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Why are younger people choosing not to buy or even ride moto

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Why are younger people choosing not to buy or even ride motorcycles as much as they used to, /pol/? In the US, motorcycle sales fell 2.1% in 2016, and "heavy" motorcycle sales (bikes with 600cc engines or bigger) collapsed by over 6%. Now, Harley-Davidson is in trouble due to dropping sales:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/harley-davidson-earnings-us-retail-sales-expected-to-decline-in-the-second-quarter-2017-07-17

Why are Millennials failing to keep the motorcycle tradition alive - a tradition that has lasted for a century?
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>>136107448
Because they prefer the safety of a car over the freedom of a bike.
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>>136107448
I like drifting corners at 120 mph and not being the douche that emergency crews have to scrape off the pavement
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>>136107448
need a special license to drive a motorcycle
have to buy a vehicle that can only be used half of the year
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"Cause they're pussays!
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>>136107844
>that can only be used half of the year
Maybe if you're some kind of pussy, though that would explain the decline in motorcycle usage, seeing as this generation is a bunch of pussies.
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>>136107448

It's a hobby, not a legitimate mode of transportation.

My bike has sat in my driveway for a year because I've had better things to do. Don't get me wrong, it's great. But yeah. It's a hobby that you have to invest extra time and money in beyond just having a car.
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>>136107448
I mean, I'm getting a Kawasaki Ninja 650 on Saturday.

IDK, I don't like cruisers or Harley Davidson much, too. They break down all the time, and I just don't like the style of the bikes.

Not to mention most Millennials are pussies and Liberals. Riding a bike is manly and badass. They're scared of loud noises, it reminds them and gives them PTSD from hearing something similar to guns going off from the movies they've seen.
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>>136107985
>a hobby
Nope. I use my bike 9 mos of the year as my primary transportation. I can even go grocery shopping with it.
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>>136108112
>9 months

Ha

Driving fast in the rain is like the best bro
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>>136108110
Fucking this!!!
HDs spend more time getting fixed than on the road
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>>136108112
Nice old man bike, dude. You must be at least 40.
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>>136107448
"WHY ARENT YOU BUYING X PRODUCT GOY?"
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>>136107448
Everyone I know buys and sells bikes on Craigslist . You'd be dumb to buy a brand new bike. Not to mention the fact Harley's have 70 year old technology and commonly cost over $20k
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>>136108110
Ultra-quiet bikes are an interesting niche. Like Honda Goldwings with extra muffling to make them even quieter. Apparently they were the preferred motorcycle of hitmen in various Latin countries because you could avoid making noise as you fled.
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>>136107448
Cos pic related.

The new r1 is boring, Hondas cbr range is boring, bmw is gay, ducati is Audi.

We need real bikes again, like pic related. And two strokes
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>>136107448
id buy a bike if there wasnt so much fucking traffic
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>>136108254
Naw man I'm 54. It's too fast and powerful for old men. It certainly is for you.
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Because Generation Pussy.

End of Message
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got a 82 fxr harley for the weekends cause muh stupid fucking collecter plates but i save around 600$ a year so its alright then i ride a 1999 Suzuki marauder for my day to day. i like it its a lil cheap bike and its good on gas and it doesn't look too bad.
dont have a car yet nor do i plan on getting one soon
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>>136108611
>Quiet bikes are cool!
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>>136108611
Yes let's ride silent bikes and triple our chance of getting runover by a dumb chink
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>>136108713
You've got good taste. I am lucky enough to have written an RG500 and an RC30 back in the 80s. Now those were motorcycles. Absolutely amazing stuff.
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>>136107448
Harley's are for old men, and motorcycles are inherently dangerous as fuck, I grew up racing karts and I would not buy a motorcycle i'd kill my self or get killed on the street.
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>>136109057
Rg500 was fun.
I gave up riding, there's too much traffic and too many speed cams.
Used to go out on a sunday it was quiet and you could ride fast, no chance now.
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>>136107448
In europé, they've made it expensive af + you have to be at leadt 25 years old to get a license for 1000cc bikes.
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If you ride a bike in the city it has to be a Sunday drive type thing, too much traffic and too many people that don't know how to drive.

Sold my 600 Gixxer cuz I crashed and was out of a job and needed the money. When I sell one of my cars going to buy a 2007 750 Gixxer.
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>>136109057
Cheers! Motorcycles seemed to have peaked back then, before cuckafornia and (((Japan))) banned anything fun.

The rg500 must've been absolutely insane, I'd love to get my hands on something like that..

It's a sad state of affairs when only based ktm is still rocking the two smokes :(

T. Husqvarna cr125, 98 r1 (the widow maker!)
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>>136107448

motorcycles are the Japanese revenge for Hiroshima, thousands of quadraplegics would agree
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>>136107448
Alright mate, I honestly can't tell if your daily, flimsy millennial bashing threads are parody or serious.
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motorcycles are for obnoxious faggots

why does something that has 2 wheels and enough power to carry the weight of 2 persons have to be fucking louder than a truck with 18 wheels and the power to haul fucking tons?

why? because bikers are fucking obnoxious faggot assholes you should knock to the side of the road
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>>136107448
>Why are younger people choosing not to buy or even ride motorcycles as much as they used to, /pol/?
I'm broke as shit and can only afford something on craigslist (no way in bloody hell am i going to harvey davidson as my budget is literally only 1500 dollars).
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>>136110066

loud bikes suck, they are like niggers with ghetto blasters
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>>136110288
I like the sound of a Harley.
It's mopeds with the baffles removed that drive me mad.
Loud bikes pass fast, mopeds NURRRGHHHH noise for 3 minutes going past at 25mph flat out.
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Goddamn riding motorcycles is fun. It's not a chore, either you're into bikes and can beat the shit out of them and fix them and build them, or you're not. Cars are cool, bikes are great - personally I hate sitting in shitty California traffic and I can park anywhere I want.

Everything aint for everybody.
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>>136107448
Because they're fucking death traps you retarded degen.
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>>136107448
Just because I have suicidal thoughts and tendencies doesn't mean I want to be a fucking cripple when some retard baby boomer decided to merge without looking

It's happened to me in a fucking car TWICE and you think you're safe on a bike?
Eat a dick faggot I wish more of you boomers had bought one and got what was coming before the new millennia
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>>136107448

Because nobody has the extra cash to spare and nobody that has it wants a Harley.
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>>136107622
This.
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>>136107829
tips for not dying while doing something like that?
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>>136107829
Try crashing a car at 200kph and see whats left of you.
Cager.
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I want one but I have no money to spend. I see a lot of squids though which is kind of disheartening.
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>>136110849
Exaggerate going 60mph max around an extremely wide and open road

>he won't notice I actually meant 120kph
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>>136107448
>Why are younger people choosing not to buy or even ride motorcycles as much

I'll give you a hint:

>women ride less than men do.
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>>136107448
Because we are smart enough to know that when, not if, we get into an motorcycle accident almost guaranteed death. Even if you are the perfect driver, you can't trust the asshole right next to you to be as good.
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Motorcycles and horses man don't you know
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>>136107448
Everybody I know who rides (or in some cases rode) motorcycles has been in a serious accident causing debilitating injuries. That's my reason.
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>>136110955
Three of my biking friends were killed by car drivers.
All under 25 years old at the time.
Real pity.
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>>136107448
because nobody has disposable income and cars are more versatile because they can carry more shit and people so people buy them instead
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>>136110929
You can drift at 200kph if you have massive balls. I'll drag a knee at 200kph+.
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>>136107448
Because they're faggots
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>>136107448
In Paris, it is now forbidden to ride with an old motorcycle. Also, police harrass you constantly if you don't have a standard helmet, gloves, etc. Also men are trannies now.
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Because with the increasing amount of foreign dipshit and braindead mestizos, I'm not even going to risk one of them swerving into me and breaking every bone in my body.

Motorcycles caught on because white people can drive. America isn't white so fuck motorcycles.
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>>136111095
I've lost two. Sorry anon.
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2 strokes "leave them in a puff of smoke"cough cough..
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Too many non-whites on the road. Got t-boned by an illegal once already.
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>>136107448
Cruisers are shit anyway. They deserve to die out.

I do like sports bikes though. But I like sliding around corners in the rain more.
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>>136111111
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>>136111191
MAGA.
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cars used to be slow as fuck. now a honda accord 4 cylinder burns up a muscle car from the 70s like it was a joke.

also they're gay

>hurr its manly to risk bodily injury
uhh ok? sure
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>>136107448
Bikers are easy targets, you can hear them way of the distance.
>>136108110
Exept those jap shits, almost impossible to hit.
But yeah, harley davidson and other loud and long unmanueverable bikes are easy pickings.
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>>136107448
the simple answer is because harley dAvidson sold the fuck out and now makes play things for lawyers and doctors
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>>136111134
Massive balls because the mass was removed from the brain

But I think he was talking about cars
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>>136107976
Because a truck can actually move shit around, or a car can get you from a to b all year round, or because bikes are for the most part needlessly lowd and annoying.
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>>136107622
Pretty much this, cause they prefer to live instead of dying like idiots.
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>>136107448
I don't feel like becoming an organ donor. Also traffic is heavier than in previous decades, along with cops being more stringent on any traffic violations. AALLSSOO spending power after having a 9-5 job is pretty shit compared to previous generations so owning a bike on the side can be expensive. Rather just own a 'puter and jack off to my waifu pillow like a good goy.
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>>136111085
Good thread I was considering getting a bike but Ive been reminded it's retarded especially where I live way too many chinese
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>>136107448


Because modern motorcycles, like Harley Davidsons or those god awful Yamaha sports motorcycles look like shit.

I want one of those vintage 40s, 50s era motorcycles, and those are hard as fuck to come by, at least where I live.
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>>136111881
>I don't feel like becoming an organ donor
What do you mean by this?

Gimme the law that says you must be a organ donor to ride a motorcycle.
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>>136107448
there are way too many people on the roads now
talking with my parents, they both agree that when they were kids there were a lot fewer people on the roads driving

plus today, you have all the old ass boomers driving who can't differentiate the gas pedal and the break, not to mention all the fucking illegal mexicans who get drivers licenses handed to them like candy during halloween.
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>>136107448
younger generations cant afford luxury/hobby vehicles that need a special licence,training,rego, insurance with vastly increased chance of serious injury just from getting around.
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>>136107448
If I fuck up once on a bike I'm dead. That's it.

>you're a pussy
Being concerned with your own survival is rational.
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Who /vtec/ here?

Hands down this is the best bike I've ever owned and it costs fuck all.
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>>136107622
>implying Millennials are buying cars
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>>136111978
Organ donor, organ waster. Don't want to be either you dreary nitpicker.
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I rekon the yamaha R1 looks cool as fuck. But money talks.
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>>136107976
>BMW motorcycle

Lvl 10 fag
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>>136107976
>touring bike
LOOK AT MY MID-LIFE CRISIS. LOOK AT IT!!!
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>>136107448
Bitch, most of Millenials and Gen Z can barely afford their daily lives
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>>136107448
People are being pussified
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>>136107977
>Live in Bellingham Wa right next to the cucknadian border
>70 mph I-5 freeway
>Flooded daily by leafs poos and chinks for commercial commerce
>Now to Al with the weather
>Seasonal snow, typically windy (near the coast) also the famous washington rain
Yea, I think Ill cruise around in my Ford Explorer. 18 mpg but 18 wherever-the-fuck-I-feel-like-driving miles per gallon.
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>>136107448
People who buy vehicles not for the express purposes of transportation are retards.
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I ride a motorcycle because if I had to sit in LA traffic every day of the week I would have shot myself in the head by now.

Oddly though I never recommend people ride and would tell my close friends not to get into it because it is dangerous.
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Mothers forbidding their boys to have a motocycle because the tv told them riding a motocycle is a sure way to be ded.Boy grows up without knowing the thrill of 2 wheels and betafags happen with priuses.
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>>136113534
Motorcycles work great as transport, and they're also fun.
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>>136107985
Wut? I go everywhere on a bike. It's cheaper, faster, funner, more agile and easier to find parking
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>>136108110
Just be careful, lad. Super sports 600s are not for noobs. Fuck cagers.
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>>136108110
>loud things are good and manly

I want to gas everyone who thinks like this. You're no better than the niggers blasting rap music on the street.
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It got associated with mid life crisis pathetic men trying to restore their masculinity with an expensive motorcycle. They would buy biker gear, which they would then start wearing around other places, so people knew how badass you were. These men were taken in by advertising and feel-good stories about how having a crotch rocket restored a mans masculinity and made him harder and cooler than ever before. This midlife crisis is similar to some how older men will buy an expensive bicycle and Lycra, but somewhat less gay, and a lot more expensive.

Then people realised motorcycles weren't that practical either and you were likely to become an organ donor and wouldn't even be considered cool in the process. That all being said you would think high gas prices would have helped drive usage towards them, but apparently not.

Harley Davidson's troubles are more of a result of them sucking cock than the market as a whole.
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>>136107448
ive watched too many gore videos to ever consider riding one
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>>136107448
Unless you want to get wiped out but a fat cunt in an SUV on his/her phone you'll give up biking too.
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>>136107622
Except they'd rather not drive themselves, that'd be dangerous. Public transport is the millennial solution to a problem they don't have.
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here's a solution.

make them cheaper. they'll buy them in droves.
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Because were broke.

Im fortunate to have has my white privilege and got a gixxer 750 when i was 20 and bought another after i totaled it.

But most of us are beta neets. Im bretty beta myself but i ride a motorcycle and doesnt afraid of anything.
Still cant pick up chicks so that tells you how beta i am.
>tfw you have white privilege and poor niggers you pay to feed fuck more white women than you
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>>136107448
Hipster Bubble burst.
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>>136107448
Because i ride an heirloom bike that my father passed to me
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>>136107448
>Why are Millennials failing to keep the motorcycle tradition alive - a tradition that has lasted for a century?

Motorcycle is in the end toy, it isn't practical form of transport. Most millennials don't have disposable income expensive toys, they are paying for their student loans and shieet.

There are basically two kinds of people that buy motorcycles. Young men, there are less of those than there used to be and men with middle age crisis, since babyboomers are now older if they want motorcycle they already probably have one, new people dealing with middle age crisis are gen-x, there are less of those than boomers.

Young men prefer crotchrockets over Harleys. Even if someone wants something similar to Harley, Japanese manufacturers can offer it with better built quality, reliability and cheaper price tag. Only thing that keeps Harley-Davidson alive is brand and drug fueled criminal lifestyle it is associated with. Basically guy who buys Harley is middle aged engineer that regrets that he didn't become hells angel.
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>>136114728

Motorcycles are practically free compared to cars.
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>>136107448
I have my motorcycle license and I had a honda cbr600rr. I stopped riding because I don't trust other drivers. People are morons, too absorbed by their smart phones to pay attention to the road ahead of them. On a country road or riding through the Appalachian mountains on the back of a bike was a thrill like no other. Unfortunately my daily commute has me on interstates and surface streets. Not worth dying because some roastie couldn't stop texting for five seconds.
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>>136114728
Motorbikes are more expensive than cars in Australia?
Even here they're cheaper.
Fuck, that's why the Reliant Robin exists. One front wheel to meet bike certification requirements, so people could actually drive it.
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>>136107985
Bike is my main mode of transportation. Faster, way less gas, cheap maintenance, tou name it. Cheaper even than public transportation.
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>>136119123
holy shit this. So long as there are Mexicans and women on the road driving delivery trucks and utility vans because of the current year, there's no way I'm riding a motorcycle in the city.
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>>136110207
harley's are shit when considering price:performance ratios. They're only good about holding value, and that's not super true any more.

Something like a Honda Shadow is a far superior bike.
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>buy motorbike
>no garage because I'm not a corruot boomer
>bike gets stolen
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Cuz I'm the auto industry's cuck.
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Even back in the 80's I observed that all the people who were longtime motorcycle riders (i.e. had survived doing it for a while) were super careful all the time on the road.

I said to myself, what's the fun in that? Easier to relax and just drive my car. Got an old used 911 for kicks, was an expensive PITA but I didn't take personal risk.
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Pretty much because of the same reason kid playgrounds are covered with foam and floored with rubber. It's all because driving a car is safer than a bike, so it sells quite less; people have now a constant fear of getting hurt. If it has a risk, however minimal is it, people now avoid it, no matter how fun it can be.
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>>136107448
I guess in the US, where roads are large as fuck and you can easily drive your humvee on four lane roads in any city center, two wheeled vehicles aren't a necessity, but rather something you do for your enjoyment.

In yurop, where cities are old and roads are abolutely tiny, it's absolutely impossible to go about your daily life with a car. That's why I ride a motorcycle, albeit it's a 125cc because I don't have a motorcycle license, which is stupid, because the power of the vehicle doesn't change how dangerous it is for you to drive it. But our politicians are retarded motherfuckers who just want an excuse to ban everything they can while taxing the shit out of people at every opportunity.
Anyway, most people here drive on scooters, the market for 125 keeps increasing every year.
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Used to work in an Emergency Room. There is no amount of money you could pay me to ever get on a motorbike after I saw some of those injuries. They are grossly and disproportionately dangerous. An accident that would result in minor injuries in a car ends up being either fatal or results in horrific injuries on a bike.
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>>136107448

Motor cycles are manual
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>>136107448
After my father started working in HEMS, he sold his bike soon...
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I'll be acquiring one of these this year.

Nothing like trail riding.
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>>136107448
How's that debt based economy going, Jews?
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>loud
>stupid
>dangerous
>cant be used to buy grocieries cuz no room
>expensive af for what is basically a bicycle with a motor
>most faggots who buy the really big ones have big self esteem issues
>fuck up once while drive and you are 100% dead

na m8 i just buy some random shitty car that costs just half as much
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>>136107448
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>>136107448
LiveLeak taught them some lessons.

At least to me it did
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>>136122177
>woman is unharmed
>man is pancaked
such is life
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>>136122244
kek what a fag

drove straight into it
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>>136122289
>>136122244
>>136122177
idk your just as fucked in a car
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nah no thanks. I think I'm better off in a car.
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>>136107448
Motorcycles are targeted towards babyboomers and the companies didn't shift their marketing to target a new demographic. A lot of companies are starting to fall into this trap because now boomers are getting out of the age where they still use these products.

Harley is a great example of this. I live in PA and everyone and their fucking brother rides a Harley because the plant is right down the street. But the thing is, they're all boomers. Harley didn't market towards the Millennials and now a lot of boomers are getting too old to ride.
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>>136122151
I love how that Chink just rides in the middle of the road and seemingly doesn't notice that huge metal sheet. Also, the truck driver seems not to know what mirrors are.
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>>136111134

Unless you are talking PI you're full of it. SMSP turn 1 is 170-180 at apex if you're lapping more than the mid 1:30s.
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>>136107448
They can't check facebook while riding those.
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>>136122693
If you're interested in reading more, this book is good.
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Boomers love to bitch about Millennials for having egos revolving around phones and apps... yet their entire fucking generation revolved around cars, revving their engines making loud abnoxious noises in the street to prove their dominance and ego.

I'm 26 and I hate driving, traffic is annoying, and the cost of owning a car has the power to put someone into poverty because of the maintenance required.
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>>136107448
Just like cigarette smoking, which is harmful and cancerous, mortocycles are also becoming unpopular due to its dangers. People watch LiveLeak and dashcams are becoming more popular informing the puplic by proxy.
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>>136114258
Do loud noises hurt you're little baby ears?
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>>136107448
Because european bikes are better!!
- BMW
- Ducati
- Aprilia
- Cagiva
- Triumph
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>>136123432
Do you have a need to establish your masculinity by making others uncomfortable?
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I ride a 1050 every day.
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>>136107448
because it is expensive as fuck
and dont tell me it isnt
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Too many people on the road, probably almost half of which don't obey the road laws. This isn't 1980
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>>136107448
wanted one until I started driving cars
sawing how people drive cure me of bike envy
also know a guy who rides a wheelchair now after a bike accidents
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>>136107622
this. A shitload of people end up in the hospital in my area because of motorbikes
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>>136107448
Maybe from dealerships, I know a ton of people my age buying used. New motorcycles can, and frequently do, cost more than cars while being less useful in about every way. Plus many people my age think Harley's are for fat old guys, which they are, or wanna be tough guys.

I have two. I'm 24. Pic related, my stable. Got a 3rd coming in October, my dads 64' Harley
>only buying a Harley because it's vintage and has been in my family for 30+ years
>has mufflers on it but he is insistent on giving it to me with straight pipes
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>>136107622
>freedom
Like the freedom to not be able to ride in the rain or snow and the freedom to not be able to transport more than 10lbs of stuff at a time?

Bikes are fucking shit.
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>>136123432
this is the one thing jew park got right.
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Because I live in a cali overrun by spics and chinks and I don't wanna die by their shitty driving skills
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>>136107448
Impractical and expensive at the same time.
Yeah, it would be fun to have a motorcycle to occasionally ride around. But to pay huge money for something that is completely useless when compared to a car which has the tiny extra of not having to catch large bugs using your face... yeah, no.
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>>136124672
>implying
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>>136123432
BRUBRUBBRBURBRBBRBRB
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>>136123119
Being dependant on a car also means if you ever experience a breakdown you might lose your fucking job too.

Good luck explaining to Mr. Shekelkike that you can't come into work for a week because your engine detonated.
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>>136124801
The sidecar is the only thing preventing you from dying, and most bikers don't have one.

Plus isn't it fucking freezing cold?
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>>136107448
>why aren't millennials buying bikes
>why aren't millennials buying houses
>why aren't millennials doing x
Being this fucking dumb instead of researching what millennials actually are purchasing/doing and investing in/catering to that. You fuckers deserve to go out of business.
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People who drive motorcycles are attention seeking faggots.

They drive down the street making as much noise as possible so people will look at them and they will feel important

If motorcycles were banned today the world would be a much better place.
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>>136124940
Wear a big coat. Pic was taken in 10f. Anything below freezing gets pretty chilly very quickly however, so I don't go too far.
>tfw gets -30f during the winter
>still ride down the street to my favorite coffee shop
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>>136107448
Harley davidson deserves the drop they overprice their products,I like it but super expensive
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>>136124843
Taxi, Uber, bus, train, friend, family, co-worker. Really you absolutely can't make it into work?
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>>136119573
>tires are cheap!
found the cager
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>>136107448
Because they're as gay as they are fucking retarded.
Bikers, in particular, are seen as dumb irrelevant old faggots.
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>>136125118
If your commute is 1+ hour and not on a bus/train route those options aren't really available without spending $200/day on taxis or heavily burdening your friends and family who likely don't have time for that shit themselves.
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>>136107448
Why buy a bike and have it break down in a year while you can ride a bike in a videogame
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>>136125031
That's from Harley riders who are fat old guys or tryhard losers whose first order of business is removing their mufflers. Most people my age who ride own crotch rockets. I'm not a big fan of them either, but at least they have mufflers and are quiet when not revved hard.

I personally am a big fan of 70s era jap bikes. Pic is my 81 Kawasaki 440 LTD. gets 55mpg and isn't loud or showy at all
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>>136122177
Ironically enough if they were in a car they'd be both dead, or worse trapped for hours in a tiny pocket of twisted metal plates. In agony. And then they'd die.
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>>136107448
Because HD is pure obese boomer midlife 9-5 fan club. This is HDs demographic and they embraced it.

Now they blame millennials for shit sales? Lol dated tech at a premium price why wouldn't I buy an Indian or Honda.

Your dad's Harley isn't cool. Go to any college or HS campus and you will have pussy flock to you on a sport bike regardless of brand. Millennials don't have the extra dosh to blow on a HD.

HD can get fucked. They will die off with the boomers.
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>>136125582
How about a Honda Dominator?
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>>136119573
Way cheaper than car tires, aren't they?
Also, my day to day bike is a 150cc yamaha, best vehicle for congestioned city traffic.
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>>136125168
>>136126985
Also, what's a cager?
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>>136107448
Because they're pussies who get a rush from drinking a Red Bull, rather than actually feeling something that reminds them they're alive.
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>>136107448
>overflows the entire globe with big fucking vehicles that most people only use to haul themselves from A to B, wasting all that space which the car provides
>it provides social status at this point, like diamonds, people buy it even if they don't really need it
>occupies parking slot
>creates a hellish traffic, frustrated drivers
>"well goy, it's not safe to drive an efficient vehicle, such as a motorcycle"
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>>136110517

This -
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>>136127033
Someone who drives a car - because it's a cage.
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>>136110762

It's not a solution but it's heading there.... if you have had it happen twice then you are not noticing the dangers. You may need to tune your ESP Ameribro
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>>136126971
I'm more a CB750 guy, but they're uncommon in my area. Seen a few that have been butchered, but I want stock.

Or a well done cafe racer.
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>>136111075

Interesting that no one bats an eyelid at kids riding horses .. but a bike is a death machine.
Pushbikes too!
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>>136107985
Depends where you live I guess. Mine is my main transport but if I lived anywhere else I probably wouldn't use it as much.
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