Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
Oh great, another thread on a political philosophy that fails to recognize the inherent nature of man competing to fulfill his needs.
>>136249992
Communism will win
Remember the Fake news liberals were yapping about? They're using that narrative to censor us.
Porky knows we are winning
>>136250421
communists need to start naming (((the rich)))
>>136251151
It seems much easier to blame the people they hire
Unemployed spic NEET. Spain is a Muslim shithole.
>>136249992
/starvation general/
>>136252101
>>136252213
>>136251402
Holy shit you are so retarded
>>136252436
Not an argument
Trotsky did nothing wrong
>>136252213
>He thinks china is still communist
>>136249992
>>136250309
>>136250421
>>136250658
>>136251002
>>136251402
>>136251598
>>136252213
>>136252803
>>136252884
I can't wait to lynch every single one of you
>>136253419
You will lynch nobody nerd
>>136252803
>this level of delusion
bahahaha
fat Spic is at it again, remember when we found your facebook profile you obese Spanish nigger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHomETco0MI
>>136253288
>>136249992
Why are your memes so shit?
daily reminder
we coming for you buckos
communism shall prevail comrades
>>136253616
left can't meme isn't a joke
they really can't
>>136253419
>/leftypol/
>>136253695
>muh memes
15 year old detected
>>136253780
meanwhile in real life
>>136253616
>>136253695
memes are for vidya playing menchildren
>>136249992
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
>>136253800
>Larping as revolutionaries
>>136253695
>Complains about quality of Memes
>Doesn't post a meme
Every single time.
>>136253976
autism
>>136253997
I'm not larping as anything, I believe in what I say. The majority of /pol/ is larpers but not me
>>136254106
>/pol/ is one person
>>136253997
>majority of /poL/fags are larpers
>accuses communists of being larpers
>>136253925
>bringing a subgun to war outside of a city
>wheelgun casually tucked so that it falls out when you run or go prone
0pur8er
>>136254187
How did I say that you idiot, I said the majority
>>136254059
Hello amigos. This general is for the discussion of Spainfag, the larping, basement-dwelling originator of daily autistic commie threads
Spainfag is the next stage of cuckoldry who follows the failed idea of communism
Who exactly is Spainfag according to everybody who sees his threads:
>Spainfag is an unemployed /leftypol/ drain on society who advocates for gibs cuz he is too lazy to work. He has never produced anything and is thus a waste of resources. He preaches “from each according to their ability and to each according to their need” because he has no abilities and needs to die
>Spainfag in it's full form is a sperging, no class cuck that follows the maxim “lalalala I can't hear your logic” and argues anything you say with cringey pedo memes that are poorly photoshopped to support communism
>To achieve such a high level of autism Spainfag must have been dropped on his head as a baby and been molested by family. His mind is now controlled by the zionist-communist class. A struggle will occur in which the people finally fight back and the zionists will be liquidated by the working class. When the zionist class has been completely vanquished, there will be many classes based on peoples' individual abilities and work ethic, and eventually the functions of the state will become minimized to ensure a free market with low taxes which benefit society as a whole, and the welfare state as such will 'wither away'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
Spainfag uses a philosophy called retardation, see here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism
It is recommended to sage Spainfag threads and post anti-commie memes for maximum keks. Hoppean snake & Pinochet helicopter memes, and factual anti-commie infographs work best
Resources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Hermann_Hoppe
https://www.kikebook.com/HoppeanSnakeMemes/
>>136253997
>>136254238
>>136254285
Nice memes, manchildren
meanwhile in reallife
>>136249992
lmao your fucking boogey man is a pig with a top hat you cant make this shit up niggers hahaha a fucking cartoon pig hahahaha
>>136254360
>this triggered over the pig
u mad, fat american pig
>>136254357
Meanwhile in reallife
>>136254360
>>136254106
you sound like a 15 year old
>>136254546
>Meanwhile in East Germany
Animal farm
1984
>>136254638
How so? I'm 25
>>136254546
meanwhile in a capitalist reallife
b-but its not real capitalism xDDxDD
>>136254595
>>136254418
why do you fear the piggy?
is it because it's not kosher?
>>136254692
What are you saying? You realise Orwell was a socialist?
>>136254638
The difference between leftists and this ideologically vacant board is that they are capable of actually organizing.
>>136254756
Orwell was also a man in an insane asylum that completely debunked your frivolous ideaology with these two books
what's your point?
>>136254746
I had bacon for breakfast.
>>136254106
get out of your mothers basement you NEET
>>136254927
these make me see hope in communism rising again.
>>136254895
>Anarcho-communists organizing
You're a retard
>>136254672
>>136254734
>commies think i endorse jewish capitalism
This is why nobody takes you larping LGBTQQABCDE+-/*sqrt(ln(x)) faggots seriously.
>>136254927
>I had breakfast.
with communism? I highly doubt it
>>136254997
>communism rising again
HAHAHAHAHA
*breathes in*
AHAHAHAHAHA
How does it feel to be a "useful" idiot?
>>136254905
>Orwell was also a man in an insane asylum
What?
>frivolous ideaology with these two books
He was against authority and in the chase of animal farm, Stalin's take over of the communist party. Not against socialism at all.
Have a quote from Orwell:
>It is not possible for any thinking person to live in such a society as our own without wanting to change it. For perhaps ten years past I have had some grasp of the real nature of capitalist society. I have seen British imperialism at work in Burma, and I have seen something of the effects of poverty and unemployment in Britain. In so far as I have struggle against the system, it has been mainly by writing books which I hoped would influence the reading public. I shall continue to do that, of course, but at a moment like the present writing books is not enough. The tempo of events is quickening; the dangers which once seemed a generation distant are staring us in the face. One has got to be actively a Socialist, not merely sympathetic to Socialism, or one plays into the hands of our always-active enemies.
>>136255058
>>136255001
The dsa membership has exploded over the last year, so I'm not sure what your point is. They run grassroots campaigns for candidates, help local union organization, protest exploitative practices, they are honestly making real changes and it is only accelerating.
capitalist pigs
>>136254672
>feel
You really are retarded
>>136254997
Thanks comrade
>>136255007
>>136255037
The less you know about something the more likely you are to want to fight it.
>>136255273
literally nothing wrong with it
>>136254905
Have another quote from Orwell
>Therefore a Socialist United States of Europe seems to me the only worth-while political objective today
http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/European_Unity/english/e_teu
>>136253419
Why?? I don't get all the amounts of hate for comunism. I'ts not perfect but god, It's waaay less degenerate and destructive for the nation and the race than capitalism.
>>136255007
Come home white man
>>136255383
>>136255561
>leading Bolsheviks were all Jews
>come home white man
It's a given that you're mentally retarded but this is a new low
>>136255499
>nothing wrong with 0.000001% holding 2/3 of all wealth
you pig
Reminder that politically correct posts on a politically incorrect forum should be banned
>>136255659
>proles in Commie nations have wealth
HAHAHAHAHAHA
*BREATHES IN*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
>>136255679
>waaahhh my safe space!
>>136255547
>for the nation
for the world. just look at the pollution
Well constructed argument, retard
>>136255659
wealth is not a zero sum game
>>136255723
Waah going against what a board should be is good, goyim.
Threadly reminder that Marx was a NEET that never held a job and just sat around in coffee shops writing while living off of his rich capitalist friend Engels.
He is the definition of bourgeoisie, ironic hes exempt from criticism from his fangoys.
Reminder that these are people that will wholeheartedly make fun of people who deny or are skeptical about the Holocaust but at the same time will say that Holodomor was Nazi propaganda
>>136255723
well, he makes some point
>>136255652
>>136255796
>>136255706
Except that's wrong. The Soviet Union after Stalin took over was a white man's heaven. He got rid of bolsheviks and reinstored russian nationalism and pride. The time after WW2 is not called for nothing the golden age of soviet union.
Come home white man. Together we will conquer Space.
>>136255480
>The less you know about something the more likely you are to want to fight it.
Kind of a double edged sword there dumbass because you obviously know nothing about communism if you think it actually works. Not that commies would ever listen to reason, you're afraid of a cartoon pig
>>136249992
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>>136255852
Marx was a kike, Lenin was a kike, Trotsky was a kike.
Every single one of your gay ass manlet heros was a filthy fucking JEW
gas yourself, larping NEET.
>>136255480
>>136255835
No he doesn't. The fact that the board is named 'politically incorrect' means nothing. Read the rules. If you want opposing thoughts banned then go to the_donald or somewhere
>>136255878
bullying these nu-male commies is fun though, none of them even respond to arguments because they're literally too stupid.
>>136255904
Hitler's financiers were jewish. So what? Hitler was a socialist as well.
>>136255933
i said SOME
>>136255933
So that's why you faggots swarm /pol/
If you have any opinion that differs from the brainwashed masses of communism you get banned from /leftypol/
>136255933
Nigger just go to fucking /leftypol/
>>136256074
not your safe space here, drumpfgh tard
>>136255986
You haven't made any arguments, you are just shitposting
>>136254595
and that matters because???
Oh that's right, they need to be living in a shack conserving rations huh?
While the hierarchy of the state enjoys Capitalist products and services.
Makes a lot of sense, commie nigger.
>>136249992
>>136256028
>Hitler's financiers were jewish
nice meme
your entire ideology is Jewish, also whats with Commie heroes and being turbo manlets? Lenin was like 5'1, Trotsky was like 5'6 and Stalin was 5'5
is there something about being a non-white midget that draws """people""" to communism?
>>136254672
Ya that's not a lie or anything.
>136256028
Yeah and Hitler was a shit leader along with Stalin. What's your point?
>>136255986
there's no argument from your side. I've made plenty and get harassed with " go back to lefty/pol/ xDD"
literally menchildren
>>136253485
t. omega kiddie in mom's basement
>>136256162
>An ideology is wrong because the leaders under a certain body size
This is a new low for retards on this board..
>>136256113
Good bait, i wonder how many people will take it
>>136249992
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. https://www.gommies.gom/fug/ https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here: https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources: https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/ https://www.gommies.gom/1984/ https://www.gommies.gom/guck/ https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/ https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/ https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/ https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
Da sdages of gommunism.
Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Mы идeм шиpoкими пoлями
Ha вocхoдe yтpeнних лyчeй.
Mы идeм нa бoй c бoльшeвикaми
Зa cвoбoдy Poдины cвoeй.
Mapш впepeд, жeлeзными pядaми
B бoй зa Poдинy, зa нaш нapoд!
Toлькo вepa двигaeт гopaми,
Toлькo cмeлocть гopoдa бepeт!
Toлькo вepa двигaeт гopaми,
Toлькo cмeлocть гopoдa бepeт!
Mы идeм вдoль тлeющих пoжapищ
Пo paзвaлинaм poднoй cтpaны,
Пpихoди и ты к нaм в пoлк, тoвapищ,
Ecли любишь Poдинy, кaк мы.
Mapш впepeд, жeлeзными pядaми
B бoй зa Poдинy, зa нaш нapoд!
Toлькo вepa двигaeт гopaми,
Toлькo cмeлocть гopoдa бepeт!
Toлькo вepa двигaeт гopaми,
Toлькo cмeлocть гopoдa бepeт!
Mы идeм, нaм дaльний пyть нe cтpaшeн,
He cтpaшнa cypoвaя вoйнa.
Tвepдo вepим мы в пoбeдy нaшy
И твoю, любимaя cтpaнa.
Mapш впepeд, жeлeзными pядaми
B бoй зa Poдинy, зa нaш нapoд!
Toлькo вepa двигaeт гopaми,
Toлькo cмeлocть гopoдa бepeт!
Toлькo вepa двигaeт гopaми,
Toлькo cмeлocть гopoдa бepeт!
>>136256113
this picture is wrong. they wouldn't afford a coffin
>136254672
>Bonstein
this thread is just more proof /pol/ is part of Russian GRU psy-op
and /pol/ is perfectly OK with that.
HURRAY FOR THE GRU!!
>>136255933
>If you want opposing thoughts to be banned...
It's good to have opposing thoughts. The fact that you won't budge despite being disproven multiple times due to you redefining the term communism every time it doesn't work is a bad thing.
>>136256120
The argument is that you follow the ideology of a bourgeoisie NEET kike that profited off the oppression of the proletariat through his homosexual relationship with Engels.
You're not ideologically consistent, you're hypocrites, not to mention your political and economic system has failed and oppressed its population anywhere it's sprung up.
Stop living in the 20th century, your meme ideology is dead as fuck. Even China has moved on
>>136256028
What's it like knowing the soviet space program embarrassingly lost the space race to a superior capitalist country?
You will always be losers
>>136256256
>cant even format the post properly
moron, thanks for the bump though
>>136256236
how do you reconcile your hero being a obese bourgeoisie NEET that profited off the working class?
if you can't stop sucking Marx's mutilated kike dick for one second and realize you've been duped then you're just a faggot and should end your pitiful existence.
>>136249992
Communism is shit, it has been tried more than capitalism and fails every fucking time. Hating communism comes to nothing more than basic pattern recognition. If a population could magically sustain and function with communism, it would still fail to advance and provide as a capitalistic nation/government/economy could. You have been saged.
>>136255933
I think there isn't much that you can do that is more politically incorrect than posting from a Communist flag on /pol/
Look at how these snowflakes are triggered >>136256053 >>136256071 >>136256074
>>136256349
>american pigs HAVE to rely on Soviet Soyuz in order to get men to space in 2017
>soviets lost space race
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
At first I thought you retarded faggots did this just to be trolls but you've shown me through time you're actually pathetic retarded losers who will never amount to anything in their lives and that slave-morality is all you have to hope to be "equal" with the others around you who don't want your Communist ideology that are far better than you'll ever be.
In short, fucking kill yourselves. Go back to 8ch you worthless fucks.
fpbp
sage
>>136256445
All I'm hearing are excuses for bring subpar and over budget
>>136256129
>and that matters because???
>>136256409
>me
>triggered
in your autistic rage, you didn't realize that i was actually on your side
>>136256397
no commie will respond to this, imagine that.
dudes literally worship an obese bourgeoisie rabbi while simultaneously harping on about muh capitalism, its absolutely pathetic.
>136256409
>maybe if I keep throwing the word "snowflake" around and act like I know what it means maybe t will stick
>>136256397
>has a BILLIONAIRE president who profits from his presidency to make more money
>when he fails, he gets his allies to allienaite against a country
Besides, Stalin didn't steal anything. He rebuild the soviet union and made it a worldpower which won against the nazis.
>>136255480
>>136255561
>commies
>white
Jews aren't white.
>>136250182
The first post is the best post. Hail victory!
>>136256409
>The other anon is a triggered snowflake because I have no argument
Settle down there propaganda bot, you can't afford too many replies on that communistic economy
>>136256520
go suck your billionaires president dick, it will make him rich
>>136249992
go back to leftypol cunt
>>136256658
then why did "subhumans" win against you?
>>136256633
Huh the only one I whorship is stalin. I obey to stalinism.
How's your billionaire president going?
>>136251002
>>136249992
>Let's kill millions of people and steal everything they own
Why are socialists such hateful people?
heil my brother
lets kill everyone with the will to create new stuff so they cannot overtake the workers pay! ho ho ho, we gonna go!
>136256756
Because of a shit leader and combined retard strength
>>136256830
I see no problem with stealing everything from babyboomers and redistributing their wealth.
>>136249992
saged
i wish we had some actual discussion without meme masters, trolls and falseflagers
>>136256939
Not possible here. American pigs get triggered too fast. Their IQ is too low.
>>136256754
Leftypol is trying to take over bant and pol because they're jealous of our success. Nobody gives a fuck about cripplechan and this makes them more pissed than anything else. They're one big joke.
>>136256939
Yeah same. Maybe someday the autists will stop freaking out about seeing a communist general. In the mean time if anyone has genuine questions then lets hear them
>>136256939
Considering Communism is like considering flat Earth theory. Both are retarded, and were proven wrong centuries ago.
>>136256708
We came out of spiritual communism into individualistic materialism which you are confusing with capitalism). Spiritual capitalism will be the future, followed by a common goal government.
>>136256986
Half this thread are arguments you've ignored and instead posted irrelevant images of Huffington post articles
>>136257128
Why wrong? Communist russia was thriving, except that it was sanctioned to the ground and couldn't survive like that.
Capitalism on the other hand is being kept alive like a sick patient with bailouts left and right, eventhough it failed multiple times
>>136256570
>you didn't realize that i was actually on your side
Sorry my bad saw the some in all caps and misinterpreted that.
>>136256698
>Mods should ban Communism General from /pol/
>Not mad
Ok if you say so
>>136257128
that's what i'm talking about. not even a slight effort in that post
>>136254059
>says the communist
>>136257157
>>136256552
What do you mean your "arguments"? All i see is your meme ball.
Meanwhile americans still take soyuz spacerockets to get men to space.
b=bbut capitalism is superior
Why do you think capitalism is just a few people hording the sheckles? Capitalism has bought you the industrial revolution, which has given us cheap clothes, textiles etc and the mindset had this pushed us into the modern era where we're having this argument right now. If capitalism didn't exist you wouldn't have the internet. Communism couldn't have done that. Without an incentive people wouldn't do things like this. We are no-where near the time at which we can't progress any further. We will need capitalism for another good hundred years so long as there even is a limitation as to how far we can go with innovation.
>>136257045
Genuine questions here.
If communism works, why has it always failed and led to mass starvation? If that wasn't "real communism" then why hasn't your magical system been tried yet? Is it because everyone else is just stupid or is it because you're a basement dweller with unrealistic ideals who's out of touch with reality? You tell me.
>>136257224
>Mods should ban Communism General from /pol/
Not really. I think it's hilarious to watch a bunch of twinks get scared shitless over a cartoon pig in a top hat
>>136257128
but that wasn't true communism its never been tried
>>136257224
>>136257351
The leading superpower (the USA) saboggated every communist endeavor left and right. Recent example is north korea, besides being sanctionned , their GDP is still GROWING.
>>136250182
fpbp
>>136256445
Sounds like the free market fixed it :^)
>>136253419
Amen to this
>>136257223
>Communist russia was thriving
Yes, all of those millions starving farmers and people in prison camps in the wilderness really loved it.
>>136257391
>scared shitless
How can you get "scared" by the retarded, PC version of the Happy Merchant. This is why leftist memes suck. All your memes are copycats of the Right's memes
>>136249992
Could someone explain to me what the ultimate goal of communism is and how you want to achieve it?
From what I understand you believe the ultimate goal is complete equality and this is achieved through ensuring a distribution of resources where everybody gets the same share, but is there more to it all?
>>136257289
I didnt say my comments specifically, I said thread. Typical communist idiot can't into reading comprehension
And you still lost the space race. Loser.
>>136257600
source needed
Memes not allowed
>>136257470
>>136257524
>waaah (insert person, place, thing or idea you don't like) caused this! It's all thier fault!
Yeah, haven't encountered this horse shit before.
>>136257668
You first, faggot.
>>136257629
>US man space ship canceled
>Russia only country to still have manned capabilities
>space race lost hurr!
>>136257736
>proving a negative
thats not how it works
>>136257351
>because you're a basement dweller
You just couldn't resist huh? I'm not but okay
>If communism works, why has it always failed and led to mass starvation?
Well this isn't a simple question. There are many reasons that communism 'failed' and it depends on your definition of 'failed'
First off the soviet union created a world super power under a socialist system (not going to say communist because it wasn't but any definition). The soviet union imploded because Gorbachev wanted it to fail. He was working with western powers to make it happen.
Another thing to consider is that communism is really supposed to evolve from already developed countries, most socialist states are starting from an already bad place. You also have to consider pressure placed on them from the west.
>>136257223
>it failed multiple times
Show a few examples then. Examples like how Communism in Venezuela is failing right now
>>136257727
>>136257668
>source needed
Are you that retarded you can't google the words "Gulag" and "Holodomor"?
>>136257807
>Show a few examples then
ok
>>136257784
For fucks sake. You said communist Russia was thriving. You need to back that shit up.
>>136257746
You still lost the space race
Communists will invariably always lose at everything, everytime.
But good job not taking my advice on addressing any arguments. Forty keks, friend
/leftypol/ has got a little too uppity as of late
>>136257524
If your nation can't survive outside pressure that reflects the internal functions of the nation being in one manner or another a failure.
>>136257905
so what does gulag have to do with economic performances?
Also muhh holdomor, I said no meme, didnt even happen
>>136254059
communism
>>136257807
>>136257939
The soviet union was thriving yes.
There were no longer massive disruptions to society and it settled into the comfortable stability throughout most Russian territory. The key goal of the time was not to improve on that so much as to drag the hinterlands of the Union to this level. That project mainly manifested itself in the continued mass vaccinations, road-building, school and hospital creation in the Central Asian part of it, and it largely worked: from 1920’s to 1980’s, they went from the Middle Eastern level of development to one nearly level with Eastern Europe.
>>136257969
>le helicopter rides
lmaoo XD
>>136257668
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
Commies make the Jewish holocaust figures look like a joke. This is why nobody wants you and your shit.
>>136257806
>wadnt reel gommunizm
>but xyz did this!
Invalid arguments. Doesn't compute.
>>136254713
Even worse
>>136257943
>(((space race))) short term win
>USA Has to scrap their shit space program
>can't even get people to space anymore
but according to your meme xD ball, communists don't think about long term periods? I thought your meme was true xD
here's a protip to uneducated haters:
does it have money?
does it have a leader?
if you get a "yes" to any of these questions, it is NOT a communism. this is an absolute, undeniable fact by definition and every of your hateposts becomes automatically invalid
>>136258099
Nice anecdote. I need real sauce though.
No
>>136249992
I honestly think that the technological body in the past hundred years is a fluke. I Believe in anarcho capitalism, but I do agree that communism should be the ending state of human society, I mean perfect communism. (No pun intended) but we are not nearly smart enough to pull it off (yet) for now, capitalism is the only way we can function as the new species we are.
>>136257600
Proofs billy.
>>136250309
Goyim exist only to serve Jews as slaves. Goyim were only born to serve us. Without that they have no place in the world. Only to serve the people of Israel. Why are gentiles needed? They are only here to work. They will work, they will plow. They will reap. We will sit like effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.
>>136257986
So does that mean USA is weak and a failure because Russia succeeded in manipulating the presidency and triggering internal conflicts in the US
>>136257969
>>136258207
Then what's the point of anarcho communism?
>>136258270
See >>136258154
Learn to read.
>>136258204
How's the communist space progran going right now? Nowhere? How unexpected. Please continue posting your cute pig meme instead of addressing any difficult questions
>>136258207
Thats true but they will just respond with 'not real communism XD' it makes it hard to have real discussions.
For the sake of argument I just ignore it and assume they are talking about 'socialist' states
>>136258154
>800,000 prisoners under Stalin for either political or criminal offenses, around 1.7 million deaths in the Gulags and some 390,000 deaths during kulak forced resettlement – for a total of about 3 million officially recorded victims in these categories.[54]
>3 million is now more than nearly 20 million of the holocaust
>>136258154
muh 666 million victims of communism
by that logic the population of russia wouldn't exist anymore if 6666 million of them died under stalin
>>136258370
No proofs for Holdmor was there.
It literally did not happen.
>>136258277
Pretty sure being a decadent piece of shit transcends religion and race
>>136258410
lol this
capitalist pigs on this board are pathetic
>>136258375
Pretty good. Soyuz being the only possible way to get people to space, eventhough Capitalist pig Musk tries so hard with taxpayer money to get US manned program going, he fails.
>>136249992
>>136258370
holdomor never happened
>>136258557
Private property only benefits the jew and his banking cartels.
You are the only jew here.
>>136257624
Enslave the goyim cattle
>>136258109
seems i've struck a nerve :^)
the commie fears the rotary
>>136258465
Meant to say greedy decadent piece of shit
>>136257624
>Could someone explain to me what the ultimate goal of communism is
Post scarcity society
> how you want to achieve it?
with technology
>>136258410
>mao killed 45 million in 4 years
>gummunism nevr hurt no1 u guise!
>>136258458
>666 million
>6666 million
What?
>>136258464
>>136258591
Yeah, just sweep it under the rug.
>>136258658
I think you are confusing globalism with capitalism, the two don't need to be mixed.
Question for commies, Stalin or Trotsky? Who was in the wrong here?
>>136258550
Which communist government is launching these Soyuz rockets exactly?
Oh right, none of them can even afford to feed their citizens, let alone buy rocket fuel
I also see you idiots are still avoiding any difficult questions
>>136249992
We've had just about enough of this shit.
You're going to find out soon what happens when you push someone into a corner.
Of course you probably already know.
The question is, have you accepted it yet?
>>136252803
This is wrong though. Why lie? Pretty sure communism isn't as retarded as you're making it out to be.
>>136258821
What do you mean?
Communists still launched them.
And then Russia took over.
What's your point?
>>136258658
>Private property only benefits the jew and his banking cartels.
Then why did the jewish bankers finance the Bolsheviks? Also, did you know western capitalists called in to restart manufacturing in the Soviet Union after the revolution?
>>136258707
>>136258790
Stalin
Fuck Trotsky
>>136258763
Communists couldn't produce technology even if they were given infinite time and resources.
>>136258959
>Communists couldn't produce technology
nigga what
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_the_Soviet_Union
>>136259029
Did that help stave off their collapse or no?
>>136258892
My point is that all but one communist countries were and are too poor to fund space programs, and the one that did was left so weak that it capitulated to the call of superior capitalism
Keep avoiding the difficult questions, my boy
>>136258959
This. They stole everything from computer to rocket and nuclear technology from the US and Germany.
>>136259119
You waht nigga, the soviets literally explored the solar system, going to the venus an shiet
How do capitalist deal with the fact that private property can not exist without a state
Why do the left insist on proving that their memes are shit?
>>136259161
>US pig complaining about stealing space technology
Without germans you wouldn't have even produced rockets or gone to the moon you retard
>>136257345
>>136259209
memes are for children
we don't use memes
>>136259209
Why do the right care so much about fucking memes?
>>136259029
What incentives are there to make sure everyone gets an equal quality/type of technology?
>>136259209
>>136258903
*teleports you 100m into the air*
*throws you into the ocean*
*restores economy*
pssh, nothing personnel kid
>>136259119
>>136259297
The free development of individualities, and hence not the reduction of necessary labour time so as to posit surplu labour, but rather the general reduction of the necessary labour of society to a minimum, which then corresponds to the artistic, scientific etc. development of the individuals in the time set free, and with the means created, for all of all people.
>>136249992
Fuck off and kill yourself before we get you.
>>136259290
>Why do the right care so much about fucking memes?
Because you keep spamming them and they suck.
>>136259342
This is better
>>136259455
>killed x amount
you people really believe that shiet?
>>136259237
Exactly. Everyone except communists created their own technology. Germans created rocket tech, the US created modern computers and we still dominate to this day in the desktop market.
>>136258767
>muh mao
20 million die annually due to starvation in market economy systems, so 45 million in 4 years is extremely small in comparison.
As for the holdmor, Ukrainian government has tried to prove it to UN unsuccessfully as genocide for nearly 3 decades. If there were proofs they would have come up by now.
>>136259455
Much better.
>>136259495
You really believe this shit? >>136259403
>>136259510
lol you mad, fat pig. Modern computers were created by the british BTW.
>>136259414
Oohh your'e hard
>>136259400
>>136259495
Yes, because it's true.
>>136259565
yes ?
>>136258790
Stalin was in the right.
Trotsky showed his incompetence regarding soviet peace treaty with Germans and how that effected the Finnish revolution.
>>136259495
Millions
>>136259617
propaganda to so smear stalin, who jews hate
>>136259266
>memes are for children
>we don't use memes
This entire thread is a circle jerk of regurgitated memes
>>136259216
>>136259431
>DUDE MEMES
Reddit complains about meme quality. Go there and stay there
>>136259495
Even Karl Marx was a jew.
>>136259290
uhh.. fox and the grapes much? lol
>>136256726
>says the welfare monkey
>>136259589
>nazi
lol nerd
>>136259517
Did you know at one point Mao wanted to take away individual names from the Chinese? You have no knowledge of history, and probably never read a history book.
>>136259517
>20 million annually in ALL market economy systems due to starvation
>out of a world of around 7-8 BILLION
>where I can count the number of communist countries left on one hand
Hahahahahahahaba
>the UN doing anything good or useful
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>136259770
its just chinks being chinks. has nothing to do with communism.
>>136258898
Imperial Germans funded the Bolsheviks, along side some British liberals in 1910`s not the wallstreet.
>>136259796
REMOVE COMMIE NERDS, DAY OF THE LOCKER NOW
>>136259744
>babby needs memes to understand complex political concepts
Cute
>>136259818
Say it with me
WASN'T
>>136259742
hitler was a jew too
>>136259818
This is why we'll kill you if we have to.
The End
>>136259892
REAL
>>136253976
Bless you Anon, this is the only reason I open these threads.
>>136259617
>muh holdmor
KEK
>>136259919
GOMMINZM
>>136259892
REAL CAPITALISM
>>136259912
you can't even push your cheetos in your mouth, you fat nerd
It's funny because the only reason you all have the education, time, and money to even contemplate ideologies like communism is because of modern capitalism.
>>136259737
>>136259597
>yes ?
You are calling others stupid, yet believe that the free development of individualities will do all of those tasks without some kind of non monetary incentive? All of their needs are taken care of, what is the point of doing any of that when I could just sit back and do nothing?
>>136259870
[fox and the grapes intensifies]
>>136259744
>you
>>136260008
Because that's where the world is heading, ultimately, wether communism will be implemented or not.
>>136259960
Yet we're still here and we're still relevant. What does that say about communism? It's system that's weak like its followers.
>>136260121
not an argument
>>136260007
>>136260137
new thread
>>136258305
muh russia.
why no liek russia? is it because they aint faggy commies no more?
>>136259770
I`m quite sure that I have read more history than you. Indeed but he changed his mind after he grew out of the leftcom phase.
>>136259794
If we take time into comparison here, its clear that communist countries have fewer mass starvations.
>lele im just pretending to be a retarded commie XDDDDD bump my ever same retarded and revisionist bullshit spammed by scrawny leftyfaggots every day
Stop feeding these retarded kids with replies
>>136259990
Communism can only survive on the economic loan given to it by a capitalistic system
Once the capital is used up, collapse. Every time.
>>136260106
Anyone who talks of their ideology bring 'utopia' or whatever is fucking retarded.
>>136259968
Smoloko.com is run by Richard Spencer's kid brother Scottie. Shill harder.
>>136260244
What do you call this haricut?
>>136260244
Didn't know that, found it on Jewgle. Not a shill. Is the image inaccurate?
>>136259892
>Say it with me
>Then proceeds to say it himself >>136259919 >>136259957
Son you need to buy a private jet to keep those demons away
>>136260303
Gay
NEW THREAD
>>136260137
NEW THREAD
>>136260137
NEW THREAD
>>136260137
NEW THREAD
>>136260137
>>136259990
It's funny because the only reason you all have the education, time, and money to even contemplate ideologies like capitalism is because of late feudalism.
>>136260331
fuck off
>>136260303
Pineapple
>>136260303
>>136260326
How does it feel being the useful idiot of child-raping kikes?
>>136260201
>>136260381
You
>>136259852
You sure about that?
https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Aschberg
>Olof Aschberg (22 July 1877 – 21 April 1960) was a Swedish banker and businessman. Aschberg was a leftist sympathizer and helped finance the Bolsheviks in Russia. In gratitude, the Bolshevik government allowed Aschberg to do business with Soviet Union during the 1920s. In 1922, Aschberg founded Roskombank, the first Soviet international bank.[1]
>Due to his Jewish background he was endangered when France was invaded by Nazi Germany in 1940 and could not sooner as January 1941 leave Europe via Lisbon when Vichy government gave order to set him free
>>136260106
>it will be utopia, because I said so.
Ok pal.
>>136260185
>not a real argument
>no real communism
>not real reality
You're a one trick pony, aren't you?
>>136260211
If we take mathematics into account here, it's clear that you can't use a calculator.
>>136260326
Do you know how I know you're new here?
>>136260402
lmao
>>136260402
>capitalists fought Germany with the Soviets
>somehow freaked when they take the East
It's like you're fucking retarded or something
>>136259403
So what you're saying is the self progression of individuals is free, communists don't have to work more than they have to, its better if people eventually don't have to work so much because then they get to self-progress in artistic & scientific areas and then somehow means are created?
What was that last part about the means created for all of all people?
>>136260396
You tell us
>>136256756
Because americans are stupid enough to be played by them and commies are jew puppets anyways.
>>136260534
I can't even. Maybe I'm mistaken, but since when do shills say anything regarding pizzagate other than "take your meds, schizo?" This has to be bait.
>>136260574
>>136260574
>>136260574
New Thread
>>136260036
/leftypol/ looks like THAT?... woah...
>>136259901
No he wasn't. That not true.
It's funny how the communists haven't been able to properly address any of my arguments, and have tactically ignored most of everyone else's in this thread. Yes, we're so impressed by your pig meme superimposed on leftie blogs
Really rotates my turbines
>>136260683
>>136260683
You would have the print of my knuckles in your face for the rest your life, if we ever met.
>>136261383
Oooh, internet tough guy.
>>136261383
>You would have the print of my knu--