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Why does /pol/ so often say that Marxism socialism and Leninism are all the same thing.
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socialism predates Marxism by 50 years.
marxism never included a detailed description of the role of any political party such as the communist party in soviet Russia.
Leninism was meant to apply to Russia which was backward not industrially advanced enough to be a Marxist state.
They are related to each other but are crucially , quite different. are you all just trying to simplify things to make them easier to understand or to argue against or both?
whats the point in arguing against something that only exists in your own minds?
(are you all secret Hegelians after all?)
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>whats the point in arguing against something that only exists in your own minds?
What's the point in arguing for it? It's all huffing intellectual farts about ideals when the reality is Venezuela. Nobody in a first world country needs or genuinely wants it other than a few losers who are likely on drugs. So we don't need to argue against it.
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but you arent actually talking about marxism or socilism, you are talking about some vague collective understanding of the two that isnt actually anyones political philosophy.
iv'e not read up on Venezuela so I can't comment on that, my problem is that nobody seems to have any real idea of what socialism, liberalism, reactionism, Marxism, Lockean thinking, Rousseauian communism, Stalinism, Hobbesian thinking, Trotskyism Leninism etc actually are...
If you dont know what something is then how can you know you are against it... Obama for example is no communist
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