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"It’s official: McDonald’s says that every one of its 14,000 stores nationwide will be replacing cashiers with automated touch-screen kiosks. They’re starting with stores where minimum-wage laws mandate the highest rates, such as Florida, New York, San Francisco, Boston, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and Seattle."

https://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/economics/item/24699-mcdonald-s-response-to-15-minimum-wage-automation-in-every-store

http://archive.is/RPLFL

Why are we supporting this?

You might not like burger flippers but with automation millions of people stand to lose their jobs and risk flinging our country into another great depression.
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hahaha typical amerifats complaining about burgers :D
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Sometimes I suspect that minimum wage is a plot to use "humanitarian" justifications to force automation beyond what is economical, thereby pushing humanity towards the point where depopulation becomes imperative.
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>>136820708
Let it happen
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>>136820708
At least robots can't spit in your food.
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That's not in response to higher wages, it's a question of efficiency. Right now, cashiers also cook and prepare food. When food preparation is the only thing workers have to worry about, they can fit in more sales. It's also a lot easier to impulse purchase on a kiosk as opposed to in front of a fleshy bloodman.
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>>136820888
well then!
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Thankfully unlike the rust belt, there are no communities based on being cashiers and other low-tier labor
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>>136820708
>Get automated orders in UK.
>Barely 3 months later the printer is broken.
>Orders get delivered to whoever calls over the person bringing the food out.
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>>136820708

This is what a $15 minimum wage job looks like. Enjoy.
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>>136820708
Over in Europe it's usually 2-4 screens plus a cashier. Honestly it's far better than dealing with someone who can't take your order properly.
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I'm just glad those insufferable Fight for 15 / Bernie faggots are getting BTFO. Now they'll just start whining even harder about UBI though. Maybe that was the plan all along.
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>>136820708
the biggest problem is that automation is going to happen and the government is doing nothing to prepare for it. They continue to flood in low skilled workers who are the exact people who's jobs will be lost to automation
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>>136821046

But is the economic collapse that will occur because of this worth it so your food is prepared the way you like it?
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>>136821114
Yes, fuck poor people
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How many people are stuck working shitty cashier jobs and want to kill themselves?
This is good in the long run, those jobs are soul crushing and not real work.
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>>136820708

Good, fucking Democrat voters deserve to starve and die.
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>>136820828
OMG WE NEED BASIC INCOME

>Three generations later, 90% of people have no skills that could potentially lead to their betterment and advancement
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>>136820708
That's what faggots get for demanding 15 an hour in a unrealistic amount of time. Should have went for 10; though it wouldn't matter since this was going to happen no matter what.
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>>136820708
Thank God. I'm sick and tired of these fucking Mexicans who can't speak English fucking up my order.
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>>136820708
Live in NY. Burger flippers are majority retarded negro. Now that they're replaced by robots, McDonalds has become quicker and more pleasant.
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>>136820708
I definitely did not see this coming.
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>>136820708
I live in D.C. and I hate talking to nogs. This is great.
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>>136821206
any civilized area already has at least 9.50 and it still isnt close to a living wage
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>>136821173
If you remove an important job from the labor division then the lower class will collapse, when the lower class collapses you will millions of homeless poor people.

Is this really what you want?

I mean liberal bias aside, do you want a great depression? Where you as the lowest common denominator will suffer greatly as a result?
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Good

I hate poor people
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>>136820802
Haha
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>>136820708
I quit the fast food jew a couple years ago but I refuse to shop anywhere that doesn't have human cashiers. I wait the extra time in line to avoid all self checkouts. When an employee tells me that the self checkout is open, I ask them why they would want me to actively contribute to their future unemployment.
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>tfw work out back
>tfw this will not affect me
>...for now
What a time to be alive
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>>136821114
>economic collapse
lol are you clinically retarded?
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>>136820955
This. Where I live we cant get enough people to work at Mcdonalds. So they need robot helpers.
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>>136821180
>Like there will be any jobs in 3 generations
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>>136821402
Why do we need to keep propping up those who are dead weight in society?
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>>136821091
Of course they aren't, they want us to kill the foreign invaders and get killed in return

I wouldn't be surprised if the government rolled in to stop such a civil war and decided to make all whites they encounter into 'tragic casualties of war'

Gulags soon my brothers
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>>136820708
Good. Fuck being a cashier, it's one of the worst professions out there. I actually prefer flipping burgers to being a cashier.
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>>136821556

t. doesn't understand economics

This will in no way help our economy, if you cannot provide a counter argument then kys idiot.
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I work at a McDonalds with a fully automated ordering system and we still have around 30 employees

you know how many times the paper gets stuck in those and refuse to print a recipt and in my store cashiers were usually the managers and shift managers anyway so no one got fired..

i get paid 12$ ph for the reference
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>>136821762
>>This will in no way help our economy
nigga the only one that counts is you

protip if you ain't already in the top class you gon die poor
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>>136820708

We have touch screen kiosks in locations where they have to pay slightly more, like motorways and L O N D O N
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>>136820888
you got it boss
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>>136820708
I remember some McDs in New York had these back in the 90s. What took them so long to do this?
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>>136820708
How does it feel to be completely btfo at every turn, liberals? Every single thing you do ends in failure, and we all end up worse for it.
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>>136821114

>economic collapse

Just like that economic collapse that occurred when we automated nearly all the farming jobs out of existence when 80% or more people were farmers... oh wait...
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>>136820708
Removes nig nogs
Everyone wins
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>>136822048
Well you know a McDonalds doesnt actually make that much money Ive looked at my McDonalds financial report (my Location's company owns 3 stores) and they make 150k quids a year from 3 stores in profit
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>>136821914
>is in italy
>calling me a nigga

at least I can be happy knowing I'm not poor white trash like you.
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>>136820708
I'd like to believe people are intelligent enough to stop buying their shitty food and protest automation in general, but from my observations, they aren't... we've lost so many jobs to outsourcing and we've been getting replaced by machines for a while. A rising population and a shrinking job market... we're just about fucked at this point.
>>136821146
>inb4poor
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>>136820708
>replacing cashiers with order machines
>removal of need for human interaction which is a legit problem for NEETs who are too poor for real food
>removal of need for cashiers to interact with various undesirable clients who just want to throw a fit or a scene or flirt
>removal of worry for cashiers about proper counting/not missing clients' money/not forgetting if they didn't pay which can legit cripple a typical mini-wage cashier financially


>only drawback is that niggers and single moms have to work the kitchen instead of interact iwth clients

I see no problem with this desu.
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>tfw sheetz has had these for a decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPiTNR2cy4A

who pa here
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>>136822048

I live in some shitty as small town and even we got these touch screens at McDonalds now.

Apparently they hire about 24 people now. They use to hire 75.
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>>136822080
I'd assume back then paying a niglet a minimal wage was cheaper to use nationwide.
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>>136820708
This article is from last year..
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>>136820708
Good.

This way, I don't have to interact with poorfags as much as before.
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>>136822256
And now we got these idiots who hate liberals so much that they would willingly see our country's economy go into depression just so they can see others suffer.

/pol/ has gotten to the point of flanderization.
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>>136822256
>protest automation in general

The Luddites always lose.
Plus why would you want people working at fast food places in the first place? It's a terrible existence. Nobody should be forced to do a job we can automate.
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Figure out the tax income each of those employees would have provided to the state and tax the kiosks.
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>>136822256
>protest automation in general

Why don't you protest all that farming automation that has allowed us to produce thousands of times more food for less than 1/40th of the human effort that it took 150 years ago?
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>>136822188
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>>136820708
>Make customer do the job of cashiers
Fucking jews. Next they would force us to make burgers themselves.
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>>136821046
Same here, but the cashier also works the drive-thru, and drive-thru takes precedence.
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>>136822334
The problem you idiots don't realize is that when the cashiers are automated and put out of work, they'll try to find other low-skill high labor jobs. We are already in a market where getting one is exceptionally hard, and once they are put out of work they will go on welfare, therefore draining the state and causing inflation.

Now that Walmart is starting the process thats 1.3 million US jobs going out. Now process that with paying each of them $20,000 a year from the government.

You idiots bitch about liberals taking your tax money in welfare but now you literally want those who do have jobs to lose them so they can be a drain as well?

I can't believe the idiocy on /pol/ nowadays. Shit has gone downhill since election season tenfold.
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>>136820708
>just raise min wage they said

HOW ABOUT THE RENT AND TAXES ARE TOL DAMN HIGH
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>>136822723
>you idiots
Look who replies to you, here McD pays like 3 times minimal wage.
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>>136820708
It was gonna happen eventually OP. No surprise. The future is now. These workers are gonna have to perk up and go look for a job elsewhere, or as cooks there (if they have any room left).
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>>136822187

It totally fucking happened.

Collapse lets money and power be consolidated. I don't think the $15/hour was a good idea; I think automation is inevitable. More people will lose money than gain money, but those that do will gain tons.

UBI will be needed to prevent armed uprisings in the future, but anons shouldn't be like "Hurrr welfare is fucked" because it can just be deducted from everyone's taxes evenly and everyone can get an even return. $400/month is a fuckton to a broke person, but mortgage subsidy to multi-millionaire.

UBI can be conservatively done and not fuck everything up.
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>>136820708
I was in Stockholm last year. Restaurants called Max already have a similar system. It worked well when we ordered, especially since we could see a menu in english on the touchscreen. Plus, their labor force during lunch hours was half that of a normal McDonalds since there is no need for a bunch of people taking orders...
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Used a kiosk at McDonalds in Boston near Fenway Park before Red Sox game recently. Took a little getting used to but better than payin some bernie bro 15 an hour
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>>136820708
but muh $15 an hour
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>>136820708
B-but muh immagrunts!
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>>136822920
Automation is good

but in this case it is forced by government to cause inflation and overspendings

companies will be forced to invest money! by force LOL because government ordered them to increase cost price LOL (green energy meme)

it is called "crony socialism" and manipulation with debt/gdp stats.
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>>136820708
> intersectionality
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They already have this at most Canadian locations. There is one cashier that takes orders for the elderly/tech inept or hating, and takes cash for the orders made at kiosks that weren't paid via debit/credit. Then there are 4-6 kiosks that take the orders and payments for almost everyone. It works really well actually.

Mobile app ordering is planned soon for the US which is even easier (saved payment in app and "favorite orders" that you can repeat with a couple of taps).

But shit like this will inevitably lead to universal basic income. Driverless cars, automated order kiosks, cashless tolling tags... these all eliminate jobs to the benefit of society (lower prices), but eventually a lot individuals will have no skill worth paying a wage for.
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Automation is best for everyone in the end. Though leading up to that is extremely harmful to everyone. The silver lining is that Bernie shills are BTFO by automation.
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>>136820708
Object lesson regarding consequences if liberal policies in 3,2,1......
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You dumb fucks. This is about making your customers work for you for free.

The system the person behind the counter uses is already a touch screen order taker. All they are doing is turning the screen 180 degrees and making it bigger. From now on, you get to do minimum wage labor every time you go out for food! It's exactly the same thing as grocery stores putting in self checkout machines. They lie about it being faster, but all it means is that you need to work for the grocery store if you want your food.

Companies have been doing this more and more, ever since they replaced phone operators with making you press buttons and navigate the phone system yourself.

You idiots clap your flippers and say "Yay they are eliminated jobs!" when in reality, they are just firing workers, hiring you, and not paying you.

Next it's going to be putting order machines at restaurant tables and making you go pick it up when your order is done.
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>>136821026
Government interferes with the market causing low wages and high prices, then makes laws to fix the wages. We cannot keep doing this shit.
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...but...but...what will the mexicans & niggers do if there's no zero-skilled work available?
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>>136823614
>Next it's going to be putting order machines at restaurant tables and making you go pick it up when your order is done.
They bring the good to you at your McDonald's? Those fuckers just call your number when your shit is ready so you can pick it up at the counter at mine.
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>>136823614
>self checkout isnt faster
In what universe do you live in
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>>136820708
It's not related to labor laws at all. Automation is a fact of life in every industry. Personally I don't like their automated cashier so I'll be going elsewhere when possible.
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>>136820708
>You might not like burger flippers but with automation millions of people stand to lose their jobs and risk flinging our country into another great depression.
Great, another fucking libtard who doesn't understand jack shit about economics.
The only thing risking causing a great depression in your $15/hr minimum wage bullshit. That drives businesses OUT OF BUSINESS. Then they don't add any money to the economy. It crashes.
McDonalds could entire automate their businesses (were that possible) and still be adding money to economy. It would just mean some of you useless leftists would be out of work. Most of you don't work anyway. You stay at home all day and troll 4chan.
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>>136822158
They're not stupid. They're liars. Everything they do works, in terms of what their actual aims are.
Quit acting like leftists are dumb. The (((leaders))) are pure evil, and have a strategy that's been winning for over a century.
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>>136823614
I'm willing to press a few buttons if it means I don't have to associate with a McDonald's employee
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>>136823818
A universe who reads studies on the subject.

Go look it up.
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>>136821904

I imagine staff levels won't drop proportionately to automation.

I work in a supermarket and it's always a case of prioritising the most immediately pressing tasks at the expense of everything else because they can't afford enough staff to do everything necessary.

Ten years ago, before the crash, there were excess staff because they could afford it, so I imagine automation, ie: effectively free workers, would gradually bring it back to the excess level that they'd preferentially operate on before workers get laid off.
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>>136823883
>Great, another fucking libtard
wrong

stopped reading there
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>>136823614
>wages aren't factored into prices at all
Yeah, okay buddy.

>It's exactly the same thing as grocery stores putting in self checkout machines. They lie about it being faster, but all it means is that you need to work for the grocery store if you want your food.
My grocery store has scanners that you take when you go in and you scan everything as you go throughout the store. Then when you get to the self checkout, you use the scanner on a barcode above the register. Dozens of items ring up in a couple seconds and then you just put your payment method.

Even if you don't scan your own items before getting to the self checkout, it's way fucking faster if your grocery store has a real self checkout and not the retarded NCR SelfServ ones (UNEXPECTED ITEM IN BAGGING AREA).
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ACCELERATIONISM IS COMING

Only Mexicans work at Mcdonalds nowadays anyway. Who gives a shit
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>>136823614
They do it in every service around the world

But people stop to use service if it requires to read or to type too much. it is an offence to customer

People are not so stupid.
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>>136823979
Doesnt work that way. Once you are called out as a liberal you magically turn into one.
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>>136820708
Enjoy AI revolution
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>>136823370
>these all eliminate jobs to the benefit of society (lower prices), but eventually a lot individuals will have no skill worth paying a wage for.
Solution - prostitution.
Legal again.
Demand never runs out.
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>>136823846
This is fucking retarded. No one doubts these jobs would eventually go away. The problem is that wage controls are an artificially imposed forcing function. It's still costing companies more to do this than if they were to continue paying lower wages to people, for at least a few more years.
Inevitability is one thing. Timelines are another entirely. Same applied to abolition, and we fucked that up catastrophically too.
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>>136820951
Just the cashiers are being replaced (for now). I don't think they were the biggest foid-spit culprits.
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>>136820708
Already have a few near my McDonalds. The machines never have receipt paper in them or the card reader doesnt work so I have to use a cashier. Seems we are still a decent while from full automation at micky d's.
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>>136823614
>You dumb fucks. This is about making your customers work for you for free.
Literally the first intelligent person in this thread.
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>>136821114
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>But is the economic collapse that will occur because of this worth it so your food is prepared the way you like it?

This situation came about because low skill workers think that they should get $15/hr to put French fries in a bag, not because they haven't been preparing the food a certain way.
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>>136821091
>government
Seriously? Why is it the government's fault if your in the wrong career path? If you're already there, just get educated in whatever else is not automatable in the foreseeable future.
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>>136821238
>tfw you realize automation is intended to combat the dindu takeover of retail

I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords
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>>136820708
Are these corporate locations or franchise locations?
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>>136820708
it's not like this wasn't a specifically mentioned, highly likely consequence of ridiculous $15 minimum wage. Unfortunately, libs gonna feelz.
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>>136823883
>the only thing
Wages have been flat since 1970 while inflation has been up 300-400%
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>>136823614
Lulz

I prefer not to deal with other people whenever possible. Shit gets done fast and right when I scan or enter data, not so much when Jamal/Achmed/Sunil/Jose do it. Besides, these idiots made a stand for $15/hr when it is not feasible and puts the entire biz at risk, then got it moved into force of Law.

Let em die on the hill they chose to defend.
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The McDonald's in my city have it. You pay by card and get a receipt and a number and just wait for you food. I got the number 69 once and the lady had to shout it out loud lol
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>>136820708
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>>136824202
>The problem is that wage controls are an artificially imposed forcing function.
this

this created leads to debt, infaltion and trade outlaws and many other shit. bubble will collapse and a lot of people will die

companies are forced to make investment programs based on artificially imposed norms

it is "crony socialism" that is rampaging around the world
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>>136820802
Aussies bringing the banter. I'm loving it
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>>136821046
People are so fucking dumb now, tech is really exposing that. Cashier types can no longer function in society. We have to stop breeding them
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>>136820708
HOW COULD NO ONE SEE THIS COMING! WHY IS THIS WORLD SO CRUEL WHY WHY WHY HOW COULD THIS EVEN HAPPEN HOW IS IT COST EFFECTIVE TO PUT A ROBOT RATHER THEN A PERSON!!
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>>136820802
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>>136824339
I didn't say that at all, I was replying to a particular poster and you took it out of context.

Read again idiot.
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So which robo nigger is going to tell me the mcflurry machine is broke?
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>>136824330
I for one don't care because now I don't have to deal with niggers at the register. That's worth the effort. Plus, this will lower the prices on the menu as well. McDonald's biggest problem was being too expensive and too shitty at the same time in this decade. Using this tech will drive down costs.
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>>136820708
AHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>breath
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH

Where the Democratic Party pass, glass doesn't grow anymore.
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>>136821578
I agree with you but the problem is they will be propped up whether we want them to or not, and I'd rather have them flipping burgers than collecting welfare
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>>136820708
That's fantastic, now I can get paid $50/hr to maintain those kiosks around my state.

God bless capitalism.
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>>136823614
t. never had a job

The cooks run the cash register. There is no dedicated cashier position in any place of employment. Not walmart, not mcdonalds, not any place in the world. Cashiers always do two jobs or more, whether it's cooking, stocking, running dishes, setting tables, or whatever else.

Do you really think they pay somebody to stand there? Like - for the 16 hours most McDonalds stores are open, do you think they have two or three people who just stand behind the counter and do nothing else?

If they did do that, shouldn't you idiot ancaps be happy that McDonalds is eliminating a wasteful position?
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>>136824163
>implying that there won't be sexbots

>>136824399
Automation also disfavors small business because the larger chains can more easily finance the cost of automation and the fixed costs of automating generally across many locations. So the higher minimum wages disproportionately impact smaller businesses in cases where automation is a potential option.
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>>136820708
>Why are we supporting this?

We're not supporting it. It will happen whether we like it or not because no-one here is the CEO of McDonald's. This is not difficult to understandt.
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>>136823956

>I work in a supermarket

Maybe you should grow up then you retarded manchild. Anyone working a wagecuck job over the age of 18 doesn't deserve to live. I owned my own small business at age 20.
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>>136820828
Way too much credit.

Raise the minimum wage types operate on toddler level thinking
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>>136820708
in a world where capitalism could work instantaneously and with no cost of entry....

...i know, vacuums don't exist...

anyway, in theory, if everything menial could be automated, then everything produced by menial tasks would be dirt cheap...but it will take decades or centuries to reach that mark.

when items produced by menial work is dirt cheap, then it won't matter that nobody has a good job. yay!
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>>136822723
Are you actually implying people who work at McDonald's aren't on welfare? Lol.

I don't work a low skilled job and my field is very in demand, so I don't give a fuck about some white trash loser/nigger/spic who works at McDonalds.
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>>136820708
On a more positive note, this means new recruits in the neet army.
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>>136821180
You know "universal basic income" is really just a new marketing term for communism, right?
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>>136820708
>risk flinging our country into another great depression.
This isn't going to happen as business owners will be paying more money in taxes for the shitton of money they are going to earn by not having cashiers
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>>136824647
Ida Auken is a thirty-something year old member of the Danish parliament. She created a bit of a stir with an article she penned recently for the World Economic Forum (WEF) that describes her ideal society and city in the year 2030. It’s a place, Auken writes, “where you own nothing and you have no privacy.” Need to cook? Kitchen equipment is “delivered within moments.” No cars are allowed. Transportation is free and available with driverless machines. There is no rent in the city, because your space is used by others when you’re not there. Robots and AI do most of the work, so you can be more creative and socialize. Ms. Auken has one note of caution in her utopian missive:

“I have no real privacy. No where I can go and not be registered. I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me.”

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/
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>>136824793
You're retarded and a lot dumber than you think you are. You are a fucking basic bitch retard who believes everything is a coincidence, fucking newfag idiot.
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>>136824746
>maybe you should realize everyone isn't le 4chan ancap genius.

Physically remove yourself.
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Fucking finally. I literally do all my ordering online for food now. I hate talking to people and specially niggers they never provide good service and get my order wrong all the time.
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>>136821026
uh no. this what capitalism looks like
even if the minimum wage is $1, mcdonalds will still replace cashiers.
math for your retard brain btw
1 x 8 = 8 dollar a day for cashiers
8 x 28 = 240 a month for a single cashier
if theres 8 cashiers = 8x 240 = a whopping 1240 just to hire shitheads that sit around the cash register and do literally jack shit all day

compare this to automation where you only have to pay a technician $20 an hour to manage 8 robots
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We all know who is responsible for this
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>>136820708
These machines already exist and people prefer the human interaction. Time to short MCD if they do this.
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>>136824445
>I prefer not to deal with other people whenever possible.
Especially when the "people" are chinks, spics, dot-heads, or nigger who barely speak English.
"Howza wudd I gecho nome sain?"
"Belcohm to Meegdohnalt how ken bee hilp jyoo?"
"wih tek yooah ohdah now vehgood vegood vegood!"
Fucking kill me!
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>>136820708
I used one of these touchscreen kiosks at my local McDonald's.

It was amazing.

I can't wait until every cashier is gone.
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>>136824746

>Spain
>Neet subhuman

Yup. Checks out.
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>>136820708
>in EVERY store
I thought they were a franchise
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>>136824647
>this will lower the prices on the menu as well
kys if you actually believe tihs
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>>136824746
Oh we got a bigshot over here. Is your cock 12 inches long too?
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>>136820708
to get rid of lowlife antifa people who work at mcdonalds is why we support it
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>>136824906
No it's a new marketing term for welfare, aka state-subsidized consumption
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>>136824994
It is quite the coincidence that (((you're))) salty
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>>136820969
What did he mean by this?
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>>136824699
i work at mackie dees before you dumbfuck. cashiers are a real thing. they are told to man the register for hours doing jack shit.
why the fuck do you want to hire freeloaders while a robot can do the job for no money?
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>>136820708
Quick rundown on why we import low IQ fucks that can only do jobs like those that will be replaced by machines soon?
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>>136824930
Couple my post here >>136822723 with the fact that small businesses won't be able to afford the cost of automating things, and only the big businesses benefit.

You reddit-tier neo-basement dwellers are too fucking stupid to see the ramifications just because you have an inherent bias against Liberals, since you browse /pol/ all day.

And yes it's true, and no I'm not a Liberal, go strawman somewhere else faggot.
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neat, so we accelerate our transition into brazil 2.0. A country of the haves and have-nots, the middle class of india and china take over as the dominate consumer markets
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>>136822256

Birth rate in the US is negative, has been for years now. Only reason the population is going up is because people are living longer, and we're importing tons of people. We stop importing people, population will settle down. Medical technology can't make us live forever, at least not yet.
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>>136824746

I am too retarded to do anything else.
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>>136820708
>Americans top stupid to figure out how a union works

Stay third world murica
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>>136825314
When I was in Germany the fast food places and coffee houses were staffed by Germans mostly though.
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>>136820708
Hello my fellow luddites, let's continue to complain about technological advances while we post from our pcs and smart phones
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>>136823778
this
>Increase minimum wage
>Unemployment goes up as businesses can't afford to pay, especially small businesses that also go out of business
>"Oh NO we voted for increasing minimum wage now employment is skyrocketing and the small businesses I like are shutting down, we now need MORE government intervention and give loans to these small businesses"
>this is literally what Californians believe
https://youtu.be/KFLqYYRpNMQ
NO MORE GOV INTERVENTION, IT MAKES EVERYTHING THING WORSE, ABOLISH THE MINIMUM WAGE
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>>136824831

I'm always impressed with my local mcdonalds the staff are always friendly, the resturant is clean. I don't mind some automation but I always enjoy having a chat with the staff when I'm in the drive-thru. Mcdonalds gives a great opportunity for young people to start out their working career.
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why have no americans asked the important question. will this make burgers cheaper? :-DDD
>>136823778
bless you sir, Mises would be proud.
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>>136820708
I dont buy fast food and have not entered a mcdonalds for years, I dont give a single fuck they can all fuck off
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Ahahahaha!
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>>136820708
but anon, the wealth mcdonald's shareholders accrue from this will just trickle down to the cashiers
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>>136825439
my local one is full of brown people right now
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>>136823614

>This is about making your customers work for you for free.

Which is the entire argument of increasing minimum wage. If any smuk can come in, press 3 buttons and be done why do we need to pay someone $15 for it? unskilled labor so easy a retard could do it and the only reason why it still exists is out of courtesy.
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>>136824699
t.someone who never worked at a store

I work at asda (UK division of walmart), and I've also worked in 3 other stores. Not ONE of them operated in the way that you say they do. At asda there are indeed dedicated cashiers who's only job is to stand there at the till. Same when I was at M&S. Same when I was at Morrison's. And every time I go to McDonalds, you can clearly see that there are kitchen staff, and till staff.

If OPs image is true it is good because it means antifa cucks won't get gibs
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>>136825363
>muh 1%
>muh haves and have nots

Do us all a favor and kill yourself berncuck. (((Socialism))) doesn't work and never will. Instead of blaming hardworking people who own property, why not become one of those people? Unless of course you're a lazy fuck with a room temperature IQ, in which case move to Venezuela youll fit in there.

BTFO.
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>>136822870
capitalism you fucking nigger
the strong survive and the weak dies
thats how it is in india and thats how its gonna be in trump's USA.
not born in a rich family or you have a disease that prevents you from working hard? say hello to the streets because thats where you will be living on from now on.
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>>136824670

This. Low wage jobs are out, and going to be replaced by a smaller amount of higher paying jobs. It won't be even, there will be efficiency gains, but there will still be a lot of opportunities for people in the middle of this change if they develop the necessary skills.
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>>136820708
Hell yeah mah dude, $0.39 cheeseburgers are coming back!!
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>>136825211
>from each according to their ability to each according to their need

Tell people the benefits of welfare up front and later when the basic income wrecks the economy commies can say capitalism failed and try to play for total commie economic control.
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>>136825663
I wonder how much your dad loaned you to start your business at 18.
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>>136820969
Yep, the rust belt has already evolved to professional welfare collectors and crack dealers
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>>136825630
>unskilled labor so easy a retard could do it
That's the other invisible side effect. Retards will NEVER be worth $15, so they're permanently unemployable. This in spite of the fact that there are plenty of $4/hour tasks that might suit some of them.
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>>136823952
Hold up, it's faster for me to stand in the 1 of 2 cashier lanes where people are dumping 50+ items on a belt rather than going to the self-checkout to take care of my 12 items? Jesus I've been doing it all wrong.
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When I was in uni I used to get riled up about shit like this after my leftist brainwashing but I took economics and finance, and got deprogrammed

The fact of the matter is, minimum wage laws hurt the lower class because in the real world businesses don't exist to employ people. Mcdicks is a low skill first job for teenagers to teach them necessary skills to survive in the world

If you're too retarded to find skilled well paying jobs then that's your problem, not McDonald's. they aren't, and rightly so, going to give up profit so you can get paid more.

like I really give a shit that you can't support your stupid 19 kids working part time flipping burgers, should of looked farther down the road, retard
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>>136825766
this x100
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This is it, the beginning of the automation age. Better go get some higher education or learn how to live on your own accord because this is only going to spread and small jobs like this will be taken over.
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>>136820708
The faster everything is automated the faster money dies.
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>>136825845
this
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>>136821563
Bullshit, they're obviously being very picky so they can then whine about it and justify bringing in cheap foreign labor or this.
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>>136822722

Pretty soon you'll have to download the app, put your order in the app and tap your phone to order and pay at the same time.
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>>136825845
>being a burger flipper is an insult again
Fuck yes.
Work hard or die you stupid commie fucks
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>>136825845

>yfw they import a load of Africans to pay $1/hour
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>>136820708
automation will only displace the amount of workers proportionate to what is needed to purchase products.

If you displace all workers with automation, through electorate they max tax the hell out of that business.

I predict technologists are going to rock everyone's political belief very shortly
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>>136824422
>Wages have been flat since 1970 while inflation has been up 300-400%
Do you even understand the meaning of any of those words you just wrote?
The average yearly income in 1970 was $6186.
A new car cost $3542.
The average yearly income in 2010 was $41,674. A new car cost $29,217.
I see most of a year's wages in both cases. What do you see? This giant disparity you are pretending exists, which I suspect is entirely the product of your own greed and laziness, is a figment of your imagination. You're rich. You're spoiled. You're stupid. You're lazy. You're greedy. You're delusional.
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>>136820708
TECHNOCRATS WIN AGAIN BAYBEE,
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>>136826097
why not outsource the cashier job to indians staying in their shitholes for 10 cents an hour?
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>>136820708
Where i live we already have these kiosks alongside the normal cashiers. I ALWAYS use these kiosks they're faster and more reliable than some oogabooga taking your order and noting down the wrong items cause muh languagebarrier. Anyways i once had it happen that the staff disabled the kiosk while there was noone waiting in line and there was this worker smiling at me while i was making my order at the kiosk. At this moment i just fucking left and mailed a complaint to McDonalds. These cashiers should go and get a real job, in my country they're incompetent as fuck.
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>>136820708
So long as the one remaining burger flipper gets his 15 shekels an hour, why not?
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Wagecucks btfo
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>>136826192
You forget stuff like rent you retard.
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>>136826097
>automated touch-screen kiosks
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>no more human employees
>fast food restaurants are now considered vending machines
>corporate taxes plummet
>no one to pay for muh UBI
capitalism is so beautiful
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>>136826230
>cashier
>outsource

fuck me you're retarded
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>>136820708
Mostly black teens and hispanics will be losing their jobs. Fine by me. The hispanics might even leave.
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>>136826168
>automation will only displace the amount of workers proportionate to what is needed to purchase products.
Exactly right! Here is a person who understands the logic behind economic theory. If automation were actually capable of taking everyone's job away (which it isn't), people would not have money to make purchases at businesses and they would fold.
Replacing the low-functioning retards at the counter in McDonald's is not going to collapse civilization.
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>>136821114
maybe those sub 85 IQ niggers and wetbacks who actually work those jobs will be put back into productive work out in the fields where they belong.
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>>136825845

BUT WHAT IF THEY ENJOY FLIPPING BURGERS ANON? SHOULD THEY BE PUNISHED FOR WANTING TO DO WHAT THEY LOVE?
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>>136826168
They said the same type of shit during the industrial revolution. This is what spawned the thoughts behind that shit idealogy of Marxism. Just let nature and capitalism take its course. New Markets will emerge.
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>>136826413
its just a job where you talk to people you fucking eternal retard.
any pajeet can fucking do it
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>>136824330
>By ordering from online retainers, you are literally working for free!

Bypassing redundancy in order to get goods is fairly smart, unless you're going to tell me Farmers Markets should hire a cashier (non family member) because that would be the smart way to conduct exchange of goods and services.
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>>136826368

Probably more expensive than a dindu.

>>136826230

English skills are too poor, which would drive away customers.
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>>136822723

Do you not realize McDonalds and other companies are doing this because of you dipshit liberals and your obsessive march on "LOL 15$ MINIMUM WAGE" etc?

Profitability is the only component a company cares about; labor is only worth what it's worth; when you consistently legislate less profitability, they will consistently adapt.

You democrats/liberals and your constant pretending that 0 value human beings are somehow mystically worth ever-increasing quantities are the driving force behind automation, and the absolute fucking decimation of the zero-value subclass of apes that hold minimum wage jobs beyond the age of 18.

As far as I'm concerned, all welfare should be utterly abolished and those who produce zero value and have zero ambition should be left to die in the streets.
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>>136821114
>more pooros on the streets to get addicted to opiods and die
I don't see the problem.
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>>136823614

>work for you for free

Do you complain about having to walk around the store, instead of being pushed in a wheelchair by an employee?
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>>136826550
I checked the OP's link and it seems to be 6 months old and the site itself is no reliable.
This is not happening. OP got us all.
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>>136820708
soon as niggers start smashign them up, theyll change their tune. these programs work in canada because we dont have american niggers.
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>>136820708
>Seattle

that's fucking sweet
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>>136820955
Yeah nah, it's mostly because of wages. If a cashier costs 8$/h and a robot 10$/h (doesn't include costs of buying them), it's more economical to employ people, but when you gotta pay people 15$/h...
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>>136826465
>99D underwater monopoly with a pool cue
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>>136820708
The sad thing is the people who push for higher minimum wage are happy about this. The closer we are to the idea of UBI, the better for them. They want automation to take everything over. Im starting to think they only reason they push for higher wages is because they want everyone to be on welfare so they can say "heh, so much for boot straps huh? I guess socialism is undoubtably the future aye stupid capitalists?" They are so in love with the idea of socialism.
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>>136825663
Lulz. The most developed nations in the world are all socialist. Shit, the Chinese are fucking communist.

You're a fucking idiot. Pretty soon you will be swallowing Mao's Little Red Book enriched semen by the boat load. Marx is end game you little bitch. The time for your barbaric capitalism is over.

Now go let your small clit angst out be jerking off to Korean cartoons and fantasizing about what a strong, independent, capitalist man you are.
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>>136826550
you can install 2 options for customers
one is a touch machine and another is a helpdesk for baby boomers or hicks that are too stupid to use them.
if they dont like it fuck off to a fancy restaurant that charges $200 per meal or some shit
this is fucking mcdonalds
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>>136826748
See >>136824932
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Good, terrible soul-crushing monotonous minimum wage jobs should be automated and the faster it happens the faster the band-aid of figuring out what to do abut unemployment in an economy where you don't really need everyone to work gets torn off.
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>>136824793
The useful idiots, yes of course. They dont know what they are doing. The people who push these ideas into their heads are very aware though.
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>>136820708

sorry for loss, burger.

Whatever will you eat now.
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>>136820708
I hope that happens. 80% of the employees are shitskins either way.
What they should have is some easy job openings for YOUNG people that needs something while searching for a school or whatever. Like a program that allows them to work for 5-8 months before getting replaced.

Nobody should work at a shitty fast food place when they are over 25 and later demand higher minimum pay because they are too useless to get anything better. I fully understand their decision to just replace the morons that demand shit with machines.
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>>136826524

Or they'll just live on welfare and gibs like the other niggers.

kys.
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>>136820708
They've had these in Aus for a while now. They're p cool plus I don't have to talk to some high school retard who is going to ask me to repeat my order several times and still get it wrong.
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>>136826593
>As far as I'm concerned, all welfare should be utterly abolished and those who produce zero value and have zero ambition should be left to die in the streets.
never going to happen, in 15 years time being a part of the "privileged working class" will be some kind of honor as workers carry the rest of humanity on their backs. Non workers at the very least should attempt to live economically and just give thanks. Imagine 5 guys needing to move a dresser up a couple of flights of stairs...just let the strongest 2 do the job, more people won't solve the hard problems faster.

STEMwashing a mistake, we're just looking at a future with not enough "work" to go around, mandated pity jobs and UBI is inevitable.
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>>136826962
welfare and gibs dont exist in future america
theyll either die or sell drugs
whatever happened in brazil obviously
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>>136825981
Yes, this is the equivalent of the "crops may rot in the fields" articles that run every year. They're just bitching because they see their cheap indentured servants going away.
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>>136820708
wow its like actions have consequenzes
$15 minimum wagefags will get $0 (zero) soon
karma is a bitch
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>>136826359
>You forget stuff like rent you retard.
Median gross rent in 1970 for the US: $108.
Median gross rent in 2010 for the US: $855.
So average income increased by about 8 times and so did rent.
Facts just aren't you're friends, are they?
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>>136826593
You forget that once a company goes towards automation then it gets addicted to it. It's easier to maintain standards and control quality. Less managerial staff, HR, etc. You can't just say that it's the artificial rising cost of labour when we are living in the age of labour surplus.
Even in the third world when McCucks opens shop they will roll out their autobots, simply because they know what to expect from machines.

The state has deal with employment and welfare not McCucks. Even if there was no min wage it might be more profitable to "hire" a bot than a real employee which is what the industrial revolution was all about.
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>>136820802
Fpbp
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>>136826593
This has been a thought that's bugged me all day concerning the "save everyone" camp.

They say we should care about everyone. Naturally the words 'why' pop into my head. "Because everyone deserves a chance" followed again with 'why' "What if it was you?" then in my head popped in one of the more morbid thoughts I've had "Were I ever in such a condition that I was not productive or could not contribute, I would prefer death than to linger", This is the same ideal I apply to my will in the even of becoming broccoli or lose functions/faculties that would degrade my existence. The same people that destroyed the concept of god now struggle to justify the purpose of existance, Without anything post-death unlesss you were rich enough to leave a monument, you will fade into dust, in name, photographs, memorials, anything. It all becomes nothing when stood against time itself.

These idiots think that every person starts WITH value rather than BUILDS value, They will never change thought until they realize this, thus it's typically why older individuals catch onto this concept and have no love for the homeless and poor whom had made their choices.
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>>136826988
seen them here too, much more convenient, means more cooks and faster food.
Also went to america, i had to repeat my order 3 times cause the cashier didn't understand MY ENGLISH
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As a redpilled democrat, i saw through the ruse the entire time. Fast food manipulated useful idiots to protest for the 15$ wage so they could automate everything. Now this shit is coming to new york, already failing in seattle. Dumb fucks.
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>>136820708
It's already like that here and the service is much better and faster.
Still a few cashiers for some people but these touch screen orders are greatly encouraged.
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>>136820955
>They’re starting with stores where minimum-wage laws mandate the highest rates, such as Florida, New York, San Francisco, Boston, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and Seattle."

Did you even read it nigger
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>>136827659
Woah, watch the racism!
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>>136820802
The eternal dingo strikes again
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>>136820708
So even more people on (((benefits))) due to not being able to find a job. Everyone who works in these places near me are niggers, they might be dumb but they're trying. Now they'll just collect Medicaid like the rest.
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>>136827706
>Woah, watch the racism!
First day on /pol/?
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>>136827594
They probably surveyed the biggest turn off at these and found that it was ordering process.
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>>136821472
>I refuse to shop anywhere that doesn't have human cashiers
I use human cashiers when possible, but I'd prefer a computer order to a nigger, and mcdonalds is 365black.com
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>>136827775
OH GOD NO! A black person as a cashier? GASP!
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>>136820708
>McDonald's is improving their service.

Oh noes!
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>>136827795
Nope. :p
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>>136827775
>they might be dumb but they're trying
Sure, sure they are.
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>>136824793

>implying the raise minimum wagetards in the general population are the same as the corporations and their stooges who push it as an agenda in the media
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>>136820708
Don't even eat at Mcdonalds anyways, they are now expensive as Wendy's where I live and we don't even have $15 minimum wage. Six bucks for a fucking double quarter pounder.
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>>136827847
well the last time i went to mcd the cashiers are white
blacks are usually the cooks or the janitors
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>>136822474
>using tvtropes phrases sociologically
Nigga the only flanderized thing here is your perception of reality
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>>136821395
its not supposed to be a living wage you fucking leech
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>>136828015
Oooh, a southerner! Say, what does pig cum taste like?
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>>136824932
Holy fucking shit, she is retarded. It's unbelievable how pathetic creatures they are.
>Better record everybody because I'm emotional and might do something stupid, exactly like everybody else!
>Better ban guns because I might misuse one in heat of the moment, exactly like everybody else!
>Better pass hundreds of stupid laws that prevent stupid things, because I'm not capable of defending myself from employers, I don't know free market works both ways and that I can just not buy some things and EVERYBODY is just like me!
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>>136820708
I don't support it, I keep saying that there should absolutely be no minimum wage laws, but no one listens.
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>>136827834
>I use human cashiers when possible
Why? Automatic checkout is the best thing that ever happened to grocery stores in the US. Most times of day, the line is very short and because I'm not an idiot, there's nothing to slow me down when I get to the scanner. I don't have to deal with some affirmative-action beneficiary with morbid obesity and a room-temperature IQ trying to figure out where the scan-code is on a box of cereal.
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So there will still be somebody employeed to walk the food to the table the customer sits?
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>>136827154
Did you even look at what I posted? It's about $1000 now. The average monthly wage is about $3000. Meaning roughly a third of your pay check goes to rent.

In 1970 the average wage was roughly 520 a month and average rent was $108 at the time. Meaning it was about a fifth of your wage.
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>>136826593
The problem is that they don't "die on the streets". They band up and vote in the biggest nigger who promises them gibs or they start a civil war. You can hardly blame them. It's basic survival instinct.
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>>136821395
Tx= 7.25/hr
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>>136827549
>These idiots think that every person starts WITH value rather than BUILDS value
Holy fuck I'm unironically agreeing with a roach.

Truly this is a day of days.
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>>136828148
>no one listens
What do you mean? I completely agree with you. If the wage is too low, nobody will work there, so the law is superfluous at best.
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>>136821072
>we need to import 75 IQ shitskins to do low paying jobs Americans won't do!

>whoops hahaha now there are no more jobs for them I guess we need to just give them 2k a month of tax payers money now
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>>136828237
Ooooh, a waffle! Enjoyed being raped in both World Wars?
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>>136827775
and they still try to push for 3rd world immigration because
>white people wont do the low skill jobs
Its all coming together like a puzzle. They just want a mass of non-white people that are easy to control with welfare.
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>>136828183
yeah its either the janitors or the managers
i went to these automaton mcd once and the guy who was mopped the floor handed my order to me.
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>>136821002

I agree it's turned into a shitshow. Receipts don't print so I don't know my order number, people getting stuff delivered to tables and not sitting in the right area, orders just get forgotten and you're left with an enormous queue of pissed off people.

Also this >>136820955 doesn't make sense - faster ordering =/= faster cooking. If it took 10 minutes to prepare food for 3 people ordering from a person, it's still going to take 10 minutes to prepare food cooked for 6 people ordering from a kiosk, hence backlogs.

It's all about money, nothing more, nothing less.
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>>136827154
You're dumb. Purchasing power for everyone not in the 1% has dropped dramatically in the last 50 years or so. It's no secret as to (((why)))
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>>136828294
see >>136828329
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>>136828322
Not an argument.
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>>136828126
This is the very near future, you might think that Western Europe is closer to it because the segments of the system are more visible, but Eastern Europe just has some other segments getting ready first, we're both at around 80% at this point.

And you know what the best thing is? No one gives a shit.
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>>136828291
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>>136828089
Don't even know what tvtropes is faggot.
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>>136820955

>That's not in response to higher wages

OFC it is, everything you listed is also an opportunity cost, which translates to lost profits.

Fuck I hate leftist sophistry trying to defend socialism. If you weren't all dumb as bricks we wouldn't be in this mess.

Yes Timmy no one gives a fuck about your higher ideals and BTW Bernie is a useless old man with useless ideas. Trump is a billionaire fucking supermodels and now running the country. Guess which person has ideas that are more advantageous in life.

Despair for even your fantasies you thought were reasonable are nothing but the mewling of infants. Despair, die, remove yourself and your ideas from the burden of effective people having to carry you any further through your dumb pointless existence. Or man up and stop believing in philosophies that glorify losers.
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>>136828283
Because I'm not a roach, I'm just abroad.
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>>136828294
It's scumfucks like you that make me ashamed to be an American...
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>>136820708
"Living wage" fags BTFO
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>>136828404
I know. Just a weak insult to your dumb fucking country.
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>>136820708
get fucked niggers.
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You could keep the whole world employed if we gave out mining jobs where you could only work with a spoon, but we don't because that would be stupid. We shouldnt keep jobs around just because of muh feefees
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It's an inevitable future, perhaps this is a bit premature but there is no question about where we're going. This is actually an issue almost never brought up, the fact that every single person is supposed to be busy mining shekels 9-5 every single day, there's just no reality in this "goal". In a decade or two, _a lot_ of people will be basically useless to corporate interests other than mindless consumerist drones to control, and not even for profit, this will be just for the fuck of it. No fun to be the boss unless you've got some slaves to whip with your power.

We need a major crisis on this planet, and we're gon' get it... one way or the other
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>>136820802
kek
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>>136828329
>white people wont do the low skill jobs
That is total bullshit. I don't know where everyone keeps getting that. I cleaned toilets for YEARS before I got my degree. Virtually everyone I worked with was white.
Who the fuck to liberals think picked our fruit in 1960? Do they think we all had slaves? Do they think every state had lots of non-whites around? White people do shit work just fine. Hell, it used to be a kind of rite of passage until kikes imported a million spics to take all that work away.
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>>136820708
cant plame McD's, the min wage is getting retarded as hell

fucking millennials are garbage
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>>136828693
Hello, mister anti-semite! Enjoy praising a dead man?
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>>136828693
Well they forget to complete the sentence
>white people wont do the low skill jobs .... for the offered wage.
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>>136828605
>No fun to be the boss unless you've got some slaves to whip with your power.
Quite funny that. In the end, the evolutionary drive to keep a dominance hierarchy keeps useless people alive.
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>>136820708
Wow mcdonald such a necessary industry.
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>>136828779
EXTREME SHILL
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>>136822474
how dafuq does automating cashiers cripple a economy? that says alot about the quality of workers you have there.

stop importing worthless low iq wagecucks
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>>136820828
>towards the point where depopulation becomes imperative.
>implying we haven't long since reached it
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MCD workers are retards, what do you do every single fucking time you order out? check the fucking bag to make sure they didn't forget anything. It's mandatory because they are idiots and happens all the fucking time.
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>>136828833
Who's paying me, then? ;)
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>>136820708
>>Rest of hominids.
Who could have expected this outcome? It totally blindsided everyone, I'm sure.
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>>136828104
How is he being a leech for working? So now people that have shit jobs are just as bad as neets and hobos?
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>>136828387
>Purchasing power for everyone not in the 1% has dropped dramatically in the last 50 years or so
That must be why we are all starving to death.
Now come back with the libtard bullshit about low wages making people fat because they can't afford the magic unicorn ambrosia that makes rich people skinny.
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>>136825748
I'm more of a Whopper guy.. McDonald's burgers are meh.
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>>136820708
I am so excited about this. I generally avoid The Clown, but I will make a point to go to one in DC. I have long advocated this system. Wawa and Royal Farms have the best business models. I hate going to the drive through because that retard is always the week link.
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>>136828800
Paper doesmt grant ypu power nor does burgers
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>>136828161
I usually get a lot of stuff, so that's one reason

but the main one is the fucking annoying loud "unrecognized item in the bagging area" and other instructions that are repeated a billion times as you wait to use one and whilst you use one
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>>136821002
>>136828347
>in UK.
That sums it up though, your country is a shithole where nothing works. This will work in actual proper countries like Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and some parts of Europe, but not in 3rd world tier countries like most of the UK and USA
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>>136820708
I have to pick one
>let a filhty nigger flip my burgers
>let a terrorist muslim, who might spit in my burger to flip it
>let a illegal mexican flip my burgers
>let an drug using white trash single mom flip it

or

>let automated, perfect machine, flip my burgers always exactly the same

Damn, this is a tough choice
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>>136828953
How fucking stupid are you? Mexico is one of the most obese countries on the planet does that mean they're rich?
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BTW, is your hatred of Jews fueled by Christianity? The belief in a almighty imaginary friend because your scared of death?
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>>136821114
>niggers deserve $15 an hour
>that fucking nigger fucked up a simple order AGAIN
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>>136828226
I mean median, not average. But you could also go to buying a house too.

A house was about 23,000 in 1970. Income was about 6,000, so it was about 4 times your income. It was 290,000 average price for a house sold in 2015, or roughly 9.6 the 2015 real median personal income, which was about 30,000. You can do this for a bunch of other things too.
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>>136829038
Fuck off mccd shill i dontbgive a fuck about your profits.
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>>136820708
>replacing cashiers with automated touch-screen kiosks.
They already do this here in Austria, they use our market to test shit like that out all the time, pretty interesting it gets implemented large scale now.
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>>136828780
>>white people wont do the low skill jobs .... for the offered wage.
This! Because we have actual skills, if there is better work available, naturally we will take it. But if all the spics went away, we still want lettuce. Dropping supply would increase cost and wages until it established a new equilibrium with whites out there boxing up produce.
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>>136825027

>Fucking finally. I literally do all my ordering online for food now. I hate talking to people and specially niggers they never provide good service and get my order wrong all the time.

Yep this. I don't want leftists anywhere near my food anyway anymore. If it was decent hard working kids of middle class whites I'd make exceptions but I don't trust them to wash their hands etc. Hopefully they can automate the whole thing soon.
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If this means my order is more likely to be done right the first time, then I don't care how many blacks and hispanics this puts out of work.
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>>136828727
Yup. It would have been a nice side job for students who want to earn a little bit of extra cash. Instead, the retards want to enforce minimum wage laws, and now nobody gets to work there. It would certainly have still been cheaper to let people work there for 8 dollars an hour or something like that, and I'm sure many students would happily have done that for a few hours every day.

Finland doesn't have any kind of minimum wage laws, by the way.
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>>136829071
Nice stereotypes!
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>>136829071
>give more power to Corporations
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>>136828955
Burger King is way too greasy and oily here. Really contrasts with McDonalds' almost clinically clean burgers and patties I guess. I'd still take McDonalds because I feel sick after a Burger King because of all the grease.
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>>136821091
Good. Then we can make gibs contingent on norplant and vasectomies.
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>>136828953
Not an argument. You can become obese on peanut butter and cow hearts. It's a fact that people are earning less money, the middle class that is. The wealthy are becoming wealthier while the poor stay poor. It's pretty terrifying since we've demonized good, healthy public lynchings. Any other time period the masses would grab the power and reset the playing field. Now we're reaching an unique situation in which the rich could be both self-sufficient through automation and have their own mindless armies a.k.a. drones.
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>>136825699

>Indians are strong

/bizarropol/
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>>136821472
>I wait the extra time in line to avoid all self checkouts
i go to self checkout if there are only nigger/spic/obese white trash cashiers available. i use self checkout most of the time
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>>136821566
>3 generations
an optimist!
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>>136821578
like the rentier class?
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>>136829071
>Implying McDonalds actually cook their food.
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Aren't these all variations of the broken window argument? Pushing around money just makes the pushers richer and gives "industry experts" big GDP numbers, it doesn't actually help the economy.
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>>136820708
Lol wife just canned the entire thing on Trump. Told me Trump is responsible for McDonald doing this.
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>>136829237
Yes NO ONE SHOULD WORK FOR A COMPANY NOT PAYING ENOUGH.
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>>136829089
>How fucking stupid are you? Mexico is one of the most obese countries on the planet does that mean they're rich?
Mexico obesity rate: 32.1%
US obesity rate: 33.0%
So you're saying the US is more poor than Mexico? Or would you like to just shut the fuck up now before you embarrass yourself more?
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>>136829324
I wish a black guy knew you said that. So you go to the store, and get rightfully jumped.
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>>136829316
He's right though.
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>>136828877
Now who in the fuck is gonna trouble shoot the machines when they break? The people working there are mostly dindus with a token white guy to make sure they all act busy.
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>>136821578
You'll realize once another Great Depression hits.
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>>136829558
Nice racism. Do you enjoy washing your fathers Klan hood everyday?
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>>136829245
heres one more!
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>>136829475
Fuck off nigger
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>>136829496

Bullshit. The well off young Indians are weaklings bankrolled by mommy and daddy. They are saps and wimps.

And if we were to adopt their pussifed bone structure we would be weak too.
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>>136827898
Where I live in New York City is a conservative borough where the majority is white, conservative and middle class. The only ones on Medicaid for the most part are blacks and Spanish so yes the ones working are trying. I went to social security to get a card acouple days ago only me and one other person were there to get replacement cards, the room was 90% black and Spanish working age applying to disability.
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>>136822723

People need to get out of service industry and into capital labor.

Construction is capital labor, way better for growth. Illegals are being deported and raising wages. With more capex there are more opportunities for growth and wages. It is a boulder than can gain momentum being pushed "uphill".

Ideally taxes would be lowered to encourage growth, wages on shit jobs would be lowered and automated out to encourage profits and things can right themselves through the power of the market. Illegals must be removed from this system to keep companies from getting slave labor and to keep taxpayers from having to compete with people that can work for nearly free.

Leftists can't think about more than one thing at a time so they focus on immediate short term gain and pleasure like 15 dollar wages and pot. That's why they shouldn't be allowed near goverment. All these recent news items about the economy prove this out. They still think Obama is raising the economy for example.
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>>136829439
You have to be mentally handicapped. At no point did I say that Mexico is richer than the US. You're the one arguing like a Somali saying that being fat means you have good living standards.
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>>136829285
>because i can't choose where i go to eat, when i want junkfood
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>>136820708
Minimum wage cucks btfo. Man I can't wait for the self driving cars
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>>136829670
You share an American stereotype yet you agree with them...odd.
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>>136829654
Don't mix science with facts. It's unfair.
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>>136821402
So then will they pick the fruit liberals are currently saying we need illegals for? The "jobs Americans won't do"?
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>>136829672
Funny thing; I'm actually white.
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>>136826662
Kekek
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>>136829475
So you wish a nig would nig? Just go observe a hood grocery store at night, assuming they don't close before sundown.
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>>136820708
This is from november, can we get some current events?
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>>136820802
wew
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>>136829412
We're not even American!
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>>136829826
Sure you are jamal dont respond to me again nigger.
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>>136829853
I lived in a 'hood', funnily enough.
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>>136828226
>Did you even look at what I posted?
I refuted you. You don't seem to like the numbers I posted. I used hard data for 1970 and 2010 because those are both established and readily available.
Rent in 1970 was 1.7% of yearly income.
Rent in 2010 was 2% of yearly income.
CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER.
Also in 2010 you could carry around in your pocket a phone that was also a camera, tape recorder, library, video recorder, navigational aid, and video game console. The richest motherfucker on the planet couldn't have that in 1970, so stop telling me you're downtrodden.
Our poor's biggest health problem in modern America is that they get TOO MUCH FOOD.
Fuck you and your "we are all underpaid" leftist bullshit. Houses have gotten quite expensive, but they have also gotten quite large (1000 sq. ft. larger than in 1970), so who fucking cares?
STOP PRETENDING YOU'RE OPPRESSED.
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>>136821173
Don't make me get my rake.
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>>136829957
I'm a white guy, from one of the most racist states in the US. My mom and dad just raised me better. ;)
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>>136829775
Do i?
I'm from Finland, i have finnish opinions on things.
Still those claims fit. I would like to see robot turning my burgers instead of illegal immigrants (here those are syrian and other arab refugees)
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>>136829971
Neat, now just go observe the parking lot after hours. Problem solved.
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>>136829708
>At no point did I say that Mexico is richer than the US.
You said poverty causes obesity. Your proof YOUR PROOF was the Mexican obesity rate. But that fucking fell apart for you. So now you're pretending you never said it.
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>>136825359
But I am in a business that can't be automated. Maybe these retards should level up?
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>>136830115
>I'm a white guy, from one of the most racist states in the US. My mom and dad just raised me better. ;)
Kill yourself, you fat-ass nigger faggot spic kike tranny subhuman piece of shit.
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>>136829991
>muh smartphones

Holy fuck are you reaching. The important things, rent, reduction, healthcare, have all skyrocketed. Even if you're going yearly, rent was 20% of your yearly income im 1970. It was 40% in 2015. No where is rent 2% of your yearly income, or can you just not into math?
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>>136823614
> Drive to the store to get some groceries

> Hurr durr you just worked for free as a driver for that company

You see this? This is your argument. It is the equivalent of that art stunt of having shit in a can, but the shit is your words and the can is this thread. You just shat the thread.
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>>136830274
Only fat-ass was correct. White, straight, and atheist. ;)
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>>136820708
> You might not like burger flippers but with automation millions of people stand to lose their jobs and risk flinging our country into another great depression.
Nope. The oligarchs will just ask that they print more money for the consumers that would have been their employees.
Everything is about retaining public focus and brand loyalty now. Money does not matter.

The 21st century is already about tribalism. Which is why it is important to stand up for physical-social structures (like nations and borders) rather than mental-social structures like cultish specialization and parochialism. Being grounded in physical reality means you free your mind up to concider any posibility, rather than having to defend the pretexts that are created to defend the existence of the social group.

- Inside the social group you are free to think, say and do as you wish
- What are the conditions of being within the social group?
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>>136830135
Can you not read? Go back an reread my posts maybe you'll be able to decipher what I said. Poverty is correlated with obesity in the US, but tell where I made the logical leap that poverty causes obesity. I only used the example of Mexico because you said that being fat is proof that living standards aren't declining in the US.
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>>136830391
Tribalism????!!! Are you fuckin' nuts?
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>>136828693

>white people wont do the low skill jobs
>That is total bullshit. I don't know where everyone keeps getting that. I cleaned toilets for YEARS before I got my degree. Virtually everyone I worked with was white.
Who the fuck to liberals think picked our fruit in 1960? Do they think we all had slaves? Do they think every state had lots of non-whites around? White people do shit work just fine. Hell, it used to be a kind of rite of passage until kikes imported a million spics to take all that work away.

What's really going to happen is kids need to swallow their pride and work or starve.

Libshits are the ones pulling out all these arguments to why brown illegal wage slavery should be preserved and the absolute best one to hear out of their hypocritical retarded mouths is "I'm too good for those jobs" everyone that actually earned their money wasn't too good for any job I promise you.
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>>136821402
I agree with you. More homeless people on the streets now. More people doing illegal desperate things to feed themselves and their kids

And 15 bucks an hour should be minimum wage when a gallon of milk costs 5 dollars

I'm not liberal. I want people off welfare. This will add to the welfare problem
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>>136830350
>>136829991

Education* not reduction.

But let's do the math.

Average rent: $1000
Median personal income: $30,000
Yealy amount spent on rent: $1000 × 12 months = $12000

$12000/$30000 = 0.40 or 40%.

Do the same for 1970 and it's 0.20 or 20%.
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>>136830510
Mexicans picked your fruit in 1960. See the Bracero Program, first started in 1942.
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>>136827898
>100% unsourced pie chart plus DA MEDIA
you are a part of the problem
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>>136830510
Funny how you blame the US's problems on Jews and latinos, instead of taking a good hard look at yourself.
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>>136829098
Hates Jew's, better worship one


Are you retarded?
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>>136824699
>There is no dedicated cashier position in any place of employment
>not any place in the world
goddamn you're a dumb fucking idiot
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>>136830873
Where's he from? One of those countries that hate Israel? The same type of people who are in ISIS?
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>>136830350
Look, I can see you're really stupid, but try to follow along.
I'm assuming even you would agree that there were 12 months in a year in 1970 and in 2010, right? So it really doesn't matter if I compare monthly rents or yearly rents, does it, dumbass.
So I went with the direct data I looked up. You still with me faggot?
So in 1970, yearly income was $6186 and rent was $108 (per month, but who fucking cares as long as I'm consistent).
In 2010, yearly income was $41674 and rent was $855.
What we need to do now is compare the ratios of these numbers, right? Are you with me?
So 108/6186 is 1.7495%
And 855/41674 is 2.0516%
Those two ratios are very close. They will remain very close EVEN if we multiply both by 12, because this is a concept we all learned in third grade.
There has been a trivial 17% increase in rent relative to income. Stop pretending we are all destitute and can't afford food and clothing because of our rent. You're full of shit.
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>>136830674

So we still deport all illegals and cut legal immigration.

Oh noes, white kids have to get out in a field and get exercise instead of sitting in a carcinogen infested McDs in an urban retard environment.

They'll have to learn about family values and shit and live in the country. Oh noes.

Bracero:

>Moreover, Truman's Commission on Migratory Labor in 1951 disclosed that the presence of Mexican workers depressed the income of American farmers,

Oops guess we've been making stupid decisions to devalue American labor for a long time. We can fix that now. We're not bound to a tradition that's killing our country no matter how many leftist sniffles and abloo abloos it produces.
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>>136830873
Oh, and Nazi's give a bad name to logic.
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>>136830737
>I have no logical refutation of what you said, so I'll just throw a platitude at you instead.
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>>136829164
>that flag
No shill recycledbro. Just hate dealing with noskill nogs. Never a good experience.
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>>136831102
>cut legal immigration
They are Americans, you fuck!
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I'll be glad when they automate vehicles so we can get rid of buses, taxis, mailmen and truck drivers, but mostly to put an end to highway sprawl as all the truck stops and motels shut down. Most of the auto industry can go away too.

It won't effect me at all, but I'll be glad when we can get rid of all these useless jobs.
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>>136831102
I agree, after the minimum wage was increased and the program was ended farm worker wages went up. That needs to be done now.
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>>136831046
You ever open a book? Literally every civilization in human history that had contact with Jew's hated them, for almost 4 thousand years Jewish history has been about being expelled from different nations, surely it's not because every one of those empires were xenophobes is it?

I can see you are either new or baiting but seriously senpai
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>>136830737

>Funny how you blame the US's problems on Jews and latinos, instead of taking a good hard look at yourself.

Sure it's "myself" making the decisions to let corps get away with slave labor and not pay labor what it's worth.

It's "myself" that humors leftists that then turn around and make corps pay other people three times what they're worth.

Stay the fuck out of the market, that's advice from myself.

You think I hate brown people as individuals? No I hate leftists that give away everything in the country because they felt bad without ever thinking anything through. I hate white leftists more than any Mexican. The system isn't their fault, it's ours for allowing such abuse and ignoring of laws to come this far. They will get deported and leftism needs to be put back into kindergarten where it belongs and not the White House.
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>>136830609
>Average rent: $1000
>Median personal income: $30,000
Where are you getting this bullshit numbers?
Their rounded nature makes my suspect someone just made them up.
I'm getting mine here. As you can see, these are well-respected government data.
https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/census/historic/grossrents.html
https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/AWI.html
http://www.ipsr.ku.edu/ksdata/ksah/housing/4house10.pdf

So what is your source? DowntroddenLibtard.com?
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This whole thread is about advancing technology? No, our jobs! Let's keep things the way they are, and never improve!
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>>136831053
You're fucking retarded aren't you. The U.S Bureau of the Census has the annual real median personal income at $30,240 in 2015. You're using the wrong numbers.

And even then your numbers are wrong.
108×12/6200 = 20%

855×12/41674 = 25%

You can't jusy leave out the 12 you idiot. And it still shows that rent is increasing faster than wages.
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>>136831538
I round because it's easier.
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>>136831270
>They are Americans, you fuck!
No, shareblue, they are not. They are not Americans until we let them become Americans, and we don't have to do that.
If you disagree, give us your home address and we'll send some people over who want to live in your house and let's see if you welcome them with open arms or try to restrict the influx.
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shits lame, nobody checked whether this was true or not, there are posts going back to early 2016's with the same exact thing, word for word article.

old, fake news.

lame this thread went the length it did.
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>>136831405
No one's worth anything! Everyone should have equal opportunities!
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>>136831847
>Everyone should have equal opportunities!
Even dogs and cats?
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>>136831784
Well, if they need the better home, then it's a noble sacrifice.
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>>136831270

Anchor babies are also illegal btw.

Only babies born to two citizens should be American with some possible exception if a woman was raped by a Mexican.

If someone just steps over the border and she has a kid she's not under the jurisdiction of the US and has no right to citizenship, neither does her child. It's still a citizen of the country she is a citizen of.
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>>136831603
You aren't even trying to bait at this point, my interest is gone nigger
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