>480000 tobacco deaths per year >88000 alcohol deaths per

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>>135686967
It is true that it being a schedule 1 drug is utterly laughable. At this point everybody has a decent idea of the real effects of marijuana, and having the state tell us that it's essentially as bad as heroin is so ridiculous that it undermines the entire drug policy.

That said, it's still fucking degenerate.

It's schedule 1 because weed cucks big pharma hard. No point in paying for prescription pills when most of your ailments can be cure by a weed grown in your backyard.

It's always about money, never forget that.

>>135687265
>That said, it's still fucking degenerate
But then so is alcohol and cigarettes

>>135686967
Wasteful nigger.

>>135687695
No one said they're not.

When someone says weed is degenerate, it's not an argument to then state "but so is _____!"

>>135686967
The weak must be culled off, if you are too lazy to put just as much effort into cleansing your body as ingesting intoxicants you don't deserve a well taken care of body
Smoking marijuana is unhealthy and when the data ceases to be skewed from lack of knowledge we'll find it isn't much different than tobacco.
Exercise, stretch, eat healthy, and fully relax when you can

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>>135686967
As a stoner on his tolerance break, can comfirm that weed and getting high lowers ambition and intellect. Evrn when I know im being a sack of shit wasting time smoking weed and playing vidya I continue to smoke. Fucking hate getting stonef stoners are pure degenerates

>>135688049
The reason to bring those up is they're legal while weed, the least harmful of the three, is not
You can't advocate for weed being illegal while also being fine with the other two

basic, reddit argument

actually take a bold stand

cocaine and heroin legal tomorrow.

put the heroin business in the hands of white people. put nigger gangs out of business. destroy the culture of thug niggers all at once.

>>135688328
Same here, the liberals make us look bad

t. A damn Leaf...

>>135686967
/pol/ is either insanely brainwashed on this issue, or paid (((big pharma))) shills are on this board.

>>135688328
>Pakistan
>Thinks it's weed lowering your ambition and intellect
Top kek

>>135688435
Yes, legalize all drugs and treat addiction as a public health issue, but pharmaceutical companies hire shady people to sell their overstock or second-rate product to the streets or third-world countries, it's a huge business, I'm sure more factions have a hand in America's drug war, DEA, organized criminals, etc., why end a lucrative business just because it's fueled by blood and pain? Amoral bastards in babylon.

>>135686967
Weed is dangerous. Just a warning

styxnhammer666 really let himself go.

It kills your ambition.

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>>135688378
The point is that it's degenerate and stupid. Make weed and cocaine and heroin all legal I don't care. It won't change the fact that stones and tweakers and drunks are all the same kind of degenerate; persons without willpower or pride.

Weed is for retards.

>>135686967
It fucks up your lungs just like cigarettes only differences is ppl don't smoke weed 20 times a day.

>>135688874
Problem with legalization and treating it as a health issue is that it removes the teeth of the government to act. If it's legal, the government cannot compel people to seek help, they would have to seek it themselves (similarly to how people with mental health problems must voluntarily seek help, a big cause of current homelessness). I would favor legalization of marijuana and decriminalization of harder drugs.

Weed is cool until inevitably you start smoking massive amounts of it all the time.

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>>135686967
>ZERO cannabis deaths per year

You forgot about the white death friend.
My first whitey I was sat there, minding my own, when the back of my head unhinged like a hobbits front door & activated orgone began flowing as if I was temporarily the source of the Nile.
1993 it was. Michelle was a bit lanky with waist length blond hair & an ordinary tier horse fixation for a rich bird.
She fucked off to Equestrian college that year & the gang all went their own ways. Never saw her again.

>>135686967
Sessions wants to link violence with Cannabis. This will get Drug War 2.0 going.

>>135687377
checking cause its true

>>135686967
>>ZERO cannabis death per year

may i have a source for that statement?

>>135687377
cucks lumber, oil, plastics, and pharma
double posted sry

>>135686967
Stop posting this disgusting-looking, asexual weirdo.

>>135689823
FDA

>>135686967
Pot may be "harmless" but the people who smoke it especially everyday are useless, lazy and have to motivation to improve themselves.
Source: ex-pothead

>>135689511
America should operate with only the regulations that necessitate function, granted you make a good point that a "hands off" approach would work about as well as it does with mental health (as in, not at all), but I believe if the law enforcement and medical agencies approach it as cooperating with victims rather than fighting with criminals more people will be healthy. Ideally it would be treated like having the flu, if you saw that a family member was sick you might recommend they take medication or go to the hospital, but since drugs are such a huge taboo it takes a huge amount of effort to accuse and act upon the problem and by the time you let it get so bad that you HAVE to do something it's too late
Portugal decriminalized all drugs as you said and they have some of the lowest addiction rates in the world.

>>135687695
Of course alcohol and cigarettes are degenerate, they are for manlets to make themself feel better

>>135689823
The estimated LD-50 (lethal threshold) for marijuana,established in 1988 by the DEA’s appropriate fact-finder, is 1:20,000 or 1:40,000.

Quote:

“At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.

cannabis-science.com/content/DEA%20Ruling%20Judge%20Young.pdf

>>135686967
I knew this german that got high on weed and got arrested for raping a 9yo and 12yo girls. He always got high and raped the girls for like 2 years.

Weed makes u a weak dick weirdo.

Weed doesnt kill someone directly but can trigger psychosis, anxiety disorder or depression, wich can lead to suicide.
To prevent physical damage from smoking you can consume thc in several other forms (eating, vaping etc.)

>>135690328
The raping is probably related to being muslim, not Weed.

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>>135690267

>>135686967

In 2014, a reported 926,240 abortions took place in the United States

>>135690475
This is the biggest conundrum for me because on one hand all those things you listed are bad, but on the other hand what if they were always there inside the person but he couldn't recognize those feelings until his perception was altered? Kind of like how I got injured in my shoulder but didn't really feel it until years later when I started working out again

Dabbing and 2000mg prepackaged edibles are the cancer of the marijuana industry.

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>>135686967
>get high on dude weed lmao
>crash car
>not related to dude weed lmao
Stop pushing this bullshit please, there are deaths related to pot all the fucking time.
this is why people hate you, you think its a cure all drug and can cure cancer.

>>135690073
for what i read, Legal prescription drugs statistically kill 100,000 people a year and some of those drugs are cannabis, so it's possible that at least someone died from cannabis. and also it seems that deaths contributed by cannabis between 1/1/97 - 6/30/05 where 279. far higher than 0 per year.

>http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000145
>http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/16/gary-johnson/gary-johnson-claims-marijuana-cant-kill-and-prescr/

>>135686967
I wonder what his parents think if they see this. How vile and sad.

>>135690793
Archived it for you
https://archive.is/qWRbB

>>135690841
thanks norway

>>135686967

its being promoted by niggers, libtards and hollywood so it must be a bad thing

>>135688328
You're high right now aren't you?

Not true. Cannabis users are mostly brain dead.

DUDE MY TOLERANCE IS SO HIGH I HAVE TO SMOKE A GRAM OF WAX TO THE FACE TO FEEL ANYTHING LMAO

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>>135686967
Many Americans are too drugged-out to work

https://www.axios.com/many-americans-are-too-drugged-out-to-work-2467304330.html

A slew of reports finds a fresh reason for the chronic inability of American companies to fill skilled jobs: not a lack of skills, and hence a training-and-education crisis, but a surfeit of drug abuse. Simply put, prime-working age Americans without a college diploma are often too drugged-out to get the best jobs. Opioids remain at high levels, but the surge in drug use is now heroin and the powerful contaminant fentanyl.

The reports suggest a circularity to the crisis in America's rust and manufacturing belts: the loss of jobs and wage stagnation has led to widespread disaffection, alienation and drug abuse; and drug abuse has led to joblessness, hopelessness and disaffection.

How many of you stoners even work or are productive to society?
>knowing the answer because you can't get stoned and have any social construct.

>>135686967
>not inhaling
fuck that is so stupid it is frustrating

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Soon I hope, I'm tired of getting banned from most boards for rapid shitposting every time I get high.

Why the fuck do people even fucking care about this. Why do people need new ways to be intoxicated. Dont they care about anything else?

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>>135689913
>cucks lumber

>harvest weed
>be a gardener
>harvest lumber
>off-road heavy duty machinery 11 hours a day

>>135687377
It was also about "punishing" hippies for their anti-war effort.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/

>>135692087
Always archive
https://archive.is/bzTCs

>>135686967
the nigga does not hold the smoke on the lungs?

>>135686967
Niggerfaggot

>>135687377
http://fortune.com/2016/12/08/insys-execs-charged-bribing-doctors-fentanyl/
>company makes fentanyl
>implicated in a scheme last year where doctors were rewarded for over-prescribing powerful opiates to patients that didn't need them, admist a growing opiate abuse crisis
>spends half a million lobbying to keep marijana illegal last year
>gets DEA backing to make synthetic marijuana earlier this year
big pharma cucks us all

>>135690748
those people are bad drivers to begin with. One needs to be a literal fucking retard to be bad at driving yet there are so many of them it boggles my mind and pisses me off to no end

>>135686967
"Goyim, legalize marijuana so we can we make your people forget about us while we rape your country."

>>135686967
Cannabis doesn't kill but makes you extremely stupid.

Tobacco and Alcohol should be banned. They're degenerate.

>>135686967
It's the slow knife that cuts the deepest

Weed makes you content and complacent

That's makes it the perfect tool to pacify you

>>135688113
I swear a nice big stretch after a back workout is orgasmic

>>135686967

The biggest kicker for me is how my father calls me a junkie drug-addict because I use MJ as medicine and don't partake in pharmaceutical drugs or cigs or alcohol while he does the latter three. Can't wait for that fucking boomer fag to hit the bucket and be on his way out of here

legalize all drugs!

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>>135689552
>the back of my head unhinged like a hobbits front door & activated orgone began flowing as if I was temporarily the source of the Nile
uh, I don't think that was pot you were smoking.
but if so, strain??

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>>135692139
You don't need to take huge rips and hold it in for very long to get the full effects. Holding in smoke just gives you a bit of a rush due to oxygen deprivation, THC absorbs in the lungs rather quickly.

>>135689552
... wha

>>135686967
something promoted by jews, niggers, communists, and hollywood, yet they claim 0 deaths and your mongoloid potato brain believes this?
I bet you hate capitalism too yet are happy as hell to have your dope stores now in select states.
Don't forget your sex change goyim. Free with every bonghit!

It's doubtful to be zero. Marijuana impairs driving ability thus may be a contributory factor to vehicle fatalities.

>>135688010
Not an argument

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>>135690267
So the 480000 tobacco deaths per year are from lethal dose of tobacco?
No it's from cancer. Which will be present in marijuana consumed by smoke or vaping, or in partly refined oils.

If you want to make a fact based argument for something at least be honest with your facts.

>>135693051
haha what a story Mark

>>135692909
Shouldn't you be sleeping, child?

>>135688328

Obama detected

>>135692564
>Weed makes you content and complacent
jeah and thats exactly why its illegal right ? its not like alcohol directly kills of your braincells or so...

if weed had some serius bad sideeffects it would be legal for sure

>>135687265
>It is true that it being a schedule 1 drug is utterly laughable.
it just makes it cost more

>>135686967
You keep making this thread, and each time the people you post look more oven worthy than the last

OP, you're a faggot

>>135692909
>Can't wait for that fucking boomer fag to hit the bucket and be on his way out of here
he'll be gone by 65, a few smokers last up to 72 but rarely over that

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cannabis is far more dangerous than these two combined.

the real reason they ban marijuana is not because of muh driving and muh spiritual awakening. there are studies conducted that show cannabis lowers motivation by a drastic amount. it can literally kill your desire to pursue academic profession or child bearing.
this is not a joke, its just that the government post other shit about weed because people won't listen or accept this argument

>>135686967
actually there was 2 million weed induced deaths last year

>>135693081
>Marijuana impairs driving ability thus may be a contributory factor to vehicle fatalities.

AJ Foyt said he couldn't race while stoned, wasn't able to take the risks necessary to win races while high, big risks in everyone driving stoned at 40 miles an hour though, that shit sucks

>>135693163
>So the 480000 tobacco deaths per year are from lethal dose of tobacco?
>No it's from cancer. Which will be present in marijuana consumed by smoke or vaping, or in partly refined oils.
no cesium bonds with wide leafed tobacco, thats why it's guaranteed to cause lung cancer in pretty much everybody who uses it

>>135686967
>death is worse than psychosis

I'll take death from alcohol and tobacco any day.

>>135693655
>there are studies conducted that show cannabis lowers motivation by a drastic amount.
thats bullshit they keep it illegal to protect the petroleum business and fuck over niggers, also to grift off laundering the money generated

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>>135688113

>the weak must be culled off

Yes, lets put the kikes in charge of the standards and rules by which this little game of "Social Darwinism" plays out, that sure has been working out great for the white man, hasn't it? Everything for the greater good of society goy, now get back to work so we jews can garnish your wages to pay for Taneesha to take her baby to the ER for the 18th time this year because she fed it too many flaming hot cheetos.

Literally reading this high right now. I love you lads.

>>135686967
If you count braincells then its a million deaths for each hit of the bong. But keep telling yoruself its cool tho.

>>135686967
Usually, when people die, they stop being so obnoxious.

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>>135694051
>If you count braincells then its a million deaths for each hit of the bong.
what about nonsmokers who eat hashish? please tell me how many braincells? I need to know

>>135688049

it's to point out the inequality of how all 3 vices are treated by law. Why are these 2 legal when they're so much more dangerous than this illegal one?

>>135693841
>fuck over niggers
Number one reason why it should stay illegal

>>135693442
100%

Weed is degenerate.

Many, if not most, weed sycophants have tats, shitty jobs, unhealthy eating habits and a self-centered world view. As a result, they have no motivation to make themselves better. It's literally a drug consumed by people stuck between childhood and adulthood.

Weed is a crutch for irresponsible dumbfucks.

>>135694276
>Number one reason why it should stay illegal
nah we tried that and it just led to sloppy police work, we need to change the justice system so that violent crime = lengthy prison stay

right now it's the opposite, they keep drug morons forever and let murderers out after 5 years

>>135693841
its not bullshit. iv done weed for 5 years and i know it.

most people whom are heavy smokers are wagecucks jobs and they don't pursue any hobbies other than watching movies and eating.
the government just doesn't know how to explain this phenomena to people because we can't contain ambition into science or numbers

>>135686967
Christ, when did smoking weed get so complicated? Does that wax contraption have a USB port?

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>>135694365
>Many, if not most, weed sycophants have tats, shitty jobs, unhealthy eating habits and a self-centered world view.
it's true I have proof

>>135686967
He barely inhaling it, and as soon as he takes bong rip he blows it back out? Amateur! This is one of those cases a nigger is needed on how to use a bong properly.

>>135694413
>most people whom are heavy smokers are wagecucks jobs and they don't pursue any hobbies other than watching movies and eating.
thats just the people you know

>>135694413
>the government just doesn't know how to explain this phenomena to people because we can't contain ambition into science or numbers
I am part of the government and I can assure you all the reasons are financial and psychological

>>135694428
looks like it is electrically heated which is smart.

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>>135692909
>t. got grounded and dad took away my fidget spinner

>>135688113
I would love to see your stats, fatty.

>>135694413
government doesn't know how to explain... no it just doesn't want to explain that it has been killing and imprisoning decent people for drug money.

>>135694575
pretty sure the highest scoring students in any field or occupation are not weed smokers

>>135686967
I would do anything not to look like that...guy?
Your point about sustaining the corporial form of...that thing... is not relevant

>>135694812
Obama, Clinton, Bushes never smoked weed bru

>>135687695
That's right you fucking moron.

Why do you say that like it's an argument?

>>135694878
they experimented with weed. they didn't fuckin chug it like bob marley

>>135694232
The same, or more. if you ingest this shit your braincells die dumbcunt

>>135695002
and michael phelps?

>>135694276

the people lumping all weedsmokers with niggers is cringe. you guys will turn anything into a racial issue even when it is completely unrelated

on a side note, is kratom also degenerate? probably. but it's cheaper than weed and it puts me in a productive mood

>>135687377
checkin this for absolute truth.
allowing citizenry to fix their own problems is not what those in charge want. cant even fix your own phone without ruining the warranty. you want your furnace fixed? good luck, it's illegal to open your meter. and on and on and on.

>>135694276
And it cost white people billions of dollars to enforce and provided a source of income to gangs which forces whites to flee the cities they built unless they want their daughters racemixing in the middle of the street with Tyrone Jr. at 3AM under a hail of gunfire while the 3 year old your daughter had with Tyreese sells meth on the street corner

the war on drugs is only pro-white if you forget every single downstream consequence that enabled nogs to wander into the inner cities like violent apezombies and turn them into warzones like basically every African country. and then racemixing with stupid/naive white roasties who live in the suburbs. that wouldn't have happened if nogs, incapable of civility, didn't have an extremely powerful economic fuel for their primitive tribal turfwars

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Oh yeah, I forgot that weed is the one thing in existence with only good sides and no down sides.

>le puff puff pass xD weed is the best xD next to spongebob and food stamps of course xDDD

All of you edgy faggots need to be tortured and publicly executed.

>>135694142
I grind my teeth at night and I also wear chuck taylors

how did this image know

help

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>>135686967
Tobacco does not cause cancer. Scientists have never been able to induce it in any experimental setting, even recent studies in the early 2000s failed to induce cancer.

The only downside to tobacco smoking is the filters which are comprised of inorganic cellulose acetate fibres which the body cannot break down which will result in COPD with prolonged use.

>>135695444
cmon I got trips someone tell me what this image is trying to imply about night time teeth grinding

>>135695307
You're a fucking normie.

>>135687377
>when most of your ailments
proof ?

>>135694413
>most people whom are heavy smokers are wagecucks jobs and they don't pursue any hobbies other than watching movies and eating.
>me and all my friends are lazy losers as you may have been able to tell by my choice of LARP flag

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>>135695588
tell them to stop eating the damn filters then

>>135686967
>480000 tobacco deaths per year
>88000 alcohol deaths per year
>ZERO cannabis deaths per year

"when will people wake up to the absurdity of cannabis being a schedule 1 controlled substance when alcohol and tobacco are FAR more dangerous?"

Its Probably because weed is illegal basically in every country and there aren't like 1 Billion people smoking it every day

>>135690650
>but he couldn't recognize those feelings until his perception was altered
That is some grade S bullshit. Weed doenst make you superhuman.

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>>135695307
>All of you edgy faggots need to be tortured and publicly executed.

>calls people edgy faggots
>proceeds to make an absurdly edgelord post with a fucking pepe

>>135695982

>t. has never left his parents basement

>>135687695
Just before you came the thread was decent.

>>135695588
Bro research more youll find multiple studies that compare cancer rate graphs with smoking.You will see there is a correlation between them and therefore it can be deduced that tobacco causes cancer which leads to death.

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>>135686967
> I only count by zero cannabis deaths
> I don't count the deaths by DUI that are caused by weed but still go down as DUI with a blanket term meaning alcohol

This is like how Mexicans committing crimes were documented as white. You are just being an idiot trying to make excuses for some shit addiction that has control of you.

>>135686967
>ZERO cannabis deaths per year
seems unlikely

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>>135696076
fuck off I like pepe

it's fine to smoke pot as long as you recognize it as a degenerate activity

>>135696399
THC is non-toxic.

>>135694267
Because weed promotes unity, and a sense of unity is a ticket to the world of meditation and realizing that the way we live and the powers in charge are evil as sin. Weed promotes cooperation, and cooperation is verboten -- you must compete, not cooperate. If you cooperate, you might actually get somewhere and stop being a slave for the powers in charge.

It's not difficult in the slightest to understand why weed is forbidden. What's difficult is developing the intellectual understanding to see past the simple answers normally handed out and see the real occulted truth behind it.

>>135690221
sounds like someone is insecure

>>135696076
I mean exactly what I said, you stupid nigger.

We should treat you ugly subhuman stoners like child rapists.

And don't talk shit about my pic when that's yours.

>>135688328
how long of a break are you taking?

>>135695726
it's great for insomnia, eating disorders, nausea, pain from pretty much anything, drug withdrawals, etc.

i've used it for all of these things at various points and it's literally not hard to go find out for yourself. buy a gram of weed and smoke a one-hitter the next time you can't sleep. you'll be able to sleep.

>>135696560
no it isn't fine, you go to jail if you get caught son. It fine to drink and get fucking wasted with alcohol though :)

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>>135696251
>Bro research more youll find multiple studies that compare cancer rate graphs with smoking

These entirely consist of epidemiological studies drawing from non-randomized populations. In other words, worthless. Especially worthless compared to hard experimental studies, which as previously stated, have never been able to induce cancer via tobacco smoke.

>You will see there is a correlation between them and therefore it can be deduced that tobacco causes cancer which leads to death.

This simplistic reasoning is bad science and shows that you don't even know what you are talking about. Correlation does not imply causation. Furthermore, if you look at smokers from other groups, e.g., Japan, the same epidemiological associations do not exist.

>>135696594
yeah but lung cancer is

>>135696594

>DUIs
>Munchies (Heart Disease)
>Loss of Ambition (No Exercise)
>Child Abuse (Ignoring Kids)
>Negative Effect on Income (Limits Employment Opportunities)

But man, it's a miracle fuckin' drug, Weed Bro'.

>>135696842
you don't have to smoke to get high though. You can eat it

>>135696644
>being this edgy

calm down there son

>>135686967
the cannabis death is the death of future generations.

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Both the PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX and MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX say "NOOOOOOOOOO".

>>135696955
all of those are results of the person not the drug

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>>135686967
Kill yourself, subhuman.

>>135695609
it was written by a hipster

they take anything that's even slightly normal, then talk shit about it. after they're finished talking shit about it, they draw bad mostly-text cartoons in baby-tier pencil aesthetic because they lack any real talent but feel like their insight is cool/unique

>>135696955
>don't drive when high
>self discipline
>self discipline
>Not everyone has kids
>make better laws


I love weed, it makes me feel good

20 lashes and mandatory labour detox camp for weed addicts.

Death by hanging to sellers and growers.

No room for degeneracy in the 4th Reich.

>>135697175
What wrong with it then

>>135697039
>he says with that flag

>>135697333
>wasting so much time an effort on weed

you know things like crack and heroin exist right?

>>135697252
isn't the image hating on hipsters? It even makes fun of their stupid mustaches and jeans and shoes

>>135696644
i bet you're so edgy in real life that you talk like this to people other than maybe one or two other pasty-faced faggots who mutually masterbate on some shit-tier /pol/ discord voice chat

>>135697492
>caring this much about a stupid meme flag

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>>135697607
That's one hell of a projection.

Fortunately I can barely visualize what you just said.

>>135697609
Then drop the flag, you brown motherfucker.

Smoking weed is degenerate. Still, better legalize it so drug cartels won't get any money selling it.

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>>135697792
I visualize it fine, but I have no clue what a shit-tier /pol/ discord is compared to a premier-tier /pol discord?

>>135697792
i probably overestimated your social circle

>>135697792
>>135697934
>he has a flag i dont like so im gonna call him brown

there is a point when you have to stop being edgy

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>>135698120
That isn't how you troll, you put too much effort and made yourself look stupid

>>135697789
>zozzle
can you take this shit to /b/ you underaged faggot

>>135698485
/b is for adults

>>135698540
/b/ should not exist. The IP range of anyone who has ever posted there should be banned from this website entirely.

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>>135689544
Absolutely this

>>135696615

Dude, it's pretentious talk like that, that makes people WANT to keep it illegal, just to spite stupid ass hippies like you.
If you up and admitted most the time you got stoned you got up, ate a sandwich, then crashed your ass on the couch and watched movies or played video games for 2 or 3 hours and then took a nap for 2-3 hours, people would be able to relate to you more and would understand, yeah, you know you're just getting fucked up and killing time, but who DOESN'T want to do that once or twice a week in your free time? Yeah it can give you some psychedelic thoughts and concepts like unity and world peace, but you're not actually doing anything to advance those causes. You're just wasted and thinking about them.
It's like the medical side.. you can get people to accept weed has medicinal value in some niche illnesses, it can be a replacement pain reliever in place of opioids in some cases.. people can sympathize with that.
But people just want to spite the guys who say "DUDE WEED CURES CANCER AND ALZHEIMERS

>>135698328

trolling and calling out bad/stupid posters is not the same thing

>>135697513
Needless to say. Crack, meth, heroin suppliers and dealers will die by public hanging.

That's how China rid itself of the world's highest opium addiction and now has 50% less HIV than the west and a fraction of the drug problem.

>>135698793
How so? seriously what is wrong with /b

>>135686967
Who cares about deaths per year.
Im sure there are thousands of motorcycle deaths or other hobbies too.

Its about the level of degeneracy. It completely ruins their motivation in life and turns them into a nigger tier state.

I high achieving man does not need a fucking leaf to feel good and relax, he needs to channel that stress into becoming great and achieving things.

>>135686967
weed is dumb but should be legal.

>>135686967
I don't understand the appeal, it just robs you of all your intellect and faculties for about 1:45.

>>135699481
why would you want to emulate a bunch of soulless chinks? china is also one of the leading suppliers of opium along with afghanistan

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>>135699838
not for me, it makes me more creative. Studies show it helps both sides of brain communicate. I find it easier to do math when I am high.

i hate everyone here

>>135699838
actually you're a lot less sloppy than drinking alcohol. Alcohol can get you so wasted you can't even get to your bed before passing out, and even before then you're stumbling everywhere sloppily. Weed you'll still function..... "you ain't crisp..... but you'll function"

Passing out on weed is nothing to worry about, they'd have had to have smoked a hell of a lot more before it'd be physically dangerous to them, they'll sleep it off.

Passing out on alcohol.. there's legit worry of choking to death on vomit or simply going into respiratory arrest from alcohol poisoning. Alcohol starts off milder, but a really stoned person will be more functional than a really drunk person.

>>135686967
how many times a week to you plan to make this exact same fucking thread

>>135687695
>But then so is alcohol and cigarettes
Yes, also soda and junk food

>>135687377
No
Weed is genuinely dangerous. Its smoke is actually more toxic than tobacco smoke and it can poison children and slow IQ development. The laws regarding weed in the states where it's legal aren't being enforced. DUIs through the roof, use among youth skyrocketed, and worst of all the cartels are exploiting the legal states to sell to children, spread it other states where it's still illegal, and selling it for cheaper prices than the legal alternative so entice medical card holders into buying from them along with kids.
https://publicsafety.utah.gov/2016/02/22/public-safety-concerns-regarding-medical-marijuana/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071217110328.htm
https://www.livescience.com/5298-marijuana-disrupt-brain-development.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/marijuana-poisoning-in-kids-rose-after-recreational-use-legalized-in-colorado/
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/marijuana/mexican-drug-cartels-are-taking-full-advantage-of-colorados-marijuana-laws
https://www.codot.gov/safety/alcohol-and-impaired-driving/druggeddriving
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/health/marijuana-edibles-are-getting-into-colorado-childrens-hands-study-says.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141110161123.htm
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-where-medical-marijuana-is-legal-illegal-use-climbs-2017-4
http://www.ibtimes.com/marijuana-costs-us-how-black-market-retail-medical-pot-prices-compare-1622362
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/cost-of-medical-marijuana-in-minnesota-leads-some-to-return-to-illegal-sources

Christ, how stoned does a single manlet need to be? Does it hurt that much?

>>135700979
No profits today

>https://nytimes com/2016/07/26/health/marijuana-edibles-are-getting-into-colorado-childrens-hands-study-says.html
https://archive.is/Tmo9A
>http://businessinsider com/r-where-medical-marijuana-is-legal-illegal-use-climbs-2017-4
https://archive.is/y9jVF
>https://theguardian com/us-news/2015/sep/20/cost-of-medical-marijuana-in-minnesota-leads-some-to-return-to-illegal-sources
https://archive.is/LXY8l

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>>135686967
Death squads for weed when, it would be funny cause stoners can't defend themselves

>>135688378
Yeah, but when you're arguing with a guy who's argument is "That's degenerate" bringing up other worse things doesn't help your position, it's just other things that the the guy you're arguing with is gonna go "Yeah, I'm for banning those other things too."

In this way, you're not actually presenting a point beyond a concession you inevitably give yourself (Yeah, cigarettes should be banned!), but you don't encourage the person who thinks it is a degenerate substance that they should stop that line of thinking. In this capacity, your argument itself is bad.

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>>135700979
michael savage, that you?

>>135692240

>synthetic marijuana is okay even though it's proven to be far worse than the strongest marijuana ever could be

>kratom is the cure to the opiate epidemic
>DEA keeps trying to ban kratom after a company synthesized the alkaloids in it

How about you dont tell me what i can or cant put in my fuckin body you controlling fucks.

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>>135689552

>>135687377
>No point in paying for prescription pills when most of your ailments can be cure by a weed grown in your backyard.

You know that's bullshit right?

And then this is where some Joe Rogan fan links me 20 different articles about subjective studies showing how weed cures cancer and shit.

You're being lied to. I'm all for making weed legal for recreational purposes (even though I don't smoke), but quit pretending that weed is somehow this magic wonder drug that will suddenly increase your life expectancy.

>>135701120

except Duterte supports medical marijuana and the Phillippines legalized it earlier this year.

>>135693724
>no cesium bonds with wide leafed tobacco, thats why it's guaranteed to cause lung cancer in pretty much everybody who uses it
The volatile organics from partial combustion are a major cause.

>>135701550
Alright, look, I know you don't want a subjective story but I'm gonna give you one anyway. My wife has crohn's disease. Weed works simultaneously as a nausea remover and an appetite inducer.

I cannot begin to stress enough how much of an improvement that made in her life. And you know what works the best? CBD oil that doesn't have the THC chemical in it that gets her high. Allows her to function in society way better than without it, and be a more productive citizen by any metric you could put it.

And it costs me a god damned arm and a leg to get just because it's illegal in my part of the country. It'd be cheaper to get the shit that would get her high, but my wife isn't a degenerate. The CBD oil has worked better than all the other things modern medicine has had to offer thus far. It's worked so well it's knocked her completely into remission, and that's worth the cost... but god, I could be doing so much more if my money could be just going to that legally.

>>135686967
All drug use is degeneracy. Deal with reality you fucking cuckold.

>>135689823
Pointless to ask. There isn't enough testing for THC in situations like car accidents, or houses burning down because someone got high as fuck and a candle sets their tie dye tapestry on fire - and when someone is diagnosed with cancer, they can't say for sure what caused it. My mom was diagnosed with lung cancer, and since she was a heavy smoker it's good odds it's the smoke that caused it - but even her oncologist says, we don't know. It could have been bus exhaust that specifically triggered it, but with heavy smoking in the mix, we can assume it's probably the cause.
I don't care if you smoke pot, I voted to legalize it even though I don't use it, because to me it's like alcohol - use it sensibly, and it's fine. And it does help with some medical issues - we used it with mom for her nausea, and it fucking worked. (Edibles) But I hate it when holier than thou pot heads make claims like "0 deaths", because you can't prove it. We have no way of knowing how many lung cancer patients have it because they smoked pot (smoking anything increases your risks of cancer significantly). We have no idea how many car accidents that are fatal were from pot - or a mixture of pot and other substances. Yes, alcohol and drugs liek meth can make people violent, and pot makes people couch potatoes, but there are a million ways to die, and to say pot isn't among any of them is naive and disingenuous to say the least - you're making a false argument where one isn't needed.
And, if you use THC, vape or edibles. Smoke kills, brah.

>>135686967
Depressants are degenerate
Uppers are the real deal

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>>135701550
>You know that's bullshit right?
No, it's not. Cannabis can literally stop thousands of ailments, either temporarily or even permanently, over time, etc.
>Cluster Headaches
>Seizures
>Muscle Spasms
>Inflammation
>Nausea
>Eating Disorders
>Nerve Issues
>Other Pain
>Panic Attacks
And it is not addictive...

>>135702602
>telling other people what to do in their personal time

stop making us the targets of your victim fantasy. you're like middle management at a company, no real power but needs to justify existence by being a dwight

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>>135702928
>Cannabis is a depressant meme
Spotted the guy who lives in a Cartel Cannabis state...

>>135703052
>implying I give a fuck what a leaf thinks.
I am telling you what to do because clearly if you support degeneracy you don't understand that you don't live in a vacuum and your degenerate decisions are a thorn in the side of the state. Fuck off leaf don't you have some muslim cock to suck somewhere?

>>135693163
You don't inhale cancer cells you incredibly stupid fuck.

Vaping THC or nicotine significantly reduces if not eliminates the threat of cancer from inhalation. THC and nicotine are not carcinogenic, or, for a dumb ass mouthbreather like you, they don't cause cancer. It's the SMOKE that kills you - you can get lung cancer from bus exhaust, car exhaust, being around forest fires, or smoking tobacco or cannabis leaves.

You might want to GET some facts, spastic, your comment had none.

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>>135703235
>if you support degeneracy
If you can't into logic, why do you even bother responding to the thread? You have no reasoning to back up your opinion, just calling people degenerate because you've seen people smoking Mexishit weed and become retarded. You are inexperienced with the world and that's true degeneracy.

>>135692293
>One needs to be a literal fucking retard to be bad at driving yet there are so many of them it boggles my mind and pisses me off to no end
Literal fucking retards are IQ 75 and below. There's actually not so many of them. The real issue is that colloquial fucking retards are pretty much everything below 110. An average 100 is really fucking stupid, when it comes to driving and when it comes to a million other things. And there's a ton of people in the 110 and below category. Just think, a majority of humanity is fucking retards in the colloquial sense.

>>135686967
who is this guy

>>135690793
this is chelsea clinton logic

>>135694365
Nice moralistic little finger you're waving. I have no use for moralism in modern culture, considering the shit politicians and corporations pull, smoking pot is literally nothing.
Also, most of the pot smokers I know are successful, middle class adults with no tats, good jobs, are fit, are raising families, and use pot and alcohol responsibly. Even before pot was legalized here, people were open about using it, in all stratas of society. I guarantee you're surrounded by pot users who aren't in the fake demographic you pulled out of your spinster tight butthole, and you have no clue.

You attacks on pot are a crutch for weak minded idiots like you who have nothing better to do in your pointless life than judge others, when you don't even understand or know the scope or reality of the topic.

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>>135703437
I've been on both sides of this. I smoked weed for years and I've also been clean for years and only a fucking idiot would take the position that weed is a positive thing. I do have reasoning. the reasoning is that potheads are fucking useless. And even if you can manage to contribute to society while smoking pot, there is no getting around the fact that its holding you back from realizing your potential. It's a waste of time and a waste of money. but whatever just be a stoned fucking sheep and let the weed relax you, no need to be mad about anything going on today goy.

>>135702955

Like I said... those studies are all subjective.

Most of those things you mentioned also end up becoming worse when the patient quits cannabis. For example, your eating disorders will become even worse if you suddenly quit smoking. The entire success of the drug relies on the patient to keep doing it in perpetuity, so how is that any different than what "big bad pharma" is doing with pills that actually have proven scientific results?

>>135703753
and?

>>135694812
I'd take that bet. I knew a guy in college who waked and baked, and was Dean's list with a chemistry major. Was recruited by some big German petrochemical company for huge money his senior year, and nobody ever heard from him again, until Facebook became a thing. Now he lives in a fucking mansion in Geneva, working for a company I've never heard of.

>>135702674
>you're making a false argument where one isn't needed.

So much this, I'm so tired of retards spouting shit about pot when all it comes down to is does the government have the right to determine what you as a consenting adult put into their own body.

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>>135703884
>there is no getting around the fact that its holding you back from realizing your potential.

Bullshit, faggot, Cannabis doesn't make you slow or stupid. The stigma against the culture and smell are based in Jewish lies. 1/3rd of everyone you meet are on Adderall, Zoloft, Xanax, etc. If you must police others' choices, go for the REAL degeneracy.
>Adderall causes insanity and a slow paralysis of the Brain's dopamine and seratonin.
>Xanax causes people to become eventually so retarded they can barely speak.
>Zoloft creates a hypersensitivity damaging the brain to where you must continue chemical lobotomization to avoid the painful realization of reality.
These substances and many more are eliminated through use of QUALITY Cannabis. OP posts this fucking thread every day because he is a fag who thinks that World=champion YouTube stoners are a great example of Cannabis use.
There is zero argument in today's society against Cannabis, which does not cause mental degradation or any of the other shit associated with it by people without access to quality product.

>>135703976
>For example, your eating disorders will become even worse if you suddenly quit smoking.
Have you studied appetite medications? That's how all of them are. And no that isn't my experience with Cannabis, I used it to nurse my mind and body back to health after 10 years on Adderall XR. I was in initial Adderall test group from third grade, don't lecture me about perpetual usage problems.

>>135696251
Tobacco SMOKE causes lung cancer, they're pretty sure of it. But like my mom's oncologist said, non-smokers get lung cancer, it can be from car exhaust, or bus exhaust, or any number of things, they can't pinpoint what cell mutated first, and why. But when you add heavy smoking over a long period of time, you can make an educated guess that something about smoking causes lung cancer. Their best guess right now is the smoke, not the nicotine. It's the same reason why they say not to char meat, because that creates carcinogens. Burning things creates new compounds, a lot of which are carcinogens. Fossil fuel, leaves, meat, they all create carcinogens when burned.

>>135696701
Legal here, moralfag.

>>135703855

Ask yourself this, Weed Bro:

Which cities in this fine nation would absolutely embrace you for sparking up a big phatty in public?

SEA?

PDX?

SFO?

Now what do those cities all have in common?

THE FAGGOT BLUE PILL.

That's a fundamental problem for you, Weed Bro'.

BTW: You fucking smell like shit and don't even know it.

>>135704906
Showing that blue states have certain rights does not make them BLUE RIGHTS. YOU ARE A RETARD.
I got introduced to Cannabis in the COUNTRY, so your argument is bullshit anyway, people in the city are more interested in having these rights because they actually get in trouble for breaking the law there.

>>135704906
I don't smoke pot, spastic. I voted for it, because I I think it's ridiculous it's illegal, I've seen far more damage from opoids and meth and alcohol than I have pot. And, I guess you'e never been to NYC, Chicago, Miami, Nashville, or any other large city where pot is smoked openly in the street, and nobody gives a fuck except uptight moralfags.

I'm not the one who stinks around here, you filthy little toad.

>>135705587
You're in denial, Weed Bro'.

You might as well put on rainbow colored chaps and go march in the Castro Distrct.

Here's a pro-life tip, Weed Bro': Dump the shit that makes you stink and get a healthy lifestyle. No more booze...no cigs...lots of veggies...quality protein...run 35-42 miles a week...life 3 or 4 times a week...be a man again.

But weed? Sorry, but I'm not going to enable your fucking crutch anymore. Flush that shit down the shitter and get your balls back, Weed Bro'.

>>135695588
Both of grandparents on my dad side smoked the whole time they were in the hospital and had cancer and both ended up dying of cancer. The person posting in your picture hasn't gone outside and actually talked to people that have had people they know die from cancer due to smoking.

who fucking cares what other people do? even if it hurts them, adults are responsible for themselves and whatever drugs they take. paternalism will not help society.

>>135695444
its not implying its bad specifically

just that its a symptom of having deeper issues

>>135686967
what species is that thing

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>>135706107
>Flush that shit down the shitter and get your balls back, Weed Bro'.
Hey faggot, I can go ten times further than you in a desert or any other apocalyptic scenario. I don't need to here your approval to do shit. I am informing others who might be swayed by your arrogant kike-serving rotten clump of a brain.