>world of warcraft virtual gold has more value than a ven

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>>135895467

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>>135895467
Sanders BTFO
Corbyn BTFO

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>>135895467
Big if true

>>135895467
Got into a discussion with a socialist about this.

He kept saying Venezuela was not socialist, despite the means of production being seized by the government.

The conversation was literally the spongebob gif.

>>135898534
He's right. Socialism has never been tried.

>>135895467
>one bitcoin has more value than an American dollar

HAHAHAHAHA

K I don't play WOW so someone give me some perspective on its current economy

How long does it take to get ~8k gold (1 of their dollars?)

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>>135895467
I'M RICH NOW!

>>135898880
False, I can mine 1 coin for less than 1 USD in electricity.

>>135901800
Depending on luck and method? Most people can get that 8k as a lump sum every 12 hours just with the facebook waiting game (send a follower to a mission, 12 hours later he comes back with~2.1k. Do this with 4 at a time). If you actively try you can farm 8.4-20k an hour based on how lucky you get. If you flip items on the auction house or have enough upfront gold to corner a market you can reach gold cap (1.2 million last I checked) in a couple weeks with 1.5 hours of actual playtime a day.

>>135898686
Wrong, socialism is ubiquitous.
COMMUNISM has never been tried, mostly because true communism as leftist idiots see it is impossible

>>135895467
Also:

>Wow Gold is LITERALLY infinitely created and every time a monster spawns it adds inflation
>Still more scarce than bolivar

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>>135895467
>MFW I'm a multi millionaire because of my WoW gold

Where's my Venezuelan bros who grinding WoW to eat? I know there's some well-to-do gamers there.

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Shit, and I have the market on rare pepes cornered.

>>135902703
But it's currently worth $2722.90 if you sell it. Just like how you can make an iphone with just a few $10s of materials. But it's worth more than the material cost.

>>135905092
I'm stealing these say goodbye to your money senpai.

>>135898686
Even if it's never achieved it gets tried all the time and it always fucks up. Stop destroying civilization please. Even if you don't mean to, that's what you're doing.

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>>135895467
I thought rare pepe meme was currency in Venezuela

>>135895467
>~8385g per USD

Wow... I stopped playing in vanilla (because I'm a patrician and not a gen Z spergkid) but that would get you like 100g

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BOXING niggas out
rocking any house
any time any how NIGGA FEEL ME NOW?

>"Heh, socialism is done for sure"
>He says as Canada, China, New Zealand, Belgium, and the Nordic countries thrive

Shills BTFO again

>>135906770
Not real socialism

>>135906872
Are you trying to meme me or are you trying to provide a counter argument? You should probably know that all those countries I listed are more socialist and Venezuela

>>135907059
>>135907059

Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, Danish PM Lars Lokke Rasmussen told students that he had “absolutely no wish to interfere the presidential debate in the US” but nonetheless attempted to set the record straight about his country.

"I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy,” Rasmussen said.

“The Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security for its citizens, but it is also a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish,” he added.

The PM’s comments come after US presidential hopefuls Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton used part of the first Democratic debate to discuss how the United States could emulate Scandinavia.

>>135906770
>american education

>>135895467
Fucking hell. It would be more profitable to do WoW world quests than getting a job in Venezuela.

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>>135907149
Participating in a market economy doesn't mean you're not socialist. You're kind of shooting yourself in the foot with this argument, because this quote also mentions the social welfare policies their citizens benefit from due to socialist policies.

>>135907149
Most Americans have been brainwashed by neo-cons into believing all social programs are commie in nature.

>>135907354
>than getting a job in Venezuela.

If Venezuela was in Africa it would be a RICH, MODERN, INDUSTRIALIZED, WELL EDUCATED state

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>socialism not run by conservative white nationalists

LEL
E
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>>135898534
>The conversation was literally the spongebob gif.

>>135902719
Yeah the inflation is comical. It took me months of prep work to make my first million gold when they released inscription. Filled like 6-7 guild banks with herbs and processed them into glyphs in the first 48 hours of release. Gold capped a couple of toons that way and never bothered with gold again.

>>135907562
Shit you could probably buy large chunks of land in Africa with like 500k gold in WoW.

>>135907551
Orrrrr.. I don't want any of my money going to help people who think opposite of me.

Doesn't matter if it's 0.05%, you get 0%

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>>135895467
Oh! Is communism working again.

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>>135895467
>capitalism doesn't wor-

>>135907409
The parameters of the conversation are now *Limited Govt. vs. Dirigisme*

>Hur this is not socialism they have a market.
>Hur socialists still have a market.

What a bore. The real question is between dirigisme and limited government. Philosophically, what is the real order/mover? Spontaneous market orders, or gubmints?

Now that the semantics bullshit is cleared up, this can proceed. (Capitalism v Socialism has become such a semantics minefield you people never actually touch the issue that is behind it all.)

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>>135898880
Post yfw one bitcoin has more value than an American dollar

>>135907807
Then don't pay taxes and don't use anything that's issued or secured by the government.

>>135907807
>All poor, old and disabled people think the opposite of me
Okay then

>>135904576
Online surveys and captcha solving is where the money is at for many Venezuelans.

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>>135898534
Is this the wrong one?

>inb4 I said GIF

>>135908133
One bitcoin has held a higher value than an american dollar for a very long time. Glad you just discovered it faggot.

>>135908014
>Hur, what a bore
please go grow your neckbeard elsewhere.

Also is there an argument in your post?

>>135908292
Unless you convince a commie of the cultural issues china has as well as the mixed market system them use, theyll point to china as functioning communism until it runs out of steam and they start eating each other to keep a 5% growth rate.

>>135895467
So...time to buy Venezuelan Bolivar to sell in 20 years?

>>135908234
ah no doubt, I know that's big biz in India. I use captcha solving services from time to time for my bots.

>>135908356
You're BTFO because you can only argue with semantics. Now that the verbiage has been isolated you want to act like a chucklehead. Ain't that a bitch?

>>135898880

Bitcoin is a scam.

>>135908688
...Okay? Again care to post an argument discrediting the socialist policies of say, China? They're doing pretty well for themselves under such action.

>>135907712
I dont even bother with it now. The phone app for class halls and 3 characters pays my subscription. Nothing else costs enough to warrant going out of my way to get gold. The money from WQ dailies and lolfr (non-current raids) is more than enough for flasks food and pots for current raids

>>135895467
>world of warcraft virtual gold has more value than a venezuelan bolivar

Well duh. Playing Warcraft is a hell of a lot more fun than living in Venezuela.

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>>135906374
i stopped at Wotlk and 1 daily quest (killing a mob) in icecrown gave you 100g so...

>>135908159
>he thins bureaucrats aren't the main beneficiaries of the welfare state
>he thinks the staties are actually invested in helping the poor
Thanks anon I needed a laugh

>>135898686
It's almost as if the mechanisms, culture, and technology required for proper implementation does not exist.

Better get working on those replicators and transporters. You'll need them if you want that shit to work.

>>135906770
Free market. If there is a free market its not socialism. Without a free market everything goes to shit. There are no european socialist countries. Chins abandoned socialism inofficially which is why its economy is doing fine.

>>135906287
Woah, that's pretty based desu.

>>135909722
Yeah we gotta stop dem cops and teachers from getting healthcare. That's the real problem in this country!

>>135907409
It does mean you are not socialist. Its not about free gibbs but about who owns the “means of production“. Commies argue that all profit is unpaid labor and exploitation. A market economy works against those principles. Socialism will never work and its a danger to any free and prosperous society.

>>135905092
nice justinian pepe

>>135906770
>thrive
>Canda's healthcare is utter shit, people willingly pay out the ASS to go to private clinics because they'll actually get treated, some of the longest wait-times of any first-world country. Also horrendous speech laws and government overreach.
>China is a paper tiger, their housing bubble is so overinflated (thanks to being propped up by the government) that when it pops the entire Chinese economy will crumble with it. Also censorship, freedom, etc.
>Nordic countries
>Sweden already had to declare bankruptcy in the 90s, restructure its debt. Barely staying afloat, without some major shifts their government will not be able to pay their debts again within 20 years. Sweden had an explosion in wealth from 1900-1950s, became socialist, and has been limping on ever since (reduced rate of growth, little innovation compared to pre-1950, etc). Not to mention overreach, overregulation, and speech.
>Denmark's PM recently said (paraphrasing) "We're not socialist, we're a market economy. Socialism doesn't work" Shifting towards market economy after debts became insurmountable, basically smarter Sweden.
>Norway is in the same financial situation as Sweden, only it has massive oil reserves to pay for its programs. Basically the only difference between Venezuela and Norway (aside from the obvious racial differences) is that Norway had large amounts of wealth accumulated before and Venezuela did not. If Norway does not change its system and oil continues to stay cheap, they can expect roughly the same outcome as Venezuela (minus the dictator) in 20-40 years.

But yeah, socialism is great and will totally work this time.

>>135909025
Saved. Thanks

>>135908808
It's still worth 2000 times more than a US dollar. And way more than the Euro, Ahmed.

>>135910126
Wrong. Most euro countries aren't free markets, they're mixed economies. Even US abandoned free markets beginning in the 40s, but really in the 60s/70s. Euro countries are closer to pure socialism, US is closer to free market, but both are right about in the middle. Ironically enough, most of the US's socialism is based upon Prussian socialism, the reforms Bismarck implemented during his tenure as chancellor. Foolish (or clever, depending on your viewpoint) because Bismarck implemented those reforms to secure the vote of his people, same as the democrats. Once you start meddling in the economy and giving people ""free"" shit, there's no going back: only a slow death.

>>135906287
>eating zoo animals
Even I didn't know about this. Whenever I have to visit Caracas I have to walk through the zoo to get to the bus station, I always feel bad for the poor animals but it never crossed my mind that they were being snatched.

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Keep up white bois and maybe you can be a fraction as rich as a kang.

>>135902703
you literally can not

>>135906770
>Canada
>thrive
hang yourself you retarded larping burger

isn't venezuela that country where leftists were meming 10 years ago about that "so great president that lives on a farm and is pretty much your neighbor kinda guy"?

>>135898686

Hi commie.

Kill yourself.

>>135914220
That is Uruguay, Jose Munjica or something.

>>135906287
Eating the zoo animals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aulfGqNa0I

>>135908983
Keked hard.

>>135912595
>Will no one check this man? I'm a nu fag and even I have some respect.
Red Bill me plz do some people really eat poo sauce flavored noodles or is that just a meme? Because why not just eat the noodles I'd ask?

>>135905092

>Publix sub pepe

We're living in a golden age.

>>135911870
Fine I should have said market economy instead of free market. But the principle even under some regulations is the same. Socialism isnt compatible with a market economy. The more they gain power the bigger the state the tighter the regulations and the more of the economy is run directly by the state. But no european country is socialist. Its no model for socialism or prove that it works. I think we are arguing over semantics. You seem to call european countries socialist as a warning. While I think that if it be socialism it would go down the drain much faster, and that calling it that gives foreign socialists the delusion that their shit works.

>>135905092
Let me see some of your rarest ones. I promise I won't steal.