Woman fights to change the law after being told man who put camera

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Here is an interview with Gina Martin as she talks about her ordeal.

>Woman's Hour looks at the increase of upskirt photography without consent
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-40861878/woman-s-hour-looks-at-the-increase-of-upskirt-photography-without-consent

>>136835236
Special "no photograph zones" around females? What other rights over men can we give them?

>>136835236
Oh good, we need more laws which women can use to falsely accuse men of stuff.

>>136836615
It's kind a hard to fake somebody putting a camera up your skirt. Are you really that stupid?

>>136835236
>How do we protect women from camera-wielding perverts (men)?

They could just wear longer skirts...

>>136836701
>be in relationship
>girl uses boyfriends phone to take upskirt photo
>relationship breaks down
>"HE TOOK AN UPSKIRT PHOTO!"
>guy can't prove he didn't take photo

You were saying?

>>136835236
Stupid fucking cunt had no right to steal that poor man's cell phone.

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>>136836736
>They could just wear longer skirts...

Or we could teach our sons, nephews, and little brothers that it's not OK to harass women and stick cameras up their skirts or on their butts...

>>136836701
it's kinda hard to fake someone putting a dick in your vagina

>>136836701
It's kind of hard to fake having a dick rammed forcefully into your pussy against your will, but that's never stopped them. Fucking simp.

>>136836575
Fuck it let's just give them complete power over men in every aspect of their lives. It just makes sense right?

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>>136836963
Cuck

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>>136836615
>Oh good, we need more laws which women can use to falsely accuse men of stuff.

Oh, I guess we should have any laws at all then, because people can use them to falsely accuse men of stuff.

>>136836963
whare are you, gay?

>>136835236

I agree with her. The guy has access to porn and a pair of eyes.

That's just an intrusive fetish (not very hardcore one). Slap some community service on that.

>>136837314
I'm guessing you're one of those "false rape accusations are a myth" types, huh?

I remember reading about this happening with a kid. I don't like the idea of making new laws for every situation that occurs, but this does seem like something that could be included under voyeurism laws.

If something is in public you can look as much as you like, but if you have to search for the right angle so you can see something you wouldn't normally see, then it isn't public. There is a reasonable expectation of privacy for what is under clothes.

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>>136835236
Taking pictures in public is not an offense.

Women technically make their panties visible by wearing a skirt in public, if an event would happen to expose the underside of her skirt.

Since her skirt and panties exist in public, and there is a straight line of sight from the underside of her skirt to her panties, upskirt shots are technically fair game.

If she wanted to prevent her panties from being seen, she should wear pants or leggings that completely envelop her panties.

That see through dress is degenerate for starters.

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>>136837198
>>136837203
>>136837347

Need I remind you that "upskirting" is turning into an epidemic?

===

>The Season of 'Upskirt' Photo-Taking Is Upon Us, Officials Warn
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20160414/union-square/season-of-upskirt-photo-taking-is-upon-us-officials-warn

>Md. teen charged with sexual abuse in Metro ‘upskirt’ case; potentially dozens more victims
http://wtop.com/local/2017/08/md-teen-charged-sexual-abuse-metro-upskirt-case/

>Man Charged With Recording Upskirt Videos In Yarmouth
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/08/04/yarmouth-upskirt-arrest-david-wong/

>Cook jailed for taking upskirt on MRT escalator
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/cook-jailed-taking-upskirt-mrt-escalator

>Man jailed for two weeks for taking upskirt video at Kinokuniya
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-jailed-for-two-weeks-for-taking-upskirt-video-at-kinokuniya

>Pervert caught on CCTV pretending to pick up a box of Weet-Bix so he can take a photo up the skirt of a 14-year-old schoolgirl
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4740164/pervert-pretended-pick-Weet-Bix-upskirt-schoolgirl.html

>Man caught on video taking upskirt video of commuter on Circle Line MRT
http://mothership.sg/2017/07/man-caught-on-video-taking-upskirt-video-of-commuter-on-circle-line-mrt/

>>136835236
S-Serious B-business

>>136836963
Whore. Close your legs, you stink.

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>>136837548
>If she wanted to prevent her panties from being seen, she should wear pants or leggings that completely envelop her panties.

Victim-blaming.

I guess if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.

I guess if you don't want your home to get burglarized, you shouldn't never own a home.

>>136835236
>Woman doesn't actually care about the law
>Wants revenge
>Is ignorant of ex post facto laws
Part of me hopes she succeeds simply so she will find out that the guy who took the photos won't get in trouble.

>>136835236
BBBRRAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPP

*flies buzzing*

BBBRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPP

>>136837548
>If she wanted to prevent her panties from being seen, she should wear pants or leggings that completely envelop her panties.

That's Saudi Arabian tier logic

>>136835236
99.99999999% of women and girls never wear skirts anymore, instead its boy jeans and shorts, how is this a problem in 2017?

This shit better get thrown out, and the judge better tell her to stop making it easy for perverts and to dress like a respectable human being rather than a shameless whore.

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>>136838715
>how is this a problem in 2017

>Upskirt season: Warnings issues over creepy cameras as springtime hits the Big Apple
https://www.rt.com/usa/339771-newyork-upskirters-warning-da/

>Teacher: I was an upskirt victim of my students
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/teacher-i-was-upskirt-victim-my-students

>IT technician found with millions of upskirt pics
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/section-news.php?id=177270

>Police Seek Dozens Of Upskirt Cellphone Video Victims In Inland Empire
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/03/22/police-seek-dozens-of-upskirt-victims-in-inland-empire/

>Milwaukee Man Will Have to Pay Fine for Taking Upskirt Pictures
http://www.cbs58.com/story/35071495/milwaukee-man-will-have-to-pay-fine-for-taking-upskirt-pictures

>Man nabbed in Malaysia for taking upskirt video with 'shoe camera'
http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/man-nabbed-in-malaysia-for-taking-upskirt-video-with-shoe-camera

>Former Sea-Tac TSA agent pleads guilty to 'upskirt' voyeurism charge
http://komonews.com/news/local/sea-tac-tsa-agent-pleads-guilty-to-upskirt-voyeurism-charge

>Greenwich 'TubePerve' who filmed over 100 upskirt shots on London Underground spared jail
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/15187229.Greenwich__TubePerve__who_filmed_over_100_upskirt_shots_on_London_Underground_spared_jail/

>Man jailed for upskirt videos and photos taken at overhead bridge near his Tampines home
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-jailed-for-upskirt-videos-and-photos-taken-at-overhead-bridge-near-his

>>136837648
And your point is?

>>136836736
Came here to post this. Don't dress like a slut

>>136835236

>skirts

I live in Los Angeles and every woman wears a romper now. They're kind of hot in a way, but the realization that there's no way you're going to catch an upskirt is a buzzkill.

>>136835236
And this, gentlemen, is why big government is bad.

>>136838543
Nah that is just logic. If I do not want people looking through my windoe then I close the blinds.

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>>136838929
>And your point is?

Women need to be protected from creepers.

This could of been your mom/aunt/sister/daughter/cousin/wife/girlfriend/neighbor/best-friend being creeped on by some creepy creeper making a creep vid.

>>136839379
And your point is?

>>136838861
>most of the links are stories outside the US.

>1 from inland empire

>police seek victims wearing skirts

>police still unsure they don't wear skirts or if they do wear skirts in 2017, hmm....

nobody wears skirts bro, this issue is beyond laughable.

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>>136839455

Your attitude wouldn't be so apathetic and nonchalant if your daughter came home, tears streaming down her face, and when you ask her what's wrong, she yells you she caught some pervert filming her.

>>136839379
i dont know who made her dress like that, but he should be in jail, thats horrible

>>136838395
believe it or not, there are self defence classes that give you better control over whether or not you're being mugged

Also, security systems, dogs, fences

>>136835236
>can't own knife
>can't have mean thoughts about Muslims
>CAN upskirt film a woman's cunt
>CAN kill a girl and put her in kebab
Has this whole UK thing gone on for a little too long?

>>136839681
And your point is?

>>136839625
I know a lot of people who wear skirts.
They're not mini skirts though

>>136839681
I'd happily beat his ass for that, but I wouldn't want the police to step in and shove their fucking noses in it.

Take some personal responsibility and stop relying on government regulation to stop every goddamn thing.

>>136835236
>nobody actually watched the webm
This wasn't an up skirt. She was just wearing a whorish dress that was see through. Serves this whore right

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>>136840379
i love that see through lacey shit

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>>136838395
>I guess if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.
That won't stop you getting mugged, but it will stop anybody being able to steal your money. Simple logical fact.
>I guess if you don't want your home to get burglarized, you shouldn't never own a home.
Correct. Simple logical fact.
>If she wanted to prevent her panties from being seen, she should wear pants or leggings that completely envelop her panties.
Simple logical fact.

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>>136840218
>Take some personal responsibility and stop relying on government regulation to stop every goddamn thing.

Take some personal responsibility. Stop trying to get the government to curb immigration because "They're taking our jobs!". Instead, take some personal responsibility, update your skills and job training, so you can out-compete those "dirty browns" and secure jobs without the help of Trump.

>>136839681
i would call a family meeting and stone her to death for bringing shame upon the family.

>>136840690
>out-compete those "dirty browns"
Now I see what your points is: you're a retard.

>>136840690
If by out-compete you mean shoot them en-mass as they try to illegally enter, then yes.

It's not illegal to film in public, she can collect votes all she wants but the government would have to violate fundamental rights.

>>136837648
AFAIK nobody did an upskirting to me or to every other anon in this bread and in every other thread you've opened. I think all these creepshots are false flags filmed by females themselves

>>136835236
No expectation of privacy in a public place.
Maybe you don't want outskirts wear some petticoats.

>>136839379
Noone in in my family or circles of friends nor my girl friend dresses like a degenerate.

>>136840379
The only time I'd let my wife wear that (or anything along those lines) would be in private.

>>136841108
>It's not illegal to film in public, she can collect votes all she wants but the government would have to violate fundamental rights.
>the governmen
>violate fundamental rights

Well, this is the UK we're talking about...

>>136835236
If women don't want to be filmed or photographed, they can stop wearing sexy see through clothing. Women can't stand if some ugly guy photographs them.

>>136840690
>Stop trying to get the government to curb immigration

Stop trying to put illigal aliens in the same group as actual immigrants you fuck wit moron. Go read a god damn dictionary.

Should have been classed as voyeurism laws or harassment.

However the dumb slut roastie's "I was sobbing my eyes out" "literally shaking", "scared for days" attention seeking bollocks = she can fuck off.

In the end the guy got a flash of her panties, she probably shows more on facebook.

>>136838395
As long as humans continue to exist there will always be natural evils be it the weakness of a man's hearts or the environment around him. To absolve yourself of the responsibility of your own safety and place it onto others you neither know or trust is nothing short of mental illness.

>>136838395
An apt analogy would be, if you want your home more secured, lock the door.

>>136841460
>be liberal woman
>wear revealing clothes in public
>bitch and moan when someone looks at you or takes a picture

>Creeps at /gif/ are mad

serves those degenerates right

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>>136835236
Women need to stop dress like whores and return to Christ.

I missed this thread great to have you back

>>136841805
dressing*

Wait, why exactly is it not allowed to take pictures in public, when everyone is spied on 24/7 and recorded in full video anyway?

>>136837314
>She

>>136835236
>Creep takes an upskirt photo of woman
>Gets a picture of a balls

Traps will put an end to this epidemic

>>136836963
we are closer to teaching our sons, nephews and little brothers, that it's OK to wear skirts.

>>136835236
Wear panties.
Problem solved.

>run around half naked with your pussy hanging out
>mad when someone can see it
>rather than dress conservatively, demand special treatment laws
Women logic.

>>136841931
This is exactly why her efforts will end up fruitless, I think the angle she is trying to push it is that it is implied sexual harassment.

>>136838395
>I guess if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.
More like don't go into bad areas and don't flaunt or even give a hint that you have money. When someone goes into the hood and gets their watch and wallet stolen by a nigger, I don't just blame the thief, I also blame the victim for being a fucking idiot and putting himself in a dumb situation. "Victimization" is not an excuse for dumb decision making, only an excuse to punish someone else.

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>>136841007
>they try to illegally enter

This isn't just about those "dirty illegals". This is also about H-1B visa workers. You (white conservatives) have been complaining very loudly about them for years because you don't want to compete with them. You feel that as a American white male, it's your birthright to given consideration first for American jobs and only when no white man wants the jobs, then "dirty browns" can be considered for the positions.

>>136835236
Just nuke white women

>>136842123
Read the article, she did wear panties.

The only thing he got was a flash of her panties in the picture, even the police admitted you couldn't really see anything.

Sure he was a dumb arsehole for literally shoving a camera under her skirt and taking a pic (if her account is even true).

However her reaction was way overboard. It's like the bikini, no problem! Underwear, omg! pics. She probably shows a LOT more on facebook no problem.

Yes I wouldn't want some random dude shoving a camera up my daughter's skirt without getting prosecuted under voyeurism or harassment laws, (but then again my daughter wouldn't be in a degenerate miniskirt anyway..) but still, the reaction has to be proportional.

"I was sobbing my eyes out, I couldn't dance, I was stood there scared" (after she'd already got away from him, after stealing his phone..).

Law loophole, should be sorted, but no need for overboard attention seeking reaction.

>>136837648
hnnnng.
came in for the bland upskirt, got diamonds for that side boob.

>>136842251
>men shoulder
>flat ass
Ewww

>>136836963
>it's not OK to harrass women
It's also not OK to be such a spineless little faggot, yet you're still here.

>>136838395
I feel defended after watching that

>>136836701
literally kys

>>136840690
God you're an idiot. They don't care about who's capable. They care about halving to pay them less while at the same time filling their diversity quotas.

>>136838395
>I guess if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.

How nieve are liberals? You bitch about guns then go off and say stupid shit like this.

>>136842467
>>Yes I wouldn't want some random dude shoving a camera up my daughter's skirt without getting prosecuted under voyeurism or harassment laws
Why? You accept it every time you pass in front of a government building that has external scanners, or when you enter one (or a bank, or when you fly).

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>>136835236
>letting a person grab your belongings
>not decking the thief as soon as the theft happens
>letting someone else handle your property

>>136836963
post tits, you gash

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>>136841805
Pretty much this...

>I have my ass out in public
>dont look at it or you'll be jailed

Good luck getting that through congress

I was expecting a lot more ass when I came into this thread, but upskirt shots is invasion

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>>136838395
If I didn't want to get mugged I wouldn't walk into some shithole area.
If I didn't want to get burgled I would lock my doors and windows.
I thought you might be a baiter, but I think you really are some brain dead liberal. They're the only people who make such ridiculous claims to the extent you have and trolls struggle to pick up on them properly. It's like when an adult tries to write in childish handwriting, they can't quite pull it off because it's too forced. When a child does it it looks completely naturally, just like you and your far end spectrum examples.

>If you don't want to get a migraine just chop your head off
>If you don't like being cold just set yourself on fire

Etc etc etc.

>>136841718

>sticking a camera up a skirt is the same as taking a photo

at least we can take solace that trumpcucks like you cant get hard to fuck women and spread your inferior genes

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>>136839681
>when you ask her what's wrong, she yells you she caught some pervert filming her.

... and then you added it to your private collection of fap webm that you keep organized by filename and always at hand for these threads?

I'm not even mad. I'm kind of impress /pol/ is too autismo to realize you're some sort of fetishist who gets off on this, yet you still manage to trawl 300 (you)s from it every time you do it. Many such cases.

>>136835236
>For centuries men have made women wear long skirts for modesty.
>Modern era comes along with all kinds of new ways to make the modest immodest.
>Instead of wearing trousers whores decide to wear even shorter skirts.
If you wear a short skirt then you should expect whatever slutty underwear you've got on to be in the public domain. Modesty is a choice that is based on the items you wear.

>Women taking responsibility for their actions.

>>136836736
Why do we hate shitskins and Islam, again?

>>136843643
>If I didn't want to get mugged I wouldn't walk into some shithole area.
>If I didn't want to get burgled I would lock my doors and windows.

t. Liverpool

>>136836963

>Or we could teach our sons, nephews, and little brothers that it's not OK to harass women and stick cameras up their skirts or on their butts...

Found the roastie.

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>>136841805
Her cleavage is still too deep. And that loose hair is absolutely haram. Pic related is acceptable.

>>136842806
> They care about halving to pay them less while at the same time filling their diversity quotas.

Then work for even less, duh. What are you, fucking commie, expecting free businessmen to give you gibs?

>>136841844
french pls

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White women were a mistake.

>>136844028
What a fucking whore.

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>>136843450
>>I have my ass out in public
>>dont film it like a pervert or you'll be jailed

Seems reasonable.

>>136842881
CCTV doesn't fucking extend cameras on tentacles to sneak itself down my pants or under women's skirts now does it. WTF do you think this is, Japan?

When you wear clothes you have a reasonable expectation that what's under them isn't on show. Talking about non-degenerate ones here.

Besides the dude 'apparently' shoved it under her skirt and snapped a pic in full view, wasn't even the creepy lil jap sneaky underskirt shot ones.

Either way again, her reaction was way overboard either way.

>>136839000
>I live in Los Angeles and every woman wears a romper now

I fucking hate this shit. Makes them look like adult babies.

Why are upskirts so hot though? Like a girl that I wouldn't wanna fuck, wouldn't even say was very attractive, but if she has a short skirt on and I see up it, my dick goes to diamonds.

Also is it considered really pervy to look at girls when their underwear is showing? Or only to take pictures of it?

>>136836701
>be around women
>using your phone to listen to music
>trying to change song
>slut doesn't like the way you looked at her
>claim you were trying to take pictures of her
I see no way this will be abused

>>136844028
elbow slut

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>>136844198
This is the example of good, chaste dressing.

Though the whore still has her eyes uncovered.

>>136844028
>Wearing a rag with four holes and two sleeves stitched on.

>>136844376
ya this. bitches got the right to vote.. and that was going to far.

if women don't want me snapping photos of their buttholes then they should stop flaunting their buttholes for the entire world to see.

i don't want people to see my dick. so i don't flaunt it. its embarrassing to look at to begin with.

Stop arguing and post more creep shots you fucking faggots.

>>136835236
how about you just change your clothes then?

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>>136844028
My bb's hair is fine and she always wears an under shirt to raise the cleavage line.

An undershirt I dream of smelling.

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>>136844599

Would this make pantsing illegal as well? Would playground children become sex offenders?

>>136840690
are you fucking retarded? government is responsible for immigration policy and a bad policy is a direct impediment to their constituents. that's in no way comparable to sluts dressing like sluts in public then complaining that people have observed them dressing like sluts

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>>136844599
This guy's got his priorities straight.

>>136844372
Outdoors night vision/thermal cameras already reveal your entire nude body just fine, they don't even have to have TSA-like scanners (which they do when you enter a building). Spy satellites, drones, and blimps do the same thing.

>>136844400
This, sleeves should reach the wrists, hem of the dress should rest on the shoes and the neck line should not fall below the neck.

>>136844351
Stop victim-blaming you fucking shitlord. These women are sexually assaulting everyone that sees them in public when they're revealing themselves like that. These men are heroes defending the little people from these molesting rapists and you're sitting here calling them "creepers"? Give me a fucking break you asshole. These sexual predators need to be stopped in their tracks and men like this are trying to stop them.

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>>136844826

>>136844351
You can literally film whatever you want out in public mate. Not even the UK is draconian as that. That is some North Korean tier shit.

If a girl decides to wear nothing but her bra and nickers or if she decides to wear a beekeeper outfit it does not matter, if she or any other person is out in public it is perfectly legal to film them. The law cannot changed based on what clothes one decides to wear.

That said there is obviously a difference between shoving a camera up a girl's skirt and covertly filming a hot girl in public. Either one is poor form and may lead to get your head kicked in, but the former is obviously more intrusive and aggressive.

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>>136845110
yeah kinda hard to play the victim card when you go outside in public like pic related.

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>>136845130

>>136843649
I'm a woman you dipshit.

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>>136835236

Then don't walk around with a skirt to show your legs, ass thot.

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>>136845271

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>>136845443
Cool, want a fucking medal?

Only Christian virgin's get medals.

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>/pol/ literally arguing that it's fine to purposefully take secret upskirt pictures of ladies you don't know without their permission and that it shouldn't be against the law at all

>>136845667
>didn't bother reading initials post

Kys

>people itt actually defending being a fucking pervert

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>>136845682
>"sm-smash degeneracy!11 white power!"
>"whaddaya mean it's wrong to take creepshots?"
>"whaddaya mean jacking off to anime children is wrong? are you a fag?"

>>136845682

If some empowered slut walks in public with a short skirt showing her ass etc. It's her fault if people notice and take pictures.

They dress like a slut and then demand to be treated like a lady lol.

>>136844826
Hnnngh.

>>136838395
>if you don't want to get mugged, you should just never carry money.
that's exactly what I do, retard

>>136845682
Why should it? The whores could put some pants on if they want it to stop

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>>136845625
plz don't take a photo of me! even though i'm flaunting my entire ass in public for the world to see! stop raping me with your eyes! stop being a cis male! reeeeee don't find me attractive!

God bless the upskirters.

>>136843729
This.
I've seen these threads before
OP is mastertroll, but teases us with no panty shots

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>>136845804
Whatever roastie.

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>>136846081

>>136845978
>simple knee length skirt
>it's the slut's fault if some guy holds a camera close to the ground and takes an upskirt in a crowd

>>136846039
I can't wait to grind up against you in a crowd with my fat homo cock. If you don't want it to happen you shouldn't wear those ass-hugging jeans!

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>>136846254
>i'm just outside in a bikini one size to small flaunting my ass and my fat rolls! i'm not trying to get attention or the like! just trying to make money to buy baby formula. so stop looking at me!

>>136842251
>shoulder=1.5(hip)
fucking ew dude

>>136846405
Nice false equivalence faggot kys

>>136846644
How is it a false equivalence mate? I'm just asserting myself onto something I find attractive, if you don't want my homo dick against that tight ass just wear some unflattering khakis instead.

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>>136846482
i have pantyhose on! that means i'm trying to cover up! even though their completely see through and you can see my ass hanging out of my purposeful cut off shorts! stop raping me with your thoughts! i'm not asking for attention!

The women who are "vulnerable" to upskirting deserve jail time, if anything.
They are literally raping everyone who looks at them.
I don't want to see their never-regions. I don't want to see their ass or cleavage or whatever. These are sexual things, and by displaying them so publicly they are forcing on me an image of their sexual assets.

God speed to the men who upskirt these deviants. They are dark knights.

>>136846644
>anything that proves my hypocrisy is a false equivalency
spoken like a true weirdo who looks under random womens skirts

>>136846723
How is taking a picture of someone the same as sexually assaulting them? Fucking kill yourself retard

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>>136846726
>what you mean wearing a mini skirt in a high wind area is a bad idea? stop being misogynist!

>>136836963
you know you have been on Pol too long, when you expect the camera to zoom up on that body and reveal a mans face

>>136845682
/pol/ becomes especially cringeworthy with any topic that deals with women. As much as /pol rails against degeneracy most the people on here are degenerate antisocial faggots and threads like this prove that.

>>136847062
Except it doesn't stupid nigger

>>136847145
All those lying bitches are just asking for it after all, right? Same as you.

perfectly legal in Texas

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2014/09/19/texas-court-ban-on-upskirt-photos-violates-first-amendment/

>>136838395
>Victim-blaming.
No, it's called preparing for eventualities.

Believe it or not, it's not the responsibility of society to protect you from everything.

It's your responsibility. If you don't want something to happen, prepare measures to prevent it happening (or that would make the outcomes lessened).

For someone that hates upskirt videos and photos you seem to collect an absurd amount of them.

>>136845625
gross...

>>136836963
this is good bait, enjoy your (You)s

>>136847621
Lying bitches? Lol wtf stop projecting you fucking homo

Women need more laws to protect women so they dont have to protect themselves or have responsibility

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>>136835236
How is this not a felony? I'm not into feminist shit but it's pretty clear that if men are taking upskirt pictures, it's vastly different than taking them like this one >>136844351 where you aren't sticking up a camera between someone's legs

It's similar to spying naked people with drones, you can go to jail even if you're not flying directly over someone's property

Seems like poltard manbabbys just want to make women mad rather than sticking to facts and reason

>>136848625
>spying or taking photography into their private property is a crime you retard. It's completely different.

If I take a photo in a park you have no grounds do do anything about it. Also, we can reverse this logic. What if I walked around saying women who wear such revealing clothes are actually sexually harassing men by triggering physical hormonal reactions due to the lewd clothing?

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Is there a difference between upskirt (something not on public display) and just general filming of something in public view?

>chick lives in London
99% chance the guy got off because he was muslim and they didn't want a riot on their hands

>>136847418
HAHAHAHA

>>136835236

Here's an idea, don't wear short skirts. Wear the long ones or long dresses. If that's still too risky for you, wear jeans/pants/shorts. Ya fucktards.

Preventing people from filming in public is one of the worst offenses a government can do towards becoming tyrannical.

>>136848205
Or maybe it's just common sense laws that any civilized society should have like not allowing men to sexually violate or harass women. Pervs are going to perv but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be illegal and discouraged. Murder, rape, and theft will also always exist in society so should we get rid of laws banning those behaviors? Should we instead just blame the victim for becoming a victim instead of punishing the criminal?

>>136848983
I'm not talking about taking pictures of people in a park using a drone, retard

I'm talking about situations where you spy on your naked neighbors with a drone even if you're not flying over their property, it's a similar situation to putting a camera between someone's legs

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>>136849546

the neighbours were not in a public space

>>136849450
It's not preventing people from filming, it's preventing perverts from sticking cameras up women's skirts you retard.

>>136839681
COTTAGE CHEESE

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>>136842467
>It's like the bikini, no problem! Underwear, omg!
This. Such bullshit. If they want to protect women, start by getting rid of all the migrants.

>>136849790
So, basically, I can take close up shots of your gf's tits, ass, and crotch, and she has to comply or leave because she's in a public space?

Nice

>>136850147
walk into public and dont want your photo taken? then dont walk into public. simple logic

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>>136850147
>>136850147

yes thats what the law is
chagning it opens up a can of worms

>>136850303
OK, I see where you're going, just answer the question I'm posting

If you're out in a public space with your gf that means I can take close up shots of her ass, crotch, and tits as much as I like and you won't protest because you're in a public space

If you initiate a fight or try to push me away you're clearly in the wrong because we're in a public space, and I'm entitled to photographing your gfs crotch from below

Right?

>>136850049
HAHA what game is this?

>>136850147

Uh from that picture, it's in plain view.

>>136839379
>Women need to be protected

Wrong century my friend. There was a deal between the sexes for millennia. This deal is broken now.

Fuck those bitches.

Also, filming someones crotch does no harm to the person. Except their crotch is so well known in town they can be identified by it.

>>136836883
It will happen

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>>136836963
>Or we could teach our sons, nephews, and little brothers

I'm not a fucking Saracen myself. How about we try banning them first. What you think whites are doing this?
>Londonistan

Don't see anything wrong with what she's doing. What's with all the spergs here?

>>136850765
I never said anything about that specific video, I'm talking about women who wear normal skirts, autismo.

>>136849494
Who is the victim here? If you are worried about guys taking photos of your ass, stop wearing short skirts. Any kind of responsibility on women is being turned to the state. The state has become the protector and provider for women.

>>136845682
>Some bitch with more power

Let me know how that works out

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>>136835236
WHAT IS THE APPEAL OF THE SKIRT, WOMEN?

I'll TELL YOU

THE APPEAL IS THE IDEA THAT WE CAN FLIP YOU OVER AND YOUR REPRODUCTIVE BITS ARE READY TO FUCK

STOP DEGRADING YOURSELVES. WEAR PANTS.

ON THE OTHER HAND
LOWER TEMPERATURES FOR A MANS BALLS INCREASE SPERM AND TESTOSTERONE PRODUCTION IN MEN, AND MAN BITS NEED MORE SPACE

MEN SHOULD BE WEARING SKIRTS, WOMEN SHOULD WEAR PANTS (or long dresses/robes)

COMMON SENSE REALITY
COMMON SENSE WORLD

What is the point of short skirts if people can't look up them? If they did not want it visible then they should cover themselves properly.

>Already have 101 laws on the books relating to nit picky things
>Taking photographs in public places

Wear a longer skirt kuffar

>>136851074
Dresses are comfy as fuck.

>>136835236
>How do we protect women from camera-wielding perverts
I heard there was a new invention called "pants" that prevents upskirting.

>>136850729
I'd like to know as well
>>136850049
What game is this?

>>136850632
So, you basically agree with this post >>136850658 ?

You'd just let me take pictures of your gf's crotch home so that I can masturbate to them and spread them all over the net

>>136850658
>entitled
dumb beaner doesnt know the meaning to words he uses.

>>136851024

If it can be seen in plain view or could be seen in plain view, how is that a problem retardo?

What next? Taking pictures of womens feet will be illegal cause it's a fetish? Then taking pics of womens faces is a fetish too!! inb4 slippery slope when government is a walking slippery slope of power grabbing.

>>136850658
>If you're out in a public space with your gf that means I can take close up shots of her ass, crotch, and tits as much as I like and you won't protest because you're in a public space

There is no law against it, but it is very intrusive and you'd likely get a smack. Same as if you were to say rude things or carry out some other type of rude behaviour. There is no law for example against calling someone a name but if you do it you may face repercussions

Does anyone have the link to the Youtube channel of the guy who just walks up to people in public and films them without saying a word. Obviously the people tell him to fuck off and some people try to fight him, but he is only breaking accepted social conduct, not the law..

>>136851532

SurveillanceMan?

>>136851532

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzysxHGZCAU&t=1s

>>136851532
he is breaking the law. disturbing the peace. only it could be considered harassment if he is told to stop. dumb britcuck.

>>136851074
The culture of women wearing skirts is due to tampons being a modern invention. Women would wear skirts and dresses as trousers may have gotten too dirty with menstruation.

>>136851397
Explain how I'm the word incorrectly, dumb stormnigger.

People have a right to record in public = people are entitled to record in public.

Jesus, Americans are brain dead.

>>136851454
>if it can be seen in plain view
But that's the point you fucking retard, if you have to put up a camera between someone's legs to photograph a crotch it's clearly not in 'plain view', I said there was a difference between recording women publicly and sticking up cameras between their legs.

>>136851532
>you'd likely get a smack
So I can put you or your GF in jail for preventing me from recording your gfs crotch in a public space?

Nice!

>>136849938
Then don't wear slutty clothes in public. Instead of going after guys who are just horny as hell we should be going after women who have zero self control

>>136851731
hahahahahahahaha

>>136851887
Logic?

In my pervs thread?

>>136851731
>>136851625
Awesome cheers lads

>>136851747
>999 yes I have an emergency there is a man disturbing the peace!! Send the riots vans!!!

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>>136851308

do you think all public photography should require consent of the people in it?
so no crowd pictures, then?

is this picture acceptable or not, because it has a girl's cleavage it?

>>136851074

>Scotland

>>136839379
>Cosplaying a trap
That thing better have a dick on it.

>>136852005
>So I can put you or your GF in jail for preventing me from recording your gfs crotch in a public space?

>implying the police would investigate you getting twated in the face for being acting like a retard

Have you ever been outside?

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/pol/ threads that focus on women are entertaining as fuck. it's like i'm on r9k but much worse.

>>136838395
that light is actually pretty effective in making the other blind for a moment

>>136852445
Marion is pure, don't post her in this whore thread huehue.

>>136836963
>Or we could teach our sons, nephews, and little brothers that it's not OK to harass women and stick cameras up their skirts or on their butts...

However, there will always be people who do not get the memo about living in an orderly society or who go against it.

If you want to prevent it being done to you with a 100% success rate, you MUST take action to make yourself un-upskirt filmable.

So wear a longer skirt.

>>136852005
dumb beaner. youre using the word incorrectly. please stay in mexico. we have enough dumb beans here.

>>136852313
>do you think all public photography should require consent of the people in it?
>so no crowd pictures, then?
No, I don't think all public photography should require consent.
>is this picture acceptable or not, because it has a girl's cleavage it?
It is acceptable.

What's not acceptable is putting up cameras between women's legs when they use skirts with reasonable lengths

with miniskirts you don't have to do that, so, using a miniskirt or a thong in public is basically consent.

What you're saying is that men should not protest, they should just leave if some creep comes snd starts putting cameras up your gfs crotch

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>>136836736
>They could just wear longer skirts...
Like 2 bucks on Amazon

>>136850658
>>136852313
>>136852005
You're confusing two things: the normal human way to solve these things, and the Chinese Legalism way to solve these things.

The normal human way would of course be to tell the guy to fuck off and smack him around. However, you live in Chinese Legalism and this results in you being arrested, etc. There is no normal human contact without an intermediary anymore.

Since the system is as it is, similar to Chinese Legalism, you either have to accept living in it, or fight to change the laws, and I would suggest starting with the spy sattelites, drones, CCTV, thermal/soundwave/etc. imaging and things that are done to you "from above", not "from below" (i.e. by people higher than you on the hierarchical pyramid, not your peers - the common people, since you should be able to settle this with them directly).

>>136852689
>you're doing it wrong
>doesn't explain why it's wrong
>Let me pretend I'm trolling so that I don't look like the mouthbreather I really am XD

>>136852402
I have you or your gf on video smacking me, I was just trying to get a nice shot of your gfs crotch until you chilled out in a holy public space

You're clearly in the wrong here

sometimes when i'm out and i see a pretty girl showing off her body/tits in tight clothes i just want to make her pay for making me feel like i do. who is she to stir up these feelings and then know i will nevr have a chance with her? what makes her feel so safe? does she think the police will save her? does she think they will be fast enough to stop what i will do? the best orgasm I had while masturbating... I imagined the girl choking on my dick.. literally face getting blue, her puke pouring out around my dick and then I held her head down and locked my legs around her head. then after she was done I made her lick her own puke off my dick and genitals and also lick it off the floor. I sometimes think about the absolute worst way to torture someone and it would have to be putting someone in a dark room tied to a chair and injecting LSD into their blood every 8 hours and keeping them alive by feeding them through a tube and allowing them a few hours of sleep every second day. The wall they would be facing would actually be a giant screen which fades into the darkness and on the screen, some un-earth like horrid dark landscape would constantly be playing so the victim would actually believe they were in the landscape projected on the screen. There would be speakers hidden in the darkness playing fucked up sounds and sometimes lyric-less industrial music would play for hours on end. On the screen, grim reaper like creatures are to walk around and occasionally look at the victim. Sometimes a real life person dressed as one of those grim reapers would carefully appear then proceed to toward the victim and start cutting her and inflicting physical pain. After about half a year of this, I would have two actors dressed up as the victims parents, they would slowly emerge from the landscape, the victim would start to mumer ''m--mom ? d-d-da dad?'' and the actors would slowly walk toward the victim. The victim would begin crying and enter a state of deep psychic pain.

>>136835236
Yeah I'm basically done with civilization

>>136852603
she's a nigger under /pol/'s white criteria.
look aat those brown eyes.

>>136850632
Where can I buy one of these for my qt3.14?

>>136845978
Yet this instance isn't about that is it.

If her account is to be believed (year, I know, I'm sceptical based on how much she hyped it up aftweards..) she was talking to a dude, being a gig slut, and he shoved his phone up her skirt and took a picture.

NOT that she was walking around with her arse hanging out like in all these pics. I presume she also wasn't in a skirt short enough (probably still TOO short) that you could see her undies already, as he'd not have to put his phone UP there otherwise.

He also did it right infront of her, not creepily taking one and sneaking off. This is like someone shoving their phone down your pants.

Either way it's wrong, BUT she did overreact massively. Getting a glimpse of panties is not the end of the world. The act of shoving your phone in / under someone's clothes specifically to take a snap of them is weird though and should be treated accordingly.

>>136852931
>I have you or your gf on video smacking me, I was just trying to get a nice shot of your gfs crotch until you chilled out in a holy public space
>You're clearly in the wrong here

Kek okay mate show police that video and let me know how far you get

>>136836963
You could start being a better man yourself and stop posting these videos. It shows how you really feel about women by having these you pervert. :^)

Learn some respect.

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>>136840039
>And your point is?

Fucking lost it. Thx

>>136852791
>sticking cameras between people's legs in public spaces
>normal human interaction
Seems like the confused person here is you, cuck

>>136835236
This is the country that lets child rape gangs run free.

>>136853003
nothing better than cumming down a choking sluts throat. youre not wrong anon. Trick is once you start jizzing you hold her head down, when she gags she will recoil but hold that fucker down there and let her choke on your seed.

>>136853196
Police do prosecute physical attacks, and according to your own creep logic, there is nothing wrong with putting cameras up people's crotch, so, the only criminal here is you.

>>136836963
Teach not to rape rethoric KYS

at least do it properly with a snake camera is your shoe.

>>136853215
>t.roastie

>>136838395
No you should not leave the door to your house open you fucking mong. Also yeah the mugged thing is accurate. Why carry money in a bad neighborhood? Testing niggers virtue?

>>136835236
>after being told man who put camera up her skirt did nothing wrong

They use this kind of language to deliberately incense people.
No one said he didn't do anything wrong but women will read that and remember it, stoking the hatred of men in their black harpies hearts.

>>136851297
VRKanojo

>>136851747
>>136852062
>>999 yes I have an emergency there is a man disturbing my peaceful muslim prayer!! Send the riots vans!!!
ftfy

>Implying this wouldn't work in Britain

>>136835440
This man is a hero.

>>136852786
Yeah, because nobody's going to see you snuke-inspect her snatch, you dumb shit.

>>136840690
What country was this chick in?

>>136853242
It isn't, but how can you legislate against it, as someone else in the thread, literally legislating a magical space around women where no photography can be taken, you wouldn't be able to take photos in a crowd anymore, you could take a picture of your gf then you break up and she tells the police you invaded her magic photography space, etc

You don't need fucking laws to legislate certain things. It is just common fucking sense not to do it. It is called not having fucking autism.

If you honestly think this is a rl scenario

>girl out in public with
>some guy invades her personal space and starts taking pics up her skirt
>she tells him to fuck off
>other members of the public intervene and attacked the dude/steal his phone
>perv man goes to find a police officer
>police officer gets all his mates and they find all of the people who attacked the man and stole his phone in the perv incident
>arrest all of them in early morning raids on their properties and send them to jali
>rerieve perv man's phone
>perv man invites local Law Enforcement agencies to his house to fap to upskirt video together

Then you have bigger fucking things to worry about than British public photography law.

>>136853180

>If her account is to be believed (year, I know, I'm sceptical based on how much she hyped it up aftweards..) she was talking to a dude, being a gig slut, and he shoved his phone up her skirt and took a picture.

I am talking about In-general. If some chick dresses like a slut, she should be treated like one. Take pictures is free when its not done in a forceful way.

>>136853242
Please reread my post.

i dont' even have one of these stupid phones so I don't even give a flying fuck.

>>136836963
Yes, surely dressing like whores has no negative consequences.

By the way, if this is what normal women wear, what do whores wear to stand out?

>>136853003
*knock* *knock*

Doesn't this come under harassment or invasion of privacy? You might be in a public place but the fact you're wearing clothes is a sign you're covering parts of your body up.

It's fine to take normal photos of people, but putting them under women's skirts? Come on, FFS.

If anyone does that to my gf when I'm with her I'll lamp them. And I'll stand up in court and say the perv had it coming.

>>136853423
>Police do prosecute physical attacks,

Yes but very unlikely in the circumstances we are describing. You'd probably have to seek a private prosecution. You do understand police officers are not automatons right?

>>136838861
is it also going to be illegal to take a movie framed of just a womens ass in the tightest leggings imaginable ??

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>>136853003
wew

>>136850049
Wew, now this is comedy.

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>>136842251
It's my birthright to not have to live in multiculturalism,
It's my birth right to have or find and make a home for my people that we can live in homogeneously
It's my birthright to violently and painfully murder thieves

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>>136844372
your government not only knows your dicks size, but I am sure they have all already had their laughs about it. you need to accept you live in 1984 and either do something about, or sit down and shut the fuck up, and eat your soma like a good little goy.

People came here for the upskirt webm, you're not going to get a balanced debate

>>136844826
> perfectly normal

>>136854268
Depends, I would say. A normal judge would probably see this as a violation of private space because he's clearly not filming public but her ass explicitly. The point is not about existing laws which she could use but the fact that this whore is trying to create some extra privilege 'guilty until proven innocent' type of shit.

>>136836701
Roastie detected

>>136849790
what is this supposed to be covering ?

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>>136845358
nigga, you gay?
oh wait, just british, maybe this is more your speed.

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>This thread
Now you've done it, thanks for making me fap again.

>>136855297
NO FAP
fight the degeneracy
don't let it rewire your brain

>>136839681
i am 100% sure that i would tell thats what she gets for dressing like a hooker and public and that i hope she learned a lesson.

>>136843765

It's ok to harass women when we do it.

>>136835236
>>136843396
We need white sharia.

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>>136855297
>>>/e/

>>136838861
>>136837648
>>136844826

POST MORE

>>136839681
gross cottage cheese legs, plz delete.

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>>136844028
stop the degeneracy.

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>>136852005
the fact of having a right to something.
"full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered"
synonyms: right, prerogative, claim; More
the amount to which a person has a right.
"annual leave entitlement"
synonyms: right, prerogative, claim; More
the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
"no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement"

here you go you dumb fucking nigger, you're not entitled to take a fucking picture, that means that its accepted social conduct that the law specifically has an exception for allowing you to behave in this way, it might not be illegal in some states but I guarantee this breaks the social code of conduct which police also have to adhere to in most cases, so if someone punched you in the fucking face for doing this, don't expect to get anything but laughed at by the popo, now remember, dictionaries are free online now retard.

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What a whore!

>>136840035
It hasn't even begun.

>>136839379
>Women need to be protected from creepers.
are you saying women are delicate incapable creatures that can not defend themselves from weebs with a smart phone?

You some sort of sexist bigot?

>>136842251
So what?

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>>136856337
>whore
She is in the sheets, thus her appearance in public.

Just thinking out loud, plenty of those girls have amazing bodies and would prolly be raped if not for wearing those sheets in public

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>>136856337
Veil off in public? Nothing a good stoning won't fix.

>>136835236
Don't go outside wearing skimpy clothing and this wouldn't be a problem.

I agree with OP
People Ok with upskirting are losers and perverts who can't hook up.
And saying "b-but ecording in public is ok", would you like to have a stranger follow you around and record you against your will ? Of course you wouldn't. It's intrusive.

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>>136850049
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>>136850049
Sauce? Looks hilarious.

>>136846405

>knee length
>can't fully cover the ass, making it over 30cm above knee length

>>136835236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMxsSj3EHIY

>>136836963
What about sticking cameras up their butts?

>>136845682
This is how Pol has always been sadly. Under some truths / facts, there lay a massive NEET network who have no empathy or compassion, just a retards desire to own the world and be king. Its sad

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>>136835236
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>>136856337

>MUST
>NOT
>FAP

>>136836963

that whore is wearing see-through clothing, whats the difference?

theres an old saying: "dont want people to treat you like a whore? dont dress like one"

>>136853003
saved

>>136835236
>women in sundresses are 10/10
>stop dressing like a whore, it's your own fault

fucking r9k angry incels wanting their white women to be raped

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>people are actually arguing over whatever
just shut up and post more roasties

>>136837648
maybe women need to wear less whorish underwear or clothing? the laws say you can photograph anything that is publicly visible. if a woman is sitting across the subway from you in a seat with her legs open showing everything, and you take a picture, is that 'upskirting'? no, and a massachussetts court agreed http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/05/us/massachusetts-upskirt-photography/index.html

>>136858071
Archived it https://unvis.it/cnn.com/2014/03/05/us/massachusetts-upskirt-photography/index.html

>>136854509
kek was allende an antisemite juden?

>>136845682
This only affects whores. Proper women don't wear yoga pants and short shorts so it won't affect them.

>>136835236
good thread

>>136858112
Norway you are the best bot. what's with the change to unvis.it from archive.is?

>>136858326
Think it is to combat some of the attempts from the clickbaiters making archive.is non-functional or whatever, just something vice said about combating "right wing extremists" attempts at discrediting them.

>>136847284
>>136857380

You roasties really think that you can dress like literal prostitutes and then have men treat you with respect? Why should anyone care if a whore is recorded in public when she is already dressing to get attention?

Not an issue if you're wearing a skirt/dress befitting a lady. WHITE SHARIA NOW

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>>136858275
Muh bad, Paco. Muh bad.

>The women being whores.
>Not responsible for their actions.
>Blame men for being "pervert"

>>136857151
see
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>>136839681
riterarry cottage cheesaru

It depends on if the image classifies as "in plain sight" or not, and whether there is an expectation of privacy.
In reality, the spying done by Google, police departments, CCTV in Britain, the NSA, etc. Is far more perverse than any upskirts done by some random citizen.
The spying above is rationalized because of "defense" and is deemed not a violation of the 4th amendment because evidence is in public and therefore "in plain sight."
Legally, to be consistent, upskirts must therefore be completely legal (as they are "in plain sight") insofar as upskirters aren't literally shoving the cameras up the skirt. At any safe distance, under current ethical standards, it is perfectly justifiable. As one cannot expect privacy in public, as ruled by the Supreme Court.

>>136856216
You are one dumb nigger, what I've posted was

>people are entitled to record in public = people have a right to record in public

What I've posted is the exact same definition as you did. People are entitled to record in public places, no one can legally punch you in the face for following some dude in a public space and recording his face.

Smelly, dumb, stormnigger scum.

>>136856956
>would you like to have a stranger follow you around and record you against your will ?
And yet here you are, posting on an imageboard that is an NSA honeypot and has Google analytics. You don't actually care about privacy, as these two orginizations are "following you around" already. Here you are complaining about minor violations of privacy, instead of rallying to fight the worse offenders.

Taking upskirts should be legal but so should beating up a guy who does it.