how open they are about that and oblivious they are to its turn-off.

If a girl tells you 'I want a man with money' you do not plan a long term relationship with them. You dump immediately or after a bit of fun. Jeeze, how dumb are they?
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>>136838692
It means they're bitchy and drink cheap wine.
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>>136838062

>Where has all the attention gone? These bitchy, snobby, used up women say they are struggling to find other halves that are interested in them

That's what the title looks like to me

Amazing how they can completely re-frame a situation to make these dumb entitled bitches seem like the victims.
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>>136838492
The man was like the physical incarnation of red pill
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>>136846221
Wedding rings are roastie magnets.
Sisterhood? Fucking kek
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