Jet fuel doesn't need to melt steel beams to cause collapse.

>>136565636
An aluminum body traveling at subsonic speed cannot penetrate a steel structure.

>>136565636
2 genders.

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>Using emoji as bullet points like a 14year old black girl ass clapping after every word of her poorly formed Ebonic argument.

How can anyone explain the demolition like collapse? How did it fall so perfectly straight?

>>136565636

an almond can really activate the skull glands

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>>136565636
>chemtrails aren't a thing
except they are.

>>136565864
>implying the planes hit a solid steel wall that isn't mostly hollow office space

>We've been to the moon
Where the original tapes at?

>>136565636
>current year
>still believing the official 9/11 narrative

Wow, just wow, I can't even, wow I just even can't right now.

>>136566094
I can find definitions for fictional ideas on Google too

>>136565636
you forgot 2 genders and trannys are mentally ill

Who is doubting climate change? I thought the contention was man's influence on climate change, not climate change as a cyclical reality.

>>136566126
>implying the beams needed to be a solid wall
aluminum mohs hardness = 2.75
steel mohs hardness = 7

aluminum gives way to steel everytime.

>>136566195
you do know that the geoengineering crowd openly admits what chemtrails are, don't you?

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>>136566126
Are you retarded? You think buildings just stand on their own?

>>136565636
Vaccines work but the programs are still mechanisms that could be used to to mass sterilise a country or scan for the bloodlines of jesus.

>>136565636
Show me one example in all human history of a building collapsing at free fall speed after being in fire.

>>136566126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwc49cZKunQ
>tfw the twin towers were pretty much solid steel

>>136566475
>scan for the bloodlines of jesus
you're on the path.
this is why the human genome project was created.

>>136565957
That is a lovely pay pai. Saved.

>>136566349
which would win, a wood 2 X 4, or a brick wall?


Resulting from the extreme velocity due to tornado winds.

Physics. Mass times velocity = Force ( F = MA )

>>136566220
This is how dumb these people actually are. They themselves don't know a single thing about climate data or science but think that because you don't believe that "mainstream" scientists that you are some sort of creationist science denying Christian.

>>136565941
This is difficult to argue, because leftists can always pull out the unfalsifiable "social construct" meme. Even resorting to chromosomes and sexes doesn't work, because nature doesn't know "ought".

What can be done is showing what deviance from the 2 gender norm and role separation does to a society. Demographic collapse, ballooning social and welfare costs, rising criminality, mental illness and unhappiness due to unstable family structures and enforced negligence (in addition to not having male role models, single mothers have to work and have no time for her kids)... The list is really, really long, and quite well documented.

Don't argue from morals. Show instead where the road will lead.

>>136565636
I agree with all that, doesn't mean we don't have to get rid of the intruders and enact proper nation states again...

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>>136566662
>>136566668
>>136566698
also checkem satans.

>>136566592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo8OuQUcpGo

reminder that wood is denser than brick.

>>136566480
All of human history.. planes and skyscrapers have been around for a tiny fraction of that time. In that tiny fraction, a planes that size, going at those speeds have never hit a building that size.

Other (smaller) planes have hit other (smaller) buildings at lower speeds without collapse. If there were other incidents in this fraction of human history with building and planes of similar size and similar speeds involved, you'd get similar results.

>Vaccines work
They also have side effects that can and do kill.
You also don't need them if you don't have massive immigration from 3rd world shit holes.

>Climate change real
HAHAHAHAHA

>>136565636
Incredible. A normal person on pol. Good for you.

So then why didn't the building sections topple over if the beams weakened rather than melted. Instead it collapsed straight down as in a controlled demolishion. Check mate faggot.

climate change might be real but man made climate change isn't

>>136566978
How do you understand exactly whicj way the building has to fall if superconputers are necessary to predict it. Even experienced demolition crews make mistakes. The sheer weight and mass of the building allowed for it to only fall straight down would be my guess.

>>136567048
You are way too sure of your assessment. There is data backing man made climate change. Not all data ofcourse. Thats why the only sensible answer is to say we dont know for certain if its man made but its a possibility.

>>136566978
Because of its mass. There are also some sections that toppled over, if you watch videos of it you can see these sections falling at freefall, and bypassing the point of collapse of the entire budding at the time.

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>>136565636
>Earth is not flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wznf3k57fA
>Vaccines work
http://www.vaccinesrevealed.com/
>We've been to the moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSZX3mW7Du4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr6Vcvl0OeU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr6Vcvl0OeU
>Chemtrails aren't a thing
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/documents-2/
>Climate change is real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxRk-9o9QOA
>Jet fuel doesn't need to melt steel beams to cause collapse. It just needs to burn hot enough to weaken steel beams until they're soft enough to bend under the massive weight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsPIj3qMGLY

>>136566897
Why are we smashing tiny particles together at high speeds instead of really big plane or building sized things if it also hasn't been done before? It might even be cheaper, this must be the real conspiracy.

>>136567278
fuck off jew

>>136565636
>Vaccines work
Good goy, never question new vaccines on the market, just take them.

Fall in line, goys. Ask no questions

>>136566094
Nobody geoengineers with anything resembling chemtrails though. It would be very impractical and unneccesarily expensive and would have so little effect. When they dump chemicals onto clouds they do it with planes similar to those that drop pesticides which needs to be done as close to the target as possible because if the chemicals spread too much then it's just inert stuff like dust and rocks.

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>>136566978
The WTC was not like a stone building, where the destruction of an outside wall causes lever-like action to induce lateral motion during the fall.
Instead, the beams are located on the inside, and they're relatively close together. When a few beams collapse due to weakening, the others have to suddenly bear their load as well and can collapse without being overly weakened themselves.
All the load-bearing beams being on the inside means that the resultant force vector from carrying additional sections will have a sharp angle - the lever is much shorter than in a "regular" building - so any fall won't gain much outward motion before the next beam collapses (and with it the lever).

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>>136565636

"Great art picks up where nature ends."

"Art is not a thing; it is a way."

"If art reflects life, it does so with special mirrors."

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>>136565636
>Jet fuel doesn't need to melt steel beams to cause collapse. It just needs to burn hot enough to weaken steel beams until they're soft enough to bend under the massive weight.
Correct. But there was not enough energy and the fire not hot enough to reach even those temperatures in enough of the structure to cause the catastrophic collapse that occurred. Why don't we see the same happen in much bigger fires in high rises structures anywhere else, ever?
At least the FSB had the sense to say the """terrorists""" used bombs in Moscow apartments.

>>136567374
A Gish Gallop is always fun

>>136566397
got any papers by doctors of geoengineering?

>>136567842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

>>136565636
So why was there molten steel spraying out of the buildings you retards?

>>136567981
>Shows flexibility of glowing hot metal.
Anon, do you have a profound learning disability?

>>136565636

Then explain the molten lava in the ruins of both towers.

Fucking sage

>>136565636
wouldn't they then topple over and not collapse like a demolition?

>>136568015
Probably because it wasn't steel

>>136566126
>Implying WTC didn't have an external frame made of steel.

>>136567842
You don't see it elsewhere because very few buildings were ever built like that. Using only steel as the support in a tube-frame building was largely a response to union corruption and control of the NY concrete industry in the 60's.

>>136566349
>t. doesn't know what mohs hardness is

>>136565941
Meh, I'd argue this one with you simply because like >>136566668 said, gender is a social construct that was necessary for early cultures. Men hunted, women did village stuff etc. Gender and sex are different. Sex is needed for medical and scientific reasons, gender is a social construct based on sex. Just like time is a social construct based on the natural day and night cycle of the earth. A day is an arbitrary unit of time that would mean nothing to someone not of this planet, but that doesn't mean a day can't be measured. Gender is arbitrary too, but can be stated.

>>136567851
I didn't post to debate you, i posted because I hate you.

>>136566774
Die newfag

>>136565636
What about elite pedofile rings?

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>>136565636
Now you know why it collapsed

>>136567615
Anglo society is full of jews. I never met a jew.

>>136567616
It's not like they just develop a new one and release it. The process takes at least a decade.

>>136566668
The only "social construct" is the definition of the word "gender" which was just another word for "genus" until it suddenly became an identical meaning parallel to the word "sex" until they took the word and twisted it into whatever "social sense of awareness" the fuck it is today. Modern use of "gender" is the same bullshit as those Creationists who ignored the Taxonomic Ranks and tried to push their shit with manipulative wording by calling things "kinds".

What a surprise, "gender" used to be closer to the word "kind" than "sex", same manipulative bullshit that will allow them to constantly break things down into further and further vague subcategories, which allows them to endlessly push their "X now exists and is oppressed, we must exploit this made up inequality of outcome".

>>136568268
>gender is a social construct that was necessary for early cultures. Men hunted, women did village stuff etc
Men hunted because they were bigger and stronger, and women did village stuff because they were pregnant and couldn't do anything strenuous. It was a purely natural biological outcome, not one in which the cavemen sat down and decided upon.

>>136568539
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church

>>136568995
The concept of gender (which predates the English language) is merely a linguistic categorization of words into masculine, feminine and neutral. Language is a social construct. Humans don't have gender, words do.

>>136565636
Gender and race are linguistic constructs built on top of sex and ethnicity in order to manipulate the public perception of sex and ethnicity. Very hard to challenge the idea of ethnicity, much easier to group ethnicities into "races" and then dismantle those groupings as utterly meaningless. Well no shit they're meaningless, you made them up

>>136568995
Yes, I'm aware of the biological differences of men and women, thanks professor. However, genders spawned from this. Again, they can be stated as a social construct. You can call yourself whatever gender you please; male, female, attack helicopter. It doesn't matter. It's simply a language identifier, but for societal purposes, they are an actual thing that can be stated. That's why it's different from Sex.

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>>136565636
Then why did this not collapse

Why did the only three steel framed high rises ever in history to allegedly collapse due to fire happen on the one day in the one complex

>>136568995
Going to add on to this >>136569589.
Laws are social constructs, that doesn't mean you can pick and choose which ones to follow. The letter of the law was written by man, but they still exist and need to be followed or their are consequences. They are not tangible, they are not "real" but they exist.

>>136568086
There isn't more than one or two vague eye witness reports of this

>>136569718
I would say that could be argued because that building wasn't hit by a plane. That is just a fire. The levels hit by a plane would be structurally weaker, and would collapse from that point. The extra weight from the collapse could cause the rest of it to collapse as well.

>>136566897
It has nothing to do with the plane wtf are you talking about? The "mainstream" story of 9/11 is that fires caused building to weaken. Like I said previously, show me one example of a building hat has collapsed at free full speed due to fire. You can't. Buildings have existed for a lot longer than planes have so Idk why you think you need a plane to have a fire inside of a building. Things can start on fire without a plane crashing into them.

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>>136569756
There's photos, fuckwit

>>136569871

https://youtu.be/Zv7BImVvEyk

>>136569718
Because they weren't hit by a huge ass fast traveling fucking plane

>>136569871
WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane

Implying your understanding of physic is so shitty you think you can break steel by throwing some diamond at it.

>>136570018
>>136570170
Don't get me wrong friend, I'm not arguing against you. I was just stating, in that picture that you posted of a high rise on fire comparing apples and oranges to the WTC towers. I 100% believe 9/11 was an inside job and there is plenty of proof imo. Just that particular argument doesn't hold water.

>>136569933
That steel isn't molten. Also, hot fires burned in the basement levels for some time.

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>>136570118
a bird did this

a bird

>>136569871
To believe this you have to believe that a building can naturally collapse and yet have every single level of that building blow out a millisecond after the previous one all the way down to the ground level. I choose to believe this is impossible, and that's why a controlled demolition looks like what we saw on 9/11, where a natural falling building is not uniform in its fall.

>>136570379
See
>>136570235
Read the thread before replying.

>>136570267
Fires cannot collapse every single level of a building in a uniform matter at the exact same time. How are you so fucking dumb? People will literally make themselves retarded just to feel like their part of the club.

>>136566349
You don't deserve to live.

>>136565636
Anyone who uses a Hashtag and Science in the same phrase shouldn't be speaking of it to begin with.

I fucking hate how a field I liked for my own personal reasons got fucking infested with these losers.

>>136570326
The nose of a jet is hollow, there is a small radar bay which stopped the caving but yeah. A bird smacking into a 350 mph hollow dome will do that

>>136567148
lol

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>>136570326
a plane did this

a plane

>>136570629
Anyone who gets assmad over something so trivial shouldn't be speaking to begin with.

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>>136570896
Nope

Thermite from the Los Alamos National Laboratory did that

You're not convincing anyone

>>136571148
These cuts were made by cleanup crews after the collapse.

>>136570326
>Newton's third law
The force imparted onto the plane was also imparted on the bird. Where is the bird? It's smashed to a million tiny pieces
>>136571148
A boeing 767 plane traveling at 800kph has quite a lot of kinetic energy.
KE = 0.5*m*v^2
= 0.5*170,000*(800/3.6)^2
=4197488888J
~4.198 GJ
>The "ton of TNT" is a unit of energy defined by that convention to be 4.184 gigajoules
Therefore the impact of the plane is eqivalent to that of 1 ton of TNT going off in the building.

You are right though, Mossad planted thermite shape charges to bring down the build just in case.

>>136566558
Continue

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>>136565636


military grade thermite.

Would have found more if the debris and blood wasn't sent to China for scrape instantly.

Zero investigation.

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>>136571841
Bullshit.

The NIST model pretended the central core structure wasn't even there

The chief architect designed the buildings specifically to be able to take a hit from a Boeing 707 with full fuel load

>>136567771
Of course the best and most rational post is ignored by all

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>>136567771

Wrong the outside would have gave way and the beams on the inside would have remained erect. That is why they got rid of the sniff Dogs for two days before the attack and security and had a special team play around in the building for two days. Then on the day of the attack they brought back the dogs and security. You know to make it look like their doing their job.

Off Yourself! I'm Fucking Serious! Do It!

Fucking Off Yourself Nigger!

>>136565636
Only the first one is true.

>>136571841
And it wasn't Mossad, it was the Bush administration

His brother ran security there during the "elevator upgrade"

He also ran security at Los Alamos

Gave him the biggest blank cheque and causus belli in history

Dick Cheney profited billions from Halliburton contracts in the wars that followed

But keep believing your television and buying that shit you don't need. Good goy

>>136566475
Wrong, they don't work.

If they did why would vaccinated people keep getting sick as they do, or be afraid of the unvaccinated?

>>136567278
they rig the data dumb ass.

they've been caught at it time and time again.

>>136568571
Every retard on this board thinks it had a regular gridlock pattern of intersecting beams throughout. No one designed that building to withstand a plane impact that took out one side of a hollow rectangular box combined with raging jet fuel infernos that weaken the internal support beams. The amount of beams taken out on the outside combined with the weakening of steel inside the central column caused the building to be unable to bear the load from the impact point upwards. I'm pretty sure no one will ever build a building this tall using this design method ever again in America at least

>>136571980
This isn't thermite. The amount of thermite needed to bring down the towers would be impossible to sneak in and set up without many (very many) of the wrong people noticing during the weeks/months it would take to set this up.

There was a half ass and fraudulent study claiming they found thermite but that's it.

>>136572387
Why do conspiracy fags always capitalise every word? Something to do with the schizophrenia?

>>136569718
Because the building isn't a hollow tube frame structure that had a hole punched in one side

>>136572714
The "elevator upgrade"

Or believe your television/masters. Why would they lie to you?

How old were you when it happened?

>>136566071
;^)))

>>136566592
mass and acceleration are lower case m and a
>burger education

>>136567835
This

Controlled demolition, Israel did it, fucking end of story.

>>136566668
I'm a male and I like sewing and cooking. Does that make my gender female?

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>>136572423

Keep telling us that!

Maybe someone will eventually believe you.

Blacks have an average iq 20 points lower than whites.

Stand up for science.

>>136572708
Here's the designer himself, faggot

https://youtu.be/9fQlC2AIWrY

>>136572955
No, but it does make a screaming gay faggot.

>>136565636
Why are so desperate that we agree with them? I'm not anti science but why not just ignore the ones who are?

>>136570170
WTC7 was also a hollow tube frame structure. When the main towers collapsed, an outer wall tore a bash in the side of WTC7. This combined with fires burning in the basement from 10 am until 5 pm caused the building to collapse for the same reasons as the other towers. Taking out the integrity of one of the 4 outer walls and weakening the internal beams from fire. One thing people need to realize is these buildings had a very unique design that led to their collapse. If the planes hit the Willis tower in Chicago or the empire state building, I doubt they would have collapsed.

>>136572722

It denotes emphasis.

It also doesn't take months to pack Thermite up and down structure beams. Someone is a fucking piece of shit shill.

>>136573153
Trying a bit too hard

Occams razor is a thing, shill

>>136573153
obvious shill is so obvious

piss off agent smith.

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>>136573070

Thank you. The shills need to die and the faster the better!

They may speak English they may even be your neighbor but they will never be our friend!

DEATH TO TRAITORS!

ON NO ARE CAPS HURTING YOU FAGGOT?

>>136572874
Why would your media masters like Alex Jones, David Icke and Mike Adams lie to you?

>>136573297
Maybe look into it before calling me a shill. I'm still pretty sure us govt knew about it before hand.

>>136573005
Disprove *any* of what I said, shill

How's the weather in Mountain View?
or is it Fort Bragg?

>>136565636

How much GBP does mummy give you for memorizing everything the TV science man says?

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>>136566397
There have been no field trials for stratospheric aerosol solar radiation management (SRM). The first field trials will be conducted in two years. Researchers will spray 1 kg of water and 1 kg of CaCO3 over a remote area to measure changes in radiative forcing.


The goal of SRM is to mimic the sunlight reflecting effect of large volcanic eruptions. This effect was first quantified following the eruption of Mount Pinatubo in 1991, which injected more than 20 Tg (1x10^9 kg) of SO2 into the stratosphere. This SO2 ripened into about 50 Tg of sulfate aerosol and cooled the surface of the earth by about 1 degree Celsius for about a year and a half.


The chemtrail conspiracy theory involves the deposition of materials in the troposphere (passenger type planes can't reach the stratosphere). Materials deposited in the troposphere coagulate and sediment out too quickly to have any effect. The mean lifetime of an aerosol in the stratosphere is about 2 years, while an aerosol in the troposphere lasts about 3 days. This is just one example of why Chemtrail faggots are so stupid.

>>136573387
Who?

>>136565636
>chemtrails aren't real
Nigga please

>>136573243
A conspiracy theorist, mentioning Occam's razor..

My fucking sides, the irony

>>136573497
Bullshit.

https://csiropedia.csiro.au/cloud-seeding/

>>136565864
You have no idea what you are talking about. You can look at material science texts to learn more but you probably don't have the background to understand any of it.

>>136567947
Here: https://keith.seas.harvard.edu/publications
Use sci-hub.bz if you don't have access.

>>136573402
Why look into something so obviously false.

The central columns were the major load bearing structure, not the outer ones, you seem to be denying the existence of the central core.

>>136573609
What makes me a conspiracy theorist?

Go make your boss a coffee, bitchboy

>>136573654
Cloud seeding has nothing to do with SRM

>>136572119
>Boeing 707
a 707 has a max lift off weight of 112,037kg. a 767 has a max lift of weight of 179,000kg. therefore a 767 has 60% more mass and energy.
>>136572423
The security for the airports was handled by the isreali security company ICTS.

>>136573765
Who mentioned SRM?

CSIRO is the Australian Government science agency BTW... chemtrails are real

>>136573840
You really believe the Muslim hijacker story?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm

>>136573860
The faggot who equated renewed interest in geoengineering with the chemtrails conspiracy theory.

Cloud seeding is a tropospheric phenomenon (weather occurs in the troposphere because of the negative lapse rate) and any injection of mass has a transient effect which lasts no longer than a few days.

SRM is not evidence of chemtrails being real. And that's all I'm saying

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>>136573446

You left out the Owner of the building and the planner of the attack!

I'm sure they have nothing to do with their Tribe nor the Attack!

>>136570568
You say it as if you expect all fires in all buildings to have the same effect, ignoring the specifics of this particular event. Primarily, getting hit by a fast traveling large aircraft.

>>136574015
I linked an article from the Aussie government saying yes chemtrails are real and they're doing them

They have been for years, maybe American science is behind Australia's

>>136574181
Yes, you linked that in response to my response to a bigger faggot than you.

>>136573954
No it was an intentional attack lead by the saudi's which the isrealis had prior knowledge of. They wanted the attack to succeed because it would help their fellow zionist buddies (silverstein), and further their agenda for greater isreal. This has been proven as mossad had contacted the US gov before 9/11 to warn of such an event, and ICTS (which works security at some of the port of entry into euorpe) still allows muslim terrorist into europe.

>>136574158

You can't understand that only parts of the top of the building would break away yet people at ground Zero heard muliple explosions and the building fall perfectly with in their foot print. You really need to die whether you're paid to do this or not. Doesn't matter I hope you get hit by a bus or fall in a fissure or nigger culturally enriches you. The sooner the better!

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>>136566056

There is a pic somewhere that showed the initial top section of the collapse wasn't straight down but started toppling in one direction. Sorry, don't have access to it to post here though.

The thing is, large structures such as these skyscrapers aren't designed to support their weight horizontally so when they start to topple sideways, the extra force pushing down on the side of the topple increases resulting in the object collapsing faster downwards on that side. The forces reach an equilibrium resulting in more downward collapse than sideways.

youtube.com/watch?v=SD_T6_9J5A4 shows something similar. The silo is starting to fall sideways. The extra weight on that side causes the structure underneath on that side to collapse more quickly. Before the silo can fall sideways it just keeps pancaking downwards. And due to the smaller size and weight it even allows for this weird walking effect precisely because of that increased collapse rate on the fall side.

Humans just aren't institutionally in-tune with how large structures behave. We hold a stick on the ground vertical and let go, it falls sideways. Because the stick can indeed support the stick's own weight and doesn't snap as it falls. This scale of behavior is where us hairless apes live, we aren't used to skyscraper scales.

>>136574158
Do you work for NIST? why are you trying so hard?

>>136574181
Cloud seeding is not some chemtrail conspiracy theory. It's been established science since the 1940s. Faggots have been having aneurisms over proposed solar radiation management techniques thinking that it proves the government has been blanketing cities with powderized faggotry

>>136573243
>Occams razor is a thing, shill
A plane travelling hundreds of miles an hour hit a building on national TV. That building then fell down

>The plane caused it

>The plane didn't do a thing. It was actually thermite packs on the beams placed there during an elevator upgrade. This was in case we ever needed a proxy war. The president decided to hire terrorists and drag the West into a decades long war because gas was too expensive and it was hurting approval ratings

Obviously Occam's Razor applies here, shills. Planes can't break anything, otherwise, every time a plane crashed, it would break through the hollow Earth. Checkmate cutfags

>>136565636
Or, alternatively, you've been lied to.

>>136565636
>there are only 2 genders
>race and genetics play a big part in determining one's intelligence
>obesity isn't healthy
Still #StandingUpForScience, you fucking worthless commie scum?

>>136574346
bushes were working with the saudis as they wanted to clear the missing 2 trillion from the pentagon.

>>136574405
It's his job.

isn't it agent smith?

>>136574181
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_comprehension

>>136574474
https://youtu.be/rWdcVo6zIYI

An F4 is armored, btw

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>>136565636
>Earth is not flat
True, disinfo shills push flat earth to delegitimize other "conspiracy theories"
>Vaccines work
True, doesn't say anything about possible consequences
>We've been to the moon
Probably, although the footage we have of it is fake
>Chemtrails aren't a thing
Anyone who still refuses to believe chemtrails is beyond saving
>Climate change is real
True, natural one but not man-made climate change

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>>136574474

>>136574474
>some medieval slimes in a stan country plotted the greatest, most complex terrorist attack ever to get the USA to leave the middle east
>some sleazy kikes concocted the greatest get-rich-quick scheme ever

got my noggin joggin

>>136574547
I agree with what you've posted here. Why would you assume I didn't?

>>136574678
That's a much smaller aircraft crashing into a concrete wall that looks to be about 10 feet thick. Why do you think this is a valid comparison?

>>136565636
>Take these statements at face value with no sourced documents that can legitimately support these claims, you idiot twitter user!
#StandUpForScienceGettingHijackedByMyParticularNonDebatableViewOfScienceBecauseIToldYouTo.

>>136574770
You need many more red pills normie.

Vaccines don't work and we've never been to the moon.

>>136574678
>The wall designed to move and absorb energy took the impact well

The WTC was not designed in the fashion. It was designed to withstand an impact from a plane that was significantly lighter than the one that hit it.

A plane weighing 8 times as much as the one in your video hit a structure that was significantly less dense.

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>>136574983
hey disinfo agent

>>136575032
https://youtu.be/9fQlC2AIWrY

>>136575089
lol, if you say so shill.

>>136574865
>greatest, most complex terrorist attack ever
>Fly a plane into a building

Not worth mentioning the fact that their leader was college educated in Western universities, and I don't think as a whole Arabs are the sharpest people, but calling this the greatest plot ever is a stretch. From a casualty standpoint, yes. But this was a hail Mary. This was the Tim Tebow of terror attacks.

>>136574678
that plane is a fraction of the size of a 767.
It also doesn't have jet engines where most of the mass is concentrated. The wtc buildings have a facade of concrete, not concrete walls that are 3 meters thick.
>>136575089
you're quite right. Do you think they found alien structures during the first landing, or did their cameras fail and they just didn't have footage?

>>136565636

Sagging steel beams don't cause a building to somehow fall through 70+ stories of undamaged structure at free fall speed. It flies in the face of basic physics. Use your brain.

>>136575032
https://youtu.be/w_E4Ckuyc6k

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707 vs 767 comparison

>>136575287
His post shows pretty clearly he doesn't have one or if he does it is not functional.

>>136565636
Chemtrails are a thing, though. We use them all the time in SE Texas to seed clouds and stave off drought.

>>136574181
>s-s-see guys? it's r-real... please...
Jesus the cringe levels are off the charts.

>>136568268
This," gender is a social construct," meme is fucking stupid.

Gender is not a, "social construct." Gender means, "man or woman." And no, it does not mean this whole stupid, "gender is what you FEEL like you are."

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>>136565636
(pic related)

>>136574890
That was more directed at the poster of the original tweet, sir, you're good people.

>>136574865
This wasn't some masterful plan, even for Al-Qaeda.

I think the Bush administration, the Israelis and the Saudis knew Al-Qaeda was planning on something, and deliberately didn't really bother doing much about it.. but none of this controlled demolition planned by the Bush admin bullshit.

>>136575125
That man is a project manager, not an architect. He's basically a salesperson for the construction team. He knows money. That's it.

A 20% increase in mass is a huge deal at higher speeds. It's why bullets come in different sizes.

>>136575454
179,000 - 137,000 = 42,000KG difference.
or a 30% increase of mass and energy.
>inb4 30% is not significant increase

>>136575125
>>136575332
These don't take the fire into account. They were right about the impact not bringing them down, but the weakened structure plus the raging fire is what ultimately caused the collapses.

>>136575859
>trying this hard
Doing it for free?

>>136575287
I explained in an earlier post that it wasn't coming down at freefall speed, and that if you watch videos, you can see chunks of debris falling over going at freefall, that clearly fall past the point of collapse at the time.

>>136565636
the jet fuel argument exists not becasue of the collapse of the structure, but because there was actual molten metal and iron found at ground zero.

so check yourself

>>136575965
Then why didn't the mudslime apartment building in England or that high-rise in dubai collapse the same way when they caught fire?

>>136575194
>shill calling me a shill
lmao

>>136575278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU
>mere coincidence

>Do you think they found alien structures during the first landing, or did their cameras fail and they just didn't have footage?
can't really speculate, they might have never been there in the first place

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>>136575965

>>136576055
>never been there in the first place
This is the one and only correct answer
>Van Allen radiation belts

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>>136565636
Don't mind me, I'm just gonna sit here and watch OP get BTFO.

>>136575969
>Doing it for free?
I'm home sick from work and haven't argued on 4chan in a while

>>136572119
>designed to withstand a jet crash
>never tested
The Titanic was "unsinkable" according to its designer as well. It was a selling point he thought would never be tested.

>>136575965
aided with a few thermite charges.
>>136576095
These buildings weren't hit with a plane before hand.
>>136576109
We can shield the astronauts safely enough for them to travel into space.

>>136575965
https://youtu.be/elYw7MHf7GQ

>>136575260
This was the fucking SEALS getting the simultaneous headshots off from the fantail of terrorism.

The (official) sequence of events doesn't seem overly complex? Consider:
>four aircraft depart from three different airports in different states
>all are hijacked successfully with boxcutters
>quarter till nine first plane hits the north tower
>shortly after 9:00am second plane hits the south tower
>half an hour after both WTC towers are burning another plane is flown into the pentagon
>one hour after the first plane impacted the north tower the fourth and final flight crashes in a pennsylvania field

>>136573243
>Ironic.png

>>136565636
What about the hundred stories below that?

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>>136576245
>These buildings weren't hit with a plane before hand.
Neither was Tower 7, you zilch, it was the other two towers that were hit by planes, WTC 7 "collapsed" because of "fires"

>>136576245
>We can shield the astronauts safely enough for them to travel into space.
This NASA engineer seems to disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDBBUwdyz4I
Any other false points you'd like me to obliterate for you, faggot?

>>136565636

Y'all just love this bait.

>>136576290
>all are hijacked successfully with boxcutters

Flight 93

>>136565636
Increased global temperatures since the 1970s correlate to the use of Microsoft operating systems.

>>136576043
>>136576095
A plane didn't crash into them first. Are you guys serous?

>>136576290
How is that complex? Because they happened near the same time? That's how planning works. Go to the nearest soccer field in your town. People are going to show up from ALL OVER. Dude, and they get there within, like, 10 minutes of each other. It's wild.

I can plan that aspect of it within 30 minutes.

The reason they were able to hijack the plane with box cutters is that nobody had experienced this sort of thing before. Hijackings used to mean the plane was going to some weird country, you'd spend some time on the tarmac, might be a hostage, and then go home.

The one in PA crashed because at that point people realized they weren't going home (texts and calls started coming in), and they did what any rational person would do. Fight back.

>>136576621
see this you shill >>136576443

They're talking about Tower 7, not the other two towers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

>>136576528
which was under control of hijackers when they decided to just nosedive into a field. the hijacking was successful. they were in control of the plane. now personally i think 93 was shot down, but whatever.

>>136568244
Nigger I can launch a lead bullet through your head even though it's obviously harder.

>>136576245
>We can shield the astronauts safely enough for them to travel into space.
no we can't Nasa admits it.

>>136565636
It was never about steel beams, it was about no air control and the owner of the building cashing out on insurance and none of his family being on the building.

>>136565636
And then it will cause the structure to slowly collapse at free fall demolition speed.

Not to mention having beams of steel turn to powder and fly upwards when it started falling downwards.

>>136576693
Fine. Think about this from a planning standpoint. You don't want to get caught pulling off this false flag, so let's say something was supposed to happen to Tower 7 that didn't. (Why even wire it for demo, you already have the two tallest buildings in America ready to go). Do we hit the switch and make people wonder why it fell, or do we call it a day on that one?

It makes no fucking sense to do it.

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>>136565636
yeah steal is worse than wood in a burning building ... but still ... the pattern of how the shit collapsed?! Either the engineers who planned that thing thought to themselves "hey lets calculate it that the crumpling of the top quarter makes every steel beam in the rest of building turn to dust" or it was explosives. It just collapsed straight down ... usually it would topple or fall over to one side. would have killed more ppl that way ...
>10/10 g8 b8 guaranteed replies

>>136570896
A plane did not entirely do that. the kikes lined it with explosives and triggered them after the plane hit.

You dumb.

>>136565636

Vaccines do work, but aside from a few things I would rather my kids fight the infections off themselves.

>>136576917
>ok i have no argument as to why this building that wasn't hit by a plane fell the same way as a controlled demolition so now explain to me why they did it, you must know the inner workings of their plans or you're lying

This thread is being shilled to shit.

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>>136565636
Flat earth is made by kikes to discredit radical movements.
Vaccines were proven to cause autism.
The moon is ambiguous, and the US even pretended to lose the video.
Chemtrails are not contrails
Climate change is not global warming

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i know you're all 15 and edgy as fuck but you must realize this isn't a real thread.

This is a honeypot, where unsuspecting freethinkers identify themselves as threats to the thought police. Only trolls, shills, and retards actually believe the 9/11 official story. There is no convincing these people.

The more they make threads like this, in 25 years, to most people 9/11 truth will be just another stupid conspiracy theory.

Tl;dr tons of disinfo in this thread, dont discuss 9/11 truth with robot shills.

>>136577082
It fell because fire weakened the internal structure, and an errant piece of debris took out a supporting wall. I'm telling you to just look at the sequence of events for what it is, and try to use logic.

Let's say that piece of debris never hit the building and the fire never started. Would they have just blown the building the fuck up?

>>136566056
>How did it fall so perfectly straight?
They smashed the shit out of the surrounding buildings, so much so, it caused WTC7 to collapse.

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>>136576491
>this region of space
referring to that from earth to mars. also the journey from earth to mars is much longer therfore the astronauts will be exposed to more radiation.
>>136576443
>>136576693
They wanted to keep building 7 as it didn't have asbestos. But it got heavily damaged from debris from the other two wtc's, so they rigged it with thermite charges before the fire spread.

>>136577279
>Would they have just blown the building the fuck up?
>Would they just have blown the building up? Use your brain they wouldn't do that because then people would question it, nevermind me not questioning it

>>136577089
Shills shilling a shill thread?

Who woulda thunk it?

>>136576908
You missed the earlier post about freefall speed.

Seriously, does anyone read through the thread before posting?

>>136574770

Thanks for typing it out. Anytime you see "the earth isnt flat" in an arguement you know the person is retarded or disingenuous.
OP IS A MASSIVE FAGGOT

>>136576642
Can you not read? Wipe the cum out your eyes. I just told you why it was complex you faggot. What would have happened if 11 was delayed? Or maybe 175? What the fuck would you have done then, asshole? You fucking dipshit. KYS. Done with your smarmy passive-aggressive bullshit. Were you even a twinkle in your daddy's eye in 2001? I doubt it.

136577355
>this region of space
Being immediately outside of the Earth atmosphere and magnetic field, you fucking moron. Radiation fields generated by the Earth's magnetic field aren't going to be anywhere near fucking MARS.
Fucking braindead shill, no more (You)s for (You)

>>136577392
Yes, I would question a building falling for no reason.

>>136565636
>earth is not flat
true

>vaccines work
true

>we've been to the moon
true

>chemtrails aren't a thing
true

>climate change is real
true, doesn't mean we're causing it though

>>136572708
Exciting.

Tell me about building 7.

Tell me why at the Pentagon, there was only that one shitty camera.

Tell me why the heroes of flight 93 flew their plane directly into the ground.

Tell me why the standard response to aerial attack, in place since the early 1960s, was not immediately activated after the first plane on 9-11 went off flight path?

You a fag, nigga.

>>136576767
no they don't.
>>136577543
>what is cosmic radiation?
Here's your (you)

Vaccines are for fags. I don't have them, recently I went to a third world country and I did not die, the jews lied

>>136576917
To you.. Beczuse youre a fucking nigger normie.

>>136577532
>What would have happened if 11 was delayed?
The attack would have been less extensive, I'd imagine.

>Or maybe 175? What the fuck would you have done then, asshole?
See above.

>Were you even a twinkle in your daddy's eye in 2001? I doubt it.
No. I was a ten year old kid.

>>136577663
>there was only that one shitty camera
No there were up to 40 camera's. 10 camera's on the pentagon had some sort of line of sight to the plane, and video footage from neighbouring business where seized.

>>136567374
>pastor anderson
OY VEY THOSE NASTY RACISTS BTFO!
BBC FROM A BASED BLACK MAN FOR ALL MY KIDS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz3ccSJtJXA

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Follow the money.

Alefentis was a plant to influence US politics with Rothschild money.

How does a pizza shop owner become one of the 50 most powerful people in DC?

>>136577620
fucken blue pill normies. KYS

>>136565864
Translation: I'm a retard that doesn't understand basic physics

>>136565636

It was confirmed that the dox of Anon5 was a false flag. Now the shills are doing massive damage control.

>>136566168
Every time Nazis do something cool, like go to the moon, there is someone there to call it fake... The moon landing was fake, the Earth is flat, all science and development is fake. It's all a conspiracy to make you think White people are smart and can do excellent things.

>>136574015
Cloud seeding is chemtrails you mong. You think they just spray water up there? No they spray chemicals.

>>136567148
yea, but what about the large vertical steel pillars? you think they just smooshed together from top to bottom and made a tiny little brick at the bottom... idiot

>>136574246
>>136574415
>>136574636
>>136575573
What do they spray to seed clouds? Magic fairy dust?

>I'm calling it by a completely different name ergo there are no actual Chem trails being sprayed.

Cloud seeding is just a public friendly way of saying hey we are lacing your atmoshpere.

>>136578367
>implying water isn't a chemical

edumacation

>>136577089
Thats because its a shill thread.

sage

>>136578566

Silver iodide and aluminum nitrates, amongst other things

You're shilling for that too, now?

>>136570267
The steel is molten....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmuzyWC60eE

>>136568710
lucky you,
when you do,
meet a Jew,
offer him a brew,
but hill him too

>>136578821
Just bored. You guys are as easy to bait as sjws on tumblr

>>136579024
that steel thinks it's hot shit

>>136579024
>offical account:
this is molten aluminium, not steel. the aluminium is from the aircraft
>my understanding:
One of the thermite charges got triggered due to immense heat of the fire.

>>136565636
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW THE BUILDINGS FELL..............IT PUSHES THE JEWISH SUPREMECY< WORLD ENSLAVEMENT AGANDA

woops capslock

>>136579561
bullshit, molten aluminium is silver not orange.

also the outside facade of the building was aluminium. The electrolytic corrosion caused by it was the real reason the buildings had to be demolished.

>>136565636
As an actual aerospace engineer I can confirm 1, 3, and 4 are true, and everyone who argues otherwise just sounds really stupid to educated people.

>>136579788
It wasn't pure aluminum, there were organic materials present which would give it that color. Plus, aluminum can glow that color at certain temps.

>>136576245

Wtc 7 was not hit by a plane...

>>136576621

Wtc 7 was not hit by a plane

>>136580534
>>136577355

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>>136576917
To get rid of documents that would have proven corruption between the gov and banks.

>>136565636
Normie comes to 4chan. Takes the b8. Autism. Many such cases.

>>136580767
Also the pentagon has 2trillion dollars "missing" from its books. The CIA had front originations in the WTC towers which held such financial information. As did the the wing of the pentagon that got hit.

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>>136580589
see
>>136577355

A building fell on top of it and it burned all day.

>>136580767
Which could be done without demolishing an entire huge ass building.. Which wouldn't guarantee destruction of all documents. Many things were recovered during cleanup. Not every square inch was pulverized to dust.

>>136581508
it's a recreation of the destruction of Solomon's temple

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>>136581102
Thats's true my red-pilled islander.

>>136565636
Because bent steel beams allow a tower to fall at 9.8 m/s^2. ANOTHER SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE MORON.

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>>136565636
>Jet fuel doesn't need to melt steel beams to cause collapse.

what is the explanation for WTC7 ?
what is the explanation for the excessive ground heat after the collapse
>mfw hot enough to melt aluminum 2 weeks later...

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>>136581361
>it burned all day.
The fire fighters managed to subdue the flames long enough to allow for a team to get inside and plant explosive charges.
>>136581508
>the government lead recovery operation is going to share any incriminating information it finds
Also all three (four if you count shanksville) black boxes were found, but you'll never hear the NIST confirm that.
>>136581737
finngolians are the greatest race in the world.

>>136582119
>The fire fighters managed to subdue the flames long enough to allow for a team to get inside and plant explosive charges.
Show me evidence of this happening.

>>136568137
thank you! the whole outside of that building was steel. that plane would've exploded on impact and barely made a dent in that building. baka morons

>>136574390
That was hardly falling into its own footprint. You are a fool and a liar.

Nukes don't exist

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>>136582377
just look at that. beams on the outside beams on the inside. aluminum plane ain't doing shit to that structure

>>136581508
>fire hot enough to weaken steel miraculously leaves passport intact

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>>136565864
>all dat glass
>not knowing all the loadbearing structure is at the center of the tower
>dem immense steel engines
>all dat combustible material in the plane and building

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>>136566349
>muh mohs hardness
So if you hit a diamond with a hammer you think the hammer just bounces off or what?

How is /pol/ actually this retarded?

https://youtu.be/Wq-0JIR38V0

>>136565636
Jet fuel doesn't need to melt steel beams, it just has to ignite the thermite and shaped charges that the renovation crew put in about a year ago.

>>136582724
of course, diamonds are the hardest metal known to man

>>136566668
>This is difficult to argue, because leftists can always pull out the unfalsifiable "social construct" meme

Gender as a social construct was falsified decades ago by the david reiner experiment

https://youtu.be/jpMzkIR1ymw

>>136583290
yeah still in their heads its an axiom that stands as a pillar of their world views from the beginning of time til all eternity.

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>>136565636
>Jet fuel doesn't need to melt steel beams to cause collapse.

That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>>136582119
Thank you, Dr.Red-pill.

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>>136583493
>muh not molten steel beams melting bedrock

>>136574390
I think there's news footage of what you mention with the top going to one side.

>>136583734
>>136583493

>>136574348
Eyewitness accounts has been proven to not be reliable. Besides, all that weight crashing down at free fall speeds should sound like explosions. Nevermind all the chair and sounds prior to the collapse.

>>136565636
Look at the ground zero photos, the support beams are not twisted and bent, as you would expect from a collapse.
They are sheared off in straight lines.
This means that the beams were severed. This had to have been caused either by burning jet fuel or controlled demolition

>>136583295
Two things about this video
1. He's talking about the Boston bombing, not 9/11
2. Something being a conspiracy doesn't mean it was a false flag. Terrorists can conspire to attack a country.

>>136565636

Climate chance is real werere going into an ice age.

Global warming is a hoax to exploit n exttort more taxes

>>136583917
Do you even believe that bullshit yourself shill?

>>136583987
https://youtu.be/ZMlMqGwGwGc

>>136583290
You're missing the point, gender as Liberals define it is exactly what we think anyways. They're saying that sex is biological, but "gender" is how others percviev you.

So a man can have the same sex organs, but people will treat him like a woman if he's being a pussy. Likewise I will be the fuck out of a dyke who lays hands on me.

So by their own definition, someone cannot identify their gender and force it on people, because gender is literally (by leftist definition) what other people think you are.

It's just like ethnicity versus race. Your ethnicity is your genetic identity, and race is what other percieve you as. If a Mexican is dark enough, then someone is defintely gonna call him a nigger. Likewise my gf is Irish-Kenyan, but Ethiopian people have called her whitey or cracker.

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Yea, it weakens the steel so its soft enough to bend at perfectly clean angles.

>>136575287
That isn't how structural engineering works. Every building is a house of cards, remove one piece and the structure is compromised.

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>>136565636
>there are only two genders

>>136584494
>house of cards
>remove one
really? that is how you americans build houses? i am studying that shit and in germany for houses bigger than your one family 180sqm house you have to calculate the structure for STRuctural failure. and for A (Anprall = impact) you have to actually calculate the building with some structural parts missing, due to an impact.
but hey .. redundancy is for stupid idiots right?

>>136584494
utter bullshit, everything is over engineered to be 4-10 times stronger than it needs to be even under the most extreme stresses it is likely to experience.

>>136581361

Not arguing that it was an inside job or anything else really, just stating the fact that it was not hit by a plane... because it wasn't

>>136584826
>>136584777
>>136584494

https://youtu.be/w_E4Ckuyc6k

>>136565864
A steel structure was penetrated by these microscopic orange bombs.

>>136565636
Yeah yeah... if you question any of this you are a mentally ill domestic terrorist.
Obama is out if office, in case you noticed.

>>136565864
and yet a water jet can cut steel. thanks for the fake science

>>136568137
>>136582562
Hollow steel.
>>136582418
No it did not. the towers took out many smaller buildings.
>>136582296
>Rudy Giuliani has "bunker"/""command centre" on 23rd floor of WTC7
>firefighters helping secret services to search for the black boxes on WTC 1 and 2
>Firefighters radio have a "communication error" leaving firefighters unaware of orders to pull out of WTC1 and 2 leading to their deaths, even after the black boxes are found.
>initial fires on WTC7 are started by falling debris from other two buildings
>Put out easily by fire-fighters to see corner damage>>136577355
>More secret service people still rushing inside to "make sure no one is left inside" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLqGRv7CQlc
>"Giuliani administration’s decision to run fuel lines up the side of the structure [to the bunker], in violation of safety ordinances." -
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2004/05/comm-m22.html
>fire starts back up and rages
>fire burns long enough for people to think the building is going to fall any minute
>famous "pull it" command given
>controlled demo of WTC7

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>>136565636
OP pic related translation: HURRY UP AND DO WHAT WE SAY YOU FUCKING PEASANTS GIVE US A MONOPOLY ON YOUR MIND NOW

>>136585038
Yes and the jet which hit the buildings had 30% more mass / energy than what was accounted for. The saudi's thought this was enough to bring down the WTC towers alone.

>>136587381
>>136575454

>>136587535
>>136575936
retard

0.5*42,000kg*(800kph/3.6)^2 = 1037026667J more energy

>>136565864
An aluminum bomb traveling at subsonic speed can penetrate plenty of shit.