>natural >safe >non addictive >medicinal >obsoletes

>>136158527
I agree that it should be legal but
>>safe
>>non addictive
Come on now

>>136158527
>>obsoletes most painkillers

Funny, because I smoke daily and it only increases pain for me. Like, little aches and pains in my hands and feet become throbbing annoyances. I smoked once when I had a toothache and nearly passed out from how agonizing it made the pain.

Never actually met anyone who smokes weed for pain management. Where did this meme begin?

>>136158527
>>natural
>>safe
>>medicinal
>>obsoletes most painkillers
>>can even cure certain diseases
>>plethora of industrial uses
Sure.

>>schedule 1 controlled substance
Bullshit.

>>non addictive
Isn't it though? And doesn't it cause IQ problems?

>>136158527

south park covered it well... ie your supposed to do something with your time, and if you smoke all the time and grow older you realize you're worthless with no skills.

>>136158527
>smokes weed
>looks like a total faggot
every single time

>>136158915
Thats funny because i can get codeine and tramadol but weed works best imo

I smoke daily. It is without a doubt addictive. I have recently been looking for a job and unable to smoke due to drug tests for the jobs. The first week was hell, with constant nausea and headaches. Marijuana is, without any doubts, addictive. Maybe not as bad as cigarettes or meth or something.

Framing it as something good, in my honest opinion, is incorrect. Weed is a drug still, a drug that can harm, and many people cannot handle using it responsibly. I would like to see it remain illegal but become something easily accessible for those who can prove they need it or may handle is properly without becoming degenerate swine. And it definitely should not under any circumstances be consumed by children or people without stable income/carrers.

>>136158934
Yeah its schedule 1 LOL thats the only reson it belongs on pol

>>136158527

>For total degenerates with no future

>>136159038
imo 4chan wastes more time than weed because at least you enjoy yourself on weed

>>136158915
I do. It does work. Eat shit, pharma-jew.

>>136158915
I've never known anyone who smoked MJ then had more pain. In Massachusetts, I know many people who smoke or consume for pain, and I myself use a pot-laced oil for pain in my hands, of headaches.

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>>136158527
Do you know what else is "natural"?
Heroin
Cyanide
Strychnine
Botulinus toxin
Puffer fish venom
Ebola
...and much more.

>>136159255

What kind of pain are you dealing with?

Like I'm not totally opaque to the idea that it works for some people, I have just literally never met one.

>>136159334
Yeah its addictive but you can still view it net positive

is there some pill form or edible focused on pain relief that has some of whatever psychoactive parts removed?

>>136159334
this

>>136158934
It's a schedule 1 narcotic here fucker
Look it up, you're on the information superhighway, how hard is it?

Are bongs for dick sucking fags?

>>136158915
I use it for my back pain an it works.

>>136159334
>I smoke daily. It is without a doubt addictive.

This.

However (for me) it is extremely easy to break the addiction as compared to other drugs. Smoking cigs and drinking booze were much harder for me to kick than weed. I can stop smoking weed for weeks or months at a time with no trouble, it just sucks for the first few days due to cravings.

I also always eventually go back to smoking weed because I know that I can deal with it. I don't smoke cigs or drink more than a couple beers a week now because I know I'll slip right back into my addiction if I do.

As George Carlin said, "Some things don't leave you alone. Pot does, and thank God for that."

>>136159506
CBD, which is the pain relieving aspect of pot, can be found in concentrated form. The THC is the psychoactive element in pot.

>>136159415
please legalize ebola chan

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>>136158527
>try out weed
>feel even more depressed than before

>>136158527
anyone who uses marijauna at this current time is a disgusting degenerate and must be purged from society

>>136158718
>it is non-addictive just like eating chocolate, masturbating and other psychologically addictive vices. it's not physically addictive like nicotine.
understand the difference
>it is safe, alcohol is more dangerous than most illegal drugs but nobody cares cause retarded culture
jew juice needs to be banned

>>136159672
Yeah it's for people who subconsciously want to suck dicks. That goes for smokers in general.

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>>136158527
>non addictive
Anything that can emulate happiness can be addictive,trust me


>>136158915
>smoking while having a bad tooth
You deserve it

>>136159848
Indica will put you down. I remember this, as Indica will put you in da couch.

Sativa is a pick-me-up, a working high. It will help you.

>>136158527
why does he look liek that?

until I see a businessman in a suit take a bong rip before work I will not be convinced.

>>136158527
If something makes you feel good without you doing anything to deserve it, it's bad for you. I don't support banning them, since government should stay out of peoples' business, but it's still degenerate.

>>136158718
ignorant

>>136159918
When was it ever ok to smoke weed?

>>136159918
Fuck off

>>136159970
>You deserve it

:(

>>136159970
This

It all works through dopamine

>>136158527
victimless cannabis related crimes should be pardoned I.E cultivation, selling, etc, if they caused injury or harm or any other kind of distress to another person then no, they should remain in prison.

>>136159361
yeah find me a people with all their lifestyle revolving around around shitposting on 4chan, how fun it is and that they don't need to gain any skills, because they found sacred knowledge of the nature that will solve all their problems and then we would talk

>>136159918
Pretty much.

>>136158718
coffee is addictive and it's legal.

how many people do you know that simply "can't function" without their coffee... that is addiction. and most long term drinkers will suffer withdrawal, another sign of addiction. might no be the most potent drug ever but still, double standards.

>>136160375

no downsides of caffeine since it stimulates same nicotinic receptors as nicotine

>natural

So is diarhea.

>safe

Except the bit about making you fat and lazy.

>non addictive

Funny dat, because I see a lot of people making weed a lifestyle.

>medicinal

Literally cures every malady in the history of mankind.

>obsoletes most painkillers

How to feel pain when engaged in couch lock day after day after day?

>can even cure certain diseases

It's like Jesus, but w/out the sandals.

>plethora of industrial uses

We could easily get to Mars like tomorrow if the Man would legalize it.

>schedule 1 controlled substance

A drug that results in murders, child neglect, obesity and social malaise should be a Schedule 1 drug. Where the problem lies is in sentencing: 1st offense, one year in jail, 2nd offense, two years in jail, 3rd offense, three years in jail...and so on and so forth.

There's always going to be a portion of society that is willing to piss away the opportunities we have in life for simple shit...like weed. We must cull these lazy fucks in order to build a better society.

>>136160201
I once did worse
>get justice tooth removed
>pain for days
>smoke a joint
>nearly get a jaw infection
Supposedly one of the worst pains know to man (besides cluster headache)

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>>136160375

Fuck off no weed fags.

>>136160375
>how many people do you know that simply "can't function" without their coffee
Obviously coffee is addictive. I get a horrible headache if I don't drink it for 16+ hours.

>>136158915

Were you smoking sativa or indica? You dont know wtf you were smoking? Unknown smoke, like your post.

>>136159506

>Lets manipulate something natural into more engineered shit.

FFS, leave it as a plant. Poppies to heroine was a bad idea. Leaves to cocaine was a bad idea. Why the fuck are we going to take a plant that is impossible to overdose smoking, and turn it into extreme concentrate edibles for people to overdose on?

Tribes have been chewing leaves for generations, because they didnt turn that shit into cocaine.

OPs pic is a douche bag, who happens to smoke. If you removed the pot, you still have a douche bag.

>>136158527
yes, merryjohanna should be legal. but I don't see what's so great about smoking it. doesn't give me anything other than being lethargic and wasting the whole day with eating and sleeping.

>>136160375

Having a coffee addiction isn't very harmful.

>>136160468
>jaw infection

j-jesus christ

>>136158527
what a wannabe pothead. can't even take a hit like a man

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>>136158934
6 years cassually smoking, with everyday periods, and my IQ never has been so high.

If it caused a decrease, kind of sucks, but I don´t have any signal of it been true.

>>136160638
>>136160438


weed addiction isn't very harmful either. especially if you opt for a healthy method of consumption, edibles and vaporising negate most of the immediate negative health aspects of smoking. obviously inhaling smoke isn't good.

>>136160556
>Were you smoking sativa or indica?

What does it matter? I have never smoked any weed that killed my pain. What are you going to suggest to me here, that I have somehow been magically only smoking one strain my entire life and if only I tried the other, I'd be fine? lol

>>136160950
>weed addiction isn't very harmful either.

It's way more harmful than a coffee addiction.

>>136158527
But it is addictive. Try taking the pot from a stoner for a week and you'll see them sweating, sobbing, aching, unable to function at all.
Weed isn't addictive is a meme, I've had many stoner friends and they all were a mess when they couldn't get hold of their dealer
It's just as addictive if not more than caffeine, porn, masturbation, sugar.
Muh alcohol though

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>>136158915

>>136160606
I think you need to have certain deficits that the drug can fill for you to get everything out of it. For example I have a relative who said percocet just made him sleepy and another relative that said it didn't really kill his pain. However when I was hospitalized and given morphine I felt that it rescued me from the pits of hell. Because I have the deficit of pain from my disease, opiates make me feel like I am not sick at all. That is very valuable, and puts me at risk to become a junkie. It's the same thing with pot except there are different deficits that it fills.

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>>136161030
Do you drink coffe without smoking tobaco?

>>136161292

I don't smoke tobacco anymore but I still drink coffee. I have a cup with me right now. Why?

>>136160536

Exactly, double standards, being addicted to one substance is fine because it's socially accepted but being addicted to another is not. let's not forget most of the western world is dependant on something arguably far worse than caffeine and cannabis... sugar, not a drug but the long term side effects of over consumption are more serious than both weed and coffee combined. the takeaway should be moderation is key when it comes to all of lifes pleasures, whether it's weed, coffee, sugar, whatever, consumption in moderation is key.

>>136158527
Anything can be addictive with enough dopamine

For many people on this board, one common addiction is porn

>>136158718
I've smoked a few times a year at reunions/4rth of july for the past 4 years and never got "addicted."

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>>136161030

In what way is it way more harmful if you remove smoke from the equation?

>>136158934
no.. but lots of stupid people flock to it.. and make it look bad.. you know the type

>walks up to you giggling
>hheeeeyyy mmaaannn you got a light??

this kind of retard..

its probably not healthy for developing minds to be smoking it but once youre over 21 i say its perfectly fine

in moderation ofcourse

and about it being addictive i smoked it from about 2008-2013 havent touched it since.. and i havent had a single craving

i think people with addictive personalities might latch onto it.. but they would latch onto something worse if they didnt have weed..

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>>136158527

More jewish pro-weed lies.

>Smoke weed goy, it's basically like eating a nice salad and it makes you feel good. If it makes you feel good, how can it be bad?

>>136161395
That's like having toast without jam, bro.

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>>136161395
I don´t find any pleasure in coffee if it´s not for the cig.
I kind of implied, weed isn´t worse than coffee+tobacco.

>>136158527
why do all pot heads look like theyre about to kneel over and die? myself included??

>>136161430
Exactly. Psychological addiction isn't given the respect it deserves. Just replace weed with "world of warcraft" and you can say all the same things. The problem exists on both ends, smokers think the lack of physical addiction is enough so they can "quit whenever they want." Then you have non smokers who say it is physically addictive because they see how people react when they try to quit.

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>>136161045
>Try taking the pot from a stoner for a week and you'll see them sweating, sobbing, aching, unable to function at all.

pretty much me after not smoking for several days. it's really the heavy sweating and random depressive episodes that are the worst. they subside after a few days though. but i'm a NEET heavy smoker of almost 5 years, not having gone more than a week without bud. if you want to smoke the herbal jew go ahead but don't be retarded like me and go overboard to where you can't even think properly without a bowl.

>>136158915
Your pain is probably nerve related. Marijuana is analgesic so muscular/soft tissue pain is controlled by it. I would imagine nerve pain is amplified.

Those very familiar with Cannabis or long time stoners, whats the ideal frequency to smoke per week?

I smoked everyday (under 0.5 grams) for 1 year but i found that the demotivational/lazyness effect was too much or me.

>>136161824
Lol what. I can run miles at a brisk pace and do pull ups with ease. I look like a golden God and I could probably fuck your sister.

>>136161879
1

>>136161879

find a better strain. did you smoke the same strain all year? I find indica's have the ability to make me a little depressed, mainly because i'm sleepy and tired and feel like an unproductive piece of shit, whereas a nice sativa, energetic, euphoria, head high, get shit done.

>>136161988
you can still do that and look like death.....

>>136158915
IDK about pain management, but I would imagine being stoned all the time would make getting things done to be difficult.

I found weed to be kind of a pain in the ass, took too much effort to stay focused on things. Just started free-associating and going off on tangents all the time. IDK how one can be productive and be a stoner, but some people manage.

>>136158718
>Implying it can't be safe
Subjective. It depends on how one ingest it. The safest way is to eat the stuff through a process of moving all the essential and fun stuff to an oil/fat. Then you cook with it or eat is as is.

>Implying its not addictive.
You have to be a little bitch to think its addictive.

>>136158915
Hey pharma shill. It means your teeth are shit.

>>136159334
>I can't quit.
>Its too addictive.
It is not fucking hard to give up. I went cold turkey the day after I said I was going to quit from being a daily smoker. Either you are a fag that doesn't have anything better to do or some bitch boy.

>>136158527
>gay
>stupid
>lame
>bogus
>muh dick
>pee on my ass

> I literally just called the cops on some fuck who was smoking weed in his car next to me
> tfw see him get pulled over down the street

Fucker was veering in and out of his lane. Smoking weed is degeneracy, plain and simple. It destroys your motivation and is not innoccusous. I'm embarassed that I used to advocate for its legalization - it provides a great pretext to arrest undesirables.

>>136161879
Once/twice a week

They can put whatever laws they want on pot. I will always smoke, grow, and enjoy this God given plant for the rest of my days. The US government has no say on something so deeply ingrained in human history.

>>136158527
>safe
>non addictive
>obsoletes most painkillers
>can cure diseases
i am a daily smoker of the sweet herb, but people need to stop spreading this kind of bullshit, it just makes you sound retarded
i had an abcessed wisdom tooth a year ago, weed made no difference to the pain, even codeine did very little. you know what killed the pain? alcohol, and finally getting the fucker removed.
also, if i don't smoke weed i get a day or two of sleepless sweaty nights and no appetite. not addictive my arse.
i still love the stuff though. it's the perfect unwinder after a hard day's gardening.

>>136159506
Yes, you can even buy it online legally. I just recently purchased some cbd oil myself.

https://www.bluebird-botanicals.com/concentrated-hemp-extracts/

>>136160556
That's a fucking retarded comparison. Maybe the person doesn't want to ingest burning fucking plant material? Maybe they want to be able to regulate dosage in exact amounts. Maybe sublingual application is better than inhaling smoke?

>>136161045
I've gone almost 3 weeks without any.

>sweating, sobbing, aching, unable to function at all.

Yeah didn't get any of that. Maybe a bit more trouble sleeping for a day or two, but that's part of why I use it to begin with. And I've had friends who will go through 2 grams a day and be fine if they suddenly stop smoking. Anecdote v anecdote.

And just for reference, ANYTHING can be psychologically addictive, fucking anything. Porn, masturbation, eating, drinking, gambling, fast women, watching tv, etc. FUCKING ANYTHING.

>>136161879
never more than 4 days a week...it keeps your tolerance lower....unless for actual pain...every 2-4 hours for pain....

>>136162181
>It destroys your motivation and is not innoccusous

this is a broad generalisation and very much dependant on the person who is smoking it. if they are lazy by default, weed will amplify that. if they are generally motivated, weed will amplify that. it's a common misconception that weed destroys motivation, in may instances it can create motivation, depending on the strain.

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>>136161879
Now I get weed 1 g or 2g when the ocasion comes handy (once in 2 weeks) and smoke some days till I finish it.

I don´t take acount of how much while I have it, but when it is over I'm fine.

This is me, for other people it is terrible managging.

>>136161582

weed makes you a lazy piece of shit if you smoke too much of it.

it's also a lot more expensive, makes certain aspects of life difficult (like passing a drug test for a job), incurs a certain social cost (many people do not like people who smoke weed), smells bad, etc. oh and it's fucking illegal most places, so that's a huge bummer.

plenty of people (myself included) endure irritating long-term effects such as depression, depersonalization, introversion, etc. for people who are already depressed or crazy, weed can multiply these feelings. it's pretty similar to being an alcoholic, though not as extreme.

weed isn't a magic happy drug, it's pretty ruinous if you let it take the wheel. coffee just makes you pee a lot.

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>>136161879
Every night 3 hours before bed. When the world sleeps, and my work is done, I light up.

Not safe nor non-addictive.
Stop glorifying drug use, and stop supporting illegal businesses.
But government stay out of my body and garden reeee.
t. Daily smoker

>>136161879
Two or three times a day. You spend all day chasing that first high.

As far as demotivation goes, you just have to will yourself over it. In time and with practice this will actually increase your will power and make you stronger mentally.

>>136161877

Huh, I had not really thought about that before, but it makes sense. I will keep that in mind.

>>136162106
>I would imagine being stoned all the time would make getting things done to be difficult.

Well yeah.

>IDK how one can be productive and be a stoner, but some people manage.

Most of them just pretend to manage from what I've seen.

>>136162150
>It means your teeth are shit.

Woooooowwww, do you mean to tell me that my toothache may have been caused by having bad teeth? What a shocking revelation, my life is now transformed forever, thank y

>>136161879
I smoke quite heavily when I do, but it never gets in the way of anything I need to do. About a quarter ounce a week so a gram a day. Just find an amount that lets you do what you need to do.

>>136161879
>Those very familiar with Cannabis or long time stoners, whats the ideal frequency to smoke per week?

Ideal?

Once a week so that you can actually plan for and enjoy it.

Realistically? Four-five times a day. But then it gets in the way of your day and becomes an irritating spiral where you're just chasing the dragon instead of getting anything done.

>>136158527
I don't give a fuck if it makes you spontaneously combust in your sleep, the government can fuck off and not tell me what I can't put in my body.

>>136158527

How To Smoke Weed and Keep Your Lungs Healthy

vape
no deep breaths
no holding it in
cool
not hot

vaping and dabbing are healthier than smoking

>>136158915
>I smoke daily and it only increases pain for me
Have you considered the possibility that you're just a little bitch?

>>136158915
I was smoking for 4 years, and I broke my hand. I had to have pins put in it, and I had to stop smoking as well because it made it feel... I guess prickly is the best way to describe it? I don't know, just uncomfortably aware of the pain in my hand. It just made it worse, it didn't help. Then again the doctor gave me oxys so I was already removed from my own head without weed.

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>>136162229
Thank you God
for this

>>136160974

It matters because there's a difference. I asked because, well, it seemed you really have no clue, lol.

Im not saying you magically smoked one kind, or both, but one kind is a lot more common. I never said smoking would make you fine. Certain strains help.

Having people who know nothing about the basics discussing it adds nothing useful.

Maybe now that the NFL is going to look into weed to help players... some of you muh reefer madness propaganda, will take the red pill.


Let people grow their own weed, so they dont get tyrones laced shit on the streets.

The states that legalized, how much money have they made? Is it new money, or would these people have bought it on the streets with that money anyway?

Money headed for cartels and gangs went to the states.

>>136162976

Often, but it's not a complete explanation for my troubles

>>136163000

That sounds like me. I think you might be on to something.

>>136158527
No! Bullshit, you should take this pill that might kill you instead. Because reasons.

>>136162106
It takes practice but is easily doable. I study and work out while stoned every day. Working out stoned also takes practice. Your workouts will suffer tremendously at first.

>>136163091
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR REDDIT SPACING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>136158718


>not addictive

change that to habit-forming. Which everything has the capacity to be

>>136162506
>weed makes you a lazy piece of shit if you smoke too much of it.

bullshit. entirely dependant on the person, their personality and the strain of weed consumed, there are multiple variables, too many to simple state outright that all weed smokers are lazy.

>it's also a lot more expensive

non-argument, if it's more expensive and out of your budget don't buy it, isn't a reason for something to remain illegal because it's expensive.

>makes certain aspects of life difficult (like passing a drug test for a job),

then don't smoke if your job says you can't and you like your job more than weed, if not, keep smoking weed and get fired. this isn't a reason for it to remain illegal.

>smells bad

personal opinion, it doesn't have to be burned, it can be vaporised which negates this issue, or made into edibles, making this a complete non-issue.

>plenty of people (myself included) endure irritating long-term effects

so because some people may incur side effects it should be kept illegal? if that's the case why isn't coffee illegal due to some people with pre-existing conditions or caffeine sensitivity could suffer heart problems. which isn't alcohol illegal since it can cause liver failure if over consumed? i'm assuming your consumption was borderline abuse if you were suffering these symptoms, you don't get those symptoms smoking a little here and there, therefore take some personal responsibility for your actions, you abuse a substance, you pay the price, still no reason for it remain illegal.

>>136163091
>It matters because there's a difference.

Except that there isn't one because I've smoked both and neither helped with my pain.

Couldn't you just not be a condescending little bitch? The other anon here is actually being helpful, but you're just being a douchebag hipster about this shit. I'm 30 years old and in pain, I don't care about your weed nerd trivia.

>>136163258
>bullshit.

False.

What I said was true.

>so because some people may incur side effects it should be kept illegal?

Mate I never even said that shit, go find someone else to argue with. You asked me a straightforward question and I gave you a straightforward answer.

>>136158527
Hemp has many industrial uses. Cannabis has many medical uses. The industrial complex and big pharma will lose money. Also, private prisons makes money improsoning pot smokers. If you think that our government prohibits the use of cannabis for our well being, then you're deluded. The government is owned by and works for the elites. This couldn't make it more obvious.

>>136158527
>cures diseases

What

>>136158527
Marijuana has a dark side to it.

Because it's illegal an unregulated as fuck, growers are putting some fucked up shit in their buds. Weed cannot be washed, and does not flush out pesticides and additives.

People are starting to get very ill from weed, I was one of them. It's not the plant, but some people are very sensitive to the additives in pot. For myself, I was vomiting uncontrollably for 2 weeks straight due to azadirachitin in weed. It's labeled as "organic" and safe but some of this shit is far from safe.

Stoners are literally slowly poisoning themselves.

The industry needs a regulatory overhaul.

If you smoke, grow your own, with nothing but sunshine, dirt, and water.

any regular smokers ever cough up black stuff? am i dying?

>>136163368

>False.
>What I said was true.

bullshit

>>136159920
>it is non-addictive just like eating chocolate, masturbating and other psychologically addictive vices. it's not physically addictive like nicotine.
>psychologically addictive vices

OP states non addictive, he is incorrect.

You contradict yourself in one sentence.

Please consider ending your life

>>136158934
Yep it's worse than meth or heroin, which is Scehdule 2.

>>136163495
Your gaslighting doesn't work here. Try again.

>>136163495
Causality of it being illegal. You don't go this is illegal, and the illegality is causing these problems, therefore keep it illegal because it causes these problems. I agree there needs to be a regulated industry, the black market can never be regulated.

>>136163612
Coughing up black stuff isn't normal. Phlegm, yeah. Should not be any strange color.

See my post >>136163495

If you really are coughing up some weird shit I guarantee you it's because of some additive toxicity.

>>136161045
weed is addictive, but if im busy i smoke less and its easier to smoke less. Trying to not get high as a neet is torture

>>136163669
Anything can be addictive if it appeals to the correct individual. no reason one thing that has addictive qualities should be restricted over the next.

>>136163228
Nope. You can have a dependency on bud, but it's not addictive or habit-forming.

>>136158527
>can even cure certain diseases


(CITATIONS NEEDED)
>non addictive
bullshit weed is as addictive as any other light drug.

>>136163760
Don't be an ignorant dude weed.

Look into pesticides in even MMJ, even some top concentrate producers have pesticide ridden product. I didn't say I was anti weed, I just said grow your own and make sure whats in it.

People like you are what make us look bad. I still smoke but just make sure I'm smoking safe material.

Grow the fuck up or go back to grasscity forums.

Honestly I'd prefer it it be legalised since it'll cut off funding to organised crime groups who sell it for funding.

I do believe it does have medical benefits and honestly if a person is getting fucked with Cancer treatment I doubt smoking weed is going to make things worse.

However, it has to be accepted that it can be addictive. It's not physically addictive yes, however I'v known a good bunch of friends (who I no longer keep in touch with) who spent day to day getting high off it.

In terms of treatment It's probably best to treat it like regular smoking, something you shouldn't get involved in. No doubt if it does get legalised it'll be expensive as regular smoking.

On the plus side maybe legalising it will get rid of the degenerate culture surrounding it. Cringe as fuck.

I don't really follow this kind of stuff so my opinion's probably shit.

>>136158915
My girlfriend was pushed down the stairs when she was younger, she dislocated her hip and the doctors misdiagnosed and pinned it in place, as a result 10years later shes got athritis in her hips and can barely walk without literally wincing in pain, she takes 2 tramadol every few hours and can walk a little better and sit little more comfortably but on the downside she becomes a zombie.
Or we sit and smoke a few heads together and things become a little more bareable for her, admitley not as strong as tramadol although it does help her with pain relive for walking/standing ect without destroying her liver/stomach and personality in the process.
>its not a meme at all it all depends on your body and personality
>some people take morphine and its great
>others take it and it makes them violently ill
>others abuse it completly and ruin there lives.
But thats the same with weed too

>>136164066

if it's made into edibles or vaporised there's no reason to lump it in with regular smoking.

should alcohol also be treat like regular smoking, something you shouldn't get involved in? instead of being glorified?

>>136158527
>dood
>non addictive
>lmao
Stop trolling

>>136158527
>>non addictive
False.
I'm not opposed to legislation but please don't lie about it.

>>136160468
>smoking
Get out of my country filthy communist

>>136163274

Couldnt you have just said, hey, ive tried a variety of stains, both sativa, indica, and hybrids...

Couldn't you just not be a condescending little bitch?

https://www.medicaljane.com/2013/06/28/cannabis-indica-vs-cannabis-sativa-differences/

If you were getting your stuff on the black market, you cant guarantee you know what you were smoking, or if/what it was laced with.

what about abdominal/intestinal pain? i have severe ulcerative colitis and can only take opioids for the pain, nsaids make me bleed/inflame even more and tylenol does nothing, even near overdose amounts it doesn't help

fking druggies and fentanyl diluters ruining it for legitimate pain relief needs, hydrocodone is not evil! moral panic "epidemic"

my new gi doctor going to try a stool transplant to cure my c.difficile infection, hopefully that + $$$$$ iv medicine will give me some results but until then i'm in awful aching pain every day

can anyone attest for abdominal pain releif from cbd edibles? thanks sorry for slightly ot

>>136164623
addiction potential of a substance isn't universal.

Some people may become addicted to it, some people may not. therefore isn't it both addictive and non-addictive depending on the individual involved? so saying outright it is addictive is false, while saying outright it isn't is also false.

>>136163794
>If you really are coughing up some weird shit I guarantee you it's because of some additive toxicity.

i know my dealer and he personally grows his shit there is no "additive toxicity" or any chemicals. it seems like coughing up black shit is normal/not harmful for very heavy smokers. just a side effect of smoking the danky dank for long periods of time without break.

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>>136164715
Make me faggot

>>136163827
Cool, inform me as to where as I said any of that

>>136165014

you didn't say it, I did.

>>136158527
smoking anything is bad for health

>>136164623
its really not addictive though. maybe habit forming but not addictive.

>>136164949
It's an inflammatory disease correct? Then it should work wonders considering cannabis is one of the strongest anti inflammatory agents there is. You can even buy CBD oil online that might help.

https://www.bluebird-botanicals.com/concentrated-hemp-extracts/

There are various sites where you can find many different forms of pure cbd, be it oil, smoke able, or even in gum form.

>>136164949
Do you have issues with smoking? I have crohn's disease and I take opiates and smoke for the pain. I havent been able to find a reliable source for cbd so I get it through smoking. The thc helps the pain you just have to be careful with the increase in appetite. I can eat things when im high that I really shouldn't eat so it takes self control to suppress that. I hate to reccomend this but I have actually heard cigarettes help with UC. I am quitting currently but my doctor joked if I had UC instead of crohn's I could keep smoking.

>>136158527
>safe
>non addictive
lol

>>136164975
Perhaps I'm paranoid because I've been affected by additives. I honestly don't know anyone who's coughed up black shit from smoking, and at my peak I was smoking and eighth a day.

How much do you smoke?

>>136158527
>natural
Lol no.

Generations of selectively breeding, grown and sprayed with all sorts of addictive chemicals.
Gtfo.
>can even cure certain diseases
"Hurr durr weed totally cures like, cancer bro!"
No. It causes cancer just as every other burned organic substance does.
>obsoletes most painkillers
So does opium.
>non addictive
False as well.
>plethora of industrial uses
It already is used in industrial environments.
Ever hear of hemp? Exactly. You don't need to legalize a drug just for the sake of hemp, which is already legally sourced without growing buds.

Weed shouldn't be legal.
Psylocibin mushrooms however.. should be legal to grow, posess, sell etc

>>136161853
>>136163796
proving my point, thanks

>>136159361
Being an information junky is steps above a substance abuser. Lots of people work their asses off doing pointless tanks for money to buy substances to abuse their bodies with.

>>136164949
I have had terrible irritable bowl syndrome in the past and weed has calmed it down like nothing else. Just regular street weed no fancy high cbd stuff. One joint smoked quickly and my cramps would completely dissappear. Its good for your gut something to do with your body's endocannabinoid system and the neurons in your gut.

>>136158915
Anons, what mj strains are best for pain management? I have severe disk degeneration in my neck. Opiates hep a lot butt I'm Sick of the opiate treadmill, docs, bullshit etc.

>>136161594
>anecdotal evidence
The stoners favourite kind of evidence.

>>136164973
I used to smoke it, as did all of my mates. Everyone ended up addicted or worse, schizophrenic. You might think we're weak but whatever, we were 16.

I won't knock the medicinal properties and I think we've wasted lots of money on criminalisation but I can't agree that it's not addictive.

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>>136158527
>Weed
It's degenerate, but not really that big of a deal. More opportunity for me to be a successful non-degenerate I suppose.

>An-cap

We need to talk anon, you are headed down a path of self destruction, and as your friends we simply cannon sit around and watch any longer.

>>136165725
Any strong indica strain will do. I'd recommend G13 or La Confidential. A satvia or hybrid strain would also be good but not to the same extent.

>>136165511
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269508

> In contrast, cannabinoids induce apoptosis of glioma cells in culture and regression of malignant gliomas in vivo. Breast and prostate cancer cells are also sensitive to cannabinoid-induced antiproliferation. Regarding the immune system, low doses of cannabinoids may enhance cell proliferation, whereas high doses of cannabinoids usually induce growth arrest or apoptosis.

>Generations of selectively breeding, grown and sprayed with all sorts of addictive chemicals.
Gtfo.

Selectively bred, yes, so is corn. Chemicals are a moot point because you can't state for a fact it applies to all, or would even be a thing under a regulated system

>No. It causes cancer just as every other burned organic substance does.

Burning isn't the only method of ingestion, just the easiest, again a result of criminality.

>non addictive
>False as well.

ANYTHING can be habit or psychologically addictive, show me a pot smoker getting delirium tremens from not smoking.

>>136165373
It is if you're a kid. I have no idea whether it's addictive as an adult because that's when I stopped.

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>>136158527
>>non addictive
m8...

>>136158527
Weed can reduce your testosterone by 30-40%

Keep smoking goy

>>136162310
just ordered the 50$ 500mg bottle.

I smoke dabs (roughly a gram a week), is this similar to the physical feeling of dabs vs weed?

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>>136165490
i'm at my peak now and i'm smoking a quarter every two days or so coupled with my pack of cigs a day and no physical activity. i'm sure it is the bud making me cough up black shit because it was still happening before i took up cigs.

>>136165827
I think your mates probably had mental issues to start with m8. I smoked almost everyday from 13 up until today. Having a lil break for a month right now and its not hard at all. We shouldn't be so quick to balme weed for people's fucked up mental health.

>>136166119
Those numbers sound a bit extreme, but I've witnessed first hand how it can completely drain your male vitality. I even feel my political ideologies starting to dwindle when I smoke weed every day. Pot smokers will say "Her derrr, it's because you are learning to evolve, and think clearly for once broooo" nah fuck that, my natural male aggression and power is being taken away. You are being castrated of your will power.

>>136165530
i wasn't trying not to you stupid fuck

>>136166172
This is pure cbd, no psychoactive ingrediants whatsoever. Dabs are just concentrated weed. There shouldn't be a high to it

>>136165511
>Generations of selectively breeding, grown and sprayed with all sorts of addictive chemicals.
Generalizing.

>No. It causes cancer just as every other burned organic substance does.
False

>So does opium
Not an argument

>False as well.
False

>Ever hear of hemp? Exactly. You don't need to legalize a drug just for the sake of hemp, which is already legally sourced without growing buds.
Not in the US.

>Weed shouldn't be legal.
I'm going to put you in prison for being a faggot, get ready to comb Tyrone's chest hair.

>>136166204
A q every two days! That will fuck your lungs if it's bush/brick weed or something like that. You ought to check your weed for stuff that shouldn't be in there, hairs fibers shit like that. Sometimes it ain't grown in the cleanest environment, I've found fibers and bad shit you shouldn't smoke in my weed before. This shit wouldn't happen if it was legal.

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>>136166172
dabs are great

>>136166440
I bought the 6x concentrated for 50$. Whats the difference between the 6x and the 'classic'?

>>136166030
Dependency =/= addiction

>>136166204
You are going to die anon.

>>136166676
Hemp Classic – 250+ mg cannabinoids per fluid ounce.
>Hemp Classic 6x – 1,500+ mg cannabinoids per ounce

Concentration.

Keep smoking, losers.

Stay at the bottom of the barrel.

>>136158718
Addiction to marijuana is 100% subjective, so good luck with that. Marijuana smoke is objectively less harmful than cigarette smoke for example, has never been reported to CAUSE cancer, and even though smoke in general is bad for your lungs - smoking marijuana is objectively less destructive to your physical body than getting fucked up on alcohol. Empirical science!

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>>136166030
I think he means non physically addictive.
Weed is solely mentally addictive, unlike cigarettes or caffeine which are physically addictive and will make you feel withdrawal effects.
Someone can easily go from smoking weed everyday for months to not doing it for 6 months if they actually have a reason to.
Cigs on the other hand are actually addictive and are hard to quit even if you really want to.

You can abuse weed but that's on you.
You're going to outlaw burgers some people abuse cheese burgers all day long.
Most competent and functioning people can tend to their responsibilities and smoke a joint in their free time. (Even if weed is kind of a waste of time because you could be spending that high time where you're sitting on the couch, learning a new skill or working)

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Pot isn't addic-

I mean

Pot is saf-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4010220/Cannabis-addict-smothered-seven-month-old-son-death.html

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>>136166321
No wonder why weed is so popular and pushed by the left and mainstream celebrities.

>>136166793

The most I ever dabbed of some blood red wax is 0.3g.

How much drops should I take without throwing up I guess? says 15 drops for starting user?

>>136166419
i wasn't saying you weren't. take a chill pill or smoke a j

My only issue with weed is the fact it is somewhat addictive and that it makes you lazy.

>>136166212
>I think your mates probably had mental issues to start with m8

Probably right.
>Parents divorce.
>Be told what a cunt your mum is for years.
>Smoke lots of weed. LOTS
>Find photos of your old man wearing a dress with a dildo up his arse.
>Become a bit crazy and get sectioned.
>In and out of mental health institutions.
>Released onto the streets of Bristol.
>Attempt suicide from the suspension bridge.
>Punch a dozen women and get locked up.
>Police find an axe under your bed.

I went to the lad's flat to have some speed and he tried to get me to go to Weston with him to get more. I said no. He went out on a punching spree.

I suppose the disgusting childhood was worse than the weed but there's no way it helped.

>>136158527
>Makes extreme stupid
>Rewires your brain so that you cannot shut the fuck up
>Makes lazy and slow.
>Is addictive

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>>136158527
DUDE WEED LMAO

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
>Cannabis use has been shown to impair cognitive functions on a number of levels—from basic motor coordination to more complex executive function tasks, such as the ability to plan, organize, solve problems, make decisions, remember, and control emotions and behavior. These deficits differ in severity depending on the quantity, recency, age of onset and duration of marijuana use. Understanding how cannabis use impairs executive function is important. Individuals with cannabis-related impairment in executive functions have been found to have trouble learning and applying the skills required for successful recovery, putting them at increased risk for relapse to cannabis use.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4250161/
> In this study, we found that chronic exposure to marijuana (i) reduces OFC gray matter volume, (ii) increases structural and functional connectivity, and (iii) leads to neural alterations that are modulated by age of onset and duration of use. All in all, these findings suggest that chronic marijuana use results in complex neuroadaptive processes.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/
>The relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia fulfills many but not all of the standard criteria for causality, including temporality, biological gradient, biological plausibility, experimental evidence, consistency, and coherence. At the present time, the evidence indicates that cannabis may be a component cause in the emergence of psychosis, and this warrants serious consideration from the point of view of public health policy.

>https://cdpsdocs.state.co.us/ors/docs/reports/2016-SB13-283-Rpt.pdf
Bonus one

>>136158915
Brush your fucking teeth.

>>136166955
>tabloid tier link
Get the fuck out and come back when you have empirical science you pleb fuck.

>>136166963
15 is exactly what they suggest.

>Most people swallow 15 drops (25+ mg cannabinoids) or more, as desired. The amount that people take on a daily basis can vary greatly. Our hemp extract oils can be ingested morning or night, on an empty or full stomach.

You could probably consume quite a lot of it without throwing up, it's fairly decent at nausea prevention as well.

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>>136167128
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
>Cannabis use has been shown to impair cognitive functions on a number of levels—from basic motor coordination to more complex executive function tasks, such as the ability to plan, organize, solve problems, make decisions, remember, and control emotions and behavior. These deficits differ in severity depending on the quantity, recency, age of onset and duration of marijuana use. Understanding how cannabis use impairs executive function is important. Individuals with cannabis-related impairment in executive functions have been found to have trouble learning and applying the skills required for successful recovery, putting them at increased risk for relapse to cannabis use.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4250161/
> In this study, we found that chronic exposure to marijuana (i) reduces OFC gray matter volume, (ii) increases structural and functional connectivity, and (iii) leads to neural alterations that are modulated by age of onset and duration of use. All in all, these findings suggest that chronic marijuana use results in complex neuroadaptive processes.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/
>The relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia fulfills many but not all of the standard criteria for causality, including temporality, biological gradient, biological plausibility, experimental evidence, consistency, and coherence. At the present time, the evidence indicates that cannabis may be a component cause in the emergence of psychosis, and this warrants serious consideration from the point of view of public health policy.

>https://cdpsdocs.state.co.us/ors/docs/reports/2016-SB13-283-Rpt.pdf

>b-b-b-but it's NATURAL

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>>136158527
It's addictive as fuck. I've never stopped craving being a shut-in stoner loser with no pain or drive who fights with people online and creates dank memes. It's more fun than girls or anything involving other fucking humans.

That fucking faggot has no idea how to hit a bong. If you don't rip the whole neck then you're going to burn the shit out of the back of your throat
There's a reason gravity bongs are so good, because you can't bitch out like that faggot in the OP

I used to smoke daily. Honestly quitting wasnt hard for me at all. And I never saw any deficits whilst using it, or really saw any major differences months after I quit in how I feel.
>inb4 degenerate with no future

i make ~60k a year at 24. I have a wife and she's pregnant, and I have a nice place near a local beach with her. No problems, no complications to pregnancy according to the doctor. Y'all are a bunch of overcritical faggots who buy into propoganda at any turn. Maybe form your own opinion and smoke a blunt. Unelss you don't think you can handle it or just don't want to. No one is going to force weed smoke down your lungs.

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>>136166955
Yes because every person who smokes weed is a fucking child beater, take a second and look at how retarded you sound.

That's almost as stupid as me finding a serial killer who ate chocolate cake everyday and trying to shift blame onto the fucking cake.
That guy was clearly fucked in the head to begin with.

>>136158527
>natural
>safe
>non addictive
>medicinal
>obsoletes most painkillers
>can even cure certain diseases
>plethora of industrial uses
>schedule 1 controlled substance

How can you be sure of any of this if your so baked you can't even move.

>>136167091
nice govt funded junk science.

>>136167263
Wow, it's almost like it's still not a reason to give the government control over what you put into your body. Excuse me while I go to Mcdonalds and eat myself into a diabetic coma.

>>136167342
Does chocolate have a direct link to schizophrenia? If so, you'd have a case!

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>>136167273
this. i'm 38 and im an addicted daily user. my dilemna is that i also have ulcerative colitis, and weed makes the cramps and pain go away instantly. comfortably numb.

>>136167341
>inb4 "omg there's a typo weed turns people retarded confirmed!!!"

A typo is a fucking typo.

>>136166119
>>136166119
>Weed can reduce your testosterone by 30-40%
>Keep smoking goy
it also shrinks your nuts!!!

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>>136167446
>shifts from DUDE ITS HARMLESS LOL to b-b-b-but muh rights, you don't want to be a government cuck, do you goy????

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>>136167427
>it's not science if it was funded by the govt.!
>my gender studies prof. Goldstein said it's 100% safe and healthy

>>136166928
Everything you do releases chemicals in the brain can be considered addictive. Now using products that give you withdraw effects are habit forming which weed isnt one of them.

>>136158527
Pot causes manboobs - ban it nationwide.

>>136167495
>>136167273
maybe it's a problem with your psyche then, because i have never once craved weed. I smoke for fun when I can. Haven't smoked in over 2 years because I got bored of it.

>>136167454
Neither does cannabis. It wont cause someone to go schizo, but it will exacerbate it in someone who already has it. So I guess we should outlaw all peanut products, as some people might get an allergic reaction?

>>136167584
I've never stated that it's harmless. Like everything in life it carries it's own inherent problems. We're on a board with ID's, find me the post of mine where I claimed it was harmless.

>>136167263
>links article from 2014 which cites things from 2007, never actually disclosing information about the "test subjects" themselves - such as lifestyle, personal medical history etc.
>cannabis gets you high! Shocking news!
Do you know what empirical science means? Fuck you're stupid.

>>136167584
I'm not him you retarded ignorant fuck. Get out.

>>136167596
sauce on pic?

>>136167536
>>136167637
Also this.

>>136162106
being sober you certainly have the capacity to get more productive things done... but often times you don't. being stoned helps some people do these things, sometimes menial like cleaning but also some things like writing or paying bills or reading books youve been meaning to so you can learn something. I do not believe it's just wasted time.

Nothing is without downsides but those of weed are so trivial that it's absurd to ban it.

That said, if you want to ban things to nanny people you're a authoritarian commie and hate freedom.

>>136166998
>Bristol
No wonder he went mad.

>>136158527
>Causes massive decrease in sperm mobility for days leading to numerous problems.
>Causes lung cancer just like cigarettes, and to a lesser extent, vaping it.
>Causes increases to reaction time after long term use.
>General lower cognitive abilities
>You're a fucking retard if you think it's not habit forming.
>Getting high takes moments and can incapacitate you the rest of the day.
>Driving high is almost as bad as driving drunk.

I think it should be legal, but I'm a libertarian that thinks everything should be legal and we don't need the state to be our parents. Legalize cocaine! Over the counter cyanide would increase the literacy rate of Americans and decrease gun deaths and autism.

If you smoke pot, wait 10-30 days before fucking a woman or get ready to blame it on vaccines to make yourself fell like less of a jackass.

>>136167596
kek

>>136158527
i wish it would be legalized so faggots like you would shut the fuck up already

>>136167454
Having an increased familial genetic risk for schizophrenia is the underlying basis for schizophrenia in weed smokers and not weed use by itself.

>>136167846
/thread

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>>136167728
>>136167721
>takes the side of retarded OP argument about how safe it is
>b-b-b-b-but that's not what I said!!!!!

>>136168020
Calling you a retard doesn't mean I endorse OP.

>>136167804
this. people disregard the productivity thc can cause in people. my wife went throughout college as a stoner, got straight-A's, tutored in their writing center, and had a full ride the entire time. Even joined some academic organizations. It doesn't turn you into a degenerate unless you have no drive to succeed in life, which weed does not cause, in my experience at least.

>>136158527

It's clearly fucking addictive.

Stoners CANNOT function without weed. They are total degenerates that leech off the system.

Furthmire it clearly fucks your mind up. I've known many people that started smoking weed in college. Most went from normal people getting good degrees to socialist faggots getting liberal arts degrees.

Keep up the good fight you fucking communist

>>136158527
>Open weed shops in ghettos and black concentrated areas
>See nog SATs go even lower
>More crime and poverty in ghettos

Alright

>>136167761
Janice Griffith

>>136168020
>never actually smoked weed
>acts like he understands what smoking weed is like
>hurr durr my argument from ignorance is totally valid
Kill yourself.

>>136158527
Degenerate.

>>136167846
^^^^^^^^ even if you agree pot is harmful it certainly isnt the menace it was portrayed to be when the government first banned it

>>136167899
I forgot, it can also really fuck up a prenatal baby. Fetal Alcohol Syndromee ish. Pregnant women should not smoke pot or be around second hand pot smoke. They shouldn't eat it or inject it either.

Pregnancy is really sensitive, avoid all neurotransmitters if you can. Some people even think Coffee and Asprin have negative effects. I haven't read the studies on that though.

THC absolutely does. So take care.

I think Pot is the Jew's way of preventing or fucking up white reproduction. So I recommend avoiding it most of the time. Infrequent use isn't really a problem though. Especially if you're careful about when you have unprotected sex.

>>136158527
>shitty skin
>generally low fitness
every single time.

The arabs used to force their slaves to smoke weed because it made them docile and less likely to take initiative. Really makes you think.

>>136168106
>Stoners CANNOT function without weed.
stop blaming a plant for a bunch of lazy fuck's who would be lazy regardless of them smoking weed or not

>>136167681
i agree. i know it is an issue with my psyche. downside of being a norwegian/irish mix is the addictions to absolutely anything. with me at least

>>136158718
Anyone who says it isn't addictive has never been a daily user, after a month or two of using it everyday you WILL get insomnia and irritability/anxiety, even headaches.
It's fine if you just use it a few times a week, but when you start using it to go to sleep everynight like I was you'll understand how addictive it can be, way more than "psychological addictions".

>>136158527
>>non addictive
Stop pushing this meme. I've smoked pot since I was 14, I've been working on quitting for the last 2 months. It doesn't literally kill you if you quit it like some drugs but to say it's non-addictive is fucking retarded. Nor is it safe, I've been hacking up brown and black loogies out of my lungs for more than a year.

>>136162701
You should get your A1C checked you might be diabetic.

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>>136168230
>legitimately trying to use appeal to authority/experience

Want to come up with a better argument, sweetums?

>>136167988
If it was federally legalized you would instantly see stoner culture nationwide. People would be smoking all across the land the smell would linger everywhere you go. More crime and DUIs but less violent crime as a result. Life would slow down and our GDP would shrink. A baby boom would ensue as dude weed would break down cultural barriers and the white race would fade away. . Careful what you wish for.

>>136168412

Jesus Christ.

Same could be said for any other drug you fucking idiot.

It takes the mildly lazy and turns them into the dregs of humanity

>>136168369
The ismaelis (an old Islamic sect) would offer it to their soldiers to give them a pre taste of the after life.
Really makes you think.

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>>136163216

>>136159920
When you say safe, you mean there's no chance of the drug directly causing death. We know that it has a longterm effect on cognition (focus and memory mainly) and it isn't safe in the sense that you should be doing activities that require a clear state of mind (driving, operating heavy machinery, etc).

>>136168424
>using it to go to sleep everynight like I was
>WILL get insomnia

No shit sherlock. If I'm constantly constipated, and thus take a medication to help me shit. If I stop taking the medication I assume I'll have a difficult time shitting again.

I actually have insomnia, got prescribed ambien. If I don't take it I might not sleep, it's almost like that's what I was taking it for.

>>136168492
>I've smoked pot since I was 14

Let me guess you're a skinnyfat cuckboy

>>136168492
>I started smoking pot at 14
>started at 14
Wow it's almost like any activity you pick up and repeat all the time at that age onward will have a significant effect on how your brain is wired as you developed.

>>136168600
Again, fuck off and come back when you have empirical science. You've shared a tabloid article and other links with literally nothing but subjective trite.

>>136164949
my uc is pancolitis but also a less severe case so take this with a grain of salt. for me, using cannabis is like hitting a reset switch. the pain goes away almost instantly. from what i have gathered, the gut has twice as many cannabinoid receptors than the brain. cannabis, especially the pungent, dank indicas, reduces inflammation and what i like better - reduces gut motility to a crawl. i was stuck at work, had 14 shits that day until i got home and smoked a bowl. it stopped until the next day. i think it's magical. the downside is that i know im addicted to it.

Its not safe, smoking weed is just as harmful as smoking cigarettes

>>136167846
Destroying sperm mobility is not trivial. THC is quite harmful to reproductive health and to prenatal babies.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0015028205039427

I'd like to note that some reports have shown that it has long term negative consequences for women since they never produce new eggs. We don't have great control groups but it's definitely a concern since cannabinoid receptors should effect women in an equivalent way.

This isn't trivial at all. It's not the bullshit boomers and their parents said about it, but it's not negligible.

The rise in autism has mirrored the rise in cannabis use, it could very well be the cause. We just don't know yet. Unless you have a need for pot, you should avoid it.

>>136159920
>t. guy that knows nothing about stoners

any stoner will admit that he is addicted in my experience. I have also suffered extreme weed adictio. Its real, and might as well be considered a psychical addiction because you end up needing it to function
(chronic dailey users only)

>>136165944
>low doses of cannabinoids may enhance cell proliferation
HURR DURR LET'S JIST LET EVERYBODY SKOKE W33D LOL!!

No, cannabinoids are already legal, therefore not an argument.
>selectively bred, yes, so is corn
Never said corn was natural, nice straw man argument.
>burning isn't the only method of ingestion, just the easiest, again a result of criminality.
So?
>
ANYTHING can be habit or psychologically addictive, show me a pot smoker getting delirium tremens from not smoking.
How is this an argument? Thanks for proving my point.

Also for the "but maaan, muh weed cures muh cancer bro..."
Are you implying that cannabinoids aren't legal?
Of course you completely forget about those when the whole concept of marijuanas medical uses are brought up.
You just want it to be legal so you can get high you waste of space.
>>136166527
>False
No it isn't.
>Generalizing
No it isn't.
>Not an argument
Yes it is.
>Not in the US
Hemp is still used in the USA.
>im going to put you in prison for being a faggot, get ready to comb Tyrone's chest hair.
Homosexuality is a mental disorder.

>>136169026
xDDDDDDDD

Weed impedes the motor functions of your sperm.

>>136168882
Does it work better than the meds prescribed to you by doctors?

>>136168609
good, maybe then corruption and cultural destruction wouldnt occur as much when whities are gone.

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>>136168867
>it's not empirical science if I don't like the results it comes to!

And weedniggers wonder why they're not taken seriously

>>136159415
Hahahahahaha

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>>136168424
I used to smoke every night before bed for around 6 months and a friend started lecturing me about how I was addicted and couldn't stop even if I wanted to.
Told him I don't want to because I don't see a reason to stop. (It didn't affect my ability to tend to my responsibilities)
He said he's pay me 50 bucks (I live in NJ during the year) every month I didn't smoke.
i went 6 months without smoking just like that.
Then I started again because 50 dollars isn't that much and I was just trying to prove a point.

If you're not a lazy piece of shit, weed won't turn you into a lazy piece of shit.
I remember I use to have a lot of school work but want to get high so what I would do is, I would use the weed as an incentive to get a lot of work done,
>I'd tell myself "anon do ALL this work and only then are you allowed to get high"
so I'd finish all of my school work, smoke up and chill out before bed.

Then I stopped smoking eventually because I got PTSD from a traumatic event and weed would make me think about it a lot which wasn't that enjoyable. (only do it once every few months if friends are doing it and I feel like it)

>>136158527
DUDE.
WEED. LMAO

>>136168659
Yes and Muslims are definitely the poster boys of intellect and high functioning societies.

>>136169068
>Are you implying that cannabinoids aren't legal?

I've literally linked suppliers in this thread that sell hemp based CBD products.

I have not made a single argument that it should be legal because it's not harmful. Just the government has no fucking place in telling me what I can and can't consume. They aren't me, they aren't allowed to make that decision for me.

>>136168789
No dude I didn't have insomnia until I started having weed withdrawals, I wasn't using it to go to sleep to begin with, I was just getting high all the time my freshman year of college.
Then after not smoking all day I tried to go to sleep and couldn't then I started to realize other withdrawal symptoms including not even being hungry enough to eat a full meal and getting irritated by everything.
The weed caused that, now that I'm not addicted to it I can sleep fine with no help.

>>136168867
>Wow it's almost like any activity you pick up and repeat all the time at that age onward will have a significant effect on how your brain is wired as you developed.
Yah no shit. I'm not denying this in any way. Why don't you drop your dumbass attitude when someone with personal experience is supporting your position you dumb fucking nigger?
>>136168864
>Let me guess you're a skinnyfat cuckboy
I was, I've been working out to help me quit and it's going pretty well. Still really just want to light up at the end of the day but I have a job with the Military where it's not an option anymore.

>>136169026
motherfucker that article is about a study done IN VITRO. Literally in a test tube they forced sperm to come into contact with delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol. How exactly does an artificial encounter like that validate broad claims as "true" about the effects smoking cannabis supposedly has on sperm?

>>136169026
Yeah
Nothing to do with polysorbate 40, 80 in your cream for the texture.
Nothing to do with tartrazine in your candies for the color.
Nothing to do with all the fucking useless and dangerous additives they add in your food.
Nop.
Blame it all on weed.


Come on now.

(Takes hit)
Fuckin tear it down man! (cough cough cough) I'm sick of these corrupt corporate capitalist entities killing my fucking buzz bro! (other degenerate stoner after taking hit)

"(Cough cough) Dude you are so fucking right on it bro, it's why we need someone like Bernie bro! Fuckin fascist corporations are just like Hitler and the Nazis. Let's fucking use the corporate structure as fuel for a fire that we can all keep warm to bro! We should all be the fuckin president, that's the only way"

>>136169214
>not taken seriously
Keep telling yourself that as over half of the country legalized it, and more are getting on the ballet every year. Officially more than half of the states have legalized it, and dozens more are lined up to make it legal. You're fucking retarded lol

>>136166923
How would you even study the effects of marijuana smoke on cancer? You would have to control for people who don't smoke cigarettes and have never been exposed to cigarette smoke. Also, for the same reason cigarettes have never been explicitly connected to cancer, it would be close to impossible to create an actual rigorous experimental design that controlled for all the possible confounding variables involved in something as nebulous as cancer causing agents let alone the problem of longitudinal review etc.

>>136169442
increasing testosterone is the best workout, so stop smoking that shit

>>136169586
You'd have to discover the mechanism. Statistics can't prove that any lifestyle choice has any effect, it can only tell you what the statistics are.

>>136169425
So then there is no need for it to be legal for medical uses.
You only endorse legalization of weed just so you can get stoned.

>2017
>not eating 5g of magic mushrooms every other week
weed is a major blue pill

>>136169586
Exactly. As time goes on more people in politics realize how much empirical science is stacked against every argument for why cannabis was ever made illegal. The proof is that every year more states legalize it, first medically and then for recreational use. The collective benefits that come with legalizing it completely eclipse any supposed negative elements.

>>136169577
Officially more than half of the states have legalized it
You're thinking medicinal man.
Only like 8 have passed legislation for legal recreational use.

>>136169183
absolutely. i stopped taking my balsalazide altogether and now all i need is azathioprine. i was getting the same uc symptoms as side effects of the balsalazide that are gone now. i still get random flare pains every couple weeks but weed takes care of them. i never take any other pain medications

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>>136169577
>DUDE WE GOT ALL THE POTHEADS TO LEGALIZE IT A LITTLE BIT!
>NOW LETS GO TO THE BALLET BRO!

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>>136169544
This is true in relation to prostate cancer. The best course of action as a male you can take against all these invasive additives these days is masturbate a lot to clear your prostate. Dont be a prude guy in your 40s with prostate cancer because you were too good for fapping, do your part. Stay healthy.

>>136169576
Typical faggot that thinks the gubment needs to moral police private actions.

How did that work during prohibition?

>>136158915
Because you were relaxed enough to feel sensation you overlooked.
>2 days no sleep
>finishing up project working like a machine
>smoked indica
>realized how exhausted I was
Thought I could just work like a machine, took the next day easy and tried to get 8hr's of sleep, felt way better the following day. It's important we listen to our bodies, not just try and drive through like machines, we're not machines. I also stubbed my toe and tried to ignore it, really relaxed with indica, the sensation in my toe was pretty strong I must of hit it pretty hard, I nursed it and probably let it heal properly. Maybe you're agro like me, driving through everything, ignoring the little nuances our body signals us, cannabis indica can really help "physically evaluate" as well as emotional and metal.
>>136158934
It's not physically addictive, I smoked for a year straight in college like in a frat soooo high almost all day, one day I met a chick who I wanted to impress I hid my bong and stopped smoking, month later I forgot about it until I cleaned my room and found my bong, Nothing noticeable what so ever, can't say the same about coffee, or sugar. Also people who have "dumb" cognitive habits, and get distracted by the sensation, that's where you get the "stoner meme" When I smoked I left the club scene, and found myself in books studying the ancients Pluto, Aristotle, Hippocrates, Machiavelli, I found it interesting as well as studying auto mechanic stuff and other sciences, you could say it raised my IQ but It really just reconnected myself with my curious self I always was, I guess I lost myself in the temptation of fitting in, It reveals who you really are - note that, some people might have trouble seeing who they really are, but it gives you a window in what you need to fix.
>>136159334
Thats interesting, Maybe you generally feel like and cannabis was treating your symptoms? like getting off advil.

>>136169833
>So then there is no need for it to be legal for medical uses.
Fucking what. I'll take entourage effect for $500, CBD is great and all, but it alone isn't for everyone.
>You only endorse legalization of weed just so you can get stoned.
Why the fuck does that matter? I smoke it because I enjoy it, the government has no place in deciding that for me.

>>136169891
Yes I am thinking medical. It's a slow process but that's how it works: first it gets on the ballet for legalization, then if it gets passed it becomes legal for doctors to prescribe. As time goes on and reality sets in that it was a good fucking choice to legalize it, more people will discover via from their doctors that it is objectively less harmful to consume marijuana than alcohol. People put 2 and 2 together then put it on the ballet for recreational use soon following. This is what's happening in the united states and has been for the last decade or so

>weed lol

Marijuana is stinky and makes you dumb.

The two best reasons for it being illegal are that it fries your brain and gives you weed dick. That said, those are self-correcting problems. A bunch of literally impotent retards remove themselves pretty handily from the gene pool.

>>136170064
Holy shit, saved that pic. It's not just the fat titties, but the fact that she is so angry. FAAAAAP

>>136158527
That's just gay nigger shit only monkeys smoke pot they are trying to herd the nigger cattle with weed and make the white men their slave.
Fucking black dick nigger orgasms on weed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4s-6fnLSzE
For anyone that doubts potential medicinal effects of weed.
Big pharma also wants it to stay illegal so (((they))) can keep selling their overpriced drugs even if they aren't as effective.

>>136170211
dude lol for sure
let's go to the bar and get fucked up bro

>>136169576
I smoke weed on a regular base and I've read every single book from Nietzsche except the birth of a tragedy
Every single books from Tocqueville too, read Hobbes, read John Locke and Adam Smith , fucking hated Marx and Rousseau.

+ I'm in good shape and been doing martial arts since the age of 8.

I am aware that I might be an exception. Still I deserve no hate from a regular plebeian simply because I smoke weed.
If you had my brain perhaps you would also need weed to slow down, no point in staying up all night in my bed overthinking everything.

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>>136170102
Poorly, because (((democracy))) is cancer.

>>136158718
I quit weed cold turkey last month.
It's psychologically addicting yes, but not physically. Alcoholics literally cannot function sober.

>>136158718
I smoked daily for 10 years and recently quit cold turkey, haven't had any problems so far. The "addiction" it causes is 100% mental, once you're determined to break the habit it's easy as fuck.

>>136169893
Its good that u have it under control. It looks like u know the names of the drugs, not just the trade name. Do u study this stuff or just read the names of the bottle.

>>136170387
>This level of autism
Wew lad. Maybe quitting weed would help take care of that

>>136170387
stop being a faggot and go eat 7g of shrooms, nietzche is a meme

>>136168106
>made up bullshit: the post
I've smoked weed all day erry day for periods of several months, then I quit cold turkey because I had to get a job, withdrawal symptoms were like one week of lack of appetite, slight irritability and difficulty getting to sleep. After about a week it all went away and I was perfectly fine.

>>136170538
just by reading about the various treatments online. there are so many and they each come with their own set of problems which made it difficult to 'troubleshoot' what was my disease course and what was just because of the medications.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4114634/Marijuana-DOES-cause-schizophrenia-triggers-heart-attacks-experts-say-landmark-study-slams-drug-s-medical-benefits-unproven.html

I'm not falling into your tricks, junkies.

>>136170649
How is a 7 gram of shrooms supposed to help me?
The point is to sleep and to avoid over thinking.
Pretty sure shrooms does the contrary of that.
Pretty sure because I've already tried.

>>136170546
Doubt it would, I might end up with too much will and do something fancy.

>>136170874
>dailymail
And not an ounce of empirical science was to be seen.

>>136168106
>Furthmire it clearly fucks your mind up. I've known many people that started smoking weed in college. Most went from normal people getting good degrees to socialist faggots getting liberal arts degrees.

I was a liberal when I started smoking and now I'm a full blown nazi, you're full of shit.

>>136158527
>1 post by this id
C'mon guys. Stop being niggers

>>136169846
>>136170649
Tripping every second week is a great way to get HPPD and/or derealization disorder.

>>136170900
>Narcisism embodied

Her derrrr I'm the only anon who reads. Bow down to me, u-u-ur degenerate for not smoking weed!

>>136170761
Wow you listed a bunch of things that are chemically synthesized, good job.
I'm not even gonna bother reading the rest.

>>136170943
This

>>136171089
I am not saying you should.
I am saying that even with it I still have finer taste than you and that you remain a dirty ass plebeian.
Isn't it football or baseball night or whatever sports night it is tonight?

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>>136171443
I'm starting to think you are a Jew.

>>136168683
I drive stoned every day and guarantee I'm a much better driver than you.

>>136169439
Take a melatonin and drink a beer and you'll be asleep faggot. I've smoked pot for 15 years and have quit on multiple occasions for significant bouts of time.

>>136158527
I'm fine with it, just grow your own. I'm not paying for you to sit around and fucking eat and smoke all day. They can remove the THC, for medical patients.
I would prefer the government not make the bed this at all because then will have GMO fucking marijuana. It will never be decriminalized nationally because big prison means big-money.

>>136171875
Big weed means even bigger money though.

>>136171577
I am starting to think that you're not right wing at all.
When you think about it the alt right are just normal leftist who struggle against the full blown commies.