/ptg/ PRESIDENT TRUMP GENERAL - "America's 17th Line

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How can RAISE even compete?

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brutal

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>>136116298

Holy shit have you guys seen Tucker vs the California guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-F8rtwtFtI

His fucking face starting 7:45 is amazing.

>>136116298
fuck off to reddit

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AWOO~

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It's all over.

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What did God mean by this?

>>136116467
Thats a shield protecting Trump. Now he can attack

>>136116401


Hi /sg/ BASED MUDSLIMES AMIRIGHT

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>>136116467
President Trump is literally on a mission from God.

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God is on our side. Who, in the right mind, will oppose us?

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Good morning guys.
>>136116467
Wow, that looks cool.

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Fuck! This place is dead. That means i can post anything.

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>>136116467
all right, that's enough of that

>>136116467
>What did God mean by this?
God is making it clear that She wants the LGBT+ flag to flay over The Peoples House.

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guys...it's over for us...how will we recover?

>>136116839
Thank you, Mr Pence.

>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-vatican-idUSKBN1AK06K
>Pope 'loves China', Vatican official says on trip to China
Can someone tell this kike prototype?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_against_Communism
>The Decree Against Communism was a 1949 Catholic Church document issued by the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, and approved by Pope Pius XII, which declared Catholics who professed Communist doctrine to be excommunicated as apostates from the Christian faith.

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>>136116467

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>>136116858
Lol. Germany what a dick. Its still funny

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>>136116901
fuck...

...game over, man

>>136116826
post more "anything"

>>136116442
Gorka has been "embattled", "on the way out", "doomed" and generally packing his shit and clearing out his desk for 6 months. Fuck off.

>>136116351
Good luck with that McCain, you idiot.

>>136116467
That this Sessions session at 11AM better be good (5 burgers)

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>>136116442
can these people even function without ever bringing up the nazis? ffs, I am kinda hoping someone even worse comes along, just for these kind of people

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>>136117085
Don't screw this up Jeff!

fuck drumpf and fuck awoopeople

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Jobs!

>>136116467


Genesis 9:17

"Then God said to Noah, "Yes, this rainbow is the sign of the covenant I am confirming with all the creatures on earth."


The gays stole it from the Christians and made it a symbol of their degeneracy.

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>>136116826
Yes. Yes you can.

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>>136117185

Fuck Obama and fuck leftist faggots.

>>136116351
>my grandpa died yesterday after his condition became better
>this faggot continues to live

Please God just end McCain already

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This girls badass

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>>136117240
>that one Thanks Obama comment

>https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2017/08/03/watch-bruce-willis-death-wish-twitter-calling-alt-right-eli-roth/536641001/
The only retarded thing about the old movies is that there was diversity of criminals in the 70s when they should mostly be niggers.
And since it will mostly be the same thing now, why are they complaining?

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>>136117322
Mccain goes to either heaven or hell
Battle of angels and demons begins.

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>>136116442

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>>136117328
powergirl gets overpowered on pornhub

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>>136117415
>mccain goes to heaven

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>>136117442

>>136117415
I now have a deep hatred for mccain more than I did before, my grandfather was better for a day then died all of a sudden. I'm angry. Why the fuck is McCain alive?

>>136117240
Kek, they'll be trying to give credit to Obama for all 8+ years of Trump

How long until they give Obama credit for exiting TPP? Kek

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Fuck! Im still drinking ant its 5am here. Rough night

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Newsweek's cover!

> ‘Trump is on the knife edge of DEATH’ North Korea demands SURRENDER from US

>NORTH Korea has demanded Donald Trump “wave the white flag now” as it promised to deliver “gift packages” to the US.
A guy seriously have to believe himself to say something like this.

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>>136117564
They love him and they know it. They have to stop being tsundere for their senpai and just ask him out

>>136117564
Newsweek just showing that Trump is one of us.

Not some faggot Obama doing gayboi cardio and shoving celery up his ass.

>>136116351
If only someone knew a good brain surgeon
To "fix" this problem...

>>136117633


He thinks we won't touch him, and he'll be dead right if this was Obongo. But it isn't.

>>136117564

>will a natural occurrence be an unnatural disaster?

What did they mean by this?

>>136117634
They kind of got swept up by obama to when they declares," Were All Socialists Now".

I need it.

>>136117564


How is that objective journalism? Their biased Anti Trump agenda is so petty even 2 years old can see and understand it.

>>136117694
Kivorkian

>>136117377
Looks fucking terrible, but I can't think of a more well worn Hollywood trope.
>Twitterati complaining about the flavor of their mind control. This timeline, I swear.
Don't like the (((Product)))? Don't buy it.

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>>136117251
>"God, said Winthrop, having "smitten all the other Churches before our eyes" had reserved America for those whom He meant "to save out his general callamitie", as he had once sent the ark to save Noah. The new land was certainly a part, perhaps the climax, of redemptive history; America was divine prophecy fulfilled.
>Arthur Schlesinger Jr., Cycles of American History

>>136117847
Fuck off, Joe.
He should be hanging himself once that governor turned rep.

>>136117847
more copper wires to sell to feed your alcohol addiction?

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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/donald-trump-has-taken-more-vacation-days-in-7-months-as-obama-did-in-8-years/amp/

>>136117432
He may be a genius...
>Cosmopolitan is code for Crypto-Marxist Dung Beetle.

>>136117085
>>136117185

Can I get some bumps in here? >>136116932

>>136118002
that's a straight up lie. that nigger vacationed every other week

>>136117415
SAY YOUR LINE!

>>136117889
Well, it`s my favorite actor after Clint Eastwood and John Wayne, it`s also one of my favorite infancy movies, and today it`s my birthday so seeing they are bitching about it already makes me happy and I consider it a present.
But I don`t watch new movies.

>>136117958
Wouldnt you know it. Hes the one who sold out. If i was in his cell id gets some sheets and twist them and hang him from the top bar.

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The Wall is "the least important thing we are talking about" - Donald J. Trump

He's not building a wall. He lied to you. He - lied - - to - you. He's still lying to you. When are you rubes going to get that through your thick heads?

>>136117564
I'm really get sick of this shit

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POTUS IS AWAKE AND TWEETING

>>136118059
And Trump vacations EVERY week. Do the math.

tick tock drumpfkins mueller is coming for your 'god emperor'

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>>136118151
STOP REPORTING THE NEWS DONALD YOU DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT

#T-THANKS OBAMA

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>>136117958
Reminder that John McCain was not a war hero, he was never tortured, and he did not serve admirably.

>>136117564
Leftoid establishment equivalent of crying in yer pretzels.
>Grief stage... weepy.

>>136118151
(citation needed)

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>>136117564
Full moon AND a solar eclipse on Monday. Get hyped.

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>>136118002
Obongo can go suck Michelles banana.

>>136118181
Source?

>>136118181
proof?

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Remember, the media elites think middle Americans are all retards.

>>136118124
>"the least important thing we are talking about"
Among the other things, are you retarded?
The wall is being built and you will be kicked over it, fake american.

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>When jews try to use Jesus to tell you how to think

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>>136118169
The Don is making his rounds.

>anyone have the sleep to WOKE shaq image?

>>136118352
jesus would come at her with a whip

>>136118225
Scroll up, fool.
>>136117240

>>136118352
>jews hiding behind Hesus after nailing him on a cross
the audacity of these people

>>136118338
>my wife's dad
Kek "my wife's ___" always cracks me up now

Do they not know that we're just gonna kill them if they try this Mueller bullshit?

>>136118444
Yeah that's pretty audacious tbqh they should keep Jesus' name out they mouth

>>136118352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XUXQGpxqY
oh god the voice

>>136118211
He was like the nigger in "Missing in Action 2" that made friends with guards and helped the VCs?
But at the end instead of killing the jungle chinks and dying, he turned and killed the good guys.

>>136118471
They don't have any other options but shooting first.

>>136118471
Sh shh we are a board of peace dude cmon now

>>136118181
Southrn white house. Workation?

>>136118002
This is the new line then? Trump is lazy?
>Fuck, that's weak.

>>136118338

>provincial

Ah the effete way to say "ignorant" and the very pinnacle of smug pseudo intellectual virtue signalling.

If only his wife's dad had taught her to avoid faggots and marry a real man.

This is "my black friend" level bigotry but it's (((numale trainer))) vs. real people.

>>136118352
Even Jesus had his limits

>>136118608
Kek they went from

>He's hitler!
To
>He's Stalin's puppet!
To
>He's Al Bundy!
Kek

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Really makes me think

>>136118352
>He went to ICE to tell them he got a college scholarship.

Why did he go to ICE to tell them that? Is he dumb?

>>136118697
Jesus told him

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Hold me /ptg/...it's over....my fucking god!!

>>136118696
Miller is truly a great friend of Americans.

>>136118696

>immigrant policy from the 1800s and early 1900s should never be changed

The argument isn't only weak as shit, it's retarded. Of course American policy is subject to change. That's the entire fucking point.

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>>136118338

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>>136118608
>>136118685
Lazy Hitler! Trump will enact the Holosnooze

>>136118338
" my wifes dad was an idiot". Remember Obama throwing his grandma under the bus? She was a " typical white woman". These people are fucking evil,evil people.

>>136118696
I know it`s a sin but I want this woman dead.

>>136118807
You see he's hitler! But he is lazy, so like he will only genocide maybe 10-20k ppl total.

t SJW retard

>>136118762
HE PLAYED ACOSTA LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE

>>136118338
Why is it always a Jew?? I'M FUCKING SCARED

>>136118820
Guess I'm going to hell because I sure wish death on plenty of these fuckers

So.. Were libcucks actually mad over the tranny military ban? Since when do they care about the military?

>>136118685
He'd like to be an autocrat, but he's shit at it. Definitely compromised but incapable of accomplishing anything regardless.

>>136118820
No, she's a Jew you're supposed to want her dead, Romans 1:32

>>136118884
when they were destroying it with transsexuals and

>>136118884
They care about destroying our institutions and making them ineffective.

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Are Americans God's new chosen people? Is American the new 'promised land'? Is Trump the new Moses?

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>>136118839
Kek very funny anon. I laughed. Thanks i needed a laugh.

>>136118820
I want all jews dead , the world would genuinenly be a better place if these infant dick sucking heebs wouldn't exist.

>>136118940
Basically none of the military was happy about it, they need every body they can get willing to die for them.

>>136118696
isn't this implying that Miller's greatgrandparents were low skilled useless pieces of shit who couldn't even speak English?

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Remember the 6,000 goy!

>>136119032
Maybe. It was common enough, generally.

>>136119026
I guarantee you asked no one in the military kike, now fuck off.

>>136118973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG5inw9LHr0

>>136119107
Fuckin silverman man she's a busted old skank isn't she

ALL RIGHT CUNTS. How do you make a webm?

>new tweet posted 3 minutes ago
>no one with a screencap

PTG IS DEAD

>>136119107
Wow exactly 6000 too.

Al jazeeras getting lazy

>>136119107
muslims and jews bad news

>>136119198
>>/g/

>>136119170
A fair number of military folk I pay attention to voiced their displeasure, and most weren't any kind of liberal to begin with.

>>136119198
https://cloudconvert.com/

>>136119271
Fuck off.

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>>136119198

literally google Webm for retards

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Really makes you think...

>The Senate gave final approval Thursday to a measure backed by Sen. Chris Van Hollen that would speed approval of cancer drugs for children.
>The bipartisan measure, approved by the House in July, was attached to legislation that will allow the Silver Spring-based Food and Drug Administration to continue to collect fees from pharmaceutical companies to pay for drug reviews.

>The Senate passed the bill 94-1, with independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont the only ‘no’ vote.

>>136119227

(YOU)

>>136119408
>busting

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>>>/co/94397482

Come look at how butthurt /co/ is

>>136119408
>tfw Mazda will make their windshields decent again

>>136119359
Bernie voted against it? What a hypocritical fucking kike.

>>136119271
Was in the army. Everybody said fuck that shit. We have more pressing issues like killing fucking people, and staying alive.

>>136119437
regulations BUSTED

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Your sides are now in orbit.

>>136119467
You'd think he'd want kids to live to grow up, go to college, get ripped off by his wife, while they vote for him.

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>Still tweeting about his election win


this is a sad sad little man

>>136119494
Fuck that's good

>>136119457
Who the fuck cares about these neckbeards?

>>136119494
>that colorado / new mexico cancer zone

>>136119494
just saw that fucking rt, bursted out loud

>>136119504
No anon, he wants the fucking drug money for himself. How else does he pay his wife's legal fees?

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bustin makes me feel good

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>>136119457
>/co/

who the hell cars

>>136117377
>https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2017/08/03/watch-bruce-willis-death-wish-twitter-calling-alt-right-eli-roth/536641001/

>Bruce Willis
>Triggering leftshit retards

Well now I know what movie I'm actually seeing next, thanks!

>>136119565
sort yourself out

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>>136119494
Oh my god DONALD NO!

>>136119494
I was worried he'd stop shitposting once he became president. Was.

>>136116298
ptg must cease to exist
libertarians must fucking die
sargon, spencer, milo need to be tortured to death
trump needs to be executed
america must burn for its sins

>>136119520
No the press hasnt covered it yet. There still waiti g on Pennslvania.

>>136119556
https://youtu.be/gneOsRw2XyY
https://youtu.be/gneOsRw2XyY
Skip to 45 seconds

>>136119575
Don't give the Hollywood Jew money, just pirate it.

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>>136116351
This cunt can't die soon enough. He's on a short path of spiteful destruction but good news is after he finally dies Trump will continue to crush his war-mongering neocon shit of a party while I'm pissing on his grave

>>136119494
Wait, the retweet is to one of his replies..

oh dog, this means he reads the replies to his tweets, which Twitter now artificially makes negative. D:

>>136119575
Yup, I'll take the whole senpai to see it then thnx

>>136119639
ghost is good, kek.

>>136119457


Kek some of them are butthurt but most are shitting on the horrible Trump parodies.

>>136116937
No surprise, these fucking marxists spout their libtard rhetoric, then go suck the dick of chi-coms who reject every ounce of it

>>136119689
The guy might've bypassed the algorithm since there was a whole chain of pictures. Cernovich and Mark Dice regularly spam the replies with stuff so they can get on top.

>>136117564

>Up and tweeting about politics every 5am
>Flying to every part of the world shucking and jiving for deals almost every day
>Makes time to visit the American people too
>Securing jobs all over the place, has transformed ICE
>Thatlist.jpg
>Whipping lazy congress who is only interested in protecting the status quo every day, firing underperformer

"Lazy"

I hate our media with the heat of every star in the universe right now.

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Lawl

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>this thread

>West Virginia was incredible last night. Crowds and enthusiasm were beyond, GDP at 3%, wow!Dem Governor became a Republican last night.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/893420123641479168

>>136119815
>wow!

>>136119798
Screencap or archive

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>yfw you substitute having a powerful military for having an actual country with stakes in the long term

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>>136116467
The rainbow is literally a symbol of God's love in the bible.

A bolt of lightning also struck Trump Tower when he won something during the campaign.

>>136119798
>Dem Governor became a Republican last night.
Trans-Republican rights are human rights!

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>>136119457
i still miss the gewn posting anon why do you have to remind me i miss hydra as well

>>136119815
Who is Donald Jay Trump? He has a funny orange face.

>>136118338
>misled into voting against someone who said she would destroy their main industry
Gee, I wonder how that could have happened?

>>136119846
I'll never tire of his shitposting style

NEW

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>>136119909
FUCK

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>*speeds into walmart on a turbo fast 50cc mobility scooter and occupies the frozen food isle from a family of orphans*
Eh... nothing personal kids.
>*does a 180 and reveals shitstained American flag underwear*

>>136119868
epic!

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>>136117240
>nothing to do with Trump.
Perhaps. But he still gets the credit for it.

>GRAND
>JURY

n-nothing to worry about amirite megapedes? hillary's emails, debbie noodles btfo any day now right? ahaha......

>>136119951

I think they were being sarcastic.

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136119794
I get more (you)s when I'm bored and not even trying. This is just pathetic, but what do you expect from a brit?

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>"A-and that's why the First *pukes up undigested roast chicken* Amendment will protect us, Travis."

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>>136118338
Ah those filthy closed-minded goyim are so stupid, they must listen to me for them to figure out their best interests!!

>>136119868
Some retired wrestling faggot

>>136119815
If growth goes to 4% the games over. At 4 every american will see the ecomy exploding.

>>136120061
JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!

I miss that Finland poster that would make up stories about "Drumpf" they were so stupid that they were hilarious, he put hard work into them

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Trump is the best President we've had in at least 50 years.

>>136117958
Woah...I didn't know she was a Mccain supporter! I wonder if she voted for him in 2008.

You think Sessions actually will reveal anything worthwhile tomorrow?

>>136120108
True and less people unenployed means employers willing to pay more for good employees then snowball

>>136120196
>b-b-but they aren't stealing your jobs!

>>136120131
>>136120178
Isn't that illegal to have in good ole bongistan?

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>>136120178

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>everyone ITT

>>136120223
Stop namefagging

>>136119931
Here's a reply my friend.

>>136120266
Its in 4 burgers and 15 fries

Idk let's see

I sort of want to say no, but then, it looks like Trump isn't going to try and make big waves today, chill schedule, as if he wants to let Sessions make news today.

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>>136120331
Stop your life.

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IMPERIAL ANTHEM OF THE HOLY AMERICAN EMPIRE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW2U-dL8hNQ

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>>136120306
>The proposal revives an idea that was included in broader immigration legislation supported by President George W. Bush in 2007 but that failed in Congress. Republican supporters argued that it would modernize immigration policy that had not been updated significantly in half a century, but critics in both parties contended it would harm the economy by keeping out workers who filled low-wage jobs that Americans did not want.
>jobs that Americans did not want.
>did not want

Yeah, I don't particularly want my job. But I'm doing it anyway. And I'd prefer a higher wage and more job security.

>>136120366
Neck yourself

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>this thread

>>136116378
"bloo bloo, we're a burden"
Literally a child throwing a hissy fit, locking himself in his room, and declaring "and I'm NEVER coming out!"

>>136120229
Pandering to democrats is the true conservative way
They still hate him, they still would never vote for him, and most of them are non-whites who hate America/whites.... but hey, at least people like him now!

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Fake news have gotten so bad and so out of hand that I've tuned out completely now.

So has anything real happened lately?

Please don't give me any fake news.

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Brits
>kill their sick babies as to not negatively effect the gene pool
Americans
>raise their half nigger sons until adulthood

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>>136120223
Both Dimmwits and Republicucks trying to stop him.

Pictured: Average day for Trump

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My sides!, fuck me.

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>>136119932
Kek

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>everyone ITT

>>136120420
They use this 'jobs Americans do not want' line as a means to really say, we don't want to pay people so let's import quasi slave labor.

>>136120548
I'm tired of pretending monkeys are people

>>136119932
>A study, which looked at 160,000 adults in England between 1992 and 2010, found that a quarter of men and a third of women with an existing high body mass index (BMI) – a measure of weight in comparison to height – remain susceptible to substantial weight-gain.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2408931/Britains-obese-continue-weight-despite-drop-nations-overall-obesity-rate.html#ixzz4omaErhxl
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Don't get too cocky there, Rupert. You Teas are catching up soon.

>>136120266
No, he's only doing this to secure his job. Facts don't care about your feelings, r/the_donald

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>everyone in this thread

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>>136120609
>(((Goldstein)))
>(((Anne Frank Center)))
>Doesn't actually say anything
>Oy Vey it's annudah Shoah

The helicopter rides can't come fast enough.

>>136119857
I'm actually surprised at how good this is considering it's just the typical nigger south plus mexicans in the west.

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>>136120625
>You in a nutshell

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Collins getting friendly with CNN, obviously there McCain replacement when they need a RHINO to shit on things.

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>yfw you steal british legislation and create a country which goes on to ruin 4chan

>>136120711
What do you accomplish by posting this bullshit nine times in a row, you fucking idiot? Look at my flag, am I American?

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>circumcised rats ITT

>>136120775
I'm sending hatemail to these cunts

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>everyone ITT

>>136118743
this -->

>>136120548
((Reporter))Argueing adamately for the democratic side. Journalism?

>>136120441
Why'd you post a picture of London?

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>>136120639
this is the end of shillary's campaign

>>136120929
Probably best if we don't give Muhammad attention, it's the only reason he posts.

>>136120929
Hehe kek

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OP here

I'm going. Cya

>>136117958
>T. Someone who probably called him a Nazi in 2008

>>136120933
>checked
and it was

>>136119857
Feels good to be midwest

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>everyone ITT supports this

oy vey listen up shabbos goy NO CRITICISING THE HOLY LAND, YOU HEAR ME?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK7NKX9fkFQ

>>136121049
Of course it's a dump, a bunch of niggers just left.

He's probably still trying to get the smell out.

>>136121080
>Stephen miller
>Not /ourjew/

>>136121014
Thanks OP do something good today

>>136121049
someone post her deleted tweets at her
stupid affirmative action big mouth sheboon cunt. grow some hair bitch

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>your country

>>136121049
I thought they said they didnt want him wearing a jerrycurl.

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>>136119857
Better map, shill-kun.

>>136119857
How the fuck is texas still red?

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>everyone ITT

>>136121219
Lol , the US is fucked.

>>136121293
Wierd thing is alot of mexicans in Texas are republicans.

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Baboon Brainset has SPOKEN

>>136121293
Whites vote >70% Republican.
Whites make up 42% of the population but 57% of all voters.
Hispanics vote only D+27 instead of D+36 like the rest of the country.
>>136121392
Kek not really.

>>136121416
>big if true!

>>136121416
Stop posting this retard, he's not even funny as a meme

>>136121416
Baboon Brainset? That's not the name of his book. What's the name of his book, again?

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>>136121219
>West Virginia

>>136121416

I wish he'd just stick to true stuff

he seems to have a legit source or two but then he spouts drivel that does nothing but discredit him

>>136121465
Well. Ones i know or meet but i prob dont meet your average wetback

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>>136121501

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*sniffs*
*grunts*

McMaster is basic bitch, his mind is mush, he lacks courage, he lacks discipline, he lacks...The Gorilla Mindset

>>136121526
Fun fact: Whites outbreed every single other race and ethnicity in WV and they generally have a higher birth rate than the average white in the US.
If they weren't dying/leaving in droves, WV would be on course to become the whitest state in the US.

>>136121565
You probably live in a suburb where they only vote like 55% Democrat to 45% Republican. City spics and Southern Spics vote far more Democrat.

>>136121661
Your ID...

>>136121684
Luckily, not a K right about CUC.

>>136121661
The flag matches the ID, finally!

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>>136120609
Is this satire?

>>136121619
Hey. Im from Missouri. Look outside kc st. Louis, very white and we have atleast 2 or3 white children per family

>>136121783
Your whites have as many babies as Texan whites, with a fertility rate of about 1.8.

>>136121757
The "Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect" failing to mutually respect a man who disagrees with their views seems pretty legit to me!

>>136121661
True and i mainly know military mexicans who hate ellegals and hate SJW bullshit.

>>136121757
Anne Frank Center is 10 niggers in a basement writing bullshit, it`s like /leftypol/.

>>136121901
It`s a leftist organization composed by 10 people that have nothing to do with the european organization.

>>136121936
Yeah, if it wasn't for the niggers, TX could be red even at 30% white.

>>136121850
Damn i thought it would be more.

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>>136120625

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>>136121901
WEW

>>136122003
I'm the Executive Director of the "Martin Luther King Jr's Dream Institute for love and respect of all races nationalities and creeds", and I am telling you to FUCK OFF, NIGGER

>>136122011
Hey Germany, i was checking my family tree and they came from Alsace in i think like 1850 or something. Do you know any tidbits about that area?

>>136122184
>I-i`m sorry m-master, I didn`t knew you were an authority.
Fuck off.

>>136122214
I know that area. Nice people, relatively rural and not too many muslims or other non-whites yet.

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>>136120915

>>136121014
> OP here
> I'm going. Cya
Baking

>>136122307
Yes my family was mainly rural. When they came to the US they went strait to farming in Missouri. Build a general store in between st. Louis and kc. Pretty productive people.

>>136122642
>>136122642
>>136122642

MEW NEW NEW

>>136122551
Nice to hear man. Missouri seems to be a very nice state demographically and politically. And pretty quiet too.

>>136117553
Just like King Nigger blamed Bush for everything bad for 8 years........