Give me ONE (1) argument against open borders. And no, racism/irrational

>>135762610
non whites are a disease

>>135762610
Racism is the argument though. You would advocate that people willingly go into nations where a sizeable population hates them? You can say open borders are a good thing all you wish, at the end of the day, people will always value their/families/kin more than an immigrant from a war torn nation that will likely never attempt to assimilate into their land, that will likely never try to be better than working class, and that will likely resort to crime because their new nation isn't made of fairytales and dreams.

I'm not against open borders, I'm against fuckheads like you that think just by saying "the border is open!" that the border will magically disappear from written history and memory. To say open borders are a good thing is to go against the history and conflict that created them and to open yourself up to that conflict again.

>UN flag
Couldn't take Syria anymore, eh Khalid?

>>135762610
It would destroy social cohesion as people traveling from different countries wouldn't be forced to try and assimilate to the culture of the country they want to travel to.

Traveling between countries without checks and controls in a no-borders scenario would make it impossible to keep track of people and you wouldn't need documentation to travel, effectively making having social programs infeasible.

It would also mean that capable people from undeveloped places would flock towards developed countries without restraint, causing brain drain on the undeveloped countries.

And it ruined my country.

>>135762610
Shill can't even reply to his thread.

>>135762610
Since you asked, one could chose from the following possible or perceived disbenefits to form a reasonable argument:-
Tax increases, fewer jobs, higher medical bills, higher house prices, higher crime, polarization of society, challenges to education system where non English language is provided, dilution of culture, refugee preference to have local solutions

>>135763046
What do you mean I can't pick racism!?

Lel

>>135762610
A country is like a party, if uninvited guests show up you don't have enough food or drinks for them and people have to share. If everyone gives an rsvp then there's no issues because the party planners can prepare for them.

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>>135762610
Diferance between average IQ between races.Overpopulation and the fact that becouse of the way we ecolved we feel better when living with people who look like us.

The more important question is who is really pushing for open borders and why? As you know there is a progressive shift towards open borders under the guise of humanitarian causes, in reality they are either knowingly or unknowingly asking for more Government and a consolidation of more power to an un-elected oligarchy. This was the goal of the EU and the goal of a North American Union.

This is absolutely, fundamentally dangerous, The thought or possibility of turn key tyranny on a global scale should cause some hesitation to rethink this because this is where we are heading..
What we are sold is a Star Trek globalization/NWO, when in reality, the end game could just as well turn out to be Hunger Games style NWO.

>>135766360
>>135765030
>>135764733
>>135763321
>>135763046
>>135762982
>racism
>argument

Pick one, inbred redneck trash

>>135767538
But race and IQ is not me only being raicts there is real sciance behind it, just calling me racist woun't change the fact.

>>135767538
>Don't bring up any racism
>hurr durr racism

>>135767677
>But race and IQ is not me only being raicts there is real sciance behind it
I call bullshit, race is a disproven hoax that was invented by whites in order to justify their oppression and exploitation of people of colour.

>>135767764
>hurr durr im a xenophobic white inbred retard and cant see PoC taking what is rightfully theirs

>>135762610
I'll eat the bait.

>They don't work and leech welfare.
>If they do work they decrease the value of labour. Further impoverishing the middle class
>They rape our women
>They're gonna vote for Sharia law eventually
Bonus: They are racially inferior to us

>>135767538
>Haha turns out any opposing opinion is actually racism and therefore you are all wrong :^)

>give me an agrument
>your arguments arent arguments

>>135762610
Labor distribution

we bit the bait boys

>>135762610

Reminder that even Bernie Sanders knows this is retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0

>>135762610
Give me one reason why you don't leave your door open when you leave the house?

>>135768069
Oh okay so this is all predicated on a system of oppression you made up.

So even if we did propose an argument without racism it would never fit into your world view

Friendly reminder that being libertarian and being for national closed border is an inherent contradiction

>>135762982
/thread

>>135762982
And they have no right to lower my quality of life and the standard of living in my country, niggers can die in their own filth.

>>135762610
In general: They cost more than the average citizen, destroy more, and contribute zero. A loss-loss. They are also niggers

>>135762610
my country my rules, some random literal who from far away HAS NO SAY in my nations business

I'm ready to fight kill and die for my clay, are you?

>>135770314
This. They have a say in their own shithole they came from.

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>>135762610
4 words:

FUCK

OFF

WE'RE

FULL

>>135762610
>Give me ONE (1) argument against open borders.
Europe

>>135770930
>>135770703
>>135770559
>>135770314
>>135770207
>>135770137
>>135769741
>>135769716
>>135769040
>>135768905
>>135768814
Holy shit so much inbred white trash appeared, its like Im in the american south.

>the colour of your skin justifies you to treat others like trash and excluding them

Fucking retarded racist people "logic"

>>135771319
>no racism plz
>fucking inbred redneck white trash
Why do people keep responding to such obvious bait?
sage and hide

>>135771558
>>no racism plz
>>fucking inbred redneck white trash
How is that racism?
Do I have to explain now why reverse racism doesnt exist?

Holy shit you people are retarded.

How about this one:

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/crime/329589-the-truth-about-crime-illegal-immigrants-and-sanctuary-cities

"To extrapolate out these statistics, this means that a population of just over 3.5 percent residing in the U.S. unlawfully committed 22 percent to 37 percent of all murders in the nation"

and

"In California, there are just over 92 illegal immigrants imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals as compared to 74 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants. In Arizona, the rate is nearly 69 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000, as compared to 54 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants.

In New York, over three times as many illegal immigrants or 169, are imprisoned for crimes per 100,000, as compared to only 48 citizens and legal non-citizen immigrants. "

Fact is a large amount illegal immigrants have zero respect for the law. Which should be obvious since they are ILLEGAL immigrants.

They come from 3rd world shit holes where crime is normal. They grew up with a different moral code. These are not the people you want living on your street.

And dont get me started on the migrant crisis here in Europe. These people are not civilised. they rape, burn, steal and shit in public fountains. They are all men too, not innocent women and children as the media claims.

Muslims do not want to live with our values.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law 50% want homosexuallity illegal.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/738852/British-Muslims-Sharia-Law-enforced-UK-Islam-poll 4 in 10 want sharia law.

http://www.aei.org/publication/poll-13-of-syrian-refugees-are-isis-sympathizers/ 13% are ISIS sympathisers

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/migrant-crime-germany-rises-50-per-cent-new-figures-show/ Crime rate increased by 50% among migrants in Germany.

There are hundreds of reasons to not want open borders.

>>135772331
Why not archive?
>http://thehill com/blogs/pundits-blog/crime/329589-the-truth-about-crime-illegal-immigrants-and-sanctuary-cities
https://archive.is/LTm4X

>>135762610

Racism is not inherently irrational, an argument is not invalid simply because it offends you, stop being a retard.

>>135762610
It literally doesn't matter what i say because you'll cry racism to anything

>>135772376
based black man

>>135772622
>>135772534
>>135772376
>>135772331
Racism is a crime against humanity and there is no WAY im gonna accept racist premises and objevtively false claims by european supremacists.

So theres your hurr durr stop crying racism.

>>135762610
It reduces the value of labor, the only ones who benefit are the corporations. Stop sucking captitalist dick you no good facist

>>135762610
Inverted colonialism.

If colonialism and the white mans burden, or the conquest of the Indians is bad; then the inverse of colonization is also bad.

Look at voting demographics. We are not the same they vote against the interests of our children. When in positions of power they corrupt and destroy. They are a fifth column we invited in.

>>135768069
This is a bait thread. No more (yous) please

>>135762610
Open borders allow disease, drugs, weapons smuggling, gangs and other destabilizing elements global access.

>>135762610
demography change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c8FYcKWJzY&t

>>135762610
You stole my meme spell out number parenthesis number. Memes are not meant to be propogated

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>>135762610
Increased pressure on social programs due to a massive influx of migrants. There you go. There's one argument. You probaby won't address it because you're playing in the kiddie pool with wannabe nazis, virtue signalling about racism. If you truly advocate open borders, then you belong there. Don't waste my time.

>>135775727

No matter how you slice it, the deeper the blue, the more the state supports the parasite states on their backs. Fucking trumpcucks, cant even support your own families. repulsive.

>>135762982
fpbp meme implication

>>135762610
Its a Koch brothers scheme. Can you guess who said that?? Let's see if OP pays attention.

>>135776047
Truth has to be spoken

>>135762610
Give me one good reason to have a lock on your door and no racism/irrational hatred of poor people is NOT an argument

>>135762610
Simple. You can't have a functioning society or culture when everybody just comes wandering in and tries to do stuff their way. There's no way you'll find a consensus on how to live and what laws to pass. No borders equals anarchy, with all it's hideous consequences.

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>>135762610
>>135771319
>>135771774
>>135774314
(you)

>>135762610
National borders are like a bulkhead in a ship. If one compartment of the ship is flooded by water, the bulkhead prevents the whole ship from being flooded and sinking. National borders create a containment zone for any type of man made crisis, such as rebellion or disease. It is foolish utopian idealism to think that the world does not need borders.

>>135762610
>Not the same culture
>It will eventually destroy host country culture in favour of a "world" culture which is the opposite of diversity
>The differences will cause hate, which is the opposite of a "society free of hate". Ex: how everyone hates british tourists because they become monkeys right after they exit the airport.
>different skin colour will just exalt the differences
>Its objectively true that the IQ of Africans is significantly lower than other countries. Why would any country want stupid people.
>racemixing destroys diversity see: Brazil, USA. It will eventually develop into a WE WUZ culture. Example of typical american: "i am 2% irish, 6% scottish, 0,5% german, 8,5% swedish 15% english, 1% italian, 19% dutch and 20% senegalese 28% mexican according to my 23andme! I am white italian!"

>>135774314
Racism is a buzzword created by Leon Trotsky in the 1920s to undermine russian nationalism, it is a meaningless droning sound emitted from those who do not care about evidence and fact but only their own pitiable sheltered feelings.

>>135768069
>race doesn't exist
>PoC
Saged

>>135762610
Because open borders = no borders, anon. If people can freely travel from one nation to another, then they cease to be distinct. The different "nations" would quickly become more like American states. This would lead to nations with larger populations absorbing those with smaller ones, effectively cultural/ethnic genocide by outbreeding. In addition, as intelligent, social mammals, tribalism is one of our deepest, most basic instincts. Forcing mass migration would lead to nothing but mass oppression and violence. Picture Yugoslavia's breakup. That is the inevitable result of your deluded open borders plan.

>>135768069
"muh pwecious nigs"
"muh racism"
"muh big city lifestyle"
Take your (you) and fuck off back to Buzzfeed, globalist faggot.

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>>135766217
/thread

>>135762610
I bet these niggers cant even read whats on the sign

>>135762610
Keeping traditions.Maintaining a solid and homogenous population,plenty of reasons

>>135783398
>>135783233
>>135782609
>>135782282
>>135781918
>>135779903
>>135779259
>>135778126
Im failing to see a SINGLE (1) argument in all your posts since racism is not an argument but a crime against humanity.

>>135783822
(You)

>>135783822
ur a crime against humanity

>>135784162
>>135784246
>white inbred trash triggered
Lmao

>>135784691
(You)

>>135783822
I just told you. They cost more than the average citizen, destroy more and contribute almost zero. There are statistics for this. Statistics isnt racist.

>>135784691
I don't think your being paid per response. Are all whites besides single white women between the ages of 25 - 34 inbred white trash.

>>135784691
shitskin inbred kike

>>135784835
Swede. He's (you)

>>135762610
Mexico is such a terrible place that even Mexicans don't want to live there

>>135784835
What do you expect when you discriminate against them and let them stay poor?

>>135784733
>>135784835
)))you((( Neo Nazi trash LMAO

>>135785143

Describe why racism is a crime against humanity, note that evidence has shown a lack of racism is tied to low IQ.

>>135785099
In fiscal 2017 200,000 immigrants arrived in the US by any means or from any background. 51% were from asia 29% from the America (IN Canada) 5% from Africa (mostly Muslims not negroes) and 15% from Europe a large chunk of which are ukrainian refugees.

>>135762610
BECAUSE NOBODY LIKES A FUCKING NIGGER!
AND YES I'M RACIST

>>135785143
(You)

>>135785228
>claiming again the debunked hoax that the colour of your skin somehow makes you prone to certain behaviour patterns

LMAO you make me chuckle, you dumb redneck retard

Why am I even responding to you borderline retards

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>>135762610
Destroys the value of labor, cratering the quality of life in developing countries. In addition to lowering wages, an increase of lower class residents leads to an increase of crime, and a strain on any public welfare and social services (schools, police, etc). At the same time, increases costs of housing and other necessary commodities in increasingly crowded developed countries. All of this destroys social mobility.

Any questions, shill?

>>135762610

What about rational hate for skin color, filthy nigger?

>>135785616
Race goes deeper than skin color.

>>135762610
>all shitskin subhumans move to 1st world
>1st world becomes 3rd world at best and completely destroyed at worst
>OP and his family get raped and murdered, not necessarily in that order
>but hey at least im not a racist
how about u liberals take all ur nigger pets into your house and we will keep our houses pure and see how it works out in 1 month, trust me u wont survive

Op lacks self awareness and does not realize he is an anti white racist in his own right.

>>135762610
HERESY! Each society has its own word for HERESY!

Communists called all HERESY! fascism.

Fascist Italy called all HERESY! Communism.

Today, the Politically Correct tyranny calls HERESY! "Hate!"

They call people who speak HERESY! names.

You Political Correctness fanatics are playing a very old game.

When you scream HERESY! aka Hate! at people who disagree with you, it says nothing about the point we make.

But it tells us ALL about YOU ANTI-WHITES.

>>135785616

that's neither debunked nor a hoax, the evidence is significant but simply swept under the rug by both the overly polite and the traitorous, now, why is racism a bad thing?

>>135762610
Countries with problems will just spill their problems into other countries without fixing it themselves. In the end both countries end up ruined.

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>>135762610
Porous borders destroyed the Roman Empire, because the immigrants became invaders and decided to seize control of the nation. I know you are a Leftist, and take your lessons from Harry Potter and Star Wars, but for once, open a history book OP.

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>>135762610
>Racist / Racism
>Go back to /leftypol/

>>135785788
This too.

>>135785143
We dont. They get more money than me sometimes, and i have a job. Poverty is not really a thing here. Why do they come here if it's "so racist" then? Did you know almost all rapes are done by minoritys from africa and muslim countrys? Over 90%, while they only are 20% of the population. If you say "thats why white women discriminates them and wont sleep them", i have one answer: people want to be with their own.

>>135785682
>>135785690
>race does exist and is not a hoax created by racists in order to justify their oppression and exploitation of PoC
LMAO

>>135785758
>subhuman redneck trailer park trash talks about inferiority

>>135785788
>reverse racism is totally real guise!!!11

>>135785832
But it has been disproven by science A BILLION TIMES.

>>135764733
>Tax increases
why? i don't think you know how taxing works

>fewer jobs
myth. bigger labor force = more economic benefit

>higher medical bills
again, why? immigration has nothing to do with medicine

>higher house prices
maybe, but never globally. if by higher you mean bigger segregation between districts. this is still a problem literally every city in the world has: uptown, downtown, the cheaper town, the expensive town. if anything this problem comes from elitism, not immigration. the price difference gets higher, not the prices themselves

>higher crime
myth. though linked to point above.

>polarization of society
there is no such thing as one society. see above.

>challenges to education system where non English language is provided
you mean english courses? sure, the government has to invest in programs to include immigrants but this is heavily outweight by the economic benefit of a bigger labor force

>dilution of culture
what culture? is a new york pizza dillution of american culture or italian culture?

>refugee preference to have local solutions
?????

read more anon.

>>135786360
>(you)

>>135786360
>>race does exist and is not a hoax created by racists in order to justify their oppression and exploitation of PoC
>LMAO
Okay this an official JIDF Slide/Raid thread nothing to see here let it die

SAGE

>>135762610
The important thing to do when you sage is to only do it if you're the first poster. If you're the first poster,

1) type sage in the options
2) type sage in the message field to signal others to turn away.
3) the most important thing to do is to hit the back button and then hit R. And VOILA! The post is gone.

If you're NOT the first poster to a shill thread, simply skip right to step 3.

Sage

>>135786160
>white people pillage PoC for centuries, enslave them and look their nations
>somehow expect to be treated nicely

Karma is a bitch.

>>135786360

Actually no it's been repeatedly confirmed by science and the data has been misinterpreted for your consumption, similar to climate change.

>>135786656
Well now we know at least you stand against White People, and therefore no White person should listen to you.

>>135786360
It is not reverse racism. It is racism against whites, pure and simple. Op is a hypocrite.

>>135762610
because it allows people with nothing to come here and leech off the system without being held responsible to that system. the U.S. does not have the capacity to save everyone. furthermore nor should it. the only way open borders can work is if every nation gave the same benefits to everyone. i could go to mexico and be treated the same as i would be in Europe. but the world isnt like that and it never will be. we are still limited by resources and production this star trek where we are post scarcity. so why should America give it out when no other nations has to on a limited supply? Why should america make american exceptionalism?

Don't forget to Sage this thread, guys.

>>135786360
what retards like u dont understand you are architects of your own destruction, when there wont be anyone to blame anymore, u subhumans will eat each other, not all parts of Rome fell, not all of the West will fall and we will remember and u will die from your own nigger pets

>>135786656
Never mind that all people of all colors conquered and enslaved others throughout history, just focus on le ebil huwite man. Ok sodomite

>>135786700
>>135786700
Proofs or GTFO subhuman trailer park trash

>>135786730
But im white myself.

>>135786803
>I-Im a little kid and dont want to take responsibility for historical injustice!!!

No wonder mexicans hate you.

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>>135786921
sagesagesagesagesagesage

>>135762610
"Africa for Africans." Then go back you fucking nigger. We'll leave you alone while you shit in the jungle playing bongo on your chest. I'd be happy to sent you back. I'm sure white people will stay away.

>>135786656
Oh, fuck you! "white people", now your the racist one. Sweden did not do that, yet just becuase we are white we deserve to be punished for it and have our women gangraped? So, mass rapes is not an argument for stopping immigration from those countrys? You wanted arguments and you got them.

>>135787142
Mexicans are free to hate us, but they need to do it in Mexico !

>>135787142
>>135787142
So you are a self-hating White Man. That gives us even less of a reason to listen to you. You are like the progressive version of an Uncle Tom.

Remember to Sage guys.

>>135762610
I TOTALLY agree with this guy and I believe we should all have open borders.

Every country on Earth, even ones far away like Israel.

You might even say

>#Open borders for Israel

>>135787142

If you're going to be here for a while I can provide you with more evidence later, as for the argument for racial differences in intelligence here's a solid starting point. https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

>>135787114
>repeating racist lies about PoC being savages

LMAO

>>135786960
Follow your leader, subhuman trash.
(By that I mean you should kill yourself like your idol Hitler did)

>>135787395
Uncle xee

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>>135787522
You are a dimwit if you think proto humans were never uncivilized. Your notion of the noble savage is going to bite you one day. Schadenfreude

>>135787489

>Muh joos ar da reel rayciss

No shit, no one here already knows that, right?

>>135787522
kys subhuman

Open borders only cause chaos with mass migrations . The only reason you need cuck .

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>>135762610
SLIDE THREAD

EGAS THIS THREAD IN THE OPTIONS BOX

DNC KILLED SETH RICH

>>135787909

I don't know what you mean, I support open borders for all, I think you're mentioning Jewish people because you're the real racist

>>135762610
ahh i saw this thread before

GIVE ME ONE ARGUMENT AGAINST OPEN DOORS AND NO THIEVES, KILLERS AND RAPISTS

>>135762610
We are full... the ride is closed

Op knows the social experiment failed, and also knows that more whites are becoming racially aware every day. He sees the storm clouds gathering. The end is near op

>>135788552
>m muh racial awareness
>while literally being outbred by PoC

LMAO

>>135786803
Isn't that the point though for all countries to have the same benefits? They are still pushing for one world government, less resistance when every country looks the same and has the same socialist governments

>>135762610
Because fuck you, that's why.

>>135788893
No whites = no welfare check

>>135788893
kys subhuman

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>>135762610

1. economy have a limited resources, people rush in, overwhelm it and the economy collapses

2. people have a certain culture and customs, people not sharing them rush in, overwhelm the resident culture and it collapses

3. people want to self govern themselves, others rush in holding different ideas, the political system collapses


it's like mixing a kilo of shit with a kilo of jam, in the end you would get two kilos of shit, people would not be elevated moving to live in to the better places as they would not work hard to maintain them but expect the residents to provide them with wealth and prosperity and eat up everything, in the end creating the misery they ran away from

the only option for a global prosperity is people being made to work to develop their own countries instead of moving


also, niggers

>>135762610
If all you think we care about is skin color, then you need to lurk more.

>>135789206
>>135789118
>white """genocide"""

Whites dont know what a REAL genocide looks like. Only from the perspective of the aggressor and perpetuator.

>>135789370
kys subhuman

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>>135762610
I freely welcome all people who want to try cross our borders.

>>135789370

What are the mongols, turks and berbers ?

>>135789762
>using stuff that happened hundreds of years ago to justify your bigotry

>>135789762

No shit right, this dude is fucking retarded, but that's not surprising since he seems to be a progressive and they have no knowledge of biology, history, culture, or any other science.

>>135789762
Finns, Germans and Spanish.

>>135790018
>I I swear guise im totally educated guise, and not inbred trailer park trash!!!11

>>135789925
kys subhuman

>>135789925
What's your opinion on slavery buddy?

>>135790145
kys subhuman

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>>135789925

you weasel yourself out of an argument constantly changing your stances to fit in your pre-determined stance on the matter, you do not argue, you jabber

>>135790145

No seriously dude, you've demonstrated time and again you have no fucking clue about the real world, go slap your college professor, they turned you into a dumb fuck lol.

#OpenBordersForIsrael kills the Jewish ethno-state of Israel

>#OpenBordersForIsrael kills the Jewish ethno-state of Israel

#OpenBordersForIsrael kills the Jewish ethno-state of Israel

>#OpenBordersForIsrael kills the Jewish ethno-state of Israel

>>135762610

you aren't going to change our minds, why do you bother?

>>135762610
>And no, racism/irrational Hatred for skin colour is NOT an argument
nice begging the question, faggot. racism is absolutely an argument

>>135790294
Well its historically one of the worst crimes that white people have commited.

>>135790318
What are you talking about eastern european trash

>>135790331
>Im an uneducated fuck and work a manual labour job

t. You

>>135790145

please explain why anyone should take your political movement seriously when you believe in cognitive privilege. http://daily-iowan.com/2017/07/25/williams-what-is-privilege-and-what-do-we-do-with-it/

>>135767538
>begging the question
>framing the debate
>ad hominem
>arguments
fuck off back to niggerstan you low iq shitskin

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>>135762610
> The foreign population suddenly competes with the whole world(which can travel)
> migrants are a strain on welfare states

>>135790753
kys subhuman

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>>135762610
Helpfully framed in a disney movie so liberals are capable of understanding it

>>135790753
well slavery is still practised in africa and asia

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>>135762610
Right Wing Safety Squad advising all anons viewing this thread to follow the instructions of this image in order to combat /leftypol/ slide/bait threads such as this one. After the requirements are met, hide and ignore this thread. Regards, Right Wing Safety Squad.

>>135762610

OP, if you lock the door on your house when you leave it then you can fully understand why borders are necessary.

niggers are more genetically distant than all other human races. we do not share a mrca with nogs.

shitskins are statistically more likely to commit crime

poverty is not an excuse. see: minnesota transracual adoption study and white appalachia where there is piverty but no crime

>>135791114
And is totally not the legacy of oppression, slavery, colonialism and now capitalism, right?

Its like youve slept through your history classes.

>>135790753
>Well its historically one of the worst crimes that white people have commited
you don't know that slavery still happens in africa and the middle east and that it is much more brutal than white slavery ever was? educate yourself, nigger

>>135762610
>hurr hurr, racism bad

You aren't intelligent, you useless stupid traitor bastard. You're just a fuck, wanting to feel like you are. You're boring and juvenile.

IQ data, scientific studies, social statistics, history itself, the current and past situation in non-white countries in comparison to core white countries, across centuries of time, all prove that your fucking stupid egalitarian idiocy is false.

You are in denial about race, and because of that your worldview is fucking idiotic.
So bellow more warped stupidity, you little stupid ass. Herp your derp, and squeal out more of your "muh racists u r a dum" horseshit. Nobody cares here. You don't have your niggerlover fanclub here, around to pat your ass.
In fact, really you're just this era in history's version of the fucking communists of the past. You're going to end up a laughingstock to sane people in the end, because your ideas are shitty and don't line up with reality. History actually is not on your side.
The only sad thing about it, is fucking Shitbrains like you, are probably going to lead to more social strife, Zimbabwe's and South Africas happening, before people realize your sort of egalitarianism IS Retarded, Bud, and you're all just plainly fucking wrong.

>>135791445
>And is totally not the legacy of oppression, slavery, colonialism and now capitalism, right?
slavery existed in those areas way before white colonialism and capitalism ever was a thing. are you retarded?

if you are arguing that american niggers act as they do because of slavery then allow Dr. Sowell to btfo you here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lm-FqtAOSB8

you should educate yourself before bringing your weak arguments here

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>>135762610
>Welfare use
>criminals travel too
>people that made it home don't have to leave
>brain drain for the country of the people that leave
>influx of cheap labor driving down the price of labor of the natives
>culture clash
>immigrants in large numbers form enclaves and don't integrate
>commuication and morality difference issues
>illegal work (it isn't taxed and also drives down wages again)
>disease travels too
>etc, etc, etc.

With all that long list said I'd be fine with open borders if there was no welfare state.

>>135762610
I need borders to protect my family and non-family-members. My family by upholding a healthy and secure environment for them and non-family by making clear the boundaries of hospitality and hostility.

>>135791465

See >>135791445

>>135791445
retard slavery existed in africa and asia even before white man came there
slavery was common here too if you didn't knew that. Africans arent special

i know you're baiting, are you a leaf?

>>135792009
i already destroyed that post you illiterate nigger. gj reading your own thread

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>>135787142

>I'm White myself

In all seriousness though, idk what you were expecting coming to a board trying to have a productive discussion with a bunch of Stormfags.

Back to the first question, open borders is a silly concept for the world in its current state. Integration of newcomers, particularly of those from drastically different cultures, takes a lot of time. They need to learn the host nation's language, laws, and dominant culture if they want to thrive. Given that the hordes of third worlders want to flock specifically to the countries with the best systems of welfare, a completely open-borders system would completely overwhelm them. Also, people aren't going to all of the sudden start freely mingling and living in harmony. If multiculturalism is ever to work, it would have to be in very small doses.

You honestly sound like someone who thinks he's woke after taking an intro to sociology class, so I don't think you have as much of a high ground here as you think you do.

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>>135792009
gud
let me give you a proper medal

>>135762610

It would destroy our world.

>>135768069
>I call bullshit, race is a disproven hoax that was invented by whites in order to justify their oppression and exploitation of people of colour.
Because skinhead neonazies put slith eyed chinks and kike untermensch above them.

>>135771319
>excluding them
nigger, muslims are excluding europeans from entire cities around london, paris, etc. WE are inclusive, THEY are exclusive.

wearing a hijab is no different than when a white woman clutches her purse closer or crosses the street to avoid niggers like Michelle Obama complained about in that speech.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01FmAf1WEKs

around 1:25

>>135792089
No, Im a citizen of planet EARTH.

And why does it matter that slavery existed before?

Does it makes white atrocities better now?

>>135792130
>hurr durr im inbred white trash and retarded hurr durr

>>135769773
Lets first get rid of welfare and taxes before we get rid of borders.

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>>135792359

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Do we realy have to go through this again?
People would be motivated to migrate based on profit in the form of welfare which would drain rich countries of revenue, make them increase spending, destroy they're economies and the huge amounts of newly migrated people would never vote to get rid of that welfare causing a cycle of economic shit.
I personally couldn't give a shit about skin color i just care about how productive they are. Plus the more productive they are the better they integrate.

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>>135762610
Dissolution of culture, demographics, and possibly even the country. Look at the Roman Empire, they collapsed because uneducated Germanic hordes bred like rats inside of the empire.

>>135791445
kys subhuman

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>>135762610

We cant even stand another whites here. I cant imagine nigger tier shit coming to my country.

>>135792009
kys subhuman

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>>135792359
Sorry such state named earth doesn't exist
Atrocities happen and will happen no matter what, there's no reason to stop them
if you really want to stop cruelty and other such things you would need to eradicate all life in earth

>>135762610
I don't want Sharia law or age of consent laws that allow 12 year olds to have sex.

>>135792359
kys subhuman

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>>135771774
you're not even trying are you?
Sage.
But thanks for opening the discussion. While you wank your bulshit we get to share and stregthen our talking points.

>>135792359
don't ignore this post:
>>135791741

i know it destroys you

>>135762982
Because for the majority of non-whites, they are a boon to western society...

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>>135762610
Good day

>>135792858
>>135792825
>>135792788
>>135792920

It's a kike who got angry because some leaf posted 131 redpills awhile ago

>>135793103

This one
>>135720931

>>135771774
>reverse racism
kek

>>135762610
>Africa for the Africans
Oh yeah, whilst you retain the right to travel and infest Europe and America.
No, Africa is for the whites now. You niggers belong nowhere - NOWHERE!

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>>135792788
>>135792825
>>135792755
>white people cause pic related in all PoC countries and dont want to take reaponsibility

>get mad when PoC strike back at them

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>>135793362

>>135792178
Horseshit. He didn't come for a "productive discussion", he didn't come to discuss any study about the biological differences of humans, or any discussion to the social and economic consequences of letting illiterate non-white foreigners into other countries.
His dumb ass came to drool on the floor, grunt out that he doesn't like racism, and think himself some sort of fucking genius due to it. Period. That is all.

If he wanted a discussion about race, and he doesn't, not at all because he is a complete and total craven coward, he'd make a thread asking people to red pill him on racial differences. He won't. He's an intellectual weakling. He's afraid of those facts. The little bitch wants to hold on to his fairytale lie, that races don't exist and race doesn't matter. That's his little girly brained faith and it's a pudgy spongy core of who he is.

He's just a little pussy. If not a butthurt, biased, lying unrespectable Jew.

>>135793362
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-cbd-brawl-who-are-the-apex-gang-20160314-gnima2.html

>>135793362
Im not white tough so fuck off


stop crying for your dear africans that they lost survival of the fittest

>>135793103
Redpills have a side effect unfortunately. I lost a Nebraskan friend when I went from being a BernieBro to a Trump supporter.

>>135793362
don't ignore this post:
>>135791741 (You) #

i know it destroys you

>>135783822
>not a single argument
Fuck it, I'm taking the bait.

Faggot, all these people who werent just fucming with you had real arguments. I'll try to keep it non racist you dimwitted moron.

To say it plain and simple, the fusing of cultures is retarded. Its not racist because if we were to live in their land or they were to live in our land (like what we see happening), the same problems would be taking place. I'm not saying its bad to have a refugee come in, but the sheer scale of the refugees coming in are making 2 very different cultures clash, which is what you are seeing happening in Europe. These said cultures are the same cultures who have been warring with each other in one way or another since the crusades, so to have large number of both cultures in one country or countries, is problematic.

Now fuck off, heres your (you).

>>135789370
Answer my question

>>135792359

>No, Im a citizen of planet EARTH.

Now I am 100% certain you are either trolling or an underage poster who thinks he understands the world after following a few "woke" Instagrammers.

>>135793506

You're probably right.

>>135774314
Would you please tell that to pesident Zuma? Or president Mugabe. Or to the chinese and the japanese (the asians in general... man those guys hate each other).
But I guess only the white man can even be beholden to such moral principles.

>>135793362
kys subhuman

>dumb pieces of shit can't take care of their own country
>let them into your own country thinking they won't be a burden

lol ok

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>>135793103
kike or no kike she does have a point.

>>135794000
Well it's ok for me i'm decisively introvert. my actions are not motivated to please my family, friends/ acquaintances

>>135762610
Open borders destroy native people's capacity for greatness.
Let's start by saying that provocational threads like these that bait people into responding should be saged.
Remember: if you're not thinking clearly on about an OP you are being manipulated.
OP is always a fag until proven otherwise.
Sage.

>>135762610
Cultural homogeneity is a strength.

Private property. State property is immoral.

>>135794475
same

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>>135762610
21 posts by this ID, so ok, I'll bite.
I've got tons of reasons you will dismiss when "racism" isn't allowed (so lefty-cunt to set up an argument where certain points are not permitted regardless of how true they are)
Anyway, open border disaster for the poor countries.
Open borders means that those with resources (wealth, education, talent, skill) can easily leave poor countries. Thus making rich countries even richer, and the poor countries will be bleeding the best of their own. Making them even less likely to rise from where they are now.
>short version, open borders hurt the poor countries because their own resourceful people can easily leave

>>135789370
Holodomor, soviet purges of kulaks, multiple soviet famine, weimar germany, us whites understand anti white genocide. Kys if you hate what you see in the mirror, leave me out of your self hatred.

>>135762610
Most cultures around the world are simply not compatible. Allowing one culture to more or less invade another will cause violence.

Racist hypocrites like op are the best advertisement ever for race realism. Op keep on creating more race realists with your open border nonsense.

As a tax paying citizen of this country the government's first (and only) duty is to me and other tax payers like me.

Open borders suppress labor prices, increase crime rate and, as a general rule, immigrants in this country are not quick to assimilate into our culture which serves to fracture and divide our society.

The fact of the matter is that our government is beholding to us and only us. Now I won't say that all immigrants all bad, but if anyone wants to join our society they need to prove not only that they won't be a burden, but also that they will provide a benefit to our society. They shouldn't be the average of our bunch, they should be exemplary.

ahahhhahhahahha hahahhaha the cuck left after he got btfo and had no counterarguments

>>135762610
Would collapse the welfare system as millions of unskilled people that can't/won't conform to the host society pour in demanding gibs.

This is not racist and would apply to any such setup with a wealthy nation boarding on a shitty one.

notice how the leftist just leaves the debate when he is presented with arguments and evidence

>>135762610
racism is realism fuck off fag flag

don't ignore this post:
>>135791741 (You) #

i know it destroys you
notice how the leftist just leaves the debate when he is presented with arguments and evidence

>>135762610
Massive bait, but fuck it.

Mass importation of low skill labour kills demand and therefore power in the proletariat. This undercuts the buying power of the working class, and the largest beneficiary of this deal is corporate interest. Where normally their labour force might refuse, strike, or unionize under bullshit deals, they can instead pay undocumented migrants under the table way less than any sane person should accept because it's marginally better than life in war torn Syria or Cartel occupied Mexico.

>>135768069
> race is a hoax

ok so there was no difference between "whites" who conquered the planet and everyone else

got it.

>>135762610
your picture??? did you not look at it?

Hopefully a lot of skin hating racists will see this thread and see that you get BTFOd everytime you dare to spread your problematic opinions.

>>135804229
don't ignore this post:
>>135791741

i know it destroys you

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>>135804614
>racist pseudoscience
>argument

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>>135762610
I feel countries have a right to control their borders. Also cultural continuity is a big deal, if you allow in too many foreign people it could have a negative impact on your culture.

The big example of this is Muslims in Europe.

Luckily in America we tend to assimilate people fairly well, and will continue to do so as long as there is a desire for it.

>>135804983
how is dr sowell racist or pseudoscientific? you have to qualify your assertations. you have nigger-tier argumentative abilities

>>135762610
irrational or not people don't like people who don't share their values. niggers are inherently violent and prone to crime, no matter where in the world they live. you're going to have a civil war on your hands.

>>135762610
Higher social harmony in more single-race countries

>>135805378
Americans as a whole have never shared values universally and we have survived.

>>135804983
notice how the leftist ignores and dismisses evidence that proves him wrong and provides exactly 0 counterarguments

looks like i won

>>135805539
You're right, individual rights, secularism, self-determination, representative democracy, etc have never been universally valued. Oh boy do I feel stupid

>>135762610
Fuck off, we're full.

>>135805862
>Individual rights
Not bestowed to blacks or Natives at the foundation. Everyone having rights is a recent concept, and not universally agreed upon for the history of the country.
>Secularism
The Christian right, I rest my case.
>Self-determination
Some states believe in it, other states do not. Even within states you see some disagreements over this.
>Representative democracy
Why were there so many restrictions on who could vote for most of American history? Again, not universally valued. Probably still not today.

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>>135762610
Don't mix whites with colors, or the colors will bleed

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borders put the border back into south of the border

>>135804983
notice how the leftist ignores and dismisses evidence that proves him wrong (>>135791741) and provides exactly 0 counterarguments

>>135762610
niggers

>>135804983 #
notice how the leftist ignores and dismisses evidence that proves him wrong (>>135791741 (You) #) and provides exactly 0 counterarguments

>>135762610
they don't fit in

but sage

notice how the leftist ignores and dismisses evidence that proves him wrong (>>135791741) and provides exactly 0 counterarguments

>>135762610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU0DNCV22dU

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>>135762610
They cost much more than they contribute and they bring violence wherever they go. Does your front door have a lock on it? Same reason different scale. You're not going to answer this post because you are a slide shill and a faggot.

>>135814020
>You're not going to answer this post because you are a slide shill and a faggot
he's a leftypol newfag trying babby's first shilling

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>>135768069
I now see you are either an Australian baiting for (you)'s or Justin Trudeau himself posting unironically. I suspect it to be the latter though.

>>135814356
>leftypol
deep state you mean

>>135814596
either way he needs more subtlty and/or to be more original and humorous because it was all trite boring shilling

>>135814742
They had a couple kike psychologists come up with their memes. They're custom designed to really make you think:

>/pol/ doesn't like kikes
>TRUMP IS A KIKE

>/pol/ doesn't like neocons
>TRUMP IS A NEOCON

etc. It's really amateur grade stuff, we really have some gold bricking retards working in the deep state. I blame affirmative action and nepotism, a bunch of retards and wife's sons.

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>>135792359
>>135792009
>>135791741
>>135791445
>>135790753
>>135790145
>>135789925
You gonna learn today faggot. Have some (you)'s This is now a nigger hate thread.

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OP is a massive faggot

notice how the leftist ignores and dismisses evidence that proves him wrong (>>135791741) and provides exactly 0 counterarguments

>>135786365
Are you fucking retarded?

>Tax increases
Taxes would increase because refugees and lower-class immigrants generally create a net drain on society, as they use many government-provided programs and gibs. This is offset by taxing the already existent population, the citizens who provide a net gain for society.
>Fewer jobs
Sure, immigrants may provide a level of economic benefit, but if you start flooding a no-borders country with immigrants, soon enough you're just going to run out of jobs. Even in industrialized, first-world nations you're seeing the beginnings of job shortages in many fields.
>Higher housing prices
Again, not many new houses and apartments are being built, especially in cities where municipal code heavily restricts new construction in certain areas, so flooding a nation with refugees and immigrants is going to create a huge demand for housing with a system that can't supply it.
>Higher crime
Not a myth; spend more than a few hours here and you can see all sorts of statistics showing that blacks, Syrian refugees, and Mexicans all commit violent crimes at much higher rates than whites do. Hell, Sweden even stopped recording rape statistics by race because Syrian and African immigrants were shown to be 4-5x more likely to commit rape than native Swedes.
>Polarization of society
Are you so blind that you can't already see the massive buildup of racism, nationalism, and populism in Europe and America due to the problems caused by refugees and immigrants? Immigrants, especially refugees, refuse to integrate; they don't follow local rules and laws, they don't speak the local language, and they don't observe local customs. Their refusal to adopt their "new home" causes significant social friction because they refuse to dissolve the distinction that they're outsiders.
(1/2)

>>135786365
(2/2)
>Challenges to education system where non-English language is provided
Again, immigrants and especially refugees refuse to learn the local language of their home, certainly not the the point of fluency or even comprehendability. This means the school systems have to hire teacher who can speak the language of the immigrants and to hire translators to translate every important document into the language of the parents and students. Translators and multilinguals aren't cheap to hire, and all so that some parasites can access education they have no right to in the first place.
>Dilution of culture
Since immigrants and refugees love to keep their own customs, it hurts the culture of the nation they're leeching onto. Culture requires social participation; Christmas isn't an American or Christian tradition because a few families across the nation practice it; it's a part of our culture because damn near everyone has a Christmas tree up during December. But having a bunch of immigrants who refuse to adopt these customs means that the culure of the nation is diluted, because not as great a percent of the population participates in the customs and traditions. Many people are proud of their nation's various cultural traditions and customs and would like to see them continued, not diluted and replaced by various foreign cultural elements.

Immigrants and refugees can stay in their fucking country; they're parasites and criminals, and we don't want them here, and neither does anywhere else.