What is the alt-right's position on homosexuals? Are there

>>136640867

HOMOSEXUALS ARE DEGENERATE.

STOP SUCKING COCK OP.

The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. Start with yourself. You must be successful, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Are you capable of raising children? Racial politics doesn't have to be the only factor of your life. And if you can't achieve such things for your self, then the chances are very high that you are not ready to be a political activist, either online or in real life. Because how can you make a difference for the race, for the lives of many, if you can't even make anything of your own, individual life?

Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet do not. Things aren't as good for us as they were for our parents. But billions of people in the third world would still kill to have the opportunities that you do right now. So take care of yourself! Work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for you, and for your family. Spend your time wisely and keep your real life priorities in order. Work hard, but also do fun and wholesome things with real people in real life. That is very important. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life.

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the Alt-Right would die without its many, many gay members

>>136640867
What is the alt-right?

>>136640867
IDGAF about gays, but I do GAF about the whole BAKE ME A CAKE AND MARRY ME AND MY BUTT BUDDY shit.

Pre-1990's homos were just fine where they were. It all went off the rails when ACT UP came to be.

Also, Matthew Sheppard was a meth dealer and was killed for being a dealer, not for being gay. Biggest lie of the gay movement.

>>136640987
So, alt-right is ok with lgbt?

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>>136640867

>>136640867
a) alt-right is just a pejorative created by the MSM and utilized by (((richard spencer)))
claiming to be alt-right is falling into a trap of self incrimination and all should be advised against doing that
b)/pol/ is not media outlet, it is a forum for many different folks who have no knowledge of anyones personal information gather to shoot the shit and are not one person
c)the fundamental issue of homsexuality is the same with all forms of degeneracy, narcisism. the problem isn't where people put their dicks, it's that putting your dick in a mans butt becomes another way to indulge your ego and your penis. I don't care about two dudes giving it to each other, what I care about is the societhy that encourages all of us to be openly sexual and then puts us in a value hierarchy based on who/what we fuck, and homosexuals are the leading force in that cultural assault whether they know it or not

>>136640867
I am torn between movements. I am gay and Jewish so lots aren't going to like me no matter who I support.

I have changed my mind about gun control (used to favor it) in the past few years. I was sort of de-facto in favor of affirmative action and ignorant on race issues before and that's probably some of my more conservative opinions. I mean, honestly as a White gay I don't much care for Mestizo or African gays.

I still generally support gay marriage and am conflicted about whether I think it is useful to advocate at a federal level for amending the Civil Rights Act, either judicially or legislatively, to include sexual orientation as a protected class.

I think conflating gender identity with sexual orientation is going to make progress a lot slower in that arena. It seems like a lot of this resistance is from evangelical Christians, and while I have nothing against them, I certainly mind being thought of as sinful or less than for traits I have no control over. It is easy for people to think I can control what they don't have to deal with.

I support abortion, and I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but am generally against it. I don't really fit with any one political party but I feel due to my views on race and immigration I have been pushed closer to the Republicans than the Democrats. I honestly hope they dissolve and we get politics more suited to the mindset of the current under 40 crowd.

>>136642008
The old word we used was fascists, nazis, traitors

>>136642643
lurking here i noticed that some alt-right leaders are definitely gay, and the alt-right defends them because their contributions to the movement are quality -- so they are judged by their contribution, not by their sexuality.

I wish they would just keep to themselves.
The hyperdegenerate pride stuff makes me want to buy a truck.

>>136641587
No, in fact gay members of the AltRight are required to say they will voluntarily allow themselves to be sentenced to death in our future regime.

>>136643054
I wish that were true but I don't think we are there yet as a society.

>>136643054
I mean hitler was a closeted fag
these racial-purity-demi-jews have always been accepting of deviancy, they suffer from the same root problem: narcissism

homosexuality is fine as a sexual orientation but as a lifestyle is peak degeneracy
there's absolute nothing wrong with having a monogamous homosexual relationship; slutting around as a faggot is fucking disgraceful and all offenders should be purged

>>136640867
Kinsey 5. Fuck you. I'll think what I want. I'll post where I want, and I've fucked your mum.

>>136640867
If you keep your sexual life behind closed doors and don't shout it around d everywhere why would anyone e care so long as you don't do anything illegal, criminal or massively outrageous against human nature(pedos)that pretty much everyone knows is wrong.

>>136640867
homos shouldn't be allowed to marry but there should be no laws against it.
"trans" people should be put into mental hospitals to get the help they need.

>>136645221
God will you please fuck off already. I don't make a point that I'm gay but I let people know if I am friends with them or close to them in any way. Straight people are not held to the same standards by you and it is fucking annoying.

Gay people don't have some unspoken moral obligation to hide who we are any more than straight people do about their sexuality.

>>136645953
And yet, your opinion doesn't matter and gays can marry in Ireland.

>>136640867
I don't care. Jews and non-whites are the most dangerous

>>136640971
This.
The homosexual agenda will come to and end.

>>136645959
Yes they do. You are a subverted of society and if you want to be degenerate do it behind closed doors, do not expose young people to your filth.

>>136640867
Gays and traps are fine unless they are threatening you with prosecution for expressing your opinion on homosexuality. In simple words, they own their assholes and can fuck the way they want. We own our mouth and can say what we want.

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>>136640867
Day of the whip faggots, day of the whip

>>136640867
I wanted to offer a thought to /pol/ regarding homosexuals.If said homosexual is tall,clearly of white stock,handsome,intelligent and has some talents why not have a offspring requirement? Have a five child minimum for him to make shore up white numbers. Ugly fags with poop fetishes get the gas. Keep the handsome smart ones for the good genes.

>>136640867

Don't give a shit how consenting adults choose to live their lives so long as they don't push their fetishes or mental illnesses on children or force others to accept their behavior.

The activist-left has created a monster that demands acceptance and approval when they should have stopped at tolerance.

Now we're all fucked.

>>136640867
There's no such thing as the "Alt-Right®". It's a horseshit label coined to stigmatize anyone who doesn't fall for progressive kike bullshit, and it has a strawman leader meant to divide and conquer the demographics responsible for the political shift that just robbed globalists of their power and influence. His name is Richard Spencer and he's controlled opposition.

Now that that's out of the way, go back to fucking Plebbit, faggot.

>>136646307
Young gay people deserve positive role models so they know how to act. That cannot be accomplished without publicizing openly gay people.

>>136640867
>the alt right is full of virgins and homosexuals!
I wonder who could be behind this post...?

>>136642643
The evangelical Christians, while annoying, won't kill you. The resistance you speak of ultimately isn't fueled by them (or by the need to appease them). Think again.

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>>136640867
LGBTQ = Let God Burn Them Quickly

Roses are red
violets are blue
God hates fags
and so should you.

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>>136646938
Muslims won't kill me either at 1% strength but evangelicals are going to work much harder, and have much more clout, to reduce my freedoms and rights.

Yes, Muslims have more extreme behaviors towards gays in developing countries but here in the United States, evangelical Christians are the much bigger concern for anti-gay activism.

>>136640867
I'm fine with the LGB part as long as they keep it to themselves but Ts are insufferable cunts

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>>136647120
No
Romans 1:26-32

>>136640867
Faggots get to join the Navy or die.

>>136647279
I'm not religious my man. In fact the whole reason I'm in this boat is because I can't criticize islam but other religions are fair game for some reason

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>>136640867
No one is completely sorted out, and many of them were raped as children.

We don't really know how to "fix" homosexuality anyway (given how leftist psychology is). So let's welcome them and push them to be better.

They also tend to have less to lose, and have more free time, so they can be very effective advocates.

As long as they're not pushing genderqueer otherkin bullshit.

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>>136647346
It's not gay if you're underway....
Or so they say.

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i don't know much about richard spencer desu, but the one thing i've noticed is that people constantly post pictures of him and laugh. why is it that his head such a strange shape? it's like an egg shape. is this some kind of genetic disorder or is it because of his fashy haircut he gets? im not laughing, im just genuinely curious.

>>136641265
I get that. Most of the other gays I know hate the "scene" and idpol surrounding it.

As far as "pre-90s gays" you have to remember that they got fucked over by the aids epidemic and whatnot. For a short time the movement hit a wall.

>>136640867
>the alt-right
Just go away, you subversive cuck

>>136646577
There is no such thing as a positive gay role model

>>136640867
general concensus is nobodys gonna give you shit if you keep it quiet(ish)

... but its still degenerate and you should cure yourself (nofap, maybe test injections?)

>>136646414
they are cute together

>>136640867

I'm homosexual and believe in national socialism. No poz, no hookup culture, etc. Don't really give a shit if either the gay or the alt-right 'communities' have a problem with it lol.

>>136640867
kinsey scale is the only correct way

>>136640867
off of rooftops we shall throw
or into the bog they all will go

>>136649390
This

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>>136640867
Homos are fine; faggots are not. Making it your entire identity means you're an inferior person.

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>>136651102
>homos are fine

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>>136640867
Personally I don't care what people do in private (I'm bi)
But the fags who do pride festivals get pic related

>>136640867
>nymous (ID: CGcFrQEw) 08/09/17(Wed)02:12:47 No.136647074▶
>File: ima
Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.

>>136640867
first of all, fuck off you fucking retard.

secondly, faggots are not welcome.

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The following replies tell me that the alt-right is ok with homos in the movement. Seems like the majority of replies ITT.
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>>136651954
IGNORE SODOMITE ORDERS

>>136647086
How are they a concern? They don't have any real power. They don't have the media on their side, for one. When was the last time an evangelical Christian threw a gay person from a rooftop?

If they were as powerful and insidious as you seem to believe they are, they'd be doing stuff like that already, yes?

I'm a lesbian and I couldn't give a fuck about 'anti-gay activism'. Because it doesn't exist outside of jokes like the Westboro Baptist Church, who have about 3 members and don't do shit apart from annoying people at events. Stuff like that gets shut down. Your disingenuity is showing, Shlomo.

Is there really any difference between a gay man and a straight man who isn't going to have children?

>>136653353
straight men don't stick their dicks in literal shit

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>>136653404
>Straight men are incapable of anal sex with a woman

>>136641147
Nazis.

>>136641587
I think white skin is the only thing they care about.

>>136653589
where do you think they get the idea?

>>136653722
Probably because buttholes are tight and men like sticking their penises in places.

>>136653486
This. I normally don't care about homosexuality, but anyone that goes to a pride parade needs to be ovened. Stripping in front of children is pedophilia and degenerate.

>>136653814
Pussies were literally made for dick.

KYS fag

>>136653814
so you don't think the fetishization of the anus has anything to do with homos?

>>136654144
What's your point? Sticking your penis anywhere but a vagina is degenerate? I hope you don't masturbate, anon...
>>136654158
People have been having buttsex since the dawn of man. All sorts of sexual behaviors have become more accepted in society, like bondage and cuckolding and other weird shit, wouldn't say it's because of homos, but just liberal society in general.

>>136640867
>Homosexual
No such thing. The term "sex" refers to a biological act between 2 living organisms that results in offspring. What faggots do is not sex but mutual masturbation. Their sterile lifestyle is not a valid "sexuality" but a fetish, no different from the kind of fetish that afflicts furrys.

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>>136655365
>no such thing as alt-right
>no such thing as homosexual
This is the weakest taqqiya ever.

>>136655569
There are no homosexuals. Only faggots with fetishes.

>>136655365
Their sterile lifestyle

The proper term is 'deathstyle'

>>136655656
homo sexual means "same sexual", ie, sexual interest in the same sex. Faggot = homosexual. You've made the lamest attempt at a semantic argument I've ever seen. You might as well be arguing that white people don't exist.

>>136654800
Just because people have vices doesn't mean we have to celebrate them. People have been abusing alcohol for centuries. People have been raping each other for probably longer than there have been "people". Murder, pedophilia, incest, thievery, rape, etc are all things we've been doing forever. It's just not celebrated.

>>136652803
Evangelicals may not kill us but they have fought us gaining rights every step of the way and can still deny us service, housing, and fire us from our jobs in many states.

They are by-and-large not gay-friendly, and pointedly less so than Muslims, despite popular opinion on here.

It may not happen in NYC but evangelicals make life hell for gays in other places, or at least try to.

>>136656420
Of course it shouldn't be celebrated, because it's obnoxious as fuck. People who make their sexuality their whole personality are shallow idiots. I don't really think homosexuality is a vice since people can't control what they're attracted to.

My original point is that I don't see the difference between being gay and being a straight man who doesn't procreate. I don't think either of them should be celebrated because it isn't a positive thing, it's just a thing.

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>>136657053
>its not a vice if its involuntary
If it walks like a vice, and talks like a vice -- mental illness has the same end results as any vice. All addictions, for example, begin as choices, and end as involuntary compulsions. Many homosexuals are probably attracted to the same sex because they were raped or abused by the same sex, and it's a mental illness induced through sexual abuse. It doesn't excuse it as a destructive trait, compulsion, or inclination.

>>136655799
You cannot have a "Sexual" interest in the same sex. That's not how sex works. You need opposite sexes in order to engage in sexual reproduction.
The very idea that 2 men can engage in "sexual" acts is high order Jewry designed to separate the concept of sex and reproduction in the mind when they are in fact the same thing. By using (((their))) language you are unconsciously validating the idea that 2 men destroying each others' anuses for fun is fundamentally the same as the healthy and natural act we are programmed to do in order to reproduce.
The entire problem is the separation of sex, the Primordial Act necessary for the continuation of life itself, from """"sex""""", the Shallow Chemical Release that results from orgasm, which is in fact, nothing more than masturbation.
It's not a semantic argument, it's a rejection of your fundamental misunderstanding of life.

We oppose it.
We should try to cure it.
Its not normal. Its nothing benefital.
In fact homosexuality and the other even worse stuff comes with extremly negative consequences both physically and mentally. Also they cant produce the most precious things: kids.
Ban public propaganda for it and acts of it in public.

>>136657053
>people can't control what they're attracted to.
well that's just not true. this entire site is proof of that. look how many people developed weird fetishes for hentai, furfaggotry, traps, etc after too much time engaging in degenerate porn

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REMOVE SODOMITE

DEUS VULT
or should I say, DEUS VOLT

>>136657549
>You cannot have a "Sexual" interest in the same sex
I understand your argument, that because you can't successfully reproduce with the same sex, it is therefore not a "sexual" interest -- but what makes your argument a fallacy is that this precludes the possibility that one's impulses can malfunction or be directed wrongly, and we know that homosexuality is a malfunction of the organism with respect to which sex it should feel attraction toward.

>>136640867
>boy, I'm not sure what to think of homosexuality
>let me just ask the shills of /pol/ real quick to tell me what to think instead of forming my own opinion

>>136658059
>I'm not sure what to think of homosexuality
I know exactly what to think, I asked what the alt-right thinks, you fucking retard. Its the simplest most straightforward question ever, and you still fucked it up. Or are you just trying too hard to sound edgy and contrarian?

>>136657488
You want to actually treat people who are homosexual? That's fine, I think a lot of gays, myself included, would choose to be heterosexual if we could. If it truly is a mental illness I don't understand why so many people have hate for gay people. If you wouldn't hate someone for being schizophrenic then you shouldn't hate someone for being gay either. If compassionate treatment is really what you want, then I have no problem with that.

>>136657722
You're right in that you can develop an attraction, but I don't know if you can deprogram yourself from it after you develop it. Maybe some day science will figure out a way.

>>136657053
>>136657488
I never wanted to be an alcoholic, guess it's not a vice if it's involuntary

>>136657801
Malfunctioning impulses doesn't make it sex.

If someone's brain malfunctioned and they tried to eat food by shoving it up their ass would that be considered "eating"? I'm not trying to get into an argument about this. I just want people to be aware that they are using language that implicitly validates the LGBT agenda.

>>136658199
Why do you care what the alt-right thinks?>>136658199

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>>136657795
>current year+1
>still worshiping rabbi yeshua ben yosef

>>136658208
You might be able to overcome through meditation

>>136658335

Either way, the real problem (And I am a homosexual) is not homosexuality. It's this bullshit about how being gay is a lifestyle that requires validation and acceptance and stuff, coupled with hedonism. That's why you have bug chasers, that's why you have guys shooting up meth and fucking for hours, that's why you have pride parades. All of it sucks from my perspective.

If it were up to me and I could control the rest of the gays, I'd say live and let live. Stop bothering people, stop having stupid parades, stop the ridiculous hookup culture and drug use.

The sort of guy I am, you'd never know I was a fag unless I told you. I don't even have much to do with the gay 'community' at all, almost all my buds are straight guys. I prefer it that way since there's no sexual tension ever. I respect boundaries absolutely, so I can just hang out and be one of the guys, have some beers, go to the range, etc. The rest of the gays need to stop acting like women and degenerates and go back to being normal human beings.

>>136658208
>If it truly is a mental illness I don't understand why so many people have hate for gay people
The same reason you hate anything that disgusts you, especially when it organizes politically to obsessively overthrow everything traditional and normative about society, religion, and social institutions, while suppressing any impulse in scientific research to treat it as a mental illness and research a cure.

>>136658257
>I never wanted to be an alcoholic
You made yourself an alcoholic by putting alcohol in your face.

>>136658335
>Malfunctioning impulses doesn't make it sex.
Ok look, eating sand doesn't mean you aren't hungry because you ate something non-nutritious. Feeling thirsty for bevrages that dehydrate you doesn't mean you weren't thirsty. Feeling a desire to reproduce with something that will result in failure doesn't mean it wasn't a desire to do something that generally results in reproduction when successful. This is the concept of success and failure, which any urge such as the one we're discussing, would break down into.

If I follow your logic, then its impossible to speak of pathology at all. There is no such thing as disease or malfunction of the organism, because all malfunctions aren't actually part of the organism once they fail. By this ipso facto logic, attempted murder is not homicidal, because it doesn't result in homicide. Firing a nuclear missile at Japan is not an act of war by North Korea so long as they miss, and so on.

Stop being fucking autistic.

>>136658460
Curiosity, fuck off if it triggers you so much. Go hugbox in another thread.

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>>136640867
Keep it to yourself and no one will give a shit.

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IGNORE SODOMITE ORDERS

Bisexual right wing conservative here..
Is your question answered?

>>136640867
homosexuals must die, and no my religion doesn't tell me that, im atheist and homosexuals are birth defect that must be erased

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>>136640867
http://ropeculture.org/2016/03/01/the-fag-agenda/

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>>136659423
Will you kill the straight men who carry our gene too?

http://chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

>>136640971
Doing God's work.

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>>136661167
>hypothetical gene
Still no evidence for a "homosexuality gene".

>>136658208
You can overcome, you just have to focus on pure things.

>>136661283
Well there is some evidence for a an androgen receptor at XQ28 and another study found evidence at Chromosome 8. True, we don't know the exact gene but we see certain genes in higher frequency in gay people, specifically a concordance of those genes in identical gay twins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGEA11

>>136662044
http://www.nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

>>136662058
This explains why when one identical twin is gay the other isn't necessarily. Still, identical twins have concordance rates of 20 to 50% indicating a clear genetic basis for homosexuality.

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Dicky Spencer is OK with sodomites and thinks they should be left alone

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>>136662115
>a clear genetic basis for homosexuality
Loaded phrase; everything about an organism has a genetic basis. You're specifically speaking of genes that "cause" homosexual behavior, and there's an agenda or interest in doing so. There's far more evidence for homosexuality being induced than there is for an exclusively "i have the gene, it's beyond my control" -- which is obviously a tempting narrative for a lot of gays. Everyone wants to pretend its not mental illness or a choice, to completely remove the moral dimension from it. Pedophiles want to do the same, trannies want to do the same... besides, the correlation between abuse and adult homosexuality is profound. It's premature and motivated reasoning to be looking for an excuse to say "see, I'm the victim of biology here".

>Abused "More Likely to Be Gay"
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3949087/Abused-more-likely-to-be-gay

https://youtu.be/gXGlawiibK8
https://youtu.be/BPgq1c4TYi4

>>136664142
>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3949087/Abused-more-likely-to-be-gay

Correlation does not imply causation.

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

>>136664232
>Correlation does not imply causation.
That's a popular internet fallacy, but in actual practice, the more instances of correlation are observed, the greater the probability that a relationship exists between two observable things -- possibly even a cause and effect relationship. "Imply" is actually a terrible choice of words, because what you want to say is something more like:
>"correlation does not necessitate causation"
In reality, if every time you use the toilet, there's piss on the floor immediately after, its highly likely you pissed on the floor. Most of reality functions this way, with things happening in tandem having a meaningful relationship.

>>136640867

I'm bi, really too old to start a family responsibly as well.

I don't know why /pol/ can't see why it's useful to have a sliver of the population who can take risks without having to think about it's impact on a family. There are truly few gay men and they don't rub off on straight men.

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>>136640987
Indeed

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>>136664795
>they don't rub off on straight men
Gay men are almost single handedly responsible for the AIDS epidemic. You are one of the main groups working in support of cultural marxism and other subversive movements. To pretend otherwise is insane, you're asking people "who are you gonna believe, your own lying eyes..."

There are good reasons you aren't trusted as a member of that group.

>>136664747
Many gay people were not abused as kids and your lackluster theories do not account for this. Meanwhile there are heaps of evidence to a genetic basis for homosexuality, not merely one triggered by abuse, that you willfully ignore.

I know getting abused making you gay would be super convenient for the Christian perspective but it just is not true:

The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS) 1.51% of the population of the US identify as GLBT, whereas other studies put this figure as high as 8% (Fay et al, 1989). However, statistics for people abused in childhood are significantly higher that this, with reliable estimates given for child sexual abuse to be 16% for males and 27% for females in the USA (NRCCSA, 1994).

Therefore, if there is a causal link between childhood sexual abuse and identifying as GLBT later in life, then why aren’t the figures for the number of GLBT people in the population reflected by the abuse statistics? There are significantly more cases of sexual abuse than there are people that identify as GLBT (Macmillan, 1997), and furthermore, the vast majority of persons sexually abused as children are heterosexual (Keith, 1991).

In addition to this, virtually all statistics agree that females are more likely to be sexually abused in childhood than males are - and yet, and yet there are proportionally more men that identify as being gay than there are women who identify as lesbian (Hite, 1991; Janus, 1993, Jefferson, 2001).

http://www.pandys.org/articles/abuseandhomosexuality.html

>>136640867

whatever donald trump says on that day

>he's the most inclusive and lgbt friendly president in decades, why can't you libs understand this

>oh yeah oops he's rolling back lgbt harassment protections in schools and banning transgender soldiers big deal kill yourself degenerates

>>136665148
>Many gay people were not abused as kids and your lackluster theories do not account for this
No, you're strawmanning. What I said was that there is a stronger correlation between child sexual abuse and adult homosexuality; I didn't say:
>all gays were molested
Nor did I say that there wasn't ANY genetic component to homosexuality; of course, if there are genes that CORRELATE by occuring in higher frequency among adult gays, then it suggests there is a probability of a genetic component, perhaps a heightened suceptibility to "being turned" -- a possibility your exclusive favor for a genetic explanation doesn't take into account.

What you've tried accusing me of, you're more guilty of in this conversation (ie, arguing genes have strong correlation than implying correlation is irrelevant when i say abuse has a stronger correlation). At least be consistent in your logic.

>>136664795

>I don't know why /pol/ can't see why it's useful to have a sliver of the population who can take risks without having to think about it's impact on a family. There are truly few gay men and they don't rub off on straight men.

It wouldn't matter if there weren't a whole quasi religious political wing pushing a big rainbow dildo down everyone's throat in every layer of social strata right now: media, law, employment, education etc to ages young as five years old now. http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/25/minnesota-parents-sue-to-get-trans-classes-in-kindergarten/

/pol/ is just reflective of society's backlash against that push which has gone too far. "live and let live" is not something the left actually wants anymore but instead total domination with mental illness at the top of the hierarchy.

>>136665424
It doesn't suggest anything more than that gays are more vulnerable to abuse at kids. Implying a causal link to homosexuality is logically fallacious.

>>136665386

Oh fucking well.

"Demographics won't change as the result of this immigration"

"They just want to live their lives and have the same rights as others why can't you understand"

>oh yeah oops they actually want to indoctrinate kids into this madness of cutting your dick off first through chemical castration then physical

http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/25/minnesota-parents-sue-to-get-trans-classes-in-kindergarten/

Kill yourself degenerate

>>136665683
>Implying a causal link to homosexuality is logically fallacious.
Your "guess" that there's a gay gene is even more tenuous of a correlation. Why is that making you fumble here?

>>136665851
I am not stating for sure that there is a causal link.

Biological evidence tied to homosexuality is far more compelling than some wacky theory that abuse triggers homosexuality that has ZERO basis in biology and that you have no evidence for.

>>136665986
>I am not stating for sure that there is a causal link.
Neither of us are, either way, obviously. If we could make that kind of statement at this point, we probably wouldn't find much interest in this discussion. But such matters aren't explained.
>biological evidence is more compelling
Because it excuses you: you don't have to deal with the stigma of mental illness, and you don't have to think of it as a choice or a path you went down. Everyone wants to be "born this way" when its something problematic.

>>136640867
>2 is gayer than 3.
Please explain.

Sodomites go in the bog

>>136666082
>newfag violating global 7
you're cancer faggot, this board isn't your fucking hugbox

>>136666162
But it literally is born this way. There is no evidence that being gay is anything besides fixed at birth.

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>>136640867
>tfw agree with the alt-right on the majority of issues
>tfw can't stop fantasizing about men

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>>136666990
>There is no evidence that being gay is anything besides fixed at birth.
I just got done sharing sources for evidence to that effect, then we had a discussion on how there's no correlation without causation, and how there's more correlation between abuse and adult homosexuality than there is for a purely genetic cause. Then I said: a biological cause is appealing but it excuses a problematic identity from the stigma of mental illness, and it frees the community from the stigma of child abuse. Biology is an appealing way off the hook for something that's problematic.

>>136667242
Again, all you have is anecdotal evidence.

>>136640867
Whatever pisses you off more.

>>136667242
Its not about it being appealing, its about it being accurate.

How many years are you going to continue posting this story as if it is an indictment of all gay men?

Conflating homosexuality with pedophilia, implying that abuse causes it, all well worn tricks of evangelical Christianity, but none based in any sort of research or biology.

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>>136667112
If you can keep it to yourself, literally and figuratively, it doesn't matter.

If you can't...
>pic

>>136667498
>anecdotal
lol no, I posted the results of a survey, I posted the rates of child abusers being gay and their victims being male (nearly 90%), etc. Homosexuals report being victims of child sexual abuse at a rate 3 times greater than heterosexuals. Homosexuals are 15 x MORE LIKELY to be pedophiles than hetero men:
>33.3% of the victims of paedophilia are boys and 66.7% are girls.
>3% of the male population are homosexual and 97% are heterosexual.
>98% of paedophiles are male and 2% are female.
Since 98% of the perpetrators are male, at least 31.3% of all paedophilia is male on male. So 3% of men (homosexuals) carry out 31.3% of the child abuse and 97% of men (heterosexuals) carry out 66.7% of the child abuse and women carry out 2% of it.
So the chances of a homosexual male being an abuser are 31.3/3 times more than average, whereas the chances of a heterosexual male being an abuser are 66.7/97 times the average (i.e. less than the average). So the chances of a heterosexual male being an abuser are 31.3/3 x 97/66.7 = 15.17 more than the chances of a heterosexual male being an abuser. So a boy placed in the care of male homosexual parents is 30x more likely to be a victim of pedophila:
>"Pedophiles are subdivided into several classifications. One of the first distinctions made when classifying pedophiles is to determine whether they are “exclusively” attracted to children (exclusive pedophile) or attracted to adults as well as children (nonexclusive pedophile). In a study by Abel and Harlow of 2429 adult male pedophiles, only 7% identified themselves as exclusively sexually attracted to children, which confirms the general view that most pedophiles are part of the nonexclusive group."
Source:
>A Profile of Pedophilia: Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism, Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues RYAN C. W. HALL, MD, AND RICHARD C. W. HALL, MD, PA Mayo Clin Proc. 2007;82(4):457-471 page 459.

>>136667607
>Its not about it being appealing, its about it being accurate.
You're deliberately picking the explanation with least chance of being accurate, so you're motivated by something, eh?

>>136668169
What survey?

Child abusers being gay? As in child abusers who abuse males are assumed to be gay?

Nonsense:

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts%5Fmolestation.html

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>>136669215
>males who rape males aren't gay

>>136669640
>http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts%5Fmolestation.html
One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment.

>>136640867
Keep it in the closet. Do not expect special treatment.
Overt displays of faggotry should be punished. Other than that, I'm not inclined to autistically monitor every home for fags.

>>136669729
Some typologies of child molesters divide the fixation-regression distinction into multiple categories, and some include additional categories as well (e.g., Knight, 1989).

For the present discussion, the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.

Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180).

>>136669781
Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% of cases in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994).
In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989).

>>136669805

In a later literature review, Dr. Nathaniel McConaghy (1998) similarly cautioned against confusing homosexuality with pedophilia. He noted, "The man who offends against prepubertal or immediately postpubertal boys is typically not sexually interested in older men or in women" (p. 259).

This well known lack of a linkage between homosexuality and child molestation accounts for why relatively little research has directly addressed the issue. For example, a 1998 comprehensive review of published empirical research on the sexual abuse of boys reported only one study (the 1994 study by Jenny and colleagues, cited above) that included data about the self-reported sexual orientation of perpetrators (Holmes & Slap, 1998).

Proving something that is already widely known simply isn't a priority for scientists. Indeed, a commentary that accompanied publication of the study by Jenny et al. in Pediatrics noted that debates about gay people as molesters "have little to do with everyday child abuse" and lamented that they distract lawmakers and the public from dealing with the real problem of children's sexual mistreatment (Krugman, 1994).

>>136669845
Freund et al. (1989). Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and erotic age preference. Journal of Sex Research, 26, 107-117.
This article is discussed above in the "Other Approaches" section. As the FRC concedes, it contradicts their argument. The abstract summarizes the authors' conclusion: "Findings indicate that homosexual males who preferred mature partners responded no more to male children than heterosexual males who preferred mature partners responded to female children."

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>>136669805
>>136669845
>>136669894
tl;dr, I'll repeat it for you:
>you have a weaker correlation with respect to your "gay gene" candidates than you do between child abuse and adult homosexuality, and between homosexuality and pedophilia.
You can spray studies at me all night, and I can spray studies at you. It doesn't change the fact that you favor a weaker correlation out of a choice of two explanation, neither of which are mutually exclusive.

Your logic is inconsistent, because your reasoning is motivated.

>>136672111
And you are free of any sort of agenda?

>>136672111
Well what the fuck do you want to do about it? Put cameras in people's bedrooms? Would you literally start going out and dragging people into the streets for suspected homosexuality in Stalin-esque witch hunts?

>>136665054

>You are one of the main groups working in support of cultural marxism and other subversive movements.

I'm not, so I don't know what you're talking about. In numbers, there are more straight white males doing that.

>Gay men are almost single handedly responsible for the AIDS epidemic.

People who practice unsafe sex are. Your argument makes no sense, anyways. If it's killing gay people, why do you care? If it's killing straight people, it's their fault for contracting a disease that's been preventable since the mid-80s.

>>136665575

>It wouldn't matter if there weren't a whole quasi religious political wing pushing a big rainbow dildo down everyone's throat in every layer of social strata right now

And /pol/ thinks that attacking gay right-wingers will make that *stop*?

>"live and let live" is not something the left actually wants anymore

Which is why I'm not left. Is it something that you want?

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as long as you love your race thats all that matters to me im a old fag alt righter

>>136640867
The real Alt Right wouldn't associate with gay and lesbian animals you stupid fuck. They're degenerates that must be removed.

>>136640867
There is no alt-right, just people who want to make a buck

>>136676108
the real alt right acceps gays that love the white race

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>>136676012
>old fag alt righter

>>136640867
Fags can get into my oven ;^)

>>136640867
>making a webm out of something that can easily be a gif
the fuck?

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>>136676391
why should we lose lowering corporate taxes because your scared of gays they dont bother richerd spencer

>>136676665
sorry meant to say the ethnostate not taxes

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>>136676251
No they don't you disgusting kike loving cock sucking cum guzzling faggot. Gay people are inherently against the white race. They cannot procreate and they influence more to join their filthy cause.
>MUH FASHWAVE
>MUH LGBT FASHIES
Next you'll say you're not a faggot, faggot.

>>136676713
Ethnostates will never happen you fell for the fash meme good job you imbecile.

Faggot here, I personally agree with a lot of shit the alt right thinks. I fucking hate most queers because they're so "special" and shit like that. I wouldn't mind if gay marriage was revoked either because that shit is not at all necessary. keep up the good work fellow degenerates

>>136679666
You've heard it here first folks, Satan is homosexual.

>>136656424
The muzzies that would throw you off a rooftop versus the westboro baptist church that would get holocausted if they even touched a gay person? Fuck off you delusional commie faggot. This is coming from an exmuslim