Venezuelan General /vzg/ - Hotwheels Caracas Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVESMxs4rbA

are there any torture or mass execution videos out yet?

>>135672268
posting for support

>>135672457
HD version on netflix soon

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Esto se va a descontrolar :v

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La plata

>Civil War is about to start in Venezuela.
how long have we been saying this

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>this press conference

CIA is gonna co-opt the Opposition brehs

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>>135672268

Drumpf just froze all of Maduros assets. Discussing military action now.

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>>135672578
>:v
kys

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>>135672645
why dont the police just shoot them?

>>135672735
>cia is omnipotent force in venezuela
>cia unknowingly supporting terrorist groups in middle east
i wonder what board you're from

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>>135672597
>>135672540

It really doesn't feel like those policemen are willing to fight.
Protestors should try to have them on their side.

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>>135672890

timestamp?

Looks to me like the fireworks are coming from the anti-Maduro "protesters." How dare the voters of Venezuela have an election (where the oppos refused to vote) to change their own constitution? Fuck the gusanos.

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>>135672735
Right wing CIA death squads when?

>Non-White country
Don't care.
>Non-White people
Don't care.
>Failing because of Jewish Socialism
Don't care.

>Happening
Do care.

>Destabilization
Do care.

>>135672878
>actually thinks South America isn't used as a testing ground by CIA and FSB/KGB

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>>135673066
10/12

Hasta la vista, marxistas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mvrlbxiRjg

Weapons. coming. soon.

>>135673066
any dead?

>>135672540
would a firework even do any damage?

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>>135673112
>>Happening
>Do care.
>
>>Destabilization
>Do care.
i am only interested in this to shove it on my commy friends faces, years ago they were defending chavez now maduro, fuck them look at the mess

>>135672876
Flag checks out.
First of all, these people's families are also starving, they are probably out there "defending socialism" under threat of firing and/or arrest, second of all, only third world country policemen shoot their own citizens.

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>>135673228
7 injured I think 1 dead

>>135673367
if the government can't pay their own enforcers in food, how do they still hold any power?

>>135673322
>i am only interested in this to shove it on my commy friends faces, years ago they were defending chavez now maduro, fuck them look at the mess
Indeed. This is just another sign that judeo socialism can never work.

And that non-Whites have no place in White countries.

And it's very telling how the judeo media absolutely refuses to report this.

>>135672993
nigger if i looked like that i wouldnt be here

>>135673508
>tfw you don't own any body armor, a helmet, gas mask and a homemade shield.
At well. At least I can eat dinner tonight.

>>135672918
That's because they're lazy cholos who don't want to do any kind of work

>>135673142
why did the policeman at the end throw his bike in the fire? was this a planted roadside bomb or was a bike rigged?

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I got a couple webms but they're old as fuck

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>>135672873
Cuando saltes el muro lo haré.

>>135672876
Policemen are not socialist militants. They only follow order because that's their only way to get food for their family.

They are also scared because the State is about to collapse, and their moral is very low.

>>135673529
>judeo media absolutely refuses to report this
not sure if you are in the US, here in EU i heard several radio stations talking about this extensively today, but on tv and major news outlets in general there is very little, yes.
But lets face it, nobody ever really gave a fuck about vuvuzela

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>>135673730
that reminds me of this one from Ukraine

If you are a commie get the fuck out

>>135673508
The firework launcher is fucking amazing

>>135673785

Call in the military then.

>>135673860
>firework launcher

does that count as a nigger invention?

>>135673564
Kek

>why did the policeman at the end throw his bike in the fire?
Who fucking knows
> was this a planted roadside bomb or was a bike rigged?
Supposedly it was a planted gasoline bomb

>captcha: justice

>>135673505
With the diluted nonsense about promises of a better life, I seriously have no clue what's stopping the armed forces from turning on the ridiculously incompetent government.

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>>135673437
Thanks for posting the webms, spanish anon. Lot of stuff to see.

>>135673789
>not sure if you are in the US,
I am.

>here in EU i heard several radio stations talking about this extensively today, but on tv and major news outlets in general there is very little, yes.
Most I've heard about this in the media was a #PrayForVenezuela last night on twitter. There might be some headline crawls at the bottom of the screen on the news networks but I rarely watch them.

>But lets face it, nobody ever really gave a fuck about vuvuzela
No but you'd think the (((media))) would love to show the action packed images of a country's collapse.

>>135673783
Don't you have some haitian cock to choke on?

>>135674068
>>135673662
misquoted

>>135673944
Probably too scared to assemble a military force in a major city. Safer to keep them spread out and disorganized

>inb4 nothing happens for the next 3 months

>>135674086
>would love to show the action packed images of a country's collapse
i THINK they (media in USA) worry it might help Trump narrative in some way is that possible?

>>135673785
they'd be a lot more useful with high morale

stop "paying" them in useless money and start paying them by providing housing & food/water, using buildings and goods you seize from your political enemies

cops with something to fight for will be a lot more effective

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>>135672268
fuck Venezuela tbhfam

>>135674166
i've actually heard that in some cities the military is deployed, that's why the death toll is higher there. there are pictures of snipers

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>>135672645
ô seu policia, pode rezar, que é hoje que nós vamos te matar :3

>>135673564
how's Valencia holding up?
I'm concerned on what's going on currently since family and all.

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>>135673944
Only the high ranking officers support Maduro, the other ones suffer as much as the people, just a little less. They are not oblivious to what is happening though. You have to understand that there is no longer a Venezuelan government, there are several groups of interest fighting each other for pieces of this failed state using Maduro as a puppet. If he calls in the military he will probably have to deal with mutinies, coups and god knows what. The national guard is the only institution that is 100% controlled by him, that's why he employs it and not the army.

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>>135673730

how long until the oposition suddenly by some misterious forces gets weapons.

you know it will happen soon.

>>135674376
shit i meant >>135672890

>>135674220
>i THINK they (media in USA) worry it might help Trump narrative in some way is that possible?
1. it would show that socialism doesn't work.
2. it would show darkies in a negative light
3. it would help Trump's message overall message, yes.

Though the media could also use it against Trump...
"oh why isn't he helping these poor, oppressed people?"
"oh this is because of US actions and sanctions against these poor, oppressed people."
"oh look at these pictures, gib us ratings plox"

AMERIFAGS GTFO MY LAND
CHAVEZ VIVE

>>135674271

Enjoy refugees :D

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>>135672268
>Peron
>Milosevic
>Saddam
>Gaddafi
>Assad
>Yanukovych

Who do you support /pol/? I stand with Maduro.

>>135674556
i think they evaluated both options you put and they concluded that with Trump media pull and banter ability they would end up looking shitfaced, so they bury the news

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Can I post Venezuelan QTs?

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>>135673973
Nope. The merchant of asia invented those.

>>135674693
>i think they evaluated both options you put and they concluded that with Trump media pull and banter ability they would end up looking shitfaced, so they bury the news
Yeah, reporting this happening is not in their best interests. Which means it really is in our best interests.

here's the venezuela r e d d i t

https://www.reddit.com/r/vzla/comments/6qo31d/si_se_fuese_a_tomar_una_plaza_en_ccs_a_lo/

they're talking about staging a Ukraine-style occupation. one of them is even suggesting putting revolutionary counter-sniper teams

>>135674657
>I stand with Maduro
this is the other thing, all the alternatives are really fucking terrible and while i hated chavez and hate maduro i really cannot envision a future where anything better comes out and fix shit....

>>135674695
What's her name?

>>135672268
Thanks for keeping this relevant anon.

is venezuela a failed state at this point?

is basically an anarchy now?

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Stop coming here veneshits. Stay there and get the fucking commie bus driver out and all the other greasy nut fucks of your government killed. Get your shit together you cunts.

are the protestors the good guys or is it more complicated than that? From what I can gather the state has been good for the public sector and the military/police but the rest of the population is neglected?

>>135674657
i support almost everyone in this list, but maduro is shit and no fanatic putinist will convince me of otherwise

>>135674657
Libya, Iraq, and Syria were all prosperous countries where the rule of the law was observed and followed, the same could not be said about Ukraine and Serbia during the Yugoslav wars, but Serbia was much better than Ukraine overrall. In Venezuela you have a full blown cleptocracy that is pludering the country for the last 10 years, making the once most prosperous Latin American country, with the biggest oil reserves in the world, ripe for tourism, with fertile land and other countless resources the poorest one in the region, with no respect for the rule of the law, their own constitution and institutions. There is a difference between being a leader and being a gang of official plunderers.

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>>135673505
>>135674084
Americans are mentally disable subhumans.

>>135672890

What the her name?

>>135672890

If you are pic related, you just got a ticket out of Venezuela. Love it how that crucefix falls gently into your brests. Call me: 351 91 184 54 76.
(number is fake)
(I don't believe you are that girl)

>>135674889
>is venezuela a failed state at this point?
Not officially.

There's an actual, official designation given to failed states.

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>>135674870
A junta would solve things. It did wonders in Chile, it will do the same in Venezuela. What we see now is what Allende wanted for Chile, thank God Pinochet stepped in first with the authorization of congress.

>>135674645
You'll surely start seeing a lot of them start appearing in Brazil too, I bet we will too...god fucking dammit why can't any of these stupid third world countries make their governments function properly???

>>135674905
>are the protestors the good guys or is it more complicated than that
im afraid its a lot more complex, there is no good alternative to anything now, its gonna be a shitshow for a while. Their currency is already being handled mugabe style, there is nothing left except a lot of OIL below.

>>135674905
>are the protestors the good guys
From what I understand, the protesters are the people who are starving to death and who otherwise don't have the means to survive.

All thanks to the Socialist government policy.

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>>135674486
There are certain many potential outside actors who could. I wonder about that too.

>>135674905
is a commie failed state faggot.

>>135675094
>not officially
>CNN lies

>>135675202
Venezuela is in such a decrepit state that they don't even have the means to export their own oil.

>>135675167
ah i agree but then the army would need to stage a coup at least right? i should have said that there is no DEMOCRATIC solution

>>135674870
It definitely isn't, they want to ruin everything anti-american (anti kike empire). How long will it pass for CIA to publish its involvement in this shitfest. Let me ask you this. Would you support intervention in DPRK or Iran (without nukes arguments pls)?

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>>135674875
filename,

saoli sabitini

>>135674898
Fuck you fucking faggot. Should have we done the same while you guys were being hammered by FARC?

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>>135675003
This is so fucking funny holy shit. Pic related is the truth though.

>>135675202
how the hell can maduro possibly salvage the situation given the current state of the country?

>>135672890
https://www.instagram.com/ritatiecher/?hl=en

She is a huehue. Typical lying veneshit.

>>135675228
>>not officially
>>CNN lies
Again, the phrase "failed state" is an official designation.

Yes, Venezuela is probably a failed state at this point.

But until it's recognized as such by the UN and other international groups, it's officially not.

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CIA niggers should give protesters deadly weapons and depose the commie regime from power.

>>135673437

Honestly, Spaniard, do you know how many died yesterday during the election?

In TVE I heard it was 118 but today the Portuguese media say only barely more than ten. They're to busy reporting on how Cristiano Ronaldo owes the Spanish state or not.

>>135675341
Venezuela is not a democracy, so why are people discussing democratic solutions. The opposition gambled and played this game with a government that changes the rules of the game when they see fit. Look where it got them. There is no other alternative right now, I think the captains, majors and other low ranking officers will start stirring up problem anytime soon.

>>135675352
i meant to say that was the other thing that irks me, nm
i live and do biz in south east asia, so i would be against intervention in those countries but on a purely personal interest basis. I have no position on this fight, and hate commies. I also would prefer to see people living better than this shit.

>>135674486
You mean a rogue army unit that get's tired of shooting at their countrymen might see what their doing and regret it thus allowing people some weapons?

Nah everything is an inside job even my computer, miniature electrical Jews high-fiving each other to provide electricity.

>>135675571
>is a failed state
>is not because the kikes at CNN and the UN wont call it

>>135675441
>saoli sabitini
Thanks Anon

>>135675594
118 sounds closer to the overall death toll in the past few months of crisis.

I've heard similar figures to 10, probably more than 10 but less than 20 yesterday

>>135675696
lets just call it nigeria2

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>>135675000
>CLEPTOCRACY
>Cleptocracy made a great country bad

Keep being a retarded CIA dick sucking faggot

>>135675489
>Lesotho:38%
yikes

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>>135675489
>specifies blacks only

Outplayed yourself once again stupid American.

Go shoot your neighbors dog now.

>>135673505
Maduro had placed only his party people in police and army power, a bit like Roach Coach in Turkey. Maduro is no longer legitimate, and he will keep losing support until he has nobody left.

>>135675684
you know it will happen soon before weapons start appearing in the black market.

do you really think they wanna keep fighting with fireworks and stones?

are u dumb?

>>135675494
There's no exit, very sad

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>>135675594
yup 118 official deaths since the protests began.
pic related was yesterday

>>135675696
Well lets be honest all non-White countries are or are on the verge of becoming failed states.

If it wasn't for Whites, they'd all still be living in grass or mud huts.

>>135673659

Honour your flag. Show some respect. Or if you are not so inclined, at least be funny.

Wasnt there reports back in 2014 of the CIA trying to stir up revolutionary sentiment in Venezuela?

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>>135675789
>Oy vey, the CIA themselves orchestrated all the narco infiltration in the Venezuelan administration, they also set up the Suns Cartel, they carved the country and gave it to narco-generals and starved the Venezuelan people by orchestrating failed economic policies!!!!!

>It's all a CIA plot, how can I not see that.

You guys are pathetic. The best part is that you don't even mention the CITGO, which is the biggest Venezuelan government asset donating to Trump's inauguration ceremony and Chavez being trained at the School of the Americas. Then again, you are all a bunch of weird schyzos.

>>135674166

The Venezuelan military has shown it is made of a bunch of cowards...

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>>135675888
Nice digits but check the rightmost column. You're not very good at reading comprehension are you?

>>135675874
38 per 100,000. A lot less but still pretty yikes.

>>135672268
I like it how all the commies go crazy that the people are fighting back. The fact that Maduro's thugs have been beating and shooting protesters doesn't bother them.

>>135676186
They have been trying for decades.
But the change wouldn't really be worse either. Venezuela now is a complete fucking mess.

>>135675696
Whats going on in colombia? Will your goverment allow refugees? Can you even support them?

>>135675904
I can see English isn't your first language colombro so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I was being sarcastic, of course if this continues some of them will get weapons either through legit means or through the black market. although the possibility of some soldiers thinking for themselves cannot be relied upon, it is a possibility none the less.

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>>135675648
Well me neither but I would like for countries to be governed by its own people.
Pro-tip: Chavez didn't die naturally

>>135676021
we're doing fine.
peru is doing fine.
chile is doing fine.

most of them have non retarded economic systems invented by a jew in the XIX century.

hell, even nigeria is doing fine.

Do when is russia/cia/israel/whoever gonna drop some fucking weapons on these protestors? I'm surprised they haven't "discovered" any hidden weapon caches.

>>135675186

No, not really. There are some on Northern cities, but the amazon itself is a shield. Plus we don't speak spanish. Colombia is their easiest option.

God damn it's shit over there

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>>135675577
nice digits

>>135676368
The cancer gun is the funnier thing to come out of the Latin American left in years.

>>135676368
>Chavez didn't die naturally
is there anywhere i can read some stuff on this? why did he not go to cuba to get cures?

Right i need a quick, concise low-down on what the hell is happening in Venezuela because i am ignorant to the situation

>>135673322
This. Fucking niggers that believe that shit are all over I guess.

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>>135675441
Get fucked chamo. We fight and die for our peace. Keep sending your cheap prostitutes here, we are fucking enjoying your misery and we'll fucking deport every single not registered fuck that comes to steal jobs and do it like shit beaners for cents.

>>135676402
>we're doing fine.
>peru is doing fine.
>chile is doing fine.
Except for being non-White hellholes filled with drugs and crime.

>>135676540
>socialist government
>extremely high inflation
>food and other basic goods scarce
>president seizing more and more power by the day
>people are hungry and are rioting over it

>>135675186

2% of Madeira islanders are already Venezuelan refugees.

Luckily, they are mostly Portuguese.
Unluckily, those truly sucessful, already went to Spain...

>>135676718
If anything this proves exactly why everyone should be preppers.

If you had emergency supplies you could ride out crisis' like this.

>>135676324
http://gulfnews.com/news/americas/colombia-to-give-citizenship-to-venezuelans-hurt-by-immigration-crisis-1.1577912

I don't think a migrant crisis will destroy us.
we're united with the oposition because we both hate commies to death.

also most venezuelans want simply to have a new life and they want to simply work, so they're not like muslims who want to leech the european welfare system.

we don't have a welfare system in the first place.

>>135676199
>weird schyzos

Chavez was just that, his mental illness opened just a small crack for the region's political autonomy. Schizophrenia is our only way to freedom, thank God he was trained at the SOA.

On the other hand, I obviously prefer locally administered cartels than USA-run ones.

>>135676498
He went to Cuba, and according to some reports, he actually died in Cuba on December 31st, 2012, but the official media covered this and told everybody that Chávez died at March 5th, 2013, during that time they said that Chávez was very well, working hard, until they started to prepare the people about his decease the same day they announced he died with first saying that he had a respiratory problem, and then the news he died.

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>>135676498
Dude it's all over the place. These leaders are like torns in giant's eyes. If next Yeltsin comes, Lukashenko will be next, mark my words

>>135675899
>he will keep losing support until he has nobody left.
The problem is that he controls the media and information channels, only the internet is free of that shit and not every Venezuelan has access to it. Whenever Maduro calls for a pro government gathering only a few people show up but then on TV and everywhere else they show footage of the streets full of people from when Chavez was alive.

He keeps claiming and bluffing that he has support from the people and this idea, as retarded as it is, works wonders for him because he can keep saying "we are a majority"

>>135672268
I may be no expert on civil war, but all these webs and pix look like civil war has already arrived

>>135676704
why is coming from failed states to less failed states not doing fine?

>>135675000

You seem to be a true Brazilian.

I hope you will welcome the Empire when the time comes.

>>135663422
You're cool fampai.

>>135664565
>are you into geopolitical studies
I guess? Whenever developments happen in current events, I keep asking Cui Bono. It doesn't hurt that I lurk in /sg/ threads and have learned the importance of supply/smuggling lines. So I pay attention to things like who are the ones who rush in aid after the Ecuador earthquake, or how is the Venezuelan government not totally broke and then how those nations pay for that aid/loans back.

>>135674271
I keep wondering what would happen should the US start immolating itself into /USg/, given how much military aid keeps being funneled here. Who would replace the US as patron, and how much harder will they work the wealth pump? The Chinese, given their existing wealth pumps in Ecuador and Venezuela are the obvioius candidate chomping at the bit. That backburner worry is what I think pushed the government to make a deal with the FARC when it did, and have less on its plate to deal with when the gibs stop flowing.

The Brazillians in this thread and in the prior thread keep mentioning murmurs of things happening there that I have no idea what is going on there, like it is a separate planet. The Chinese (no surprise) threw in a lot of money for infrastructure, so there is this balance between this new money and old US money. I would really appreciate it if the Brazillians in this thread could explain what is going on there.

>>135674645
REEEEEEEEE VUVULEZANS GET OUT

>>135676540
Mr bus driver presidente just passed a "vote" to pretty much supersede the opposition controlled senate to push whatever he wants with a new body that includes all his supporters.

>>135676844
They assimilate better than haitians that's for sure.

>>135676991
>why is coming from failed states to less failed states not doing fine?
Because you're still filled with mud races.

>>135674695

I dare you.

Rolling for total meltdown of venezuelan society.

>>135676276
>beating and shooting protesters
Are they hiring?

>>135677083
again, they're developing from failed states to developing nations.

even africa is developing at 5-7% every year.

>mud races
you only need the smartess ones to make the economic decisions and policy.

even africans are starting to develop their countries into stable poor ones.

>>135677019
This country is on the path of dissolution. There is no other historical or political reality. Brazil as a geopolitical project has failed.

>>135675147

Nice.
That guy from borbujas de amor is the greatest. Is he "white"?

>>135677379
>again, they're developing from failed states to developing nations.
Which can never occur because they're non-White.

>you only need the smartess ones to make the economic decisions and policy.
There are no smart muds. Only muds who've been educated by Whites.

>>135677036
What do you mean by explaining what's going on there?

RIGHT WING DEATH SQUAD TIME

How many kids do you think are being kidnapped for sex slavery during this chaos?

>>135677243
Are you a ghetto nigger willing to terrorize your fellow countrymen protesting tyranny for a loaf of bread?

>>135672918
The police is cancer, they only exist to defend the state and this case an state that kills and starve its own population. They deserve anything that happens to them.

>>135677500
current modern day nigeria economy is several times bigger than any WWI european country.

modern day malawi has the same GDP as the civil war USA.

wow, facts are racist.

any modern african country is literally better than 1910 europe.

>>135675991

Thank you, probably I was too tired then. But I woke up thinking more than 100 had died...

>>135675755

Thanks anon.

>>135677702
All the kids.

Israel has a congo line of cargo ships filled with little chitluns for the Chosen to rape.

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>>135677702
Massive amounts

>>135676540
>A decade or so of sustained economical and social progress due to strong policies mostly led by center-left governments
>Chavez dies
>Right wing entrepreneurs in Argentina
>Coup in Brazil
>Region goes to shit
>Venezuelans are cucks that just want their iPhones, can't withstand the penury of a revolutionary process
>Socialist threat leads to a financial orchestrated distortion
>Crazy inflation levels
>Food shortage
>Maduro develops a kind of hallucinatory primitivist socialism that relies heavily on personalism and certain factions of the military
>+110 deaths
>Official US Sanctions

Why hasn't anyone couped Maduro? He honestly has gone full throttle retard and it's amazing none of the military has murked his ass to avoid getting their throats slit when they get overthrown.

>>135677767
>any modern african country is literally better than 1910 europe.

If GDP is your only metric to go by. But it's still full of niggers and I'd rather live in Europe a hundred years ago than modern day Africa.

>>135675648

Yes. There are 30 million people in Venezuela. It doesn't matter to me that most are shitskins... a few are indeed white, most are actually Christians, their culture is Europeanised to the max despite the (elements) in their midst.

I truly don't wish them harm, Venezuela could easily be a great country to live in.
It's just like Cuba all over again...
The work of the devil, it seems to me...

>>135678086
He still owns the military evidently

>>135677983
>coup in Brazil


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHH

>>135674657
Stand with a socialist whos with economical decisions led to the country have more than 100% inflation a year and shortages of food, medicine and even toilet paper. Your must be proud of yourself.

>>135672744
based umbrella old lady.

>>135676199

Great comment;
Undecipherable chart...

>stupid greek poster turns every thread into one about burgers
obsessive fuck

>>135675000
Theres no difference leaders are just plunderers of others peoples labors, where they make their name in history fucking, controlling, dictating and regulating other peoples lives.

>>135678276
Did ya vote Temer, meu filho?

>>135677983
>A decade or so of sustained economical and social progress due to strong policies mostly led by center-left governments
I can't imagine being this retarded and functioning in everyday life.

>>135678391
>literally supporting kike funded coup
Pro tip: Assad is also a socialist

>>135678470
USD/VEF exchange at the border town of Cucutá in Colombia. It's not that hard.

>>135677767
>current modern day nigeria economy is several times bigger than any WWI european country.
>modern day malawi has the same GDP as the civil war USA.
>any modern african country is literally better than 1910 europe.
And every White country is currently infinitely better than any non-White country DESPITE the attempts to turn White countries into non-White countries.

Also, back then non-White countries were infinitely worse than White countries.

>>135678092
yeah, let's ignore than in 1920, 80% of the population has an STD.
let's also ignore the child mortality rates, the lack of modern medicine.
the fact most people died before 20.
the fact the population needed to have 6-8 children just to mantain the population.
the fact that there wasn't electricity.
the fact that only 2% of whites knew how to read.
the fact that in 1910 whites had an IQ of 70 if modern IQ test were used.
the fact they had constant colera and other outbreaks where they used astrology to cure themselves.
the fact they lack basic sanitation and shitted on the streets.
the fact they couldn't drink water without getting poisoned so your only drink was beer.
the fact you couldn't afford anything else than potatos or wheat.
the fact simple food like eggs and meat was considered rich people food.
the fact that class inequality was considered normal and designed by god because poor people are dumb and stupid.
the fact there was not class mobility, so you're stuck in poverty all your life.
90% of the population was working in survivor farming, making barelly enough to afford wheat and nothing else.


wow, sure modern day africa is a worse fate.

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>>135677379
>mfw Rwandans earn more than Venezuelans
>mfw they have a growing economy
>mfw they have food and basic goods
I want out of this incompetent government

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>>135678589
No, the lefties did.

>>135676495

True. Everybody knows true leftists are imune to cancer...

>>135678695
Pro tip: The US, China and Russia are all socialists with different degrees.

>>135678695
Syria has nothing to do with Venezuela. Go back to your shitty general.

You fucks just have to shit up these threads, don't you?

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>>135676686
>We fight and die for our peace
That's why you guys had to sign a peace deal with FARC you absolute cuckold? Enjoy having FARC hold office positions now.

Let me know when the next commie rebel/narco group starts displacing Colombians again.

>and we'll fucking deport every single not registered fuck that comes to steal jobs and do it like shit beaners for cents.

Already beat you to it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/24/venezuela-colombia-deportation-border-crackdown

>>135676454
I don't know hopefully soon. That is what the resistance needs ASAP. If they had weapons this shit would have already been over with.

>>135678884
Archive please
https://archive.is/XrXlG

>>135678779

Sounds to me you just described Africa.

>>135678737
a modern day african life is literally better than what kings could afford them.

even clothing was considered expensive back then.

also they had not concept of medicine.
and most people died young.

but yeah, europeans were better when they literally died of massive diseases by the millions.

wow, such nice life.

>>135672268
>https://twitter.com/AFPespanol/status/891761276631883777
Shame about the kids but nice twatter get all the same

>>135677983
>can't withstand the penury of a revolutionary process

Nigga, please....

According to your own wording, didn't the revolution start 10 years ago?

Stupid cabeza negra...

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>>135678841
>hurr durr

>>135678797
Agreed lol

>>135676844
>we're united with the oposition because we both hate commies to death.

Be careful. I predict Colombia will be thrown into the hell hole that Venezuela is. Colombia, I don't know if Spaniards will keep ruling you in the future.... beware!

>>135679109
>conflict in the making for nearly 2 decades now
>little shits who followed the Syrian conflict now think they are experts on Venezuela
fuck off

>>135678779
Nigger what you described was true 1000 years ago. It in no way reflects 1920s Europe.

>>135678797
did you know that the tech of our voting machines comes from venezuela ? Communism runs deep in brazil.

>>135678841
It does you fucking retard
>>135678834
Stop living in a fairy tale

>>135678695
Venezuela is whole different story, dumb socialist.

>>135678932
KEK

>>135679303
prove it then.

Show us what little you know of Venezuela so we can laugh at you. Go back to your hugbox, kid.

>>135678974
>but yeah, europeans were better when they literally died of massive diseases by the millions.
Yes because non-Whites are still dying by the millions and back then, were dying by the hundreds of millions.

The only reason you're not as bad as you were back then is because of Whites.

Whites are superior to non-Whites.

be strong Maduro against the fascists

>>135675311
>don't even have the means to export their own oil
this

the strategical imperative for any faction to gain power over Venezuela will rest on this factor, and in relation to if the global market of oil exports is being artificially increased to drive the price of oil down

the opposite is also possible, a restriction in oil exports by certain (((oil Cartels))) to artificially drive the price of oil up

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>>135672621
Incredible symmetry, i refuse to believe a brown person of any sort engineered this.

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>>135672688

Pleasee ignore this CONGOlombiano

>>135672578
matate a la verga por favor

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>>135679249
>hurr durr

>>135677436

I don't see it that way.

I mean... I do, I understand you... but that suits the interests of many...
And Brazil will not desintegrate any time soon, nonetheless. Yes, you will be a fucked up, non performing country... a "failed" one if you will... but you will keep your unity, your sovereign integrity (at least as up to this point) and you will keep being relevant, if not internationally, than sure in South / Latin America.

By 2035 or 2045, I will become Emperor of Brazil!!!! (Really, empire - which will not be implemented - could be your salvation if done right)

>>135676844
>we don't have a welfare system in the first place.
What is SISBEN?

>>135677540
What I hear from the news is that Brazillian government is/was in a circular firing squad mode, with everyone implicated in the Oberbretch bribery scandals, first Dima, then Temer. Aside from this, I'm vaguely aware of BRs having a history of periodic military governments alternating with civilian government Ordem o Progresso. So a quick rundown on how Brazil got to this point, from the last military junta to the present day?

>>135677767

Have you been to Africa? No? Then shut the fuck up.

>>135679303
Says the dude whos in favor of an Dictator who kills it civilians and oppress the opposition fuck its civilians but atleast hes a eastern puppet not a western one.

OP should have that AJ video up at the top. Fairly good assessment of the situation.

>>135678932
modern day africa has the same stats in terms of literacy, sanitation, STD, child mortality as europe in 1940-60.

>>135679262
nigger, there wasn't antibiotics in 1920.
80% of the population had some STD in europe in 1920.

education wasn't as widespread as is today.

europe was a shithole worse than modern day africa up until WWI or WWII.

you seem to think africa is like failed states in civil war.

most of africa has had 20 years of economic development, most dictatorships had felt, most are now stable democracies, they're getting foreign investment, their leaders now want to develop their countries rather than being corrupt pieces of shit.

nigger, just because mugambe is alive doesn't mean all african countries are shit.

nigeria has a film industry that produces more films than hollywood.

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>>135679529
Based Benoit

>>135677500

East Asia exists.
Muds can be smarter than most Europeans. They are just few in number.

That flag should not be used as an excuse to expose stupidity forward.

>>135679312
>>135679409
Are you this retarded? It's all part of American interventionism, all with the staged oil crisis by Saudis and USA. It seems to me that pol only supported Assad since SJWs cried about religion of peace, not because of kike staged coup that is happening in Venezuela

>>135679845
Assad kills his people,yes, but he is the most reasonable choice for Syria right now.
Secular dictator>>>commie kurds>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jihadist dogs

>>135679845
Yeah like Assad, Gaddafi and Milosevic ate children for breakfast and killed civilians for fun

>>135680019
>East Asia exists.
Still inferior to Whites.

>Muds can be smarter than most Europeans.
They can. By in large, they aren't.

>That flag should not be used as an excuse to expose stupidity forward.
This flag is being used to promote the greatness of the White race.

>>135679423
>dieing by the millions
colera killed at best 10k deaths, faggot.

we're not in the middle ages.
even africans now have access to modern medicine and there's plenty of ONG who sends doctors in health missions in africa.

plus all the world health organization and other charities giving modern medicine to africans.

get your memes right, retard.

last giant outbreak was the spanish flu in 1920, again, in white countries.

>>135678716

It's not written there. But yeah I got it. Thanks.

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>>135680029
Amen

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>>135680029
>hey, lets support a communist killer, atleast his oil doesn't go the US

>>135680029
>prove it then
>its America you retard!
Ok. Keep being retarded kid. It would take you 10 minutes go figure out what this is about by doing a little bit of research, but instead you decide that because the CIA has done such things in the past, that they are responsible for ALL such things forever forward.

Or, Chavez nationalized the oil industry at a time when the price was fairly high, allowing him to buy people's love with gibs and handouts, and then the oil market crashed (like it always fucking does).
This is poor state management, stop looking for ghost where there are none. It makes everything else you say look really retarded.

>>135680169
Dictators dont kill their politician opponents and regime dissidents, don't crack down on any civilian anti regime organization, and its all flowers and rainbows.

>>135680340
These retards don't even realize Maduro was a fucking bus driver before he got appointed.

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Maduro is gonna' end up like Mussolini

>>135680282
>colera killed at best 10k deaths, faggot.
*Cholera

>we're not in the middle ages.
No, you're in the stone age without Whites.

>even africans now have access to modern medicine and there's plenty of ONG who sends doctors in health missions in africa.
>plus all the world health organization and other charities giving modern medicine to africans.
Thanks to Whites.

>last giant outbreak was the spanish flu in 1920, again, in white countries.
1920...Long before any of us or our parents were alive.

Oh and we beat it too.

>>135679734
SISBEN != free money autismbucks.

>>135679812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfG-5ZhI3wk

you know there's this completelly new invention where people share videos from their own PC called youtube?

>>135672645
The bald guy at 0:18. Looks like he gets it.

>>135675888
fucking lel

>>135680341
So you are saying that drop of oil prices was not influenced by Saudis

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>>135680503
Try again :^)

>>135680440
>being ancap
>supporting foreign government interventions all over the world

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>>135680710
They were by both Obongo and the Saudis to fuck with Putin, but it looks like they only got the already unstable Venezuela.
What a bunch of incompetent fucks

fuck maduro

>>135678884
>2015

>>135680627
unless you're a literal radical muslims, most people and goverments see the benefits of science and modern medicine.

all countries are investing in their own education and investing in their own STEM universities.

just because whites invented science it doesn't mean the other races are retarded enough to not see the value of STEM.

16% of blacks have IQ higher than 100, even in africa this means at least 200 million africans that are smart enough to be doctors or engineers or do STEM.

africans != american niggers.

>>135676957
is this fake publicity fooling any Venezuelans, or just suckers in foreign countries?

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>>135680440
>politician opponents and regime dissidents
Sometimes muslim terrorists are just that. Terrorists.

What do you do when you are the dictator of Syria, and tries to protect all minorities, including the 10% Christians, and suddenly retarded muslims attack them and kill them for fun?

A reasonable dictator would retaliate against those towel heads.
But he would have western retards such as you against him at all times, defending the muslim terrorists.

>>135680710
Venezuela is a member of OPEC. The price drop in oil is from OPEC members trying to push out new market interest (US, Russia, Israeli, etc) by overproducing oil. This is what caused the crash.
Venezuela has been in this decline for near 20 years now, ever since Chavez took the oil industry out of private hands and nationalized it. A result of this is that the industry effectively stopped improving, as well as not dedicating any money to maintain infrastructure. That money instead went to welfare to strengthen Chavez' support (chavistas).
The same type of pause in development can be seen in the US with Amtrak. Ever wonder why our trains are shit? Amtrak has no reason to improve them because they run on the government's dime. Same situation with Venezuela and their oil industry.

For you to insinuate that these oil bust and booms are artificial shows how little you have researched these issues.
There are a lot of oil producing countries, and a lot of them are fairly corrupt.

If this is the US's doing, why did they wait so long? Why not do it when Chavez died? You are grasping at straws to make your theory work, because the obvious truth is too simple for you.
Everything has to be some grand design. Almost like hunting the CIA's dirty deeds has become a religion for you.

Heres a tip: look next door for where the CIA operates. They don't do much so long as their 'routes' are allowed to continue to operate.

>>135680710
Venezuela was a side effect of the oil price war between the saudis and shale american oil companies.

Saudies want to decrease production but the rest of the OPEC say fuck you and increased production.

take into account white countries have no money to consume goods, so global consumption of oil is reduced.

more production with reducced consumption = low prices.

>>135680903
Am all in favor of people taking up arms and killing their country rulers, but i didn't say am in favor of the us arming terrorist across the world to play an geopolitical game with other super-powers while dozens of civilians are killed in result, i just dont pretend to present Assad in any good light.

if Venezuela will fall in a Civil War, its gonna end up like Syria. i can even imagine all the Headlines saying about "Venezuelan Refugees". and those "Venezuelans" will be invaders of America, like how "Syrians" invade Europe. and we all know (((who))) will bring them in.

>>135674271
enjoy ur memes

>>135681218
>most people and goverments see the benefits of science and modern medicine.
>all countries are investing in their own education and investing in their own STEM universities.
>16% of blacks have IQ higher than 100, even in africa this means at least 200 million africans that are smart enough to be doctors or engineers or do STEM.
All. Because. Of. White. People.

>just because whites invented science it doesn't mean the other races are retarded enough to not see the value of STEM.
Without Whites they wouldn't have it.

>>135681598
>tfw no venezuelan loli slave
fuck you

>>135681695
and whites get their knowledge from medieval muslims, chinese, persian and indian mathematician.

wow

>>135681580
Well that IS happening

>>135674889
you wish protest only are made for a bunch of shitters in Caracas

>>135678779

In my family:

No records of people dying of STD (girls maried virgin)
Child mortality was a thing, but probably lower than 20%
Most people died in their 60s and I had great grand parents murdered in their 40s...
Part of my family had only one child (although many bastards were spawned by the man of the house) the other part had more than 8 children. The population was not merely maintained in that side. In the local cemitery 80% of the dead have 3 surnames only, one of them is my own.
There wasn't electricity but there were alternatives;
75% of them were literate, some had higher education, and were not top 2%
IQ of 70... probably not. Pretty complex things happened here in the 20s that required three digits of IQ for what I can say.
Colera... only in Africa...
The lack of basic sanitation did not mean "shitting on the strets". People shat in an area of their house close to where the chickens shat. They mixed it all and it was great for growing plants and agricultural work in general. Of course that place was far away from the inside of the house.
Shit! In the 1920s and 1910s people drank from the same fucking pure fresh water fountains that we drink today. Only back then there were much more such fountains, both private and public. Actually some of those fountains are used today to package and sell water to Northern Europe (mostly).
Poverty was rampart, yes. We did not ate well... unless we were rich.
Eggs was not considered rich people food here. Meat was for festive days mostly. Like once or twice a week.
Class inequality is the norm and it is healty.
Everybody in my family in 1920s got better up in the social scale. Except the richest part, which got fucked by (((politics))) and bad luck. Which is / was normal.
Those who were working in "survivor farming" were doing so in touch with the entire village. They always had enough to feed themselves and sell some. They didn't eat as well as me, of course, but they made it.

>>135681797
Still waiting for the proofs

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>>135680564
I certainly hope so.

>>135681311
Theres no reasonable dicator or leader, i dont have any problem being against both the regime and muslim terrorists, its not a hard thing to grasp.

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>A reminder: the plant at

>10.505788, -68.201187

>is critical to Venezuelan ammunition production. hampering its operation will impede the state's ability to arm itself.

>>135681797
Proofs or gtfo faggot

>>135681275
Venezuelans without other options for information are fed whatever is on national TV and that's controlled by Maduro, if any channel dares to say anything against them they are at the risk of getting their broadcasting licences revoked like it happened to RCTV under Chavez' regime. Some people get fooled overseas too I guess, but that's entirely their fault for not looking at the big picture and making connecting the dots.

>>135681695
your writing system and numbers comes from semites, your religion comes from other semites.

your natural phylosophy comes from western turks.

algebra comes from muslims.
the begginings of medicine comes from muslims.
the first surgeries were done by africans.

jesus christ.

"american" education.

>>135681598
yeah can't wait for USA democracy in southamerica

>>135681897
So you're a bitch who whines because the world isn't perfect.

In the real world you can only choose between Assad, and crazy Jihad muslims.
It looks like you want a lot of dead Christians in Syria, so I already know what you prefer.

>>135678797
´
I like you anon.

>>135681796
>>135682013
according to whom? Anti-White institutions? lolno.

>>135681870
What do you want, to give you hard proof? I can't do that, I don't have any. Columbian anon answered about OPEC so I don't need to speak any further about that. I am only speaking from my belief that people should govern themselves. Also I know that you will play le rationale guy card but Chavez was poisoned

>>135679449
opposition have shown is just anarchisn meme tier

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>>135679449
>t. podemos

>>135681936
Let the CIA know and have them drone strike that shit.

>its gonna end up like Syria.
Syria Conflict fags need to get the fuck out

>>135681940
Proofs of US backing oppositions in independent countries? LMAO

>>135682316
>I can't do that,
Because you are a retard that knows nothing of the situation, but desperately wants to be in the 'know'.
The reasoning for this conflict has been explained a thousand times in these threads. Go watch the fucking AJ video in the OP, it explains it fairly well from the oil perspective.

Holy shit, just do something other than post in this thread.

>>135672578
>>135673783
>>135675147
>>135677054

Enjoy refugees, Dominigger.
Daily remember that a good Dominican is a dead Dominican.

>>135678797
>brazil is commie
TOP KEK

>>135679734
>that Brazillian government is/was in a circular firing squad mode
Well, the previous administration steered the country into the worst recession in 100 years and it all ended up in the biggest political crisis in years.
> with everyone implicated in the Oberbretch bribery scandals
Pretty much, the whole political establishment got "donations" for their campaigns based on rubbing their back once they got elected.
> first Dima, then Temer
Well, sort of. Temer is part of one of the most corrupt parties in Brazil, but he was enacting reforms that made many in the public service unsettles, specially regarding their privileges and almost nobility tier status. It's a mix of actual corruption with political vendetta and protection of privileges when it comes to Temer, nothing like the Bolivarian project and systematic corruption of the Worker's Party though.
>I'm vaguely aware of BRs having a history of periodic military governments alternating with civilian government Ordem o Progresso.
Honestly, both were pretty shit. The Military was filled with positivist ideas which lead to attempts of centralization in a country that didn't even have roads connecting its regions for 200 years, a country bigger than the continental US. You also had massive corruption during their administrations too, don't be fooled. The civilian governments alternated between crazy politicians that locked themselves in their cabinets for days and populist assholes who spent the country into debt, not to mention Vargas being elected after killing 30.000 Brazilians during his reign as the American Duce.
>So a quick rundown on how Brazil got to this point, from the last military junta to the present day?
Honestly, chaos.

New thread pls

>>135682496
>casually responding to only one sentence and calling me a retarded

I bet you are neocon

>>135682726
>memewords and plebbitspacing
you are acting like a retard, why are you surprised to be called one?

>>135680634
all of those countries were made great by white people

>>135681826
there was not public sanitation in europe.
https://owlcation.com/humanities/A-History-of-Dirty-Habits

fucking retards who never read a book.
europeans shitted on the streets, even in their palaces.

>died in their 60
not really, child mortality was a thing and from 6-8 children, only 2-3 reached adulthood in europe.

>literate
medieval times and until XIX century public education systems were invented only a minority could read.
2% literacy rate in medieval times.

>IQ of 70
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/13/american-iqs-in-1900-averaged-67-points

1900 european was dumber than modern day africans.

a modern day european will had an IQ of 130 in 1900.

>chickens
not in the city.
cholera epidemics were frequent in cities until 19 century because people shitted in the same water they drank because they didn't have modern science to see it was a bad idea.

>pure fresh water
which will make you sick dumbass.
also rivers in the cities were contaminated by industrial production and cities wastes.

>feed themselves
90% of americans were into farming until 1910 and WWII.

>>135681889
humanitarian /pol/ at its best, NGOs can fuck off

godspeed Maduro.

>>135682854
So you are neocon

>>135677983
THIS, the right is always working for the sake of free market

>>135682286
>has never read a history book
>we wuz whites and shit

>>135682966
most of that was built by chinese though.

How the fuck are you all not dead yet

>>135682148
In the real world you cant choose this isn't ? its not a popularity contest to see whos gonna win all. The one with whos got the biggest foreign support, the more arms, mens in fight condition and such, is going to win, defending the "honor" of an genocide dictator is not going to change reality and made him win and rule his country trough a golden age.

Baking new bread.

>>135683401
cook it up boi

>>135683293
>The one with whos got the biggest foreign support, the more arms, mens in fight condition and such, is going to win
Without Assad, that would be the muslim terrorists.

So there are two outcomes. Assad, or your muslim terrorists.
You indirectly support the latter because you loathe the former and want him gone.

new bread pls

>>135674237
>rooting for socialism
Off yourself or change your flag faggot

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>>135683401
I thought Venezuela didn't have flour to bake bread?

>>135672268
>Civil War is about to start in Venezuela.
Cool. How long till we get to deploy troops?