To christians on /pol/, how do you reconcile that your entire

>>135717026
maybe hating jews makes you a subverted chump.

maybe you stupid faggots are taking the bait hook, line, and sinker.

Christianity talks bad about Pharisaic Judaism (the forefathers of modern Judaism), saying that it is of the devil and that they are not saved. They are no longer God's people, since they rejected the Messiah. Jews hate Christianity for this, among other reasons. Christians are now the heirs of Israel, Jews are just salty problem-children.

A house divided against itself cannot stand, OP.

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>>135717026
I think that Christianity can be interpreted in a much more abstract way than it is...


At its core, Christianity is a narrative about God experiencing first-hand what it is like to exist within the reality that he created.


God's been in here and knows what it's like.


There's not really anything Jewish about that idea.

Don't get wrapped up in the mythology.

simple, jews today rejected their savior in favor of shekels

>>135717026

Jews are literally a people defined by rejecting Christ, and then killing him.

It isn't hard.

>>135717026
The Jews that actually followed their religion converted and the ones left are either Khazars or the rabbis who refused to follow their God

Judaism = Jews are gods chosen people, gentiles are subhuman

Christianity = Everyone is gods chosen people through Jesus Christ, jews are literally the synagogue of satan

>>135717026
following any religion is the most bluepilled thing you could do

>>135717026
>The Jews are in control of the world
>They can do this because they have a higher IQ than other races
>Their ideology has secret teachings that allow them to manipulate world events
>Christianity was started by a Jew who started making these secret teachings public
>The Jewish elite crucified Jesus for opening their religion
>Still, for centuries, Jews were powerless against Christianity
>To reclaim their position, Jews invented economics and mercantilism to gain power over the Church
>Christianity loses followers, but turns these inventions to its benefit
>Jews invent empiricism to destroy Christian faith
>Christianity loses followers, but uses empiricism to create unparalleled advances for the common man.
>After their previous inventions failed, Jews invent Marxism to crumble all the infrastructure of society
>The jews have all the money, the majority of governments, the most resources, but they still don't have complete control
>Everywhere that adopts Christianity gets better
>It still isn't dead
>Christianity must be controlled opposition
This is you. You are dumb.

>>135717026
Because dispensationalism is bullshit. The Jews broke their covenant with God and are eternally punished for it. Christian Europeans are the new Israelites.

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>>135717413
>They are no longer God's people, since they rejected the Messiah.
you must be very stupid to think that god can have enemies and that not all people are god's creations

>>135717901
Jews were the chosen people. They just didn't really understand what that meant. What it really meant was that they would be the bearer of God's word. Turns out that's a very heavy burden.

>>135718096
>Beign atheist
>Literally falling for the jewish trap of materialism

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NT isn't jewish. OT jews are different than the jews of today.

>>135718322
>>135718322
Don't know what dispensationalism is, but THIS. Fuck the Jews, they killed Jesus. This is like common knowledge no?

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>>135717026
it's simple

we kill the jewman

>>135718325
All people are God's creation, but that does not prevent people from making themselves an enemy of God. So long as we have free will, we have the freedom to reject God's salvation. While it seems like an obvious choice, there is much temptation in the world, and many people do not listen.

>>135718325
How did you get that from what I wrote?

>>135717901
And this is why the Christians are losing.

Cognitive dissonance works best for me. You should try it, I feel great

>>135718719
1 Thessalonians 2

14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

>>135717504
As someone who lost their faith in christianity about... 18 or so years ago, it's this perspective that has me entertaining the idea of returning.

>>135717026
>christians on pol
They should go to reddit

>>135718960
The ones that say they are Jews but are the synagogue of satan will be punished soon enough. It's very real that they commit blood sacrifices in order for Satan to give them power. They've purposely pushed every sin upon mankind in order for them to also worship him. God is not pleased.

>>135718719
But you are wrong. While some Jews killed Jesus, other Jews heard his message and shared the word of God. Don't forget that all of the first disciples were Jewish. It was the Jewish people who were chosen to receive the word, and many heard it. If they had not, we would not have heard it today. Truly, you should not hate the Jews who did not hear, you should pity them, and count yourself lucky that you were born under the circumstances you were. Had you lived then, it is more likely than not that you would have been one of the number who did not hear. I can't imagine the difficulty of discerning the truth in that time. With how much I struggle even in these easy times, I think if I'd lived to be tested then, I would have failed.

>>135719463
Well said, anon.

>>135717026
The (((Jews))) of today are not related to the ancient Israelites of the ancient world before Christ. Now don't get me wrong, a lot of them were treacherous traitors as well.

What made Israelites unique from all other races/nationalities in the world was their lineage. They could almost all trace their lineage back to Abraham, Isaac, and Israel. Jesus lineage in Matthew and Luke went as far back to Adam himself. In 70AD Tiberius Cesar ransacked Jerusalem in what is known as the Seige of Jerusalem of 70AD where the Romans attacked Jerusalem and destroyed the temple and all archived genealogies. After this, no Israelite on Earth could trace their lineages back anymore and all true Israelites disbanded throughout the Earth. The Age of Israel was over.

What you know of as Jews today are descendants of the Pharisees and Saducess, the enemies of Jesus. The religion they practiced was not based on the Torah, Psalms, and Prophets but on the Mishnah and Talmud which were descendants of Babylonian mysticism.

>>135719616
I don't often agree with a JW, but this anon is correct.

>>135719084
You are misreading this. This is not a condemnation against all Jews ever, but against specific groups of Jews who were known at that time. As we have moved further from that point, most Jews are people who were poisoned against the word, not people who rejected it in full.

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>>135717026
It's all part and parcel of being cucked by Israel and not even realising it.

>>135718473
>Jews were the chosen people.
What cuckery is this? There is no chosen people. Just a bunch of inbred racists subverting and destroying every civilisation they infect.

>>135718198
>Everywhere that adopts Christianity gets better
Yeah I love how great Africa has become. I love that all those Christian charities and missionaries give foreign aid and donations to prop up African populations. Any new Christians is a good thing, even if most Christians will be nonwhite in the coming years. This is a good, progressive thing and we should not only continue to give them money, but we should ALSO welcome them into our nations.

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the same way i justified this cuck being "alpha"

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>>135719169
you should

>>135717026
How do reconcile posting about Christianity while being so utterly clueless about it. Simply put, we don't hate Jews. Your premise is absurd.

Muh Jews killed Jesus. Are you unaware that ALL early Christians were Jews? Millions of Jews today are Christians. All 12 disciples, Jews. Paul, Jew. JESUS: Jew!

Gal 3:26For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

>>135719767
>>135719616
Not exactly correct. The lineages of the Pentateuch should not necessarily be considered as an exact historical record of individual persons in all cases. The writing styles of these books vary greatly, and you cannot examine these passages without considering their literary approach. An effective reading is not limited by a single, rudimentary interpretation. While reading it as a family tree may sometimes work, it seems more often to designate a history of kingdoms, tribes, houses, or nations. None of these words is quite accurate, but think of these books as a history of peoples, rather than people. This reading does not preclude the possibility of physical lineages as described, with the described ages being exact and personal, but you will walk away with a much greater understanding if you think in terms of various cultures and ideologies, all founded by the named individual, growing and flowering and interacting with each other. It is easy now, with how we relate to names, to take a name as a very distinct individual in history, but the further you go back in time, the more a name was able to mean. The Jewish descendants alive today are still very much Jewish. You are foolish to think so much was recorded and stored on paper, instead of kept alive by tradition. It's true, many Jews today could not know for certain their personal lineage, but through great effort, it may be possible to determine what tribe some people are from. Never forgot that almost all of history was passed along orally. Never take written works to be the limit of what is true.

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>>135717026
One is Christ. The other is anti-Christ. It's not hard.

>>135719463
>>135719552
Yes, well said.

>>135720159
If you're not going to read, than leave. The Jews were the chosen people. It is the Jews who kept the word of God alive from Abraham to Jesus. Jesus was a Jew. It is their histories, their stories, their traditions that make up the foundation of the Christian faith. The word and covenant of God was entrusted to them, because they are a stubborn people. They survived, and survive, because despite their faults (which you find in all peoples), they kept the word. Jesus was the word made flesh. With his death and resurrection, all can be saved, but his life, and the meaning of his works, can only be understood through the lens of Jewish history, and Jewish life at that time.

>>135717026
>entire religion is jewish
>jews kill the main character for opposing jewry
That argument is getting old.

>>135717026
Matthew 21:11

>Jesus Cleanses the Temple
>12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple,
> and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, > 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer;
> but ye have made it a den of thieves.

>>135721219
The Jews are not anti-christ. You have fallen to pride if you think you can identify the anti-christ with any singular features. An anti-christ may come from anywhere, and speak any tongue. Study the fruits of man to know what is in their heart. Among Jews you will find all sorts. Among all people you will find all sorts. To be against Christ is not a trait, but a stance. It requires deliberate action. Just because many people do not follow the word of God does not make them against the word of God. If you think so, then you are prideful and lack charity.

>>135717026
>To christians on /pol/, how do you reconcile that your entire religion is jewish while hating jews?
By the time it hits Europe, it became European. Hell, for a very long time, Christians hated the Jews just as much as they hated Muslims. Perhaps even more.

>>135721465
All the righteous peoples followed Jesus those who didn't were cursed (the jews today) this is true. But the point I don't agree with is that he was a Jew he was technically born the first christian.

>>135721908
It's not too hard to understand. You either accept Christ as your Lord and Savior or you don't.

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>>135717026
>Your entire religion is Jewish

When will fedoras and dirt kissers realize that this claim is nothing but a meme?

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>>135721465
the jews forfeited their title as the chosen people when they denied the divinity of christ. believers in christ are gods chosen people, cuck.

>>135717026
just Jews who continued to follow the rabbinical form of Judaism after Christ came and transferred the title"people of god" to his church. Jews who remained true to Christ and were baptized into the church were good.

Christians are under the new covenant, which means they are saved by the Jesus Christ, and not the law. The Jews still believe the mosaic law making there religion completely different (and wrong).

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What about the other cultures from the world that had no clue about Christianity (example, Japanese) . What happened to them, because how can they be saved if they lacked the knowledge of the bible. Are they just burning in hell or reincarnated until they are a christian? What the hell makes the bible so special compared to the other religions out there. Maybe some people need a book to teach them morality, who knows.

>>135722061
No. You are creating arbitrary and meaningless distinctions. Jesus wasn't a Christian because he was Christ. He was absolutely Jewish though. It is undeniable. As much as he was a man, his mother was Jewish. He was taught as a Jew. He kept Jewish holidays. He dressed as a Jew. He talked as a Jew. His ancestors were Jewish. Everything about him was Jewish. He followed Jewish law. Jesus was Jewish, and if you find that disturbing, you need to discard your pride. The Jews today are no more cursed than any other non-Christian. In some ways, they stand a greater chance than some Christian denominations. You paint in too broad of strokes. It is individuals who are saved or damned. No one is saved but by their own faith, and no one is damned but by their own faults.

>>135722265
It isn't that simple. Do you truly know what it means to accept Christ as your lord and Savior? How do you know the difference between wheat and weed? While the ritual guides the spirit, it is not the ritual that binds but the spirit.

>>135721908
You haven't read the Bible

1 John 2
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

>>135721037
>You are foolish to think so much was recorded and stored on paper, instead of kept alive by tradition.


>Never forgot that almost all of history was passed along orally. Never take written works to be the limit of what is true.

I can smell the stench of a Catholic a mile away now seeing how I'm a former one myself.

>>135722467
You misunderstand what it means when the Jewish people are called the chosen. It is not a signifier of rank, but of role. Regardless of their righteousness (or lack thereof), they are the bearers of the word. God made his covenant first with Noah, then with Abraham, and then with Moses. They kept the word of God, even if they did not follow it. It is the preservation of that Word that is so important. You are prideful and full of hate. You want to sit at the right hand of God, but where is your charity? The first shall be last, and the last shall be first. It is best that you work your talents and fail than that you should bury them. It is better to be the prodigal son than to be the jealous son. Do not remove the speck from your brother's eye until you have removed the log from your own. As you judge, so shall you be judged.

>>135723495
this. unfortunately it is harder to get jews to become christians because their entire culture and religion is literally anti-christ.

at least with muslims they consider Jesus a prophet so its not such a hard ask to convince them to follow Jesus.

>>135723753
You sound jewish.

>>135723780
It is dangerous to take any quote from the bible without context, and without understanding it's meaning. Any who claim to be in the light, but hates a brother or sister is not in the light. Anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them. It's true any who deny God, and deny Christ work against God and work against Christ. In this, they are anti-christ. But THE anti-christ? This has a different implication. Assigning any historic marker to a single group is wrong, not because that group is not against Christ, but because it blinds you to evil outside of that group. In fact, the section you quote is making this warning precisely. John is telling his fellow Christians not to look to signs and portents, not to doubt their faith, but to stand firm in their belief and look the actions of others to know the truth.

>>135724368
this.

jews were chosen to bring forth the messiah. this was a blessing unto abraham to have it come from his descendants (the israelites), because he was a particularly righteous man.

many jews fell into all manner of sin along the way (no surprise there, as i would suspect satan would have been focusing 100% of his time on screwing them up to screw up Gods plan), but of course there were always a righteous remnant to carry the torch.

>>135724081
I am glad that I do not have to announce myself. And you show yourself too, for you read into my words what is not there. God is present in all places at all times. He must be sought everywhere, by everyone, at all times. If you find God, and know it to be God, are you really suggesting that you should not tell other people because it is not recorded in a book? The bible is not the limit of God's word. Rather, it is what is most essential. Through four testaments, we see a broad range of Jesus' life. We also see that not every action was recorded by each. It is also obvious that there is much of Jesus' life and ministry that is not recorded in the gospels. There are many acts of the apostles beyond what is recorded. The bible is simply those things of which we can be certain. While they are not the totality of God's presence on Earth, we have what we need. With the Bible, we can discern any other truth that might become relevant to our daily lives.

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>>135722351
Singular post from thine ID.

>>135717026
Christianity has little to do with today's Judaism.

>>135718325
>kṛṣṇa !!8ulOY0Lj8qr

Ah, that poo in the loo faggot, nice, now I can use my reports on something.

>>135717026
Because I don't actually hate Jews.

>>135717026

Jesus was God's was of saving us from Jewry.

Let me turn it around though. It should probably be noted that almost every single major figure in the atheist movement is Jewish. You could make a compelling argument that atheism is specifically being pushed by Jews in today's society, and they seem to largely be targeting western Christians and only them.

For example, Sam Harris, Chapman Cohen, David Silverman, Michael Newdow, Gregory Epstein, Sherman Wine, Bill Maher, Eric Kaufmann, and of course, Richard Dawkins's mother has a Jewish surname and was stated to have lived in the only Jewish suburb of the city she grew up in. But he hasn't explicitly named her religion.

But that's only a tiny part of the list. We could discuss the Jewish atheists who aren't pushing atheism so much as atheism-enabling political views like Marxism. For example Soklonikov, Trotsky, Deutscher, Lenin, Uritsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev and Sverdlov.

And what about atheist Jewish public entertainers that constantly run down Christianity? We can go ahead and recycle Bill Maher here and also include Jon Leibowitz, Stephen Fry, Woody Allen, Rob Reiner, Daniel Radcliffe, Larry David, David Silverman, and... I'm sure I'm close to the post cap, so rather than just name the rest of Hollywood, you get the point.

PURE COINCIDENCE though.

>>135724844
That's not exactly true. The teachings of Judaism are far closer than the teachings of Islam to the teachings of Christianity. There is actually a movement within contemporary Judaism that is working to spread faith in Christ, through the Jewish tradition. What really makes conversion from Judaism so difficult in these times is the proliferation of atheism within Jewish culture, combined with a great sensitivity towards any threat to their ethnicity. You make a grave mistake when you say "at least they consider Jesus a prophet," because that is the far greater threat. To say Jesus was just a prophet is the same as denying him, except it pretends otherwise so that a false prophet may be believed in his stead! The Jew says Jesus existed, but he was not the messiah. While wrong, it is open faced. It can be argued, and evidence can be presented. The knife in the back is no more deadly than the knife in the front, but it requires far greater vigilance to stop.

>>135725756
>The bible is not the limit of God's word.

(1 Corinthians 4:6) Now, brothers, these things I have transferred so as to apply to myself and A•pol′los for YOUR good, that in our case YOU may learn the [rule]: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,” in order that YOU may not be puffed up individually in favor of the one against the other.

(Matthew 15:3) In reply he said to them: “Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition?

(Titus 1:14) paying no attention to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn themselves away from the truth.

(Revelation 22:18) “I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll;

(Galatians 1:8) However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed.

(1 John 4:3) but every inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist’s [inspired expression] which YOU have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world.

(Deuteronomy 4:2) YOU must not add to the word that I am commanding YOU, neither must YOU take away from it, so as to keep the commandments of Jehovah YOUR God that I am commanding YOU.

(Proverbs 30:6) Add nothing to his words, that he may not reprove you, and that you may not have to be proved a liar.

>>135718325

There's no chance there isn't a Star of David under that Swastika.

>>135717026
i dont ''hate jews''

they're going to hell though

>>135726521
>There is actually a movement within contemporary Judaism that is working to spread faith in Christ, through the Jewish tradition

what does this mean... like the messianic jews?

>>135726607
And yet you ignore the pharisees, who know the entirely of the law, who teach the law, and yet while they follow the law to the letter, they are against the law in spirit. You find what you seek, but you do not seek the truth. You are the very person these verses are warning against. By removing these verses from their context, you are adding to them. Your goal is not to spread the word of God, but to justify your own position. You seek to condemn. You are a hypocrite. If you actually read any of these versus in total you would see how you contradict them gravely. Neither must you take away.

>>135727285
That's precisely who I mean.

>>135727285
There are a lot of Jews that secretly believe in and pray on Christ and cry for Him.

>>135727789
>>135727797
bible says to avoid judaizers

"messianic jews" sounds like judaizers to me...

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>>135717026
Jesus was the anti-Jew

>>135728168
Idk. I've heard it's true within Muslims too (well, I've heard it directly from Muslims). There are secret Christians living amongst them but don't wear it publicly for fear of being ousted or killed by their own people.

>>135728168
Just because it sounds like it to you does not make it so. Messianic Jews do teach that the law of Moses has been fulfilled through Jesus, and that following the mosaic law as such is no longer meaningful beyond an act of tradition that might help one keep their faith, but which imposes no explicit requirements. In reality, it is the opposite of Judaizers. Instead of transforming Christianity into Judaism, they are working to turn Judaism into Christianity.

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>jesus is a good jew

>>135727675
>And yet you ignore the pharisees,

(Matthew 23:5) All the works they do they do to be viewed by men; for they broaden the [scripture-containing] cases that they wear as safeguards, and enlarge the fringes [of their garments].

(Matthew 23:6) They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues,

(Matthew 15:14) LET them be. Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

(Revelation 3:9) Look! I will give those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and yet they are not but are lying—look! I will make them come and do obeisance before your feet and make them know I have loved you.

(Revelation 2:9) ‘I know your tribulation and poverty—but you are rich—and the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.
>who know the entirely of the law, who teach the law,

(Matthew 15:3) In reply he said to them: “Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition?

(Matthew 15:9) It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”

(Mark 7:8) Letting go the commandment of God, YOU hold fast the tradition of men.”


>You find what you seek, but you do not seek the truth.

(John 8:32) and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free.”

(John 14:6) Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

(John 18:37) Therefore Pilate said to him: “Well, then, are you a king?” Jesus answered: “You yourself are saying that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone that is on the side of the truth listens to my voice.”

>>135728789
look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism

this is "judaizers" if ive seen one
symbol is a menorah, demon star, and the fish. not even a cross lol.

>Supersessionism
Historically, Christianity has taught supersessionism (replacement theology), which implies or outright states that Christianity has superseded Judaism, and that the Mosaic Covenant of the Hebrew Bible has been superseded by the New Covenant of Jesus, wherein salvation is brought about by the grace of God, and not by obedience to the Torah.[208] This is generally complemented with the concept of God having transferred the status of "God's people" from the Jews to the Christian Church. Messianic Jews, in varying degrees, challenge both thoughts,[209] and instead believing that although Israel has rejected Jesus, it has not forfeited its status as God's chosen people (Matthew 5:17). Often cited is Romans 11:29: "for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable". The core of supersessionism, in which the Mosaic Covenant is canceled, is less agreed upon. Though the mitzvot may or may not be seen as necessary, most are still followed, especially the keeping of Shabbat and other holy days.

>Messianic Jews, in varying degrees, challenge both thoughts
>Messianic Jews, in varying degrees, challenge both thoughts
>Messianic Jews, in varying degrees, challenge both thoughts

bin it.


>>135728390
then they are just christians

>>135717026
it say to fuck the jews so it feel great

>saged

>>135729080
Judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time, each will receive his praise from God.

Now Brothers and Sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?
When you take one line, alone, and expound a new meaning out of it, you have added to the scriptures for the purpose of inflating yourself, for proving how you are more worthy, how you are set above others. When you remove a line from its context, you act as though these are things you found, not something you received. Do you notice how you put limits on your quotations, and group them together so as to create a new context, whereas I have only quoted in larger chunks, or referenced large passages and parables. You'll also notice we are discussing the bible in English. We are quoting it in English. It was not written in English. If it is the letter that is paramount, and not their meaning, then by what means can you say you are quoting holy scripture? Which translation are you using, and how can you demonstrate that it was divinely inspired?

>>135717026
I'm a cynical asshole, religious only in appearance but they killed Jesus. Even if they were lovable fairies excluding that, it'd be reason enough to hate them perpetually.

>>135729738
A Christian who pretends to be a Muslim denies Christ. Given the circumstances, maybe it is forgivable. I do not know, and I cannot say I would do better in their situation. But still, we are called to better. We are called to never deny our faith, no matter what we are threatened with.

But on Judaizer, you are deeply confused. While it would seem some Messianic Jews are Judaizers, others are clearly not. The concern is not the symbols. The concern is the ideology. The Christmas tree is not a problem Celebrating Christmas near the winter solstice is not a problem. You rely too much on Wikipedia as a source. These descriptions are not adequate, and their prevalence in Christianity is overstated. Furthermore, none of what you've cited demonstrates how it is inherently anti-Christian to live by Mosaic Law. The theological question is different than the practical question. For example, the dietary laws of the Torah are generally considered outmoded by Christians. And yet, additional fasting beyond the required fasts is often recommended, because self-denial and self-control can help us get closer to God. If someone wanted to follow a Kosher diet, it could probably be very beneficial, especially in so much as it could connect someone to their ancestors, helping them to grow in respect for their mother and father, and to grow in their love for God. This would be perfectly licit, so long as the individual attached no broader theological importance to their restraint.

>>135718521
>not following an organized religion = being atheist
Retard detected.
You know you can still believe in god/a creator without subscribing to organized religion right?
Mind blowing I know.

dear jewish op:

the more you poke a bear, the quicker it will rip you apart

you people are going to die

>>135732011
>Believing in a creator God
>Thinking you have a better sense of the nature of the universe than any established religion
Just because you're a coward doesn't stop you from being an atheist.

>>135729738
>then they are just christians
I agree.

Even "Messianic Jews" are just Christians. Only reason they call themselves "Messianic Jews" is to not oust themselves too far from the Jewish community.

I mean, Christ's first followers were Jews. The 12 (well, 11) disciples that actually went out into the world and spread the Word of Christ were themselves ethnic Jews, but they were what we call "Christians" today.

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>>135717513
This 100%

>>135732268
>believing in fairytales written for common folk 2000 years ago and books of fanfiction changed so many times many different versions of the same shit exist.
Wew. Do you deny evolution too? Did Jesus walk on water too? Did Noah build a giant boat that would float despite having the weight of 2 of every animal in existence?
Fucking kek

>>135717026
Because it's not Jewish. It's practically for everyone but Jews. The whole chosen people thing is bs propaganda. What the bible does say is that they will continue to betray God until the very end and will always be lost to humanity.

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>>135728263
Jesus beat the hell outta some kikes!

>>135732702
Yet the bible says Jesus will only return when the Israelites return to their homeland and they rebuild the Jewish temple.

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Extreme mental gymnastics

>>135717026
Not a Christian, but it seems obvious to me. Jews murdered Christ.

>>135731713
>A Christian who pretends to be a Muslim denies Christ. Given the circumstances, maybe it is forgivable. I do not know, and I cannot say I would do better in their situation. But still, we are called to better. We are called to never deny our faith, no matter what we are threatened with.
Is this really true? Is there scripture reference for this? If you were threatened to be killed for not denouncing your Christianity, I know that it is a great honor to die for your faith, and you would basically be received with great honor into Heaven, but does The Bible command you to do so? For some reason, I feel like it does not.

For some reason I am reminded of a part of the scripture (I cannot remember the reference) that says to trust in what the Holy Spirit tells you during times of persecution. Basically it says something like, "Allow the Holy Spirit to enter you and to speak for you," (not a direct quote) which seemed to say, you could potentially denounce your faith if someone was about to kill you for it. There was no definite response to it.

>>135717504
no logic there......

>>135717026
I don't see any problem with Christianity, first because it isn't Jewish at all, and in the second place I don't hate Jews per se, I only hate banking international kikes. Israeli Jews are good people, Bibi even said that Hitler did nothing wrong.

>"Here's a paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox": in anthropological fact, many Christians may have much more Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors.

https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm

>>135732011
>Believing in something like a God, but not a Christian God.
A lot of us Christians started like you. Just give it a few more years, bitch.

>>135717513
His apostles were jews, first christians were jews en masse - they looked at Christ like Ghandi of their time - unarmed peaceful resistance to Roman occupation. Learn your maths, dumb fuck.

>>135733193
My iq isn't low enough to believe in the fiction written to control the masses of 2000 years ago.
Don't forget it was the christfags who thought the earth was at the center of the universe, and put Galileo under house arrest and threatened to execute him if he pursued his idea that the sun was at the center of the solar system.
Sorry pal

we all know that "Crimea", which has been in the News. was in fact called "Chazaria/Khazaria" until the 13th century AD right?

>The Byzantines had become afraid and envious of the Khazars and, in a joint expedition with the Russians, conquered the Crimean portion of Khazaria in 1016. (Crimea was known as "Chazaria" until the 13th century). The Khazarian Jews were scattered throughout what is now Russia and Eastern Europe. Some were taken North where they joined the established Jewish community of Kiev.

https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm

>>135717026
Christianity is the concept of "the chosen people" being opened up to the entirety of mankind. Once Jesus came (and I would argue even before he came), you became a "chosen people" by asking jesus into your heart. To be christian is to be a jew in the old sense.
Jews today however are the continuation of the Pharisees, and not the jews from the old testament religiouswise. Modern jews are ethic hebrews who follow the talmud much more than they do the old testament. Any christian who does not believe this is mistaken. Christians are the true jews in the biblical sense. The modern jews are not our friends and we should no support israel outside of the "Madagascar plan" ie a quarantine zone for heebs.

>>135733411
You sound like me when I was 17 years old.

>Religion is just to control the masses hurr durr

Thinking I was so smart n sheit.

>>135717026
But I don't hate Jews.

>>135719303
>reddit
>not associated with atheists
Fuck you nigger

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>>135723495
>He was absolutely Jewish though
No he wasn't. He was from a HEBREW tribe. Big difference! Besides, what we call jews today are not actually jews anyway. We call them jews because they call themselves jews but they are in fact parisees. And jesus said the were the children of the devil.

http://rense.com/general96/jesusnotjew.html

>>135718198
you lost me at "jews invented economics"

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>>135717026

>Encyclopedia Americana (1985): "Khazar, an ancient Turkic-speaking people who ruled a large and powerful state in the steppes North of the Caucasus Mountains from the 7th century to their demise in the mid-11th century A.D. . . In the 8th Century it's political and religious head . . . as well as the greater part of the Khazar nobility, abandoned paganism and converted to Judaism. . ."

>Encyclopedia Britannica (15th edition): "Khazars, confederation of Turkic and Iranian tribes that established a major commercial empire in the second half of the 6th century, covering the southeastern section of modern European Russia . . . In the middle of the 8th century the ruling classes adopted Judaism as their religion."

>Academic American Encyclopedia (1985): "Ashkenazim, the Ashkenazim are one of the two major divisions of the Jews, the other being the Shephardim."

>Encyclopedia Americana (1985): "Ashkenazim, the Ashkenazim are the Jews whose ancestors lived in German lands . . . it was among Ashkenazi Jews that the idea of political Zionism emerged, leading ultimately to the establishment of the state of Israel . . . In the late 1960s, Ashkenazi Jews numbered some 11 million, about 84 percent of the world Jewish population."

>The Jewish Encyclopedia: "Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania."

>>135733797
Literally is called Rabbi in the bible calls the temple his father's house, said you have to keep every word of the law and said first he came to teach the Jews before the Goyim because you don't throw the leftovers to the dogs first.

>>135733956
Lol even David Duke debunks the Khazar theory you fucking nerd.

>>135717026
I've had arguments with many an autistic on this board for exactly the same question, basically they just mind fuck themselves into thinking the jews back then weren't like the jews now and quote the synagogue of Satan passage over and over again, also the one about Jesus flipping some gambling tables over. That's their reasoning. I've never seen another defense it's literally these three things.

>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia:
The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and Germans. This may be due to the fact that the home of the ancient ancestors of the Germans is Media, which is the Biblical Ashkenaz . . . Krauss is of the opinion that in the early medieval ages the Khazars were sometimes referred to as Ashkenazim . . . About 92 percent of all Jews or approximately 14,500,000 are Ashkenazim.

The Bible relates that the Khazars (Ashkenaz) Jews were/are the sons of Japheth not Shem: "Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth; . . . the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz . . ." So the Bible verifies that the Ashkenaz Jews [Khazars] are not the descendants of Shem and cannot be Semitic.

>>135732452
they are supposed to call themselves christian though

"you will be hated for my names sake"

>acts 11:26
"And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."

>And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

>>135717026
>t. never read the bible

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>>135724844
>at least with muslims they consider Jesus a prophet so its not such a hard ask to convince them to follow Jesus.

I guess you don't know so I'll tell you. the do follow Jesus. Allah simply means GOD. It's not some other God. Allah is God that's what it means. Jesus is their messiah just like Christians. Christians have more in common with Muslims than with jews. That whole judeo-Christian thing is just a psyop to make normies think these people are just like us.

>>135717026
Because the Jews killed Jesus after rejecting him and then they blame the Romans. Christianity is not Jewish, so there. You just got a red pill administered through a suppository right there son.

>>135734041
idgaf what icke says. the jews themselves in their own godam encyclopedias say they are Khazars. get out of here with your bs.

>There are many, many publications we could quote but from the above, we can clearly see that the Jews fully understand their Khazarian heritage as the third edition of The Jewish Encyclopedia for 1925 records: "CHAZARS [Khazars]: A people of Turkish origin whose life and history are interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews of Russia. The kingdom of the Chazars was firmly established in most of South Russia long before the foundation of the Russian monarchy by the Varangians (855). Jews have lived on the shores of the Black and Caspian seas since the first centuries of the common era [after the death of Christ]. Historical evidence points to the region of the Ural as the home of the Chazars. Among the classical writers of the Middle Ages they were known as the 'Chozars,' 'Khazirs,' 'Akatzirs,' and 'Akatirs,' and in the Russian chronicles as 'Khwalisses' and 'Ugry Byelyye.'. . ."

The Antiquities of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, XIII ix 1; XV vii 9 instructs us: John Hyrcanus forcibly assimilated the Edomites as a national group and they became "Jews" in about 120BC. The Jewish historian Josephus, who lived just after the time of Christ, wrote, "They [Edom] were hereafter no other than Jews'. The Jewish scholar Cecil Roth in his Concise Jewish Encyclopedia (1980) says on page 154, "John Hyrcanus forcibly converted [Edom] to Judaism. From then on they were part of the Jewish people. In the Talmud the name of Edom was applied to Christian Rome, and was then used for Christianity in general".

>>135733459
Byzantines : richest city on Earth till then , 'envious of Khazar' mongolry, haah
nice one

>>135734710
WHY they conquered is irrelevant. Stop deflecting. The point is that Crimea used to be literally called "Khazaria". Khazaria isn't some made up fictional psy op, to create disinfo, it is a real factual place in time, and the Khazars are a real formidable group of people, who make up almost all of today's "Jewish" population.

>That the Khazars are the lineal ancestors of Eastern European Jewry is a historical fact. Jewish historians and religious textbooks acknowledge the fact, though the propagandists of Jewish nationalism belittle it as pro-Arab propaganda. Somewhat ironically, Volume IV of the Jewish Encyclopaedia - because this publication spells Khazars with a "C" instead of a "K" - is titled "Chazars to Dreyfus": and it was the Dreyfus trial, as interpreted by Theodor Herzl, that made the modern Jewish Khazars of Russia forget their descent from converts to Judaism and accept anti-Semitism as proof of their Palestinian origin.

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>>135722467
What this Anon says!

How can jews be God's chosen people when they killed his son? It's really that simple.

>>135735140
mongols are of the devil they have all the signs , and them becoming 'jews' explains the state of judaism today , yet having already adopted the satanic babylonian talmud in the middle east , it appears the jews were set to get lost from above

The Bible Distinction between "The House of Israel" and "The House of Judah"—to emphasize the distinction between Israel and Judah. Since the word "Jew" was created in the 17th century and introduced into your Bible in the 18th century, replacing two different words, the meaning of this new word has itself been changed. Thus Brother Bosworth conflates "Jews" with the descendants of Judah and some imagine Brother Branham believed Jews were Israelites and Judahites, but those with anointed eyes will discern the 'logos' from the 'rhema' as they have between Matthew 28:19 and Acts 3:38. With this in mind you can discriminate by the Holy Spirit as you read this intact teaching.

For almost a century the Zionist-funded Scofield Reference Bible has influenced careless Christians to suppose Jews to be Israelites, when nothing could be further from Bible truth. This error pervades the circle of this Message as it has become the common understanding. Brother Bosworth, Brother Branham and many ministers use the word Jew in connection with the descendants of Judah when it properly means a resident of Judea. Every Amalekite, Chinese and Muslim resident in Judea is a Jew, just as every Frenchman, Negro or Hindoo resident in New Zealand is a New Zealander. The word defines residency, not religion or race. God made no covenant with any Jew, but with Israelites from the House of Israel and the House of Judah who were of the Hebrew race and the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

>>135734380
>I identify as transfascist
>Christianity is not Jewish
Who would have guessed, an obvious disinfo poster

>>135735167
Some Jews rejected Jesus, many other Jews followed him. All apostles were Jews by origin, for one. Saint Paul was a Jew who at first persecuted Christians ferociously until Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus and he converted.

>>135735704
we will make the Natsocs Orthodox and have a full Eurowhite alignement

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>>135735167
well gawd is omnipotent, so he obviously chose them to do the deed, duh?
jews wrote every mainstream 'bible' control system that exists

>>135735167
jews didnt reject Jesus, israelites did, have you read all the curses from the ot for the israelites? zionist are those, Jesus was a judean

>>135734276
I just don't know if they have to because I understand it's much harder for them to do so. Realize that it's comparatively easier for us to call ourselves Christian than for a Muslim who will surely be put to death.

>>135735167
"Chosen People" doesn't quite mean what most think it means. God has never been slow to punish the Jew. And Jews were never wholly good, The Bible has more examples of bad Jews than good Jews. Only a few are of exemplary character, like Abraham, Moses, and David, and even they were not perfect figures.

>>135717026
Once the jews have their world, the shoah will come and they have nowhere to run.
The revolution will eat its children; yet the Church and Logos will have their child.

>>135717026
Christianity is Gods revival of the Torah Judaism which was fucked by Talmudic Rabbinic Judaism (Pharisees)

Talmudic Judaism = Satan

https://youtu.be/ZA-JCLYeDro

>>135733975
>said first he came to teach the Jews before the Goyim because you don't throw the leftovers to the dogs first
Canaanite was the only one to receive this test.
It's like a swede would come to me, asking for coffee.

>>135738315
im not talking about christians in muslim countries im talking about messianic jews calling themselves messianic jews instead of christians

obviously a christian in muslimland calls himself a christian even if he does not pronounce it