Explain to me how would banning sugar be bad for the World? Sugar

>>136561654
Isn't sugar's effect just alcohol without the inebriation? Dunno if it's worse than that, but maybe the massively higher consumption offsets that.

You think all these processed sugar-filled foods came about for no reason? It's how you keep hordes of subhuman docile. No need to ban it, it serves a purpose.

>>136561654
>Explain to me how would banning sugar be bad for the World?
the human body requires some intake of sugar each day or you will actually die.

you can ban high fructose corn syrup though.
that shit is straight out poison.

>>136561823
Sugar gives you diabetes in the long run and takes your energy away. It makes you sleepy.

>>136561654
People should be allowed to choose to eat, drink and smoke bad shit if they want to... people who have no self-control and go overboard and get ill from over-indulging shouldn't make shit bad for everyone else.
Banning shit does nothing but ruin it for a majority who don't abuse it.

>>136561654
Sugar is literally a nutrient required in a balanced diet. Nearly all sugar substitutes are far worse than sugar itself. The problem with sugar (as with salt) is overconsumption. People need to have better self-discipline. As opposed to banning things to save the idiots, we should leave them to the results of their ill decisions and use them as an example of failure.

>>136561953
There is "some" sugar and salt in everything you eat. There is no reason to add extra sugar to that.

>>136562008
And you are going to pay for their bad decisions via NHS.

>>136561654
if you try to take sugar from me ill kill you

>>136561953
You're 100% correct about HFCS. I was in the US recently and it was in everything (even the milk). I felt genuinely sluggish and sick from the food. It tastes like shit as well.

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>>136561654
>banning fruit and vegetables

>>136562256
You sound addicted.

>>136561654
I don't think an outright ban would be effective. Simply by the nature of being contrarian some people would rally against it. You'd have retards in the street eating bags of sugar as a protest.
You could tax it out of widespread use, or at least regulate it somewhat. The issue is that people spent their whole lives eating food of every sort that had sugar added. Sugar is part of their cultural norm now.

I'm with you though. Sugar absolutely is the root cause of type II diabetes, and its the sole cause of the obesity epidemic. We spend over a hundred billion dollars per year in the US to treat heart disease alone and that is virtually all sugar.

>>136562008
Sugar outside of fruit is genuinely not good for your body. Your tolerance for processing sugar is actually very low, and having high levels of insulin regularly enter your blood stream is terrible for you. It effectively is a growth hormone.
You shouldn't be eating over 20g per day.

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>>136562323
Nah, only crystalized sugar.

>>136562271
You wouldn't feel sluggish from fructose. It creates energy. You had the flue.

>>136562329
sugar is my only joy in life

>>136562352
>You shouldn't be eating over 20g per day.

what if i eat 10 times that amount a day

>>136562450
Maybe if we free your from your addiction you would start looking for alternatives? Maybe sex and family?

>>136561654
you need the energy for toilet cleaning m8

>>136562504
You will develop diabetes by your 40's.

>>136562450
Thats a real addiction, dude. Start lowering your intake, stop drinking soda, stop eating cookies, and start exercising.
You need to get your dopamine drip from exercise, not from eating sweets.

>>136562504
You would put yourself in pre diabetic state in a short amount of time if you were consuming that much. Even 100g per day is extreme.

>>136561654
wtf is that in your pic?

>>136562538
no i tried that already and now my heart is dead
sugar is my only friend
this isn't satire
im serious

>>136561654
Those cocoa puffs look fucked up

>>136562637
Looks like oats with hazelnut, brown sugar, and honey.

>>136562625
i drink at least 5 sodas per day at 40g a piece

honestly it's great
i enjoy the caffeine too
coffee makes me ill

>>136562637
Porridge with nuts, hot water and a spoon of dark honey.

>>136562637
caviar

>>136562746
>>136562821
Thank

>>136562649
Sugar kills your libido and makes your dick flat you moron. You need to wait longer for results. Shit won't revert to the natural state in one month after years of abuse.

>>136562777
Bro what do your teeth look like? Washing your teeth in acid like that is terrible on top of all the other issues.
You need to love yourself, and that means doing whats good for your body.

>>136562538
>sex and family
Are you advocating what I think you're advocating?

>>136562848
Oats mixed with hot water release natural sugar in form of that white glue.

How about you learn some self control? Quit trying to project your problems elsewhere.

>>136561654
Banning sugar would literally make everyone smarter and more in control of themselves but depression will skyrocket. Don't forget the withdrawal symptoms those who were born off sugar will experience.

>t.sugartooth

>>136563042
You know god damn well that normies can't control themselves.

>>136561953

Yeah, this. Plenty (all?) of fruits and vegetables naturally contain sugar. Nothing wrong with that at all.

HFCS is from Satan, though, and tough to avoid entirely.

>>136563079
>but depression will skyrocket
Give them a war to keep them busy.

>>136562906
my teeth are ruined

>>136563091
What if I do pot to tolerate the stuff on pol? Mutilation or rape doesn't even make me flinch anymore.

>>136563155
What woman would want you now?

>>136563179
Maybe you should leave /pol/ and stop burning money just to force yourself into staying here? Bee yourself.

>>136563141
I guess it's a good thing because it will make people seek out new stuff to do than sit down and eat ice cream or sweets to cope.

>>136563190
You're right. Oh wait. We have dentists.

>>136561654

>eating bird food

>>136562400
Hey fuck you slav nigger, you can't fucking stop me from making cookies for Christmas

>>136563266
Can you afford a dentist at this point?

>>136563259
Where? With what? I don't even live somewhere I even like. I haven't spoken to my old friends in 6 months.

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>>136563259

>Maybe you should leave /pol/

It doesn't work like that

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>>136563130
>>136561953
>>136563347
can u stop

>>136563340
Yeah. It's expensive. I drink carbonated water now. Brush often and see the dentist often.

>>136563130
A small amount of fruit has all the sugar you could possibly need. If your body intakes excess protein you'll eventually turn it into sugar for energy. Things like carrots are complex carbs and will break down into sugar. Your metabolism is a near perfect system.
You literally do not need added sugar in any form. It is something we never had in our diets until the 1800s.

>>136563155
If you know its bad, and its harming you, why keep doing it?
Genuine questions. Have you ever thought about it before? Addiction specialists now are staring to look at things like smoking as a type of self harm. Knowing you're doing something bad to yourself but continuing to do it absolutely is masochistic. Your consumption of soda is akin to smoking.

If you think you're deserving of punishment subconsciously you need to sort yourself out to get to the bottom of your addiction and free yourself from it.

>>136563307
1 Kg for 1 USD in store
cheaper in the mill

>>136563190
women only hurt me badly. there is no love for me. only loneliness and death. and sugar.
>>136563340
i can. too depressed right now.

i also really like hazlenuts

>>136563502

Should add granola to it, anon.

Would be 4x better.

>>136561953
noob, be more specific, the human body uses carb, carb is converted to sugar, different type of carb food sources have different level of glycemic index, sugar is at 100
obviously people don't need refined sugar, just carb from breads, rice and oats

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>>136563560
granola/muesli is expensive as fuck in Europe

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>>136562222
are you going to pay for the massive increase of law enforcement to crack down on illegal sugar?

>>136561654

Uhhh.. No it wouldn't you commie. It's retarded liberal bull shit like this that made Bloomberg the laughing joke of the world when he went after salt and soda.

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>>136563447
The AHA puts their stamp of approval on sugary children's breakfast cereal.
Here you see them recommending fruit juice, which is worse for your health than soda itself in terms of sugar content.
For decades, the AHA pushed trans fat containing margarine as opposed to butter, they encouraged people to eat refined grains instead of meat...

I wonder how many lives the AHA is responsible for killing with its bad advice.

>>136563647

Well you're halfway there, if you can get oats.

Also use maple syrup/honey instead of sugar, add a small bit of oil or melted butter, mix it all together and bake it @ 300 F for 10 minutes or so on a cookie sheet.

>>136563840
milk is poison for adults
It cases inflamation and finally cause cancer

>>136561953
This is correct. The human body needs at least a piece of Twix or KitKat every day or it will die

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>>136563842
censored

>>136563900
I am using honey you mong! That's the entire point.

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>>136563827
Put some smokey tabasco in there. Its outstanding. The smell is fucking amazing.

>>136561654
>>136561823
sugar isn't a drug you inbred simpletons>>136561930

>>136563925
I always thought that you can starve for up to a month.

>>136564012
You can, but you still need candy and some water every day

>>136563925

add one coca cola can and I agree

fruits are overrated compared to vegetables

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>>136563991
fixed

>>136564005
I hate phoneposting ...ignore that last link

>>136564072
>>136564062
you guys are my allies

>>136564062
Water only. The point of starving yourself is to make your body use its fat.

>>136561654
What kind of nuts are those?

>>136564012
Fat people (300lbs+) can starve for over a year as long as they have water and a few vitamins
The original reason for fat stores was to survive without food for long periods of time.

>>136561654
Great idea. Let's ban water too while we're at it.

>>136564231
Hazel

>>136564012
You can stay in a fasting state for as long as your body has available fat to burn. When you're fasting your body is producing higher levels of ketones, and they actually act to preserve muscle tissue. You could technically safely go without food until the point where you started metabolizing the vital fat stores around your organs.

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Fuck yeah, 0 calories!

>>136564302
Should I do it? How to prepare for fasting? Any protips from my Muslim and Jewish friends on /pol/?

>>136564311
that artificially sweetened soda is supposed to be almost equally as bad as the sugary soda.

>>136564409
>How to prepare for fasting?
I want to do this too but I am so lazy. All you need to do is just drink water, and make sure to have some salt and potassium if it is just a 2 or 3 day fast, and probably a multi vitamin for a day+ day fast. I'm just guessing, maybe some one with experience will answer

>>136564174
>The point of starving yourself is to make your body use its fat.
But won't it enter "survival" mode and try to hold on to fat as much as it can to the point where you will get fat more easily after you start eating again?

>>136564552
>for a day+ day fast
*for a 3+ day fast

>>136564409
I used to have bad stomach ulcers from stress and a shitty diet. I started doing periodic fasting when I started eating more gut healthy foods, and cut sugar out of my diet.
The best way to start fasting is to go in small steps, and that begins with extending the time between your meals. A practical example would be eating dinner at 6pm, drinking nothing but water after that, sleep throughout the night, wake up in the morning, and don't eat breakfast for a few hours after you wake up. When you wake in the morning only drink water, no coffee, or tea. Coffee and tea both have compounds that your body has to do extra work to metabolize and that can disrupt the process your metabolism is going through when you fast.

If you can go 14-16 hours easily without eating you can try going a full day.

Carbs make you fat, not sugar.
Unless you're an american.

>>136564409

There is no real preparing, it's purely willpower.

Water only.

>>136561654
Because your body actually needs some sugar. Do they teach biology in Poland?

>>136561967
>takes your energy away
>is the fundamental unit of energy used by the body

>>136564619
sugar and salt are the ultimate weight gain combo even so when they are not combined.
It's a fact.

>>136561654
Sugar is a fucking poison in so many ways. Banning certain quantities of it per consumable would have huge benifits, yeah.

>t. Biomedical science graduate

>>136561654
the problem is not so much sugar but rather decades of crooked nutrition (((research))) that was used as the basis for dietary recommendations

>>136564588
After you lose weight keep you energy intake low. The body won't be able to afford building fat instead of using that energy.

>>136564703
So you are saying that cavemen needed refined sugar? Your body creates needed sugars from the food you eat. You do not need to eat ACTUAL refined sugar.

>>136564677
coffee has 0 calories, right?

>>136564290

thanks

>>136565036
Black coffee has almost no calories. There is technically some small amount, but its so low that its rounded down to 0.

>>136561654

It's a better idea than banning weed, but still a bad idea.

Sugar in fruit is alright I feel. The act of extracting it so that we can consume massive servings of it isn't. There's been hundreds of years of it being acceptable to consume deserts and shit, so I don't think its going anywhere. Its just so much worse now with everything being processed and people exercising less.

>>136565697
In fruit sugar is always coming right along with fiber.

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ITT freedom haters

fuck off commies

>>136565866
You have to protect people from themselves, mate.

>>136566091
spoken like a true european.

>>136561654
Not the government's job to tell me what I eat.

>>136566091
No wonder you were a communist shithole.

>>136566249
>theres nothing wrong with being 500lbs
>I should be able to shoot heroin in public
>sex with animals is none of the government's business
>if you stop me from trying to sell my own children you're a Commie!
>muh rights

We could let society be horrendously degenerate, like you want, or we could make society functional. I'd rather have the latter.

By the way don't know if proxy or real commie. If the latter you should leave POLSKA because a mob of Slav brutes lynching you is not healthy either.

>>136566392
Humans are subhumans.
What can you do? Idiots don't understand reason.

>>136562271
>even the milk
why are you lying?

>>136566458
>there is nothing wrong with the government policing my way of life to fit what they think is ideal
there are plenty of totalitarian states for you to live in.

>>136566724
The government represents the will of the people in here. If it's differen't in the US than you should all neck yourselves

>>136564311
and your alzheimer disease

>>136566724
What a compelling argument. All government is invalid according to you. We full blown AnCap now.

Time to start selling children.

>>136567046
But if there's no government people will default to their philantropic goodwilling nature and no further crimes will be commited

Sugar isn't bad for you. Being a lazy piece of shit is bad for you.

>>136564708
does not necessarily have to be.
It's just what is pushed today. Ketose (acetone) based energy in humans have time and time again been proven to be a more effective fuel source.

Ketosis is the mode your body goes into once you limit the carbohydrate consumption and your body will have to resort to burning fat bodies instead.

I doubt it's some (((conspiracy))) to make people less healthy these days. But people have no clue how wrong they are when they say everything in moderation.

>>136568294
Ketosis is like a back-up system for periods of glucose starvation. It's not meant to be maintained 24/7 for years. Running off of cortisol will come back to kick your ass eventually. Sugar is necessary for optimal metabolic rate and neurosteroid production. You will age faster, you will live a shorter life, your later years will be full of illness.

The only problem with sugar is that it speeds up metabolism, which in turn increases nutritional needs. Nutritious high sugar diet -> god mode. Nutritionally deficient high sugar diet -> illness

>>136568514
Bullshit. Eating minimal amount of calories throughout entire life makes you live longer because free radicals destroy your dna faster when you metabolize food.

Ban sugar
>Human body can't produce any sugar eventually dies
>Use sugar substitutes like splinda literally worse than sugar known to give you cancer in your blood
>In your blood

>>136568694
>see "live longer" as a pro, not a con
>tfw

>>136568694
If free radicals are wrecking your DNA, your diet and lifestyle is shit. There's some merit to saying that people who eat less live longer due to lesser amount of toxins they're exposed to over their lifetime, but people with nutritionally adequate high-calorie diets tend to live just as long.

>>136568694
Not to mention how restricted your life is going to be when you're eating "minimal amount of calories". Your hormones will be shit, your energy will be shit, your cognitive capabilities will be shit.

>>136561967
I gave up alcohol and weed cold turkey, but been sleepy after eating sugary snacks and having the hardest time giving it up, wtf

>>136568514
>>136568594
Ketogenic diets are farm more normal to our evolutionary ancestors than high sugar diets are. We were eating raw meat, organ meats, animal fat, greens, and berries. Although we did likely have grains in our diet they were foraged in extremely small amounts.
Not only is depending on how doses of insulin to control blood glucose bad for numerous bodily systems, but outright consuming sugar is bad for your gut flora, and your entire immune system as a result.

If you adhere to 20g limit then you'll be in a state where you could readily slip into ketosis while you're still primarily metabolizing sugar for energy. Utilizing periodic fasting in this state is the absolute best thing you could do for your health in regards to diet.

>>136569100
Eat more nutritious food and in larger quantities, giving up sugar will become easy then. Sugar is addictive only because it curbs stress response. When your diet is check, stress will be minimal.

>>136568940
What the fuck are toxins? High metabolic rates and breathing damage DNA. Your telomeres get shorter faster. Fun fact, free radicals are required to produce sperm. You are fucked either way but living without stress and on low calorie diet will make you live longer.

>>136564237
but you need proteins or your heart/liver/kidneys could die and then you die and that is not good because it stinks

>>136569077
Bullshit. Hunger boosts your thinking ability and overall creativity. You need to be sharp to get food. It's evolution. Well fed people lose their incentive to think. Fat people literally lose IQ.

>>136564290
Hazel is the Nut Master Race
Caju are the decent jews.
Peanuts are niggers.

>>136564311
to quote Trump, have u ever seen a nonfat people drinking diet coke? also, why buy pepsi if you can buy coca cola? fuckin democrat

Sugar is what you get energy from. You need it to live. Also i prefer a shorter life enjoying food over a long life being a healthfag.

>>136569162
>Ketogenic diets are farm more normal to our evolutionary ancestors than high sugar diets are.

Not true - we've been eating fruits and leaves longer than we've been eating berries and animals. You're thinking in black and white. Animal products are still great even when you consume plenty of fruits. Being intentionally in a state of ketosis for long periods of time is pointless and does not offer any additional benefits to a micro & macronutritionally well balanced diet.

>outright consuming sugar is bad for your gut flora
>your entire immune system as a result

Disagree.


>fasting in this state is the absolute best thing

Although irrelevant to our topic, I agree.

>>136564598
yeah but coffee also has benefits for the colon and the liver (and some say for the heart but research on that area is controversial... while against colon cancer and general liver health it's not)

>>136569482
>Also i prefer a shorter life enjoying food over a long life being a healthfag.
Listen to yourself slave.

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>>136561953

https://corn.org/products/sweeteners/high-fructose-corn-syrup/

HFCS is safe anon.

Don't believe the lies. HFCS is healthy as water.
>>136561654

>>136569533
>we've been eating fruits and leaves longer than we've been eating berries and animals

Source?

>>136569453
my grandmother and my mom drink diet coke all the time and they are thin, i dont drink any soda and im a fat slob. Sad!

>>136569201
>High metabolic rates and breathing damage DNA

Not true.

>living without stress and on low calorie diet will make you live longer

Then I suggest avoiding ketogenic diet, it's a huge stress to the body.

>Well fed people lose their incentive to think.
Not true. When did western philosophy begin to flourish? When the Greeks were well fed and had more time to think

>Fat people literally lose IQ.

Kek.

>>136569575
what? Eating delicious food is one of my favorite hobbies. Taking sugar away will ruin my life.

>>136569625
Our ancestors lived in trees. What grows in trees? Fruits and leaves

>>136569749
and what's in fruit? SUGAR.

>>136569625
It would be better to defuse this fallacy right away before asking for source.
"We do it longer" does not mean it's better. "It's natural" does not automatically make it healthy.

>>136569792
What's your point? Sugar is great.

Being happy makes you live longer that's a fucking fact depriving Everyone of that isn't going to solve anything (also you kinda need a little bit to survive)

>>136569851
exactly. My point is that sugar is great.

>>136569186
Thanks bro, I'm on a every other night snack routine, hope to be done in a month.

>>136569533
>Not true - we've been eating fruits and leaves longer than we've been eating berries and animals.
There is no real evidence to support this. Our adaptations for eating meat and hunting go back millions of years if you trust the loose record.

>Disagree.
That isn't an opinion, its fact. There is bad gut bacteria that depends entirely on sugar to live. This bad gut flora can literally impair brain function and permanently alter brain development in children. Healthy gut flora will eat fiber, they don't need any sugar. Having a high sugar content in your diet objectively is bad for your gut. There is no scientific basis for stating otherwise.

This is no different from what we see in the ramifications of cattle being fed corn instead of grass. The dietary change has a cascading effect on the entire body.

>>136569792
Eating fruit complete with its natural fiber is not the same as eating sugar by itself. Don't jump into a conversation on a topic you lack knowledge on.

>>136569827
>"We do it longer" does not mean it's better

It usually does, because it will mean it's a more innate part of our biological system. The longer we're exposed to something the better adapated we must be to it.

>>136569705
>Not true.
Where are your sources!?
Fucking flat earthers.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0531556501001322

>>136569925
what faggot eats sugar by itself?

>>136569925
>That isn't an opinion, its fact.
Oh boy. Your posts are opinions too. You're not referring to any source, and neither am I. This is therefore a battle of opinions.

>Healthy gut flora will eat fiber,

Fiber is overhyped.

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>>136561654
>hating freedom

Get the fuck out off my board, commie scum.

yeah i'm pretty sure that shit might be required by the body.

>>136570003
Thats what fruit juice is. Thats what soda is. Thats what cookies are.
Sources of highly concentrated sugar that is metabolized completely differently from the way your gut will handle a whole orange slice.

>>136570002
That which is claimed with no sources can be dismissed with no sources. Your claim is that high metabolic rate damages DNA. Your link is irrelevant to this claim

>>136564598
Fuck I feel you man. I was perfectly healthy until one day I got a milk tea style drink from some cafe where they must have fucked up the caffeine amount and when I took one sip it tasted like drinking straight caffeine and my stomach went apeshit. My stomach never truly recovered. Constant nausea, can only eat bananas bread and saltine crackers without puking. One day I hope this will fix itself but life is suffering not being able to eat pizza.

>>136570084
Sugar with B & C vitamins has different consequences than sugar water. Juice and soda are not the same thing.

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>>136569749
>What grows in trees?
Insects? Birds?

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>>136570080
Your body is perfectly capable of surviving on fat alone and doesn't strictly require sugar.

But banning it is still retarded.

>>136570003
I eat about 2 kilos a day. I just buy a 10kg bag and a spoon and start munching away. Of course, I've lost 3 limbs, all my teeth, an eye and one testicle to diabetes, but I just can't seem to stop. Some times i mix in a glass or two of nutella, or a kilo or two of melted butter. Fucking yum!

>>136570180
Soda and juice both have the exact same effect when it comes to disrupting your endocrine system by flooding your body with insulin to control blood glucose.
Neither one should ever be consumed by humans.

>>136570111
Are you baiting me to search for pubmed links on my phone right now you fucking troll?

>>136570183
Sure

>>136570310
Well I don't think you understand what it means to be human.

>>136570337
Not really, that's up to you. I don't care.

>>136561654
There are plenty of things that you could make a good case for banning on the basis of "it does more harm than good."
However, in a free society, citizens should be allowed to choose to do something that does not benefit them, if they wish.

If you want people to change their behavior, then offer education to change the perceptions and desires of society so that the behavior is no longer chosen by most people.

>>136561654
I don't think what people do should be regulated. The government should not be a parent to the people. However, sugar definitely causes a reaction in the brain on par with cocaine. Meaning its just as addictive. Better education on health and nutrition and its involvement in the psychological aspect should be out there. But of course keeping people hooked is maybe just what they want.

>>136570354

>Telomerase Reverse Transcriptase Synergizes with Calorie Restriction to Increase Health Span and Extend Mouse Longevity

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551964/

>>136569925
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>>136569851
>>136569482
>>136569373

also, Apple Cake for the Führer!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614525/2pm-lie-ins-daily-Fuhrer-Cake-Hitlers-former-maid-mountain-retreat-reveals-break-silence-71-years.html

HEIL HITLER!

>>136570595
>However, sugar definitely causes a reaction in the brain on par with cocaine.

This is just a meme. It's not wise to believe everything you read on the internet

>>136561654
Banning sugar is retarded, 28 years now eating sugar and never once got diabetes.
I also walk daily.
Wow it's that fucking hard.

>>136570470
>However, in a free society, citizens should be allowed to choose to do something that does not benefit them, if they wish.

You lose free will the moment you get addicted. Addicts can't stop themselves. They can't choose. Ban shit that is confirmed to be addictive excluding sex.

>>136561953
False, your body can make it's own glucose from fats and protein. You don't need to eat any carbs.

>>136570470
Sugar has chemically addictive properties. It acts directly on your dopamine system. Ifs actually so potent that if you haven't had any sugar in your system for an extended period, and you consume some, the sugar numbs pain sensation. Fucking Jews used to give babies sugar after circumcising them because it was enough to make them stop crying after just getting their dick skin sliced right off.
You think education alone will convince people to give up their addiction? When its in most all processed foods? When their vice is everywhere all around them all day long?

Why don't you eat like a normal person instead, you lard ass? Sugar is as important as the rest of things, only that has to be consumed in proper quantities. Did you ever heard of an equilibrated diet and daily physical activity? You know, that thing that teach you in school since you are 5 and hear it daily in TV and that women love to read that thing over and over again in their magazines.

>>136561953
Yea and you get that amount of sugar mainly from fruit imbecile

>>136570470
Then the government needs to be more consistent.

>You can't do x, it's bad for you
>You can do y, even though related causes kill 300k people a year

>>136570608
http://www.ebiomedicine.com/article/S2352-3964%2815%2930081-5/abstract

>We identify potential drivers of multiple dimensions of the ageing process up to 110 years of age. Inflammation is the prime candidate amongst potential determinants of mortality, capability and cognition up to extreme old age. Telomere length does not predict successful ageing in the very and extreme old, but centenarians and their offspring maintain telomeres better than non-centenarians

Your turn.

>>136570838
cant tell if ur being facetious or just fell for the propoganda.

>>136569533
And that caused us to lose our vitamin C synthesis capability, whereas gave us zero benefits in return.
Eating fruits and leaves are a backwards step, evolutionally and functionally.

>>136570716
>Ban shit that is confirmed to be addictive excluding sex.

That would mean internet, gym, jogging, food etc.

Great society!

>>136570765
You will benefit from it though.

>>136570765
yes, it's false, but must i remind you that making sugar from protein is inefficient and wasteful? that protein could have been used to build muscle or make neurotransmitter or new cells or whatnot... you can get sugar from protein but you can't get protein from sugar :(

fat is a good choice though, especially from fatty fish, eggs or avocado.

>>136570665
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23719144

http://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/experts-is-sugar-addictive-drug

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1931610/

Maybe you should read more than memes

>>136570716
Pleasure in and of itself is addictive.

>>136570971
Backwards step? Oh, do you think you're going to re-gain your ability to synthesize C after quitting fruits? Clever boy

>>136561654

DUDE IT'S JUST LIKE SOMETHING FROM LIKE A PLANT LMAO DUDE JUST TAKE SOME SUGAR MAN IT'S LIKE TOTALLY AWESOME DUDE

>>136561654
Alcohol is sugar

>>136571060
More memes. Post a legitimate study, not one making poor conclusions.

>>136561953
>the human body requires some intake of sugar each day or you will actually die
No you don't.

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>all the retards trying to give pep talks to fat cunts on why they should stop being fat like it's going to reverse the majority being overweight + obese
This is an ineffective tactic. That is the point. This retarded libertarian platitude that every individual is a completely rational actor who will always make the best decision for himself is fucking gay and childlike. There is NO precedent for this. The majority will always make the worst possible decisions if decision-making capabilities are levied to the majority. Fat wankers are the majority. Kicking your feet up like a bleeding-heart liberal pussy is ineffective. It's time to whip the fat cunts into shape legislatively, and if necessary, by force -
enough passivity.

>>136561654
Fuck now I want some sugar

>>136570919
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4645724/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1087185/

>>136571386
Commie scum.

>>136562743
>ctrl-f
>cocoa puffs
>1 match

Thank you anon, glad I'm not the only one that saw it

>>136571561
>unironically being an egalitarian
Yeah, nah, sounds like you're the commie here.

>>136561654
Banning it would create a market for even more unhealthy alternatives, like high fructose corn syrup.

>>136571742
If they showed any consistency at all that would be gone too.

>>136571728
>It's time to whip the fat cunts into shape legislatively, and if necessary, by force

Again fuck off you freedom hating commie scum.

>>136571742
Maybe we should educate children that sugar is cancer just like cigarettes?

>>136571509
So lots of curcumin and avoid added sugar, and lots of antioxidants.

>>136571386
>roads
statist plz go

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>>136571801
You sweating, fatboy?

>>136571943
Yes, live like a Hindu.

Fuck's sake, people
Don't ban sugar, just stop subsidizing and protecting it

>>136561654
Came here to call OP a stupid faggot, left wanting to literally ban crystallized sugar. Well done.

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>>136571328
Denying facts in the face of peer reviewed evidence... fine. Plenty of scholarly articles out there should you want to find there.

>>136563462
>It is something we never had in our diets until the 1800s.

Except the Americans who ate the naturally growing sugar cane. Or the natural sugars of fruit.

>>136572095
I am 182cm tall and I weight 85 kilo. Sorry to bust your bubble, freedom hating commie scum.

>>136561654
What if we just ate more nutrient rich food instead of banning table sugar? Bread creates just as much sugar as a candy bar.

>>136572266
>people keep posting this meme
Eating a piece of fruit is not the same as eating something with added sugar. Average sugar intake per year used to be measurable in grams. Now its several pounds, even in childhood.

>>136561654
Because other countries would do what the US has done and implement whatever the name of the replacement is that is a bajillion times worse for you.

>>136572368
People aren't eating two loaves of bread per day. Two small cookies can contain 10g of sugar. Thats the same amount as 5 slices of my potato bread.

>>136572421
>>136572139
Political suicide and would probably collapse the midwest farm market.

>Average sugar intake per year used to be measurable in grams
Doubt

Sweets have existed since ancient time, anon.

>>136571153
Scurvy is not an advantage now, is it, wise guy?

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>>136572617
It wouldn't collapse the midwest farm market, you ignorant fool. Sugar isn't even grown in the midwest. The climate is wrong.
New Zealand cut their agricultural programs more severely than I just suggested and their agricultural economy improved markedly!
The same thing would happen everywhere that was brave enough to actually do it. Markets give us feasts, socialism gives us famines!

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>>136572617
We can't track sugar consumption back before the 1820s, but we can track import and processing of sugar cane, and we know how it was priced.
Average people weren't buying sugar, especially not in any appreciable amounts. It was too expensive for commoners.

We only had significant amounts of sugar in our diets starting in the 1800s. It is incredibly new for our species, and the uptake in sugar directly correlates to the appearance of diabetes. People have gone through the oldest medical records in the country looking for otherwise healthy people who go into organ failure, who needed amputations, showing symptoms of diabetes. It started right as sugar intake started to increase in America.

This isn't even a debatable topic. Sugar isn't good for your body.

>>136572780
Midwest is corn, which is used for hfcs, which is the sugar that's now in EVERYTHING. You have to remember there isn't enough demand for the kind of things that grow in the midwest, and the economy can't support it, because it's been weakened so much that the switch over wouldn't let it complete even with foreign veg/fruit. We're 50 years down the rabbit hole in every stupid endeavor possible. You don't about face with that without massive destructive costs. I would love to see it, because peppers and tomato prices are nonsense.

>>136573192
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Must

>>136573328
Posting a completely irrelevant wikipedia link won't make you any less wrong. People were not consuming significant amounts of sugar in their diet until the sugar cane industry started booming.

Stop arguing like a 80 IQ shitlib on twitter.

>>136561654
>make everyone slim and sexy.
prove it.

>>136561654
Sugar is poison plane and simple!

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>>136562649
>this isn't satire
>im serious

In that case do I have something to show you...

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>>136574131
At the gay bar, gay bar, gay bar.

>>136570137
Home cooked meals only for 6 months. Dont know why but it worked.

>>136561654
Carbohydrates causes inflammation which leads to disease

Studies are now being made of the link between carbohydrates and alzheimer's disease.

The role of carbohydrates in human metabolism is to provide quick bursts of power/strength, like running as hard as you possibly can for 5 minutes or lifting really heavy weights for a while.

Its toxic to have a lot of carbohydrates in your system with no or limited anaerobic respiration. The vast majority of "work" humans do should use lipid metabolism. Having a constant diet of carbohydrates damages and shuts down lipid metabolism.

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Carbs destroy your brain. Read this book.

Most genetic diseases can be traced back to when humans started agricultural practices and switched from low carbohydrate diets to high carbohydrate diets.

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>>136561654
sugar (glucose) is the body's PRIMARY energy source. don't be a ketofag. the worst thing you can do to your body is stuff it full of high-fat garbage. avoiding processed sugary stuff is leagues minor in comparison to making sure you avoid dietary fat (sans nuts, seeds, and avocados)
it's like you WANT erectile dysfunction, heart disease, and diabetes...

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>>136561823
>"doesn't the body process its primary energy source exactly the same as booze?"
ketofaggery everybody

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but muh candies!

>>136576249
Jesus what a crock of horseshit from a retard yank cunt, refined sugar is absolute cancer and so unbelievably high in energy not even decent levels of cardio will burn it as the body deposits it into reserves very quickly. NATURAL sugar is absolutely fine and accustomed by fibre, it's neither the same impact as refined nor as quickly reserved due to the fibre. Type 2 diabetes epidemic is precisely caused by refined sugar being shoe horned into everything and is mile ABOVE ANY other element in todays food in the damage it's causing you. Americans are fed so much bullshit info funded by and to appease kike industries it's stunning how often you fall for it.

>>136576760
type 2 diabetes is not caused by sugar. it's caused by fat blocking sugar's access to your cells. people on a high simple-sugar diet that's low in fat almost never develop type 2 diabetes, but those on teh standard american diet (read: a high in fat at around 30-45%) get it like the common cold.
it's like you're blaming your mother for getting beaten by your abusive father for not folding the clothes right. the problem is fat, not sugar.

>>136576985
Sugar is eventually transformed into fat you moron.

>>136576249
glycogen is meant to be used for bouts of high power/short bursts of speed

its not meant for daily activity
lipid metabolism is what the body should be using when in states of rest or walking around or doing menial tasks

we eat so much fucking carbohydrates that everyone is used to using glycogen for all energy, that doesn't mean its healthy

doing that makes your body great at using carbohydrate for energy and absolute shit for using lipids/fats for energy, which is precisely the reason why people get super fat when eating carbs+fat

Being in 'ketosis' as a distinct line is also a misnomer, if you eat a normal diet, you are in what would be considered 'ketosis' when you wake up.

If you ate under 50g of carb a day and more fat and protein, the amount of improvement to lipid metabolism (enzyme creation, ketone %, mitochondria production) cleans up all the shit that causes heart disease, cardiovascular problems, etc- those things are only made possible by the INCLUSION of carbohydrates in the system.

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>>136576728

Dude, you ever read about the sugar-free Gummi Bears that Haribo made?

They caused explosive diarrhea. Not even joking.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8gdga4/sugarless-gummy-bears-are-not-safe-for-humans

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>>136577317
>being this much of an indoctrinated ketofag to think that the body's primary energy source is/has always been fat
>"we eat so much carbohydrates"
>most eat a diet of excess of 30% fat
>those who eat <15% fat have the lowest levels of obesity than any other group
>mfw these same people consume 75+% of their daily calories from carbohydrates
CAPTCHA: helicopter. let's take a ride ketofag.

>>136561654
Let's also ban alcohol, tobacco, and restrict marijuana even more. Then let's ban trans fats and meat.

There literally is no need for any of these in a modern society. Humans can easily survive with vegan diet especially with supplements. Cut out everything extra. I also want mandatory weight lifting and cardio routine to be implemented for everyone. Skipping a day without doctor's note would occur heavy fine. Why just go for slim and sexy when you can go for fit, muscular and sexy.

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>>136561654
SHUN THIS MOTHER FUCKER TO DEATH. WE SHALL KEEP OUR FOODS ADDICTING, JUST THE WAY WE ALL LIKE THEM!

>>136577563
>haribo gummibears kills
germans are at it again!

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>>136561654
amen, eat more fat and get lean fuck carbs and sugar go keto

>>136561654
I know the thread will hit post count soon but I'll drop this red pill anyway.

Recent studies have shown artificial sweeteners like sucrose and aspartame destroy gut microbiota and lead to glucose intolerance. They're one of the leading causes of Type 2 diabetes and obesity. Aspartame is also linked to the several cancers. So banning sugar would increase use of artificial sweeteners and lead to a rise in diabetes and obesity, not a decline.

>>136580447
>Ban sugar
>Then ban the artificial shit

Personally I don't think the government should have a say in what we decide to or not too consume, but some consistency would be nice.

>>136561654
You need sugar to make bread dipshit

>>136561953
>the human body requires some intake of sugar each day or you will actually die.
Yeah, 20g, and it can do without it. And it can be any digestible carb.

>>136562352
>Sugar outside of fruit is genuinely not good for your body.

desu not even fruits are very good for you, you should certainly not abuse fruits. And juice is as bad as processed sugar.

>>136562271
Stop lying, lighter shade of Mexico

>>136582380
You can use raw honey, still has sugar content but not refined.