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Before the 2015 refugee crisis, which was classed as worse than the one following World War II, Germany’s population was predicted to drop consistently for decades. That would pose a problem because fewer people would be joining the workforce, paying taxes, and helping pay for pensions.
It’s doubtful that the refugee influx could help with Germany’s demographic problem in the long term; the country’s birthrate is just too low and it has a large baby-boom population which will die off. But at least for the short term, recent revisions to population numbers and birth rates show that the unprecedented refugee crisis is making a tangible impact.
As a new report from HSBC titled “EU Migrant Crisis: A new phase brings new challenges” points out, the UN now predicts that the German population will rise to 83 million in 2020, from around 81 million currently, after previously being estimated to drop to 80 million. Germany’s fertility rate rose to a 33-year high in 2015, thanks in large part to immigrants.

https://qz.com/1044532/migrants-are-poised-to-kickstart-the-solution-for-germanys-chronic-workforce-problem/
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>>136124151
Please archive those https://archive.is/tns7s
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>>136124151
under 100 fugees have found a job outside of the government tit,the rest lives on the back of European tax payers dude you are not solving shit you are accelerating the destruction of germany, welfare and pension they are not here to work they got promised a big breasted blond, a house and no work by the smugglers you goddamn fool.
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>>136124151
>refugees
>work
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>>136124151
Why does every country have (((workforce problems)))?
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>>136126959
This.
Why you German retards won't take Ukrainians, or Asians as a migrant? They will work at last. But you take culturally diffrent, violent, lazy, uneducated, religous fanatics. The worst labour force you can get in whole world.
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>>136124151
Fertility rise of non working welfare leeches. Germany yes! This is the way to show the rest of us, because we can cleary see how these hardworking gibs factories made Africa great.
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>>136127062
pity that the fact is they work harder and longer for lower pay doing shitty jobs that english sink estate white yobs think are beneath them. the refugees give much more to society - pay their taxes, and clean our hospitals - than most EDL and Britain first thickos ever will.

inb4 fuck off frog - I am brit in France for work...
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A year after the refugees came only 13% were working. I doubt they'll get it above 30. All on welfare.
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>>136127723
>A year after the refugees came only 13% were working. I doubt they'll get it above 30. All on welfare.
I think it is around 20% now, going up to 25% at the end of this year. Not a lot, but better than 0.
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>>136124151

The traitor class, who do well out of this, will not be so happy when we just let them destroy everything. They were counting on us to fight back. Jokes on them.
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>>136127601
>Being this delusional.
Virtually all refugees and "refugees" are permanently unemployable and will never not be on welfare unless they're expelled. Even the British government and EU haven't been able to hide this fact.
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>>136127601
Seriously, fuck off frog. Have you got any sources to back up your ridiculous claims about refugees in Germany?
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End the unsustainable idea that growth must continue forever and slight population decline is apocalyptic
Importing third-worlders by the horde will NEVER be healthy for a country. You would be better off offering more incentives for your people to pump out kids. If that fails and your people STILL aren't having kids, you would be better off LEGALLY ENFORCING marriage and child-having than importing third-world hordes.
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>>136128153
>slight population decline is apocalyptic
Population decline is absolutely apocalyptic for the boomer gen, because it means:

>Labour will be worth more.
>Smaller taxable workforce.
>Less demand for tenancy.

The boomers were expecting a free lunch from the welfare state + investments, but now they're rapidly realizing that the economic and social destruction they've been wreaking on the west about to come straight back at them in the shape of decreased welfare and government resources, more expensive everything, significant housing market devaluation and higher taxes on investments.
3rd world immigration is their panic strategy to try to inject some more people to mooch off into the economy, but (as always) they're too stupid to understand that virtually all 3rd worlders lack the education, intelligence and attitude to be able to work in a post industrial economy.
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>>136124151
In the age of automation Germany decided to flood itself and the rest of Europe with illiterate third world "workers" who now survive entirely on welfare.
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>>136124151
>Solution to workforce problem
>Muh doctors and engineers
>Muh peaceful beutiful niggers

Their pic related is a fucking warzone of a shithole. My sides.
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>>136124151
>population increases YAYYYYYYYYYYY
someone explain me why it's so fucking great to have an ever increasing population RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

Pic very much related. We all know what happens to the locusts soon after the plague period: they all die
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They are addicted to kronic?
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>>136124151
>OY VEY IF THE POPULATION STABILIZES MY PONZI SCHEME WILL CRASH
I hate these cunts so much
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>>136124151
i thought they didn't want to work and they want nothing but gibmedats?
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Didn't Germans just have a boost in population growth of ethnic Germans(they specifically looked at ethnic Germans) that completely changed the demographic forecast by millions?
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>>136124151
I honestly believe that shit like this happens because "experts" are autists that don't communicate with eachother
>expert in demographics say declining population is a concern
>expert in economics says that larger population = more consumers
>Expert in economics also warns about need of spending power and excessive welafare strain
And no one bothers to put the ideas togheter
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>>136124151
Populations rise and fall idiots, Japan is in decline but their economy is just fine.

I realize you Germans no longer have any sense of serious critical thinking since you exterminated the people who did any good for your nation and allowed jews to lord over you, but whenever a politician says "this is the only way" often they are being less than objective you retard.
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>>136132901
>In the age of automation Germany decided to flood itself and the rest of Europe with illiterate third world "workers" who now survive entirely on welfare.

I'd generally like to know if anyone in charge has actually thought about this. Mass migration and mass automation are a complete disaster waiting to happen.
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If this horde of illiterate savages is going to "help" Germany's economy, then why didn't they help the economy back in niggerland?
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>>136127851
>>Doesn't know the legal difference between refugee and migrant
>>giving jobs to outsiders that your own countryman can easily do
>>not violently removing the problem and sending them back home
>>better than 0

How so?
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>>136133999
They've thought about it in the same way that the Czar Nicholas the II thought World War 1 was a good idea.
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>>136124151
Anyone that pays over $60k for a Mercedes-Benz hand built by a fucking Somalian refugee is retarded and deserves the shit car they just wasted their life savings on.
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>>136127391
Because countries are being treated as economic labor forces instead of a unity of similar culture and tradition.

Basically they are being used as bodies of profit.
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>>136134569
Except the refugees won't even make a profit for the host nations, and will create security dangers in the form of Islamism.
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>>136124151
That would be true IF they worked, which they choose not to. IF they did work they would merely undercut the lower paid's wages. Not to mention the lack of trust that comes with diverse areas in all areas of life and the facets of state institutions in those areas that break down without huge outside (whites surplus's) funding that won't be there in 30 year's time.

The Baby Boomer's are going to retire into homes once they go senile where they will be beat up and miss-treated by the few third worlders carers who do work. Karma.
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>>136124151
" Germany’s population was predicted to drop consistently for decades. That would pose a problem because fewer people would be joining the workforce, paying taxes, and helping pay for pensions."

THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

Shrinking population means more wealth and resources for less people thus MORE WEALTH PER PERSON, MORE RESOURCES AND MORE TIME AND WELFARE

Populations go through natural cycles of shrinkage and growth.. THERE IS NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER WITH THAT
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>>136124151
Take away women's rights to work and vote. I mean, they are the one who get the children, so if they have no option but becoming mother (which they were made for) the birth rate will skyrocket.
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>>136124151
More and more jobs are being automated, you do not need more workers, most developed countries are talking about universal basic income since most people will not have a job in the future.
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>automation and a.i will take most of our jobs
>we need more people to fill jobs

which one is it?
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>>136124151
You and every single German like you should be brutally killed. You are just so dumb and disgusting.
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when you gonna give money to Poland you fucking cucks
ah i forgot you need money for these milions of niggers coming to germany
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>>136127851
sauce?
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>>136124151
>migrant is poised to kickstand the solution for Germany's chronic workforce problem
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>>136127601
never come back please
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>>136124151
>German population will rise
>German population
Some population will rise alright.
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why would anyone work when you get free gibs?
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>>136134964
>>barbarian tribes are poised to kickstand the solution for Rome's chronic workforce problem
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>>mongols are poised to kickstand the solution for kievan Rus chronic workforce problem
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>>136134459
>a Mercedes-Benz hand built by a fucking Somalian refugee
top kek i can just imagine the re-calls
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>>136135691
>Orcs are poised to kickstart the solution for Middle Earth's chronic workforce problem
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>>136127851
Only 55,000 out of the 1.5 million in Germany have found a job
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>>136135580
>>136135691
>>136136137

Kek. This is meme-worthy.
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I have some bad news for you,Hans.Ahmed will never work because thats what non-muslims are for.
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As soon as we have official statistics on net contribution like the Danes have this migrant shit is over.

Non-EU migrants (read: muslims and africans) and their descendents have to be paid for their whole life. At no point do they have a positive tax balance.

The cost we have put on ourselves is ridiculous. We literally pay 15 times more each month for a refugee child than for a German child.
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Germans need to leave behind the autocratic work lifestyle of the East in favor of Bavarian customs regarding a sanctity of preserving time over finances. Prussian ideology wouldn't hurt right now either, but largely you are working as a commie-lite nation when it comes to work right now. Workers can't have more children if they have no personal time and are too miserable to even give a fuck.
Arbeit euch macht frei nicht.
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>>136129066
>>136134814
Fuck ayy bruv. I can't hate boomers in my region though (North Arkansas) because we all watch out for each other. But I can imagine big cities having this problem (especially landlord boomers). At least the economy don't affect us too much as much of our resources are locally regional.
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>>136135691
Amazing how these manlets conquered.
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>>136127851
>it is around 20% now, going up to 25% at the end of this year
State subsidized redundant and mundane task that exist solely for the purpose of "employing" rapefugees like manually sorting letters which we have much more efficient machines for are not "employment"
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Comes of people being scared to be racist, they have to maintain the pretence of treating all people and immigrants as being interchangeable and of equal worth. It just about makes sense if you think of it like that
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>>136138279
>registered 9632
>there are 5 million at least
Thats an awful percentage,Hans.
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>>136124151
>kickstart the solution for Germany's ... problem

By destroying Germany once and for all?
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what happens when the state cant afford the welfare of these migrants who refuse to work?(and even if they did they're too dumb to make a lot of money)

does the state print money as handouts causing hyperinflation?
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>>136124151
>OH GAWD THE ECONOMY GOY
Germans lived just fine as a poor destitute backwater. In fact they were better off for it.
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>>136137724
Mongols are tall though
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>>136127546
because the goal is extermination, not economic prosperity
they don't give two shits if the refugees get a job, they just want them to rape and murder europeans
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>>136136634
on it
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>>136124151
Isn't that the camp they burned down because the different Jawa breeds got in a fight?
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>>136124151

This is factually incorrect as refugees are unemployable. Those that *can* be employed can only do extremely menial jobs which they do not want to do - and if they are forced to do them, guess whom they will hate over it? Us.

Asylants are a gross and net loss.
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>>136124151
why is everything on fire ?
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>>136124151
I cant wait for the flood of amateur german porn. I know its on the way.
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>>136139731
>>136136634
>>136136137
>>136124151
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>>136124151
>believing government propaganda

The low birth-rates were caused by feminism and birth-control. While it's true the invaders are getting brought here by the droves to compensate the low birthrate another reason is to partly counteract the rampant feminism (that's why merkel is so hell-bent on importing muslims only, though they'd never admit that) and most importantly destruction of the ethnic german people and the nation state of Germany itself ----> Facilitates establishment of EU-Superstate with a dumb, root- and identityless populace that can be interchanged at will
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>>136135691
>>136140174
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>>136134459
Dont worry, mercedes-benz has their recearch center and manufacturing in Hungary
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>>136124151
70% of refugees are illiterate. They are unfit for German standards. Even turks who live here in the seventh generation don't not work as much as the German.
The pension system is a snowball system it will fail sooner or later. I don't really have an idea what they want to do with the refugees, except that it's a tactic to weaken Germany and increase civil unrest which will lead to a coup. Let's face it normal people like Slavs,Anglos, French and so on are compatible with Germans. Not Muslims or blacks.
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>>136140809
>what do they want with rapefugees
Do i have to spell it to you?Your leaders are so fucking greedy that paying 800€ for hungarian and polish workforce is too much so they decided they go full retard and invite young strong niggers who will work for 2€/year.
And they really fucking believed that these niggers are coming to work for 2€/year.
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>>136140174
>>136140410

Unironically shill this. You will succeed in getting this aflame.
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>>136124178
based
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>>136124151
so OP likes to get replaced by sub saharan muslim invaders, nice
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>>136124151
>joining the workforce, paying taxes, and helping pay for pensions
Good one. Good luck with that.
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>>136124151
slavery ended in America over 200 years ago and its still almost impossible to get black men to work and pay taxes. We cant even get them educated without throwing out more qualified white males with better work ethic.
Its so very sad that so much of the world can't see that the elite want to replace the population that has the ability to think critically and with self determination because they want to rule of weak minded sheep that are easy to control because its much more difficult to rule over strong willed, intelligent humans
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>>136124151
Doesn't matter if the population rises through migration, they're not German and never will be
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>>136141006
If you really believe that politicians are stupid then you are stupid. They are perfectly aware that Arabs don't work. You just need to look at Saudi Arabia, even fucking Arabs themselves say that. They don't have to work, they slurp sweet sweet oil money instead. Niggers are lazy too, they will either do shitty rap or sell drugs. If we go by the narrative of doctors and engineers then Germany is doing brain draining which is illegal and a reason for a conventional war.

That's why my opinion is that they want to create civil unrest. The want to build up tensions. Inside the workers, society, political parties and so on. Nobody is going to work for a few cents while paying 50% in taxes.

https://youtu.be/NYQ29xMQU-o
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>>136141896
>politicans are not stupid,you are stupid reee
http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/15/refugees-may-be-germany-s-next-economic-miracle-says-daimler-boss
Yeah,Hans,that retard really just compared rapefugees with Silicon Valley.
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>>136141896
This Imam is based. If Muslims ever listened to him, watch out!
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>>136124151
You never notice that when they speak of economics, they have to speak of immigration.

Its almost like they have huge debts they can never pay off unless the ponzi scheme continues, but I suppose you think it better to destroy your own culture than default to the kikes..
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>>136142170
Some will have to work and Daimler is going to milk them.
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>>136143468
Hahaha.Yes,Hans,yes.Daimler is going to milk them.Its not like mutti will pay with your taxmoney to establish a potemkin-style workforce so you can keep dreaming about muh smart politicans.
Face it,ya'll are fucked forever.
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OP conveniently missed this part out of the article;

>Of course, those people still need to be integrated into the workforce. The headline figures aren’t promising: Only 9% of migrants who arrived in 2015 have found a job so far, according to a German Institute for Employment Research (IAB) survey, cited by HSBC.

>But HSBC’s analysts argue that most of these migrants are currently in training programs and Germany’s education system is well-equipped to train people on both academic and vocational paths. For the latter it has apprenticeship systems that train people in bulk for jobs the economy needs. So there should soon be a glut of workers ready to help Germany.

>“The litmus test” will be whether those people are ready to get to work when the training programs come to an end, warns the report. However, it says, German unemployment is so low, at 3.9%, that the country can withstand a rise in unemployment if not all the new trainees can immediately find work.
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>>136143942
Nah, the economy is trying to lower the working class further. Employers are already talking about removing minimum wage for them. In fact we both agree that we are fucked.
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>>136124178
norbro saves the thread, almost everytime
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>>136142810
Exactly. Macro economics is all justification for more central planning and inefficiency. Fuck authoritarians and Fuck Jews.
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>>136144283
Get mad.Burn them down.All of them.Leave no survivors.
Thats your only chance.
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>>136124151
Sure. Let's call it a work.
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>>136127601
Give me one source of this. One

And not one that says they "will" do this once here, but one that says that these new migrants that have been here since around 2013 at the earliest have done any such shitty job
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There is literary a country with over 40 mln citizens who would be grateful for any opportunity to live and work in Germany - why Merkel didn't import young Ukrainians is beyond my comprehension. Then there is Belarus with circa 10 mln. It's especially bafling since around 2007-9 there was that German bestseller written by Thilo Sarazzin - a politacian from the socialist SPD (sic!) who proved that Muslim immigration was a net loss for the German state. Even Merkel announced the failure of multi-culti in 2010.
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>>136133870
It's not incompetence. We have found too much implicit collusion to believe that. It's intentional and malicious.
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>>136124178
Nordbro, the salvation of /pol/
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>>136124151
>that headline
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>>136127601
Ahmed please join us back in reality you inbred sand nigger
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>>136124151
>we need muh immigrants to pay for welfare for old people
What happens when immigrants get old?
>we don't think that too far into the future

bunch of r-selected cucks... populations aren't meant to be exponentially expanding to sustain your ponzi schemes.
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>>136134671
>MORE WEALTH PER PERSON, MORE RESOURCES AND MORE TIME AND WELFARE

And how in the world will my leftist party win elections if that happens?
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>>136133365
If y'all finna replying to dis thread then answer my question niggas
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>>136124151
Your immigrants don't work. Your an idiot and Europe is a stain on the white race.11% of you are Semitic anyway which is worse than the US were 2.5% of whites are Semitic. Your birth rate is 1.2 and your all liberal.
>Europe is a joke
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>>136145470
>bafling
baffling*

also I made a mistake - his surname is Sarrazin, not Sarazzin, anyway - this is what he said:
>Integration requires effort from those that are to be integrated. I will not show respect for anyone who is not making that effort. I do not have to acknowledge anyone who lives by welfare, denies the legitimacy of the very state that provides that welfare, refuses to care for the education of his children and constantly produces new little headscarf-girls. This holds true for 70 percent of the Turkish and 90 percent of the Arab population in Berlin.[24][25][26]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thilo_Sarrazin

And remember that this guy is a socialist
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>>136142170
Telling lies is not the same as being stupid.
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>>136146433
Another quotation:
>He has also said regarding Islam, “No other religion in Europe makes so many demands. No immigrant group other than Muslims is so strongly connected with claims on the welfare state and crime. No group emphasizes their differences so strongly in public, especially through women’s clothing. In no other religion is the transition to violence, dictatorship and terrorism so fluid.”[27]
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>>136124151
>the UN now predicts that the German population will rise to 83 million in 2020, from around 81 million currently, after previously being estimated to drop to 80 million. Germany’s fertility rate rose to a 33-year high

Replacement.

But the work stats is Germany are as dismal as they are here. After 15 years half have had "some" form of employment. This isn't a net gain, the only reason economies are turning up is the massive debt being plowed into services and housing for these people.

If you think pissing money into services to raise GDP = steady growth, why the fuck did we need migrants to do it? Just give your own citizens that money. We've been wanting better quality of services for years, but only get cutbacks. One migrant crisis completely manufactured and suddenly our lending limit is bottomless.
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>>136124151
The pension meme needs to die. Fuck off and open a savings account
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>>136139689
>they don't give two shits if the refugees get a job, they just want them to rape and murder europeans
Damn, that's pretty much right to the point. It really is that simply. The upper echelon are legit traitors trying to exterminate the native population. Of course, the natives won't believe it until it's already too late.
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>>136127851
does the amount working offset the drain by the majority that choose not to work but the state now has to provide for anyways
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>>136141896
>If you really believe that politicians are stupid then you are stupid. They are perfectly aware that Arabs don't work.
This is true. Babby's first redpill is when they see that unfettered immigration from the 3rd world is a problem and an necessary one at that. It takes a deeper level of maturity to understand that politicians are well aware of all of this, yet do it anyways. It is no mistake.
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