>>136244906
this time, Russia was truly BASED.

i can really hear from here all those s*rbs Screeching about their "greatest ally" giving them a Big Middle Finger to them.

>>136244906
Germany declared its independence.
Right after, the war started.
Explain to me why Germany so wanted to start a war in the Balkans?

>>136245183
Are you drunk Hans?
>Germany declared it's independence
What the fuck are you talking about?
When did Germany declare it's independence?

http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1501907440187.webm
remove kebab and serbs

>>136245361
Helmut Kohl did.

The Presidents of the two breakaway Yugoslav republics visited Germany this week, and Mr. Kohl told both of them of his decision to recognize their republics as sovereign nations. Several other countries, including Sweden, Italy, Austria and Hungary, are likely to follow Germany's lead.

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/08/world/germans-follow-own-line-on-yugoslav-republics.html

>>136245963
>unarchived clickbaiters
https://archive.is/XA3pp

>NATO embargos Croatia
>Russia sells us weapons

and guess in who's team we're now

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>>136245963
Ok lets try again. The verb you are looking for is "recoginze", as in:
>Germany recognized the independence of [enter country here].
Germany didn't "declare" independence since that would mean they, themselves, had to go through a phase of recognition.

As to you question:
>Explain to me why Germany so wanted to start a war in the Balkans?

Why are Germans trying to start wars where ever they go?
Why were they arming Saddam and the Peshmerga?
Why were they selling arms to Assad and Saudi Arabia, which then shipped the weapons to ISIS?

They are trying to spread their financial influence by dismantling other countries, destroying their economies and then buying everything up at much lower prizes.
Typical Übermensch. Act like a monkey, but still think you are morally superior.

>>136246684
>Russia sells us weapons\

Germany did. Germany armed you. Russia supported Serbia.

>>136246684
Well, we are going with the flow.
Germans choose their partners based on common interests and financial profit.
Why shouldn't we?

>>136246770
Sure, Serbs admit that Russian didn't support them in their own newspapers.
Russian diplomats admit to selling arms to Croatia en mass.
Croatian diplomats admit to buying arms from Russia.
But Hans knows better, right?
Get the fuck of here.

>>136246770
Not. Russia recognized us before America did.
Nobody was really our ally, all of the world embargo'd us and put UN buffer zones to prevent taking occupying territory back

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>>136244906
>flag

>Germany advocated quick recognition of Croatia, in order to stop ongoing violence in Serb-inhabited areas, with Helmut Kohl requesting recognition in the Bundestag on 4 September. Kohl's position was opposed by France, the United Kingdom[69][page needed], and the Netherlands, but the countries agreed to pursue a common approach by following Germany's unilateral action. On 10 October, two days after the Croatian Parliament confirmed the declaration of independence, the EEC decided to postpone any decision to recognize Croatia for two months. German foreign minister Hans Dietrich Genscher later wrote that the EEC decided to recognize Croatian independence in two months if the war had not ended by then. With the war still ongoing when the deadline expired, Germany presented its decision to recognize Croatia as its policy and duty. Germany's position was supported by Italy and Denmark. France and the UK attempted to prevent German recognition by drafting a United Nations resolution requesting that no country take unilateral actions which could worsen the situation in Yugoslavia.

It was because of the S*rbshits violence.

>fight for independence from a communist political union
>immediately join another one

>>136247218
thank nigel for ur wisdom

>>136247144
Stop spaming.

This is a thread dedicated to the Russo-Croatian brotherhood.
If you'd like to talk about the German-Croatian friendship start you own thread.

>>136246958
Believe your lies. Believe them all you want.
You're beliefs are in direct opposition of what really is true.

>>136247218
Because the same old commies still run this country.
When yugoslavia fell they just rebranded themselves as left and right winged parties.
Many members of our parliament are literally former members of the SKH (Croatian alliance of communists)

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>>136247346
It's ok četnik.
Maybe in the next war Russia will support you.

>>136247379
this. all over again.

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>>136244906
>Serbia creates independent state within Croatia
>Serbian occupation
>Muslims create independent state withing Serbia
>Serbian occupation

>>136247454
Lies to complicate relations with the Balkan states notably Serbia. Russia supported and armed Serbia in the war, not Croatia. Never.

>>136247346
>what really is true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPi0YTxOtNQ

>>136247610
>Serbia kills and dispossesses thousands of Croats
>Attacks Croats in all regions of the country
>Try to kill the Croatian president multiple times, even by firing rockets at the presidential palace in Zagreb


Serbs: Why would anyone say we occupied somebodies territory?

Cetnicism is a mental illness.

>>136248121
Jesus, you should really seek help from a doctor.
If you can't handle the truth you probably shouldn't bother going into this topic.
I know it hurts.
All your life you've been told that Russia is you big brother only to find out that they don't give a rats shit about you.
But that's just how it is. And should there be a new war, they will support us again.

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>>136248256
>Cries about muh thousands innocent Croats in 1990's
>Makes fun of Jasenovac concentration camp where over 100k Serbs were killed during 1941-45

>>136248515
Russia would of course help a nation that endorsed Hitler. Stop it with your shills.

>>136248662
Stop being obsessed with Russia they are opportunist faggots like USA is. They did arm the Croats. When commies killed Tsar Nicholas that was the end of Serbian-Russian friendship. This now is just larp.

>>136248537
No we make fun of your claim of 600 gorillion Serbs.
First it was 1.3 million, then 700K, then 300K, now even the most pro-Serbian historians say that it was probably less than 100K.
And everyone know that half of those were actually people killed by the partisans between 1946-1950.
If the Serbs were this secure about their position they wouldn't have burned all the evidence.

Also, more than 2000 Croats who participated in the war were convicted of war crimes by Croatian courts in Croatia. That's how you own up to your mistakes. Not by hiding yourself in a house of lives cause you can't cope with the miserable reality you created.

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>>136248662
>being this triggered

>>136244906
*Sends Troops to Russian border*

We really are rats.

>>136248662
>muh eternal brotherhood
back to facebook underage

>>136248948
Listen i dont deny that war in Croatia was a retarded thing and that Serbs killed innocent people and did very fucked up stuff but why do always people have to demonize us in every 90's war. You all act like special snowflakes and unicorns when you killed people too and looted the Serb homes and destroyed the Churches as much as Serbs did to Croats in 90's. Like Independence of Republika Srpska is a bad horrific sad thing and everyone is disgusted by it while Everything else against Serb is awesome because we were literally Hitler. You people have a victim syndrome you are obsessed with us, you hate us more than you love your own homeland why are your minds revolving constantly around Serbs?

>>136249699
The only good thing in your corner of the world is Slovenia. The rest of you are all cancer.

>>136249699
The hatred towards serbs brings us together. Once you or other nations are left out of the equation, we hate each others guts again. I wouldn't change it IMO. Nationalism is bluepilled.

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>>136249699
>but why do always people have to demonize us
You did this to yourself. Imagine what the balkan would look like if you just let us and Slovenia secede peacefully. We would have immediately split Bosnia (as was the initial deal between Tuđman and Milošević), and when the shitstorm in Kosovo began a few years later you could have thrown the whole JNA at them and shut it down before anyone in the west could respond.
Instead you declared war on the whole balkan and committed ethnic cleansing all across Bosnia. Not a single Croatian soldier ever set foot on your side of Dunav. You're the one who invaded us - and now you're surprised that everyone sees you as the aggressor.

And yes, we did some nasty stuff too. But by the end of the war, we had no problems hiding it or blaming it on you, since you already painted a giant target on yourself with all the shit you've previously done. Your foolishness is the reason we got away with it.

In 1989 the Workers' Militia (paramilitary of the Hungarian communist party) was disbanded. They had like 10 000 AKs stocked in their armories. Somehow these guns disappeared. Somehow, nobody know how they appeared in Croatia a few years later. It's really a mistery.

>>136251790
Right now, these AKs are in circulation in organized crime cyndicats in the Netherlands among other countries. Imported in bulk cheaply from Croatia.

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>>136248948
conflict between Serbia and Croatia didn't start in the 90s, it started long time ago in the WW1 when croats became race traitors and sided with germs against slavic bretherns, continually trying to annihilate serbians out of existance

99.9% of croatia, be that the elites or the common peasants still profoundly gets triggered whenever the WW1 and WW2 war crimes against serbians are even remotely mentioned
it really makes you wonder?

you claim moral and intellectual superiority but you historic war crimes are amongst the gruesome and savage ones and our schollars, students and academics beat the shit out you at every international competition where mathemathics, physics, science, etc. are involved

you' managed to ruin to most preosperous and powerful corporation in the balkans which market share monopoly were given to you on a silver plate
you're 25 years war free
on a EU life support
and yet you have
a staggering unemployment
abnormal corruption
completely dependent state on a single revenue stream line surviving from tourism
zero industry
negative birth rates and
a massive brain drain


i'm yodeling mate

>>136252009
It's still funny that nobody cared about the embargo and Croatians were able to buy weapons everywhere. Also the money that they paid for the weapons, were stolen buy the politicans, and nobody really know, who profited from it. Truly the 90s were an amazing period.

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>>136251397
imagine what the balkans would have looked like if we dropped you under the bus after you chimped out and helped germs plagued tens of millions of european christians

becasue that's what you deserved for

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>>136251397
i gde ces jaceg dokaza da ste vestacka abortirana nacija iz epruvete koja je ipak nekako prezivela

pogledaj samo ta odvratna i ruzna hrvatska imena koja nemaju nikave veze sa slovenskom kulturom, lingvistikom, jezikomi tradicijom
znaci nema tog hrvatskog imena koje koren vuce iz staroslovenskog jezika
Ante
Franjo
kreshimir
horvat
tudjman
ivo
zrinski
stipe

JEBEM MU MATER KOLKO RUZNA IMENA IMATE

u medjuvremene nas imena\
BOGdan
OGNJEN
MARKO\
ZDRAVko
Nemanja
Petar
Djordje
Nikola
VLADIMIR

nije lako nositi se sa teretom vase jadnog i mizernog postojanja

"Omen est Nomen"

>>136247379
How much truth the words of a certain infamous song have.

>Sve je isto samo njega nema.

svaki ratni tred mi uljepša dan majke mi

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>>136253380
bravo, daj pet

>>136253775
svaka silovana nemica i prebijeni americki goja su dvojica manje olosa koji ce stati da vas brane kad vam se u najskorijoj buducnosti budemo najebali majke za sve
kompletno sa kamatom

kao po starom dobrom obicaju kada svaki put na kraju izgubite

tik tok ustasho
tik tok

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>>136254063
>ova stara uzegla fora

tvoj deda konjusar nije mogao da da pet
zato sto je popio po jezuitskoj picki

>>136249699
>why are your minds revolving constantly around Serbs?

easy political points and general lack of perspective

the only worthwhile thing Croatia ever accomplished was winning that fucking war

and there is nothing else to be proud of, most people turn to that

>>136254494
>and there is nothing else to be proud of, most people turn to that

and WHEN there is nothing else to proud of, most people turn to that

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>>136254494
> was winning that fucking war
but desu even that was done nato, npri and blackwaters with a dash of UN strongly worded concerns and massive fake news shillings
croats only did the legwork
without a proper war organisation and a war plan which croats massively lacked given with their war inexperience, the storm and would have been futile

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>>136254494
>the only worthwhile thing Croatia ever accomplished was winning that fucking war
We fought turks for 700 years straight to keep them out of this land.
Stop being such a self-loathing cuck

>>136248662
USSR was teaming up with Hitler in the beginning, even sent supplies them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Credit_Agreement_(1939)

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>>136254917
WE WUZ FIGHTING TURKS AND SHIETH

until serbs came and stole our sikret vatican space technology

>>136254914

that's all true, and I don't give a fuck

I'm just telling you why croatians are obsessed with serbs and the war

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>>136255155
Oh yes, Europe would have fallen without your military prowess.

>>136254917
>We fought turks for 700 years straight
funny way of spelling 'we cleaned our Austrian lords shit for 700 years'
Honestly I don't remember Croats fighting on the borders or raising revolts

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>>136255247
good
good ante

acceptance is the first step towards the reconciliation

you must be on of those "normal ones" from Istra

Man, Slavs are really really stupid. Always fighting over petty shit.
That's why we will always be exploited by everybody - Germans, Anglos, Jews.

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>>136255386

>>136255510
Speaks volumes of your education system.
Here's an incomplete summary
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian%E2%80%93Ottoman_wars

>>136255386
And your cherries got poped by Sokolovic and his Jannisary hordes

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>>136255661
>cherry picking
Ok, how about the ~450 years you spent as slaves and cannonfodder, willingly killing fellow Europeans and christians to please your turkish masters while they were fucking your women back home?

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>>136255676
can't find a single battle where you fought on your own
WITHOUT BANDWAGONING the rest of 247 european kingdoms

>>136255928
that battle is funny,the Ottomans were losing the entire fight until 1000 heavy Serbian knights (Gusars) came and demoralized the crusaders.

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>>136255928
bad bait mate

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>>136244906
Lmao Serbs are the biggest cucks in Europe, even worse than the Swedes.

>muhhh Russian brothers
*enemy country gets tons of Russian weapons*
>brate brate muh Putin will save us
*gets bombed to shit, Russia laughs*
>t-they c-couldn't help up then but they will in the future
*Gives up half the economy to Russia in return for 4 rusted jets from the 1980s*

Bwhahahaha faggot cucks

Fuck off croat-roach, the only thing you're good for is game of thrones.

>>136256125
>*enemy country gets tons of Russian weapons*
False. That's a lie.

>>136254168
>t. summerfag

pls leave

>>136255510
add 300 more for the catholized mongols

no wonder they call it TISUCULJETNJA HISTORIJA
KEK

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>>136255989
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Krbava_Field
That took a whole 5 seconds

The level of denial from the serb shills here is pretty amazing.
Stay cucked prijatelji.

>>136256384
kek it even says it's myth,Davor are you even trying??
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-6074.html

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>>136256341
dobrovoljno pusim
avarima
dobrovoljno pusim
mongolia
dobrovoljno pusim
madjarima
dobrovoljno pusim
austrijancima
dobrovoljno pusim
nemcima
dobrovoljno pusim
amerikancima
dobrovoljno se blamiram sa
jezuitskim pedofilima
dobrovoljno pusim jevrejima
dobrovoljno pusim evropskim komunjarama

ceo zivot samo pusim tudji kurac

>'rvacka in a nutshell

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Another Balkanik shitthrowing thread. Lmao stop it.

>>136256057
Gusars where light cavalry,Heavy knights where based on German knights.

>>136244906
Germans supported Croatia
Russians supported Serbia

nothing personel kid

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>>136256384
Battle of Krbava Field
-A Decisive Ottoman victor-

Is that why you've chosen to opt out from war fighting and instead turn to into horse shit cleaning

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>>136257034
yeah I just checked,my bad but still Stefan Lazarevic's heavy cav was involved in that battle.

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>>136255613
pic related

>>136257052
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region.php?yyyy=2017&mm=04&dd=18&nav_id=101047

OP is a dis-info shill working for his faggy country.

>>136255613
>When the ukranian is right.

It wont ever stop, because balkniggers can see past their nose.

Why do Serbs not like their greatest ally?

Attorney Itay Mack and Professor Yair Oron, presented the court with concrete evidence of Israeli defense exports to Serbian forces at the time, including training as well as ammunition and rifles. Among other things, they presented the personal journal of General Ratko Mladić, currently on trial at the International Court of Justice for committing war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide. Mladić’s journalexplicitly mentions Serbia’s ample arms ties with Israel

>>136244906
>russians don't respect weaklings
>get steamrolled by serbs for 4 years until Daddy NATO gave you a hand

LOL! Fuck off Zvonko

>>136244906
>nazbol flag
fuck off leftypol pl0x

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>>136257388
Serbs and Israeli are kinsmen ofcourse we like them

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>>136257388
>jews jewing all sides

Give me my howitzers back, Croatian, pls.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMmRAeQTSjc

>>Milan Babić
>>confesses to the war crimes in Croatia
>>Begs forgiveness

Is he a hero in Serbia, or a traitor?

>>136257772
I've always been interested by the Serbs of Croatia, do they have a different accent/dialect to Serbs of Serbia, Montenegro etc?

>>136257772
He's a nobody

>>136257874
Every part of Serbia has it's own accent but Serbs from Croatia have the same gay accent as Croats from Slavonia have.

>>136258013
Was Krajina an actual functioning republic? Did they get assistance from Belgrade?

>>136258123
Krajina was a region that wanted autonomy not a state,it only got funded by Belgrade in the beggining until inflation hit Serbia hard so we stopped funding them,but they still managed to hold of Croats for 4 years which is funny.

>>136258123
No. It was kind of like Mad Max actually. With raider gangs and everything. Sort of like Africa with warlords and shit.

>>136257874
Of course they do, like Sicilians have different dialect compared to somebody form Milan.

They speak mostly Croatian but still use ekavica dialect, meaning they dont have ije and je in words.

(cvijeće--cveće, mlijeko---mleko)

>>136258381
I see, did any of your family go and fight there?

>>136258406
gotcha , man this part of the world is interesting

>>136258406
Wrong you dumbass. They speak strong ijekavica. Mlijeeeko, krompijeeer, Lijeeeka, vrijeeeme... That's because their dialect comes from Montenegrin language.

>>136258473
my dad and uncle they are twins so they joined together,pay was shit so they had to resort to looting abandoned houses.

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>>136258583
Ok, you can relax now

t.kroatist

>>136258690
Hahah, that's hilarious, with the Krajina army or just Chetniks from belgrade?

>>136258796
They are from Cacak a town from the South and they didn't join'd the Chetniks they joined JNA since they were the most supplied

>>136258770
Ijekavica is serbian.
t. historian

>>136252360
this

>>136258960
kek, was it popular for men from Serbia proper to go and fight in Bosnia and Croatia (After the JNA pull out)?

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ITT: This is what a ethno nationalist look like in the real world

1/?

>>136261710
2/?

>celebration in Slunj

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>>136261749
2/?
forgot pic

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>>136261791
3/?

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>>136261825
4/0

>>Sure glad these based irl anons will help us save the white race

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>>136261934
5/?

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>>136260184
for people who wanted to escape from Serbia it was popular since they were poor to begin with and in war you can get rich really easy since you can just loot and rob people.

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>>136261960
>>136261960
6/6

The war is the best thing that could have happened to Croatia.

Speaking in longterm, we have permanently solved all demographic problems a large serbian majority would involve.

If Krajina was made a legitimate part of RH we'd be in a similar position as Bosnia is currently.

And who do we have to thank for that?

The idiotic leaders of Krajina.

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>>136261989
7/6

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>>136262328
8/6

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>>136262352
9/6

Army qt in Slunj

>>136247454
Funniest part is Serbian tanks later passed that colone after running away.

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>>136262506
this is an army qt

>>136244906
Based Russia.

Serbs are fucking subhumans who have constantly sucked Communist cock in order to fuck Europe. They deserve the worst.

>>136257874
basically all ex-yugo nations (besides slovenians and macedoanians) agreed to use croatian dubrovnikian dialect in 1850

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>>136262717
>>136262717
you posted the wrong one anon

>>136262814
Communisam was forced on us after WW2 and Sloba wasn't much of a Socialist/Communist

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>>136263067
But this is my favorite army qt

>>136261960
>they see me rollin' they hatin'

>>136264181
Fali ti imat Talijanskog kralja Ante? I dida i tata i ti bi se gušili u talijanskom kurcu?

>>136265178

too much index, mate

>>136246684
Wait for the EU to fall appart and for the 3-seas initiative to replace it here.

We'll have a nice cold-warm relatioship with Russians then by being good neighbours.

>>136246770
Germany sold weapons to both Croatia and Serbia but the majority of their gear was sold to ''Bosnian Freedom-Fighters''...

>>136247218
We joined because the public wasn't educated about the EU and we were sold the story of it being ''just a common market and nothing more''...
Now the EU is fucking with our economy even more than our corrupt officials.

>>136268665
In the early 90's the Union didn't exist yet. A common market is indeed what it was. European Economic Community. The 12 members signed an agreement in 1991 in Maastricht which later became the Monetary Union.

>>136262209
THIS.

Hopefully the Bosniak Muslims chimp out so we can do the same to them in a joint Removal operation to proove the world that even former Arch-enemies can work against the greater evil.

And then we annex Western and Cetnral Bosnia.

>>136269362
How much better would the world have been without the Euro...

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>>136269460
>Hopefully the Bosniak Muslims chimp out so we can do the same to them in a joint Removal operation to proove the world that even former Arch-enemies can work against the greater evil.
this


i have nothing against croats though, idiots from krajina refused Z4 plan and it's their mistake they thought they would get away with their retarded pseudo-state
i only feel bad about innocent people from both sides who had to suffer all those years

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>>136267927
>>to much index
>>pic related

Learn our history mate.

Tomislav II. (rođenoga imena Aimone Roberto Margherita Maria Giuseppe Torino di Savoia) (Torino, 9. ožujka 1900. – Buenos Aires, 29. siječnja 1948.), talijanski princ iz kraljevske dinastije Savoja, časnik talijanske ratne mornarice te kralj Hrvatske, princ Bosne i Hercegovine, vojvoda Dalmacije, Tuzle i Knina, vojvoda od Spoleta i od Aoste (od 1942.), princ od Cisterna i od Belriguarda, markiz od Voghera i grof od Pondera.