Does anyone still believe in overpopulation, or has that

>>136308471
You should have seen New Jersey 100 years ago. Nothing but farms.

>Don't worry about taking care of the Earth. God is gonna rescue us. hehe

>>136308471

Every inch of the earth should be covered in decaying urban sprawl and untold billions of brown people.

>>136308471
every human could fit in texas

>>136308582
>Liberalism: The goal

>>136308471
Overpopulation =/= all the land being taken up you dumbass

Overpopulation = scarcity in food, oil, too many conflicting beliefs and ideologies which leads to instability etc, etc

The lower the population the easier it is to maintain balance

Fucking stupid argument. What we mean is the concentration of people in specific areas.

>>136308633
>could
ok

>>136308557
So in 100 years, Montana will be an endless megalopolis?

>>136308471
There's no fucking water out on the great plains. You have to draw down aquifers, and those are a limited resource.

>>136308810
This guy gets it, also waaay too many brain-dead imbeciles.

>>136308633
My state is 3 times the size of Texas and it's not even the largest state in the country

>>136308471
>we are on track to have 4 billion black people by 2030
>that's not too many because look at this grass
literally kill yourself

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>>136308471
We have an overpopulation of liberals.

>>136308633
That's true. Would it be a good life?

>>136308471
US: come in, we have plenty of room
Aus: fuck off we're full

>>136308471
Idiot over population is about ressources not physical space.

>>136308471
Overpopulation is a Zionist belief, and a false one.

Don't worry about population god will take care of that.

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>>136308874
Not my fault that 18 million people decided to crowd together in one little spot in the desert, saw how overcrowded it was, then passed laws mandating free birth control and funding for abortion clinics. Does Liberalism arise from poor urban planning?

>>136308471
Global overpopulation is false.
The real red pill no one talks about is societal overpopulation,

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When it comes to overpopulation, it's not the western US that I'm worried about...

>>136308633
Yep and at the rate our population is growing at it will be "every human could fit in alaska" in <100 years.

>>136309412
This, production of some rarer items is already slowing down. People don't really notice it now, but in a few years things are going to start getting VERY competitive

>>136309559
This happens because of western aid. Giving them medicine and food is a mistake.

>>136309054
I supposed you could have asked someone in NJ that 100 years ago and they would have told you you were crazy. 600,000 brown people a year is a low number they are bragging about....

>>136308471
>people flock to one part
>omg we are overpopulating
>literally miles of land probly 80% of earth land unused and just 20% is acially used where people live
Lol

>>136309194
262,000m^2 x 3 = >700,000m^2
Alaska is largest state, area is 663,300m^2
Yeah, no. Where the hell do you live lol

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>uuuuhhhhh well yea u jus need 2 move all dose ppl from crowded places to open ranchos jus like muh cows u kno lol why y'all troublin' ur 'eads with dat dat ain't even a problem like goddamn Cleetus ah jus saved da world pass the whisky we drinkin' toniteeeee yeeeeeaaaahah

>>136308471
The federal government owns over 90% of the land west of the Mississippi River. Nobody lives there because they can't

>>136308471
Over population isn't about people filling up land, it's about the consumption of resources.

It's not about living space, it's about limited natural resources.

>>136308722

Dredd: The Movie

>posting a pic if a plain disproves overpopulation
Can neolibs get any more rerarded?

>idiots STILL think overpopulation is a land issue and not a resource one

Literally kill yourself.

>>136308471

Overpopulation is measured by human population versus earth resources that are left.

Humans have sucked almost all the resources out of this planet, and there isn't much left.

Resource epidemics are coming in 30 years. Get ready for some post-apocalyptic scenes in cities when they start running out of shit that are daily essentials now.

Screencap this post.
8/5/17

>>136309949
>rerarded

>>136308471
The entire population of earth can fit in subdivisional housing in Texas and half of Oklahoma.

Over population is a joke

>>136308471
Overpopulation isn't talking about land area. We can't produce enough food to sustain a rapidly growing population like ours, we're heading for collapse due to killing off our farmable land with unsustainable methods.

>>136308810
Name a single moment in history in which scarcity of resources hasn't existed.

>>136309559

I thought AIDS was killing off the africans?

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>>136308471
all of mankind would fit into a very smal part of the grand canyon. So yeah.. overpopulation is a myth. Sure, if you travel to big cities like Tokyo who are rather just a small place compared to the rest of the world.... you might get the impression of overpopulation.

>>136309989
Only if you assume africans, indians and chinese should get western living standards without technological advantages to make this possible

>>136310048
Not about living space you fucking donut

>>136308633
Naw, were full Padre

>>136309781
australia you fucking moron

>>136308810
If youre worried about food scarcity increased CO2 will support more plant life and if land is not an issue then you can even graze more meat and milk livestock.

Given this (new to you) information you should definitely murder yourself with a pistol

>>136308557
>New Jersey 100 years ago
And now it's infested and overpopulated.
Barely 50% White too

>>136308471
it's not a space thing ya fuckin retard it's a sorceress thing

>>136310085
the gold age of hedonism. When everyone had at least 200 heroine needles at home.

>>136308471

it was the original jewish psy-op against whites, didn't hold up under basic scrutiny. we have the ability to build vertical forests, farmland, pastures, gardens, etc. both above and below.

we have the technology to do it now.

fuck off, we're full.

>>136310085
There ISN'T a scarcity of resources. Yet. That's the problem, and why it isn't about living space. When theres too many animals or something, they just die off until theres a good amount of animals. But with humans, we just build more farms so we don't have that problem. But then by doing that we're just creating a bigger problem, because the population will just get exponentially bigger, and we'll need to make more and more food at a faster and faster rate. Does that sound sustainable to you?

>>136308471
It's actually getting ridiculously developed out West too. It's not NYC but you can't go too many places without seeing other people around.

>>136309479
>Shows picture of Los Angeles basis
>Calls it a desert

Los Angeles is not a desert and we need more dense metros like it. East Coast metros spread out too much outside the downtown areas scarring all the land

>>136308471
I guess you never been to long island then.

>>136310231
i'm certain you're more expendable than I

>>136308471

One thing people seldom get right about overpopulation is that, much like disease or famine, it can be an endemic problem, not necessarily a global one. Nigeria has a problem with overpopulation, because it has more people than it can afford to feed and educate,, while some European countries are the opposite and have a problem with sub-replacement fertility.

If you think overpopulation can only apply to the entire planet, you've been brainwashed by the globalists who want white people to be extinct.

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>>136308582
>>136309871

>>136310192
They tell us that you call them provinces over here, man. If you say "states" without context it makes it seem like you're talking about the US. And australia is a continent not a country.

>>136309175
if every person under 100 iq dropped dead right now not only would the world be a better place but it would almost literally be back to sustainable populations

>>136309820
that's honestly a good thing unless you want Target, Walmart and McDonalds turning the entire country into one big parking lot. that's precisely what will happen the second that land becomes for sale.

>>136309949
Ry don' row?

>>136308471
>how can climate change be real? it still snows!

>>136310876
whites aren't the ones with the problem, we were actually having less children because we realize it's too fucking crowded. it's for (((economic))) reasons that we need to import the 3rd world because we have "declining birth rates" and we need infinite growth. white people were doing what they were supposed to be doing.

>>136309559
Imagine a world where every child born was wanted, loved and came from good stock with high IQ. A post scarcity society with far fewer humans, where most of a world was a playground of nature for the enjoyment of humanity. That should be our goal, not allowing the shitskins of the world to explode their populations into a malthusian nightmare because of our pathological altruism

>>136308471
You tell normies to go out west and they think Commiefornia. The issue with that is you end up creating more people who think overpopulation is a huge issue when in reality people need to learn to move the fuck out to smaller towns. Then those smaller towns can grow and prosper.

>>136308471
If overpopulation existed it would be in the 2nd and 3rd world due to modern advancements but no declining birth rates which 2nd and 3rd worlders have a much higher birth rate than the 2.1 ratio.

If you beleive in overpopulation, let poor third worlders die. Stop giving them any aid, aid both sides in a civil war, and if that doesn't work deploy viruses or random drone strikes.

>>136308471
overpopulation is not a logistics question. It's a question of correctness according to our Universe's modifier

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>>136310085
Fucking this. Famines are almost always man-made from human stupidity.

We don't have too many people, we have too many lazy, stupid, thuggish people, and too many crooked politicians willing to enable them for votes.

>>136308810
This is basically the argument which just shows how little OP knows or how stupid he is.

>>136308471
I drove from a city to an other city, and saw overpopulation. two points and a line, is one dimension. there is no second dimension. But the middle of no where wont except my food stamps, and liberal trendiness.

>>136310406
Rather pathetic how you have to use capital letters to rationalize your retarded opinion. There are way more people on the planet than it can sustain for much longer. This isn't Star Trek.

>>136308471
Overpopulation isn't about how many people you can fit into one space, but about the resources required to feed them and provide them with the luxuries required to live a fulfilling life. The more people you have, the more nature we'll lose, as it'll be replaced by farmland and industry.

As to whether or not the world is overpopulated, I'd say yes and no.
The population in the western world is relatively small, and is not overpopulated. If anything, the birthrate needs to increase, so the population can be maintained, rather than replaced by shitskins. The same goes for Korea and Japan.

Overpopulation is a problem in China, India, Africa, the Middle East and South America. In these areas the population growth needs to stop. Thankfully, China's one child policy seems to have stemmed their population growth, though it'll take two or three generations before we really see the results.

>>136310876
And an entire country of unguarded loot in somalia!

>>136308471
>Does anyone still believe in overpopulation, or has that been debunked?


Depends at what you mean by believe.

Does a father that tell his son "eat spinach and you will become as strong as popeye", believe that eating spinach makes people as strong as popeye?

>>136308722
Digits prove it.

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>>136308471
It's not overall population mate. It's the resources of this planet. Fact is they are extremely strained and water that is drinkable is soon to become as valuable as gold what with the southern hemisphere getting drier and hotter every year meaning billions will start looking at Europe and West Russia for water and land... Analysts already reckon we need two earths just to sustain the current 7.6bn population.

You can blame the peoples of Asia and Africa for this population shit. Africa alone(not counting the Sub saharan Africans living in the west) is set to grow from 1.2bn in 2010 to 2.3bn in 2050. China has now had to stop their 1 child policy due to too many boys and not enough girls to repopulate younger generations so their growth will continue and living space will be needed. India is still growing fast now at 1.4bn. To put it into perspective China has grown 300mn in 47 years, India has grown 810mn.

World War III will be a resource war resulting in the deaths of hundreds of millions if not billions in the third world and a strict militant western world. I would not be surprised to see outright military rule in many countries. This isn't exagerration. It will happen. Everyone knows it. Why do you think Roman tier end of civilisation hedonism and degeneracy is so widespread now? Deep down we know the end of the current world is coming.

China and Russia signed their 35 year defence pact a few years ago and began their modernisation military build up in preparation for wars over fertile soil,mineral resources and drinkable water. Switzerland even has plans to destroy the ground entrances to their nation by blocking the passes and mobilising their military to the borders in the event of an Islamist or civil uprising in Europe.

>>136310481
>Los Angeles is not a desert.
Are you fucking retarded?

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>>136309801
Amen brother.

India has a billion people, and most of the land is still utterly barren. Africa is going to be host to 2 billion, trending towards 4 or 5 billion at the end of the century, and its still barely populated.

Overpopulation is just overt white guilt made manifest. It was only ever pushed on affluent whites in western countries in part of a multi faceted attack on white birth rates.

>>136311766
To be fair to him, if you live in the hills or like 2 blocks from the beach it isn't.

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>>136308471
>come to the western states

REEEEEEEEEE!!! NOOOOOO!!! WE'RE FULLL!!!

>>136311766
The Los Angeles basin isnt a desert. Are there deserts nearby? Yes. But where LA sits isnt a desert. The movies are wrong

>>136308471

I think first world countries can balance out and manage. You already see the big ones with falling birth rates, which makes the elite panic bring in third world immigrants so their profits can keep going up up up, and devalue lower class purchasing power.

Then you have plain shitholes like Africa, where natural selection would've, should've dealt with the overcrowding problem just fine if we didn't decide to artificially inflate it to massively unsustainable levels.

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>>136310106
So if I traveled to a huge overcrowded megalopolis (by the way, I live in one - Seattle) I would think there are too many people on earth and we need to get rid of some? Sort of like how if I lived next to a cattle ranch, I would think the entire world smells like shit?

>>136311935
It's pretty brown desu.

>>136309871
>>136310721
>not referencing glorious Trantor
plebs

>>136311914
More research done on this (tho it doesnt take much)

https://la.curbed.com/platform/amp/2012/7/12/10352572/lets-get-one-thing-straight-los-angeles-is-not-a-desert

>>136312018
How is Seattle's o-line looking so far?

>>136312022
People or environment?

>>136312018
i lived near a pig farm before and when it would rain it would smell like shit pretty bad

>>136308633
Every human could actually for insider los Angeles. As OPs pic shows, we're not even close to overpopulated. Sure, certain areas have problems with too many people, but that's their own stupid fault.

>>136312138
Both were rather brown the last I checked. SoCal is utter shit. YOU HAVE BARBED WIRE OVER YOUR STREET SIGNS AND BILLBOARDS

Whether or not the current and the impending peak population of humans is an "overpopulation" depends on who you ask.

If you're willing to give up cars and electricity for polar bears, then it's an overpopulation.
If you put human prosperity above all other things, then it's mostly going to sort itself out. There will likely be even more tremendous suffering in Africa than there already is, just because of how inflated its population is.

>>136312240
I don't live in SOCAL, that place makes me very uncomfortable. It's like an ant colony boxed in by rich neighborhoods.

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>>136308471
keep in mind the overwhelming majority of white is uninhabitable.

That which isn't is already set to explode in population via the current already settled migrants.

>there is open space in the world still so we are not being overpopulated

god you baiting autists are the worst

>>136312397
English is a second language in LA.

>>136312097
Hari knew, but no one listened.

>>136308471
See>>136308582
I like nature. Sure, we could all live in a paved hellscape covered in dried shit for thousands of miles in all directions, but that would be utter misery.

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>>136310406
Actually, many rich and well-developed countries like Germany and Japan already have negative population growth due to low birth rates, and the governments there actually pay people to have children. Currently, the UN predicts the world population will max out at ~9 billion from the 7 billion we have currently.

>>136312450
Si.
https://youtu.be/BDIptNc1TWM

>>136308471
The red pill is a post-humanist, post-ultilitarian world.

The god of modern liberalism is a passenger on the ship from Wall-E. Nietzche's 'Last man.'

There are over 7 billion humans on the planet. 100 million is more than enough.

>>136312424
>>136312548
>there's no middle ground between wide open plains and urban ghettos
Nice b8ies m8ies

>>136309855
> 2017
> posting reasonable things like this on /pol/

>>136308471
It's more than just a plot of land that humans require to strive and thrive.
Sure, the earth can handle more people, but can people?

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>>136308471
That field does look peaceful.

I can't believe people in this thread think we don't have enough people and we need more.

What the fuck is wrong with you? You guys must be shitskins with that line of thinking.

I can't sit on a backroad for 10 second without someone coming up and riding my ass waiting for me to move out of the way. That means there's too many fucking people when I don't have space to myself for even a single minute.

>>136309855
yeah this is the real crux, it's overpopulation when it's using up (((their))) resources, but """dangerously low birth rates!!!""" when there's not enough workers in their factories/taking on new debt

>>136308471
Overpopulation of specific areas relative to their ability to support themselves is definitely real.

Overpopulation of the entire planet is not a reality yet

>>136311216
a-fucking-men

>>136308471

>look at this empty field!
>overpopulation theory btfo
>what are sustainable resources?

>>136308471
Overpopulation isn't overcrowding dumbass. Overpopulation accounts for sustainability; overcrowding is the literally lack of space.

How do you think we will manage waste? Do you want to live on top of shit? Overpopulation means considering the knock on effect of urban life. We need space to live; that means houses; that means quarries to mine materials for homes; logging sites for wood; more mining sites for metal components. Then you need space for waste; far enough away that it would bear no impact on your life, eg, no contamination to supplies you need to live on. Then you farms; those need room for crops and animals; which in turn means more materials like those you need to build homes. Then you need roads to supply homes with necessary materials, and to take away waste materials; that also requires more basic materials, meaning more quarries and logging sites. Then add on things like hospitals, schools, police stations, government buildings, power stations and so on. As your population grows, this things become exponentially greater in need. You also need to remember that the world is finite, and only has so many resources; how much can we use up, and for how long before they run out?

>>136312572
That number goes out the window for Germany when you factor in all the worthless Ahmeds they're letting in.

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>>136308810
the illusion of scarcity drives up costs and (((profits))). I hope every one continues to fall for the the city life, leave me alone out here

>>136309559
>implying growth in africa is sustainable
They are already only living because we feed them, soon it will hit a ceiling, we can't push it out infinitely.

>>136308633
The entire universe could fit inside an atom.

>>136308471
Overpopulation is a real problem, but not in the West. Ironically these are the locations where the campaigns to curtail population has been mainly focused. Of course these are the locations that have earned the moral and ethical right to increase their populations due to having the resources to feed subsequent generations.

It's the 3rd world, Africa in particular, where the problems are. If nothing is done, Africa's population will balloon up to 4 billion by 2100 resulting in the death by starvation of nearly 2 billion people. Luckily we've noticed and are beginning to put a lid on it. We may be able to help those nations curtail their populations to around 2.5 billion but even that will challenge them.

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>>136312097
>>136310721
>not holy terra

>>136308471
In Europe and the USA? No, it's just another tactic (((they))) use to convince us to stop breeding and die out.
Africa is where there is a population problem but they don't want the nigs to stop breeding.

>>136313866
Why do they breed so much? I know they're not into contraception and abortion etc but they can't even feed their kids
Why? Why do it?

>>136308471
>oh yes goy you can't have babies, due to global warming, due to co2, due to limited resources

>oh you see goy we are importing a bunch of 3rd worlders because people aren't having enough babies and we can't pay for social programs.


Are people this stupid or what?

>>136308471
Research pretty clearly indicates that SUSTAINABLE carrying capacity of the Earth is around 3 billion. The current industrial agricultural system based on petroleum and nitrogen fixing is not only environmentally damaging but it is also completely unsustainable.

>>136314534
No link but I do remember a story from a reputable source that many African women in a particular country didn't know why they kept getting pregnant. They apparently didn't know about the birds and the bees.

It's not even clear that Africans can think far enough into the future to understand the consequences of their actions. It's sad, but you being on /pol/ I'm sure you're aware of the mean IQ of most African nations? We're not dealing with people like you or I who are capable and competent even with their own lives or futures.

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>>136311935
>>136311914
>>136311766
>>136310481
By rainfall, it is. They just pipe the water in from everywhere else so it looks greener than it would naturally.

>>136314586
THAT is exactly the great irony. I haven't gone full 1488 but I feel like I"m getting close.

>>136314534

>why do they breed so much?
It's africa what else is there to do

>>136308633
my entire dick couldn't fit in your mommas ass.

>>136308471
Overpopulation has always been a way to curb white births and enable the Kalergi Plan.

>>136308471
In California, there's a lot of "empty" land, but it's used for farming. There's hardly any free space left. America's population should be no more than 200 million in my opinion.

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>>136312403
I understand why people don't live in deserts and mountains, so I purposely chose a picture of relatively flat, fertile farmland. And Russia is the least densely populated country in the world, and it's not because it's uninhabitable - pic related is Siberia in the summer. And don't tell me you need a year-round growing season in order to be considered "habitable".

>>136312018
Well, have you heard about rat utopia?

>>136308633
Oh please, every human wouldn't even take up the space of the grand canyon.

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>>136312721
No, the red pill is solving the overpopulation problem by committing suicide.

>>136314534

Many species do this. They make a lot of offspring in the off chance that one will makenit to adulthood and be successful.

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>>136312910
>literally "the world is overpopulated because I live in a big city"

>>136313148
Nah, it's overpopulated. Just because there aren't lineups on the plains in the middle of nowhere doesn't mean the world isn't overpopulated.

There are lineups on Mount Everest. Does that mean the world is overpopulated? No. However, the resources which require more energy input than is output, the cities which sprawl into nature, the pollution, megacities, noise, and coffin 'homes' do suggest that there is a major population problem.

Most of the cities in the world are 3 days away from a major crisis. And power outages will become a recurring problem in the near future.

>>136316675
doesn't like most of mexico live there? lol

>>136316398
>the world wont be overpopulated until we have a walmart on hevery street and every mountain river and valley is reduced to a mall parking lot
>then I can finally be happy

you're a fucking useless piece of shit who would destroy the entire world for a few pennies in your pocket. I hope if a revolution ever does come that cunts like you will be the first to go.

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>>136316739
1/4

>>136308471
The left no longer believes in overpopulation because it's hegemonic to tell brown people to reign in their total fertility rate.

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>>136311476
>change this to india and capitalism
>bottom picture still the same

>>136308557
FUCK JERZEY

>>136308471
Overpopulation and carrying capacity depend on technology, not just land. Medieval Europe was overpopulated before the 1350s because there were so many people in an economic and structural framework that couldn't support such large numbers.

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wanting all earth to be covered un this shit

>>136308471
This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

Yeah, let's preserve OP's picture instead of filling it with niggers.

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Again, overpopulation is not the lack of free space for humans to live, it's that there are too many people to give an adequate amount of food, luxuries, and necessities. When a population grows, it gets far harder to facilitate all that growth logistically. It puts a strain on the social safety net, it puts a strain on the food producers, it puts a strain on the housing market, it puts a strain on wages, it puts a strain on EVERYTHING.

What don't you retards get about this? The Earth is hella overpopulated. Simple supply and demand.

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>>136314918
they also take it from underground
but there is a fixed quantity of water underground

Currentl Japanese population is too many for the land size.
So we Japanese think the decreasing of population is rather better.

>>136317338
Post Guadalajara. Best city in Mexico.

>>136317314
the world wont be overpopulated until we're all living in Hong Kong shoeboxes

but by that time the damage will be irreversible and we'll all die

>>136317138
Looks like a nice place to hang myself

>>136317354

Don't worry japanon. My Japanese wife and I will replace some lost population in Tokyo.

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>>136317445
nel
#hailcdmx

>>136317475
read Caves of Steel

Honey, there is such thing called infrastructure. If you like to live in middle of nowhere, without water, electricity, internet, heating in some shitty desert you can do it. Oh, I almost forgotten that you're commie cuck and you're zero in sociology

>>136317118
Not entirely true. Farms like Polyface Farms in Virginia are a model of truly sustainable agriculture. They use no synthetic fertilizers and are self-contained and non-polluting closed-loop systems that are completely sustainable. Unfortunately, if we wanted to convert all agriculture worldwide into such sustainable systems AND keep just the current population (not even accounting for any population increases), it would require more arable land devoted to agriculture than is actually available on the surface of the Earth. Something has to give.

>>136308557
Jersey fag here. There's some rural areas, but it's mostly highways, suburbs, and shit tier cities

>>136308471
overpopulation isn't about space but about resources

>>136317540
DF is a shithole, Guadalajara is pretty nice.

>>136317688
Looks like the CN tower on the peninsula, rest of the city looks like Sao Paulo

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>>136315328
> Siberia in the summer

Make white babies.

Sterilize muds and abort their babies.

Problem solved.

>>136317070
>India
>temperate climate
Half the time they're a desert and the other half they're flooded to high fuck. But you'd have known that if you took a single step out of your filthy little socialist cubicle.

>>136317759
So like most of Canada and the US?

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>>136317694
chicano tapatío?

>>136313532
And those worthlrss Ahmeds came from somewhere. It just means geographic and ethnic shift. While Germany got a short term boost in population numbers, the countries where those immigrants came from suffered a loss in populatuon numbers. This is why growth rates are still important to look at. Too bad you westerners have lost the plot and think having children/wives is a bad thing.

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>>136309743
it's about work niger, sort yourself out neet

>>136317475
It's already overpopulated. The West is overpopulated, but not by much

The more competition you have, the worse things are for you

>>136317759
Yeah but they're loaded with malaria/West Nile/zika/other horrific disease are they?

>>136317883
God that looks horrible. No, I just spend the week in Guadalajara for work. Seemed like a nice town. Pretty clean, nice people. I liked it. Usually I get stuck going to Mexico City and it was a nice change.

>>136308471
>white people shouldn't have kids
>it's okay when spics and nogs do it
>an excuse for more immigration
Remember that next time you hear someone talking about overpopulation

>>136317897
>the countries where those immigrants came from suffered a loss in populatuon number
The only country where this happens is Syria, there's no net loss in any other MENA country.

>>136317954
you didn't detect my sarcasm apparently

>>136308471
I hope not... Technology has advanced so much that people fits in smaller and smaller area. Basically we could inhabit much larger human population :3 <3

It's also worth noting that most of the coming population growth (we are projected to hit 10 billion by 2050) will be in the third-world, which contributes pretty much jack shit to the advancement of the human species. Fortunately, the third-world is where most of the casualties when there is a hiccup or collapse in the system of cheap food, energy, and other essential resources, so it will all work itself out in the wash.

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>>136318021
most countries but subsaharian africa are trying to control their population

>>136318223
*where most of the casualties will be

>>136318149
for what reason would you want to live in a much smaller area? just so there can be more people and you can compete for any and every little thing?

kill yourself you fucking retard

>>136318272
>sub-Saharan Africa
>Chicago
checks out Mexibro

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>>136317995


> malaria/West Nile/zika
Nop/

But there are encephalitis mites

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>>136318272
See, you need to get out of Mexico City. Even shitholes like San Luis Potosi look nice in comparison.

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>>136313527
>We need space to live; that means houses; that means quarries to mine materials for homes; logging sites for wood; more mining sites for metal components.

You mean everyone on earth can't live in a huge house and drive a big gas guzzling SUV and leave all their appliances running full blast 24/7 and eat 10 tons of food and create 100 tons of waste every year? World is gettin' overpopulated I tell ya! Need more abortion clinics to get rid of those dreadful brown people!

>the world is finite, and only has so many resources

Europeans thought there were too many people to feed in the Middle Ages, then they invented modern farming techniques. Today we have hydroponics and artificially-grown meat, and some regions have more carbon-free electricity than they can actually use. Every time we think there are too many people to sustain, some clever person finds a solution that doesn't involve genocide or mass-sterilization. And now we see end result - the future of the world is Japan and South Korea - advanced technologies and pampered rich people with no children.

>>136310743
There are no provinces in Australia. We have states and territories.

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>>136318523
I love my city

>>136318534
So you're saying that if we have everyone who isn't from Europe or Japan colonize Mercury we'll be in good shape. I can get onboard with that.

>>136318547
And entirely too many natives. Should have done a better job with that ethnic cleansing!

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>>136318637
Hey, if you guys could figure out the smog, it would be really really nice. Personally, I prefer Toluca.

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>>136318637
> my city
My Siberian shit hole

>>136318534
so we should have billions of people living in total shit rather than a few hundred million living in complete luxury?

>liberal empathy in a nutshell

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>>136318770
My city
>liberal shithole

>>136310876
hah good thing i scored a perfect 100 on my iq test

>>136308471

The counter signal memes really do write themselves don't they

>>136318770
i love how russians have little gardens inside their city lots.

>>136308471
Are you kidding me? Just come to Los Angeles if you don't believe in overpopulation.

>>136308471
It most certainly exists, not because of too many whites though.
Whites are certainly not helping by "helping" africa though.

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>>136318751
too cold for my taste
the suburbs are filled with pilgrims

>>136308471
Overpopulation is a problem. We need to start by humanely culling inferior populations through sterilization, especially the blacks. The African population bomb is probably the biggest thread to the world at the moment. 4 billion fucking people by 2100, maybe more, all of them looking for gibs.

>>136308471
>Over population has to do with available space.

Resources are stretched too thin for an ideal life.

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>>136308471
Even in africa if they just put their unmanaged farmlands to use and produced food and improved the infrastructure they could deliver food to the starving tribes and villages in the countryside.

>>136319049
What about Puebla? Nasty volcano, but you guys worship that or something.

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>>136319164
they hate us
I hate them
I really prefer my city from them all, it just need a paintjob and it would be amaizing

>>136308471
There is no such thing as overpopulation, just lack of resources and infrastructure. Period, end of story.

>>136313866
>It's the 3rd world, Africa in particular, where the problems are.

Of course it is. When people feel like they might not live to see another day, it's a natural human instinct to make babies. And it makes sense - if half your children die from war, famine and disease and violence, then you need to have more to make up for the lost help on the farm. There's a reason rich people don't have children; they don't need to.

>>136308810
Well yes, but infrastructure matters not land. You can have a small amount of land with upwards infrastructure and that's fine. Or large land with wide infrastructure.

Resources yes.

Diversity no. That's a separate issue from overpopulation, strictly speaking

>>136308582
>>136308722
You're right about that cucks. We in the democrat party realize that control you white pussies is a lot easier if we have nigger-skinned minions. Your days are numbered.

>>136319395
They do it because they want free slave labour to take care of them so moms have kids run around to do everything

>>136308471
Yes. Overpopulation is why they invented cell phones. Pay us for a small Microwave in your pocket goy. Will work itself out after 50 years of mass adoption. Only good thing Obombo did was giving cell phones to nogs so they have a less likely chance to reproduce.

>>136319395
>There's a reason rich people don't have children; they don't need to.

Yes, but most rich people are utter morons.

>>136319395
Or it could be lower iq, not thinking ahead and only living in the moment.

>>136319593
t. Larper

>>136314534
they are really that dumb.

>Overpopulation implies every square inch must be occupied

>>136308471
Like billions of useless people including me isn't a problem goyim.

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>>136318788
That's exactly it. People who think overpopulation is a myth would rather us have designated shitting streets. India is the perfect country to them. Densely packed, full of brown people practicing barbaric religions, and an elite class with all of the luxuries.

>>136319743
Better get back to prepping bulls cuck. Stop disobeying Trudeau and stop using these racist websites.

>>136319913
>designated shitting seats

>>136319062
The prince gets it.

Hope everyone on pol saw the multiple decade long study on how sperm count has decreased in the past 40 years for North America. Know why? North Americans are the wealthiest in the world and first adopted cell phones on a mass scale. It was set up that way. If you want kids, don't keep a cell phone on you.

>>136319137
Africans are too dumb to do that.

>i live in an overcrowded urban hellhole so i can see other people living so i can feel like I'm living too
>wow, sure is crowded
>too many people
>needs to be less people
Left projects on literally everything. They view themselves as the exact center of everything, to the extent that they view wherever they are add the exact center of geographic existence.
>it's not a congregation of idiots
>it's overpopulation
If you took one of the sanctimonious overpopulation assholes and put them somewhere isolated for a period of time they'd want to breed without question.

>>136308471
Can you tell me why our world need more than few million people?

>>136308471
The world is finite. Eventually population would become a strain on resources. I have a feeling selecting exclusively for intelligence and punishing virility is doing more to control population than anything. At least among intelligent peoples.

>>136308557
Fuck Jersey

>>136308471
Overpopulation is a myth. You can fit the entire world's population inside the city of L.A. That being said FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

>>136308471
It's why IS exists, it starts with overpopulation in some areas causing migration waves.

The day OK is densely packed it's too late.

We need a 90% cut in population.

>>136320308
It's not a myth, you idiot, you just don't understand it

>>136308471
Overpopulation is only an issue in nonwhite, third world nations and communities.
Yet for some reason it's only whites who are encouraged to do "something" about it.

Gets the noggin joggin.

>>136320308
>You can fit the entire world's population inside the city of L.A.
are we stacking them 50 feet high?

>>136320384
>you idiot
Not an argument.

>>136309781
Alaska area 1.718 million km2
Western Australia area 2.646 million km2

>>136308810
Nigga, stop counting Cinese and Indians and poof, there no overpopulation. Fuck them Asians. The west needs more people. Probably refugees.

>>136320384
No, you dont understand it, even after telling you that you can fit the entire world's population inside the city of L.A. Use your brain, shithead.

>>136310743
>Burger education
Our states ate soverign like yours they federated like yours
Australia is a continent and a country

>>136320434
Shoulder to shoulder

>>136319312
So what city are you really from? I've spent a lot of time in Mexico in a lot of different cities. Most of your country is pretty beautiful. Not Mexico DF, though. It's a shithole and you know it.

>>136318735
Indigenous population of the US 3-5million
Indigenous population of australia 600,000

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Read this and pray you make it

It's not an issue with land density, you idiot.

We're overpopulated because producing goods for 8 billion people from this point onward is not sustainable, let alone all the fucking kids they will have.

>>136320787
We have indigenous people? I thought they were Mexicans who sold cheap smokes in NY state.

>>136308471
As the quality of life increases in first world countries, so too does the strain of resources and space. Realistically the Earth could support an incredible human population if we didn't destroy the surface with homes and infrastructure. The problem is retards in Africa and other third world countries "overpopulating"; they breed like rabbits while being provided funds and food by developed countries.

>>136320571
It's not about running out of space you absolute fucking disgrace of a human being. Use that fucking brain that you supposedly have. Fucking think for once in your miserable life.

>>136320914
Jesus Christ the burger education memes are real.

>>136308471
>disposable plastics
>amonium nitrogen fertilizer run off and nitrogen bloom
>soil depletion from lack of rotation and monoculture
>overfishing
>deforestation
>soil erosion
>chemical waste and pharmaceuticals polluting the water supply

We are highly overpopulated. while everyone is obsessing with global warming, which isn't anthropic, real environmental catastrophes are going on largley unacknowledged.

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>>136320791
>capping your own post

>>136320195
so safe to say we can kill all the niggers?

>>136321141
Jesus Christ the lack of humor in the commonwealth countries is real.

>>136308471
>implying all of the Earth should be afflicted by the cancer of urbanisation

>>136320571
It's about resources anon,
Land suitable for cultivation, drinking water, etc etc.
If your country is importing more food than you can produce your over populated

>>136321241
stop pretending you werent serious

>>136308471
Depends on what you mean. All of the world's fastest-growing populations are unsustainable in the sense that Western aid of some kind is subsidizing their growth, rather than their own cultural advancement.

With Western cultures, population growth is not necessarily a problem. As we've seen throughout history in the West, greater demand has resulted in greater achievement, and all Malthusian predictions--from peak agriculture to peak oil--have failed.

With the welfare apparatus, though, we can certainly see how a bunch of handouts can result in societies growing more quickly than than can be sustained.

I would argue that these societies should be cut off from Western aid. There is no reason to harm ourselves when they can't muster enough foresight to build a proper civilization.

>>136321305
It's all love and peace signs until the mexican rabble shuts down the thruway because cuomo wants to tax sales on indian land.

>>136321308
are you doing this on purpose?

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>>136308582
>Every inch of the earth should be covered in decaying urban sprawl and untold billions of brown people.
Like this?

>>136321441
Trantor?

>>136308471
Overpopulation of non Whites, yes.

Eliminate all of the Muslims, most of the Chinese, Indians and Africans and the world will have a stable population. Too bad the Georgia Guidestones are a joke, depopulation would work in our favor.

>>136321241
>american sense of humour
You cunts can't even handle banter

http://www.theportlygazelle.com/2015/08/26/american-working-in-england-is-suing-his-colleagues-for-too-much-banter/

>>136321499
Is your Mum holding back the Vegemite until you act retarded enough on 4chins?

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>>136308471
Yeah it's easy not to care about overpopulation when you're American and we have just thousands and thousands of miles of undeveloped forests, grasslands, and prairies

if you live in Europe however they don't have such luxuries
Canada and America will be the last hope for human civilization when overpopulation becomes a bigger problem

>>136321156
Basically this.
I'm no green fag, I don't see a problem with using what's most convenient, it's just that there's so much fucking demand that we can watch it fade. There aren't enough trees in Canada to make a stool for everyone in the world to sit down and watch the world burn.

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>>136308810
>>136309175
This


What people don't realize is we don't need any more fucking people. Look st how crowded India and China are we don't fucking need to make everywhere look like that. I for one enjoy living on a small town where there are few people right down to nice shit like not having to wait in line for hours and having free parking

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>>136320911
>We're overpopulated because producing goods for 8 billion people from this point onward is not sustainable
We're doing just fine, faggot. I aint seeing any food shortages or any other goods shortages in the first world.

>>136321091
You still cant even come up with an argument, waterhead. All youre doing now is raging at your screen like a booger eating downy

>>136310481
>Los Angeles
>dense metro
bitch I live right next to Los Angeles
The entire fucking county is the metro.
There are OVER EIGHTY cities right next to Los Angeles, and those are all actually the suburbs to Los Angeles.

>>136321476
Blame!, by Tsutomu Nihei.

>>136309743
It's actually nice living in the other 80% of the landmass and actually having fucking room

>>136309820
>Americans still use A FUCKING RIVER as an official boundary

>>136321717
Sounds like he ripped of Azimov from the foundation
>>136321787
>Meme flags still use a stupid meme flag to act like morons.

>>136321787
>cutting your principalities into commieblocks
Fake flags was the worst thing to happen to /pol/ and square states the worst to happen in the settling of the West.

>>136310048
Yes but

1. Do we actually need that many fucking people? The majority of them if you count all the races are absolute shit that should be culled

2. Do we actually want to live packed like a sardine can? I for one enjoy living in a sparsely inhabited place

3. For the majority of history the population has remained stable not growing or shrinking. Why now all of a sudden do we need to have endless growth? Shouldn't we return to a stable level?

>>136310076
Good. Whites will be fine subhumans who breed like rats will die off

Natural selection

>>136321787
This is retarded many places around the world use rivers as domestic and international boundaries.

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>>136321850
It's got a movie and everything on Netflix.
Blame! is less about humans and more about humanity. Even the main character isn't much of a character.
The whole comic is one atmospheric ride through a dyson sphere.

Picture related in concept.

>>136322059
>Natural Selection
>Whites = Subhumans
>Nazi Flag
Are you one of those confused people that wants to cut their dick off or something?

>>136322132
Sounds kind of interesting. I'll check it out. Remember Scotty died in the Dyson Sphere episode, much respect.

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>>136317688
Stop cherry-picking 3% of the earth's land area trying to convince me that overpopulation is a problem.

>>136322150
>when a simple missing comma confuses the mentally retarded

overpopulation is based on the idea that developing world growth rates would go on forever. Which isn't what's happening, world population is projected to peak by the end of the century

>>136321787
List of internation border rivers
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_border_rivers

Good luck trying to find a lost of domestic border rivers, I would imagine such a lost would be 3 times the size of this one.

>>136308633
This is technically true, you could ahve a fully functioning state with the worlds population inside an area the size of texas, but of course realistically it wouldnt work becuase most people of this earth are not white unfortunately.

>>136321787
Rivers are really good boundaries though. How are you going to properly claim your ownership of territory without satellite imagery?
Rivers are right fucking there.

>>136322305
Neat. You also forgot the
>and will
Maybe learn English before you come here to be a badass.

>>136317497
lol

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>>136311216
>isis was right

>>136322236
>Taking these non-renewable resources into account suggests 2 billion people living at a European standard of living may be the upper limit of a sustainable global population. Climate change will only add to the strain on the planet's ability to support all 7+ billion of us.

http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/3_times_sustainable

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>>136310360
The point about overpopulation is its true when you talk about nonwhites. Whites always had a stable population level it's the nonwhites that are contributing to overpopulation

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Don't have white children goy, think about the overpopulation and climatr change! Support African overpopula- I mean poor African families who dindu nuffin by adopting a black child instead. Let your genes go, goy, don't be selfish...

>>136308722
For real though. White people want more out of life than other races generally speaking. They want bigger living spaces and decent wages. Mexicans are happy to work for shit while living in a tiny house with 17 other people.

>>136311261
>let third worlders die
I agree with this and everything said after

>>136322595
I've been to a lot of places, and this seems very true. I'll also say that Europeans seem pretty happy with tiny flats and walking everywhere. Only Americans and Canadians seem to want space, freedom of movement, and a have that independent spirit.
I can't imagine living any other way.

>>136311765
>World War III will be a resource war resulting in the deaths of hundreds of millions if not billions in the third world and a strict militant western world. I would not be surprised to see outright military rule in many countries

Good

>>136322461
>still being a confused retard

>>136322741
You want what you were born with and were promised.

haha get agenda 21'd you poor plebs. im going to buy a few hundred acres in the middle of the yukon. cozy

>>136322779
Still using a meme flag and expecting to be taken seriously

>>136322783
And what I have. It's good to be an Anglo North American.

>>136322810
>still being a confuses retard who cant even into commas, or ID's...

What a brain.

>>136322595
>white people want more out of life than other races
This is total bullshit, white people who live in western nations just have an easier time achieving higher standards of living. Niggers in western nations have an easier time at achieving higher standards of living, this doesn't mean shit tier poor cunts dont want a higher standard it is just harder for them to achieve.

>>136310076
scientits have literally grown meat on trees. and that was like ten years ago.

Methinks you're wrong.

>>136322862
*confused
>AHURR U SPELLED WRONG

>>136312403
Right because we need to flood white countries with nice open spaces with millions of shitskins and make it a tin shack shithole

>>136322925
Why are you replying to yourself you stupid nigger?

>>136311476
lol sure thing

>>136312734
>we need to fill these wide open plains with cities to house more shitskins

>>136322978
Corrected my spelling, then beat you to a dumb reply, but youre too stupid to understand

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>>136322150
I think he forgot to put his shitposting flag on.

>>136322955
What you say about my humpy?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aC-A6SP3EsQ

>>136317338
It's fixed, and we're draining it faster than it's being replenished.

>>136323064
Cool, you are much better at the 4pol than I am.

>>136318534
We don't need any more fucking people and I enjoy living in my decent sized house in a nice open space. No I'm not going to give up my standard of living so we can take in more shitskins who won't stop breeding like rats

>>136323175
No, youre just a utter retard.

>>136323227
If I want to highlight all of your posts, how do I do that? I have a really cool based black man friend that had that on his ipad, but I have a HP WebOs device. Do you know if there are any apps that I can use to make sure I don't miss any of your posts?

>>136320160
If you look at the shitskins they're definitely getting overpopulated

>>136309253
and niggers, jews, chinks, poos, and mudslimes.

>>136323327
I dont know where you came from anon but you have to go back

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>>136318223
>the third-world, which contributes pretty much jack shit to the advancement of the human species

China was a third-world country in the 1950's. Remember that.

>>136323418
I come from the land of angry manlets with nazi meme flags acting like jackasses.

>>136323437
China was communist in the 1950s they are very much socialist now

>>136320466
The west needs a sustainable population of whites. The rest can fuck off and live in their own squalor

>>136323327
>trying this hard to be retarded
>already are

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https://water.usgs.gov/edu/gwdepletion.html

Everything is perfectly fine, no need to worry about anything.