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John Oliver exposes the fuck out of Alex Jones, proves he's

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WyGq6cjcc3Q
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>>135853663
>linking LastWeekTonight
Change domain to hooktube so they don't get views

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=WyGq6cjcc3Q
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>>135853663
>>135853689
He's not a fraud, he's a disinfo agent. Oliver is a complete idiot. Alex Jones serves his narrative.
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>>135853663
stopped watching once john "current year" oliver tried to say that fluoride in tap water wasn't a real thing
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>>135853895
It's not harmful
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Fuck off, shill.
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>>135854141
>Conclusions: The results support the possibility of an adverse effect of high fluoride exposure on children’s neurodevelopment.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=10.1289/ehp.1104912
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>>135854141
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>>135854245
>high fluoride exposure on children’s neurodevelopment.
No good science has proven the levels found in drinking water are harmful
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>>135854245
>One meta-data study with inconclusive results proves that I'm right

I hate the scientifically illiterate.
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>>135854340
That's not what the study I just linked says
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>>135853663
Most of /pol/ seems to know Alex Jones is a joke.
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>>135854397
nice straw man. I never made an assertion.
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>>135854397

Good luck getting a grant to do a double blind.
You know (((who))) hands out grants right.
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>>135853663
Wow, Oliver sure showed AJ by buying all that home-run product available at 30% off at Infowarslife.com.
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How can you expose the inventor of Super Male Vitality as a fraud? You literally can't.
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>>135853663
This shit just drives more traffic to Infowars
Also that faggot purchased hundreds of dollars worth of product so I'm not sure what his plan was
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>>135854245
>Difference of literally 1/2 an IQ point
Lmao
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>>135853663
bill cooper was saying that 20 years ago it is common knowledge you kids don't know shit .
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>>135854523
>Results: The standardized weighted mean difference in IQ score between exposed and reference populations was –0.45 (95% confidence interval: –0.56, –0.35) using a random-effects model. Thus, children in high-fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ scores than those who lived in low-fluoride areas.
> significantly lower IQ score
The shills sure are out in force tonight
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>>135854445
>I never made an assertion.

Replying to the message "It's not harmful" while quoting the part in the study says that it's possibly harmful is an implied assertion.

Either way, my point stands; a single meta-data study with inconclusive results does not mean fluoride in water is harmful.
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>>135853663
JOHN OLIVER = ALPHA KEK

FUCK YOUR SLIDE THREAD

SAGE
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>>135854656
>I'm an illiterate moron and words mean whatever I want them to mean
Wow you are a true intellectual.

>a single meta-data study with inconclusive results does not mean fluoride in water is harmful.
It certainly indicates cause for concern and further research rather than dismissing it and pretending that everything is fine
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>>135854523
Why lie about something so easy to fact check?

>The average loss in IQ was reported as a standardized weighted mean difference of 0.45, which would be approximately equivalent to seven IQ points for commonly used IQ scores with a standard deviation of 15.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/
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>>135854647
significant just means they can measure the difference, it doesn't mean it turns people into complete retards
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>>135854775
Looking through your posts in this thread and how you keep quote-mining the study, you obviously think fluoride is harmful. So I don't understand why you're getting buttmad and calling it a strawman.

>It certainly indicates cause for concern and further research rather than dismissing it and pretending that everything is fine

Not really. You don't have any idea of how research papers or results work. You can meta-data pretty much any result you want, as long as you pick the right studies you're getting meta-data from. And scientific consensus is not based on a single meta study. Fluoride consumption science is decades, if not centuries old, and one meta study with inconclusive results is not cause for concern.
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>>135853663
John Oliver is the fraud
I believe everything Alex jones has to say.
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>>135854927
>Average loss of 7 points
>With a standard deviation of 15

Congrats it's absolutely nothing
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>>135853663
>he actually bothers to talk about jones

Wow. Now that is funny.
How much of a joke his show is that is.
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>>135853663
Alex jones literally dumps cheap russian propaganda on his naive conservative audience every day. He is surely paid by the Kremlin
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>>135854340
The fluoride is industrial waste.

That is my biggest concern, that industries cover this up to get rid of their waste.
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>>135855107
I'm really starting to believe you're a paid shill. This is the biggest load of mental gymnastic bullshit I've read on this board all day.

>>135855194
So reducing your IQ from 100 to 93 is absolutely nothing? Definitely a shill. No one is legit this stupid.
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>>135853663
Just the fact that this necrotic toothed retard has to try to defame Alex Jones means Jones must be telling the truth.
When your getting flak, you're likely right over the target.
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>>135855393
The SD is the problem.
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>>135855501
Every professional IQ test has an SD of either 15 or 16.
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>>135853663
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>>135855393
>So reducing your IQ from 100 to 93 is absolutely nothing? Definitely a shill. No one is legit this stupid.

You do not understand what standard deviation is, and I'm certain that you have no experience taking anything beyond high school statistics classes.

>Mental gymnastics
>Doesn't understand how statistics work, so calls anyone who disagrees with him a paid shill

I don't know about fluoride, but I think something must be wrong with the water you're drinking.
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reminder John Oliver learns about all the things he talks about 5 minutes before he says them as he is instructed by his writers
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>>135853663

All he proved is that he subsidizes his show with holistic medical supplies and nutritional supplements.

Oliver didn't even go over his personal financials.

He has 3 nice watches that could be fake or real Rolexes.

Is he driving a top of the line Mercedes? Does he have a yacht? Does he have a mansion in Malibu where he hangs out with the Hollywood celebs he disses?
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>>135855618
>You do not understand what standard deviation is
This is projection at its finest. ALL IQ tests have an SD of 15-16. Every single one. You clearly have a double digit IQ.
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he is tyt level retardation. the more incredulous you make out you are the more brainraped your audience is to accept your position
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>>135853663
As if it wasnt obvious before. Hes just a fun meme. No one actually takes him seriously. Only a fucken idiot would need John Oliver to tell them this. Just watch his show. All he does is shill his products
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>>135854340
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/

It's proven to cause IQ reduction over time.
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>>135853689
Wait... You're not a bot?
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>>135853663
The uploader has made this video not available in your country.
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>>135855719
That's the fucking point. I'm going to type this out as clearly for you as possible.

IQ tests have a standard deviation of 15.

The average loss in IQ was approximately 7 IQ points.

Because that number is within the standard deviation, you cannot correlate fluoride with the drop in scores. The scores will naturally deviate within 15 points.

If you were to do the test again, because there is a standard deviation of 15, you could end up with a +15 IQ gain, or a -15 IQ loss.

If the IQ loss were outside the standard deviation, it would be significant.
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>>135853663

back when Jones was mainly focused on making documentaries and spending a large amount of his time doing actual research, he was pretty good. His documentaries are still really good, well sourced, slightly hyperbolic in some areas,

now he's a water filter salesman, that spends all day on the radio trying to expand while spiraling further into, what appears to me as, mental illness.
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>>135855941
That would be against the rules
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>>135856135
>Because that number is within the standard deviation, you cannot correlate fluoride with the drop in scores. The scores will naturally deviate within 15 points.
This is not how statistics work you goddamn idiot. Go take a high school statistics class for the love of God.
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>>135856059
hooktube should circumvent well enough, should it not?
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>>135856135
>The average loss in IQ was reported as a standardized weighted mean difference of 0.45, which would be approximately equivalent to seven IQ points for commonly used IQ scores with a standard deviation of 15.* Some studies suggested that even slightly increased fluoride exposure could be toxic to the brain. Thus, children in high-fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ scores than those who lived in low-fluoride areas. The children studied were up to 14 years of age, but the investigators speculate that any toxic effect on brain development may have happened earlier, and that the brain may not be fully capable of compensating for the toxicity.

>“Fluoride seems to fit in with lead, mercury, and other poisons that cause chemical brain drain,” Grandjean says. “The effect of each toxicant may seem small, but the combined damage on a population scale can be serious, especially because the brain power of the next generation is crucial to all of us.”

Wow, sounds really insignificant! You must be smarter than a scientist.
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>>135856135
You're arguing with alex jones fans. Why bother?
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>>135855548
That doesn't mean it's not an issue.
It just confirms the SD.
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>>135856250
yes it is
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>>135855655
Checked
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>>135856636
>>135856702
It's only an issue if you're measuring individuals. They're taking the AVERAGE IQ of a large sample. You are essentially arguing that you can't say there's a measurable IQ difference between Hispanics and whites, or whites and Asians, or Hispanics and blacks, because the average is less than the SD.
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>>135856443
Because he wants to deny reality
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>>135856231
Please have my children
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>>135856841
>responding to your own proxy samefagging
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>>135856798
hmmm really makes you think
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>>135856881
That's not my proxy. This is.
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>>135856934
I guarantee that mathematically illiterate faggot voted for Clinton
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How many jew pharmaceutical companies advertise with HBO?

Infowars products are literally just whole foods suppliers private labeling for Alex, he even says this on air. Anyone who tries to dismiss supplements as crazy is an actual moron or shill. Fast food is literal poison yet you know you'll see a McDonalds ad right after the Late Show...
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>>135853663
Why do I need some unfunny bong to validate that crazy Alex Jones is crazy?
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>>135857064
>admits he has a list of proxies
Whoever is paying you is wasting their money
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>>135856135
I don't think you understand what standard deviation is.

A standard IQ test has a standard deviation of 15. This does NOT mean that if you test someone once and they score a 100 you could test them again and they might score an 85 or a 115. If you test someone once and they score 100, they'll score 100 every time. Standard deviation is not an error in the test. What a "standard deviation of 15" means is that 68% of the population has an IQ of 100 +/- 15, and 95% of the population has an IQ of 100 +/- 30.

Standard deviation measures the distribution of data, it has nothing to do with the accuracy of the test.

The study says an average IQ loss of 7 was measured, this means that what they observed is that the entire normal distribution of IQ scores one would expect to find with a median of 100 and a standard deviation of 15 now has a median of 93 and a standard deviation of 15.

This means that if everyone on Earth consumes an excess of fluoride, then the planet's average IQ will fall to 93, with 68% of the population having an IQ of 93 +/- 15 and 95% of the population having an IQ of 93 +/- 30. In other words, it makes people stupider.
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>>135853663
Gotta admit the writers of the show are pretty damn good
Johnny boy on the other hand is just a discount Stewart, his lack of charisma is puzzling for a tv show host
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>>135856443
>you're arguing with shitposters who meme AJ's psychotic ass because he's hilarious and meme worthy
ftfy
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>>135853663
He didn't prove anything.

Not even debunking the stuff he is talking about for 20 minutes. He can't prove his drugs don't work (they actually do, they're just too expensive). He can't prove the thing with the frogs isn't true (it is true).

The entire segment is "PLEASE NEVER TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY, GOYIM, YOU JUST CAN'T BECAUSE HE SELLS EXPENSIVE THINGS AND WAS WRONG ABOUT SANDY HOOK. PLEASE DON'T TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY."

He even says this 1:1

If you get influenced by this weasel and hate Jones even just a little bit more after watching this shit, you are a subhuman and should off yourself.
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>>135856231
Are you unemployed?
Or just on vacation?
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>>135857080
HBO doesn't have ads
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>OP only posted once
/pol/ - Viral Marketing
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>>135857207
>If you test someone once and they score 100, they'll score 100 every time.
You're not a smart man.
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>>135854972
Yeah, it's shit and harmful, though.
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>>135853663
I don't care much for jones, but Oliver "exposing anyone as a fraud" amuses me. Oliver is a grade a intellectual fraud, so him exposing anyone is patently ridiculous
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>>135857411
There must be fluoride in your vodka or something because you're a fucking idiot. The accuracy of the test is completely different than the standard deviation.
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>>135857334
He doing us a great service, so shut your fucking whore mouth.
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>>135857411
He's right. You might deviate by a couple points depending on things like how tired you are, but that has nothing to do with the SD.
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He didn't even mention how Jones was getting close to Trump's involvement as a top player in pizzagate. So Trump made his stop reporting on pizzagate.

Then days after Jones applogized for pizzagate, Trump gives him White House press credentials.

And all you tards can talk about is tap water making frogs gay.
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>>135857498
>The accuracy of the test is completely different than the standard deviation.
Then why did you brought up that non-arggument at all you dum dum?
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>>135857334
He's making sure the kikes dont get money on jewtube faggot
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>>135853663
what's the difference between an elevator and a mexican?

an elevator can raise children.
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>>135857640
I can't decipher this nonsense. Learn English before posting on an English language imageboard.
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>>135857640
Another proxy. Russians don't talk like that.
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>>135853663
Alex is enjoying the fruits of capitalism, and is a start down the rabbit hole for many people. Fuck off commie kike.
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>>135853663
>John Oliver picks unimportant things to criticize Alex Jones like a high school girl gossiping to her friends.

FTFY cheers
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>>135857532

I'm not denegrading the man. Just interested.

Norway has a great social safety net.
If he's unemployed he's living many times better than I do.
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>hating on a mere water filter salesman
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The fuck y'all talking about standard deviations for? In order to see if fluoride is affecting IQ you would check to see if the p value is statistically significant. Like hello? Why are some of you trying to argue that if it decreases by 9 and the standard deviation on in tests is 15 then it is not significant. What?
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>>135857591
Why did you assume that my post had something to do with the standart deviation instead of the specific part i quoted?
>>135857750
Why state something as a fact when you know a) it is false and b) it has nothing to do with the point of your argument? To sound smarter?
>>135857760
>Russians don't talk like that.
Oh, we have an expert on the "russian talk", how cute.
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>>135854647
But aren't the water districts with fluoride in predominantly low income areas? The whole reason they put that shit in the water is to help prevent tooth decay yea? In low income areas, where other structural problems like poor local schools might affect cognitive differences.
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>>135856135
Please back to /tv/, retard.
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>>135853663
>leftwing propagandists criticize rightwing propagandists

lel, what else is new?
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>>135856443
>everything Alex Jones ever said must be wrong and stupid because I don't like Alex Jones

Looks like John Oliver was successful.
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>>135857978
>b) it has nothing to do with the point of your argument?

It does have to do with the argument. The guy I was replying to was confusing the test's accuracy with standard deviation. See this sentence:
>If you were to do the test again, because there is a standard deviation of 15, you could end up with a +15 IQ gain, or a -15 IQ loss.

This is completely wrong. Therefore both accuracy and standard deviation needed to be explained. You're right that if you score 100 you won't really score exactly 100 every single time, the test has some level of inaccuracy, and people perform differently under different situations. But the test does not have an error of 15 fucking points like the guy I was replying to claimed. Such a test would be completely useless.

He mixed up error in the test results with standard deviation, so both things needed to be explained.
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>>135857774

Yup . And hes proof that unfettered capitalism leads to snakes oilsman shilling their fraud products to the masses without any consumer protections
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>>135853663

/pol/ exposes the fuck out of libtard John Oliver, proves he's a fraud and a total hypocrite:

The John Oliver Property Tax Scam: HBO Comedian Secretly Buys Manhattan Mansion

http://observer.com/2017/05/john-oliver-property-tax-scam-trump/

"So it’s a little surprising to discover that just months before, Oliver had a tax attorney set up two revocable trusts, one for him and one for his wife, to hide the couple’s purchase of a $9.5 million Manhattan penthouse. Then he used a tax loophole created by Donald Trump himself back in the 1970s, when the current president was merely a prominent New York real estate developer and aspiring celebrity author.

(...)

But just four months before Oliver’s July show, he had hired slick New York law firm Proskauer Rose LLP, which, in addition to union-busting and representing BP America, ChevronTexaco and ExxonMobil, specializes in helping the rich find tax breaks and buy real estate. Proskauer also has a long-time Private Client Services group, whose “lawyers handle complex tax and estate planning matters for wealthy multinational families,” as well as “executives, Internet entrepreneurs, art collectors and investors, professionals and real estate developers, among others,” according to its website.

Oliver’s lawyer at the firm was Jay Waxenberg, who “focuses his practice on estate and tax planning and estate and trust administration.” Waxenberg, the website goes on, “represents many families with significant multigenerational wealth, and has assisted them in the structuring of their estate plans so as to minimize gift, estate and generation-skipping taxes in the transmission of their wealth through several generations.”

In other words, Waxenberg is exactly the type of fancy pants attorney who helps his 1 percent clientele get the tax breaks and use the loopholes that Oliver gets such mileage deriding on TV. "
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>>135858012
NOW YOURE MAKING STUFF UP
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>>135858457
Oh no, Oliver uses the laws like other people.. that fraud!
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>>135853689
BASED
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>>135858012

There's even less evidence that flouridated water splashing against your teeth has any effect on "hardening" them or preventing tooth decay.

we know for a fact that flouridated water causes flourosis in large amounts. furthermore, its been shown that some people are susceptible to sodium flouride being improperly stored within bones and other tissue when the body can't get rid of it. this can cause all kinds of problems, namely osteoperosis due to flourosis.

In Australia and NZ, they give different reasons for flouridation than the US, Canada also gives different reasons than the US. It's an easy way to deal with extremely expensive nuclear and fertilizer waste.

I went through every single study dating back 100+ years when i wrote a paper on flouridation, i never found a single study that even suggested there was a demonstrable benefit to flouridation other than speculation on how the mechanism might work. when flouride is compounded, with say Sodium, the most prevelant kind of flouride, it does have a "hardening" effect to bones, but this is not good as it really makes the brittle, and this effect was not found by "washing" them in flouride by through ingesting flouride.
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>>135858383
Oh, i must've mixed you up.
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>>135853689
This is the highest level of autism you can achieve.
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>>135858457

http://www.llnyc.com/142500-take-a-look-inside-john-olivers-10m-riverside-boulevard-penthouse
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>>135858387
Read sometime. About the FDA....
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>>135857346
Replace HBO with another channel owned by the same parent company (Time warner I think?) and the point remains..

How dare Alex be self sufficient without big pharma ad revenue, how dare he be entrepreneurial!
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>>135858387
Gullible retards were going to be separated from their money one way or another. What the fuck do you think other rich people are doing with their time? They'll just find a way you won't notice or that your morality approves of.
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>>135858614

He's a typical liberal hypocrite, read the article dumbass.
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John Oliver is a globalist cum guzzler just like OP!
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>>135853663
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>>135859356
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>>135859259
If he was Republican you would applaud his behavior. I don't even like John Oliver.
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>>135853663
So John Oliver did a video where he BTFO out of Alex Jones by pointing out the products advertised in Alex's show suck.
Is John Oliver going to BTFO Colbert for the same reasons? Or Seth Meyers? Both advertise horrible products, including those payday loans Oliver hates
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>>135855884
so what? lower iq people are happier
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>>135854141
Smoking is good for you too. Lots of studies from 50s say so.
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>>135853663
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>>135853663
>this collection of ad hominems and unfunny jokes will surely be the end of him
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>>135859544
>Pointing out someone's hypocrisy is a Republican thing

Huh? Really? Since when? I didn't know that
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>>135853663

Alex did say they were making a coordinated effort to go after him. Might not be such a fraud after all.
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>>135853689
I love you so much be my bf
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>>135855573
Alex Jones is talking about the Awan DNC stuff. He's the shittest disinfo agent in the world. He even says the jewish mafia runs the US!
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>>135853689
>20 seconds

fucking how
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>>135855618
Imagine how dumb aborigines would be if they bothered to brush their teeth.
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>>135860028
this so much
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>this just strengthens alex
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>>135853663
>https://hooktube.com/watch?v=WyGq6cjcc3Q
John Oliver's comedy is this:
the thing you see is close to this thing
which is like this stupid thing
+ laugh tracks
oh, watch this one, it is crazy... it is like this stupid thing that we made of + laugh track ... for 20 minutes!
for the frog gay clip in the beginning watch this video, totally explain it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2-qdxhC6jc
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>>135856250
But anon. That is how stats work
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>>135857080
>Fast food is literally poison.

LOL

I can't eat a big Mac once in awhile?
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>>135861264
It isn't. You can measure differences in the distribution means between the different groups that are smaller than the standard deviation of the distributions.
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>>135854245

Here's the thing about IQ... All the stuff that parents do to "stimulate" their children works. It really does boost the IQ of children.
Notice how I keep saying "children"? Those gains disappear by adulthood, when everyone reverts to their genetic potential. Basically, we know how to pull future development to the present, but we don't know how to create more development than there would have been without all the crap.
Now allow me to summarize the linked flouride study: Part A - 4 chinks tortured p until it told them what they wanted to hear. Part B - knowledge of cofactors studiously avoided. Part C - yet another study that claims to show the danger of magical toxin X without measuring anyone's exposure to X. See Briggs's rant: http://wmbriggs.com/post/2730/
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>>135853663
Literally who the fuck is John Oliver
and why would anyone give a fuck about anything it had to say.
Post pictures of his two anuses
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>this stuff is found only in comets and sometimes in blueberries

what the fuck is jones talking about
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fuck john oliver and fuck the dnc
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>>135861752
Does it matter? It's so bizarre that it becomes absurd and then hilarious. Alex is a real memester.
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Genuinely one of the most visually and intellectually repulsive people I've ever seen.
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>>135853799
>He's not a fraud, he's a humble water filter salesman.

Fixed.
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>>135857346
not on their programming bloc but you'd better fucking believe they certainly do partner with advertisers for their IPs
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>>135853663
>le current year man VS le water filter salesman
while i will give le current year man that he makes a very convincing argument and comes off more professional there is a major flaw in his argument towards the end

when he brings up the ghey frog and blast jones for selling water filters. they found hazardous levels of estrogen in the water in san francisco years ago and found unsafe levels in other cities

where does it come from? old women taking hormone therapy to fight growing a beard when their ovaries dry up and trannies. they take it a portion passes through their bodies and the water treatment facility wasnt made to handle it and it goes to your tap. this also affects some local water systems in some cases as the water doesnt go strictly through pipes from your toilet to the water treatment facility and back to your house. there are reservoirs and "waste buffer" areas and amphibians have highly permeable skin

jones doesnt break many stories. he has a team that scours the web and consumes many articles and spits out a different presentation some times with additional info that may not have made the final cut in the source articles. no offense. by attacking the frog le current year man just ended up on one side of a argument and the scientific community is on the other

also this isnt even uncommon in news. major news networks do it all the time. one runs a story others recycle 75% of the info and add a little
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>>135853689
>https://hooktube.com/watch?v=WyGq6cjcc3Q

by making the vid available in other countries you've actually increased his audience.
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>>135863604
Using le.....fuck off ya leddit piece of shit i hope a pack of niggers rapes your mom and they throut fuck her so hard her guts explode you subhuman faggy piece of shit.
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Alex is controlled disinfo. He starts off on a real topic but it quickly devolves into interdimensional space rapists. He does it on purpose.
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