Can /pol/ redpill me on masturbation? How often should a healthy

Also I recognize that porn is unnatural and unhealthy for the human mind and have vowed to never use it again. However, I recognize that masturbation is necessary in order to keep my mind from being overwhelmed with sexual thoughts, I'm just wondering how exactly other /pol/tards go about their self-servicing practices.

Here's my fucking dilemma
>nofap for 2+ weeks
Lose sex drive, don't even wake up with morning wood. Complete Eunuch mode.
>fap 1-2 times a week
Resets my inner demon and I end up fapping every day again.

NoFap is a stupid meme and I hate how people are falling for it.

I would like to know this, myself.

Going just off instinct lately. Porn is clearly degenerate and poison for the mind and should be avoided. Libido has to be channeled somehow, like into a workout or into any kind of work.

I've been fapping once a week to not get fucked by Lilith in my sleep.

(((>>136379165)))

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>>136377211
Have my bump, I want to see where this is going.

Life is better when you don't jack off. Get a wife and have real sex.

Before getting into a relationship I did two long Nofap streaks to reboot away from fapping and porn, one of 96 days, and another of 89.

Nofap changed my life. Porn is pure poison for the body and mind. You're a cuck and fool if you like porn.

>>136377541
Got rid of my porn collection a while back and my erections are slowly but surely coming back. feelsgoodman, even rockhard from just sexting with my date the other night. I haven't been able to fap much since my cock won't rise occasionally now without porn. But I can sense it at times, it wants to. I'm becoming a whole man again.
I never believed the bad stuff about porn but it's true, you become so fucking desensitized and also realized it's ultimately cuckoldry. Disgusting.

Fap limit every 2nd or 3rd day with natural boners sounds good to me. When I'm in relationships I fuck pretty much every night, can't be bad right?

>>136379165
>(((54+RWI7T)))

>>136379165
>>136379378
Really? Prove to me that it's just a "meme". I've done nofap for 9 days before and I felt better than I have in years. Keep in mind that I also worked out every other day which kept my body active and my mind clear. I don't believe it was a "placebo effect" at all.

>>136379165
>>136379378

Isn't masturbation humiliating, knowing that you could have just impregnated a woman?

I feel like this dilemma comes from the destruction of the nuclear family, where babies were being popped out by the dozens from a husband and wife. What does a man do with strong sex drive but no girlfriend or wife? U

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No porn. You wont fap as much.

Problem solve. Move on.

>>136379669
Why are you replying to me? I was calling out the shill, not agreeing with him.

>>136379540
Not sure if I could handle that. I can maybe go three days.

>>136377211
Masturbation should be fucking ILLEGAL! I hate masturbation, everytime you masturbate you destroy the fascist element inside you. Why do you think the JEWS promote it, why do you think the NIGS do it. It's so evil I can't believe it, you think Thor or Loki would do it? No. Masturbation curbs the natural magic forces that is innate in every true Aryan.

>>136379129
it's called flatlining. you'd get over it eventually and emerge as the fabled ubermensch if you had the testicular fortitude (pun intended) to stick it out (pun intended)

>>136379756
Ummm no one faps to porn anyway. And people fapped long before porn was invented so nice bullshit.

>>136377541
if you want the ultimate redpill masturbation will always be detrimental. If you lust you will have an extremely hard time to control yourself. Not masturbating can be done as long as you do not lust, go lift or work hard. It might sound hypocritical but don't use 4chan much, it's filled with lustful pictures. Look at woman at their eyes.


Ultimately read scripture, read the book of James. Copulation is meant to happen with a woman, a wife at that.

>>136377211
I think we can all agree that the biggest problem with masturbation is porn, its just a fact 99% of the people that masturbate will be doing it to porn, porn perverts your view on sex especially on children and is also addicting. Once you are addicted normal porn just won't do it for you then you'll start looking at more disgusting shit. I remember the first time I saw a girl giving a guy a blow job when I was a kid, I found it disgusting in my mind but dick said otherwise and was aroused, same with anal sex. I think everyone does it but if your gonna masturbate do it with a sane clear mind and never use porn.

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>>136377211
I would say none at all and just work on sorting out your personal problems and get a GF.

Still tho male sexuality is extremely controlling to the point we see sex as a necessity.

I wouldn't even be able to give you a "how often" basis type of answer given I look at it as something dysfunctional and abusive even.

In summary jerk off at least 5 times a day to ward off the evil spirits. Seek a priest if all else fails and shit.

>>136379837
I tried Nofap two years ago and gave up because I couldn't get past day one. But then did it last year and went on those long streaks. You can do it if you want to heal. Fapping and porn just wrecks you with brain fog and then eventually PIED(porn induced erectile dysfunction).

>>136381729

Yeah, you should only masturbate to your high school yearbook.

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Read this.

>>136380887
Odin was a cuck

>>136377211
lots of fap is bad and lack of it.

this is nofap lol https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/3oyq0f/nofap_and_iq/

btw you should know that after 2 or 3 weeks it's actually bad to not masturbate so you shouldnt overdo it unless you can get a gil

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>>136377211
Well, I'm in my upper 30's and still have a voracious libido. My GF is a little asian lady, 12 years my junior. Thankfully we have like sex drives.
>Gotta do what you gotta do broseph.

go visit guardyoureyes dotcom

the kikes have been doing nofap way before us, aware that they were of the consequences of porn addiction.

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nofap is the dumbest meme ever created, everyone who posts about it acts like their life was changed and they now have infinite happiness and whatever else comes with it just cause they stopped playing with their dick

you're all literally delusional and lying to yourselves

>>136377211
I more hate the fact that so many people actually still believe the 'there is no limit in masturbation, masturbate as often as you can' bullshit. With all the porn flooding around, the way of masturbation is in no longer natural. Not only does it have a lot of negative effects on your brain, it also leads ultimately to how you treat persons.

>>136379165
NoFap is not a meme, it helps. For those who can't do it, either lack a good strategy (no one says you should do straight 90 days no fap at the beginning. Start out with a week, and try to make it longer. Use autosuggestion and other methods, ban porn from your PC, etc.) or they are simply too stupid to do it, which I doubt.

I classify males that cannot control their masturbation as "beta" males. So, get up your ass and fucking stop fapping and try to integrate a healthy life style again. Trust me, it helps. If you don't believe it, then continue taking that drug. But as you know, overdose sooner or later leads to negative psychological effects.

People denying the benefits of nofap and the damages done by porn use are either retarded or shills

>>136385063
Are you kidding me? Jews are the kings of degenerate porn. Why do you think pizzagate is a thing

>>136385078
>Says the one who most likely believes that fapping to porn is 'normal' and 'healthy'. It isn't, really. Especially not, if it's done too often.

You should read some studies what an overdose of masturbation actually does to your brain and your body as well as your psychological behavior.

>>136385307
Exactly. But I'm showing with this website how they are trying to prevent its usage within their community.

>>136377211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiOWjMaZVbw
Listening to pretty grill telling you not to fap is pretty convincing

I tried not to fap. It worked for a while but it didn't last. It made me feel healthier but not happier.

>>136385307
Exactly this. A lot of porn these days is really fucked up, and it's obvious the more you watch that kind of crap, the more you are desensitized to this kind of degenerate porn.

>>136385296
No, I wouldn't consider them as shills. I more believe they are either victims of this porn crap and most likely fap to it daily or they were once NoFappers, but never had enough willpower to do it and thus now criticize the whole project.. most likely they are just beta males.

I got addicted to furry shit when I was younger

I'm by no means a furry and think they're fucking freaks but naked cartoon animals really turn me on

It's hard for me to play sonic the hedgehog because I always think about Amy's pussy.

>>136377211
bang a whore instead

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>>136385311
people have been jacking off since the beginning of humanity you retarded faggot, theres a lot more evidence for lack of masturbation leading to health problems than there is pseudo-science about nofap "helping me happy fellow r*dditors"

>>136385311
Yes, this anon knows. Just read up on the effects here:

https://yourbrainonporn.com/men-does-frequent-ejaculation-cause-hangover

Redpill me on the harmful effects of masturbation.

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I stole this from leddit:

The more the rat ejaculates, the greater the decease in androgen receptors. It takes about 4 days for the androgen receptors to return to baseline, yet it takes 15 days for the rat to full sexual power. Meaning other neurochemical events are in play. One such study - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12914589#

Not only does ejaculation reduce brain androgen receptors it results in a greater density of brain estrogen receptors. Ejaculation also increases brain opioids that dampen libido. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20875461

As for dopamine, ejaculation initiates structural changes in the dopamine-producing nerve cells of the reward circuit - specifically the VTA. The nerve cell bodies in the VTA decreased in size, and stay that way for at least 7 days (measurements were taken at 1, 7, and 30 days). The VTA supplies most of the dopamine for other reward circuit structures. http://www.jneurosci.org/content/34/26/8825.long

In addition, ejaculation led to the rats being less responsive to injected morphine, indicating a (temporarily) numbed pleasure response. Keep in mind that dopamine is behind craving and wanting, whereas most of the pleasure of sex arises from opioids released in the reward circuit.

>>136385830
Are you unable to read, faggot? Also, do not forget that in the beginning of humanity there was not a daily overdose of information + porn videos and images like today. That's a huge difference.

Porn is not healthy. It starts out harmless at the beginning, and later you're jacking off to some crazy pedo shit. And do you know why (in most cases)? Because people need the 'kick'. And once they have watched the same porn over and over again, they try to search for harder stuff, which they will obviously find.

Masturbation in a healthy condition is, of cousre, not unnatural, but in the way it is practiced these days is a lot different than it was 200 years ago and it's clearly not healthy.

What you 'call' pseudo-science, are actually verified and researched facts that have been shown in many studies already. Maybe you should search for it.

Pornography is a drug. And most people cannot handle it correctly. (like with most drugs)

>>136384764
is she tight?

I think I have already passed the point of no return so I fear there would be no use in starting a NoFap session now

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>>136386731
>It starts out harmless at the beginning, and later you're jacking off to some crazy pedo shit
[citation needed]
oh wait, there won't be one because you're pulling shit out of your ass to justify your argument.

so what if people use pornography to jack off? it's what it's made for, you idiot.

genuinely curious as to how many people advocating for nofap with the justification of porn being evil are christians/catholics and also right-wing conservatives. i'm sure the % is very high.

but go ahead, continue to not ejaculate for months at a time so you become sterile -- the world will be a much better place without your offspring in it, retard.

>>136385878
Yes, that's a good article. Speaking from my own experience, I can clearly say that there is a (to me) positive difference after stopping masturbation, or, to make it more clear, practice masturbation in a healthy manner (masturbation for not like 6 months). Sure, I believe that a lot of other people are exaggerating on NoFap, but then again, I cannot deny that I definitely had some of the positive effects that many other people on NoFap mentioned as well.

Besides that, I have to admit, before, when I was masturbating a lot, I also started viewing women as objects and tools and I never was able to build up a real relationship because I only wanted the sex.

>>136387148
>so what if people use pornography to jack off? it's what it's made for, you idiot.

But it bears the risk that it is overused and leads to an addiction (as it's a psychological drug), which happens a lot and pretty often. If it would not happen, then things like NoFap and other (similar) campaigns and projects would not exist. Pornography addiction is real and it's doing no good, especially to very young people who are still in growth.

Besides that, I am not pulling anything out of my ass, when there are proven studies out there that verify what I said.

the most extreme porn doesnt seem to turn me on that much anymore...im done lads, never again with this filth

>>136386900
She is if I don't bang her for a day. But if I maintain her daily fucking, she fits perfectly.

>>136387148
Porn is not 'evil' and masturbation is not 'wrong', and I am an atheist so it has nothing to do with it being a 'sin' to me.

I am not going to tell you its a magical thing that will heal all your problems but to some people stopping with porn is a big deal, helping them manage even things like depression and anxiety.

Why don't you try it? If you live 80 years, that's 29200 days, so why not dedicate 90 to this, only to see if does anything for you?

To me, maybe its placebo, but nofap made me develop muscle mass faster after a long time without progress, and I feel slightly more motivated to do things I like, although I think fapping for the last decade of my life created problems I will need more than a few weeks to solve.

About the scientific knowledge about porn addiction, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFVOJf0TzY&feature=youtu.be

>>136377211
Also, here is something for you, OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4VyIoeJsDY

>>136388123
Yep, was going to recommend that video as well.
Also, there are a lot of studies listed there as well:

- Over 60 studies linking porn use to sexual problems, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual

- Over 40 neurological studies supporting the porn addiction model:

- Multiple Studies Find Escalation (and Habituation) in Porn Users: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/studies-find-escalation-porn-users

- More extensive list of studies on porn users and sex addicts:
https://yourbrainonporn.com/sex-addiction

- More extensive list of studies on adolescents and porn use:
https://yourbrainonporn.com/adolescents-pornography

>>136388598
Woops, forgot that one:
- Over 40 neurological studies supporting the porn addiction model: http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

>>136377211

I don't know, OP, but all virtual chastity belt-wearing faggots should be looking for their "key holder" in the real world, instead of posting on a laotian stop-motion forum all day.

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If you play football never fap on game day. Coach says wait until after the game to fap. Coach is always right.

>>136390379
Both Muhammad Ali and Manny Pacquiao avoided ejaculation long before a fight

>>136388598
OP here, thanks anon, will check out the vid

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>>136388123
>although I think fapping for the last decade of my life created problems I will need more than a few weeks to solve.

Anon, I...might be in the same boat. I'll give it a shot.

>>136379165
You are a faggot and I can't believe anyone took the time to read your post.

>2 weeks in
>feel like I have zero sex drive
>5 weeks in
>starting to feel like the embodiment of rage

Is this going the way it should be? I mean I'm feeling really fucking mad for no reason what so ever. I have to say it feels pretty good at times.

nofap is very good if you can control yourself
not punish or figth with yourself, but control=become unified

when you're ONE you do not need girls, they need you

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>>136377211

I'm on day 74, feels great.

Better skin, more confidence. I'm not some kind of demigod but it's given me the power to start making other positive changes in my life as well.

Give it a shot. You notice the first big boost one week in, then three weeks in, then after 6 weeks you gain so much momentum that you become unstoppable.

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Nofap is the ultimate redpill for a young adult:

It works similar to keto in that it kicks your body into a state of survival only it's on a hormonal and chemical level.

Long story short it increases testosterone and decreses estrogen also clearing up any hormones that are causing you brain fog, laziness, depression, pretty much anything detrimental to a man.

This May be just broscience but I myself notice it and almost everyone who tries does too, there's a pheromone effect around women that makes them drawn to you and you drawn to them, A big factor of this is the fact that with more testosterone you feel very confident and are always smiling, which girls love. As far as interactions with men, betas fear you, alphas respect you.

It is often used as a recovery for porn addiction to break up the desensitization of life's simple pleasures, which is how I found it by the way.

Did anyone else start watching porn at a very young age? I started when I was 11, and I know for a fact that it fucked up my development greatly. Sometimes I wish I was a born in a different time when porn wasn't so goddamn immersive and easily available. It's incredibly fucked up when you think about it how easily boys' perception of sex can be destroyed nowadays as long as they have clueless parents, and how easily their confidence around women can be taken away. I was never confident around girls in high school because I was always venting all of my sexual frustration with porn. I didn't wanna do anything else. Jesus Christ, I hate porn. You guys can relate, right? I'm never touching the shit again.

>>136393663
Amen to this same boat, started watching internet porn at 11 and recently found Nofap and it has saved me.

>>136387029
That's bullshit, it's like a heroin addiction and will kill you if you don't fix yourself asap.

>>136391835
It's called getting your balls back

>>136379540
>>136385063
is 90 days the magic number?

i think i'm at around day 30, and goddamn this shit is difficult, and i'm only a third of the way there

>>136391497
Do not start hardcore nofap looking for 90 day streaks or something, if you fap many times a day, start fapping once, if you fap once per day, try fapping once a week, and so on... once you build that willpower, it becomes a lot easier to get big 90 days, 150+ day streaks...

>>136394552
No, it depends on the person, but most people get good results before reaching 90 days

>>136394552
90 days is standard IF your addiction is not severe. If it is severe, it isn't uncommon for guys to report needing 150+ days or even more to return their body physiology back to a pre-addiction state.

Basically the Delta FOSB has to detach from your system in order for you to start gaining progress.

>>136395288
the reason i ask is because even at 1 month i don't feel any tangible benefits, and that jew site that frog posted cited something about 90 days for reseting neural shit, so i was wondering if there was more to that number or not

>>136377211
FAP=LITERALLY KEK

>>136395722
FAP=LITERALLY CU.CK

mods cant stop me

Question. If I do nofap is sex still fine? Just no porn?

>>136395591
>If it is severe, it isn't uncommon for guys to report needing 150+ days

well shit

>Basically the Delta FOSB has to detach from your system

english please? or at least provide some links that can dumb that down to layman speak

I feel sorry for all you young guys. I am an old Gen X'er (42), and in my day the porn was just magazines and VHS mostly.

But even then I knew that porn was powerfully addictive and wouldn't keep those magazines long, eventually throwing them out.

Now with mobile devices, ipads, porn is so easy to access. But this stuff is pure poison for any man. There's a reason the Jews want you to be a porn consumer. It literally destroys you physically and mentally and makes you weak and completely ineffective.

>>136395996
>english please? or at least provide some links that can dumb that down to layman speak

https://yourbrainonporn.com/porn-pseudoscience-and-%CE%B4fosb

For those who say this stuff is not Science.

IT IS FUCKING SCIENCE.

Read up on DeltaFosB, A sustained molecular switch for addiction:


https://yourbrainonporn.com/deltafosb-sustained-molecular-switch-addiction-2001

>>136377541
a lot of "alphas" would tell you to literally just not masturbate at all until that urge becomes so great you have no choice but to situate your self in an environment and circumstance where you get all the pussy your biological self desires. Masturbating at all is rewarding yourself for not accomplishing the one thing you're actually built for as a man which is spreading your seed and creating civilizations (aka fucking bitches and increasing your sexual market value). And you know what happens when you reward failure... all that follows that path is nightmarish pain

>>136377211
Honestly I'm more addicted to the internet in general than I ever was to porn. That said I still think porn is filth.

>>136393024
this is true, but so dumb because literally there is no rational connection between the act and social interaction within society, and if this is true, then it's also true that it's questionable that why does society sometimes promote it

>>136385797
I know that feel my man.Fuck I'm ashamed and I'll use a meme flag.Started out with normal porn, got in to lesbians, solo girls, then "normal"wasn't enough, got in to the hentai shit.Curiosity and boredom got me in the furry garbage, i HATE furries and still I come back to that shit.The shame you feel after you see what you just jacked off to .... You can't even look yourself in the mirror.Few moths back curiosity again got the better of me and i came here to 4 chins, literally the first thread i read was a redpill image dump then i saw this (pic in post related >>136384605
) and it changed my fucking life, Almost a week into nofap , noporn.I'm fucking quiting porn for life

>>136386731
>It starts out harmless at the beginning, and later you're jacking off to some crazy pedo shit
I've been jacking it to porn for a long time and Traps, lolis, and futa still disgust me. It you fap to those things it's because you have a deep set issue in your brain caused by childhood bullshit.

Anyway I hope I helped my 4chan brethren and red-pilled them to never want to use porn again.

I am on the Nofap forums, screenname is runtilmylegsdropoff

>>136396158
>>136396389
thanks

>>136396002
>I feel sorry for all you young guys.
seriously it's fucked, my story is similar to
>>136393663
>>136394003
due to growing up when the internet was getting to its prime, and i can only imagine how fucked it is messing with brain wiring so early on

>>136385078
>your brain is made out of chemicals
>fucking with your dicks fucks with your brain chemicals
>but it doesn't effect the brain at all you guys!!!!!
how

You guys can recover, watch this guy named Gabe Deem (not sure if thats the right last name)
on youtube.

He was a heavy internet porn addict and recovered. He's probably like in the Nofap hall of fame. lol

Thanks to Gary Wilson and all the people at Nofap. They literally save lives.

no girls are willing to indulge in my weird fetish and I have found that it is a vital aspect of my sex life so masturbation is all I have left really

and before you ask I had the fetish long before I ever watched porn or even thought about sex

>>136395985
Yes.The idea is to not pleasure yourself, and sex isn't that obviously.

B A L A N C E

nofap gives pros and cons

fap gives pros and cons

might be different for different people

>>136377211
>How often should a healthy man masturbate
Never. He should only have sex with his wife.

Basics of rebooting, by Gabe Deem:

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/content/basics-rebooting

>>136396517
what kind of new retardation is this
>but so dumb because literally there is no rational connection between the act and social interaction within society
>masturbating changes the chemical make up of your brain
the chemical make up of your brain has an effect on how you think, smell, talk, act, feel let alone interact with people
>there is no rational connection
>no rational connection
>connection

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>>136377211
Whenever I abstain from masturbating for extended periods of time I get jungle fever and start wanting to impregnate black chicks, It's worrying

All of you no fap fucks must have low testosterone. If you were in a relationship would you also only have sex every 90 days.

>>136397253
A very nice unbiased website, for once.

http://youtu.be/7oFVOJf0TzY
This is the reason I stopped watching porn for 20 days. Also because porn was taking hours of my time every day when I could be doing something else like studying or watching movies or playing video games. In fact I was watching so much porn and did so little else that I felt creative watching a fucking movie!

>>136397318
Technically there is no real reason why masturbation should have negative effects on social interaction merely because of hormonal changes and pheromone production. These are incredibly minor factors in social interaction within society in most cases. Not to mention I don't recall this being published in any major articles or journals.

In conclusion what I'm saying is that just because you masturbate or don't masturbate somehow results in you being "better", this would be an inaccurate sweeping generalization.

or rather its an inaccurate sweeping generalization that nofap will result in you being "better" and that the factors which do haave negative social effects are so minor that if they do influence you or others, then that's really dumb.

>>136385638
But what if I'm using femdom hypnosis to make me stop masturbate?

>>136398345
rewarding sexual success with orgasm is more natural which results in healthier well-balanced people. I'm not saying cavemen didn't jack off but I'm saying the amount is so significantly different per capita due to internet and jews. The more people in any given society with healthy sexual habits would create cooler and more efficient shit because they'd be happier doing it and reproducing offspring that would be inclined to follow suit.

>>136395985
You SHOULD have sex if possible because the whole point is to reset the brain to its natural state

>>136398345
>I don't recall this being published in any major articles or journals

i wonder (((why)))

>>136398934
Same difference

Cut 'artificial' stimulating material, and you'll probably find yourself wanking less.

>>136397043
Is it time stop?

>>136384605
Read this. Complete eye opener into how cucked I was, and how cucked the west is.

>>136385078
>EU
>blatantly false information discouraging the self betterment of man
2 shekels have been deposited into your account

>>136386001
Fap after 1 week but without porn. Testosterone increases after 1 week and then decreases. But remember, no pornography because it fucks your brain up.

>>136395928
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>wake up
>think about what porn to search
>spend most of the waking time thinking about
>open thousand of porn tabs "for later"
>waste money on Patreon and porn cmmission
>end up jerking off
>instantly feel ashamed and depressed when finished
>repeat
worst thing is that I don't even like it anymore

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>>136386731
this, its about porn, first time when i masturbate, i was watching "normal" porn, i mean just dick in pussy, after few years, i start watching gangbang,orgy,double penetration, and shit like that, after that traps, but i stop at traps. i don't want to watch porn again. is like a drug, destroy your brain. you need to controll yourself.

>>136397612
Some men who have a partner might stop wanting to have sex with her because of porn.

I don't understand why someone with a gf would ever watch porn but... yeah

I've spend about 300 eurobucks on mfc within the last 2 months.
Kill me.

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>>136402252
do it yourself

>>136380887
>the natural magic forces
Stop trying to sound retarded to disregard the point, this isn't reddit.

>>136402252
how does mfc work? are you brought into a private room with a girl?

>>136384605
>>136384605
I mostly fap to solo camgirls while using a homemade cornstarch fleshlight (so I heavily focus on my own penis).
Am I doing it right?

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>>136377211
Do it once a week. If you wait anylonger than that you are at risk of having a wet dream which is not a good thing. Even if you do not feel like it, force yourself to. You can also get a GF and do it around twice a week.

>>136402252
I was obsessed with a model on there a few years ago and blew over $2000 on her, I wanted to kill myself after that.

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>>136380887
but spidey does it. why can't thor do it?

I've tried nofap for 3 weeks and now I can't even get a boner. My libido is non existent. I'm worried I may have permanent erectile dysfunction. I have like no energy and am depressed all the time now. I keep waiting to feel better, but I don't think it's going to get better. I'm starting to get worried.

>>136403813
see
>>136379540
>>136385063
>>136395591
>>136396158
>>136396389

>>136403813
Check yourbrainonporn.com
What you're experiencing is what they call "flatlining"

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/i-quit-porn-but-my-potency-and-libido-are-decreasing-help

There's more on it, so scout around. The gist is porn completely fucked you up. Nofap alone is insufficient, and for some, even full noporn nofap can reveal other problems, or else reveal the extent of the damage.

Fortunately, the 'fix' is pretty easy. Get a lady friend to in person rework your junk while you otherwise nofap and especially noporn.

>>136377211
>How often should a healthy man masturbate in order to keep his mind clear
No more than fifty times a day.

>>136403587
I've been obsesses with a camgirl from 2013 up until 2016. I'm in retrospective very glad that I haven't had the idea to open an online banking account until just recently or otherwise I would have done the same you did.

>>136403044
you buy tokens and than you can do stuff like tip her the amount you want just for the hell of it or for stuff she's willing to do.
Most have topics with larger countdowns for stuff like taking clothes off or doing cumshows and smaller tip amount for flashes or whatever.
You can also enter private / group chats or spy on them. This costs by the minute.
I've spent most on my tokens on pre-recorded premium videos of some girls (which are usually in better quality than the live streams)

>>136403813
>I've tried nofap for 3 weeks and now I can't even get a boner.
Just like every other system in your body, if you don't use it, you lose it. Masturbation is bad if you have a woman to fuck. If you don't, it keeps your body producing lost of semen and your glands producing lots of horniness juice. These retards who start these threads don't seem to understand that your dick does not know the difference between firing a load into a pussy or firing a load into a wad of paper towel. When my wife goes away to visit her family, I jack off a lot. When she comes back, I have plenty of libido to share with her.

Use it or lose it. Every other system in your body works this way: Mind, muscles, vision, voice. Why wouldn't your dick?

The people telling you about "masturbation addictions" are talking about fat retards who sit at home and literally do nothing but jerk off to tentacle porn all day. Yes, they have issues. That's not at all the same thing as a healthy male cleaning out the pipes regularly. Find me a species that never masturbates and I'll buy you a car. Even birds rub their junk against branches and shit to have orgasms when there are no females around. Welcome to being a creature with hormones.

>>136377211
It's the porn, mostly. But chronic masturbation isn't particularly good for you either.

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The majority of married men with children still masturbate to porn and all, and they still have healthy relationships. I don't the porn is the problem but a symptom of sexual problems, and you need multiple symptoms to confirm that problem.

>>136393663
Started at 10. What's more is, as opposed to most, that I pretty much got hooked on 'fucked up' right away. Lesbian domination to female-on-male femdom to traps and sissy shit.

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>>136405297
hmmm. thanks for the insight

NoFap is the biggest hoax of all time, holy shit /pol/ how did you fall for this meme?

>>136402252
No reason to die, Hans

Just quit porn and become an ubermensch

>>136377211
Once a week works for me. If I go longer than that I pop boners randomly.

>>136384605

>no sources
>armchair evopsych which is already pseudoscience in the first place

wew lad

No fap is dumb.
No porn is very very good.

If you are heavy fapping man and hardcore porn addict, slowly decrease how many times a day you fap. When you do, always fill that time with something productive. Read a book, learn language, learn to play fucking guitar or something. Goal is to get to 1-2 porn-less faps/week.

Once you achieve that, hold strong. In time, your libido will get so high, you will get either sum (real) fuk or gf. If it takes a longer time, use escorts.

Never go back to porn. In the first weeks block 4chan.

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>>136384605
Fuck that

Read this instead

>>136407182
i'm convinced a jew wrote this

https://soundcloud.com/user-571804814/pornhub-night bruh just listen to this song changed my life

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More porn means less rape.

>>136407182
>Phd in psychology

kek

That's when I stopped reading

>>136408714
Hmm this explains why so many women hate porn.

>>136377211
Try fasting

Eat 1 hour before dawn until sunset

>>136408860
>Psychology is the science of behavior and mind, embracing all aspects of conscious and unconscious experience as well as thought

Jeez yeah, like someone with a Phd in psychology, who specializes in sexuality knows anything about the human mind and sexuality.

>>136410479
Psychology is that "science" that considers homosexuality normal behavior but says children who don't want to watch a boring lecture have a "disorder".

>>136410633
this completely

What's the point of fapping? What are you rewarding yourself for? Same empty hedonistic reasoning why people stuff themselves with sugar or alcohol or casual sex.

>>136405499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

I've been doing it once every night. Two days ago, I fapped and achieved a harder orgasm than I have in a while, and since then, I haven't been interested in my usual kinks. I'm going to keep not doing it for a while.

>>136410633
What do you consider "normal behavior" ?
ADHD is psychiatry, not psychology

Daily fucking reminder that the dangerous things you're reading about with regards to pornography causing 'overstimulation' which is bad for the brain, are also applicable to your 4chan browsing. Every time you refresh the catalog, every time you get a (you), every time you find a new thread, you're rewiring your brain. Monitor yourself you fucking apes.

>>136411952
>What do you consider "normal behavior" ?

Not wanting to have cocks up your ass

>ADHD is psychiatry, not psychology

The only difference is that one of them give you drugs to cuck you into a good goy

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>>136379756
Thanks for the squirrel.

>>136379275
Wtf

>>136412099
>Not wanting to have cocks up your ass
Do you even know that most homosexuals doesn't want a cock up their ass?

>The only difference is that one of them give you drugs to cuck you into a good goy
I was going to call you retarded, but then i noticed your flag. it all makes sense now :DDDD

>>136377211
it takes time which could be better utilized doing more productive shit
like chores or taxes

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>>136412357
>"Do you even know that most homosexuals doesn't want a cock up their ass?"
>calls others retarded

I've been on the NoFap tour for about 3 weeks now. I do have a girlfriend but usually I masturbated nearly every night. I'm working a lot and don't get the urge to watch porn at all. Feels good!

>>136412483
So does posting on 4chan

but when I fap I have to watch JOI because it's the least degenerate (except for the sissy shit)

Once a week, or every other week. No porn ever.

I read not long ago, men should masturbate 21 times a month to reduce prostate cancer by 33%.

>>136412621

Do you feel any different? Do you have wet dreams? Or feel an urge to blow the load? Do your balls feel huge? Curious, i thought not masturbating is bad for you...

>>136412572
>Around 75 percent of participants reported kissing their partners, giving oral sex, and/or receiving oral sex....
....By contrast, only 36 percent of men reporting receiving anal sex and 34 percent of men reporting giving it.
A literal low IQ retard

>>136412889
Women with low estrogen levels tend to not have breast cancer, maybe men with low testosterone tend to not have prostate cancer?

Rly makes you think.

>>136377211
When talking about dicks to me it only makes sense to view more dicks. If my dick gets hard due to that. I blow a disgusting and huge load. The end. http://dickcode.creativerobot.co/?c=p2_60400410-110888544-4020442_6-7-117
To make your own, delete everything after the .co and click away
Consider the first series of images at the very top, flaccidity; and not a hard on like all the others

>>136413030
>that ID
Please fuck off

>>136413017
>>136413128
Le homosexuality expert who can't write in English have spoken

If you are a man and you enjoy sucking dicks, you have a fucking mental disorder, not wanting to watch a boring lecture is normal and giving drugs to keep your child quiet is fucking disgusting, I don't give a shit about what (((psychologists))) have to say about it.

>>136377211
As often as the buildup of tension dictates. You should not use porn, fucks with your standards and expectations a lot.

Just don't be autistic about it, christ. There is no need to have a fapping schedule, do it as often as you need and use memories/imagination, but no porn.

So if I fuck my fiance like every second night pretty much, can I masturbate in between or is this bad?

My testosterone levels are high as fuck according to my doctor, he even suggested me taking estrogen tablets which i declined... what do

>>136413128
>Le homosexuality expert who can't write in English have spoken
>Proceeds to write with awful grammar
hmmmm

Nofap does fucking nothing for me but make me hornier

>porn corrupts your view on sex
So? Sex is pretty simple. Just stick your dick in and out until white stuff comes out
>you'll end up looking at weirder and weirder stuff
Looking at furry porn doesn't stop me from being physically attracted to real women even if furry is superior.

>>136413289
Keep suckin on cigars kike. You rely on women to tell you if you're a kike or not. Only you do this. Why are you in here? Getting hot and bothered eh favela monkey? I guess she's mentally ill for giving you a toothjob. Women like women. And chocolate. You are describing spiritual problems. Where is your bodily proof. Everything you say is a projection for ALL the degeneracies in the world. All yours

>>136413419
Never masturbate, use that real pussy

>>136413558
Ass cancer cuck

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>>136413419
>he even suggested me taking estrogen tablets

what the fuck

>>136377211
Living the /saintlife/ here, daily work outs, tough diet, no lustful activity of ANY kind
Do that, and your self confidence will reach the skies, like it happened to me, it might be tough at first but it freaking rocks once you brave through for a few days

>>136413539
I would rather be a negro in the shittiest place of Africa than a cocksucker like you, thanks.

>>136413678
Do you walk around with your eyes open? Taken a vow of celibacy? Dont attack ot hurt anybody or anything? Youre not a saint. Cave paintings. Pornos are not you replacing lust. Nobody seeks to go fuck those moving cave paintings. Onanism is failing to impregnate your widowed sister in law. Thats it

>>136413846
I am pretty sure your parents are siblings.

>>136413770
And a woman. Youre already ok with jew baggery so now youre talkin out your arse

>>136413907
Ad hom. Muh autogynephilia. Muh vaginismus. That was not an argument

>>136413912
>>136413962

Why don't you come here after you learned English, little inbred mouth breather?

>>136413997
I made like one typo. If ever a jew kike cant respond to you with his self righteousness he pretends he can't understand English. He can't. He's a moon runes bitch so projects onto me. Not my problem

>>136414082
Its funny because you are the result of a whore who fucked her brother and smoked crack while pregnant.

>>136413678

Not everyone has your willpower, you have to understand that.

>>136414160
Yeah eh. You gon suck on baby dick. Bite it off. Give em herpes and brain damage and autism. Cover your heads as males for some reason and bow to a womany Roman wailing wall?

>>136413846

>faggot feels emasculated by someone else's willpower

sasuga, power bottom

>>136414228
Unfortunately I have to go now, but it was fun laughing at how pathetic you are and your attempts at using google translator.

Even hiding their flag, so worthless...

>>136414288
I dont like the "im a saint" part and added why you shouldnt be a fool like that but whatever. Continue your larping. Threads about reproduction. Then when you do. Pick the crappier sex and go through it and not around it in order to make babby. Stay a virgin. I dont believe you. Or get married which nobody seems to be doing on here. Myself included. I dont like people who sound like pharisees. He hasnt performed any miracles or walked on water. Christ was masculine. And was not defiled in birth. We all were, to the contrary, by vagina. For some guy to elevate himself to that. Making claims. Gives me the creeps. We're supposed to test people not just swallow everything they claim

>>136412988
no not at all actually, but it's not like i haven't ejaculated for 3 weeks. I don't feel that different either, it's just that I feel a bit "cleaner" not watching those dirty porn websites and I don't feel like a loser because I fap to girls I don't know on screen.

>>136414346
Go to bed

Fap when your dick gets hard, unless you have a pussy to stab. If pussy ignores, fap when your dick gets hard. Clear mind limp dick stop overthinking it

>>136414722
Best goy. Youve almost achieved womanhood

Question anyone. So you're all into trying nofap, why do I never see anyone mention monks pepper? It's a plant literally used by monks to prevent the fap urge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitex_agnus-castus

>>136413079
http://dickcode.creativerobot.co/?c=p2_60400410-110888544-4020442_6-7-117

If you told a normal healthy group of people you never masturbate you would be laughed out of the room. If you're hardcore nofap you're an outcast, nothing healthy about that. Don't jerk off more than once or twice a week, your problems are coming from other areas guaranteed.

>>136415296
Fuck, I used the copy to clipboard and my phone kept your link to view it. Oh well

>>136415327
This
>>136415407
Nw. Looks like straw polls are easier for this anyways. Maybe next time lol but we'll see

>>136415327
tbf they'd laugh if you told them you don't drink too. But for an alcoholic it's best not to. imo if masturbation is causing you problems, don't. Otherwise do but within reason. Don't expect nofap to be a silver bullet that solves all your problems though.

>>136407182
Um, sorry. I have to disagree with a lot of stuff on what he said. First off, to say that there is 'no' evidence to this at all, is clearly not true and can be seen in my recent post above. There are over 40 neurological studies that researched this kind of subject and actually found evidence that implies that watching porn does indeed do detrimental changes in the dopamine-reward system, ESPECIALLY on pornography addiction.

Then I miss a lot of references to 'counter-studies' that prove his 'expertise' and arguments. All I see is just a long post about NoFap being a hoax, yet he himself shows no evidence of his arguments, while a lot of evidence on this subject has been brought up already, as I posted above.

Whatever this post is supposed to mean, it's bullshit. As this forum post is from 2012, a lot of this is pretty much outdated.

It is believed that some of the compounds found in the plant work on the pituitary gland which would explain its effects on hormonal levels. A study has shown that extracts of the fruit of VAC can bind to opiate receptors; this could explain why intake of VAC reduces PMS discomforts.[30]

The mechanism of action is not fully understood[31] but it is assumed that it has dopaminergic effects resulting in changes of prolactin secretion. At low doses, such as might have been used in previous centuries for suppression of sexual desire, it inhibits activation of dopamine 2 receptor by competitive binding, causing a slight increase in release of prolactin. In higher concentrations, as in modern extracts, the binding activity is sufficient to reduce the release of prolactin. A study has found that treatment of 20 healthy men with higher doses of Vitex agnus-castus was associated with a slight reduction of prolactin levels, whereas lower doses caused a slight increase as compared to doses of placebo.[32] A decrease of prolactin will influence levels of Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and estrogen in women ;[citation needed] and testosterone in men .[citation needed] Dopaminergic compounds (diterpenes with prolactin-suppressive effects that were almost identical in their prolactin-suppressive properties to dopamine itself) present in Vitex agnus castus seem likely to be the clinically important compounds which improve premenstrual mastodynia and possibly also psycho-somatic symptoms of PMS.[33]
>now I'm wondering if it can help men stop smoking & reverse balding

It's kind of ironic. One of the reasons people want to do nofap is because they want higher testosterone. The things that seem to work to accomplish that seem to lower it though.

>>136417081
Interesting. For me, that was never my intention when I first started with NoFap. I just had real problems with porn addiction and I wanted to finally stop with it, NoFap was good motivation for that.

I just noticed later, when I educated myself a bit on a few topics, that the higher testosterone level was indeed a possible side-effect and was later also shown in a few studies, but never was my motive for NoFap.

>>136413846
Why do you try to shitpost this hard? You have to disguise the post as bait. If you can't, then you have to go back.

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>>136379275
I'm hitting the month and a half marker and I have yet to give a succubus seed. You just need to pray your rosary anon

>>136417506
Answer my link thingy lol

So fucking a prostitute is ok?

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>>136377211
Don't fall for the christian nofap propaganda that pollutes /pol/.

nofap is unhealthy.

>>136418279
HOT! The prostate is mysterious af. It's hard to cut through SO MANY dark and evil bullshitters but you did it bro! You can put a sticker on your mancard of lowhanging balls. You earned them

>>136391835
>I mean I'm feeling really fucking mad for no reason what so ever. I have to say it feels pretty good at times.
This is literally the reason the kikes spread porn into Palestine.

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>>136418279
21 ejaculations a month within the proper confines of a church sanctioned marriage is licit, masturbation is not
>For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord
If you're not married, keep your hands away from your genitals, k?

>>136419293
Read what I said about onanism

>>136419576
Story of Onan has nothing to do with masturbation and is not the justification of its being illicit according to the Church. Masturbation is a disordered action that misuses the sexual faculty. As with all sin, it is not without its spiritual consequences, such as an increase in lust, which leads to further sin and so on until one's life is consumed by concupiscence. Part of living a godly life is self control. Temperance is a solid, positive and constructive virtue. So masturbation is considered sinful and therefore licit

>>136420344
*therefore illicit <3

What if you have sex with your gf on a regular basis and still find the need to watch porn and every day or every other day ?

It kills me inside but i cant stop

>>136420344
I never said that. You did the convolutions here pally

>>136377211
You should masturbate often, but with a good girlfriend's vagina instead of your hand.

>>136421192
Thats fornication. Also she'll fuck up something or everything for sure

>>136420917
>Onanism is failing to impregnate your widowed sister in law. Thats it

I agreed that Onan is not in reference to masturbation. You appeared to use the mislabeling of Onanism as a reason why masturbation is ok (replying to the anon attempting to live a godly life), so I explained why it is considered a sin.

>>136421574
I dont see no sisters in law around here. Imma keep fappin there bud

>>136379640
This. (no tits ok) but my hubby likes to watch porn to 'get us in the mood' it just turns me off every time. If only someone could tell him all he needs to do is flirt he will get almost all he wants in the bedroom.

People have been masturbating for as long as history.
If you don't jack off you will end up doing some dirty shit. Desperation to get a nut can make men fuck anything.

Do you know who else says not to jack off? Fags who wear chastity belts so they can get horny enough to get fucked by a dude.
No-fap is a psyop by fags to turn men gay

>>136379540
hey bro, your wife wants to nag you into doing something stupid for her, and you have no say in the matter because if you argue she will always check-mate you with "go ahead, hit me, i'll call the cops so fast..." which cucks you into submission every time, or cucks you into jail, either way women have figured out the manipulation of men 100% and the only way to escape it is avoid getting married and fap when you absolutely have to and can afford the losses.

>>136379751
>oh geez, this sperm could've become an 18+ year drain on every aspect of my life and resources instead of a momentary pleasure pulse from which i can quickly recover and return to my higher intellectual interests

>>136423049
This is not the talk of a real man. I call your bluff and say your balls still haven't dropped

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>>136423049
>"go ahead, hit me, i'll call the cops so fast..."
If you've married the sort of woman who'll play that (let alone you going from disagreement to
>muh hit muh waifu
quite frankly you deserve EVERYTHING you get.
I'm am in agreement with >>136423303

>>136423209
>and return to my higher intellectual interests
he says shitposting on an anonymous Angolan Cross stitching imageboard....

No fap ever.
No porn ever.
It is evil and so you should avoid it.
If you are addicted pray and work to avoid it. Do not work out a schedule and use it on a decreasing level. It is evil and should be stopped.

Porn will turn you into a degenerate animal. Pray to Jesus and His Blessed Mother and pray the rosary every day. If you find yourself looking at pron-like things, go away from you computer and go for a walk or talk to a friend instead.

>>136384605
good read

2-3 times a week.

>>136379669
>I felt better than I have in years
> I also worked out every other day

WOOOOOOOOOOAH
DUUUUUUUUUUUDE