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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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>>136175005
Big if true
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First for communism will win
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Fuck Communism
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>>136175089
hmmm......
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>>136175135
SHIT
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>>136175089
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>>136175214
As you can see, the more economically free a nation is, the more economically prosperous it is.
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>>136175160
>>136175101
you better be sageing. retard
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>>136175262
kys
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hmmm....
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>>136175163
That's a good pic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BulFwGSi8bc
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>>136175342
obviously
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Stop bumping these shitty threads.
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>>136175262
>muh snowflake 19th century philosophy definitions!
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KILL mark zuckerberg this mother fucker is worth billions of dollors
kill Larry Ellison the guy is worth 40 BILLION DOLORS NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THAT MONEY
KILLL ALL THE FUCKING JEWS .. COMMIES PLS KILL THEM ALLL LIKE YOU DID WITH THE FAMINE :: STRIP THEM OF THERE RIGHTS AND SEND THEM IN TO THE GULAGS
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>>136175513
never
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>>136175612
i support communism and the gulag to jew capitalists the jew must be purged they not only control the world but major corporations and all of the banking in the world .
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>>136175005
Hello comrade, revolution when?
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>>136175486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c4LU-eVPwo
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4
Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry :DD
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>>136175770
Never, commies are all faggot SJWs now.
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>>136175770
soon
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>>136175612
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>>136175005
kill yourself kraut
saged you flag clicking nigger cunt
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>>136175998
soon
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>>136176026
>porky doesn't like charity
>literally all of the most famous porkies are huge philanthropists
well I used to be a communist but as you can see by my flag, this preponderance has changed that!
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The absolute state of this fucking board.
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>WTF WE HAVE TO STOP THIS
The capitalist fears the Soviet
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>>136176175
Can we think of anything original comrade? We must seize the memes of production rather than copy what the fascists make.
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venezuela is such a paradise, mmmmmm......
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FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani egdelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism:
1. Communism is the USSR.
The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.
2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR?
Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.
2.2 Communism is a dictatorship
Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.
3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat?
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.
4. But Stalin ...
With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.
5. And yet Stalin ...
We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.
6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin?
Marx
7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists?
Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.
8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy.
By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.
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>>136176290
Russian anons have told me this is mainly due to the nostalgia of the crazy elderly people.
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>>136176306
see
>>136175262
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9. Under communism - all work in the Gulag for workdays on 24/7.
On the contrary, the Communists set their task to reduce the number of working hours, by increasing the productivity of labor. Ideally, we should work for 4 hours in fully automated production, the remaining time dedicated to self-development, art, hobby.
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lmao commies have given up debate and just spam memes because they know that's their best option, since it's trivial to defeat communism in debate
>the LTV
do you /leftypol/ shills >>136176189 >>136176175 >>136176026 >>136175998 honestly believe in the LTV? Machines can be a source of profit, yes? And they certainly don't depreciate in an equal amount to the value they produce (as Marx hypothesized to defend his assertion that machines don't add more value than they're sold for), right? If you answered yes to my last two questions, then you don't believe in the LTV.
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Based communists BTFO alt-right kiddies
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>>136176498
10. But wait! This is a capitalistic post-industrial one!
You are deeply mistaken my young friend. This is precisely communism. And under capitalism you will not get it. Communism is the highest stage of development of society and economy and if capitalism is similar to what I described above, then it turns into communism.
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>>136176175
>i'm too stupid to make my own memes
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Shouldn't a comparison of Hong Kong and mainland China be enough for you guys?
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>>136176396
Because the elderly have seen the tragedies of capitalism first hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tec1B2VMVUU
Going from a superpower into a poverty-ridden miserable state seemingly overnight.
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>>136176300
yes we can kill of all the jew bankers and corporations so we can secure the means of production for us the working class... lel
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>>136176529
On the occasions in which I have been able to talk to commies in depth, a few things have become apparent. First, they are almost always working a minimum wage job. Second, they never think that they will have to do dirty work or manual labor under Communism. Third, by the end of the conversation they usually admit that Communism will never work, but they still fight for it because they have nothing else to live for.
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Communism was the capture of Russia by the Jews.
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>>136176685
Obamacare Architect (((Jonathan Gruber))) Twice Admits Fooling Stupid Americans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hVd2os24rE
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>>136176641
Countries like Czechia and the Baltics have improved since leaving the shitty system you love so much.
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>>136176498
Don't forget the US has more prisoners in the prison industrial complex than the USSR ever had in gulags. Prison is profitable.
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>>136176992
The Jewish Banking Mafia:
Jew - Rothschild Banks of London
Jew - Rothschild Banks of Berlin
Jew - Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris
Jew - Israel Moses Sieff Banks of Italy
Jew - Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Germany
Jew - Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
Jew - Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
Jew - Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Jew - Goldman Sachs (Obamas biggest corporate donor in 2008/2012) CEO Lloyd Blankfein
Jew - The Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yelen (before, Ben Shalom Bernanke and Alan Greenspan) including top shareholders Goldman Sachs (Jewish), J.P. Morgan Chase (Jewish) and the Rothschilds banking cartel (Jewish)
Jew - Citigroup Chairman Stanford Weil and Co Chief Executive Robert Diamond
Jew - Wells Fargo Chairman John Stumpf
Jew - Bank of America Chief Executive Charles Noski
Jew - Barclays Chief Executive Robert Diamond
Jew - J.P. Morgan Chase Chairman and Chief Executive Jamie Diamond
Jew - Morgan Stanley President and Chief Executive James Gorman
Jew - USB AG Chief Executive Oswal Gurbel
Jew - CFTC Chariman Gary G. Gensler
Jew - SEC Chariwoman Mary Schapiro
Jew - NFA President Daniel Roth
Jew - FINRA Chairman Richard Ketchum
Jew - NYSE Euronext President Duncan Niederauer
Jew - NASDAQ OMZ Group Chief Executive Robert Greifield
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>>136177181
MAKE
YOUR
OWN
MEME
FAGGOT
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>>136177181
well since you didn't reply I'm guessing you don't even know what the LTV is and logically can't know whether or not he would support communism from a theoretical standpoint
just goes to show you that most commies are in it for religious purposes, the justifications come afterwards. This supports the findings of many others who find that moral reasoning is an afterthought to what you think is "right".
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Why are most communists skinny, ugly, unkept, awkward, and feminine? Just an observation.
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>>136177440
idk. Here's one that matches your description, from /leftypol/ itself!
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>>136177368
seize the memes of production
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>>136177490
so, you don't believe in the LTV either? good at least you're not a Marxist theologist
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>>136177490
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Really makes you think
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>>136175969
best post.
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>>136177490
>>136177594
You imply we like that jew.
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>>136177395
Most commies are in it because they can't make anything of themselves and resort to submissive ideologies.
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>>136177368
>MAKE YOUR OWN MEME FAGGOT
>YOUR OWN MEME
>OWN MEME
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>>136177567
This post proves that commies are too retarded to create their own stuff and depend on others.
Gee.. i wonder why communism always fails..
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>>136177647
the memes are just that--memes. They don't carry any serious ideological content. There are many conflicting porky memes
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>>136177679
Jealous of my property, poorfag? Stay mad.
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>>136177742
I'm starting to wonder if these people are even commies, or if they just like the aesthetics. It's kind of like the Pirate flag, in a way.
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>>136177740
>implying pepe was created here
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>>136177165
thx mate i was going to post that. we have to agree with these commies doe.. the killing of jews is gona be great it will bring stability and equality finally without the jewish supremacy
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ATTENTION EVERYONE: COMMIES HAVE NOT YET RESPONDED TO THIS POST >>136176529
indicating they were utterly BTFO by it and decided to ignore it would be the best shill tactic. Memorize the LTV argument, not even the most hardcore commie zombie can claim that machines don't produce value
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLoSMIandg
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>>136175005
Communist societies always end up being extremely conservative for the average people. Sometimes I hope you get your wish.
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Dont you faggots have a whole board to suck each others dicks in?
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>>136177647
>You imply we like that jew.
I imply that porky likes what he is doing, also I don't give a shit about which fake sky god he believes in
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>>136178007
Make your own memes, useful idiot
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>>136175005
fuck you kike faggot die
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>>136178196
No I like it here
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>>136177914
The meme was you dunce.
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>>136178260
>muh memes
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>>136178213
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>>136178316
>thinking you would be allowed to watch anime in a communist society. Thinking anime would exist if Japan were communist.
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>>136178425
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>>136178352
>he btfo me i dunno what to say
k
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>>136178425
>>136178352
>>136178316
>>136178246
>>136178213
>still haven't replied
>BTFO
you shills are hilarious. How do you convince yourself that the LTV is true and that machines don't produce more value than they cost? You probably don't, and just ignore the implications of the LTV being dead--namely, that Marxism is indefensible, even from a theoretical standpoint.
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>>136178425
Thanks for showing us what is wrong with capitalism it is the same thing wrong with communism only in communism much worse which is fucking kikes
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>>136178260
>So new to the internetz
lurk moar
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>>136178620
>expecting replies from coward larpers
Leftypol autism, mate. Just mock those cucks, that's why i'm here.
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>be autistic spainfag
>make commie threads on /pol/ of all places
>eveyday for 8 months
>get laughed at, debunked and shit on
>every day
>for 8 months
>post the same fail arguments and knockoff cringe commie memes
>every. day.
>for. 8. months
congratulations, you've reached abatap status
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>>136178670
>it wont be true if i dont accept it
The meme orginitaed here you autsist.
>posting articles of rich kids having fun
Seems like someone is jelly and butthurt because he doesn't have the nice things other kids have.
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>>136178869
demoncrap
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>>136178620
I'm not getting into an argument with you because I'm not going to waste my time explaining something to you for you to turn around and insult me.
>>136178634
>Thanks for showing us what is wrong with capitalism
No problem
>which is fucking kikes
That's porky's distraction
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>>136179121
my flag is ironic mr snek
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>>136179241
What's the matter, you want that oil money too?
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>>136175005
Hell yeah.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giB4VDSmTZs
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
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Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
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>>136179036
>Uses Autist as an insult on 4chan
>Claims ownership of memes
>Hasn't made a single meme this thread
>Doesn't want to lurk moar
>Starts bitching at me
Ok
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>>136179516
thanks for the bump
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>>136175969
I still have prepared it in case ypu couldnt do it mate. No worries
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>Cappies will defend this
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>>136179380
I'm just making Porky memes
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>>136179241
>I'm not getting into an argument with you because I'm not going to waste my time explaining something to you for you to turn around and insult me.
Christ. You expect me to believe that's why you haven't responded?
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Capitalism is an unnatural system. The increased prevalence of mental illness can be attributed to this unnatural, bizarre capitalist world we've found ourselves in.
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>>136179932
>Capitalism is an economic system and an ideology based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.
pretty sure that's existed forever
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>>136179815
Remember wealth doesn't mean an easy life
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>>136179891
Its long and complicated and there is zero point getting into that now, in this thread. How about you google it, there have been many many arguments back and forth about that topic
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>>136179572
Nice straw man, retard. I said the meme originated here, which it did.
You autistic retards only steal memes and can't create a single one on your own, this everything here was and is the forge of memes.
>lurk moar
Maybe i'd take you seriously if you weren't some larping high school kid that found leftypol a year ago.
>>136179815
>memes
That's not a meme, that's slapping some retard pork charicature on articles of rich kids you are jealous of.
Did the mean bullies take your lunch money again? Is this why you are so butthurt about others having nice things?
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don't bump leftypol's shitty raid threads
sage goes in all fields
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>>136175005
I think we can safely say that all forms of Marxism were proven failure, provided injustice and genocide.
Therefore I propose a final solution to the Marxist problem:
We have to exterminate all believers of Marxism and communism. We have to make it legal to murder marxists on the streets and in their homes with any proof that they were Marxists. Then once done, we have to enact laws and a large FBI task force to hunt Marxists and kill them when spotted anywhere any time.
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>>136180068
>I can't even try to explain an argument upon which the theoretical validity of my entire ideology/religion rests
jesus christ
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>>136179891
>You expect me to believe that's why you haven't responded?
Do you really think I care much about what you believe in?
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>>136175005
is there a ruling class in communism, or is everyon eequal?
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>>136179815
>B-But the capitalist hierarchy is only natural. This is how humans evolved. Some people are rich while all the hardworkers toil in misery. It's only natural
>>136179995
Not exactly because before the industrial revolution means of production were relatively simple and could be acquired easily.
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>>136180378
Do you really think I care much about what you think?
lmao you've lost the argument, you admit you are incapable of rebutting me
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>>136180449
Then explain why even animals also have some hirachical structures with winners and losern which is NOT evenly distributed if this isn't natural.
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>>136180438
yes
Members of the communist party, some party officials, some appointed CEOs/directors at companies/schools/institutions.
Their competition is killed or destroyed.
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>>136180449
https://youtu.be/SWF4vB0Ci_0?t=1m41s
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>>136180518
>lmao you've lost the argument
I haven't made an argument.
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>>136180995
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>>136180995
>I haven't made an argument.
Is that because you don't have any?
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fuck commies. :)
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>>136181347
it's because he's "hiding" his argument because he's afraid I won't be nice to him :^(
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>>136181440
Awww, I thought he didn't care what you thought.
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>>136180449
Yup they really believe that, they also think they are the ubermensch who will rule others.
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>>136179509
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>>136181347
>Is that because you don't have any?
It's not worth my time. I'm making and posting porky memes.
I answer to posts that are simple and don't take too much effort to answer.
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>>136181979
Lol
>>136181796
They really are greedy, holding onto a failed system just for the chance to rule over others.
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M-moar
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>>136182255
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>>136182255
>It's not worth my time.
You're a commie, you have all the time in the world to do nothing but discuss your intellectual drivel.
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>>136175005
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>>136182440
They never will rule over anyone, if they still had a chance at that they wouldn't be posting on /pol/, they'd be hanging out with rich kids of instagram choking on porky's cock.
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>>136182440
I think Karl Marx is turning in his grave right now.
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>>136182940
Why do they hold onto such delusions?
>>136183171
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>>136182718
>you have all the time in the world to do nothing but discuss your intellectual drivel.
I'm making porky memes, that takes time, explaining the dynamics of capitalism and communism to you does not have a good effort:return ratio, especially considering that you've already decided that what I'd explain to you is "drivel" before I've made any argument
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>>136183461
>next meme stolen
At least do the paint job right you autistic faggot.
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"Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage."
Too bad you were founded on a US Backed Bank Revolution in Red Russia.....20 million was the price paid to Lenin......
Your logo is basically a front for McDonald's...and the incorporation that followed your red reversal of the facts.....or was it the yid that is making the efforts, posting as a German....
LOL
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>>136183461
>Why do they hold onto such delusions?
I wish I'd know, people believe in some crazy shit
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>>136183639
>I'm making porky memes, that takes time,
So taking news articles you sniped and putting a caricature from Soviet propaganda in front of is worth your time? Real efficient use of capital.
>especially considering that you've already decided that what I'd explain to you is "drivel" before I've made any argument
Careful, that marxist arrogance and contempt is coming out. That might drive away the proletariat.
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>>136184438
>So taking news articles you sniped and putting a caricature from Soviet propaganda in front of is worth your time? Real efficient use of capital.
Definitely more efficient than arguing with you about the complex issues of modern economics.
>Careful, that marxist arrogance and contempt is coming out. That might drive away the proletariat.
You already decided what I'd say is going to be crap, me being aware of that isn't arrogance.
What's more arrogant is that I'm saying getting into the verbal fight you want is not worth my time.
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>>136183827
whiter than /pol/ as usual
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>>136184982
>Definitely more efficient than arguing with you about the complex issues of modern economics.
That arrogance is showing again. Do you really understand those issues or do you just explain it away with the writings of a man that lived a century ago and say a system that has been tried multiple times, and failed, is the only solution for those complex issues?
>You already decided what I'd say is going to be crap, me being aware of that isn't arrogance.
Because these threads have been on the board for the past 8 months and no argument, or memes for that manner, are any good. Continuing to spam your uncreative content is just poor form on your part.
>What's more arrogant is that I'm saying getting into the verbal fight you want is not worth my time.
What is even more arrogant is saying you don't care what others think, yet believe spamming this board with your shitty memes is going to do any good. Not only does that make you arrogant, but stupid as well.
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>>136175428
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>>136185698
>>136185796
Saved, here's porky OC as a thank you
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>>136175005
fuck commies and fuck your faggot shit
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sage these jew threads pls
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>>136185276
Such are spoiled children of middle class families larping as commies.
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>>136186716
you know Bakunin was a communist too right?
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>>136186820
>you know Bakunin was a communist too right?
Yes. Which is why this maymay is so powerful. It's not an ebil nahtzee saying Communism == Judaism. Its the Communists themselves!
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>>136186915
Yeah, but Bakunin was making an argument AGAINST Marx. He was extremely antisemitic. So was Proudhon
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>>136186993
>antisemitic
>communist
pick only one
>inb4 but muh nazbol!
bolsheviks were kikes and dugin is a satanist jew.
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>>136183461
Hitler wouldn't really mind that gay stuff.
He was into it with Rohm before he had him executed
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Death is a preferable alternative to Communism!
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>>136186820
>collective anarchism is now communism
What did you huff today?
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>>136187130
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>>136187407
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>>136187511
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>>136175005
>>136175005
go rationalize your ideology of laziness and starvation elsewhere you pathetic white nigger
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>>136188771
>laziness
"He who does not work shall not eat"- Vladimir Lenin
>starvation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3WH79my90s
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>>136175163
But america and all other western countries aren't corrupt? kk m7, only because the public doesn't know about it... or too dumb watch any other type of news than cnn
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Thoughts on accelerationism? People seem to be adapting to capitalism rather than turning against it.
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."
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>>136187104
>>136187306
>I make shit up and use them as arguments
never change pol
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Life In The Third Reich
https://youtu.be/IWeGe5Nq4M0
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>>136180438
The skilled labourers will excel at being the "ruling class" ideally. To each according to his own ability, to each according to his need.
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fuck off commies
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>>136191061
Socialism is polling higher than ever before in the US. People are catching on that they'll never be the 0.1% they are told they have to be.
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>>136191445
right, so people are not equal under communism
I thought that was the selling point
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>>136191610
Its more like equal chance. Like no one gets to exploit capital to make a living everyone gets paid accordingly to the work they do.
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>>136191739
but there is a ruling class who tels everyone else wht to do?
so no equality?
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>>136191542
Are people naming socialism and marxism as the answer to the class gap though? There seems to be a lot of confusion still about the direction to go
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>>136175005
I'd like to take a helicopter ride with you.
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>>136191826
No equality. That's the point. Equality is offensive to black people
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>>136191826
The plan is that eventually the ruling class gets stifled out but in the meanwhile the most skilled people in an ideal world would get the job.
People have different levels of ability which naturally would lead to inequality. People can still become rich if they wanted to.
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>>136191610
I think wealth should be distributed the way 92% of Americans want. Makes me a Communist nowadays
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>>136175005
Explain why imperialism is bad.
The Soviets were massive SJWs who undermined white empires by giving niggers AK-47s.
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>>136192273
>The plan is that eventually the ruling class gets stifled out but in the meanwhile the most skilled people in an ideal world would get the job.
please explain how other people own what others earn
so the equality thing is just bullshit for the plebs to support you?
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>>136191846
>Are people naming socialism and marxism as the answer to the class gap though?
Nope, most people are unaware that class warfare is real and they are losing. They just don't want to live in a miserable society where everyone is trying to maximize profits regardless of the cost.
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>>136192556
Exploitation means using things that are available in order to benefit from it. It is usually used in a bad sense, although it can be used in a good sense as well.
If a person exploits a situation it means that they realize that they can use the situation to do something which will be good for them. Very often this also means that it will be bad for other people.
People, especially proletariat can be exploited. This means that someone else uses the people's knowledge or skills in order to make them do something for them. Socialists (or communists) often talked about the "exploitation of the masses" when they were saying that Capitalism was bad. They meant that a few rich people were using all the working people to do hard work for them so that they themselves could become rich.
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Feels good to be a bourgeois business owner.
How do commies feel knowing that all their revolution larping isn't gonna lead to anything in their lifetime, and that porkies like myself are gonna retire comfortably while they make my coffee?
Must feel bad, knowing they're gonna be bitches to job-makers like myself for the foreseeable future~
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Sage this blatant kikery also add an image so the obvious slide slides its self to the archive
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>>136193187
I'm just asking if there is still a ruling class after the revolution
the answer seems to be yes
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Heres all the food those commies like to mention.
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>>136193377
Yes. But what exactly do you mean by ruling class? Just because we install a different government doesn't mean everything is going to be perfect without needing to change anything.
The ruling class might not be as rich but they might have power
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>>136193333
>Not drinking champagne
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This triggers the eternal kike...i mean communist
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>>136192518
Commies will ignore this post.
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>>136193575
Its a good joke. Are commies not allowed to laugh at what happened to the soviets?
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>>136192518
>>136193644
imperialism is fine
we hate imperialism when it's done by capitalists
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>>136193333
>Not burning your car for fun
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>>136193547
>Not fellating me for a tip
How's it feel, tankie?
To be a mmmmmmBITCH?
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>>136193543
so your classless society will have a ruling class?
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>>136193644
The only problem would be how you exploit the people living in your territories. The whole thing about communism is the elimination of capital. You could have an imperialist communist nation in theory as long as what you are doing to what you conquer isn't exploiting them.
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>>136193663
You mean every communist country ever?
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>>136193817
There will always be classes, some work harder than others. Its about making it harder to make money that you don't honestly earn but there will still be people who earn a lot more than others.
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Why is this allowed on Politically Incorrect? No one gives a shit if you are a Communist. No one will become Communist because of these threads. Lefty/pol/ needs to leave, we already have T_D libertarians and AnCaps here preaching about freedom, fuck off.
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>>136193954
Sure? Am I supposed to feel saddened that they failed? Should I just throw my hands up and forget about Marx?
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>>136193848
>as long as what you are doing to what you conquer isn't exploiting them
Why should we give a shit about niggers on the other side of the globe?
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>>136194056
Derg
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>>136194056
That's what he's insinuating, yes.
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>>136193999
so your class revolution results in a classist system?
who decides who the new ruling class is?
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>>136193804
>Says he is a successful business owner
>Spends his life begging guys to suck his cock on /pol/
Phew lad
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>>136194114
I wonder if this is what people like you said when we first attacked Iraq.
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>>136193804
>>136194204
Comrades, this is not the place for sectarianism!
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>>136194204
All you have been doing is putting the in un offensive version of the merchant on daily mail articles about rich people.
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>>136194318
>reading comprehension
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>>136194268
We were too egalitarian too Iraq. We should have genocided many of them and extracted oil and other resources by force, without paying them for it.
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>>136194165
Like I said ideally the ruling class would ideally be the people who can do the job the best. The problem we have with Marxism is that we don't have a great system that implements it into actual party politics. We are at a stage were we have to invent something new
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>>136192518
If your "empire" can be undermined by few guns it is not worth keeping.
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>>136175005
Marx was a idiot. Try to look at his work with a realistic viewpoint instead of viewing it like a bible and you'll know.
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>>136194406
I wish we did. Then the east would finally destroy America once and for all
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>>136194443
It was undermined because of liberal attitudes outlawing more brutal subjugation tactics.
Also, it wasn't just guns, the Soviets supplied the niggers with vehicles, and tons of other supplies.
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>>136175005
So who rules the worker class? Don't tell me it's a leader or junta (like an executive board, with a chairman, like Mao!)
Dang it, you're just making a smaller ruling class of Jewish elites. This isn't REAL communism!!!!!111oneone
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>>136194429
is it not that you want the proles to revolt and install YOU as the new ruling class, where you will live high on the hog eating caviar whilst the proles starve, like every other communist revolution?
why is it going to be ok this time, are you the only unbiased, uncorruptible, group?
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>>136194460
I don't know though. He gives a good critic of capitalism. Are you saying that capitalism isn't flawed after all?
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>>136194056
Yes.
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>>136194499
Doubtful. We could just nuke the sandnigs if they became too big a threat.
Also, if we had ultra-nationalist immigration laws, the sandnigs wouldn't be able to enter our nations to do harm.
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>>136194394
It wasn't just dailymail, but yup that's pretty much what I've been doing thread.
Also on /pol/ le merchant is less offensive than porky.
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>>136194673
>Are you saying that capitalism isn't flawed after all?
Humans are flawed. Capitalism is the best system for dealing with those flaws.
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>>136194204
>y-you don't have a life!
I'm sorry that only one of us put in the work to create and manage a business instead of screeching for handouts.
Just remember to thank me for visiting your establishment when you give me my coffee, you might get a tip!
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>>136194646
You are right, thats why we need a new system where that wouldn't happen. Marxism is just a philosophy, it doesn't say how to go about bringing it to the real world.
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>>136194056
> it doesnt matter that everytime my faggot marxist shit gets tried it fails. Ill just keep trying.
Please go back to leftypol.
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>>136194762
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>>136194816
I don't see anything wrong with that. Why should I believe some rag tag group of Russians one hundred years ago was capable of executing it perfectly?
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>>136194546
True, but you can`t just wage total war on rebelling population if you need them to keep working in the fields and mines.
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>>136194762
Anyways I'm signing off, good luck comrades keep up the good fight.
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>>136193547
>Hebrew mutterings
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i fuck pic related every saturday for 50 bucks,what will i fuck in a communist country? an empty bag of bread? fuck off murderer commie scum
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>>136194791
How would you explain the class gap then? If it was a reasonable gap then fine that wouldn't be so bad but the way it is now doesn't seem like capitalism is going in the right direction.
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>>136194972
Or we could just turn it into lebensraum and export our own workers to extract the resources.
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>>136194738
Or we could nuke ourselves and the sandnigs wouldn't be able to enter our nations to do harm.
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>>136175262
By definition communism should spring up and save the day from a failed capitalist state. So why isn't Venezuela a paradise yet?
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>>136195000
Your country will become dominated by Islam and you'll never get your red revolution. Thank your fellow leftists.
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>>136195164
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>>136175005
Now it changed to germany, either way, fuck communism.
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>>136195118
Nah, Empires were too multicultural for that, just look at what the outcry about civil rights in 60`s did to America`s morale.
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>>136195028
does your mother know about this?....post moar also.
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>>136195159
We should just nuke LA, San Fransisco, Seattle, and Portland.
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>>136195075
Cos we're not living in ancap free market conditions, we're in a socialist system today.
Sauce;
>Department of agricultural
>Department of education
>Department of Treasury
>Gubberment influenced but (((independent))) central bank owning all production via currency issuance
Nigga, your philosophy is failed and you're also pointing that out. Frame your argument properly, I'll do it for now ackshully. What you're trying to say is;
>Give me genocide and starvation
The means of production.. is already owned by the state. Already owned by the state.
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>>136195327
>outcry about civil rights in 60`s
You mean by the large portion of nigs/spics we let in and Marxist agitators?
I'm saying keep the nigs trapped in their own shitholes and exploit them there. They should not be allowed on white soil.
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>>136195364
But not New York? I didn't know you guys were so fond of Jews.
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>>136175409
This is a nice little one. saved nd thanks
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The communist is a delusional sub human who can not be negotiated with or rationalized.
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>>136195551
New York would still be useful as a financial center, but I think the Jews there should be stripped of their shekels and executed.
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>>136195312
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>>136175569
I do think showtrials and death for big tax dodging leaders like them would be good
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>>136195697
thicc
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>>136195635
so have he negroes, muslims, and indians do that stuff instead?
save the trouble and just nuke everything.
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>>136176345
Shut it Jew. Humans are not equal. Humans shouldn't be equal
if you knew more than 10 people you'd h ave realised how some of them are utter scum, get out more
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>>136176641
Fascists don't support neo-lib capitalism either, you guys are fucking retards
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>>136195846
No, they would be deported to the third-world or killed.
We'd start a massive white breeding program, with an emphasis on eugenics and CRISPR technology to replace the shitskin laborers.
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>>136195361
you tried to invade us and got rekt by our women and their boiling oil,have some moar race mixing beta cuck faggot nigger
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>>136196065
>eugenics
>white
pick one
shouldn'ta killed those jews and asians man
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>>136187161
that can be arranged comrade
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>>136195697
>Leaving a grey prisonesque wasteland for freedom, prosperity and abundance of food
I don't understand, is this meant to demonize capitalism or not?
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>>136196146
Tits plix
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>>136175569
Here's what happens: you kill a couple billionaires. The rest immediately flee to some other country. Your economy crashes. Game over.
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>>136196296
The Jews are too sneaky to be trusted, obviously.
Some nationalist-leaning Japs should be allowed to stay, as they are decent allies and have similar views. The Chinks however are less reliable, and more ugly, and are too corrupted by Maoism and hate for round-eye. (see: Chinese behavior in Canada).
Also, your kidding yourself if you think whites can't handle things on their own. Pic related, Germano-Murrican engineering.
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>>136196611
If they can't even preserve their own race how can they do anything?
>>136196554
Stop. I can only get so erect.
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>>136195164
Cause it's not real socialism
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>>136176026
>>136175612
Actually, it's objective fact that the only thing "Porky" fears is NatSocs. They love you idiots, you're the most easily bamboozled useful idiots on the planet.
>hahaha don't read Bakunin goy, just build a gigantic socialist state with a giant central bank, the proletariat will run it, because people get to run banks with prole skills, and they stay proles forever when they control a nation's money supply. Listen to the alcoholic unemployed Jew goy, you'll definitely get fully automated luxury communism and not a screaming death in a Finnish motti having your teeth pulled out of your mouth by actual working class people!
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>>136196554
Also, if you shared all of the billionaires' wealth equally with every person on Earth, everybody would get $3,000.
There are too many sub-90 IQ shitskins for global egalitarianism to work right. That's why we should focus on getting/keeping gibs for white countries only.
see vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
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>>136196736
>If they can't even preserve their own race how can they do anything?
They can, they're just hindered by your ideology and your ideology's retarded cousins.
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>>136196957
>don't read Bakunin
but I did read Bakunin.
>giant central bank
Hahaha are you fucking serious? You actually believe this? Communists hate banks, actually that's one of the main criticisms of Capitalism.
>actual working class people
not this meme again
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>>136196461
she has no tits man,this aint /b/ btw
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>>136197036
I honestly don't give a fuck. Even if you were to kill all the niggers, muslims, jews whatever (go right ahead) Communism would still happen and be inevitable in whatever white ethnostate you try to design.
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>>136197167
>You actually believe this? Communists hate banks, actually that's one of the main criticisms of Capitalism.
And yet, it happened. What you claim is immaterial, because your ideology doesn't exist. The transitionary Socialist state always ends up as a de-facto oligarchy run either by kikes or inept madmen, the latter of which is actually preferable.
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>>136197294
If you like Bakunin so much and think he's gonna protect you from "da j00s" or whatever, then why not try his version of Communism then?
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>>136197282
That's the spirit! Now go full Nazbol!
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>>136197426
>/pol/ likes NazBol now
what timeline did I jump into?
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>>136197552
Lurk moar, retard.
Bannon is Nazbol.
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>>136197711
Yeah and I thought you hated Bannon
Richard Spencer is also NazBol, don't you guys hate him too?
Then again, the census here changes every 4 years or so
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>>136197552
They are still hitlerites, unfortunately.
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>>136197411
Whites are individualistic to a degree that other races are not. We still prefer having our own property and the ability to obtain capital; but the protection of the NatSoc ethnostate policies would curb the negative effects of capitalism.
tl;dr: We don't want to live in commieblocks like tankies want, or be reduced to roaming street gangs like anarkiddies want.
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>>136198056
This post is nothing but blanket statement assumptions and implications.
There wasn't even any logic that led to the conclusions you made
How am I supposed to respond to this?
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>>136197943
>I thought you hated Bannon
Nobody ever said this. Bannon is /ourguy/ lurk moar.
Spencer is most likely a plant and tries to claim leadership of the new-WN movement, even though nobody gave him that title but himself and leftlib media.
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>>136198406
Maybe research NatSoc?
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>>136198461
Fascism does nothing to curb Capitalism other than force workers to accept whatever amounts of grain they're fed by targeting their emotional weaknesses.
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>>136194802
as usual, no real answer
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>>136198800
I think you're misunderstanding the definition of NatSoc and fascism.
We NatSocs would basically have an economy like Sweden's, except nationalist and less degenerate. Remind me of Sweden's HDI again.
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>>136176529
It wouldn't surprise me if that image was your entire insight of the subject.
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>>136198945
Except Sweden actually has powerful Labor Unions. Italy simply did not and Nazi Germany outright banned them.
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>>136176529
Saved.
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>>136199151
That would be a great reform then. NatSoc has evolved. The main reason Hitler attacked labor unions back then was because they were largely subverted by Bolshevism and internationalism.
We're all for labor unions as long as they're nationalist. Just look at the Rust Belt unions that voted for Trump. Also, look at the policies of the Traditionalist Workers Party (USA).
The modern left, on the other hand, is chimping-out in the streets demanding more immigrants, and seem more concerned about Tumblr ideology.
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>>136176529
>>136199259
Machines simply add value to the labor the worker produces. That's like saying a till is a replacement for labor.
If you're in a sausage factory, and you're making two sausages a minute, then a machine is added that allows you to make 4 sausages per minute, all it does is decrease the socially necessary labor time to produce the commodity
Old, stale ass argument
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>>136199557
>as long as they're nationalist.
got it. so they basically have to pledge allegiance to the bourgeoisie in order to become acceptable. this arbitrary measurement of "nationalism" will definitely not be abused by the capitalist to mean "anything I don't like" or anything.
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>>136199646
If labor theory of value is real, then why is this piece of cardboard with a horsey on it worth 7 dollars?
Value is determined by the consumer.
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