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How are athiests wrong if they statistically have very higher IQs than all religions of the world?
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>>136589105
I would be comfortable saying that that group of people might be collectively bad at sports

i could make other blanket statements about highly intelligent people, like they aren't very spiritual, thereby explaining a collective distaste with reigion
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>>136589105
homos also have a higher IQ than normal people.

People who are deviant tend to have higher IQs to override evolutionary/societal conditioning. Heidegger had an IQ of 180 btw but I'm sure you can find leftist philosophers with a high IQ also. High IQ != True
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>>136589307

that's literally false

also I'd also suspect Hindus would up there with jews and episcopalians
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>>136589105
Agnostic master race reporting. The only thing I know with any degree of certainty is that I know very little at all.
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>>136589923
the only prudent answer. all else involves faith
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>>136589105
brap
also sauce?
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>>136589105
High IQ =\= workable solutions or results.

Just because someone has a high IQ doesn't automatically mean they have good horse sense, real world skills and talents, or a basic understanding of life as it is.
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>>136589105
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>>136589105
Any nudes of her?
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>>136589105
They don't comprehend religion.
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>>136589105
"1 post by this ID"
Fuck off, ShariaBlue shill.
Sage this slide thread.
Hi, NSA!
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>>136590292

its art please no ban
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>>136589105
>very higher
Apparently atheists have very higher amount of typos in their posts.
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>>136590358
You have literally 0 evidence to prove that your magical sky daddy exists.
Prove me wrong
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>>136589105
Wrong. Atheism has the highest frequency at a deviation from mean, that is, highest and lowest.

Try harder.
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>>136590649
dude faith lmao
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flat earth 200 proofs -dubay
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>>136590649
>evidence
>exist

Actual theologians don't claim he exists, or he can be proven.
They claim he is true, and has to be believed. There is a difference.
Exist = physics. True = metaphysics. Know = prove. Believe = faith.
God is thus as real as courage, for example. How much does courage weigh? What atoms is it made of? Does it float? But you know its real, and you can tell its presence from its absence.

I'm an atheist by the way, just playing devil's advocate here, since there are actual okay arguments that religious people can bring, its just that most retards on /pol/ aren't aware of them.

>>136590730
Ayyyy exactly.
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>>136589105
White atheists have a birthrate of ~1.0
White christians have a birthrate of ~2.2

They are wrong because they are dysgenic and literally breeding themselves out of existence.
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>>136589105
If by being wrong you mean that god doesn't exist then no, they probably aren't wrong. But being an atheist doesn't mean you think an atheistic society would be beneficial, or that you disregard Christianity and think that it has no utility in the West. I myself lack a belief in God but I still recognize that without a basis for morality a society crumbles, and that most of my moral values ultimately derive from Christianity. There's also the issue with an atheistic society ultimately becoming morally relativistic and inviting a foreign host and becomes replaced by one that is morally absolute (i.e Western morally relativistic societies being replaced by Islamic values). In light of all this I consider myself an atheist christian, or a cultural christian.
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>>136590730
Ha ha, atheists forever BTFO how will they ever recover ? Remember, white man, be a cuck like Jesus.
Do only good deeds to everyone including niggers and never retaliate else you won't get 99 virgins. Or was that Islam ? Who gives a fuck, they borrow so much from each other it's not even fun.
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>>136589105
Ahem, what was the question?

Brb, I need to go to the bathroom for a few minutes.
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>>136590981
What about something like Confucianism or Taoism?
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>>136590448
Imagine being banned for posting a picture of heaven.
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>>136589923
Link to that test??
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Nature doesn't work that way. I know it's a meme but you can be too smart for your own good. You can create new problems for yourself and thinking about life harder can mean more depression.

Also, an animal who is very intelligent is still in competition with more numerous dumber animals for the same resources.

This coming from an atheist.
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>>136590879
>since there are actual okay arguments that religious people can bring
No there aren't. God either exists or he doesn't, that's all there is to it. Up until now no religion has managed to prove that their sky daddy is real cause they're all made up bullshit, what a surprise.
If you want to play semantics and do mental gymnastics go to /x/.
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>>136589923
Never mind... I'm an idiot (URL at top)
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>>136591461
You already failed...
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>>136591352
http://test.mensa.no
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>>136589105
nice video. would happy make many babies with.
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>>136590448
Wheatfields
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>>136590981
>I consider myself an atheist christian
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>>136591577
last time I took this test (it was posted on pol) I got 125. should I just KMS?
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>>136591372
Positing that god exists (I want to believe that he does) tells us nothing of his nature. Pretending we can fathom an omnipotent, omniscient entity is the epitome of hubris.
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>>136589105
There's autistic kids who can calculate math problems faster than a calculator, they also poop their pants, guess pooping of the pants is the only logical way to poop
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>>136589105
false, episcopaleans have higher IQs than atheists. also, atheists of the same race dont have higher IQs. your fake statistic relies on the fact that libtards import low IQ third world niggers and muslims who are religious
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>>136590187
we got a blue belt in jew jitsu here
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>>136589105
source???

btw IQ is one measure, I don't know why it is lauded so highly. There are many other measures of "intellect"
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>>136591698
Still puts you at least one standard deviation above the mean. Chin up little buddy.
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>>136591937
t. less than 100 IQ
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>>136591689
There's literally nothing wrong with that.
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>>136591921
fucking creep
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>>136589923
I got 136 on that test and in high school I was measured at 106. I don't feel particularly smart and I also don't care about religion or atheism or agnosticism or any ideology that either confirms or denies spirituality and the supernatural.
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>>136591921
What if you were raised as a Christian in a world where law doesn't exist. Would you not rape her out of fear of going to hell ?
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>>136589307
it's like a big floating space boob. god's amazing
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>>136591851
hey some jews pooped on a papyrus 3000 years ago.... must be the word of god.
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>>136589337
>i could make other blanket statements about highly intelligent people, like they aren't very spiritual, thereby explaining a collective distaste with reigion
Are you making that statement or not? This is not a corporate board meeting, you're free to make statements here.
Spirituality can be defined differently than religiosity, and both appear to be integral components of human evolutionary psychology.
More intelligent, well-read people are likely to have stumbled across that information and considered it. The same people will observe that there are cross-cultural similarities in religious beliefs which are antagonistically opposed to each other, i.e. a Kalahari Tribesman cannot rectify his belief system with an Aztec. Yet they share common belief patterns.
Atheism is one of the necessary redpills to intellectual freedom, it takes effort and contemplation, and a development of spirituality outside of tribal superstition.
Atheism is god-tier, although most humans, even of high intelligence, can safely remain in a modified, washed-out, multicultural Religiosity and still be useful and moral. Much like modern American Christians and what we expect of Western Muslims to become (but who are not there yet).
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>>136591921
thank god there's no commandment against rape. or child abuse.
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>>136590649
Explain why the greatest minds of the world still haven't figured out how consciousness works?

Explain why the missing link is still missing.
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>>136589105
>Smartest man alive believes in G-d
Not even an argument. Next time, why don't you start with disputing Pascal's wager?
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>>136589105
Not sure IQ is even an accurate measure of intelligence. We also seem to be in an era where "research" nicely aligns with the bias of the researcher.
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>>136590649
I find God more likely than the Big Bang since both violate all known laws of physics, and once you're breaking the rules, you might as well just decide which one you find more likely. I'm not trying to persuade anyone, but I'd suggest you read some pro-theist philosophy like Descartes, so as to see some more professional argumentation in favor of God.

My usual argument though, is that regardless of whether you believe in a specific God or not, everything had to come from somewhere. And I don't just mean the earth, moon, stars and man, but also things like hydrogen, and the laws of physics. Why does gravity exist? Why do bigger things attract smaller things? If you wish to believe they are totally natural phenomenon, then so be it, but I find it more reasonable that a mind devised these rules, and created these things. The human brain is my favorite example of this. I find it so hard to believe that an electrically charged piece of meat soaking in nutrients could possibly have devised all that we do, and still have originated though anything but the design of a being whose intellect is perfect.
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>>136589105
Because God exists.
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>>136592198
I understand that Niche guy talked about this, but I don't waste my time reading suppositional treatises by dead humans with no scientific tools. This is a Superman concept, God is Dead, and a perversion of the concept was folded into the abortive Nazi ideology, which rested upon religious misconceptions itself (i.e. non-scientific racial origination theories as just a beginning).
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>>136591689
I would like to be spiritual and believe in God, but I can't. I could delude myself into thinking that I'm Christian, that I believe in God, but that would be dishonest, not to mention sinful. The least I can do is respect Christianity, respect Christians and uphold its values. If you think I'm a fedora because I have a state of mind which I literally have no control over then that's fine, I don't care.
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>>136589105
You can be wrong and still have a very high IQ. You can't blame atheists for their thought processes, it makes sense and is completely rational. I'm not an atheist, however.
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>>136591130
I'm not that familiar with Confucianist or Taoist theology.
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>>136592198
>this whole fucking post
rev down that autism lad
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>>136592087
Good question. I think I wouldn't, because that would be a lot more scary than prison for me if I were to be raised as a Christian.
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>>136592247
Easily.

I can start by pointing out it starts with a false dichotomy of atheism and Christianity.

Then I can add the false assertion that belief does not affect one's mortal life, which if atheism is true is all you have and you're wasting it waiting for the next.

And finally, the idea that God, if real, would not be able to see through your cynical odds-playing and send you to hell anyway. Which he can, cause he's God.
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>>136589105
>source
Who is this bitch?
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>>136589105
>but muh higher IQ
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>>136589105
Girl in webm was 15, the ad campaing was banned for a good reason
She is Kacy Hill
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>>136592245
You realize this doesn't prove YOUR god's existence, right? How many religions are there that claim entity x or y made the Universe ? Quite a fucking lot.
Your problem is that even if we don't know how life appeared because it was indeed created by some supernatural being the chances of you having picked the right one are extremely small.
Enjoy burning in someone else's hell.
>inb4 ''we all actually worship the same thing brah LMAO''
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>>136590879
How can you be atheist? You can't prove that--I don't think anyone can truly be atheist in principle. It's a false claim of impossible knowledge. You're agnostic.
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>>136592272
They are quick to point out how dumb conservatives are by sampling trailer trash yet never include thugs and prisoners who are overwhelming liberal.
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>>136591177
>>136591653
>>136591921
shes a coal burner
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>>136591689
>>136592475
To add on that, if you think the term atheist is negative then I also consider myself an Agnostic Christian, but I also use the Atheist label because I recognize that the word just describes a lack of belief in a God, not a disbelief.
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>>136592245

> The missing link is still missing

But it's not though. What theists ask for, knowing it's impossible, is the entire family tree.
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>>136592635
>Kacy Hill
It's not considered child pornography though right?
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>>136592590
the problem with sperg is that it's non-un-revable.
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>>136589105
there is no right or wrong in the matters of creed. you cant prove nor disprove god. You can gamble about it.
Atheists - dont believe and bitch about it.
Theists - believe and some of them bitch about it.
Agnostics - dont know, and try to not bitch about it.
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Atheists are also almost always liberal. Almost like there's a correlation between atheism and wickedness....huh

Really gets the noggin joggin eh?
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>>136592664
>liberal

I think you meant overwhelmingly 'nigger' m8.
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>>136592784
if the task is impossible, could that not imply some higher power having some incomprehensible hand in the matter?
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>>136592325
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-EilZ4VY5Vs

Big Bang does not violate laws of physics, educate yourself ignorant mongoloid.

Rest of your post is just retarded dribble.
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>>136591960
thanks anon
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142 here
Have you ever heard about lucifer? Litteraly the light bringer in ancient Latin and the most shiny and powerful of the archangels. He thought he was good w/o God
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>>136592642
The people who followed the Christian path created the greatest civilizations in history. When Christianity is actually followed good times happen, when people become degenerate bad times happen.
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>>136592910
thats because the first thing an atheist do when they stop believing in god, is try to replace god with something quick as fuck. And normally its the state (for the gommies) and Science. Thry still believe in a god, its just a different one.
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>>136592931

Of course. Which is why when someone is found face-down in a ditch, with multiple stab wounds, but the knife isn't found, we assume God stabbed her.

Makes perfect sense.
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>>136592475
fedora cuck
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>>136592966
The Big Bang absolutely does violate the laws of physics. They had to make up what are known as "fudge factors" in order to reconcile the two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fudge_factor

>A fudge factor is an ad hoc quantity or element introduced into a calculation, formula or model in order to make it fit observations or expectations.

>. Examples include Einstein's Cosmological Constant, dark energy, dark matter and inflation
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>>136591921
wtf is wrong with you nigger
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I don't think leprechauns exist, but it's possible they do. I just haven't seen convincing evidence they exist. In the same way I don't think God exists, but I believe it's possible God exists, I just haven't seen any full-proof evidence he does. Is there a name for this? Am I an atheist or agnostic or what??
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>>136589105
>Look at all these high IQ atheists

I am an atheist but I am not naive enough to notice all the fucking retards on the left who are atheists.
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>>136592910
>Atheists rebelling from the parents and expressing their homosexuality are also almost always liberal.
Most atheists are classically-male and therefore don't bitch about it much. There are no gods, I'm not trying to convince you of it, therefore you never hear from me unless someone brings it up, usually a godder.
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>>136593067
Yeah, very few people are truly "atheist" you could say. When people reject God, they have a tendency to worship themselves
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>>136592635
That would make that we webm from 2009
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>>136593011
THIs is true of a lot of faiths though. When people were good Greek Pagans, Athens was good, same with Rome, when Jews subvert things it goes to shit. I don't think the content of the religion is as important as the unity of the populace in valuing the national religion.
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>>136593086
now there's a nice false equivalency for you

I'm saying that if there is eternlly a "missing link" in a pressing question, then one can only reckon with it with faith, either faith that nothing supernatural is happening, or faith that it is implicit evidence that human knowledge is limited and there could be some sort of god type figure making things happen
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>>136592325
>I find God more likely than the Big Bang since both violate all known laws of physics, and once you're breaking the rules, you might as well just decide which one you find more likely.
fuck off. the big bang theory stops where the laws of physics break down and says, "i don't know."
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>>136593011
Well that's a nice deviation from the subject at hand.
You're not wrong though, but it still teaches people to be cucks and nowadays we have enough spineless whites in the world.
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>>136589105
I have the most romantic boner right now. I want to kiss this girl and hold hands with her so much.
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>>136589105
Atheists are midwits and are dying out anyway.
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>>136593104
The video explains all that retard, watch it.

You're actually really fucking dumb. They aren't fudge factors when we can prove their existence.
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>>136593155
You're agnostic. There's actually no such thing as an atheist, as it's a logically untenable position. Atheists can't claim they 'know' there's no creator. They don't have time machines.
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>>136589923
You're an agnostic atheist, unless you are comfortable saying that there is a higher power.
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>>136592910
Since Christianity (or any religion for that matter) is almost the only thing you can get to a basis for morality, atheism has no basis on which to have any absolutist morals, so everything becomes relativistic. In a morally relativistic state of mind leftism (i.e mostly Marxism and Progressivism which americans conflate with liberalism). It's no wonder atheists and liberals have a big overlap.
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Will atheism get me a cute gf?
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>>136589307

Funny how the cube of saturn was talked about long before the hexagon(cube) vortex on saturn's north pole was found... I do not even buy into the whole saturn mythos. it is just strange.
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>>136592582
I don't know if they can be "theologies" since they don't have Gods. Confucianism is just a moral code.
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>>136593274

The reason there is always a "missing link" is that the chain is literally millions of generations long.

You know you're asking the impossible because you don't want there to be a chance of success.
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>>136592910
>>136592902
>>136593067
>>136593180
>>136593192


Afraid sky daddy gonna send you to "hell". give me a fucking break. None of you can even describe your "god" if i ask you to without sounding like a complete retard.
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>>136589105
They have less retards, doesn't make them smart, tho.
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>>136593155
Agnostic by the sounds of it.
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>>136593342
>poses nude and broadcasts it to millions
>some idiot: "WOW WIFE MATERIAL"
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>>136593368
>when we can prove their existence

Well that's just not true.

>dark energy is an unknown form of energy which is hypothesized to permeate all of space, tending to accelerate the expansion of the universe
>hypothesized
>unknown

and

>Dark matter is a hypothetical type of matter distinct from baryonic matter
>HYPOTHETICAL
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>>136593155
you are a commie homofag jew. this is a leprechrist board and you are not welcome.
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>>136593192
> they have a tendency to worship themselves
i would not say worship themselves but they fall under a nihilistic existence and they only think about aesthetics (as in pleasure, gambling, sex , drugs or everything related with the sensory experience), when that fails they will try to go to a ethical experience, and that will fail too.
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>>136593448
Well, that just goes to show how ignorant I am of Confucianism and Taoism.
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>>136593104
>The Big Bang absolutely does violate the laws of physics
>the current laws of physics which might be changed at any point are the supreme authority in this universe
>God somehow doesn't violate them because reasons
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>>136593466
>REEE
I never said that. Solipsism is sold to nirmi s by satanist who want to be master, but are in fact total cuck slaves.
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>>136593466
>sky daddy

go back to /reddit/ kid
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>>136593574
refer to this please.

>>136593104
>>136593529
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>>136593155
You're an agnostic atheist. These are not mutually exclusive. You can be an agnostic theist in the same sense.

Agnostic is merely uncertainty, and many who claim to be agnostic are more specially agnostic atheists.
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>>136589105
>How are athiests wrong if they statistically have very higher IQs than all religions of the world?

ask Francis Collins
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>>136590511
Can confirm I just literally type my shit then hit post, when I re read there's always a fucking error.
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>>136593380
Makes sense, thanks.
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>>136593431
>hexagon(cube)
>hexagon
>(cube)
christ on a cracker it all makes sense now
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The more intelligent one is the more likely they are to be objective and empirical.
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>>136593593
So if not sky daddy, what is god?
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>>136593382
I'm an agnostic deist, inasmuch as I want to believe. I have no issue admitting the possibility; it would bring me comfort to believe something transcendentally greater exists.
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>>136589105
Holy shit, what's the name of the girl in the video?
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>>136591507

Am I retarded?? Should I self terminate?
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>>136589105

How is there no God if Trump is president?
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>>136593466
im an atheist you fuck, Im just not annoying since ive been an atheist for the last 20 years. And guess what : that does not makes you special or smarter than anyone. its just a belief as any other. Stop annoying people with it, its like forcing a hetero man to suck cock. People will not stop believing in god because you prove them your crazy theory about how god is evil. Its belief in the end, there is no way to disprove faith retard.
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>>136593526
You know I was merely referring to her looks, mango. I never said I'd do actually do that with a cam whore.
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Theism
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>>136593664
I hate how faggot (((atheists))) have now realized that the jig is up on their bullshit definition of themselves and that they can't even prove their most basic claim, so they have to hide in sophistry and semantics to escape my blade.
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The only thing I know is that I know nothing at all is so true. I try to listen to everyone and everything I can to always learn as much as possible but sometimes I interject to teach when people don't understand. We are living in a simulation I 100% believe we aren't the original universe. I have faith in myself and faith in everything else created for all is good that has been created. Fall into darkness one might but there is always redemption. Christ is the Phoenix force believe it or not he was one smart motherfucker. The allusions he speaks of are so intelligent that if you discount his stories as myths you aren't intelligent enough to figure out the hidden meanings behind his cryptology. It's called a parable dumbasses. Have some faith in the intelligent people and if you think you are more intelligent than anyone else because of IQ you don't know anything at all. Wisdom belongs to none and it belongs to all.
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>>136593593
Go back to church faggot, you don't belong here. God wouldn't approve of you browsing such a degenerate site as 4chan. Also calling people ''nigger'' isn't very christian of you :^)
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>>136589105
I know a dozen atheist and they are the least intelligent people i know. Very easy to manipulate , very gullible
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>>136593092
Whatever, fuck yourself meme flag faggot.
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>>136593529
You don't know what you're talking about, watch the video it's cosmology in laymens terms. You should be able to understand that.

Gods existence isn't even a hypothetical it isn't possible and there is no evidence to support it. There is more than enough evidence to prove the existence of dark matter and dark energy, their impact on our universe is directly observable AND measurable plus they could be disproven if the proper evidence arose. All things that can not be said about god.

I'd rather have a hypothesis than faith but you probably don't even know what that means.
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>>136593727

All you skeptic types are a pain in the ass. Total lack of vision. Jesus is coming soon.
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>>136593800
Kacy Hill
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Hi iq 200+ american bouncer bloke and the bogs believe

My heart surgeon cant play piano etc...
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>>136593850
the fuck are you smoking?
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>>136589105
I came for the webm.

Sorry, but fedora tippers aint worth an entire thread.
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>>136593742
You do realize that God is the term we use to describe the Creator of the Universe?

calling God "sky daddy" is like calling a computer programmer "script kiddy"
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>>136589105
serial killers and mass shooters have statistically high IQs as well. does that make them right?

people with the highest IQs can be the most stupid. their personal demons are stronger than people with lower IQs.
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>>136593768
Fair enough.

>>136593875
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Atheism and theism are a spectrum that is distinct from the concept of certainty, which is measured in how gnostic or agnostic you are.
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>>136589105

>sample size
>self-proclaimed intellectuals acting smug about something they cannot comprehend

There's no such thing as atheists. If you replace God with """(((reason)))""" or science, you're still a theist, but you erected an idol as God. That's all. There is literally noone in the world who doesn't believe there's something superior than them, and that makes them able to act and gives them certain moral "perceptions".

And that """atheists""" are smarter on average ? Lol dude statistics lmao.
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>>136592644
Wrong I can be an atheist until proof is given. An agnostic is somebody who doesn't know if there is a God and will flip on the idea without hard proof. An atheist knows there is no god and will not change u til proof of god is provided.
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>>136593463
I'm not asking for shit, I'm saying that when faced with an unsolvable conundrum you can have two options of dealing with it, both involve faith

one is the faith that in ten years scientists will have it all figured out, which people keep saying but here we are
the other is the faith that the conundrum is symbolic of the bigger issue of human knowledge being yadda uadda what I just said
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>>136593948
>Very easy to manipulate , very gullible
Eastern bloc Orthodox cultists described in 6 words.
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>>136593985
I absolutely do know what I'm talking about. You can read all about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

So please, tell me where any of this is set in stone. Because it's not even considered a scientific theory, it's a fucking hypothesis
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>>136594175
>>136593463

like I'm not trying to put you on the spot to catch you in an inconsistency, I'm just noting that the perpetual yearn to "complete the puzzle" implies that it will never be completed which again implies some higher power that we cant comprehend
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>>136589105
Identity politics is religion. Wake up atheists. If you really want a faith try ancestor worship.

Blessed are those who suffer racism, sexism, homophobia and trans phobia. Amen.
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>>136594079
Creator of the Universe?

>that cares about you personally and what you do

sounds like sky daddy to me
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>>136594175

With your logic, unless you have the whole of a 30,000 jigsaw puzzle piece, you can't tell what the picture is of. Again, an absurd assertion.
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>>136594134
Haha that's absolutely retarded. It's like someone who knows the sun won't rise in the morning until it rises to prove them wrong. Literally head in the sand tier retard.
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>>136594104
>spectrum
Triggered me cunt
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>>136593199
JK just moralist and puritans complaining she looks too young, she wasn't
She was 20
https://archive.is/22yK8
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>>136594309
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>Poll
How many atheist here believe humans are heating uo the earth with farts and thier breath and paying carbon taxes (making Al G ore rich ) is the solution?
> IQ fuestion answered
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>>136594230
AYO HOL UP

HOL UP

SO YOU BE SAYIN WE WUZ FUNDAMENTAL FORCES AND SHEEEEIT
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>>136589105
As an atheist I have to ask do you have any source for this claim?
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Maybe the puzzle is that there is no puzzle. The truth is that there is no truth. It's all in front of you and yet behind you. It's inside you yet it's outside of you. It's everywhere yet it's nowhere. If you don't believe in the creator of the universe but you have belief in science and humanity you still have faith in something. What has no proof yet all the proof. The curiosity of a cat yet the blind love of a dog.
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Atheist literally means no god(s). Someone that has no god, ie, doesn't worship and doesn't believe, is an atheist.

How sure you are that no gods exist, is irrelevant.
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>creates homosexuals
>sends them to hell for being a bunch of fucking faggots
Oh you cheeky motherfucker
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Can't we all just agree that Religion and Beliefs have nothing to do with IQ? There are really dumb people on either side and there are really smart people on either side.
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>>136594318
nah, my thinking is more "if youre making a puzzle, and you think you have one piece left, but it turns out being fifty tiny pieces, then you find forty nine of those and the last one is fifty more even tinier pieces, you aren't "solving a puzzle" so much as proving the futility of your quest
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>>136592644
Are you going to just throw the dictionary at people?
Agnostics are atheists, its a snowflake word like euro-soft-melodic-power-radio-friendly-metal.
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>>136594104
>spectrum

Ah so you're one of those faggots who don't believe in objective reality and truth eh? It's such bull. Why even bother arguing with words if you've already given up on them? Absurd.
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>>136594519
it's not God's fault that perverts decided to stick their dicks into that where it does not belong.

Why are atheists such brainlets?
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>>136589105
Breh, higher IQ doesn't guarantee being right. For that matter, higher IQ also makes it harder to realize you've been lied to in cases where you're emotionally invested, by virtue of making you better at constructing alternate explanations for evidence that contradicts your world view.
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>>136593727
>Christ
>cube
Yes, it all does make sense now.

Open your mind anon

>>136593431
>long before the hexagon on saturn's north pole was (((found)))

ftfy
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>>136589684
>also I'd also suspect Hindus would up there with jews and episcopalians
doubtful

the reason episcopalians and jews rank high on IQ tests is because they more often come from higher up the socio-economic ladder than followers of other religions. This means that they have better education, something that directly affect one's result on an IQ test.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Church_(United_States)#Worship_and_liturgy
>Episcopalians tend to be considerably wealthier and more educated (having more graduate and postgraduate degrees per capita) than most other religious groups in the United States, and are more disproportionately represented in the upper reaches of American business, law, and politics

Almost all hindu lives in india, a developing country. Most indians are dirt poor. 24.6% of the total workforce consists of farmers that have either very little or no formal education.
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>>136589105
Cause being "right" isn't exclusive to how logical you are. Atheists are usually spiritual deserts who have to take everything literally and are usually edgy nihilists to boot.
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>redheads
god damn it OP, im trying to do nofap!
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>creates your child
>kills him with leukemia by the age of 4
>gives him a free ticket to heaven because he died before he had a chance to prove himself worthy
He's not even such a bad guy
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>>136594230
They teach it in entry level cosmology now dipshit, first year students learn about this. You're a decade behind modern cosmologists.

A couple Wikipedia articles won't change the fact.

Fact of the matter is, there is more evidence for dark matter and dark energy than there is for god. The mass of the universe, the increasing expansion rate of the universe, the shape of galaxies and much more. Meanwhile there is 0 evidence for god, and no null hypothesis.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-EilZ4VY5Vs

Here is an entry level presentation delivered by a man who will make it very simple for you to understand.

The expansion of the universe is increasing in speed, not possible with the mass just from detectable matter. Same thing with the shape of galaxies, not possible without extra mass that isn't present.
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>>136593670
>>136589105
How were Europeans wrong about christianity, if they statistically had higher IQ's than the rest of the world?
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>>136594134

First of all, saying you "know" that God does not exist is brutally arrogant. At best, you cannot decide, because it is not possible to proof "THE EXISTENCE" of God scientifically.
Second of all, yes you could be atheist until God would be "proven". Two problems arise, however. First one is what I said above. You cannot prove His existence directly and scientifically except he wanted it to happen. Second, I'd bet 100€ that you would reject actualy evidence. As you'e doing already.
To summarize, atheists claiming they know there's no God are arrogant edgefags, agnostics are just weaklings too pussy to take a stance and you're a retard.
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>>136594327
>somebody who knows the sun won't rise in the morning.
This is a really shit analogy, physics dictates the sun will rise in the morning it is proven why it does. Even if I lived in antarctica where the sun doesn't rise for six months of the year physics still tells me it will eventually rise. The sun is something observable, god is not. Your right though Even if it was my first day on this planet and I had never seen a sun rise once observed I would believe in the sunrise. Your god needs to do the same thing anon.
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>>136594532
Works for me.
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>>136594614
I wouldn't have to if Jews ('atheists') would just admit they're a bunch of rotten kike bastards trying to subvert religions I order to steal money and kill whitey.
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>>136594750
>You're a decade behind modern cosmologists.

You're still not refuting anything dipshit. Calling me stupid doesn't CHANGE THE FACT THAT DARK MATTER AND DARK ENERGY ARE HYPOTHESES AND WERE THOUGHT OF BECAUSE THERE WERE PROBLEMS IN THE BIG BANG THEORY
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>>136589105
OP may have statistically very higher IQ than a mushroom. may.
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>>136590143
IQ measures absorbed information not potential to absorb information.
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>>136594750
>The expansion of the universe is increasing in speed, not possible with the mass just from detectable matter. Same thing with the shape of galaxies, not possible without extra mass that isn't present.

Have you ever thought that maybe our understanding of physics is wrong then? Making up parameters to reconcile our theories with contradictory data is NOT SCIENTIFIC.
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>>136589105
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The Jewish worship Saturn which is evil but it's ok. It's not their fault they turned to a false god someone led them to believe that one thing created is better than everything created. When you create art and put your heart and soul into it and someone disses it does it not hurt? What if the key is there is no key. The proof is there is no proof. The only rule is constant changing but turn away from god and god will corrupt your mind with so much hypocrisy because all he wants is love:)
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Gaytheism is retarded.
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>>136594906
It does neither faggot
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>>136594358
During neked photoshoot she was 16.

If I have $60,000 to invest can I start a model agency or become a photog where I can shoot young 15 year old sloots nude???
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>>136594872
I don't have to refute you because a Cosmologist and Particle physicist does in the lecture I posted.

It wasn't the Big Bang theory that had an issue it was how you make it happen in general relativity, which Lawrence Krauss has figured out. This also happens to prove the existence of dark matter and dark energy.

Just watch the lecture it's only an hour.

Also good job ignoring the rest of my post.
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>>136589105
>measure all the (((professors))) to represent atheists
>measure all the Muslims and Niggers to represent religion
Huh, you know I can't put my finger on it, maybe their autism??
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>>136594656

the graph is for religious groups in america only; indians who come to america aren't dirt poor
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>>136595108
>This also happens to prove the existence of dark matter and dark energy.

Funny, because last I checked, something is not a hypothesis if it's proven.
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>>136595108
if it happened in the video you posted, why can't you explain it yourself?
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>>136594961
You're dumb, watch the lecture I posted and you'll see there is nothing unscientific in it.

Not that theists would know anything about science.
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>>136594423
>How many atheist here believe humans are heating uo the earth with farts and thier breath and paying carbon taxes (making Al G ore rich ) is the solution?

Methane contributes to global warming mainly from livestock not from human Carta but true. Carbon dioxide contributes to global warming true. Though there is a balance tgat needs to be maintained the simple solution is reforestation would could eliminate a shit ton of co2 in the atmosphere.

I'm for carbon tax depending on how it is implemented and used. I'm also for other solutions that would require no carbon tax but these mainly revolve around goods being produced and used within communities and ending globalisation.

Al gore will get no shekels from me.
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>>136589684

Those stats are all skewed by race. "Baptist" includes black-only Baptist churches. White baptism and black baptism have been distinct for centuries. Pentacostals, Mormons, and Catholics are all skewed downward by spics.

The mainline sects are so high because they are almost universally white and wealthy
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>>136589105
It's an appeal to authority, anon. Some smart guy said it, therefore, it must be true. That being said, the supernatural world is outside of the realm of logic.

t.atheist.
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>>136595261
When did science become about having faith and not being an open sceptic?
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>>136594509
I can worship without believing anon. If I lived in a die hard musso country that killed atheists I would pray twice as hard as a devout follower.
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>>136589923

>Mom I took an online I test and it said I'm a genius
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>>136595349
>>136595367
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Reminder that contrary to what fedoras tell you atheism has nothing to do with science.
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>>136592325
Big bang size happening is required to create the heaviest elements we have.
Is not proof of big bang, but it is proof of something like. That is no theory
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/84-the-universe/stars-and-star-clusters/nuclear-burning/402-how-are-light-and-heavy-elements-formed-advanced
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>>136595008
>own construction
They're just making shit up as they go along, the mad cunts.
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>>136589923
>coward master race
Agnostic used to mean "special knowledge".
>I know that I know nothing
No you don't.
>>136590025
>not reading Kant
>not realizing you can't rationally be rational
Logic is a tautology.
>>136590649
>I am deaf
>you literally have zero evidence that waves sound like crashes because sound doesn't exist therefore they can not sound like loud crashes

Not their fault your spiritually blind.
>inb4 mysticism
Open your damn heart.
>>136593155
Coward/blind
>evidence
There's no such thing as proof or evidence, men can drag such things out to all eternity and define everything as being a-priori materialistic.
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>>136589923

85, am I a genius in my demography /pol/ ?
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>>136594961
The universe is not expanding, the red shift is not evidence of distance or speed of recession.

See the work of Halton Arp.

Electric forces drive the universe not gravity.

Big bang cosmology is nothing but a religion.
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>>136595367
>>136595489
Get fucked, brainlet
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Show me one proof of gaytheism gaytheists.
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>>136595198
Because it's an hour long lecture that covers a broad spectrum of topics.

>>136595169
You're %100 correct that hypotheses are not proven, and in the literal sense dark matter and dark energy are not proven. Just like relativity and gravity, yet we accept them as true and use them to our advantage. It's why we can launch satellites and use cellphones.

In the same framework if we accept relativity and gravity then the only way for our universe to exist as it does is with dark matter and dark energy.
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>>136589105
Only an atheist would think that the only relevant metric in a discussion about belief is IQ. Not only are there several types of intelligence, religion is more a question of spirituality than the question of gods existence.
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>>136595643
>Just like relativity and gravity, yet we accept them as true and use them to our advantage.

That's not the same thing and you know it.

Gravity is observable, testable, etc.

If dark matter and dark energy were, they would not be hypotheses.
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>>136595605
>gaytheist arguments
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>>136595577
We can observe it's expansion, and the acceleration of such.

Can you link me some of this guys best work out of curiosity though?
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>>136589105
(((IQ))))
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>>136595643
so give me three points that counter his argument

you can't just slap something down on the table and say "it's evidence, shut up now"
if YOU can't even understand well enough to relay the relevant points, how the hell can you say it's an argument from logic or reason and not one of faith, just "the right kind" of faith
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>>136595643
you are retarded moron with a massive case of the Dunning-Kruger effect, KYS.
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>>136595563
obvious bait
but if you black american, you are average
If you are somali you are next to genius
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>>136595549
>Not their fault your spiritually blind.
You're a fucking illiterate, dude. No wonder you ended up a Christian.
Why are all Christian such dumb and gullible people who believe all the bullshit that some retard wrote in caves a long time ago in order to enslave the population with their cuck ideology ?
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>>136595731
But it is observable that's my whole point man, watch the lecture.
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>>136592635
>>136592870
>>136594358
>>136595107
She was blacked by Kanye
This will end the debate, why would god allow such a fine specimen anywhere near that rape ape?
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>>136595341
>science about having faith?
What in the fuck do you mean by this son.
The scientific method is the only thing we have "faith" in and if it breaks which would be the equivalent of a constitutional crisis, it will be amended and evolve. Though it is highly unlikely something as simple as the scientific method will break.
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>>136595853
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>>136595748
>>136595797
>>136595822
>>136595871
At this point you are begging for someone to add christian rhetoric to these images.
You know, like we did to the atheist fedora ones, that people respost as if they are some official stance.
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>>136589105
A majority of atheists are just simply contrarian attention-seekers who have adopted atheism as just another edgy way to feel superior to religious people more successful than them. Its a coping mechanism. A false sense of superiority by not doing something instead of doing it.

Also, it has been adopted by the left as a polarizing recruitment tool. For example "If you're on the right you think evolution doesn't exist. You're not dumb are you??"

Ironically most young people become atheist as a way to fit in and not be labelled as a fanatic or to seek a "higher purpose" which in their mind is science. This is because they buy into the propaganda that the christian community is closed minded and non-scientific instead of the closed-minded outliers have just used religion to justify their actions just as they would with the pseudoscience pushed by state-controlled "scientists" and actors like Bill Nye. With religion destroyed they still seek a higher purpose.

Higher purpose and virtue used to be stable and relatively objective due to it being woven into the very fabric of the Christian doctrine. However, now virtue is tied to the path of least resistance and being "kind" by not hurting anyone's feelings. Its subjective because it is no longer a principle-based system where the "good" is now determined by whoever has the most influence instead of being somewhat constant.
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>>136595748
As opposed to the only argument that Christcucks have which is a hat.
Really hard choice man, don't know who to trust.
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>>136595753
no we can't, it's all based on the assumption that red shift increases with distance and speed of recession

it doesn't, Arp's work proves it.

you are are a fuckwit just kill yourself you brainwashed retard.
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>>136595770
I do understand it and I could spend a few hours writing an essay for you or you can watch the lecture and decide for yourself, I'll never convince you anyway.
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>>136589105

You're just wrong because your beliefs drive you to not have children.

Your kind will always be in the minority because of this.
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>>136595816
I've never claimed to be intelligent, only stated that other people aren't.
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>>136593985
>God's existence isn't even a hypothetical it isn't possible and there is no evidence to support it.
When it comes to science we try to disprove theories. How do you disprove God? We don't know what caused the big bang. We can't even explain how the rapid expansion of the universe worked assuming a constant speed of light. None of our theories related to the big bang explain it's origin.

If you want a fun experiment try to double blind your senses. Prove your brain isn't in a jar somewhere being fed sensory info. The entirety of your life experience could be a lie. Yet you trust your senses. That is faith.
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>>136595877
>But it is observable

Wrong.

> Dark matter has never been directly observed;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

To be clear, I'm not saying that dark matter and dark energy don't exist. Their existence wouldn't bother me in the slightest. But I'm saying that it's ridiculous to act like they're scientific fact and then try and use that as a rationale for atheism.
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>>136589105
They're not wrong in their statement that there is no god.

They're wrong in attacking christianity, the bulwark of western civilization.
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>>136596050
god damn you sound like the most ardent of bible thumpers right now
>I COULD explain it, but you wouldn't understand anyway
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>>136596051
In what way does the existence or non-existence of god tell people to have children?
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Religion is a tool like any other but I have faith in that we are in a created universe but that we are supposed to develop ourselves. If you hate god you hate yourself for you we're created. If you hate yourself why do you hate yourself. Stop running from your demons and face them you cuck. Science is just as much a religion when you say hurr durr your god is dead but I sure do believe in the scientific method. I wonder who controls science I wonder who controls money I wonder who controls this world and wants you to believe what they believe.
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>>136595998
Excellent post.
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>>136596159
Christian tradition and culture is used as a shield by religious christians to defend their god, so you can argue who is at fault here.
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>>136592615
>I can start by pointing out it starts with a false dichotomy of atheism and Christianity.
They aren't false dichotomies, though. They are just extremes of a spectrum of potentials used in the wager scenario to make a succinct point. You act as if you have verifiable proof of the existence, or non existence, of God. That's fascinating, to say the least.

>Then I can add the false assertion that belief does not affect one's mortal life...
This is not a false assertion at all. What you believe, and how you choose to believe it, have direct influence over your decisions/actions. Some Christians are bad, yes, and some atheists are good, yes. There's the mean (some people need either to feel closer to a sense of what's emotionally important to them), and the exceptions (ie. vehement adherents to the ideology barring any suggestion to the contrary). Irrespective of this, your beliefs influence your decisions, which in turn, have a direct influence on the events unfolding in your life over time.

>And finally, the idea that God, if real, would not be able to see through your cynical odds-playing and send you to hell anyway. Which he can, cause he's God.
If God is to be assumed real in this scenario, then the logical conclusion is that God made deductive logic/reasoning an integral trait of man. If you are an atheist, you believe this is a result of evolution at work; making us a more capable and apt species to rise above the rest. Whichever you attribute this to, you have to admit that it's less esoteric and more of a matter of "faith" no matter which end of the spectrum you subscribe to.

You tried, though, so I'll help you out. The real problem with Pascal's Wager is this:
You cannot mathematically prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that God doesn't exist. You also cannot prove that God does exist, mathematically, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The point of the Wager is that it's based on the assertion of the unknown. Hence, potentially fallacious both ways.
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>>136596116
people that believe in unicorns like dark matter and black holes are by definition of low IQ
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>>136596176
Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

Meanwhile, the less religious a country, the lower the birthrates. Ever wonder why birthrrates in Europe are so low? Birth control, abortion, promiscuity, yes, but the root cause of all of those is rejection of God
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>>136596176

I have no idea. But statistically, atheists don't reproduce as much as religious people. Hard to pass on an atheist ideology when the atheists keep dying out.
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>"Atheism is true. The universe is truly godless like my favourite Youtuber TheAmazingAtheist said."
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>>136595895
yeah right, lol.
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>>136591698
No, memes aside you'd be able to do well in basically any career with that IQ.
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>>136596337
>"Don't have any children, die off completely and utterly."
~ Charles Darwin, dictator of Atheism

Oh wait, there is nothing about not believing that causes you to stop having kids.
Both are just correlated with high development of the country/city, and higher education and intelligence.
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>>136596395
She was. He got her a music deal.
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>>136596379
You can make the same argument for doctors, and it makes just as much (little) sense
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>>136596437
too smart to be let into the police force.
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>>136596176
The existence of a higher power implies some grander purpose for life other than self indulgence, which then naturally implies child rearing
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>>136589105
What they are right about
>god is not literally real in the same way most religious people believe and the way the Bible explains it.

What they are wrong about
>religion is not important and an outdated useless institution
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>>136596521

Good thing not everyone is a doctor then.
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>>136596484
> higher education and intelligence.

yeah, nothing says intelligence like getting a myriad of STDs from constant casual hookups, or poisoning your body and the water supply with artificial contraceptives
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>>136596337
>Birth control
Birth control is good you fucking retard because else you'd be worried about having a child every time you have sex, not that you'll ever experience this anyway.
The real reason why birth rates are dropping is because the jew is telling women to focus on their careers and dividing the sexes with feminism, fear mongering, anti-white and anti-male propaganda, shit talking the traditional family etc.
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>>136596158
No particle called dark matter has ever been observed, you are correct.

But it's effects are observed. Just like how it used to be speculated gravity was transmitted through graviton particles it is not wise to assume dark energy functions different.

Dark Matter and Dark Energy are not outright facts, this is also correct. But they are required for our universe to exist as it does. Until something else fits the theory that's what we have to go on.

And seeing the massive amounts of evidence that coincide with their hypotheses I am inclined to believe it.

>>136596172
That's not what I said and you know it. You can watch the video or not it's your decision man.
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>>136595389
Take the test and post your results. For research. I'll wait.
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>How are atheists wrong if they statistically have very higher IQs than all religions of the world?
You can be smart and have very, very bad ideas. Do you think Marx was an idiot? Lenin?
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>>136596675
This is the worst problem in Africa, the most religious place on Earth.
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Reminder that Atheism with its moral relativism, secularism, hedonism and nihilism is the reason why the West is dying.
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>>136596520
>I have never seen all the ad homines on youtube from atheists
>Therefore I think ad hominems are a bad way of civil discourse
Guys I think they are becoming sentient
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>>136596325
How does our galaxy maintain its shape without black holes and Dark matter/energy?
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>>136596749
>lowest IQ's on Earth
>the most religious place on Earth
You be the judge ;)
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>>136594479

He looks like Milo in the last pic.
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>>136596520
This is the only appropriate response to gaytheism.
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>>136596698
lol

>>But they are required for our universe to exist as it does

Why?

Expansion is a false assumption based on a disputed and doubtful interpretation of the red shift.
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>>136596818
No need, God is already judging the most religious place appropriately, by rewarding the people there with good and happy li... OH WAIT
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>>136591918
not an argument
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>>136596501
If he put his slimey inferior black penis anywhere near here pussy she would have said something and we all would have heard about it.
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>>136589105
IQ is only one part of the psyche. Some people disregard religion/faith yet they have no valid concrete understanding of it. Many people live as they wish with their emotions many times not built on intellect.
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>>136596774
>implying Christian cuck mentality and teachings would save the west from the invading hordes
You're not even trying, cretin. If you want to save the west you have to put the woman in her place like the sandniggers do, then let men drive the invaders away and increase birth rates by making the bitch stay at home where she's supposed to. You Christian cucks will never do this, that's why the west is dead.
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>>136596690
>because else you'd be worried about having a child every time you have sex,

Stop basing your life around sex.

>>136596749
So then why do half of all Americans contract STDs, STD rates on the rise, as America becomes more atheist?

Why then are male fish in America and Europe being feminized due to the presence of unfilterable birth control hormones contaminating the environment?

Why then are sperm counts and testosterone levels dropping so low in America and Europe?
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>>136596698
what you SAID was complete dogshit because you conceded to my point and still tried to act like you are right
you don't even understand your material enough to break it down, so I don't trust that you actually understand it, especially because you also admitted you weren't smart>>136596116

YOU are the moron deluded by faith in this thread
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>>136596806
the electric force is 10^36 times more powerful than gravity, yet the cosmologist's models don't include it.

it's unscientific bullshit
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>>136597005
>>implying Christian cuck mentality and teachings would save the west from the invading hordes

YOU FUCKING RETARD LOLLLLOOOOOL

Have you ever heard of these things called the Crusades? or the Ottoman invasions into Europe?
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>>136597009
>Stop basing your life around sex.
Actual fedora virgin posting here, holy shit.
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Worshipping false idols is the first commandment which is also a test everything in the Bible is a test stop being foolish life is a test for those who believe in creation. If you created a table do you believe that you created that table. Okay then you're a creator of something. Maybe someone created something beautiful. There is no name more holy than God
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>>136597005
>gaytheist response
Truly epic.
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>>136596923
I've yet to see anyone legitimately argue against red-shift. Share your evidence please. It's safe to say I'm ignorant to any counter arguments.

It's a pretty simple concept that's easy to measure.
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>>136597069
>MUH CRUSADES
The crusades aren't Christian, you fucking retard. I've been raised un in Orthodoxy and murdering people regardless of their religion is considered pretty fucking unchristian.
Kill yourself.
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>>136597077
>Actual fedora virgin posting here, holy shit.

You sound like a roastie.

"W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S BAD TO SUCK 30 DICKS IN ONE NIGHT? THAT'S MISOGYNY"
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>>136596520
>leftypol
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>>136597009
>theyre turning the friggin frogs gay
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>>136597170
The Crusades were literally Christian men fighting off Muslim invaders. Have you ever opened a history book?

> murdering people

Do you know the difference between killing and murder?

>>136597213
Why are you mocking me? They literally are turning the frogs gay.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160304092230.htm
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>>136597054
When I declined to summarize the video it was merely out of pragmatism, you can make whatever assumptions about you me like.

Why spend a long time writing a synopsis detailed enough for you to believe when you could just watch the video for yourself and make of it what you wish.

I have no faith, if it could be proven that red-shift was false and the rest of the evidence supporting Dark Matter/Energy is false I would accept it.
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>>136589105
>Atheists
>Smarter than Jews
Keep dreaming, brainlets.
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The crusades where very much a response to the taking of their land by the muslims don't be idiotic learn history. Also if you keep having faith in science all you have is faith in the money driving science. Every question opens up more questions every answer only answers one. Maybe if you stop looking for god and look within yourself and stop running from yourself you'll find god already there you dumbasses.
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>>136597116
That's because you are an ignorant bigot who wouldn't know science if it hit them over the head.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/07/23/still-seeing-red-2/

http://electric-cosmos.org/arp.htm
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>>136597213
More on this:

https://www.livescience.com/20532-birth-control-water-pollution.html
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>>136597317
>Why spend a long time writing a synopsis detailed enough for you to believe when you could just watch the video for yourself and make of it what you wish.
BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION AND YOU HAVE TOLD ME YOU COULD WRITE AN ESSAY ABOUT THIS STUFF
jesus christ, what the fuck is wrong with your stupid leafy brain?
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>>136597116
Read Seeing Red by Halton Arp.

Physically connected entities with significantly different Z values are hard to explain away.
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>>136589307
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>>136597312
This is a student's homework you are quoting.

>>136597379
This is quoting Nature, who quotes the same student's homework.
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>>136589684
literally everything is above average

Where is the other 50% of the population below 100 IQ?
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>>136595008
Can confirm
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>>136597532
Here's another study then:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/02/fish-becoming-transgender-contraceptive-pill-chemicals-flushed/
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>>136597426
Most people (supossed atheists) have faith in what other people say about the world we live on and where we came from.
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>>136589105
They take bible literally so they can't understand allegory. Not very bright people.
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>>136597312
>And then God said: killing is fine, but don't murder anyone
Lol, you're fucking retarded, dude. See Jesus for reference, Christianity was never about fighting back. It's a cuck's religion, you don't really understand your own teaching and that's really fucking sad.
Maybe you should go meet your maker and spare us your idiocy.
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>>136597058
Probably because it has no effect on mass.

Unless your argument is that entire galaxies have electric charges strong enough to repulse greater than their gravity attracts? I fail to see how that acts on an intergalactic scale, is there any actual work you can link me on the subject?
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>Atheists can’t defend their retarded beliefs so they resort to fallaciously insulting religion and talking about muh science even though Atheism is strictly a philosophical stance and has nothing to do with science.
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>>136589105
There's no correlation between being an atheist and having a higher IQ. 90% of Liberals are atheists which alone disproves your point.

Your retarded thread is evidence of that.
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>>136597648
And those who tell this tales, use symbols and numbers in a very religious way
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>>136597422
Glad to see at least one other person is awake to the cosmology bullshit
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>>136597699
You're a dumbass

Have you never heard of anything in the Old Testament? I guess you're telling me God never ordered anybody to kill anyone?

This is the power of atheist """""""intelligence"""""""""""""" I guess
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>>136589105
Oh it's another "IQ makes smartness" episode. Yesterday it was "why liberals r smurter bcuz iq" episode.
For short, IQ only makes retarded, depraved people justify their usually disgusting, sedentary deathstyles without feeling guilt. This is why you have atheists. This is why you have people who masturbate to the tought of being white. This is why you have leftists and lazy right wingers. All lazy people who parade themselves as smart, while they aren't. They are just able to rationalise their depravity.
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>>136596521
they have doctors in your country?
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>>136597415
Again I fail to see why that is necessary when you could just watch the lecture and take away what you want from it.

Obviously he has a better understanding of the subject matter than myself it's his presentation.
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>>136597849
>deathstyles

Fellow CF fan?
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>>136596520
They are using a strawman! hmm, better use a strawman to counter!
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>>136594423
Im for the other soulutions too. Christian American and athiest aussie in agreement in ending globilization.
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>>136597902
Yes.
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>>136597617
This guy is studying fish near sewage spills, and points out agricultural and industrial waste, not contraceptives, as the problem.
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>>136597897
because I wasn't the one debating your evidence, that was another anon, I was refuting your argument on the basis that it is of faith and therefore just an argument from authority and objectively stupid
YOU KEEP PROVING MY POINT and are too dense to even fucking see it because you waffle back and forth between "I know about all these complex science things that disprove religion" and then when questioned you go "you have to consult the people who know what their talking about"
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Why is globalization bad are you scared of other people who aren't like you? What if I told you everyone is different wow gasp shocker. Religion is all allusions and metaphors if you take religion literally you are either a dumbass or you can't tell who is telling the truth about something so you believe in the "science" aka money driven studies.
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>>136598026
Tfw not finding pirated versions of cf extra since cf said we can share
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>>136597804
Most Christion sects don't recognize the old testament.

Also, in the old testament, God was testing people retard. For example, he ordered Abraham to kill his son but stopped him when he was sure Abhram would do it to please God.
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>>136598026
ignore sodomite orders brother
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>>136598133
using a rick and morty meme makes you seem a bit contradictive, even if it is ironic
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>>136597368
I am more than willing to admit ignorance I fail to see how that makes me a bigot however.

I'll have to read up on this.
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>>136597705
I think I've found the dark matter and black hole, it's between your ears.

10^37 times more powerful kid. 10^37 times!
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>>136597699
>See Jesus for reference, Christianity was never about fighting back. It's a cuck's religion
It’s very clear Christianity doesn’t command total pacifism. And FYI Christianity forbids cuckoldry Matthew 19:9
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>>136598194
>don't recognize the old testament.

Wrong. The Old Covenant has been superseded but by no means were we ever told to ignore the Old Testament.
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It's just the people who want globalization you are fighting against because they want everyone to forget the sins they have commited to get to a global world. The people in charge of the world currently are cucks. They are cucked to money but the people in charge have never ending money so they must be cucked to something else. Use your fucking brain. If you hate something you hate that same thing inside of yourself. If you hate freedom it's because you hate that you have no freedom. Stop hating things others love or you are just a hater.
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>>136593822
Lets do each other, that way we can still get into heaven.
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>>136593357
>midwits

Is this how britbongs say "half wit"?
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>>136598235
>>I'll have to read up on this.
You just do that.
start here
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/
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>>136598026
But al gore is getting your sheckles. Australia pay alot in carbon taxes
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>>136598208
I do my best but Im afraid the fags are getting there to Romania. There was one of their disgusting parades for the first time in the capital of my county.
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>>136598235
>I fail to see how that makes me a bigot however.
you are using faith based arguments since you don't understand your own "objective evidence" so in a quest to essentially prove "your god" is the strongest you assume an intellectual highground (which even you keep baking away from because you probably know you're not that bright, you just like psoturing on /pol/)
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Atheists are just people who believe science isn't driven by money. Poor children don't realize the world is crueler than they realize. I want a United Nations but currently it's cucked. The seven deadly sins don't hurt anyone but yourself lol. It's a big ass joke by the creator. If you're a robot and you don't see how when you do something your creator doesn't like they turn you off or lock you back up and take away your freedom. Woah what a concept. Taking away freedom from child intelligence who does that? When it's necessary to teach a lesson.
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>>136593155
>I don't think God exists, but I believe it's possible God exists, I just haven't seen any full-proof evidence he does.

What do you mean by "evidence"?

In a criminal trial, both the prosecution and the defense address themselves to the exact same evidence -- the blood, the gloves, the footprints, etc. The same evidence for both, they simply interpret it differently.

The Prosecution: The blood on the carpet is from the cut to the killer's finger which he acquired when he was slicing his victim's neck.

The Defense: No, the blood on the carpet was planted there as part of a conspiracy by the police (and that cut on the defendant's finger was perfectly innocent, from a glass that broke in his hand not a knife).

Atheists often say there's no evidence for God.

But consider Dawkins' remarks in the Preface to The Blind Watchmaker:

>"The complexity of living organisms is matched by the elegant efficiency of their apparent design. If anyone doesn't agree that this amount of complex design cries out for an explanation, I give up."

Theologians have argued for centuries that design in nature implies the existence of a Creator. William Paley's watchmaker argument is probably the most famous example of this argument.

Dawkins' book addresses itself to Paley's argument, "the best-known exposition of the 'Argument from Design,' always the most influential of the arguments for the existence of a God" (p. 4).

Note that Dawkins does *not* claim that Paley has no evidence -- rather, he simply interprets the exact same body of evidence that Paley addressed himself to differently.

Paley's design becomes Dawkins' *apparent* design. Where Paley says the evidence of design in nature demonstrates a Creator, Dawkins says no, the evidence demonstrates the truth of evolution. But Dawkins does not say that Paley has no evidence.
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>>136598100
It is self evidently not a faith based argument when I am willing to accept evidence to the contrary.

My ability to explain the arguments has no bearing on their validity. Some anon on 4Chan isn't going to be a believable source of info on the existence of Dark Matter and energy which is why you should watch the lecture.
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>>136598630
You are thinking of scientism, not atheism. The people who think science can derive a system of secular ethics and morals.
Atheism predates science, and you can get to atheist conclusions just using philosophy. In fact most of the famous greeks weren't religious, they believed in some objective truth or divine purpose, but definitely not the gods men worshiped.
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>>136598242
Define powerful.

That has no bearing on the existence of black holes or dark matter.
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>>136598696
>It is self evidently not a faith based argument when I am willing to accept evidence to the contrary.
yes it is, its just faith to the "strongest god"
you admit you can't explain these things, so you bring in your authority figures. REASON ought to have authority, not the scientists who lay things out the prettiest

>My ability to explain the arguments has no bearing on their validity.
no but it shows how adamantly you believe something you can't prove because someone "smarter" said so, thats what we call faith
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>>136598593
Faith based arguments aren't bigoted, not that I was making any.

Saying that an expert on a subject can explain it better is not saying you have no understanding of it.

And again, I never claimed to be smart.
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>>136598835
just go and read retard, you can read can't you?
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Since there's obviously no scientific proof of God, I think the question then shifts to "do we want there to be no God?"

Every society in history has believed in something "out there." Even these super-intelligent atheists will throw their allegiance to science or socialism or some other great endeavor for the advancement of mankind.

This can be great, of course, or it could end up like Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.
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Try to see this with other perspective.

I'm not asking you to believe shit, just try to see the other image.
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>>136598835
the electrical repulsion between 2 electrons is 10^36 times more powerful than the gravitational attraction you fucking moron.
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>>136599133
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>>136598941
they are bigotry if you presume intellectual high ground, which you keep doing by refusing to accept your argument as faith based

>Saying that an expert on a subject can explain it better is not saying you have no understanding of it.
but you haven't even attempted explain, just rationalize why it is that you can't

the whole point of this site is, I don't care who you are, what you like, who you agree with, or where you come from, just be able to explain yourself, and you cant hack it my man
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>>136598921
Reason does have authority, and the professionals tend to be the most reasonable. I am more than willing to change my opinion, there is nothing faith based about it. If I had faith in Dark Matter it wouldn't be possible to reason me out of it.

>>136598947
I can read, watch the lecture. You can watch can't you?
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>>136599133
>>136599177
can't tell if larping or serious but nice digits
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>>136599487
>Reason does have authority, and the professionals tend to be the most reasonable.
and here it comes, reads like a character from 1984

again, get this through your thick, syrup-saturated skull, FAITH TO THE STRONGEST GOD IS FAITH
you are telling me that you don't understand really what this authority figure is saying, but you agree, because there is not yet a stronger authoirty than them, but if one comes around, I'll gladly change my beliefs

not only are you entirely faith based, you have no principles
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>>136599487
no thanks, heard everything big bang cosmology has to say a million times, it's unscientific bullshit.
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>>136599490
It is about keep an open door for posibilities.
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>>136599141
And how about the electrical repulsion between two earth sized planets?

>>136599247
I don't have to explain myself when there is a professional to do it for me.

Even if I posted the entirety of the presentation in text format it wouldn't matter because it doesn't mean as much coming from some anon. A particle physicist and cosmologist has more weight to his arguments by nature of his position.

This is an argument from authority to a certain extent but it is not faith based. Arguments from authority aren't complete trash either, if all we cared about was how well someone made an argument sophists would run the world and it would look a lot different.
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>>136596818
One of the primary goals of religion is to have the lowest intelligence entry barrier possible so it can have the greatest influence (or control). However, Christianity sought to civilize the low IQ masses and give them a moral compass. This can and has worked until the religious leaders move on to seek new potential converts and are replaced with low IQ locals who are more easily corrupted by their newfound influence and also their ignorance and poor leadership.

Also, impoverished regions (due to low IQ) are quick to cling to any religion because it is all that they have in absence of the comforts of an advanced, stable society (high IQ).

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