>71% of the Earth's surface is water >96% of the Earth's

>>136011936
too expensive
You'd have an easier time getting to mars

>>136011936
>there are know known to be minerals, resources, creatures, etc down there

You sound like a 14 y/o pakistani who just discovered youtube. I want to punch you in the face so hard.

>>136011936
>Why don't we just explore the Ocean?
It's not habitable for humans. Mars has possibly potential to be made habitable.

>>136011936
>Why don't we just explore the Ocean?

we are dumbass

been doing it for thousands of years

>>136011936
It's all connected. You explore 5% at various points and you have a pretty good idea what it's all like.

>why don't we start living in the ocean where the pressure can kill you in 90% of it

Sick

Deep ocean is probably easier to explore than mars

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>>136011936

You seem to not understand the reason we explore space. The reason we need to explore and colonize space is to MOVE there. We have to more to other worlds or else an asteroid or ayy lmao's could wipe out our existence in an instant.

>>136012256
Explain, I'm curious on what you mean.

>>136011936
This is stupid.

They know whats in the ocean. Whats at 5 feet in depth is pretty standard around the planet, just like at whats at 10,000 feet and 15,000...etc

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>>136011936
Because that makes too much sense.

>>136011936
>>less than 5% of the Ocean has been explored

I hear this a lot, but can you cite this?

It's easier to go to space than it is to explore our deep so, according to some oceanographer bloke.

>>136011936
i had one of those for dinner the other night.
it was kind of greasy

>>136012521
A simple Google search. "How much of the ocean have we explored"

>>136012521
>what is do your own research

>>136012448

the deep ocean environment is much more hostile to human life than mars is

it's just cheaper and quicker to get there. but it isn't that much cheaper, and once you get there, there's not a whole lot you can actually use for sustaining life.

>>136012443
>why don't we start living on Mars where the oxyg-
oh wait there is none

>>136012521
his ass

>>136012600

You made a claim, the burden of proof is on you.

Post some links from legitimate sources, please.

>>136011936
The purpose of the missions to outer space isn't exploration and expansion

The real purpose is to escape what lies within

>>136012460
(((they))) don't want you exploring the oceans

>>136012700
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/exploration.html

The further down into the ocean you go the more simplistic the life becomes. What's the point?

>>136011936
The pressure differential between our atmosphere and the ocean floor is much higher than between our atmosphere and a vacuum. Once we get reusable rocketry refined to the point where it becomes economical to construct large spacecraft piece by piece in LEO, we're set for space exploration.

>>136011936
>only 5% has been explored

This triggers the nu-male sense of intellect and adventure as an escapism of the 9/5 office job

>>136012761
deep sea gigantism. i want to find the kraken.

>>136012256
>I want to punch you in the face so hard.

And how do you suppose you sound?

>>136012423
nigger XD

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Because if we fuck up under the ocean it affects the whole Earth. If we fuck up getting to Mars a few nerds become scrambled eggs on the tarmac.

>>136011936

we've known for years that there are huge methane hydrate ice deposits on the ocean floor. the problem is figuring out how to mine it.

i don't think you have a good grasp on physics and why mining the oceans might be harder than it looks.

>>136012658
Lifelike planet vs death zone we know nothing about.

FUCK off leaf

>>136011936
>lol we just dive into ocean and explore it all , its so ez guis.

>>136012988
>wyoming's search is smoking
If this isn't forshadowing yellowstone I don't know what is

>>136012746

Thank you.

>>136011936
Because (((they))) live down there

>>136013104
I never said it was easy.
>>136013030
>I don't think you have a good grasp on physics
I will look more into mining when it comes to the Ocean.
>>136013048
>lifelike
The ocean is right here on Earth. That sounds pretty lifelike to me.

>>136011936
The oil industry actually does a ton of ocean exploration and they are the driving force for most ocean exploration at this time. Oddly enough that is the same industry the left wants to destroy. Also one of the major reasons we can't explore most of the ocean is the crushing pressure involved. It takes specialized robots just to explore to 10000ft/3000m depth because at those depths the pressure is too intense for human survival (literally hundreds of times of our atmospheric pressure). There are no engineered materials we have currently that could even make a habitat for human occupancy past the 1000ft/300m depth. Only twice have humans reached sea floor in literally a foot thick metal sphere and only for a very short period. Also any exploration at depth requires hours of decompression before humans can return to normal atmospheric pressure. The costs of sea exploration and difficulty is far above that of space exploration.

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Because they won't let us.

>>136013582
Thank you for the explanation. I thought of bringing up exploring the ocean because constantly the media glorifies Space and I am interested in what the hell is right below us.

>>136012700
>4chan is an academic safeplace
eurotrash detected

>>136013226
Lazy spoonfed retard

>>136011936
Earth has resources and life etc.
Mars has resources and 0 life if they don' find some bacterium living under a rock.

They can tear Mars up no end to get the resources. and no Greenpeace types can say they are doing any damage. The machinery needed will essentially be 1005 automated and only require a small team of humans to oversee from an orbiting station.

Or we can work on the sea beds and everything can be 1000% more expensive, dangerous and damaging to environments.

>>136012851

I mean I'm at my 9-5 job and wouldn't mind leaving it all behind to explore Atlantis, would you?

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>>136013211

>>136013582

>The costs of sea exploration and difficulty is far above that of space exploration.

Not sure how true that is. Name once when an expedition to the deep sea had the same budget and man power as one of the Apollo missions, including the tech and engineering.

We don't go to the deep because theirs no profit in doing so. Space will provide us with massive resources in the future, the deep sea wont.

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>yfw it wasn't just a book

>>136012450
you say that like it would be a bad thing.

>>136013451
>they're on earth

So are volcanoes.
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-flying-observatory-just-detected-oxygen-in-the-martian-atmosphere

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>>136011936
You know how scientists are always clamoring about how we know more about outer space then we do our own oceans?

Maybe there is a fucking reason for that
1. The ocean sucks
2. Who wants to be around some faggy fish
3. Fuck salt

Let me explain to you something /pol/
We never need to explore our fucking oceans because theres nothing cool down there
So dont you go looking because your going to waste your time my time and humanities time

I dont understand why anyone would wanna go check out that bullshit

If you wanna get the same experience just go to the deepend of the pool or a pond and its the same exact shit just deeper

I repeat there is nothing cool in our unexplored oceans and aint nobody got time to find it out.

>>136014880
Was going to paste this.

there's nothing in the ocean, just a huge empty space.

and even if we did explore the ocean, we couldn't do anything with it.

>we only know 5% of the ocean at best
>dude theres nothing in the ocean

how the fuck would you know that you faggot

>>136014880
chtulhu pls go

>>136012700
Reddit out

>>136011936
Are you kidding? Our entire society would collapse if we discovered the ruins of Atlantis

Maybe we know so little about whats under the sea because people actually know what is down there and they don't want us to know about the good stuff

>>136011936
Because it's more dangerous than space

>>136011936

Because we'd rather explore Antartica.

Also has minerals and resources.

Conditions are friendlier to life. Just need airships and robots.

I am tired of this mars/ocean meme.

Terraform the existing deserts of the world, if you want to terraform something.

Extract resources from Antartica, if you want to extract resources from a hostile climate- but you don't even want to do this, because there are unextracted resources in friendlier climates.

Die.

>>136013451
You are not seeing how hard it is. We are not talking about some mid sea level exploration. You want to go into the abyss and extract material and gather info. We don't have the tech to go that deep and mine. Also the ocean is enourmous and it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack as big as a country. Space is not so complicated because we don't really have to do anything to explore the outer reaches thanks to the telescopes and things alike.

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There are aliens in the sea. Anonimous sources say so. Pic for proof

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>>136011936
They have seen whats down there. Thats why They are trying to get to Mars.

or we could do both
duh
this fucking "pick one" mentality irritates me

it's not like removing funding from space puts more funding into ocean or vice versa

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Underneath the
Seaaaaaaalab, underneath the waaateerr

Also fuck the sea it's a god damn hellhole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnkHRtpTztc

Why not both?

>>136014320
holy fuck hahaha

>>136011936
There are probably a couple HUGE sea monsters we haven't found lurking in secret underwater caves and shit, but otherwise we have a decent understanding of what all is in it

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>>136014880

>>136011936
Ive always thought this way. Space exploration is a fucking meme retards get fooled into because of science fiction.

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No thanks I don't want to meet any Old Ones today, I'm good man

>>136011936
Because tax payers can't be fleeced for trillions of dollars by the promise of exploring the ocean. Space is much more fantastic and expensive

>>136011936
Holy shit it looks like the Pastafarians found their God!

>>136013048
Are you seriously implying that Mars is more livable than the ocean?

>>136012988
>only POV state

true patrician

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>>136013870
>>136015973
>requesting a source is now makes you a Reddit-er
THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN
THESE ARE THE HANDS WE'RE GIVEN

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>>136018726
Holy fuck you're retarded. Mars can be made habitable. The ocean cannot. Kill yourself.

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>>136014880

>>136012746
That's a shitty source, to be fair. They're also just baselessly throwing that number around.

A proper source would be a metaanalysis of survey data - if such a thing even exists for the oceans.

>>136011936
Because ocean is even less hospitable than Mars.

>>136011936
Might have a bit of trouble breathing underwater you fucking mong.

>>136012450

Oh, im gonna print this on canvas for my room. Thanks.

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>>136014880

>>136013226
kek

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>>136018681
These photos are taken out of context. It looks a lot less strange when you see the whole organism from an appropriate angle. Deep sea creatures have fucked up weird eyes but their silhouette is usually pretty recognizable. Closeups really fuck with their proportions and hide a lot of information.

A lot of terrestrial animals have freaky fucked up mouths and feet too, but you don't see them primarily reported on using photos of them. Velvet worms are qts until you see their fucked up mouth parts. Same goes for most everything. You never want to see a close up of the eyes and mouth or you will never look at most animals the same again.

>>136011936
Depth: 1278m
Titled: 1.5 miles down
Burger education?

>>136019331
this.

>>136019066
There cannot be proper source for that claim, because there is no proper criteria of 'explored'.

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>>136011936
We fish the sea for resources, but we don't know what goes on in the depths. Intelligence in a form we wouldn't immediately recognize exists down there. Sometimes we fish it up by accident. Imagine the horror.

Aliens fish the bottom of gravity wells for resources, but they don't know what goes on in the depths. Intelligence in a form they wouldn't immediately recognize exists down there (us). Sometimes they fish us up by accident. Imagine the horror.

>>136019215
>breathing
Least of problems.
>pressure
>cold
>no light
>no radio

>>136012450

You are literally a bluepilled fag if you think humans are ever going to move to other planets. Stop watching star track and open your eyes to reality, not fantasy.

>>136012450
>implying aliens won't just kill the other colonies as well

>>136019533
You can define some, for example "has been visually examined and mapped". This is not a big problem.

>>136017333
Holy fuck it's Sealab 2021.

>>136011936
>Why don't we just explore the Ocean?

Water pressure is too great. Even with the technology we have today, the equipment can't stay down there very long before the water pressure crushes it's crumpling a piece of paper.

>>136012423
You want a loan of $20,000? I'm not giving you $10,000. Why did you want $1000 anyway? Don't forget about the $50,000 you owe me.

because whats really underneath the oceans depths is the entrance to hell and heavily guarded by demons until they are given the clear to invade land above when the time is nigh.

>>136019804
F

>>136019743
Yeah but at least with independent off world colonies our eggs aren't all in one basket. A natural event could basically sterilize the planet without ayes.

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>>136013226
kill yourself

>>136012423
Hello, Nigerian Prince. I'm not falling for your scam today.

>>136012303
he means the deep see dumbass. not the surface.

>>136012600
Hi Cenk.

>>136019748
Pretty sure it's all been mapped but it's difficult to visually examine the bottom. Maybe it would be more clear to say "5% has been visited."

None of you dumbasses would be chosen for anything. Your parents wouldn't even choose you if they had a choice to begin with. Stop deluding yourselves.

>>136019804
What went on here?

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>>136019727

>The BLACKEDpilled amerimutt enters the thread to try and convince others that people with IQs above 90 don't exist because he has never met one

>>136011936
It's a lot easier to design a craft for vacuum than it is to design a craft for the sorts of pressures that exist in the deep ocean.

For vacuum, you just need to have a craft that can hold an atmosphere of pressure differential between you and space. For the ocean, every 10 meters of depth is another atmosphere of pressure differential that your craft needs to deal with.

>>136019727
It's necessary long term. Otherwise we're never more than one comet or asteroid away fron extinction.

>>136012120
with the current way they are doing it.

if they used a bunch of rov's daisy chained together they could get around the weight of a heavy 5mile cable. or a mesh network of wifi style coms.

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>>136012267
>it's not habitable for humans
>mfw

3 and a half more years...

>>136021009
Part of a deepwater exploration of the marianas broadcast live, last summer, for weeks
This was a sponge never seen before, it was temporarily named The "ET" sponge, bulasoma species 3
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1605/welcome.html

what if i told you the reason we are trying to get to mars and that we dont explore the ocean are the same

>>136018681
The second fish on the right is kinda qute.

>>136011936
There's a reason we weren't given gills anon. God is trying to protect us from what is down there.

>>136011936
nobody is getting to mars. that's propaganda and nothing else.
our options for exploration are in fact surprisingly limited.

>>136012120
All Mars, or any "outer space" requires is quality CGI and a believable story line.

>>136011936
fuck mars
moonbase now

>>136011936
>complain that mars is unproductive and expensive
>when there's so much welfare, shitskins, govt deficit spending, counterproductive taxes that fund gay parades, foreign aid that reaches 0% of the population and ends up in hands of dictators every out of every time, etc

yeah
fucking mars, maaaaaaaaaan

>>136021383

Don't even bother. Long term planning and foresight are skills that are exclusive to civilized races. The Negroes and the Australoids are not capable of thinking or acting beyond the here and now. Your amerimulatto countryman can't comprehend statements like "It's necessary long term" because the window of time which they pay attention to is about as wide as an orgasm.

>>136014339
It's not true. The challenges are different though. Deep sea brings insane pressures, extreme cold, total darkness. A lot of steel, specialized materials, and electricity are needed. Costs of development and operations are very high, but not as high as any probes we send around the solar system. Some things about space probes seem easier because of things like solar power or long term missions or wide range of instruments, but they are only the result of hundreds of millions invested per project.

>>136021559
This.

>>136018183

Kek. Don't let the goyim know.

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>>136011936
There's only one reason why space gets so much attention while the oceans are ignored: outer space makes for a better setting for movies and tv shows. That's it. Shows set underwater are unable to come up with compelling stories for very long. In outer space writers can create whatever alien race they want to do whatever they want.
Green aliens who are fuckable are plausible to most people, fuckable mermaids are not.
Because most people's understanding of the world is based on the entertainment they consume, space programs are much more popular with the public than ocean exploration.

>>136011936
It takes a lot of money so there needs to be a reward.

If oil runs out in shallower wells, ExxonMobil will dive in headfirst, but until then there isn't a return on investment.

Govt funded studies happen from time to time but even the govt doesn't want to fund "let's go exploring" missions.

Space wasn't about exploring, it was about world dominance and nuclear warhead delivery systems during the cold war. Satellite programs are cheaper and usually driven by commerce.

Unless there is a pile of gold big enough to more than fund the mission to bring it up, then it will stay.

We don't explore for funsies

we have a better chance to geneticly modify humans to adapt to water environments than have planetary exploration.

think,Modern Atlantis

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>>136021705

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>>136011936
The very last thing we need is some faggot ass sea creature that demands gibs from us for "polluting" "their" ocean environment. Not to mention the vaginakin will start to identify as sea creatures and insist white men are oppressing their mermaid lifestyle.

>>136021927
Extinction level events are rare but certainly not impossible. The problem with the Trek fans is that they act as if the odds of humanity being wiped out in this century are close to 1:1. As technology progresses, we'll we able to colonize other planets but we're far from that level yet. There is no reason to squander resources today on avoiding the Sun turning into a red giant. Heavier than air flight is just over a century old and space exploration about half of that. Continuing to advance is a good path but at a reasonable pace. What we can do with a handheld computer today would have taken millennia with the computers of fifty years ago.
If you really want space exploration to happen, drop sending soggy bags of meat into space. The return on investment for robotic exploration is orders of magnitude higher. Robots can pave the way for humans to follow behind later. But your average Trekker can't wait due to human lifespan not being that long. So they insist we must get off Earth NOW because events that have near zero probability of happening this century have a much higher probability of the course of millennia.

>>136019432
Im soo unimpressed by the bristle tooth creature at the top far left.
Overrated af.

>>136018881
It's not the content, it's the reddit spacing dummy.

>>136023057

> The problem with the Trek fans is that they act as if the odds of humanity being wiped out in this century are close to 1:1.

The problem with Amerimutts is that they think squandering taxpayer dollars to play international pingpong with groups of displaced niggers is more important than investing a modicum of time or money on advancing technology.

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Because they don't want to awaken it.

>>136018681
What are the bottom two?

>>136019768
>>136017333
Will reality implode under itself the moment Mike Pence steps foot on the first sealab?

>>136023841
Look like roughed up sunfish.

>>136023543
gray tank top . jpg

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>>136023568
Grant us digits grant us digiiits

Grant us digits upon our posts so that we may transcend our beastly idiocy

>>136012256
T. 12

>>136012658
>he doesnt know that the red soil is actually because of the oxidation of iron in the mars soil
I want shariablue to leave

>>136024015
>roughed up sunfish
Thank you anon.

>>136014807
This^

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

>>136018681

the middle one is a male anglerfish

>>136014807
Closest to lovecraftian horror.

Love it.

>>136019727
>humans will never fly
>Technology as it is is always as it's gonna be

Are you retarded?

>>136018681
I heard they look like this because pretty much as soon as you get them out of water and expose them to sunlight they start rotting. They wouldn't look this alien underwater.

>>136019977
Kek, jew-jitsu

>>136024112
nice try anon, have a complimentary checked

>>136011936
why not both, shitposter friend

>>136023325
Problem with Koalaniggers is that they don't know when they're spouting off a false dichotomy.

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I wish there were more exploration of the oceans.

>>136021066
>>136021383
>>136024882
>giving it a (You)

>>136023888
Only if he is crushed by a soda machine.

>>136019804
Holy shit there are robot claws in the ocean!

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>>136014880

>>136021705
this

>>136012865
And i want to find some space krakens

too much pressure, materials science hasn't cought up

also pollution we can very easily destroy the extremely delicate ecosystems etc if we really started poking around alot

that being said i think an underwater settlement compariable to the antarctica ones a few hundred meters down on the edge of some contintental cliff makes a ton of sense for science and etc, if we can do that well space would become much easier

>>136012988
>College
Eh, makes sense with all the fucking universities here.

>>136011936
>96% of the Earth's water is in the Ocean

90% of that ocean is lifeless like a desert.

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>>136012865
This, too many stories and sightings for this.

>>136026592
how do you know that you stupid faggot

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>>136011936

>>136011936
>Claims Mars is just dirt and ice
>Doesn't realize the ocean is just rock and water

>>136012600
>detailed topographic maps of entire ocean
>unexplored

What's your definition of explored?

>>136027457
>rock and water that is actually filled with life
>a literal partial-frozen planet with zero life whatsoever

>>136014880
fucking pirate protecting his booty

DAY OF THE PLANK WHEN

>>136027775
Life which makes extracting resources and asking for funds more difficult because hippies.

It's much easier to deal with exploring a lifeless world than one filled with life as it leaves less variables to deal with and less moral problems for the public to bitch about.

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>>136012988
The fucking south

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>>136011936
Go back to sleep OP.

Space doesn't real
It's literally all smoke and mirrors
Why hasn't anyone been back to the moon?

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>>136012988
>so many states with creampie
why do you like to watch jizz seep out of a gaping asshole

>>136012267
Mars gravity alone makes it unsuitable for permanent colonization. It fucks with us too much

NASA and the US just want to call dibs because it'll be an invaluable outpost once we start stripmining asteroids.

>>136025300
Fuck off, don't touch the Balts, You fucking niggercunt.

>>136028044
what did I just watch?

>>136012988
>anita queen
what did Nevada mean by this?

>>136028043
There are a bunch of "ebony" searches in the south because that's where all the niggers live, my dude.

https://www.youtube.com/user/oceanexplorergov

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>>136018913
> Mars can be made habitable. The ocean cannot.

Burger education at its best

>>136012786
>that ridiculous pipe dream
or you can just do it now with mars direct

>>136020509
OP means somethng like SeaQuest with Rob Znyder

>>136028772
That's a ribbon worm.

>The white stuff the ribbon worm ejects from its mouth is its proboscis, which it everts – turns inside out – from a chamber located just above its mouth when it attacks its prey. It does this by rapidly filling up the proboscis with fluid it stores in the chamber. The sticky tentacles of the proboscis then shoots out and acts like a net to grab hold of and immobilise prey.

>>136011936
only so far down you can go, till you hit the bottom.
however - we can keep going up and out after mars, onto the rest of the solar system, then the galaxy, then onto the next.
The potential is limitless upwards, therefore its more cost effective to spend money.
Remember, we only have one earth. for now.

>>136029424
What's ridiculous about orbital assembly? Simply launch smaller payloads with reusable rockets and have them rendezvous in LEO. It's the best we can do until super heavy lift rockets start rolling out.

>>136011936
We need to be a multi planetary species soon

DO NOT GO LOOKING IN THE OCEAN OK?!
THERE IS NOTHING DOWN HERE AND THERE IS NOT POINT IN WASTING RESOURCES TO GO LOOKING FOR SOME IMAGINARY "CREATURES".

ABANDON THIS IDEA AND NEVER SPEAK OF IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT FIND ANYTHING HERE.

>>136030478
have you any idea how resource- and time- expensive it would be?

as i said, mars direct. all you need to transport a complete+return human mission to mars is 2 heavy lifters the size of a saturn v.

the ocean is cool as fuck, but practical applications for ocean exploration are either rare or nonexistent. Exploration needs a purpose, and "maybe we'll find something useful this time" is a very flimsy one whereas space travel pushes technology forward and has the hope of eventually colonizing another planet or making big discoveries about our universe. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see some money put into studying the ocean more than we currently do but I don't see any purpose in over funded ocean research missions with a little to no payoff.

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Now you finally want us to come into your home fucko? not falling for your trap you ugly fuck

>>136028468
>what is electromagnetism

>>136031005
I don't see how it would be any more resource intensive than a super heavy lifter when you can reuse the launchers. More time intensive perhaps, but certainly not resource intensive unless your super heavy lifter is reusable as well.

>>136030837
Hah, not like we'd find some kind of ancient civilization or gods there or anything, so why not?

>>136012450
THIS.
>Space travel would fix overpopulation, resource problems, pollution, climate change and pretty much every other problem
>Tfw because of retards on earth you'll never be able to explore new world's
>Tfw you'll never be able to be a captain of a destroyer in the great Ayy wars
>Tfw you'll never get an alien waifu, or live on an artifical space station city with other races
>Tfw you'll never fly through space with human nationalists.
>Tfw you'll never drift your manual transmission space ae86 around the rings of Saturn

B-but fuck the left! Religion! Race war! The ocean! Why the fuck don't you faggots want to go to space

>>136016901
The funding for both would be better spent helping the POC in your own backyard.

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>>136024774
Male anglerfish don't have the "lamp" on them. They're pretty much just a swimming dick that attaches permanently to the much larger female as soon as they find one.

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>mfw this thread

>>136031411
constructing a battlestar galactica in orbit sounds like a great idea to people who don't know much about space travel

>>136031438
>Space travel would fix overpopulation
how? we're going to send billions of people into space?

>>136018913
>he hasn't played Bioshock

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh die quickly

>>136031751
No. Just the humans.

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>>136027275
That thing is nothing but a colony formed of thousands of microorganisms.

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>>136031751
Our children will leave this doomed rock.

>>136011936
Ocean is finite, space isn't. If you think about it long term, space is the only way to go.

We're supposed to take a step forwards and ascend again, not go 20 steps backwards and end up where we came from

>>136032129

just like your mom then ;P

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Why don't we explore alternative energy more vigorously?

>>136031743
I'm not talking about a science fiction space ship. I'm talking about building a modular, practically designed spacecraft, launching sections of it piece by piece, and having them dock with each other in orbit. Again, explain to me how this would be resource inefficient unless your hypothetical super heavy lifter is reusable.

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>>136032285
We are, we are but a decade away from fision.

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>>136031751
Perfecting space travel by putting money and resources into it rather than waste time on other shit provides an eventual opportunity to arrive at alpha centauri. Having a whole nother planet just like earth would allow us to move mass amounts of people there and begin mining etc. Perfecting a way to jump there, would fix every problem and would jump mankind into a brand new age of space travel.

>>136011936
Oceans are too spooky

>>136011936
>instead we spend our time trying to get to Mars when there is nothing on it but a deadly ice cap and a desert with no resources, oxygen, and little gravity
Because a single extinction event could occur and we all die here on earth. If we have 2 planets that cuts the chances in half.

>>136032414
Imagine an earth with 3,000,000,000 less people and a new Earth with no claimed land. It would be such a massive fix for every nation.

>>136032377
I don't propose a complete removal of oil and petroleum but possible a mix of the two for cars? Efficient yet powerful hybrid engines.
More efficient solar panels, thinner, more absorbing of sunlight, better storage and if it doesn't have enough juice to power on it'll still be connected to the electrical lines.
My hate for the Petrodollar and refugees sucking up our money grows everyday.

>>136032414
There's nothing in Alpha Centauri.
Two stars, and a planet that's too close to one of them.

>>136032355
i'm not talking about super heavy lifters, but heavy lifters.

>>136032838
Regardless, you see my point. There is other options, such as Proxima centauri or Gamma Cephei. Another planet, and the tech needed to get there, should be the highest concern for humanity.

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>>136025258
Thank you anon

>>136031751
We will send the ocean into space

>>136033278
best post in the thread

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>>136011936
i could not agree more

if we can't even thoroughly discover all of our own fucking oceans what chance do we have at ever going to space? Like fuck sake, we are jumping the gun here. There could be so much untapped resources we have yet to see or even begin to utilize. Not to mention the millions of undiscovered alien life forms that are right on our proverbial doorstep waiting to be discovered. who knows there could even be sentient advanced life forms deep somewhere in the ocean.

>>136032979
The Falcon Heavy had better work out, then. Throwing away two entire Saturn Vs every time is not sustainable unless you only want Mankind to visit Mars a few times.

>>136011936
Space is 0 ATM. We, the surface dwellers, live in 1 ATM. 10 meters down in the ocean is 2 ATM.

And water is incredibly dense in comparison to air, meaning it takes huge amounts of energy to move in it.

It's like that scene in The Core where Aaron Eckhart says space is easy, its empty, with less pressure.

>>136011936
It is easier to deal with low pressure than high pressure.

>At the bottom of the trench the water column above exerts a pressure of 1,086 bars (15,750 psi), more than 1,000 times the standard atmospheric pressure at sea level.

>The atmospheric pressure at the surface of the Earth is about 14.7 psi. That means that the weight of a column of air which has a cross section of 1 square inch and which stretches from the surface of the Earth to space is 14.7 pounds (on the average).

>Spacesuits for the space shuttle era are pressurized at 4.3 pounds per square inch (psi)

>>136014880
>he has a meme flag enabled to hide his R'lyeh flag

>>136033552
>ed eats his mattress.gif

>>136011936
>Why don't we just explore the Ocean?
You're forgetting about c͙̭̯̝̺͔͕̗̰͓̞̦̦̥͕͖͙̯̔ͫͪ̂t̟͉̣̟̭͒̈́̿̐ͭ̚ḣ͇̮̟̦͈̖̥͓͈̹̥͑̋̾ú̟̹͓͔͈̦̤͚̬͎̉ͩ̓ͤͤ̑̇̓ͭ͂̏ͣ̈́̇̽̚l͕̹͓͓͔̤͚̮̄̎ͣ̎̍͂̒ͤͧͧ̇̃͑̀̑̒̚h̬̻̟̻͎̭̦̪̠̱̻̥͍̩̹̬ͨ̽ͨ͊͋u͍͈̞͙͕̙͙͓͛̎͑̽̆͒̿ͪͮ̄̄̾̇

>>136011936
>some crazy shit
like what? another jellyfish species? another fish species? another crab?

There's nothing crazy down there.

lol nty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPh1KAu4jXs

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>>136011936
Space exploration’s main reason is technology. Trying to reach Mars means bringing the best brains on the planet together to try to accomplish an incredible task. By doing so, new technologies emerge, such as insulating material or other world-changing ideas, which can therefore be applied to better humanity.

>>136034058
This. You're forgetting someone OP

>>136031310
So even cthulhu does the You're/Your grammatical error.

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I know about Cthulhus homosexuality

>>136034083
>there's nothing crazy down there
How do you know this?

>>136034946
begone CTHOTLU

>>136020206

Kek, saved

>>136011936
Pressure is too tight for humans to survive.

>>136025352

What was that?

>>136025352

What was that? Is that legit footage?

>>136022378
underrated post, +1 upboat

>>136011936
lets wake up cuthulu from his majestys slumber

>>136019331
Who can blame him? I wouldn't want niggers infesting my ocean either.

>you now realize spongebob is ironically not as retarded as it seems

Guys it was in our face the whole time.

>>136012423
lmao NIGGER

>>136014880
Exactly, it's just dark and cold at the bottom of the ocean, what few resources are available aren't worth retrieving. You all are better of going to mars than coming down here and finding nothing

>>136011936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcUNA3gl2M

nobody knows what this thing was

>>136017333
meant to reply to this

spongebob had oceans under oceans in its early episodes and we NOW just find that out?

>>136012450

>saturn
>6th planet

>>136011936
Now that is some nightmare Jellyfish material right there OP, wut in da actual fuk kind of jelly is that.

>>136012256
>when your meta analysis post falls short and you get attacked for sounding cringe

meta.

>>136023261
>reddit spacing xD
Neck yourself nerd.

>>136017333
spooky shit i tell ya.

Can't breathe underwater yet. You should get a head start op go dunk your head for 5 minutes at a time.

>>136011936
Earth is flat. Go from there on why people don't explore the oceans more and instead send robots to ((((another)))) planet for billions of dollars.

>>136012627

>Make claim
>Expect others to just your claim for you

Not how discussions work. Back up your claims with evidence or fuck off.

>>136038482
If the Earth is flat, why doesn't the water pressure from the ocean cause the "ice wall" to rupture? No response needed. You're a kike who has no answer which doesn't deflect.

>>136025352
I wonder why does it even need such long limbs or whatever is that

>>136011936
Far less than 1 % of the Earth is water, though.

>>136039276
They have no bones so can just grow as long as nutrition allows.

>>136039499
The Earth's surface. Not the Earth.

>>136033552
wtf, i repeat wtf

>>136039276
The school girls are not gonna fuck themselves.

>>136025352
>I wish there were more exploration of the oceans.
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/media/exstream/exstream.html

>>136023841

Bogfish

>>136013226
cancer

>>136011936
The Sea creatures down there are too scary. The water pressure makes it so backwash from the dinosaur age has to stay far deep below the surface

>>136039881
I wonder why pressure affects these creatures at all in the first place. Animals consist mostly of water, and sea creatures can already breath in water, so shouldn't it be irrelevant how high the pressure is? It's not really going to compress the water any further.

>>136011936
>instead we spend our time trying to get to Mars
>believing in space meme
wew

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>Why don't we just explore the Ocean?

Because space is fucking cool.

Yahr har fiddle dee dee!

>>136036278
Yes dunmy. It's full picture was posted above

>>136040400
It's also so empty that it's hard to comprehend.

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>>136011936
>less than 5% of the Ocean has been explored
>YOU ONLY USE %10 OF YOUR BRAIN

I really need the facts here. The others are correct but this sounds like an article on Science or Nature.

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>>136012256

>>136012988
YASSS

>>136040560
But there is never nothing senpai, space itself is something
> In one cubic meter (m3) of space*
there is enough energy to boil
all the water in all of the oceans on Earth.
~ Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize winning physicist

Because some things are better left unknown.

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>>136037105

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>>136012120

>>136025352
h-hes fast

>>136041675
"Houston, we have a problem."
What?
"Never mind."
What's the problem?
"Nothing."
Please tell us.
"I'm fine."

>>136011936
There's nothing to see down there.
The deeper you go, the less oxygen there is in the water. Less oxygen means less food, less food means stuff gets smaller.
At depths like you see in Mariana's Trench you'd be lucky to find microorganisms living down there.
That's without taking in consideration the absurdly high pressure at these depths. You'd have blob-like tumour looking fish at best. And that's if you're lucky
With no plant life due to no sunlight, only algae that can chemically produce energy to survive at extremely efficient rates would manage to survive and they wouldn't be enough to support bigger creatures.
Also, we might find things we never wanted down there.
After all, in the bottom of the sea, even light dies. And in the dark, his black heart still beats, waiting,dormant. H' nafl'fhtagn. Mgehye'lloig lllln'gha nilgh'ri.

>>136013938
The greenpeace types will simply rebrand and start fighting to preserve planets. I can already hear the slogans now:
> Don't let greedy corporations destroy another planet
> Keep Mars Pristine
> Capitalism is exploiting a whole planet we have to stop this
> Mars is for all of us

>>136023841
MoonFish
https://youtu.be/roWU1GdXjDU

>>136041675
No wonder space x is killing them. Defund NASA.

>>136042448
10/10

>>136012256
dirty dumb merifag scum

>>136043080
Spacex proves once again that private funded organisations always beat state funded shit.

>>136014339
We aren't talking the cost involved in already done exploration. We are talking costs involved in exploring places we haven't explored yet. Consider this:

Outer space has a relative pressure of -15 psi which means the pressure in your body would be higher than the pressure outside of it. Just Five miles depth in the ocean the pressure is 11,800 psi. So let's say we made craft in the relative shape of a tube of 8ft x 10ft to explore at that depth. Do you know how much force would be exerted on that tube in it's entirety?

135,936,000 lbf of force would be exerted on that tube. Do you have any idea what it would take to make a craft that could withstand that kind of pressure? I sure as hell don't because we literally can't make anything that actually can survive that kind of pressure. This is just five miles sea depth and that isn't even the deepest point of the ocean. The cost involved in making a craft that could explore at that depth would not only include the cost in materials but would include all the cost involved in actually inventing some material and an entirely new engineering method to actually machine that material so it could survive that pressure. This is literally technology we do not have and aren't even remotely close to having. The cost involved is literally incalculable at this point in time.

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>>136029374
>pollack thinks he can terraform the ocean
wew lad

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>>136042636
Quality post my friend.

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>>136042636

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>>136019804
>that claw

>>136027611
we have detailed topographic maps of Venus, but we still haven't explored it
"exploring" involves going there, taking surface/vegetation/animal samples, maybe looking around with our own eyes

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>>136013702
what is that?

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>>136012448
>Deep ocean is probably easier to explore than mars
James Cameron looks at the Titanic Wreck site when he is bored. I think there is lots of truth to what you say.

The ocean has more than we can imagine, but most will be destroyed by the time we start really looking.

Pic related former pet. One of the most interesting finds....No one gave a shit because they were common....Thanks to the study of Mantis shrimp we are getting improvements in body armor and every type of protective shell (plane and car body panels/wings etc). Their vision study has directly led to 3d glasses/movies.

God only knows what other magical creatures existed that died and we will never even know.....

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>>136041675
>>136043080
>>136043549
>non-regulated bodies are once again making women look bad through sexism
This proves quotas for women are needed in all private industry.

>>136044561
>God only knows what other magical creatures existed that died and we will never even know.....
99.9999% of all species that have ever existed on earth have already gone extinct.

>>136011936
There probably isn't much there. Plus we haven't, and can't go to Mars.

There ain't shit in the ocean bruh we know this it's a vast waste land of water due to white peoples over fishing and pollution

>>136045002
are you mad there's no food stamps down there?

>>136045179
Just stating facts

>>136037243

What's the matter, goatfucker, kike got your tongue?

>>136045258
nigger you can't state facts without sources.

>and implying people fish in the middle of fucking nowhere when it's better to just be about 10-30km away from shore than 500-1000km

>>136045478
I believe I just did

For minute I truly believe you couldn't troll the pol but it's actually pretty easy

>>136045734

>be nu-fag
>say stupid shit on /pol/
>other nu-fags respond to your stupid shit
>tee hee i sure showed how i am intellectually superior to the thousands of people that frequent this board

Or you could just be another run of the mill idiot wandering through this place.

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>>136011936
just weirder and weirder shit the deeper you go. i'd rather live and die on mars than on the bottom of the ocean though. insanely dark down there.

>>136033552
It's kinda cute, like an eldritch dog or something