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Time for a massive redpill about the catholic church and how

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Time for a massive redpill about the catholic church and how it's actually satan controlling the world.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/satanism_in_the_vatican.htm
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>>135951169
Bump
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This was pope's reaction to pizzagate.
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Catholic church is the Saturn-cult.
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>>135954095
I'm not even surprised by this.
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>>135951169
This pic is silly, benedict XVI was a decent pope.
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>>135954095
that quote is literally fake news
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>>135951169


True, but many Catholics won't face the music.

The only salvation is Christianity and Jesus Christ.
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Color me surprised
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>>135951169
Totally going to take anything seriously from a person that is the descendant of a sect that left a sect that left a sect that left a sect that left a sect that left a sect (...) that left Luther's sect who left the Church of Christ.

>>135954221
It's called a saturno.
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So when do we start playing this at church instead?
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>>135954834
Fuck, forgot image
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mfw I'm Catholic
Am I the jew?
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>>135954428
There are a lot of pedophiles in the world. Look at all the people claiming to have been gangraped as children by their fathers, mothers, siblings, extended family, cousins, neighbors, strangers. I don't the that pedophilia is high in the catholic church, but they report their numbers to the percentage of pedophiles in the planet. When I was a child, men constantly flirted with me out in public, something like 40+ year olds etc, as I grew older, their interested lowered. I mean, look how much /pol/ tries to justify child pedophilia themselves.
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>>135951169
Satan controls the world through his people, that is, those who are not born again in the spirit. Sure, Roman Catholicism has many powerful people working for Satan (unwittingly), but so does every other major force of power and influence in this world.

Pic related contains a dead sheep within the virgin Mary. This is spiritually symbolic.
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>>135951169
Hardcore Catholic here. desu I don't know what to believe anymore. I'm super red-pilled but part of me thinks the Catholic church is slightly corrupted by Satan, but still has a lot of Priests who are doing the right thing.

Ask me anything, but honestly I can feel the Holy Spirit deep within the church. I went to Lutheran churches and the Holy Spirit only really came when Mass started.

I don't know what it all means but I do know quite a bit. I don't think Catholicism is Satanism but I think Satan does have somewhat of a hand in the Church right now, and it makes me sad.
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>>135954912
I think it's disgusting, but there's good people on /pol/ trying to expose stuff like pizzagate. Pedophilia is one thing, but these are occult secret societies that don't only rape kids, they sacrifice them as well. Don't believe me? Do your own research.
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>>135955259
same. I just ignore what the pope says and only follow everything pre-vatican II
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Don't worry just kill the infidels
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Notice the Kabbala bracelet on Leo's (as in the star sign) hand. Not a coincidence.
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>>135954570
The Western Roman Empire was already crumbling by the time they accepted Christianity, you historically illiterate hohol.
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Let's remember.. this current pope is a Jesuit, who are some of the schemiest people behind many plots and revolutions. They were really pioneers in controlling the public mind through theatre, universities etc.
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>>135955453
I can't stand behind the doctrine that the pope is infallible. I agree with the church because it is the original church but I think that docrtrine is off. I believe with Dante that some Popes are in Hell.
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The jesuita and caanited from germany(goths and gaetas) are on charge of this pepple and news and science, its not the vatican but the royals dudes controling even the goverment
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>>135955962
You know nothing about history, mate.

>>135956028
The Church doesn't teach that he's infallible during every second of every day and that's a common misconception, he's a sinner just like us. He regularly goes to confession. Read more about it yourself: https://www.catholic.com/tract/papal-infallibility
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>>135956152
where do you find that? I've been to tons of Catholic churches and never saw that. I'm red-pilled- I would notice that right away.
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The hexagrams, the crosses of Malta..
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>>135956259
How about this catholic church in Poland?
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>>135951169
The vatican hall..
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>>135951169

The papacy is unironically heretical, always has been.
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>>135956487
huh that's funny, I can only find that on that jesus-is-savior site. I can't seem to find that anywhere else.

Show me where that is an actual Catholic site and I'll believe you. Until then you're full of shit.
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The freemasonic handshake
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>>135956739
>Jesuit trained
I went to Catholic schools taught by Jesuits, but that doesn't make me part of the illuminati..

Come on now, Protestant.

>>135956487
>>135956825
That looks like a picture from a propaganda video from the 1980s, you know, when Poland was controlled by atheist communists.

t. from Poland

www.historyandapologetics.com/2015/02/pope-francis-is-no-liberal-24-examples.html
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The war criminal Blair and the freemasonic handshake with the pope..
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45Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples, 46Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts; 47Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.
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And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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>>135957714
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>>135954982

Looks like a vagoo
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>>135954480
it's the whore of Babylon. they even call themselves the mother of church.
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>>135958281
Bingo.
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Honestly, how much more obvious could they make it?
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>>135954909
Catholicism is an abomination of Satan. Leave it and join a church where you Dont break the second commandment everytime you congegrate. Gods wrath will be upon those who say they're Christians but do not follow his Word.
You cannot pray to the dead either, that's a big no no to The LORD. There's nothing the saints can do for you, praying to them is idolatrous and a huge sin. Thou shalt not have any gods before me. God is a jealous God and he Alone Deserves worship. Veneration is a sin.
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>>135951169

pic related calling anyone anything.
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>>135958830
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>>135955139
He went on trial last week, IIRC. Results aren't out yet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caTodjoE2b0
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>>135958387

Onko virallisen totuuden kaatopaikka tuttu? Olen itsekkin lukenut sieltä tuosta miten jesuiitat kontrolloivat maailmaa.

Jesuits control the world. Offically catholic church doesn't like freemasons but in reality highest freemason is actually jesuit. Jesuits have poisoned popes who opposed them or tried to suppress their influence. It's not coincidence that current pope is jesuit.
Rothschilds are just bankers for the vatican.
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>>135955259
satan masquerades as an angel of light. What seems to be good in your church is not the works of god. Satan can also perform miracles in a way to pretend to be like God but he is far from it. Do not be fooled, I want you saved. You seem to be doubting your church, and that is a red flag. The doubt in your church leaves faith. God bless you anon, I hope you choose the path of good.
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>>135951169
B-but I t-hought Catholicism was the first institution of Christianity. That would mean Christ-cucks (Protestant) are btfo.
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not today satan

Be Catholic

Real Presence of The Eucharist
Apostolic Succession
Scripture & Tradition

"You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it." (Matthew 16:18)
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>>135957714
Slightly incorrect. Instead of a Jew face, the pic should have the face of Satan, and the Jew merely being another body part.
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>>135959130
En ollut kuullut kyseisestä sivusta.. onhan näitä suomalaisiakin jotka näistä vaietuista totuuksista puhuu internetin sopukoissa.. mutta milloin totuus tulee kaikille julki?
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>>135954330
The heretic pope needs to be removed
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>>135958774
God doesn't give a fuck about some hairless apes worshipping him you faggot
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>>135959618

https://erilainen.wordpress.com/

Tuo sivu tuli mieleen sun jutuista. Luin tuolta jo vuosia sitten jesuiitoista ja muusta mielenkiintoisesta. Kannattaa tsekata.
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>>135954428
>be journalist
>have improper grammar in headline
you can't make this up
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>>135959681
He is a rottener! xD
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>>135960000
Checked.
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>>135959297
> No thanks I dont want to be an idolatrous heretic.
Peter Was NOT The Rock Upon Which the Church is Built

The Catholic religion teaches that Jesus chose the Apostle Peter as the "rock" upon which Christ would build the Church. Matthew 16:18 reads "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." A simple cross reference of Matthew 16:18 with 1st Peter 2:7 reveals the true context, "Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner."

JESUS is the cornerstone upon which the Church is built. Even today, architects and builders realize that to build ANY structure, you MUST have a very accurate starting point upon which everything else can be built. Jesus is that Precious and Perfect cornerstone upon which everything in the Christian life is based. Surely, a flawed sinful man such as Peter could NOT have been the cornerstone of the church.

In Matthew 16:23, just five verses after Jesus spoke of the "rock," he called Peter "Satan." There's no way Jesus was referring to Peter as the "rock" in Matthew 16:18. Jesus Christ is the ONLY Rock upon which the Church is built..."For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ" (1st Corinthians 3:11).
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>>135960197

Non-biblical sources of Peter (Apostolic Succession) as Shepherd of The Church

Read & Learn

https://www.catholic.com/tract/origins-of-peter-as-pope
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>>135954480
THIS/THREAD
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>>135960679
what exactly could I learn from an idolatrous religion that puts others before God and akins a man to God? these are all false teachings, just face the music, the rcc is an abomination of Satan. There's no god in your church, no matter how many pearls and gold and treasures you put on it.
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>>135961196

may GOD have mercy on your soul
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>>135962131
May GOD hear your prayers for the first time instead of hearing nothing because you're too busy praying to dead people which is strictly prohibited. Thou shalt not contact the dead. necromancy is a sin.
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>>135959223
Orthodox Church ftw
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>>135955259
>come to orthodoxy brother
seek the truth
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See why I told you Orthodoxy all the time nao ?
>Because un-satan.

Plus I think it will become 4chans religion as per pic
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>>135951169
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>>135958692
That sculpture is horrific and looks kind of like a serpent.
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>>135962864
>beeing orthodox
>not "hating" kikes
choose one
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>>135964668
Sorry ? Orthodoxy is counterkike. But this is what you mean ,right.

>>135962770
saved
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>>135965442
of course its counter serphentkike
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>>135965564
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>>135964914
I like church fathers and saints too theyre pretty cool and the real source of Orthodoxy.
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>>135966062
thats right
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sorry wrong picture
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On that website there was an article about how the NIV has been edited and takes glory away from God. What do you guys think? All I have is an NIV...
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>>135959223

the holy roman empire stole christianity as predicted in the bible
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>>135951169
This shit is controlled op. The Catholic Church HATES free masonry and secret societies. The Church as an institution is spotless and holy but men (with their natural inclination to sin) can fuck up the Church's image. OP is doing Satan's work for him. On another note, fuck the pedophiles. May they (and any other wrongdoers or perverters of innocence/justice larping as holy men) be anathema
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>>135960197

The average person interpreting the bible; this is how you end up with snake handlers and other assorted Baptists.
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>>135951169
The Pope inherited the throne of Babylon.
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>>135956028
come join us in orthodoxy bro. we got what you need.
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>>135954570
The fulfillment and utter nullification of Judaism by the New Law of Christ is why Jews HATE Christianity and reject Jesus. If you are one of the guys who thinks Jews want to degenerate Western society's values (Christian values) then you cannot seriously believe this meme. It's something a Jew would make. "Look, your religion was made by Jews! Abandon it!" What is this 3D chess? Fucking idiot goy
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>>135962321
>ay GOD hear your prayers for the first time instead of hearing nothing because you're too busy praying to dead people which is strictly prohibited. Thou shalt not contact the dead. necromancy is a sin.

Protestants hold such a shallow belief of their religion. They say the words, but rarely understand them.

You either believe in everlasting life or you don't. If you believe that once people are dead, they are gone and out of touch, then you hold heretical views of Christianity. The Kingdom of Heaven isn't a prison. We're barred from it in this body, but the ones who are there aren't inmates or people strumming harps on clouds, unreachable.

Don't you protestants love asking your friends and family to pray for you for everything from getting beer money to winning the lottery? Who better to pray for you than someone right there in Heaven? That's what "praying" to Saints is about. It's not praying to them, it's asking them to intercede on our behalf.
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>>135960679

Catholic.com is your rebuttal? we from shit eating lovers.com advice shit eating
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>>135951169
The option is this, Orthodoxy, or Protestantism and I sure as hell ain't going to listen to a bunch of barely-literate heretics trying to interpret scripture with their limited, everyday perspective.
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>>135958774
You. Are. A. Heretic.

Repent. Luther burns for his crimes against Christian unity. There were only the lies of Satan on his lips
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its a heretic protestants think they're redpilled thread
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>>135951169
Design is never by accident
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>Be YHVH
>LARP as the only god
>"Her derrr, I'm a jealous god!"
>jealousofwho?.jpg
>Tell Abraham to nail his son to a plate
>Command the Jews to kill and destroy
>Picked the subhuman Jews as his people

Nigger just take the Gnostic pill already.... the true peaceful god of the source will be waiting for you
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>>135951169
You have it all wrong. The Catholic Church is the One True Church and it will never die.

Satan and his evil demons have infiltrated the Church to destroy it from within. I have found documents dating back to the 1940s of communists infiltrating the Catholic Church for the sole purpose to destroy it. I even came across the story of a nun from the mid-1800s who became a nun to infiltrate the church adn destroy its teachings, but she was found out.
Why is Satan so intent on destroying the Catholic Church? Because he knows it is the One True Church of Jesus Christ and therefore Satan wants it destroyed.

Satan will come very close to destroying the Catholic Church, it is well on its way now. But, Jesus promised He would never leave His church, and that it would always exist and never die. So no matter how much Satan and his evil demons work to destroy the Catholic Church, a little will always remain, and will be here after the reign of the AntiChrist when Jesus returns for final Judgment.

Remember, Evil may have its hour, but God will have His day
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>>135960679
>>135967785

But yet the disciple of john ignatius wrote a whole different story


>Ignatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church of God the Father, and of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is at Philadelphia, which has obtained mercy through love, and is established in the harmony of God, and rejoiceth unceasingly, in the passion of our Lord Jesus, and is filled with all mercy through His resurrection; which I salute in the blood of Jesus Christ, who is our eternal and enduring joy, especially to those who are in unity with the bishop, and the presbyters, and the deacons, who have been appointed by the will of God the Father, through the Lord Jesus Christ, who, according to His own will, has firmly established His Church upon a rock, by a spiritual building, not made with hands, against which the winds and the floods have beaten, yet have not been able to overthrow it: yea, and may spiritual wickedness never be able to do so, but be thoroughly weakened by the power of Jesus Christ our Lord.
>His Church upon a rock, by a spiritual building, not made with hands, against which the winds and the floods have beaten, yet have not been able to overthrow it:
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>satan is controlling the world
that implies satan is more powerful than god which is clearly wrong.
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>>135966327
both good, I remmeber you read Saint Paisios, have a look here if too if you like https://christconquers.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/elder-paisios-against-zionists-and-cowardly-orthodox/
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>>135968868
Lies. Virtue means nothing without reward. Expectation is everything.
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>>135951169
There is nothing Christian about the Catholic church. The Pope compared our interest in Podesta's emails to a fecal fetish....
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Protest the papacy and all papists. popery is NOT Christian. It never was. Christianity is about the Gospel, period. The finished work of Jesus Christ.
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>>135954330
>there are absolutely no absolutes
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>>135967188
Feels bad knowing you're right. These shillings about catholicism and shit in vatican are helping the cause of destroying the one true church. If the pope is doing it, you dont need to help him, the core point is to resist till the end.
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>>135967735
You pray to GOD and God alone. listen to yourself. The saints were MEN. You're praying to MEN instead of God. That's a SIN.
Timothy 2:5 declares, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." There is no one else that can mediate with God for us. If Jesus is the ONLY mediator, that indicates Mary and the saints cannot be mediators. They cannot mediate our prayer requests to God. Further, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ Himself is interceding for us before the Father: "Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them" (Hebrews 7:25). With Jesus Himself interceding for us, why would we need Mary or the saints to intercede for us? Whom would God listen to more closely than His Son? Romans 8:26-27 describes the Holy Spirit interceding for us. With the 2nd and 3rd members of the Trinity already interceding for us before the Father in heaven, what possible need could there be to have Mary or the saints interceding for us?
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>>135967188
> Doing satans work
> telling people not to venerate statues and to at least try to pray to jesus and to stop being idolatrous heretics.
Sounds like Satan has filled you up with lies brother.
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>>135969687
youd ont 'pray' to saints, you honor them and ask THEY pray for you to the Lord as you would ask a friend, at least in Orthodoxy
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Bible was written by them
Satan = Yaweh = Allah
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>>135954434
BAD GOY!
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>>135970111
you Honor the LORD, not Men. The only Intercedor would be Jesus Christ. you put statues before the LORD. it's a sin.
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>>135969687
>You pray to GOD and God alone. listen to yourself.

So how do you account for all the protestants out there who constantly ask others to pray for them?
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>>135970336
wrong, you WORSHIP the Lord
the bible says "Honour thy father and thy mother"
nothing wrong with that, get your frame pf reference straight
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>>135970996

i dont ask my dead mother to pray for me you are talking nonsense
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>>135969088
>its next level redpill even though i know already about him.we have similar,father gabriel (georgian saint)
and now all this things with oman mosque
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>>135968596
Although the Intentions by your church may look like it's innocent, it is full of idolatry and worship to others than God. It's an abomination to God. you do not worship God when you put others before Him, your church may have been the first, but it does not literally mean you're church is the true church of God.
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>>135970111
das rite
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>>135971220
>i dont ask my dead mother to pray for me you are talking nonsense

You said, you don't need other people to pray for you. How do you account for all the protestants, you probably included, who ask other people to pray for them?

As for dead people, don't you believe in everlasting life?
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>>135951169
It's pretty obvious right?
I mean, the way the pope is acting shows he loves this world more than heaven.
All this "save the world" bullshit, we were warned about it.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
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>>135971415

i don't pray for them if a person is sick i ask god to heal him , but everything goes through god.

>As for dead people, don't you believe in everlasting life?

No we lost that after eating the apple , christ will give life eternal after the second comming
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Protestants. Question for you. Who determined what books in the Bible to be official? If they say, belonged to an organization, what would that be exactly called?
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how fucking retarded do you have to be to actually believe in religion

jesus fucking christ
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>>135951169
>Jew flag
Sage
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>>135971913
you better belive in eastern othodoxy if you want to save what's left in you
you foreskinless americunt
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>>135956257
t. jesuit shill
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>>135971280
There are many saints and holy elders in Orthodoxy , even contemorary ones, that's what Catholics don't talk about and Protestants don't even know of .
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>>135951169
It's just some boy grooming cult that collects money for no reason.
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>>135971894
>what would that be exactly called?

common sense?

even today you can read all the lost books and see what does not belong there
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>>135971332
Everything you wrote proves you know absolutely nothing about the Catholic Church. It is the One True Church, it is the only Church with Apostolic succession. No other Church has any valid claim to Apostolic succession.

The Catholic Church does not put anyone before God, so I don't know what you mean by that. We believe in the Holy Trinity - God The Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ_, and God the Holy Ghost.

There is absolutely no, and never has been, idolatry and worship to others in the Catholic Church. That is yet another Satanic lie spread by evil people to destroy the Church.
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>>135951169
Kek if they do an std test and find all the boys and priests have the same strain of herpes.
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>>135971913
always some kike interjects to LARP the pagan or atheist,fuck scumbag kikes, you are serpentine and theres no victory to that , only death

>>135972357
> you know absolutely nothing about the Catholic Church. It is the One True Church, it is the only Church with Apostolic succession. No other Church has any valid claim to Apostolic succession.

yeah drop the BS pal, we are Orthodox and we know better than that , you are a fallen church and even your own Catholic saints have warned you of it, the Great Apostacy.

>Obviously Orthodoxy has apostolic succession and isn't a schismatic heretic as the cathols, since it's the old church .
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>>135972357
>. It is the One True Church, it is the only Church with Apostolic succession. No other Church has any valid claim to Apostolic succession.


muh church muh church , keep repeating it and you will keep believing its true , jesus was a protestant he protested the man made traditions of the pharisees
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>>135970996
I'm not a protestant. I'm simply pointing out how idolatrous your religion is.
> how do I account for people asking others to pray for them?
if they're alive and need spiritual help then yes, a group of people praying to Jesus is not wrong, praying to jesus is the only way to get to God mind you. “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6
speaking to the dead is forbidden, God knows and sees all, why would you have to pray to someone who's dead for God to hear you, it's like you're saying God isnt almighty and that is blasphemy.
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>>135972219
god bless ya anon
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>>135971797
also this.
necromancy is a severe sin.
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>>135972357
veneration is idolatry. you do not pray to God but assume his omniscient and omnipresent nature is lacking and therfore use intercedors to "pray". btw when you pray, you worship and when you worship anyone BUT GOD. It's a very severe sin. it's not rocket science. you say I don't know anything about the Catholic Church, but what I DO know is that it's not a church of God.
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>>135973062
IXXI hmm
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>>135956259
I just moved to Dekalb, IL and the middle one is in the Catholic Church there almost exact replica. I pointed it out to my wife during mass when she questioned me after I kept looking up at it. Really makes you start to wonder...
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>>135960197
Allow me to help you.

Peter is just part of the foundation, not THE ROCK himself. Jesus is the foundation cornerstone.

>(Ephesians 2:19-22)... 20and YOU have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone. 21In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. 22In union with him YOU, too, are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit.

Peter is EQUAL to the other apostles as a foundation stone. He has no superiority over them.

>(Revelation 21:14) The wall of the city also had twelve foundation stones, and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Peter HIMSELF identified the rock mass as Christ himself.

>(1 Peter 2:4-8) Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God, 5YOU yourselves also as living stones are being built up a spiritual house for the purpose of a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6For it is contained in Scripture: “Look! I am laying in Zion a stone, chosen, a foundation cornerstone, precious; and no one exercising faith in it will by any means come to disappointment.” 7It is to YOU, therefore, that he is precious, because YOU are believers; but to those not believing, “the identical stone that the builders rejected has become [the] head of [the] corner,” 8and “a stone of stumbling and a rock-mass of offense.” These are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were also appointed.

>(1 Corinthians 10:4) and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they used to drink from the spiritual rock-mass that followed them, and that rock-mass meant the Christ.

The entire Bible identifies Jesus as the rock-mass and the cornerstone of the Church. Not Peter.
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>>135972744
overcomplicated nonsense , you are fine with remebering any dead it helps if you pray for them even after departure, and you can talk to saints as they are holy and sit on the Lords table .

>>135972830
Necromancy is not thinking of a dead saint , is talking to spirits through wija boards and spells and its forbidden because they are demonic imposters and not really your dead relatives or something

>>135972829
thank you my friend, God bless us all

>>135973129
youhave been answered here
>>135970111
>>135971144
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>>135972661
they love the world too much. that's what's wrong with them.
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>>135951169
I'm gonna keep being a good Catholic and shit but this pope has got to fucking die seriously. Hopefully, the next one will be anti-Islam like some others say he is.
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>>135951169
all these muh orthodoxy really activate my almonds, YOU ARE ALL FOOLS! NESTORIUS WAS RIGHT! pic related, mfw I read all that orthodoxy bullshit
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>>135951169
That isn't the true Catholic church. Anyone who wants to know the truth about the Catholic church should look into the second vatican council. It has become abundantly clear that communists (among others) deliberately infiltrated the church and set about trying to destroy it from within by teaching heresy and evil.
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>>135973268
necromancy is talking to the dead. Although they sit at the lords table it doesnt change the fact that they are dead. when you ask you're talking to them and talking to the dead is necromancy no matter how saintly someone is they are still men and not God. The only way through god is through Jesus.
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>>135973281
you seem to pick breadcrumbs here and there from the sayings in these thread to sow discord

I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of the 3-4 JIDF shills who came here the other day and said JIDF doesnt exist and it's satire ... must have been total noobs not knowing where they entered haha

>>135973564
yes well who cares what you think, you're a catholic and your kids are fiddled while you think you belong to real church and not a bureaucracy of finctionaries, get lost spaniard
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Gay
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>>135973766
>pro nestorian
>catholic
HAH! you really know nothing about orthodoxy, google Nestorius he was bishop of Constantinople
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>>135973878

Fuck of fag
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>>135973673
You have no idea what you talk about , you actually don't know at all , you just keep the semantics without knowing the accurate description of the phenomenon, it's literally your mind shitting and you present it as real, get lost you too

>>135973878
You bore me, Orthodoxy or Death the conclusion
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>>135951169
>Say-tan is bad because those say-tan worshiping kikes told me so
Fucking retard
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>>135973766
If by picking breadcrumbs you mean qouting the bible then you're correct. I'm only reiterating God's word.
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>>135973986
I'd rather fuck you faggot
>>135973998
frankly I think the best christian faith would be a combination of Nestorianism (good theology) and Luthernaism (Anti-Israel, anti-mudslims, very pious)
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>>135971913
Many of the greatest minds the world has ever known were religious you fedora tipping faggot
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>>135973998
>quoting the bible which is God's word is wrong and I'm misinformed by qouting God's word
you really want to make God angry dont ya?
God's word is very real.
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>>135954095
Can we storm the vatican? Would be so dope. Like a really fun video game. Go to the catacombs and catch the black pope. I bet they have some super gnarly shit down there.
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>>135972357
>Everything you wrote proves you know absolutely nothing about the Catholic Church. It is the One True Church, it is the only Church with Apostolic succession. No other Church has any valid claim to Apostolic succession.

“whenever it [the term “apostle”] is applied to individuals in later Christian literature, the use of the term is metaphorical. The church has never had apostles in the N[ew] T[estament] sense since the first century.”—The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible, edited by G.A. Buttrick, 1962, Vol. 1, p. 172.

“Historical evidence does not exist for the entire chain of succession of church authority.”—John McKenzie, The Roman Catholic Church (New York, 1969), p. 4.

“... the scarcity of documents leaves much that is obscure about the early development of the episcopate ...”—The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Vol. I, p.696.

How holy is your (((Apostolic)) Succession?

Pope Paul VI

“The peoples of the earth turn to the United Nations as the last hope of concord and peace; We presume to present here, together with Our own, their tribute of honor and of hope.”—The Pope’s Visit (New York, 1965), Time-Life Special Report, p. 26.

Jesus Christ

(John 18:36) Jesus answered: “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”
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>>135974007
kikes worship satan anyway ask rabbi finkelstein , he says it clearly in his interviews

>>135974135
you don't seem to understand what you quote , the breadcrumbs is the hearsay you bring back in your arguments .

It's typical of a non-believer
>>135974414
as a kike you will never understand Christianity , much less Orthodoxy because you are limited to a childish worldview without windows .

>>135974189
more schismatic advertisement by JIDF , you guys are predictable and imbeciles basically
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>>135973653
the Catholic Church is a church of traditions and not of faith
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>>135971332
Why cant schismatics and pagan mongrels understand this?

We do not worship any other god than Jesus Christ, the man, the God and the essence, the perfect Triangulum, equilibrium trough stars and cosmos and perfect fruit between science and religion, the one holy catholic church, if you don't get any of this, any about how God is capable of molding matter, space, time and physics to its convenience, I don't know what you do with your free time

And no, the virgin Mary is not a goddess and we do not "worship her", it would be hard to explain for a heretic
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>>135951169
i go to a catholic church regularly, i dont think its a bad place, its very clean and holy
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>>135974628
I'm not a kike. but keep assuming just like you assume you know actual Christianity.
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>>135959171
Shut up faggot. The church has noh But to do with god. That they have served as middle man for so long is fucking shocking but they do have bucks innit.
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>>135974650
why would you bow down to mary? She was a common woman and nothing else.
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>>135951169
nigerian pls, martin luther was possessed when he created protestantism an u be calling us demonic.
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>>135974849
Sorry read that wrong. Anyways, god is love my dudes. It really is that simple. There are deeper spiritual truths of course but if you stick to god is love you can't go wrong.
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>>135974650
and call priests Father, you do know God is the only Father.
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>>135971797
>No we lost that after eating the apple , christ will give life eternal after the second comming

So where do people go after they die now?
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>>135973653
>>135973653
>It has become abundantly clear that communists (among others) deliberately infiltrated the church and set about trying to destroy it from within by teaching heresy and evil.

That alone proves it's not the true church. That should not be possible. I know evil men did infiltrate good in the Bible like all the coups against David, Solomon's foreign wives turning him to idols, Judas to Jesus, etc. However, they were removed and dealt with. This has never happened in centuries with the Catholic Church. It has been fully infiltrated with evil since the beginning only to be replaced with perverted bishop after bishop and pope after pope. The closest attempt was the Reformation but that became corrupt as well.
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>>135975016
to sleep until the second coming.
>>135974973
this guy gets it. God is love, not religion amd traditions.
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>>135974809
I know Christianity, you know reading as in you read a text and that's it . I told you already without the inherited frame of reference that has been kept from the beginning (eg . Orthodoxy) you understanding is open to interpretation and is not a recognition of a specific situation or phenomenon .

Christianity is an exact science and it's not what you think it is. It's understanding, not a rendition
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>>135951169
Fuck of with that evangelical propaganda Cleetus, go back to rolling around on the floor.
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>>135972593
>yeah drop the BS pal, we are Orthodox and we know better than that , you are a fallen church and even your own Catholic saints have warned you of it, the Great Apostacy.
Our great Catholic Saints warned us of the AntiChrist and of the infiltration of the Church by Satan, which we see going on now. But, again, Jesus said His church will never die, so Satan will NOT be successful in destroying the Catholic Church. It will survive. Catholics win!!!
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>>135975126
>to sleep until the second coming.

Just admit you protestants have no clue what Christianity is, and you just make it up as you go along.
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>>135974911
she was prophesied in the old testament, she wasnt any common woman, she was chosen by God since the beginning to carry the son once He assumed flesh.

Isaiah 7:14 "Then he said, "Listen now, O house of David! Is it too slight a thing for you to try the patience of men, that you will try the patience of my God as well? 14"Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel. "He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good.
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>>135974911
>A common woman giving birth to the son of God who is also a incarnation of God
>Heretics being this retarded

For God to be incarnated it had to be made in clean, as simple as that, you do not cook with a rusty/dirty pan, you either clean it or buy a new one
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>>135975234
cough cough , Orthodox Church
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>>135974628
you know that both catholics and orthodoxs are schismatic too and also that since the fall of Constantinople all orthodox churches stablished their own patriarchs whitouth consent from constantinople making themselves also schimatic, soo well here the only imbecile is you
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>>135956152
It's the eye of God in a triangle to represent the Holy Trinity, there's literally nothing wrong with the symbol you protestant gook faggot.
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>>135975287
robespierre did nothin wrong, he was the most close to fascism of the french revolution
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>>135975287
>Retarded sandnigger stories

off yourself
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>>135972661
>jesus was a protestant he protested the man made traditions of the pharisees
Jesus was not a Protestent, you don't even know what you are talking about. Protestants did not even exist until early 1500s.

The Catholic Church is the One True Church of Jesus Christ and will never die. End of.
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>>135975151
You obviously dont understand Christianity if you actually believe catholic dogma. was not jesus called a heretic when he told the truth?
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>>135975151
You obviously dont understand Christianity if you actually believe catholic dogma. was jesus not called a heretic when he told the truth?
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>>135975315
wrong information, take this redpill here , a schismatic is he wo tears himself away from something

you are still deeply asleep, yes
>as if your catholic priest would come and tell you,you know son, we made many errors and are basically imposters now, no, he will tell you we are the holy church

>>135975613
>>135975656

I'm an Orthodox , and we hold the truth pretty well, we know because our holy saints describe the other world and we cross reference with the text, you , what you have as a reference ? your mind only , until it becomes holy, talk again
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>>135975287
you literally bow to her because you think she can hear you. That's a sin dude. you should reay be praying to jesus just saying.
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>>135958800
Liar, the Vatican shares the property with other organizations. MGIO named the telescope because they knew they'd be sharing it with the Vatican. Typical protestant, always lying. You're no better than the kikes Xinping.
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>>135975799
oh look this is the lies baptists write on internet , check how they falsified the tree

>THIS HERE IS THE REAL ONE

Baptists= liars
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>>135975799
yes and they are schismatic because they reject the ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople as their head of the church and the christendom, I will say it again, you know nothing about orthodoxy, so stop LARPing as an orthodox
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>>135975799
you're far from holy. no one is Holy but God. if by your logic not a word would escape our mouths since everyone is a sinner.
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>>135973129
>I don't know anything about the Catholic Church
Yeah, it is very obvious. So, suggestion: either learn about the Catholic Church or shut it. You show your ignorance when you presume to know what is wrong with the Catholic Church. you know nothing about catholicism. If you continue to lecture Catholics on their Faith, then learn something about it first or shut it.

>you do not pray to God but assume his omniscient and omnipresent nature is lacking and therfore use intercedors to "pray".
This makes no sense. I have no idea what you are trying to say or what you mean.
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>>135951169
Catholicism may have had its satanic influences and infiltration at certain times in its history, and even now is doing a pretty horrible job (imho they shouldn't even be talking to the media) they are the furthest thing in their history from being satanic
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>>135959223
The Roman Catholic church occurred when early Christianity became legalized within the Roman Empire however compromises were made at this time adapting it to the previous Roman religion:

Saints worship
An earthly father for the Church,
Mary being holy
Acts of penance being needed for the forgiveness of sins.
Mass being a ceremony eating Christ's flesh (Ritual Cannibalism)
Bible reading in Latin to keep plebs in the dark

None of these mentioned in the New Testament to be part of the faith.
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>>135976105
we have holy saints and elders = i am holy
holy is who has the holy spirit, God is holy because he pours it out Himself on us

go back to the drawing board

>>135976100
no, they are schismatic because they told the other 4 churches that the pope is the infallible vicar of Christ , can he prove it? no? get lost then
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>>135976470
>we have holy saints and elders =/= i am holy
I'm tired
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>>135976105
>Using the EU flag to attack a nation that isn't part of the EU

Typical EU tyrant.
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>>135974594
Pretty lame sources to try to prove Apostolic succession does not exist. Pretty obvious they have an agenda, as these three sources were written right after Vatican II, the first major destruction of the Catholic Church by Satan and his minions. Apostolic Succession does exist and it exists only in the Catholic Church. You mad? Catholics win!!
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>>135975278
That is true but she was just a woman, nothing more.

She was a sinner because she offered a poor person's sacrifice at the temple with two turtle doves.(Luke 2:22-24) By presenting it, Mary acknowledged that she, like all other imperfect humans, had inherited the consequences of the sin of Adam, the first human.—Romans 5:12.

This made Mary into nothing more but an average woman.
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>>135976470
I do not know why you continue with this, I'm not catholic, neither I like the pope and your argument has nothing to do with what I have said, well you know nothing about orthodosxy, do you know to read? yes? then say what was wrong with what I said in >>135976100
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>>135976288
right because pointing out that they dont follow the second commandment means I know nothing about the Catholic Church, get real you know that idolatry is wrong and a sin. I'm not lecturing but pointing out that they do not obey God and worship him as he is to be worshipped
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>>135976707
>Apostolic Succession does exist and it exists only in the Catholic Church. You mad? Catholics win!!

Well I guess you got me there. How could I ever recover?
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>>135976884
cont. and ommiting the second commandment isnt a good thing maybe this is why your church is full of sin.
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>>135976879
yes theres is something wrong, because at the time there was no patriarch boss, there still isnt today , the patriarch of constantinople is the guy who says 'we start our council' and 'our council has ended' , he is like a MC, if something is not agreed by all other patriarchs together it;s not accepted .

read more, over and out
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>>135951169
the catholics are a roman organization that survived the fall of rome. nuns are vestal virgins. in the new testament a woman cannot speak in church. what role can nuns play in the church realistically with that restriction?

its open defiance of the word. they have the big statues of jesus on the cross. thats a damn idle that they have people kneel and pray to. also against the rules. they practically worship marry . also against the rules. only god is to be worshiped

confession is meant to get you to ask forgiveness. in the bible its clearly laid out that if you ask forgiveness for something then do it again you were never sorry in the first place and its a insult to god. they would have you ask forgiveness for "impure thoughts"
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>>135951169
perhaps this link belongs here

joyofsatan.org
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>>135976707
ehem and what about anti-popes? and what about sedevacantism? the current pope IS an heretic, not only him there have been plenty before Francis, this means the holy see is occupied even worse it has been usurped (and many times), the apostolic sucession has been broken many times, it does not any longer exist
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>>135976743
>This made Mary into nothing more but an average woman.
WRONG. The Blessed Mother is the Mother of God the Son. She was the vessel that brought the God Man to Earth.

As Mary was truly the mother of Jesus, and as Jesus was truly God from the first moment of His conception, Mary is truly the mother of God. Even the earliest Fathers did not hesitate to draw this conclusion as may be seen in the writings of St. Ignatius, St. Irenaeus, and Tertullian. The contention of Nestorius denying to Mary the title "Mother of God" was followed by the teaching of the Council of Ephesus proclaiming Mary to be Theotokos in the true sense of the word.

Mary's complete exemption from actual sin is confirmed by the Council of Trent (Session VI, Canon 23). Theologians assert that Mary was impeccable, not by the essential perfection of her nature, but by a special Divine privilege. Moreover, the Fathers, at least since the fifth century, almost unanimously maintain that the Blessed Virgin never experienced the motions of concupiscence.
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>>135977156
no there is nothing wrong, most orthodox churches do not any longer recognise the ecumenical patriarch as head of the church and leader of the christendom this means they rejected the TRUE orthodoxy in favour of a regional form of orthodoxy, I said nothing wrong and I recommend you to stop LARPing (and the position of bishop of Constantinople never ceased to exist, there is no reason to justify not recognising him as head of the church)
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>>135977011
>How could I ever recover?
Become Roman Catholic.
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>>135977439
She is nothing but a humble woman. she is special yea in a sense but she is not divine and she is not to be worshipped.
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>>135977316
is *not occupied
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>>135951169
>reading the other "articles" on that website
Hmmm....seems credible enough...
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>>135975390
I've studied this stuff for about 10 years now. This has never been a Christian symbol.
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>>135977316
>it does not any longer exist
Yes, it does. Every Bishop, every Cardinal, every Priest is of the line. It is not just Popes. Again, I am really sick and tired of people who know nothing about Catholicism presuming to lecture us about our Faith.

Jesus does not lie. He promised His church would never die. He knew Satan would infiltrate it and try to destroy it, it is written in the Book of Revolutions. The Catholic church still exists and will always exist. It will outlive Satan and his demonic followers. Therefore, the Apostolic succession will always exist since that is the lineage of the Catholic Church.
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Russian orthodox is master race
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>>135977782
Oh, look, the anon who knows nothing of Catholics once again claiming to know about Catholicism.

Catholics believe that worship is due to God alone. Catholics do, however, venerate Mary. In other words, we honor our Blessed Mother with great reverence and devotion because she is the Mother of God. Mary is the model of perfect love and obedience to Christ. God preserved Mary from sin, and she conceived our Lord by the power of the Holy Spirit, bringing Christ into our world. Catholics can’t help but honor the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is full of grace, the Mother of God and our Mother.
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>>135978005
no, no they aren't just look the line has been broken many times, look at this pope:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_IX
The line has been broken before, and line continues to be broken today, not only the actual Pope is an heretic which would mean that the holy see is vacant as it has been usurped but also many before him, the apostolic succesion does not exist
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>>135977439
>>135977439
>Mary's complete exemption from actual sin is

Doesn't change the fact that she offered a sacrifice in forgiveness of sins in accordance with the Mosaic Law.

>(Leviticus 12:6) Then at the fulfilling of the days of her purification for a son or for a daughter she will bring a young ram in its first year for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a turtledove for a sin offering to the entrance of the tent of meeting to the priest.

>(Leviticus 12:8) But if she cannot afford enough for a sheep, she must then take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering and one for a sin offering, and the priest must make atonement for her, and she must be clean.’”

According to Luke, Mary did exactly as the Mosaic Law demanded of a woman who had just given birth: To give an animal sacrifice as atonement for her sins.

If the woman could not afford a ram she and she was of low income she was allowed to sacrifice two pigeons or two turtle-doves to COVER OVER SIN.

By doing this Mary acknowledges SHE WAS A SINNER AND NEEDED ATONEMENT.
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>>135966686

King james only. No excuses
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>>135978374
what you do is idolatry, you pray to a woman for divine intercesion, you should not, you should only pray to God, you pray to saint and you should not, what about praying only to GOD do you not understand?
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was about to enter, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet to worship him.
26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
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>>135978374
right and you cant see that when you venerate and "honor" her instead of God, you're Sinning. She is nothing but a woman who was chosen by God, she was used by the Lord and yes respect is important because she was the mother of jesus but to bow down to her and praying to her is sinful. The only one who should revered and worshipped is God.
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>>135951169
I love the Catholic Church. It's the only hope.
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>>135978439
>By doing this Mary acknowledges SHE WAS A SINNER AND NEEDED ATONEMENT.
Nope. Wrong again!
The Blessed Mother is not subject the the law but in humility, submits to it:

Observing the law of Moses they take Jesus to the temple to present Him to the Lord. According to the Law the firstborn male child of every family should be consecrated to the Lord.
Mary offers her Son to the Father, then ransoms Him back at the price paid by the poor. Jesus is not subject to the law of Moses, yet to teach obedience, submits to it. Mary is not subject to the law of purification, yet in humility she submits to it. God had revealed to Simeon that he would not see death until he had seen the Messiah. Recognizing the Child, he prays: "Now you can dismiss your servant in peace. You have fulfilled your word." After they fulfill all the Law requires they return to Nazareth.
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>>135978830
>>135978840
I will follow over 2000 years of Catholic theology, written by great men, many great Saints (male and female), who devoted their lives to studying Jesus and the Apostles and their words. I believe what the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches. I will not change my mind based on two anons on /pol/.

You two are not Catholic. You two have not spent years studying it. I am not about to listen to two anons telling me about the Blessed Virgin and what is right and what is wrong in Catholicism. I am sorry you feel the way you do, you both have obviously been led astray. But, you have a right to your own belief.
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>>135979503
>>135979016

(1 Corinthians 4:6) Now, brothers, these things I have transferred so as to apply to myself and A•pol′los for YOUR good, that in our case YOU may learn the [rule]: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,” in order that YOU may not be puffed up individually in favor of the one against the other.

(Matthew 15:3) In reply he said to them: “Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition?

(Titus 1:14) paying no attention to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn themselves away from the truth.

(Revelation 22:18) “I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll;

(Galatians 1:8) However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed.

(1 John 4:3) but every inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist’s [inspired expression] which YOU have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world.

(Deuteronomy 4:2) YOU must not add to the word that I am commanding YOU, neither must YOU take away from it, so as to keep the commandments of Jehovah YOUR God that I am commanding YOU.

(Proverbs 30:6) Add nothing to his words, that he may not reprove you, and that you may not have to be proved a liar.
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>>135979503
I have, I was catholic come on anon, I'm spanish, this place is the second brothel of the church, I know a lot of catholicism and about christianism and I can say that catholicism is not the true church, look at Peter, he was a normal person who married and had one daughter and prayed only to God, now look at the popes now they are all pedos praying to black virgins, I am tired of catholic anon going all rightful, here it is straight from the bible:
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was about to enter, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet to worship him.
26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
soo either counter-argument to prove your points or GTFO
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>>135979885
*catholic anons, not only you, there are plenty of people like you
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>>135979016
Where did you copy that from?

>https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Observing+the+law+of+Moses+they+take+Jesus+to+the+temple+to+present+Him+to+the+Lord.%22&oq=%22Observing+the+law+of+Moses+they+take+Jesus+to+the+temple+to+present+Him+to+the+Lord.%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...24539.29770.0.30030.2.2.0.0.0.0.2537.2629.1j9-1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0.DyVPJiwni9A

You ignore the Bible. That sacrifice of two turtle-doves was meant FOR THE MOTHER, not the new-born child. Read the verses in Leviticus. Read where they say

>Then at the fulfilling of the days of her purification
>and the priest must make atonement for her, and she must be clean.’”
>her purification
>atonement for her"
>she must be clean

This offering WAS MEANT FOR MARY. Not Jesus.
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>>135980186
>Where did you copy that from?
Under the Fourth Joyful Mystery: the Presentation

http://www.rosary-center.org/joyful.htm

You are welcome to interpret the Bible as you wish. I follow Catholicism and believe what they teach.
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>>135979885
lmao. what does peter have anything to do with animal that is being put in place by other animals? none of those animals in vatican doesn't represent you in front of god. i don't care what lies they say today or tomorrow. in the end, it's just an animal. peter could be a man, but god put trust in him, not other animals.
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>>135980685
>>135980685
>I follow Catholicism and believe what they teach.

(Proverbs 3:5) Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding.

(Proverbs 28:26) He that is trusting in his own heart is stupid, but he that is walking in wisdom is the one that will escape.
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>>135980855
except that the catholic church teaches that the pope and priest of the church are your intermediaries with God and you just agreed with me by saying that, the catholic church is not the true church
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>>135979885
>I was catholic come on anon, I'm spanish
I assume a large country such as Spain has people of many religtions.

>I can say that catholicism is not the true church,
I am sorry for you.

>I am tired of catholic anon going all rightful,
After years of keeping my mouth shut and never seeing a true, Faithful Catholic defending our great religion during these past many years as it has been constantly bashed and trashed in the media, in Hollywood, by evil people wanting to destroy it, I am done staying quiet. I am not that educated on Catholicism, I am still reading and learning, but I will do my best to defend the the Catholic Church since very few are doing so, and to educate those who want to know the Truth of the religion, instead of the hateful lies spread by everyone else.

>>135979871
>>135979885
That is fine you quote directly from the Bible, but again, you can interpret it anyway you want. I choose to follow how the Catholic Church interprets these passages since, again, it has been studied for over 2000 years by the greatest minds of the world.
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>>135981174
no.
you are just lying to yourself in a attempt to justify your atheism and blasphemy.
you will go to hell and you can feel it.
now you just have to wake up one day and be there.

so enjoy it there, you are there forever.
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>>135981212
>“The name of God ... is neither to be used or pronounced... for the translation of the Biblical text in modern languages, ... -a letter dated June29, 2008, to presidents of Catholic bishops’ conferences, the Vatican

>(Jeremiah 23:27) They are thinking of making my people forget my name by means of their dreams that they keep relating each one to the other, just as their fathers forgot my name by means of Ba′al.

The Catholic Church OVERSTEPS God's word. They demand the name of God to be censored and God hates that.
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>>135966686
Nobody checked the digits...
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>>135981212
>you can interpret it anyway you want.


(Genesis 40:8) ... “Do not interpretations belong to God? ..."

(Proverbs 28:5) Men given to badness cannot understand judgment, but those who are seeking Jehovah can understand everything.
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>>135981212
>I assume a large country such as Spain has people of many religions.
Each day it has less catholics I can assure you that.
>I am sorry for you.
Don't be sorry for me, be sorry for yourself.
>After years of keeping my mouth shut and never seeing a true, Faithful Catholic defending our great religion during these past many years as it has been constantly bashed and trashed in the media, in Hollywood, by evil people wanting to destroy it, I am done staying quiet. I am not that educated on Catholicism, I am still reading and learning, but I will do my best to defend the the Catholic Church since very few are doing so, and to educate those who want to know the Truth of the religion, instead of the hateful lies spread by everyone else.
Well you live in USA a country with a protestant majority so don't expect people to rally behind the roman brothel, the KKK got many things right, hating the catholic church is one of them AND I will also say, seeing the much you like to say the jews are against the catholic church, that the catholic church supports zionism
>That is fine you quote directly from the Bible, but again, you can interpret it anyway you want. I choose to follow how the Catholic Church interprets these passages since, again, it has been studied for over 2000 years by the greatest minds of the world.
There is not a lot left to interpret, unless you don't know to read, it's easy let me tell it to you:
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was about to enter, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet to worship him.
26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
>Interpretation, do not worship me I am only a man
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>>135981519
>blah blah go to hell
I am christians please fuck off
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>>135951169
>Protestants
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>>135981994
>25 As Peter was about to enter, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet to worship him.
>26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”

saints will never try to put themselfs on the same level with jesus.
jesus is a son of god, saints are men and we are just disgusting animal.
sort your self out bro.
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>>135982131
>pic name
most of them are alcoholics
>>135982394
then you should not PRAY to them or VENERATE them like they were God neither ask for them INTERCESION in matters which are reserved for God, I hope you get now what’s wrong with saints and virgins’ worship
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>>135974491
naaah. nothing to see in there
*yawn*
getting sleepy.
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>>135982601
i'm not worshiping any one else than god himself. you should at least read commandments bro and chill out. saints are not gods. jesus is not god either. but they represent the god's truth, the ability that was given to the them by a hand of god. i think that it's written somewhere, that they even tried to refuse it when the choice of offered, because they knew they were sinners and they couldn't accept it, so they tried to ran.
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>>135981212
He is a joo!!

A proud spaniard would be always catholic!!!

Spain exist because of that, It formed and united on Catholicism.
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>>135951169
>jesus-is-savior
Isn't the guy running it a confirmed pedo himself?
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>>135983031
I do not even know what to answer

>>135983079
Paco deja de beber tan pronto, no son ni las diez de la mañana
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>>135982601
Que te callas judio de mierda
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>>135983531
oh common, don't be fused with con. try me.
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>>135977553
what LARP, Orthodoxy is decentralized I told you already, the Patriarch of Constantinople is a Master of Ceremony , no a 'Leader"

Do you have ears to listen ? They all recognize him as head of Council , not their captain. Unless EVERYONE AGREES , the Patriarch can do NADA,
>but why ?
ORTHODOXY IS NOT CATHOLICISM, it doesnt havea pope
end of story
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>>135983655
uy un mejicano, que miedo
>>135983675
sorry your baits are shit
>>135983794
the bishop of constantinople is the head of the orthodox church, the ecumenical patriarch, yes there are local patriarch but they are not ecumenical patriarch only the bishop of constantinople is, as well he should name all patriarch, orthodox regional church patriarch claim to be the leaders of their churches and are not named by him, as I said you know nothing about orthodoxy, you did not even know Nestorious was bishop of constantinople, THIS IS THE END OF THE STORY
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>>135984102
no , you are a spaniard far away from Orthodoxy , you translate everything in catholic terms ORTHODOXY IS NOT CATHOLICISM, HELLO? the PATRIARCH PRESIDES THE COUNCIL , HELLO? HE has HISOWN AGENDA that if other PATRIARCHS DONT LIKE , they DONT ACCEPT , HELLO? like happened recently.

you are imbecile and Nestorius was a heretic, you two should marry and go to hell
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>>135984102
>sorry your baits are shit
no.
your baits are shit.
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>>135984632
hello you are an imbecile, hello all patriarch are appointed by the ecumenical patriarch, hello? other patriarch can't begin an ecumenical council thing which they do, hello? he always was the leader of the orthodox church and is above all other regional patriarch, hello? you don't know a shit about orthodoxy, and you better shut up your nasty mouth you have no right to talk about Nestorius like that, you damned imbecile, go die and you will welcomed in the place you belong to, hell
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>>135951169
>red pill
>posts a link to some lunatic Protestard site
Great job. Anyone who buys into what that utter trashcan of an article says is a 5/5 moron.
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>>135984847
you are truly trying to trigger me, don't you? then you better start working in your baits
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>>135955139

For what it's worth, I think the case against Cardinal Pell is a politically motivated witch hunt. I'm Orthodox, BTW.
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>>135985038
No, it is YOU who belongs in hell because
a) you are a deaf imbecile with wax in your ears
b) you keep thinking your crazy ideas must be the truth
c)you are a catholic and cayholics are HERETICS , all the way from the double procession to the selling of indulgeances for $$$, to the Vatican I council, no longer Christian, to the Vatican II council, the catholics become hippies and marxists like present pope

hello?
>goodbye

besides our priests are cool, yours are pedophile clowns
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>>135985109
i don't need to. you are only baiting yourself. no matter what you say, it's all result of your blasphemy and an attempt to defy god's words. give up and accept that you are only lying to yourself.
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>>135985557
>a) you are a deaf imbecile with wax in your ears
No I'm not, 1st Ad Hominem
>b) you keep thinking your crazy ideas must be the truth
my ideas? do you mean my ARGUMENTS, the arguments I made are right, yes they are true, and you have not counter-argumented them, 2nd Ad Hominem
c)you are a catholic and cayholics are HERETICS , all the way from the double procession to the selling of indulgeances for $$$, to the Vatican I council, no longer Christian, to the Vatican II council, the catholics become hippies and marxists like present pope
I'm not a catholic, I already said that and if I was it has nothing to do with the arguments I made, 3rd Ad Hominem
OKEY uou have run out of Ad Hominem and made no counter-argument, I declare this settled in my favor, thank you
>besides our priests are cool, yours are pedophile clowns
this is subjective, yours are also pedos but I must say some of their clother look cool
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>>135985728
>jihadi flag
>LARPing as christian
at least do it the right way, use the templar flag, other than this I will also say that you surely can do BETTER baits
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>>135985795
nope they are not pedos because they can marry a woman , ha take that

i have more Ad Hominem , it isn't settled , you are a jew and you havn't taken your medications because it's obvious you are also a psychotic nincompoop who invents doctrine at imageboards . And our prists not obly look cool but they kick ass too like no other priest.
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>>135985884
see. you are looking for an excuse rather than having an argument.

you are so lost son.
give up and let him find you.
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>>135951169
Oy vey SHUT IT DOWN you heretic goy.
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>>135951169
jesus-is-savior.com
HAHAHAHAHAAH dude 4chan is full of psychotic retards
i'll stop coming to this shit...until then i laugh at your paranoid retarded brains
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>>135986089
If you think Jesus saving is paranoia then you better return to your mohel who sucks bby dicks for satan
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>>135986066
Gacy was also married, this did not stop him raping those boys and killing them
>also marrying
I'm pretty sure that the ORIGINAL orthodox church did not permit that, show us your flag anon or at least say to which regional orthodox church you belong
>i have more Ad Hominem , it isn't settled , you are a jew and you havn't taken your medications because it's obvious you are also a psychotic nincompoop who invents doctrine at imageboards . And our prists not obly look cool but they kick ass too like no other priest.
it is settled, you made no counter-arguments, don't worry I do not care about the Ad Hominems of an anon in anime board LARPing as orthodox
>>135986085
go on your baits can be better dear
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>>135986457
>go on your baits can be better dear
so can yours. but it's important to learn from our mistakes and always try to become better at it.
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>>135986632
yes for sure we can, at least I hope you had fun
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>>135986457
you are a waste of time , the ORIGINAL ORTHODOX permitted that and still does , the catholic church even permitted priests marrying until 1139AD, go back here >>135975933 to see graph , I win because you're just a time waster.
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>>135986761
it took me a while to figure out that bait in your brain means discussion. so sure. i'm enjoying it, but you should try to be more creative, it's getting stale, like talking to a marxist.
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>>135986849
you do not, the original church was at first the nicene and then the chalcedonian these churches were both catholic (latin rites) and orthodox (greek rites) and I will say that the ORIGINAL orthodox church did forbid marriage just as the catholic one do, as I said you made no other counter-argument to my other claims and neither you do now, I declare both thing settled, now if you excuse me I think I have better thing to do than to waste my time with someone who would not even show his flag or say to which church they belong, so either say an argument that is not and Ad Hominem or GTFO
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>>135986958
no bait in my mind means to try to trigger someone using only inflaming affirmations with no arguments to back them but as I said I hope you have fun and as I said before you can do better with your baits
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>>135987164
did you check graph 1139 ? its like taling to a ababy you gtfo , and dont comeback, enemy of the Church
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>>135951169
>jesus-is-savior.com
GTFO
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The only thing the Catholic church has going for it is that they believe in God. Otherwise, the Vatican (head of the Catholic Church) is in fact Anti-Christ.

They will take over the world by purchasing the world (paying for the world debt) with their gold. As the Jews paper money will become worthless and they'll lose their power to the Vatican with their gold.

Ofcourse the Pope then will be a pope out of the USA. I don't know if it'll be a white, black, asian male, or even a female. Just know it'll be an American Pope.

The other denominations will be forced to bend the knee and will be consumed by the Vatican. Anyone who doesn't agree (whether or not you attend church) will lose all that they own. You won't be able to buy, sell, trade, work, etc. Not until you sign up to their system.

If you sign up with the system you won't make it.

Delay this from happening for as long as is possible. As it isn't a question of if, just a matter of when.
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>>135987646
yeah base all your argument in ONE graphic, that's truly intelligent, I can tell you that calibacy was mandatory, and as I was right about the Ecumeneical Patriarch I am in this too, now I really want to know to which orthodox church you pertain?
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Take the gnos-pill
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>>135981947
>>135981790
Where does GB interpretation stand on the order of event that need to take place before Armageddon?

Specifically what is thought about as to what the mark of the beast about?

Many other denominations believe a satanic man will rise to become One World Leader of a global one world system.

What does GB think will happen, or what is your personal view on these prophecies. How do you think it will go down and in what order?
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>>135987812
suuuure you are right about everything, your doctor said to take your pills and red more books

>>135987870
it's satanic, rejected
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>>135987297
http://biblehub.com/luke/5-8.htm

New International Version
When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus' knees and said, "Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!"

New Living Translation
When Simon Peter realized what had happened, he fell to his knees before Jesus and said, "Oh, Lord, please leave me--I'm too much of a sinner to be around you."

English Standard Version
But when Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus’ knees, saying, “Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord.”

Webster's Bible Translation
When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord.

Weymouth New Testament
When Simon Peter saw this, he fell down at the knees of Jesus, and exclaimed, "Master, leave my boat, for I am a sinful man."
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>>135988428
another ad hominem, I see this is the only thing you have, as I said GTFO you are only wasting our time
>>135988467
I do not know what are you trying neither I care, as I said you can make better baits
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>>135988745
i'm backing up the following
>i think that it's written somewhere, that they even tried to refuse it when the choice of offered, because they knew they were sinners and they couldn't accept it, so they tried to ran.

what else i need to back up, lost son?
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>>135988745
begone thot
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>kys kike.
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>>135987802
It's going to be the offspring of a biracial Flip MtF trans + hideous Caramel Black/White cis cunt who was raised by a single coalburner mom. She will be born in an artificial womb and be a mary sue cunt with a degree in gender studies. She will also be a transgender crippled lesbian in a wheel chair. The literal manifestation of THE AntiChrist. The true epitome of what it means to be a modern American.

Jesus Christ will be a tall, muscular, straight Caucasian Aryan man who does Carpentry for a living. In the final battle between good and evil, Jesus Christ will effortlessly pick up the cripple Antichrist dyke by lifting the wheelchair xe is scooting away with above his chiseled head and hurling the cripple off a cliff. Xer followers will all jump after her off the cliff to rescue her in vain, and will die, thus restoring global peace as the evil of society remove themselves from the gene pool.
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>>135988942
you surely are bored
>>135988970
another ad hominem, I see you truly are butthurt, aren't you?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A1o1Egi20c
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>>135989299
i was blocked in bathroom by a normie to take my morning shower, so i'm still waiting..
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>>135989502
after a few hours i realize now, that waiting on 4ch was a mistake.
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>>135989299
nope add that to your other fantasies , you are an Ad Hominem in yourself
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>>135989502
>>135989545
it was
>>135989590
you don't even make sense now, you should stop drinking
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>>135989873
you're just a stupid shitposter in a holy thread, neck yourself gypsy
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>>135990064
and what are you? you are not even showing you flag and neither did you say to which church you pertain, you are nothing more than a LARPer and I have way to much time to waste with you and so do you with me, but as this goes nowhere I do not see why should I waste more time with you
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I am sorry you people are lost but at least you are openning your eyes to what vatican really is.
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>>135951169
This.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UfQL8xlSZNI
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>>135955259
>catholic mass
>devil spirit present
try orthodox sometime
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>>135990189
you have waste your mind already, any more wasting will just get wasted ,I am a true Orthodox, something you will never be because youn are from spain and it's full of gypsies and communists
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>>135968275
Sorry, what's that signify?
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>>135955259
correction try buddhism
>orthodox same shit satan
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>>135990837
show your flag? or at least stop LARPing as an orthodox, btw your baits have been fun
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literally how did the catholic church become so left wing
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>>135990885
wrong , Orthodoxy anti-jew/anti-satan . Religion of the heavens.

cathols+kikes= fiddlers and dykes

>>135990918
i don't listen to hip-hop
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>>135955439
It's for blackmailing. That's why elite and media are protecting it. They are protecting their own ass and the house of cards by protecting their own blackmailers. It's pretty ingeniuous system. Just do what we say and you get free pass to fuck children.

Cases like Epstein island are CIA honeypots to build that army of puppets. Check the Dyncorp connection.
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>>135956695
this is what i love about this fucking board. if you come what with things that dont fit into the narrative of /pol/ it will be ignored straight away.

ITS A FUCKING SNAKE YOU DUMB FUCKS. EXPLAIN THIS.
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>>135992375
Gay stuff used to work too but today you need pedo stuff. Sacrificing even better, like Heath in UK.
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>>135992613
Vatican used to be relevant but today it's just more like pedo state gotten out of hand. Media and political elite are the most important to control. Also some key positions of society and military too.
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