HAPPENING!!! Tillerson threatens to remove Maduro if he doesn't

>>135861532
>vietnam 2: Venezuela edition
Never change, world police.

Venezuela has large oil reserves.

Just posturing.

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>>135861620
>Implying any venezuelans want Maduro in power
Taking out Maduro would be easier than invading Mexico.

>>135861620
Crush commies, save starving masses, get oil.

Seems like it'll work out well for everyone except Maduro.

>>135861532
It's another 'US fucks shit up in an oil-producing country' episode

>>135861699
Yup. They are the largest crude oil exporter in South America.

>>135861887
except itd piss off colombia because they dont want refugees spilling in

Who will be Trump's Pinochet?

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>According to the CIA Factbook, 2009, 96% of the Venezuelan population is Catholic.
Moral and political corruption is the end result of unchecked papal authority.
>inb4 no true scotsman fallacy

>>135861911
Have you been living in a cave you frog? They are already beyond fucked. World of Warcraft currency is worth more than. Venezuela's

>>135861968
communism worked perfectly so long as the price of oil stayed high.

>>135862038
One of the two opposition mentioned in the article, right?
Venuzuelanons? Who do you guys want and who will we try to shove down your throat?

I think we should just start air-dropping AK-74s and cases of 7n6. Venezuelans are hungry AF and not brainwashed Muslims so I think they could actually get it done pretty quicks.

>>135862048
t. southern baptist cuck
Make sure you donate the tip of your dick to Israel after you visit the creation museum

>>135861532
Fuck Tillerson.

Let Venezuela fix their own shit (or die as an example of what socialism wrought). We have nothing, absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose by entering that hornet's nest. If we intervene we'll end up owning the result from now to forever.

>>135861968
make that the world

>>135862023
>except itd piss off colombia
And? what the fuck are they gunna do about it?

Oh look, its another "amerifats start a bloodshed in a country for jew oil companies" episode.
Remember tillerson was ceo of exonmobil

>>135861909
The quality of Venezuela's oil is shit. Furthermore, wars for oil don't alter how much oil gets sold only which family gets to sell it. In other words, fuck off kike!

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>Venezuela fucks itself by voting in an actual commie
>everyone fighting and starving and dying
>US decides to step in
>FUCKING US RUINING OUR COUNTRY FUCK CAPITALISM

>>135861532

Old dog, old tricks. Who wants to bet that Exxon gets first dibs on oil reserves after we get stuck into some bullshit war to "help the people."

why we need so much oil anyway is it used to cook the burgers or something

>>135862713

Lubrication to fuck the american people.

>>135861699
>venesuela has oil
Sounds like they need some freedom

>>135863009
I'm pretty convinced any wars we get into under Trump that aren't NK related will be for some underlying reason like oil.

>Venezuela has larger oil reserves
>Country poor as shit

>Largest oil reserves in S America
>Going bankrupt
YOU HAD ONE JOB VALENZUELA
GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER JON JONES

>>135861887
>1845 warfare is the sames as 2017 warfare
>Burger strategist
Just remember your shit troops got btfo by sandniggers in the last decade and half decade.

>>135862023
You say that like we give a fuck.

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>>135861532
Time to freedomize some darkies!

>>135861532
The fuck? Are there still people on here that don't know or realize Venezuela is a CIA covert black ops mission?

>>135861532
Didn't maduro leave the petro-dollar and move into hard exchange or another currency or something? Fuck that dude

>>135869265
Not everyone is an Infowars shill anon.

>>135869473
It's called history, faggot. It's literally Bay of Pigs 2: Venezualen boogaloo up in this piece.

>>135869772
> Mah lizzard joos are taking over the (((nwo))) to bring cultural Marxism to the far side of the moon, but I am safe in my UltraMaleVitality bunker with my Comfy Sarah Palin waifu pillow.

>>135864326
They killed the private sector and made oil the only export.

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>>135869473
>>135870689

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor#U.S._involvement
There's plenty of legitimately recognized history of CIA-backed fuckery all over South America. Please educate yourself instead of spewing disinformation.

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>>135870868
Do you want us to bring freedom with tomahawk missiles to your country?

>>135861909
>Crush commies, save starving masses, get oil.
>Seems like it'll work out well for everyone except Maduro.

Yes,, this is bound to go well. Overthrowing governments is always a good idea.

>>135871034
Operation Condor was cancelled in 2002 anon. You are a faggot BTFO!

>>135862048
Papal authority hasn't meant shit since John Paul II.
Does Poland listen to this new pope about taking in sandnigger? NOPE
And Poland made Mary and Jesus to their official Queen and King.

Russia and China should get in there first and prop up the government.

Fuck the US causing carnage everywhere.

>>135862092
they dont have the internet, they ate it

>>135861968
>>135861699
Shit tier oil though. THe vast majority of their reserves is the heaviest bitumen you can imagine, and their light crude reserves are running out. This heavy shit only really works at 70+ dollar crude prices, and we're at 50 now. Unless global production declines significantly, Venezuelan heavy crude is basically worthless.

>>135871082
I don't think it will happen but you can come anytime. Our oil is useless if the drilling equipment deteriorates and our debt increases. The government seizing the means of production is the biggest meme Marxism came up with.

>>135871558
The Russians and Chinese haven't been in that game for very long while anon....

>>135861911
At this point Iraq is doing better than Venezuela

>>135871603
Venezuelan oil production has declined since 2013, do you think that Venezuelan oil production will fall off a cliff in the coming two years?
Do you know anything about the drug industry or anyone involved in the drug trade?

>>135861532
What happened to Trumpfags being against Globalism? This is textbook globalism right here

>>135871315

Actually it was cancelled in 1989 and wasn't declassified for another 10 years. We'll never get to know what they're currently doing, but it's not hard to guess based on their track record.

>>135871034
To be fair, the Soviets did exactly the same in Latin America and around the globe. The Chinese tried to do the same but they lacked resources and funding.

Good book about this: https://www.amazon.com/World-Was-Going-Our-Way/dp/0465003133

It is unfortunate that the uneducated public eats up the CIA propaganda about We wuz good boys dindu nuffin in Latin America, and the interested public usually eat up the Chomsky tales of woe about how the ebil CIA waz overthrowin da govt n sheet, while not reading about the Chinese and Soviet interventions around the world

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>>135871956
>do you think that Venezuelan oil production will fall off a cliff in the coming two years?
They will never stop because it's their only legal source of money, but if things keep going like this production will drop so much they could end at a point where keeping the operation running could cost more than the returns.

>Do you know anything about the drug industry or anyone involved in the drug trade?
The entire country knows that vice president Tarek William Saab, Diosdado Cabello and the high ranking military officials are all deep in drug trafficking. You can ask any Venezuelan about this and they'll tell you without hesitation or doubt.

Pic related is a gas truck owned by the oil company PDVSA, it was transporting 780kg of cocaine, they found out about it because the driver crashed into a house. http://www.el-nacional.com/noticias/sucesos/incautaron-mas-780-kilos-cocaina-una-gandola-pdvsa_188321

The reason these guys are so desperate to stay in power is because they know that they will go to jail if Maduro falls.

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>>135861532
I'm guessing we're gunna take the oil this time.

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maduro forgot whos hemisphere this is.

>>135861911
US intervention is generally shit, but i don't see how this will make Venezuela worse for the average Venezuelan. Their are already down to eating rats, how worse can it be?

>>135870689
>Sarah Palin waifu pillow

Do want

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>>135861532
all according to plan

>>135872556
Thanks for the info.

>The entire country knows that vice president Tarek William Saab, Diosdado Cabello and the high ranking military officials are all deep in drug trafficking

Are there signs that the lower ranking military officers and the conscripts are losing faith in the government and are considering joining the opposition?
Is it easy to smuggle supplies and weapons into Venezuela from Brazil and Colombia, or by ship from the Caribbean islands?

Please nuke Venezuela with no survivors so the fucking niggers stop once and for all coming to this shithole.

>>135861532
I dont know who to believe for this whole venezuala thing. other than the occasional anons who post in here, but they could just be proxies

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>>135873068
>have to eat rats AND worry about getting bombed by Jonny dronestrike
>only speak Spanish but suddenly a bunch of English speaking troopers come into your country and begin pushing everyone around and corraling people into camps
>Jonny dronestrike bombs the shit out of your cities and infrastructure and nobody will ever be able to foot the bill to fix it all when Jonny dronestrike goes back to Oklahoma, so now you're eating rats in the ruins of a city instead of an actual city
>wartime ostensibly gives care Blanche for crime and drugs so when Jonny dronestrike leaves the crime will probably be even worse, which is hard to beat since criminals in venezuela literally butcher people and sell their body parts in hospitals
>when Jonny dronestrike goes home there's no guarantee whoever the (((USA))) leaves as a puppet dictator won't be a shill that forces the shekel jew on venezuela
>except there might not be an incentive for Jonny dronestrike to go home at all if he can just bomb people on the weekends while keeping control of oil reserves

>>135873355
The grip on the lower ranks is pretty tight, they would need to be sure that they'd be able to pull it off to risk their lives like that.

>smuggling
I really don't know anything about the frontiers since I live in the interior, I'm sure some other Venezuelanon can answer that.

>>135873572
Ask away if you want, I'm neutral when it comes to political parties and just want to live in a democratic country with a developing economy and good quality of life.

Why though? The situation in North Korea is more important, no one even gives a shit about Venezuela.

>>135873068
>US intervention is generally shit, but i don't see how this will make Venezuela worse for the average Venezuelan. Their are already down to eating rats, how worse can it be?

Much worse. the current situation is being caused by wealthy/middle class citizens who want to overthrow the government and loot the country again

>>135861532

free that oil!

I mean, the people!

>>135873968
Norks have nukes so we can't do anything
Venezuela can't fight back and it lets Drumpf swing his dicklet around to look tough

>>135871594
As freedom is about to be implemented, I can only assume that the high bitumen oil is still profitable.

>>135873968
Tillerson discussed the three hotspots Venezuela, Syria and NK in his speech yesterday.

>no one even gives a shit about Venezuela.
This is just silly. Venezuela is the largest country that is still holding out to the US, and if the Maduro regime gets replaced by a US friendly regime, it will be a major blow to Russian and Chinese interests.

>>135874380
>Norks have nukes so we can't do anything
>Venezuela can't fight back and it lets Drumpf swing his dicklet around to look tough

China needs to man up and stop America doing this shit

Every few years another bogus revolution that fucks everything up

>>135874133
t. Corbinista retard

>>135874540
>t. Corbinista retard

Bite me, faggot

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>>135861911
This series peaked at episode four thousand.

>be genius

>nationalize oil

>>135871594
That's right and was the main reason for venezuelas current situation - their whole economy was based on oil.
It is not even worth sending the freedom squad desu

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More oil wars!

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>>135861532

>>135861620

1: the only people on Maduro's side are the hardcore socialists(because he is arming and bribing them) which are very much a small minority.


The bulk of the Venezuelan populace would be on the US's side, and we have technology now that makes guerilla warfare FAR easier(such as drones)
Maduro would be dead or in chains inside a few months, at best. he doesn't have the support network to wage a full on Vietnam or Iraq type conflict

Make the CIA great again!

>>135874656
>>be genius
>>nationalize oil

Like Norway and Saudi Arabia?

>>135875793
>1: the only people on Maduro's side are the hardcore socialists(because he is arming and bribing them) which are very much a small minority.
>The bulk of the Venezuelan populace would be on the US's side, and we have technology now that makes guerilla warfare FAR easier(such as drones)
>Maduro would be dead or in chains inside a few months, at best. he doesn't have the support network to wage a full on Vietnam or Iraq type conflict

False, the majority is on the government's side.

Your media lies to you as usual.

>>135875266
how does a war with venezuela go in your mind

>>135876076
>how does a war with venezuela go in your mind

|A bloody proxy war with the US backing 'rebels'. Usual deal.

>>135876163

Viva Venezuela!

>>135871417
The pope has to. He's the Pope. Poland doesn't have to let Muslims into their country when they've been fighting the Muslim Hordes for hundreds of years. It's called taking a stance and going to war for it, Sweden. Something your people know nothing about.

>>135873068
Who gives a shit about the average Venezuelan? This is supposed to be about America First.

I would rather deploy to Venezuela than Iraq or Afghanistan. I'll draw up some decent invasion/occupation plans. Let's get this memed

>>135876055

Nice try, cuck, but we don't need the media when we can just talk to actual Venezuelans directly.


Venezuela has access to the internet, you know. along with twitter and everything else that lets them directly tell us how much they hate that commie fuckwad.

>>135876055
You're full of shit.

>>135863356
Nigger, all wars are for "underlying reasons".

>>135875793
why would you want to invade Venezuela anyway?

>>135877191
One less ally for Russia and China probably.

>>135876747
>Nice try, cuck, but we don't need the media when we can just talk to actual Venezuelans directly.
>Venezuela has access to the internet, you know. along with twitter and everything else that lets them directly tell us how much they hate that commie fuckwad.

Access to the internet means on the whole youre speaking to the wealthier minority who are rioting.

>>135861532
Can we just stop fucking with South America or the rest of the world for once

>>135877481
>most of the country is eating shit
>government has total control over the media
>the only ones who can voice their opinion are people on the internet
No shit.

>>135877481


Yes, because obviously it's the wealthy people who want to take to the streets and get shot trying to protest.


This isn't like america were "protesters" are soft ass spoiled brats making a scene because they know the cops won't do anything. There have already been nearing 200 fatalities from the "riots" when state security started opening fire

>>135877718

How much of your diet are mangos these days?

>>135877870
Mango season ended a while ago. Now sardines are the go to food.

>>135877485
Shut up and enjoy your Pax Americana.

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>>135861532
Fuck America desu

>>135861699
Well if they're just going to waste it.

>>135861620
More like Iraq III. The Pentagon wants their oil.

>>135868190
Yea, thats why America sucks and the Middle East is a great place to live.

>>135878615
You dirty croats ought to a bit more fucking polite after all we've done for you.
Wouldn't take much to send those bombers after you this time.

>>135861532
Nobody is gonna intervene in Venezuela, and now that the oposition has been pretty much dismantled even less

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>>135861887

>>135861699
hhehehehehe

>>135868190
Sand niggers are all armed, only our narco niggers have guns. Regular Mexicans would rather sell stuff to US soldiers than kill them desu.

>>135880243
That's was when the economy was just about to go to hell and Maduro was riding on Chavez' death to get support from the people. His popularity is so fucking low right now that he lost the senate to an opposition majority and made the electoral power sit on the regional elections that were due to December 2016 so his party doesn't lose the majority in governors and mayors.

There were also traces of fraud in those results you posted but the opposition is so fucking shit they didn't fight for those votes. Last Sunday Maduro pulled 6 million votes out of his ass to make it look like everyone wanted his new assembly. Everyone across the country knows their polling centers were empty as fuck and knows it's just a fraud.

>>135861909
>>135861909
>>135861909
>Crush commies, save starving masses, get oil.

Those terms are acceptable.

>>135861911
Damn and I was enjoying the "communism destroys another nation" marathon.

>>135880952
>when the economy was just about to go to hell
This is what happens when you have an economy based on selling oil and the price of oil collapses

Chavez and then Maduro bought the support of the rural poor with gibs. Venezuela's not-poors were much like the not-poor in the rest of S.America, wannabe euro aristocrats economically shitting on the indios. Big surprise that communism would prosper in a country with huge mass agrarian disposessed. Maduro has 400,000+ state-armed farmers who never had shit before the Bolivarian Revolution. There might be rioting in the streets but a coup isn't going anywhere with the countryside firmly in hand.

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>>135861620
>ywn throw maduro out of a Huey
>it ain't me starts playing

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>>135881652
Also having a lot of babies is not helping

To be honest this is slightly disheartening. Its sounds noble and all but then you realize Syria, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea are the last non-NWO countries in the world. Not saying Venezuela hasn't become corrupt and all this does kind of stink.

>>135880952
Which bears the question, if the majority of venezuelans suspected he cheated in the 2013 elections, if they knew he was illegaly delaying the 2016 governors and whatever elections because he knew he would lose, if they knew he will make the whole constituent fraud to establish a cuban-like regime, if they know he's currently purging all his oponents to weaken the oposition... why haven't you started the fucking civil war yet what the fuck are you waiting for?

>Current national debt
>We can afford another war

Pick 1

>>135881789
Doesn't Venezuela have a Rothchilds central bank?

>>135868190
>your shit troops got btfo by sandniggers in the last decade and half decade.

is that what you really believe?

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>>135881817
They banned private gun ownership some time ago and rounded up and destroyed many weapons.

>>135881898
Ah seems you are right. They have a central bank through the IMF. This may have happened under maduro though not sure. I thought I recalled Chavez doing away with that at one point.

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>>135881983
cracks me up that countries will gladly willingly disarm themselves

just fuck my shit up senpai

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Brazillian here.
Please, for the love of god, remove fucking maduro!
Our streets are flooded with venezuelan beggars, prostitutes and thiefs.
And we can't even take care of our own people!!

>>135881652
>>135881717
I touched on that earlier. This was all done by Chavez killing the private sector and making oil our only export, if he hadn't died he'd be taking the credit for all this but Maduro has to be the lucky guy to take the fall and Chavez stays a saint that can be used to win votes.

>>135881817
Only the government has guns and there hasn't been any sign of revolt in the military aside from the cop Oscar Perez, who vanished as soon as he appeared because the opposition leaders are incompetent and didn't use his apparition properly during the protests. He was backing them and they let him down is what I think.

>opposition leaders call for a massive protest
>Oscar resurfaces and says he'll be there helping the people during the protest
>opposition leaders calls off the protest the next day
>Oscar Perez never shows up again

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>>135881817
If Maduro cheated in 2013 presidential elections, why he has not cheated in 2015 parliamentary elections?
If the electoral system works, it would make sense to wait for the next presidential elections instead of starting a civil war.

a war with venezuela would last like ten minutes. a bunch of hungry, government dependent hispanics? thats nothing like vietnam where it was a bunch of self sufficient autists in a jungle

>>135882563
Plus the gooks were being supplied by China and USSR. No one will be helping Venezualas gov.

>>135862356
>he thinks the cartels aren't one of the swinging dicks in international dealings.

We may be their main customer, but they are ruthless and know how to strike fear into entire populations. You think ISIS is bad? Cartels are much worse, and they've been doing this shit for much much longer than a bunch of inbred goat fuckers. Granted, both are funded by the CIA as well, but at this point it seems like nearly all enemies of the US are just firing targets set up to topple governments. Bill Hicks put it best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyG2c-Wddzo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D8LXWDWo6I

http://www.correiodoestado.com.br/brasilmundo/prostituicao-de-venezuelanas-avanca-com-imigracao-em-massa-no-norte/302985/(Http://www.correiodoestado.com.br/brasilmundo/prostituicao-de-venezuelanas-avanca-com-imigracao-em-massa-no-norte/302985/)

>>135882725
I feel bad for you guys having to take in the shit tier Venezuelans.

>>135882725
Maduro has to be put to death.
we already have enough socialist misery and we can't even help ourselves!

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>>135861532
Sounds like somebody needs some freedom.

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>>135882828
The real shit tier ones are the socialist judas supporting maduro.

>>135882675
eh better version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IZfpGG2cBE

>>135882725
>Mass vennezuelan immigration on northern shitzil
Aren't the northermost parts of your shithole like nothing but jungle and small indian villages? Where exactly are they migrating to?

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>>135861620
Nah, it would be Operation Just Cause again, military could use another spring break.

>>135861532
>see what was happening after USA presidential elections and inauguration
>same thing happening in another country
>somehow first is democracy and second isn't
>USA literally meddling in another country politic
>bot god forbid if anyone do the same with USA
>list goes on and on
Fucking hypocrites.

>>135882987
Contrary to the myth, there are large cities throughout Brazil. Some are good, some are bad.

>>135861532
Has anyone seen assange since October last year?

>>135870868
the oil shit is state controlled here, it's always been. So that's not an excuse

>>135882987
That's why this is actually a blessing in disguise when you think about it, there's nobody living there so it's far too easy for the burgers to just go there and poach plant resources. If people coming from a mid/upper-tier HDI country such as Venezuela, even poor people, come in and assimilate there with no problems the resources are slightly safer and our population gets that one boost that could keep it at replacement levels.

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>>135861620
Daily reminder libertarians are peacenik hippy pussies

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>>135882378
I think that Carlos is also responsible for this situation
>Towards the end of his first term in office, Pérez's reputation was tarnished by accusations of excessive, and disorderly, government spending. His administration was often referred to as Saudi Venezuela for its grandiose and extravagant ambitions. In addition, there were allegations of corruption and trafficking of influence, often involving members of Pérez's intimate circle, such as his mistress Cecilia Matos, or financiers and businessmen who donated to his election campaign, known as the "Twelve Apostles". A well-publicized rift with his former mentor Betancourt and disgruntled members of AD all pointed to the fading of Perez's political standing. By the 1978 elections, there was a sense among many citizens that the influx of petrodollars after 1973 had not been properly managed. The country was importing 80% of all foodstuffs consumed. Agricultural production was stagnant. The national debt had skyrocketed. And whilst per capita income had increased and prosperity was evident in Caracas and other major cities, the country was also more expensive and a significant minority of Venezuelans were still mired in poverty. This malaise led to the defeat of AD at the polls by the opposition Social Christian Party. The newly elected president, Luis Herrera Campíns, famously stated in his inaugural speech that he was "inheriting a mortgaged country."

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>>135883022
Yeah, I thought the sanctions was fucking stupid to.
>our relations are now at an all time low
>because you fucking made it that way!

>>135883022
Fuck off Ivan hope that shit bit of Crimea was worth being an international pariah.

>>135883234
Nope, NAP is absolute. Violate the NAP, get nuked.

>>135861699
>>135871594


Well you could make the venezuelan crude oil competitive. By enslaving the venezuelan people. And let them work for free on the oil platforms and refineries. This would probably bring the price under 50 Dollar a Barrel.

There is always a solution to any problem. Also enslave them right in their home country. The trick is to not let them enter your soil in any case.

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Most fucking venezuelans are a coward spineless people.
They should rise and behead and impale maduro.
Bastards putting up with this socialist misery.

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>>135861532
wtf I love interventionism now!

>>135883665
In the grand scheme of things it's better to be accused of letting people die than being accused of greedy warmongering

>>135883117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf5Z1v3aQXQ

>>135882936
Spot on. I'm pretty sure many of the prostitutes and other scummy people that moved over there were people who supported the regime once, lived in the border and decided it would be easier to live over there.

>>135883209
We have nothing else aside from oil and we import pretty much everything we consume. Chavez nationalized PDVSA and started hiring unqualified people like crazy. What could be done with around 4.000 employees was now being done by 100.000. Over the years the quality of the work force deteriorated so much that they couldn't take proper care of facilities and equipment, now production keeps dropping. My mother has been working there since before Chavez was elected and she once had a security guard of the building appointed as her boss by a director for who knows what reason.

>>135883331
Can't disagree.

>>135878756
Oil yes, but it is also about propping up the petro-dollar system (global oil sold for US dollars). Maybe the new Venezuelan state wants to sell its oil for something other than the dollar, like Iraq and Libya wanted to do.

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>>135881676
>it ain't me starts playing

The name of the song is "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival.

>>135861532
Looks like T-Rex Tillerson is hungry for some fossil fuels.

>another episode of /pol/ blames the CIA instead of late stage socialism
bunch of lefty retards ITT

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>>135884951
I don't know what socialist retards are doing here. These people should be banned.

Honestly, I'm fine with this.
Venezuela could become South America's Syria and/or become the South American North Korea by developing nukes 10-20 years in the future.

I wouldn't give a shit about a dictator taking power if he wasn't a stalinist anti-USA shitbird on our doorstep.

>>135874133

fuck off corbin

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Great, more fucking veneshits diarrhea flowing here. You retarded uneductaed mediocre fucks go to Bolivia.

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>>135861699
We must free these people

>>135883835
Question: why does socialism have such strong roots in rural areas of South American countries? This is almost the exact opposite of Russia in the 1910s and of course Europe and America.

>>135861887

>Mexican army spends entire war moving bath and forth between two points

>>135886033

That's recent and only in some areas.In Brazil, for example, they trap the northern rural population, who live in really harsh semi-arid climates that would depend in really advanced technology to be prosperous into a welfare trap, like the black population in the USA.

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>>135861620
>Hello?
> Is it regime change your looking for?

>>135861887
Lets also remember that the Mexicans had been at war against all the European powers for the last 40 years and were at breaking point.

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>>135885460
glorious meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcf9CLMQuRQ

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whenever the US government mentions humanitarian (thing) you can know for certain the kikery is afoot

>>135887222
checked

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>hiring an oil guy for secretary of state
gee nobody could have seen this coming at all

regret voting for trump yet you dumb kikes?

>>135887222
Digits confirm

>>135887572
>canadian education
Shits been going down in Venezuela for near 2 decades. Pretty dumb to blame it on Trump.

>>135861532

Anon5 called it!!!

Holy shit he was right again. No wonder why the shills hate him.

>>135882649

Cuba supports Venezuela and that would be an excellent reason to liberate that shithole too.

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>>135878615

America's coup started our Military Dictatorship which is known as the Golden Year and the Miraculous Economy Growth.

Also, most of our main infrastructure came from that era.

Thank you, America!

I think the same thing happened to Chile.

Everyone else got fucked though.

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>>135862171
>Let Venezuela fix their own shit (or die as an example of what socialism wrought). We have nothing, absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose by entering that hornet's nest. If we intervene we'll end up owning the result from now to forever.
I was looking forward to seeing it turn into a dystopian wasteland. Guess I got to keep watching Michigan.

>>135862171
I hate US intervention, and I don't like that we did it to Chavez

That being said, I wouldn't really be sad if we did it against Maduro right now as long as it was CIA and swift. I do think it'd be better to fix Mexico first though to stop their flow into here but of course thats not in the interest of the money so not gonna happen

good, fuck communists and all of their enablers

>>135868190
fite us irl

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>>135886033
Actually, in Brazil, socialism is strong where people are uneducated and depend on government handouts. Not only in rural areas.
Fortunately, now most people can see that the leftists have destroyed our economy and hate them for that.

>>135862048
Fuck off varg

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>>135861532
Looks like my decision to invest in military arms production is going to pay off handsomely.
So how do we make money off the regime change in Venezuela /pol/?

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>>135875793
Yes goy! You'll be received as liberators! Operation Venezuelan Freedom!
Good goy! You'll be home by hannu... I mean Christmas!

>>135883022
>Fucking hypocrites.
Thank you for your service hackerman.
Only media hates you and even they don't believe you did it.
>>135883971
>What could be done with around 4.000 employees was now being done by 100.000. Over the years the quality of the work force deteriorated so much that they couldn't take proper care of facilities and equipment, now production keeps dropping.
That sounds like socialism alright.
If Americans brought you guys food and fresh water would your countrymen welcome them or try to kill them and blame them for everything?

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>>135888239
don't forget how America ruined us way before that though

America ended the last chance Brazil had at restoring the empire

>>135877485
Nope. Commies are born there.

>>135893096
You're savages, you need to be kept on short chain

>>135861532
Do it, feed me happenings

>>135883209
It's been privatized, you dummy, govt just owns a large share and taxes the hell out of the rest. We also don't seize foreign companies' assetd multiple times in succession, scaring them away forever

>>135893741
yeah sure buddy, that's why the (inferior) US fleet swooped down to make sure Brazil kept the backward """democratic""" regime that overthrew the highly liberal and advanced empire.

Then you called us lazy spics in the 40s, after the moral destruction was complete

>>135883022
>>same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>135893096
>brazilian """"""""""""""""empire""""""""""""""""
>literally brazil today+uruguay

>>135894209
>"big landmasses the size of several countries shouldn't be called an empire"
>russian """"""""""""""""empire""""""""""""""""
>kicked your ass

>>135891371
would your countrymen welcome them or try to kill them and blame them for everything?
It's complicated. On one side you have the people who know about the world outside the borders and understands everything and on the other you have the humblest part of the population that has been fed the idea that you guys are Satan for almost 20 years.

You're pretty much the boogeyman Maduro uses when he needs to blame anyone about his incompetence and the ignorant people who only have access to local information believe it.

>>135894979
America is Satan desu, communists just like to exaggerate like always. Still a valid boogeyman though

>>135894979
Would you support an intervention as long as the US doesn't fuck over Venezuela with a puppet or judt generallt fucks things up too much? I might be begging the question here

>>135896117
Just generally*

>>135896117
I just want a good economy and to be able to leave my house without fearing I'll be robbed or worse. I stopped using my car and going outside because just leaving it alone for 10 minutes anywhere is stressing as fuck.

I'm sure that as long as people are able to get back the quality of life they had a few years ago they'd be fine with anything as long as you don't show yourselves as the boogeyman the people think you are.

>>135873424
>Not wanting venezuelan qts in your shithole

Literally why

>>135876055
13.400.000 Bolivares (like a dolar) you're either a communist spanish or some argentinian retard.

>>135896638
>as long as you don't show yourselves as the boogeyman the people think you are.
The jews who run the show here usually fuck it up for us. So if we intervened they'd probably be trying to install a bunch of puppets to govern you.
Capitalism might actually improve your quality of life but unless you guys manage your natural resources wisely I don't think you can afford a big social safety net for your poor. Am I wrong?

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OPEC BTFO.

OPEC losers think this will make prices go up (it won't). The Texans etc will just produce more.

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>>135861532
Back to the jungles we go!
I was getting tired of the tan paint anyways.

>>135899067
>I don't think you can afford a big social safety net for your poor. Am I wrong?
Our poor are poor because they aren't properly educated, spend all the money they get on booze and usually don't want to work. I'm all for helping everyone have equal opportunities for growth and elevating the awareness and knowledge of the population but I firmly believe people have to do their part, too.

There are plenty of people here ready to turn Venezuela around but once the gibs stop or become smaller the people who don't want to work will start complaining.I know there are poor people with the means to grow economically so I don't want to generalize on that matter, I'm talking about the lazy fucks.

>>135899138
I wonder if this is why trump did that massive arms deal with Saudi. They hav the money now, but won't in 5 to 10 years.

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>>135900267
Idk but shale in the USA is supposed to increase by like 6 gorillion barrels a week next year. What are intended to be "caps" by OPEC are basically them throwing away their control of the market bit by bit.

>>135876551
This. Can we take the oil?

>>135901021
I sure hope so, but even if we can't, we can take their customers.