Wondering who's going to be working those agriculture jobs

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Immigration laws aren't always good.

2/2

Makes no sense. Do you really need 1 million NEW green cards every year to keep agriculture running? What happened to the 1 million you let in last year? Did they die?

>WHO WOULD PICK THE LETTUCE?

The irony is leftists don't understand how racist this is.

>>136009653
>>136009691
get rid of birthright citizenship and then migrant labor can't do much

>>136009653
Oh no how will we feed all of Africa, now?

>>136009928

Good thing birthright citizenship isn't a thing.

>>136009653
the LA Times actually had some good reporting on this
some farmers have been using 35 year-old machines that are still labor intensive and only recently are they trying to move to more automated harvesting
also some farmers are changing their crops to ones that can be harvested easier
all because the farming industry isn't getting a fresh injection of illegals

>>136009653
>fuck you, lincoln. If we free the slaves agriculture will be crippled!

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>>136009653

Needs more Agro-bots

I know multiple farmers who receive subsidies for letting their land lay fallow who also dodge taxes while raking 7 figures for 6 months of barely any work. Most of them inherited this land from ancestors who literally were able to acquire it for pennies.

>>136010056
What do you mean? Birthright citizenship covers both jus soli and jus sanguinis. I specifically meant jus soli

>>136010201

Free market fixes it once again.

>>136009691
Fuck her an fuck you too retard OP.

>>136009653
machines or no one

>>136010295

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwlOVr-w4eU

>>136009653
I will gladly do any work required of me.

>>136009653
>without slaves who will pick all this cotton?

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>>136009653
Guess now they have to pay a fare wage, hmm.

>>136010271
The only saving grace for these leeches is that they vote conservative and have kids, but why wouldn't they? It isn't as though they have to fucking do anything.

>>136009653
Automation. Isnt that what you spineless noggers say about minimum wage jobs???

But if it is brown people.....NOOOOOOO.

>>136009653
I would love to work on a farm if I didn't expect to be immediately shot down for wanting a good wage, or for not being brown.

>>136009691
Cali can suck deeze nuts

>>136009653
>top dem

I'm he's very trustworthy.

>>136010228
I know it's a prototype, but two notebooks? seriously? for a rover?

>>136010410

This.

>literally slave labor and slave wages

>American labor and fair wages

Leftists prefer the former, because muh lettuce.

>>136009653
It is mostly done by prisoners anyways.

>>136009691
when is Feinstein up for reelection? are republicans doing their best to take her and Schumer's seats? if they aren't why not? everyone is sick of these shitheads

>>136009691
>"we won't be able to "employ" mexicans as slaves anymore with Trump's immigration plan!"
I wish Feinstein would fucking croak already

WE HAVE TO HAVE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WORKING IN OUR FIELDS SO WE CAN PAY THEM SLAVE WAGES!!! HOW DARE TRUMP PREVENT US FROM TRYING TO EXPLOIT THESE POOR WRETCHES!!!

>>136009653
The ones that are already here legally or hire some teenagers to work.

>>136010522

See

>>136010567

By law they must pay you non-slave wages.

>>136010271
Trump needs to gut farm subsidies, we had two spics in florida billions every year overpaying for sugar, America doesn't need any more cheap sweeteners the diabetes here is outrageous

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>>136009691
they wont work in 100 degree weather for 5 dollars an hr. They also wont send their money back to mexico. Thats the whole point of them working shitty jobs here retard. Quick to get hired after then have nice shit in mexico they fuck off

Cut welfare and give the blacks and white trash the jobs.

>>136009691
>oy vey, we need dese spic to do deh farming, calm down sis immigraetion, white people von't work in de sun!
>Feinsteing told CNN
hahahaha, what the fuck does she know about white americans, I'm sure there are tens of thousands of white farmers in america.
What about automation and teens that have nothing to do in school or uni and are going to be in debt?

>>136009653
I would, but you meriniggers don't let europeans in unless they have a phd in chadmatics

>>136010359
migrant labor isn't necessarily illegal though

>>136010683
hurry up and serve the warrants publicly already, sick of hearing about all intrigue and no arrest, this system is so corrupt not even six million silver bullets could fix it

>>136009653
>>136009691

democrats are literally advocating outright slavery at this point

>>136009653
>Wondering who's going to be working those agriculture jobs now, careful what you wish for.

>Who's gonna pick the cotton!?

>>136010642
If farm-owners followed the law about wages, they wouldn't be employing illegals, obviously.
Minimum wage is probably not enough to cover my rent anyway though.

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>>136009791

It's a hundred degree heat, mang.

The lettuce in your taco is paid for in lives, homeboy.

Not true. Do what aussies do. Make back packers do a certain amount of agriculture work for next to nothing to be able to extend their visa. Trust me, works a charm

>>136009653
Seriously... get kids off their fucking smart phones and make them get summer jobs.

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>>136009653

>>136010783
Let's be honest, though: illegals make up the majority of it in the agricultural field.

>>136010359
>the supreme court has never ruled
>even if they did
>they would be wrong
what did this loony mean by this?

>>136010271
Your agricultural industry is insanely over subsidized. Illegal immigrant workers are the least of your agricultural problems.
I remember watching a documentary on the subject a few years ago where some american farmers they interviewed literally said it was more profitable to have a year of drought than an average to just above average season, because of the govt subsidies they recieve on drought years. It amazes me that more Americans dont give a shit about this inefficiency.

>>136009653
He's gonna cut Poo inmigration, you dimwit.

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>>136009653

>>136010810
As they did just before the civil war. Weird how the leaders of the confederacy were mostly democrats before they tried succeeding.

It's almost as If democrats have a history of human exploitation.

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>

Well gee whiz, how did Americans grow food before 1980?

>>136009691
These are fuck wit. It's not like we've been farming for thousands of years or anything.

>farmers have to pay fair wages

oh no that sucks.

>>136010958

Judicial activism.

Example: the idiots obstructing Trump's "Muslim ban"

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>>136010970
I just want to buy cheap land god damnit since going back in time and not having this fucking country help destroy my homeland and handing it over to the Soviets isn't an option.

>>136011257

I'm baffled at the thoughtlessness of the left on this one.

That's how warped their mindset is. If they admitted they just want a voter bloc, how many people would actually buy into it? But if they admitted it I would respect them more.

>>136010970
whats the name of the doc?

>>136010295

I think he means that unrestricted birthright citizenship is not actually codified in statute nor in place as a judicial ruling. It's a "limbo" situation - it only exists in practice because no one has legally challenged it.

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>>136009653
Seriously though, this "taking only the best" thing is going to lead to even more race mixing, given that the immigrants will most likely actually be better choices for marriage than the degenerated whites. All immigration needs to stop. Nonwhites are to be physically removed and placed on reservations from which they will be deported. Poor white people can learn2farm like they did for hundreds of years.

>>136011160
Ifs funny how all the "confederate" Dixiecrats are all now rascist teabilly Conservashits thanks to the southern strategy

>>136011188
Both wrong and right.

>>136009653
So, he is fixing unemplyment for legal residents? And forces those who used to hire illegals to raise wages to a morally decent standard?

And as a democrat they are against it?

I just don't understand american politics. It seems like they don't care about the results of what is done, they just oppose eachother to be a dick.

>>136009691
>(((Feinstein)))

>>136010557
>two notebooks
>two harvests
>two scoops of healthy greens
>no mexicans

How the fuck do democrats reconcile this requirement for cheap slave labor with their position on a 15 dollar minimum wage?

>>136009691
I would work in 100 degrees if the money was worth it.

>>136009653
>>136009653
Just talked to my grandfather and he confirmed that there was no vegetables at the store before 1965

>>136009653
Instead of some stupid day camp, why not bus kids in and teach them a how their food is grown and how much work goes into it. We don't need immigrants. We need to teach work ethic to our children on a massive scale, not having massive fattie kids sitting home all day playing vidya.

>>136011487

There's a lot of racial politics on the left.

See >>136011359

They CLAIM they support the little guy. They CLAIM to want fair wages. We hear pro-labor sentiment over and over for every other industry EXCEPT agriculture.

It's all a ploy to get a voter bloc, and combined with the discouragement of assimilation, they take advantage of illegal aliens. It's straight-up dishonesty and I think leftists must be called out on this.

Democrats as far back as Mondale would have been in full-support of Trump's immigration policy.

>>136011416
Absolutely no idea. I caught it on free-to-air TV one night. I've tried to find it numerous times since with no success. There's a lot of similar docos out there on the same subject though

>>136011487
Democrats here are the party that is extremely unamerican and everything they do is to tear down white men.

Yes, increasing wages for legal residents, by not allowing a slave class of illegals, is racist and evil.

>>136011608
For the real redpill, look up wages adjusted for inflation. I know people that got paid $15 an hour to pick oranges in the 80's. That would be the same wage as $47 an hour today.

>>136009653
test

>>136009653
White farmers with their huge fucking farm vehicles that they shelved when finding out Pedro is cheaper than gas

>>136010359
>a jew said it so it must be true
I thought you were better than this, /pol/.

>>136009791

>Do you really need 1 million NEW green cards every year to keep agriculture running?

Oh you didn't get the memo? Let me explain anon, these sack of shits want infinity growth, if they could get a million more cheap labor they would. Illegals are big business here in the states, especially California, where the lobbyists all have Mexican last names, and pay their legal fees. For what you say? Not for their safety, it is all for profit here.

The truth is, the powers that be hate white people, they require too many standards in life like a good paying job, a good house, a good wage, the easiest and fastest way for them to minimize this is to import people down and out, at a disadvantage so they can take advantage of them.

>B-but no one will do these jobs anon

If they were paying what they should be paying real americans instead of peanuts, then a lot more people here will be doing this jobs. Not to mention these fruit pickers will be replaced by robots here soon, so It's stupid to keep importing these dumb fucks.

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>>136009691
Oh noes whatever shall we do?!? We're doomed! If only white man was smart and the creator of modern civilization, we could surely think of something!

Slave labor is the death of progress. Plus this libtard is being racist.

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>>136009691
Fein(((stein)))

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I'd gladly pay an extra 10-15% of my food knowing it was made by Americans, same with everything else.

>Black unemployment is insanely high
>Deport spic immigrants
>Put the blacks on the farms to work
>They get jobs to support themselves
>Less gimmiedats
>Less crime

Putting the negro back into their natural habitat is good for all America.

>>136011803
Food is unusually cheap right now, but the surest way to lose an election is to inadvertently or directly raise the costs of living. It needs to be gradually raised and Americans need to understand that they can not actually afford all the luxury and disposable items they have in their day to day lives.

Cut off welfare
Then the "Americans who won't work in 100 degrees" will go to work

2 birds
1 stone

>>136009691
>Feinstein
And that's all I needed to know. Full steam ahead, Trumper.

>>136012139
Forward Comrade!

>>136009653
>Wondering who's going to be working those agriculture jobs

Robots or people who are given a living wage and have rights? Is that so horrible?

>>136010683
Then link the thread stupid

>>136012306
Are you calling me a Communist? Because I don't support subsidization of agriculture and migrant labor driving the cost so low that Americans can't work those positions?

ok

>>136012002
british royals were nazis themselves

>>136009653
I gave a solution: end social welfare programs. There would be a line around the block for those jobs

>>136009653
Anyone on welfare

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>>136009653
well we'll get pic related made for every crop in the land and make make more burgers.

>>136009653
We already overproduce food. Furthermore who do you think did those jobs before mexicans flooded us?

>>136010589
She is up in 2018 and this is CA so no way is she getting unseated

>>136010970
Yeah man, I grew up on a ranch but would help my farmer neighbors in the summer. It's stupid how much being a failure was incentivized. The choices boiled down to
>have a decent crop that year, harvest it and either flip it immediately for a small profit or wait until the market is more favorable for a possible better price
>have a drought and get paid by the government for hypothetical labor you weren't able to do
>buy crop insurance, lose your fields in a hail storm, and make an ass load of money when you make a claim

Where I was at, crop insurance claims were the jackpot outcome. I'd like to think we were a bit better than that, but the tax writeoffs for livestock were pretty awesome too and saved us from having to pay almost any taxes

We are basically subsidizing these dickheads while they displace the population with low life pieces of shits, it does not matter to these guys that your family lived in an area since the 1960s, it's more money in their pockets. They live in the likes of rancho palos verdes while everyone else has to dodge shit droppings on the sidewalk. Illegals have turned the entire lower parts of Southern California into a sore eye. Look at the walmarts here, breeding ground for rapists and child molesters.

I'm willing to take the big hit on food prices if that meant making my neighborhood safer and cleaner. Look at all the arrests in Los Angeles, bunch of illegal spic scum.

DIE

Get the blacks to the fields again

>>136010056
dumb burger
>born in US
>automatic US tax slave for life, I mean citizen

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>>136009653
>>136009691
Temporary Visa for temporary workers. It's been successfully done in so many countries like Canada.

>>136011708
>THEY CLAIM
>THEY CLAIM

This is why I simply cannot respect a liberal, not a single honest word comes out of their mouth.... always a promise that is never fulfilled. Fuck them all right in the ear.

>>136011601
Kek you will absolutely never, ever get an answer for this

>>136009653
we should welcome all the white farmers of south africa and Rhodesia.

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>>136009691

>>136012878
white saffer farmers rely heavily on black and coloured laborers

>>136009653
>implying japs couldnt replace Mexicans with robots today

>>136012001
>white people have too high of a standard of living

This. The white genocide isnt being done for racial motives, it's literally just to import a populace thats too retarded to work for what they're worth and too uncivilized to give a shit about sharing a one bedroom apartment with 20 people

>>136009653
>commiefornians mexiblows btfo
>all their farmers now have to pay at least $15/hour
>the one thing the brag about of worth crashes
It's like they can't stop shooting themselves in the foot
>we want fair, livable wages
>except for Pedro
>but don't kick him out though, we're in so much debt that we can't even afford him but it's better than paying whites
Gotta love it, the nations retards all crammed into one landmass one earthquake away

>>136013016
I would let Mary Beth clean my toilets for 10 pesos to be honest. I wouldn't let her drive my limos tho.

>>136013017
yeah and with illegal immigrants gone, we can let the saffers lead groups of inner city thugs.

They seem the most well equipped to deal with their kind.

>LEFTISTS ADMIT THEY WANT ILLEGAL ALIENS AS A CHEAP LABOR CLASS
>DEMOCRATS WERE SLAVEHOLDERS IN THE CIVIL WAR
>NOW THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR MODERN SLAVES

>>136009653
Don;t foget thtat Trump's favorite negotiating strategy is to start off asking for WAY more than he wants, so that compromise brings the proposal back to what he wanted in the first place. (He wrote a book about negotiating that spells this out.)

He seems to have gotten away from that during the first months of his presidency, but this may be a sign he's getting back to it.

>>136013016
>dead or deported
>dead
Hol up!
Did Trump say he was going to kill illegal immigrants?

>>136009653
Americans of the legal kind?

>>136009653
I will. Money...that grows out of the fucking ground? Yes please sign me up.

>>136009691
>>136009653
>let us employ spic slaves for dirt cheap or there will be consequences

why do dems love slavery so much?

>>136009791
It's a race to the bottom for these shitheads. Millions of people competing for the same low-wage job. They're so desperate you can drop the wages some more.

>>136009691
Advocating for slavery? Hmmmm

I just hate how illegals think they are owed the right to stay here, and that if you do not agree they will call you racist. Fuck you. you come to other countries and try to take over them and then cry when the country tries to remove you. Really I have never seen a group of people like the spics who demand things and want special treatment, you should be lucky you are even next to the united states, you would be another brazil or bolivia without usa.

Now all the crying idiots who flaunted their DACA/Illegal status are shivering in their boots. Also this scam of bringing in your extended family gremlins is also coming to an end.

>>136012878
A lot of them came to the midwest around the year 2000 to become farmers and ranchers. It's made boer goats a relatively common stock animal around here.

>>136009691
If they make $50 billion a year, they can afford to pay more for their labor. Or make a machine to harvest agriculture

>>136009653
better the robots than brown slaves

No more slave labor! Democrats will no longer exploit poor people!

>>136009653
we have niggers for agriculture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_QnE9-iK80

>>136013016
I'd continue doing it myself like I've done my whole life you spoiled, lazy cunt

>>136012058
i-is that racist tho?
not that i care
quite frankly we should put all the fucking smelly homeless fucks to work top

>>136013016
Those who are on welfare. This isn't rocket science.

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I can't wait to get a job in US agriculture with my fellow brits and aussies

>>136012610
All it takes is some relatively likeable and recognizable democrat to replace her. A republican taking over is highly unlikely

>>136009653
>Senator (((Feinstein)))
>Democrat
>California

Yep, it's all lies. Shame on all of you for wasting your time arguing here.

>>136009691
I used to work in a warehouse for years while going through college, with plenty of other whites, and the most we got were fans that circulate, not cool. That bitch gets to being 100+ easy, this was 5 years ago. People worked it because it paid $14 starting owith guaranteed overtime. We like to work in shitty conditions if it paid well enough, beans devalued most of the labor jobs to where I've seen only one general labor position that paid more than $9.50, it was $12 to be a foreman

>>136010557
One's for playing Minecraft

>>136013016
>Williams
>When we're all dead or deported

WE WUZ SPICS

>>136009653
even in fucking poland farmers have machines to harvest, nobody picks shit by hand, unless it's strawberries or something

americans are too used to having niggers pick crops since forever.

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>Agricultural subsidies
>Water subsidies
>Labor subsidies
Farmers unions BTFO

t. Actual harvest woker here (not right now but i done it)

do you neets even have the balls to pull one week of this sort of job?

I see farms for miles and miles where I live. I never see anyone working on them. I just see machinery.

>>136013698
they aren't illegal
most farm workers are here on a migrant worker visa that allows them to earn below minimum wage

literally undercutting the local population right from the get-go

>b-b-b-b-but our crops!

>>136013285

Well, you're not wrong.

>>136013960
>What is John Deer
We have them easier, it's naturally more cost effective to have more Pedro's than maintaining and fueling one machine; More surface area covered, more revenue, higher profit margin because of it.

>>136013305

This is the bare minimum that he's asking for. A "big" demand would be a 10-year moratorium on all immigration.

>>136009653
I guess "Top Dem" doesn't pay attention to the news, since Trump said he was going to expand the guest worker program for agricultural laborers.

Which is how we did things in this country for 50 years before the Dems decided they wanted to import millions of potential Dem voters: bring in seasonal farm labor, harvest crops, send seasonal farm labor home.

>>136009653
Well without immigrants we wouldn't have that many mouths to feed.

DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT THAT OP IN BETWEEN SUCKING TWO COCKS

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>>136013016
Blacks.

The evil automation boogeyman you trot out when it fits your agenda

>>136009653
Why you ask they are paid slave labor and dont want Americans.

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>>136014112
if it pays enough
how much did you get paid?
$20/hour? $18?

http://modernfarmer.com/2017/02/migrant-farm-workers-the-high-cost-of-cheap-labor/

>>136012665
Interesting to hear anon. Your agricultural lobby groups must have immense power otherwise you'd expect people from both sides of politics to at least talk about reducing subsidies etc. An inefficient agricultural sector benefits nobody in the long run.

Compare that to here in Aus where we get next to no govt handouts and cant even get insurance for frost damage to crops. To give you an idea of how fucked that is:
>2007
>4/5 previous years were below average or drought years
>had awesome growing season rainfall
>one night in september had sub zero temperatures combined with light drizzle of rain before sunset
>90% of our wheat and barley crops completely destroyed overnight as they were in the flowering stage.
>~$1 million damage
>0 govt assistance
>feels bad man
No option (besides bankruptcy) but to borrow more money from the bank the next year and take the gamble again. My parents are still farming but will likely leave in the next 5 years if they are able to make enough money to buy a house in the city by then...

>>136009691
guess you are going to hhave to settle for 40 billion and pay those backbreaking jobs the wage they are worth....it is not nice to use proxy slave labor to save a $1 on strawberries

>>136009691
>>136009653
Agriculture doesn't need to be so big. Cut donations to Africa/asia and let our agriculture shrink to the right size. Or, stay just as big and export it.

>>136009653

We have a migrant worker program retard.

They come, they pick the fruit, they go back to Mexico.

This is why this country is in the state it is.

Stupid fucks like OP who have no idea how the world works still get to spread their bullshit.

Kill yourself.

>>136014149
That's why commiefornia is such an agricultural giant, they do use them and is why the press so hard for them to stay and get in easier. God forbid some kid at Starcucks would have to break a sweat

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>>136009653

wew

>>136013430

Spics are the worst people in the entire world.

>entitlement complex of niggers
>savagery of Muslims
>persecution complex of Jews

Seriously, no group of people on Earth are worse than spics.

>>136013297

And on top of this, the democrats in California are threatening to secede.

The jokes write themselves.

>>136009653
If your business depends on basically slave labor that no one would do unless they didn't have rights, maybe your business is not a going concern?

>>136014298
>expand the guest worker program for agricultural laborers.
why can't we just let the farms collapse?
why do we subsidize these cretins?
why can't we just trade the crops that grow here economically with crops from warmer countries, you know, like using comparative advantage?

>>136009691
The Dems sure do want their slave labor.

>>136009653
>Trump plan
shouldn't it either be Trump plans to or Trump'd plan?

>>136013341
Don't get my hopes up anon

>>136009653
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-BlDCX__nCLs_ZF9meYQbw
We are going for a paradigm shift not more of the same: >>136013409 .

>>136011445

The question is, why are poor white people not willing to educate themselves and join society in a productive way? Why are conservatives so committed to competition and free market when is convenient for them, but violate those principles when the person "winning" is brown? If a person from India comes under a professional visa and becomes a doctor, he deserves a nice life, with a cute wife and children. Just think about it: they had to go to school, learn a foreign language, abandoned everything they knew and go to a new land with assholes yelling at them from their Walmart scooters. If you are lazy, angry, and antisocial, why should the rest of society take care of you?

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>AUTOMATION IS REPLACING ALL THE LOW SKILL JOBS
>WE NEED TO IMPORT MILLIONS OF LOW SKILL WORKERS

Which one is it, you fucking cunts?

>>136013960
>>136014265

That's one of the reasons used to explain China's eternal technological stagnation. There were always 100 Chinamen to ditch a dig by hand, so machines were never needed. The same principle could probably be applied to the Roman Empire as well, though the Romans used up their slaves pretty quickly so I don't know how sustainable that would have been in the long run.

>>136009691
>Americans won't labour in 100°F
Not for minimum wage, like any sane human being.
Pay them enough and they will.

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>>136009691
>all those fat pig skinned NEET's forced to plow the fields and pick fruit in 100 degrees
Glorious. No more anime, jacking off to traps and video games boy's, time to put you're back into it.

its funny how everyone in this thread is on the same page, but if you go out in the real world no one has a clue about this shit
>muh poor farmers!!!!
>literally subsidizing massive conglomerates like Cargill and Monsanto

>>136013016
>clean toilets
I have self-cleaning toilets
>nanny their children
My wife is a stay-at-home mother
>Drive their limos
My chauffeur is a white guy from Queens

>>136009653
Dems support slavery

>>136014873
this, or:
>Republicans are the party of crony capitalism and mega corporations breaking our backs with their oppression
>How dare they try to take slave labor away from megafarm conglomerates!

>>136014428

I might be wrong but I think a lot of the agricultural influence is from the aftermath of the Great Depression. FDR and the Dems basically made a compact with rural areas to unseat the dominant Republicans, and the subsidies have stayed even as the farmers have shifted parties.

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>>136009653
Local youngsters used to do these jobs in the Midwest. Child labor laws stopped that. For example, I grew up in 80's/90's Indiana. When you turned 13, you could de-tassel corn for between $7-$9 per hour. Where I lived, we worked for 4 hours each day, hanging off the back of a tractor. I'd buy NES games, from the local Mall,with the money. Fast forward to today, the jobs are done by illegal immigrants, kids growing-up with no work ethic, local mall replaced with Super Wal-Mart filled with wretched refuse. Local leadership is non-existent, and the town is decimated by the loss of manufacturing jobs. NAFTA must die.

>>136009653
This is buckshot propaganda pushed by the left. The U.S. Has a seasonal worker visa program, which is similar to the program in Canada, where seasonal farm workers are given visas to work in the US during harvests, planting, etc. In fact, trump and General Kelley (then HS director) expanded the H2B Visa program earlier in the year to compensate for this very issue. Don't buy into Feinstein and the left's BS, it's a lie.

>>136014936
M8 they're talking about black people

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>>136011455
Prove it.

>>136009653
You understand how fucking racist this sounds right?

>>136015209
>13 years old
>$7-$9 just to take tassel off of corn
Holy fuck I'm actually jealous

>>136009880
Underrated

>>136014600
Because BigAg is too big to fail....that's pretty much it....BigAg pushed for and got regulations that killed off the small farmer...now, if BigAg goes under, there aren't enough small farmers to feed the US....

>>136013016
>some WASP pretending to be an immigrant service worker
>"we"

>>136009653
>>136009691
>libtards: we need illegals so they can do work
>also libtards: we need welfare for everyone because everyone's job will be automated soon

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>Pay more for food
OR
>Be wiped out by a tidal wave of low IQ brown people who want to turn the US into Mexico

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HARD CHOICE

>>136010051
Underrated.

Short term, food prices go up and the 3rd World will starve. Nothing of value will be lost.

Long term, maybe all of the welfare bums in this country will have to work the fields. Oh the irony of blacks literally picking cotton again.

>>136010970
Just like every other corrupt system in the USA. The masses only care about what their public education and mass media tells them to care about.

>>136010860
Under rated post

Kekd

>>136015209
child labor laws make it so a teen has to have a work permit from their school that specifies how many hours a week they are allowed to work, based on their gpa....hell of a lot easier to hire jose for cash under the table....

>>136010271
This. An underrated part of the problem.

>>136013016
>WE NEED THESE PEOPLE TO BE OUR SERVANTS
>WHO WILL BE YOUR SERVANTS WHEN WE GET RID OF THEM?
Maybe you shouldn't have a fucking butler, nanny and chauffeur like the rest of america you out of touch, entitled old cunt.
If you feel you need to have one then you should pay through the nose for the luxury of it.

>>136009653
>Wondering who's going to be working those agriculture jobs now
Prisoners. Several states have had seasonal volunteer programs that would well for everyone involved but were killed off for only the sake of appearances.

>>136012798
All that has done successfully was drive down wages because Pajeet works for free, and Makes it impossible to get jobs because employers cheese the system to get pajeet by finding assinine reasons to not hire people who respond to the ads and then adding on "requirements" to the job ad until nobody responds and they can go to the shitting street because " no locals want/can do the job". This is why you see job ads for entry level positions needing 400+ years of experience.

Does the new immigration bill have an actual chance of passing? It seems tough to do.

>>136009653
When I can drive down a random street I the ghetto and not see 15 black 20 something men just sitting on the porch with 40s then I will regret the changes. Until then send a van to pick their unemployed ass and take them to the fields.
Acting we don't have dearth of low skilled works just jerking off all day like damned fool.

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>>136009691
I labor in 100 degree weather and I'm white. The only thing that's going to have to change is that these companies are going to start paying legal citizens decent wage. The only reason Mexicans and other illegal immigrants dominate that Workforce is because they really can't do much else. The work they do is hard as fuck and they're lucky to get minimum wage. these companies exploit the shit out of them

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>>136009653
If it means shipping illegal migrants back, I'll pick the dang lettuce myself until I am able to draft a schematic and file a patent for a mechanization and automation of whatever phase of crop harvesting I'm involved in, and become a millionaire based on the technology my experience produces.

>>136015194
After a quick google it looks like you're spot on. FDR seems to have been the root cause of the over subsidised mess your agricultural industry is in
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_policy_of_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1

>>136009653
send inmates to do the job oh what that is already happening

>>136009653
Not illegals that's for sure, get fucked cali shits

lol? its hitting 102 degrees here in my state today and my dad is 57 years old, arthritis in both wrists and carpel tunnel in his hands

He's weedwacking right now(89 degrees), just called him a little bit ago.

Why can't a young white male do the same work a old illegal mexican can do ?

>>136014530
Pretty fucking effective meme imo, should do well with normies.

>>136009653
>>136009691
>b-b-b-b-but if we abolish slavery agriculture will collapse!
typical democrats

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>>136009691
OY VEYY

YOU CANT TAKE AWAY MY ILLEGAL LABOR

THINK OF THE SHEKELS GOYIM!

SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>136016312
The spic is cheaper.
They pretend white people don't want to do the job de facto, while the truth is they won't do it for scrap money.

>>136009691
(((Feinstein)) demads slaves!

>>136016237
That commie cripple is the cause of a lot of America's problems, but we can't touch anything he did because he was president during WW2.

>>136014861
You must be new, if you're looking for free market conservatives you're in the wrong place.
>>>/r/conservative

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>>136009653
Hey we can speak the English

>>136016312
They can, but they need to actually be paid a non-starvation wage as whites actually have to pay taxes and such.

Right now farmers abusing illegal labour are practically running slave plantations.

>>136009653
Europeans and Poos will do those jobs instead. I rather have Poles and Fingols over Mexicans. They don't lie about being consverative.

>>136009653
>>136009691
>>136010201
>>136010271

All of you need to read this thread:
>>135999883
>>136003059
>>136009016
>>136015952

>>136009880
Dems then: IF WE DONT HAVE SLAVES WHO WILL PICK THW COTTON?
Dems now: IF WE DONT HAVE MEXICANS WHO WILL PICK THE LETTUCE

lol

>>136009653
More illegals work in agriculture than legals.

>>136013341
going to mexico is about the same as dying

>>136009653
>who's going to be working those agriculture jobs now
All the people who thought that getting a liberal arts degree was a good idea

>>136012781
More like quick and easy access to tax funded programs for you and the rest of your illegal family. The loop holes need to be closed, we have all these wonderful awesome programs but they're abused by assholes coming in illegally.

>>136016664
>Right now farmers abusing illegal labour are practically running slave plantations.

not only are they complaining about a lack of workers, but that their illegal workers are getting older
so they can't work as fast
these farmers are willing to spit out their own illegal labor the moment they can't perform and yet the average shitlib speaks as if exploited mexican laborers are a wonderful thing

Since when do blue states produce agriculture?

>>136009653
HOW DARE YOU GOYS TRY TO FIX YOUR ECONOMY??? ACCEPT RAPEFUGEES NOW

>>136013678
FUCKING....THIS! Holy shit, I live in LA and the homeless problem is insane, absolutely insane. Put them all to work!

>>136009653
we in europe are in the same situation. no european can work for the little pay farmers want to pay so we have ukrainians and moldovians and sometimes albanians as farm hands. they get a small sum of money for harvesting and then they go home again. no immigration.

why wouldnt that work in the usa?

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>>136010810
>not advocating for slavery of non-citizens

>>136009653
With 30 million less illegal beanbags in America we wont need as much aggriculture. I would gladly eat less to be free from invasion and bean-niggers waving the Mexican flag and screaming fuck white people as WHITE MONEY IS DOLLED OUT TO THESE FUCKING ROACHES

>>136010051
This

>>136017457
because they stay after their work permit runs out and become the illegal work force that is paid under the table...

>>136017502
They soak up welfare, drive down wages, cause crime, and always illegally vote Democrat.

Just one of those is reason enough to throw them out.

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>>136009653
>Top Dem

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>>136017502
Slavery is for niggers.

You're not a nigger, are you?

they are absolutely right, plants wont grow for american hands, plants only reveal their fruits to the mexicans

if Americans wont do it then shouldent you move your crops to south of the border

>>136017614
dont you have "labour" police that checks companies if they employ illegaly?

should be easy, just drive to a field and check the people. then fine the farmer for employing illegals until he stops. you dont even need to pubish the illegals themselves only the employers.

>>136009653
What do you mean? Most illegals don't want those jobs anymore as plenty of factories, warehouses and stores will hire illegals that require less work for the same pay.

If you were in the agriculture job, you will find that the wages have sky rocketed due to a lot of places being forced to hire legally, not due to government, but because of workers comp and insurance.

>>136009691
>Americans won't labor "in 100 degrees temperature."

Offer proper wages and they will.

>>136009653
>>136009691
>we're for slave labor if it makes my avocados cheaper

>>136016805
Precisely, there was no fucking switch, Dems are fucking retards who constantly want slaves and low wages

>>136009691
>feinstein

>>136010642
Like 3 weeks ago it was on the news, liberals were crying because some farmer had like 30 illegals working his farm for unfair wages, which they didn't care about, but he wasn't housing them properly. They were all living in like 2 buses and a shipping container with only 1 AC UNIT IN EACH ONE! AND THE CORDS HAD EXPOSED WIRES BUUUHUUU THESE POOR BRAVE MEXISOULS!!
Libshits are fucking vermin

>>136009691
You don't need to work in 100 degrees with a combine

>>136018010
Unfortunately here in California we don't have that because "it would scare and upset any poor illegals". And even if someone does try to check they have "worker visas"

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>>136009653
Machines ?

>>136018010
Yeah but it's easy to falsify. Lots of farms will say they have their families do it and hide the illegals or put them up in a hotel. The great thing about illegals is they don't require a paper trail

>>136009653
neck yourself faggot. The work pays well. problem is beans undercut the labor and can afford it because they all cram into a shitshack. They then send back their beangold to beanistan where they can send more beans to America to take away decent labor jobs.

>>136010271
Just like Major Major's father in Catch 22. Reality truly eclipses fiction.

>>136009653
Are dems trying to support below minimum wage?

>>136010201
This isn't really a surprise. The labor shortage is real in the US and did hit the US Agricultural business hard. A fresh set of illegals isn't going to make a dent of the "required" workers.

Lots of businesses here refuse to upgrade or do anything that has caused us to completely lose the technology edge in many industries. We've lost engineers, we've lost technicians, we've lost maintenance guys. A lot of these places think their high school drop out illegal Mexican can fix everything, bypassing relays and sensors.

So, even if we did decide to go full automation with robots, we have no one to fix this stuff because of decades long lousy management and business owners.

>>136013341
Being kicked to Mexico is practically a death sentence.

>>136017502
>implying slavery was beneficial to the everyman and not the Jew

>>136019854
My work takes me across the border into Mexico about once a month.
It is not that bad down there.
A lot of room for an educated person to grow.

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>>136016805
>>>136009880 #
>Dems then: IF WE DONT HAVE SLAVES WHO WILL PICK THE COTTON?
>Dems now: IF WE DONT HAVE MEXICANS WHO WILL PICK THE LETTUCE
Meme this, boys. It's pure gold.

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>>136009653
Fucking tractors pick the food, dipshit.
>NO MORE SLAVE LABOR YOU LIBERAL CUNT

>>136014530
>using communist language

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>>136010764
>European
Ethiopia is not in Europe, Mufume

>>136009653
Oh know you guys he's right!!! All the farmers are just gonna let their crops die HOW WILL WE EVER RECOVER.

t. dumbass

>>136009653
its called Americans.. dumb ass

>>136013016
How the hell are they this blatantly racist and no one says a word? You call a guy a spic one time and it's world war 9.

>>136009791
They cost $600 and last only 6 months you moron. You either have to go back, renew that shit or flee to a McSanctuary city.

>choose the later
>MUH 50% LATINO RATE
>HUR MAKE AMERICA MEXICO AGAIN

>>136014112
I went to school so I couldn't be replaced by a harvesting machine.

>>136009928
>not knowing how your own country laws work

So they will remov your citizenchip too because your 5xgreatgrandparents were britbong wetbacks you faggot. Be careful with what you wish, Cletus.

> "We need more illegal immigrants to do the jobs American citizens won't do!"
> "We need a path to citizenship for those poor illegals!"
> "Yay! The last batch of illegals have been made citizens!"
> "We need more illegal immigrants to do the jobs American citizens won't do!"

Lather, rinse, repeat.

>>136009653
>why does Trump want to take away our economic slaves?

oh no lettuce will be more expensive and people will have to wait for strawberries to be in season.

god forbid people grow their own fruits and vegetables at home like they often used to. can't have that.

>>136019854
I rather stay here than getting intoxicated for harvesting some gringo crap GMO crops for some shekels, thanks.

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>>136009653
Remember back before 1965 where we literally had no agriculture because there were no mexicans to tend the fields?

Also, this is the same argument Southerners made regarding slavery, saying that they needed slaves or else cotton clothing would be too expensive.

Really makes you think.

>>136016719
>implying its cheaper to bring poos from the loos than letting Pedro come in for 6 months to harvest some potatoes and go back with his McShekels

(You) are beyond faggotry, amigo.

>>136022416
That's 3% of what I payed to have a child. I'm a legal citizen. Meanwhile, It's free for you, as long as you pay the 600$ every half year.

>>136016312
>implying Old Mcdonald does that everyday, 12 hours straight for 6 months

Go gib ol' McDonald his pint o' whiskey and oxygen, he'll have another stroke if you dont, Gibby

>>136022557
They wouldn't "remove" citizenship. They would just stop granting it to every border baby born on this side of the border.
Why do liberals and mindless dem slaves always take shit to the extreme? We aren't rounding up the jews, we're securing our borders, as per our laws. Something we should have been doing all along for a long time now.

>>136009653
Get rid of the spics and let the negro's have some jobs. Kys faggot.

>>136009653
Robots duh!

>>136016226
So what's stopping you then? Do it, go and turn (You)rself into a McBillionaire. Maybe its your 250lb belly that doesnt let you stand from your couch faggot.

>>136009653
What happened to the "muh automation" narrative?

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>>136009691
>Americans won't labor in 100 degree heat
>literally an American that did concrete last year in 100+ degree heat 12-14 hours a day

>>136009653
oy vey! not the agriculcha!

>>136009691
Kikestein is a disgusting Jew bitch, construction workers routinely labor in 100 degree heat.

Even more on top of a roof.

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>>136009653
>Implying that labors with green cards are the ones working in the fields and not illegal immigrants.

......California needs to be nuked.

>>136023577
I dont pay that shit because I don't need your shekels. I'm good with my $120 tourist and biznesman visa that will last me another 6 good years to visit mi tia, sisters and cousins every time often :^)

Oh, also we happen to not pay a single dime to procreate because MUH FREE HEALTHCARE, do you even, Cletus?

>>136009691
Oh no, they might be able to exploit slave tier labor anymore. The horror!

>>136013016

>unironically wanting a slave class

>>136023930
Ask (((John Deere))) and the "right to repair" gang and realize why your farm industry is all fucked up and needed to rely on us.

>implying you cant contract Ukranian hackers to repair your fancy and expensive robot McFarm equipment

>>136009653
How the fuck could anybody possibly be dumb enough to believe this bullshit?

>>136009691
>Americans won't labor in 100 degree temperatures

correction. Americans won't labor in 100 degree temperatures at $5/hr. Pay them an honest wage like oil drillers and they'll work no problem

>>136009791
Illegal immigration is literally an extension of the slave trade

>we need cheap serf labor because paying Americans decent wages and improving working conditions in the agricultural sector would cost too much
So, are Democrats abandoning their pretend support for higher wages and more benefits for the working class?

>>136009653
Who cares? Price goes up on some goods and people get better wages.

>>136023728
>taking shit to extreme
>using (((that))) faggot flag

kys

>>136024408
So much this.
NAFTA was literally a way for Democrats to acquire a massive slave labor force as well.

>>136009691
this bitch has destroyed entire white Californian cities with beaners for muh "agriculture" those farms existed literally 100 years ago, before the beaners.

those farmers were MY people who got "prohibited" by the globalists at the top
fuck pelosi

>>136009653

>Top Dem: Lincoln plan to emancipate niggers "would cripple agriculture"

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>>136009653
Lincolns plan to slash slavery "would cripple agriculture"

>>136017502

maybe you didn't hear about this little fact but the dems are specifically against the concept of slavery because of niggers

so it's ironic that they are now advocating for slavery

have I explained this to you in a way that you can grasp? do I need to use smaller words or perhaps some pictures of bunnies or something

I mean genuinely how retarded are you, on a scale from 1 to retarded?

>>136009653
Automated harvesting you leftist retard.

>>136009653
white people you fuck... white peopel do all the farming... i live in the midwest and ive yet to see a fucking beaner working... please show me where all these workers are picking fucking crops.... because we still actually pick crops by hand.... jesus fucking christ you people are fucking retarded

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>>136024692
>commiefornia
>100 years ago
>before the spics

u w0t m8?

>>136024934
>implying a gorillion dollar automated (((John Deere))) fancy McMachine is cheaper than paying Pedro and his cousins to pick up some cherry tomatoe and squash for 6 months
>implying an automated McMachine would not damage delicate crops
>"b-but muh surgeon robots, such 6 gorillion precise, why we dont use that"?

Enjoy your bruised GMO veggies, fagmigo

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Yes however
>young people are too lazy and entitled to work those jobs as the older workers retire or die
They need to hire Mexicans becuse SJWs wont do it. 90% of the farmland on the West coast is in North CA, libtard central

>>136009653
We need slaves to pick cotton.

>>136009880
It's not racist it's fact
Do you think you'll still be paying the same price for grapes, tomatoes and lettuce?
Think again
These people work for less than minimum wage and still flock here to work in 100+ degree heat because it's still better than mexico

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>>136025059
>Year 2017
>-100 years
>Year 1917
>somehow surprising that it was after 1848
Mexican Intelectuals

>>136025059
But 100 years ago was 1917

>>136010940
Low energy shilling ITT

>>136025059
less than 10,000 people in that territory Paco
almost all of them overwhelmingly Spanish descendants.
fuck you indian spic shitheads
real Californians want you gone

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>>136009880
>>WHO WOULD PICK THE LETTUCE?
A Machine will do most of the work. When you only need 10 workers to harvest 2500 acres, is labor really that hard to find? nope. It's just a dog whistle to scare people who know nothing about modern farming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6p3G9pkFc4

>>136009653

All the gender studies kids will finally have jobs.

Also fucking machines that haven't been invented because the agricultural industry runs off slave labor.

>>136025942
>>136026011
>implying spics ever left commiefornia

Have you ever left the island >>136025942
m8? Oh yeah, your forefathers did that and now claim this territory is theirs, but they can't even work it and grow crops for themselves because they cucked themselves to be lazy fags who are as heavy as their trucks. Fuggin pathetic

>>136026354
this guy is trying to insult us for inventing trucks HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
I GROW ALL MY OWN FOOD SO MY MONEY DOESNT GO TO BEANERS!!!!!

smfh nigger read a history book sometime that isnt written by your butthurt beaner government. try wikipedia

you beaners were literally loaded up on trains in the 20s and deported from based California.

>>136009691
If we ban illegal immigration our cheap slaves, ahem *undocumented americans*, then we will lose so much productivity!

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>>136026153
>less than 10k

(You) know you're lying, Cletus.

>implying I want to live in commiefornia

Maybe my cousins like that shithole, but fugg that I'm comfy here in my "3rd world shithole"

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>>136026665
>we invented trucks

Tell me more about your "inventions", Cletus

>I grow my own shit so Paco doesnt get my shekels

Good for you. Just remember to use gloves so your white fragile weeabo hands dont get blisters.

AY nigger read history"
>implying spics are niggers
>says he know history

(You) are autistically amusing, Cletus.

>>136027531
these replies are pathetic, senpai

you stupid beaner fucks all have cancer and clog up our medicaid because of your exposure to glyphosate on farms

happy youre being deported desu