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Syria General /sg/ - Comfy Sea edition

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Everything you need to know
https://syriagenerals.wordpress.com

>SOUTHFRONT Jul28
https://youtu.be/rnlihuy-MvI

>Newest Interviews with Assad
https://youtu.be/UlXRv8tf5Z8
https://youtu.be/arHsOcXeN2Q

>Live MAPS
https://globaleventmap.org
http://syria.liveuamap.com
http://militarymaps.info
http://www.cartercenter.org/syria-conflict-map

>Fan maps
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem
https://twitter.com/miladvisor
https://twitter.com/a7_mirza
https://twitter.com/hamza_780
https://www.edmaps.com
http://www.syriancivilwarmap.com

RECENT MAPS
>E Sy Jul27
http://i.imgur.com/jXjYGew.jpg
>Arsal Jul27
http://i.imgur.com/jC6YEb1.jpg
>Raqqa CS Jul26
http://imgur.com/a/rtlVY
>SE Syria Jul 24
http://i.imgur.com/kj4BF8O.jpg
>Palmyra Jul8
http://imgur.com/a/TcJPO
>E Ghouta Jul8
http://i.imgur.com/FrqMjam.jpg
>DeZ Jun 10
http://i.imgur.com/erzKYcC.jpg

Developments Jul 30
>DeZ:SAA blows up ISIS HQ after digging 40m tunnel. Unconfirmed-SAA cuts off IS supply-line from Turdah to DeZ cemetery
>SAA has fire control over Sukhnah Gas Field, 800 meters to city
>Raqqa CS:IS cutoff SAA supply line on Saturday killing 40, on Sunday counterattack freed trapped soldiers& now SAA entered DeZ prov
>Raqqa:SDF controls 50% of the city, IS killed 20 on saturday suicide attack
>E Ghouta:New SAA attack on Ayn Tarma after Faylaq Al-Rahman refuses to expell HTS in exchange for ceasefire deal
>Arsal:1st phase of ceasefire starts as HTS and Hez exchange fallen soldiers, 2nd phase will involve prisoners swap next week
>E Hama CS:RuAF bombs IS tanker convoy in new vid as SAA tries to recapture Uqayribat in order 2 link Salamiyah&T4 Airbase
>MARAWI:18 PHILIP SOLDIERS KILLED IN IS AMBUSH
>US continues training rebels in Jordan to fight IS,many rebel factions quit the Anti-IS Coalition to fight gov
>Houthi Navy targets UAE military ship near Mocha Coast,12 Emirati sailors killed, 23 injured
>Yemen’s army launches huge offensive on southern Saudi military sites

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P >>135570355
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How do you justify being against the neo-liberal and western european influence over the world and yet supporting a leader that is very influenced by western ideas and styles?
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Some days old OC reposted b4 I go.
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wew i thought last thread we were found out
how long till they realize this is actually /Stalinist general/?
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>>135607229
im only against jewish influence
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>SDF lost ~500 fighters in #Raqqa city so far
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>>135607362
Are current western ideals not Jewish?
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>>135607229
im against FORCED westernization
i dont care if a nation on its own accord adopts western values in fact i welcome and encourage it
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nth for SAA
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Well i'm a name fag now but more importantly date with Sryian QT went swimmingly but i'm tired and going to bed. I'll hopefully get the chance to talk about it tomorrow.

Night /sg/ wish me luck with meeting tomorrow. Hoping for massive gainz as always.
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>>135607280
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>>135607496
>supporting ISIS
>forced westernization
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the Kurds are hardcore tribalists, you fucking mong. if you're talking about the PKK, they're minority as shit inside the larger Kurdish force.

The ISIS and FSA we support are very far from communist.
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>>135607504
gn.

im out.later
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>>135607352
>not including 2nd Reich
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>135607069
>1st posting your own thread
autism
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>>135607551
i dont follow
i know that isis are stone age barbarians
i meant something more like the shah in iran t b h
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>>135607229

Modernization without westernization.
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>ISIS claim killed 13 #Assad-forces & captured 1 during battle about control of Ghanim Al-Ali & Zour Shamar in eastern #Raqqa
9 hours old (markito) claim, let's see if ISIS could keep the villages, i doubt it.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.775695&lon=39.383411&z=14&m=b&gz=0;393722105;357792461;2574;0;0;0
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>>135607848
>Modernization
Modernization comes from the movement called Modernity which is 1:1 with what it means to westernize.
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>>135607352
>>135607600
>not including the Weimar Republic
>not including the German Confederation
>not including the Confederation of the Rhine
>not including the Holy Roman Empire
>not going full woke and including the Goths and Charlemagne and the Hunnic Empire
WTF?
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Sukhnah yesterday. SAA confirmed to be in control of the ridge south of the town.
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>>135608219
Wiemar would probably be right there with BRD
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>>135607755
>I'm against forced westernization
>which is why I oppose the group that obviously will not bring it
>because I think the western supporters do want it
>despite it never actually having a chance at bringing it
>instead I'll support the guy with western values
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>>135608237
I think the photos are taken here
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.839027&lon=38.838644&z=14&m=b&gz=0;388298463;348301502;0;0;6866;2113;6866;1409
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>>135607229
>ideas and styles
(and they're actually pretty much Eastern ideas ans styles, not Western or neoliberal)
Assad is neither neoliberal nor Western-influenced. He's a role model.
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>>135608356
Exactly. And the Second Reich (NGC/GE) would be with the Third Reich and the HRE (First Reich) -- and then you'd get the Confederation of the Rhine and the German Confederation between the two.
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>>135608625
Someone with better art skills than me should do that
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>>135608381
assads secular policies are in general well liked b the population AKA not forced
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>>135608685
Good point. Perhaps I could, but to be honest, I'm quite lazy... and tired. I guess I should go to bed. Goodnight.

>>135607864
>>135608237
>>135608426
I'm sorry for not realizing that you're the same Swede that is a legit contributor last thread. Here's a consolation titcow. Goodnight.
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>>135608237
>>135608426
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/891793802888974337
Vid taken here:
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.834413&lon=38.839411&z=18&m=b&show=/37073950/Military-Position
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>>135608895
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thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDi07qQNZk
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Green(almost) busses in Arsal
https://twitter.com/C_Military1/status/891901206783766532
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Seems the interwebs in Syria are down again
https://twitter.com/bgpmon/status/891876319327277056
Did anything happen last time the internet was down? I've forgotten.
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>>135607024

SDF is going to be lucky to get any land East of the Euphrates if the siege in Raqqa holds any longer.
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A reminder that /sg/ supports Trump
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>>135607496
>(((western values)))
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>>135610232
NO. NUH UH. HE BOMBED THAT EMPTY AIRFIELD REMEMBER
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>>135610232
Fuck Drumpf
Suck ISIS dick drumpf
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>>135609995
Reminder that Mosul took nearly 9 months.
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>>135607069
ASSAD WILL ___!
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>>135610232
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>>135610421
>empty airfield
this is a CIAnigger D&C narrative and easily disproven, only gullible cucks believe this
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>>135608625
A version with all that you've described has already been made and does the rounds occasionally
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>>135608237
wow, look at all the sand. it is all totally worth dying for. fucking towelheads
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>>135611056
Oil and gas fields aren't worth anything? Right.
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>>135610466

The difference is that ISIS had full control of Mosul, they have tentative control of the middle of DeZ. And as the HQ explosion demonstrates even in the deepest parts of the city that isnt much.
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>>135610232
>>135610421
>>135610425
trumps doing his best t b h
hes certainly been better on syria then his predecessor much less his opponent t b h
i still have hope for him t b h

>>135610993
it was literally just nine planes and like 2 hangers
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>>135611180
Not discussing DeZ.
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>>135611144
sure, syria is full of oil, leading the prıoduction among opec.
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>>135611180
>>135610466

Also Raqqa isnt as uniquely challenging as Mosul. The bridges that run through the middle prevented an Eastern Front from being used.
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>>135611390
Did someone step on your cockroach mother or why are you so anal?
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>>135611262
>it was literally just nine planes and like 2 hangers
along with 6-9 deaths
the major issue though is chesscucks trying to spin the missile strike on a SAA airbase was beneficial to Assad due to 1293D chess when in fact the cruise missile strike is being used as precedent by Mattis under the pretext of chemical weapons preparations originating from the same airfield bunker when in reality the Russians invited the US to inspect said bunker
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>>135607229

Lol do you really think Syria would westernize if we deposed Assad and turned the country into ISIS-land?
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>>135610232
Not if (as reports suggest) we get dragged into another Zionist war against Iran
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>HTS decree a ban on unlicensed deforestation in Idlib due to; • Oxygen is pretty important • Helps lower high temperatures • Beautification

https://twitter.com/IbnNabih1/status/891609645617487872

kek
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>>135612175
TREES ARE VERY IMPORTANT

ASSAD DOES NOT RESPECT TREES

WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?
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>>135607229
>he hasnt gotten the memo that we just use Syria as a slaughterhouse for a generation of jihadists all while the rest of the world keeps getting stealthily westernized by the youth
The Russians are a classic example, they let all the jihadists that used to plague the Caucausgo to Syria and now theyve been able to go open season on them.
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>Russian government expels U.S diplomats nationalizes properties
i finally can now declare with confidence the new cold war has begun
we used to be hanging around a "eerie peace" bu now thats gone
all doubt is now erased
we 60s now
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>>135612200
*urge to behead intensifies*
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Would Iraq help if it came to blows with the democrats/kurds?
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yo im new wtf is DeZ

thanks sandniggers
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>>135612979
Daesh equals Zion
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>>135612979
Drumpf Ez Done
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>>135612841
The PMU has declared that they will help the SAA in confronting the Kurds but as they have yet to cross the border.
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>>135607229
This battle is much greater than a mere battle for or against westernization of a country. If Russia loses Syria all its allies will leave her, having no illusions that Russia can protect them. Assad must not go or we'll have a unipolar world.
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>>135612979
Drumpf eats Zionist cock
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>>135612979
DeZ is another Vukovar.
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>>135613824
>If Russia loses Syria all its allies will leave her,
does russia even have allies asides from belarus? if so who?
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>>135613948
whats vukovar
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>Swedish ISIL terrorist blows himself up in Syria
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/swedish-isil-terrorist-blows-syria/
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>>135614035
china
iran
your mother
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>>135614121
China and Iran are more like frenemies
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Afternoon /sg/, just had my first job interview, I think I fucked up bad
But the morning train was comfy (until it gets overloaded with people)
>pic related

>>135612175
Why chopping trees when you can chop kuffars' heads?
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>>135614069
it's another Missolonghi
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>>135614092
sadly, i read he was from Sweida, not Sweden.
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>>135614121
i get iran but china?
china is the second strongest nation on earth i dont think the chinks care much bout Syria t b h
the chinks are also opportunistic as fuck and will likely turn on russia in the future anyhow
if anthing china is going to puppet russia in a few decades on account of all the land past the urals being colonized b china
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>>135614279
whats missolonghi

actually i think i been there before is it in broward county FL?
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>>135614035
Armenia and Azerbaijan to a lesser extent. Georgia is in limbo. Ukraine will be back with Russia eventually, this slava to the Ukraine is a failed meme. All of the stan countries are with them more or less. Iran sees them as a strong ally. Then there's Syria, of o course. And general projection of power which may change their relationship with China and Japan depending on how strong it is. Also Mongolia, though that country is a mess and won't ever not be a bitch of Russia or China.

Each one of those that go western route means another missile base right next to Russia and another Russian revolution planning base.
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>>135614353
>if anthing china is going to puppet russia in a few decades on account of all the land past the urals being colonized b china
probably, but right now it's china interest to have russia as a friend
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>Syrian Army reaches northern Deir Ezzor for the first time in years: map
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:10 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has reached the the northern border of the Deir Ezzor Governorate for the first time in several years after liberating three villages near the Islamic State (ISIL) held town of Ma’adan.

Following a tumultuous 24 hours that saw both the government lose more than 40 soldiers during the Islamic State’s counter-offensive near Ghanem Al-‘Ali, the Syrian Arab Army struck against the terrorist forces to reestablish a supply line to the aforementioned town.

Unable to hold their ground, the Islamic State militants were forced to withdraw from Ghanem Al-‘Ali, Al-Rabiyah, and Al-Jabilah after the Syrian Army fractured their main line of defense.
With their forces descending upon Ma’dan, the Syrian Arab Army is looking to seal the southeastern border of Al-Raqqa by forcing the Islamic State out of the aforementioned town along the Euphrates River.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-reaches-northern-deir-ezzor-first-time-years-map/
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>>135612486
>new cold war Has begun
It actually started with Ukraine where the USA finally broke into the Russian SoI
Then Cuba was pressured into opening up to the USA and then they thought Syria would fall next
This is just it getting worse
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>>135607229
Syria was always a Christian nation, it's just that mudslimes multiply more rapidly. Thus the Syrian values are Christian values and Assad's values are a reflection of that.
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>>135614035
The Turkic states suck Russia dick
Mongolia
And the you can't really trust the chinks but for now their interests mostly a line with the Russians
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>>135614764
>"ever good thing comes from muh christian values anything else is from muh mudslimes hurr durr"
no mate Syria aint a "Christian nation"
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>>135614764
>Syria was always a Christian nation
Not since the Roman times lad
And no
Assads values are that of socialism and slight liberalism
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>>135614751
>cuba
actually trump fucked that recently
cuba is back to being neutral/pro-russia
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>>135614959
Gruber?
How the lass going?
Break up or not
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that anyone have that picture of the saudis losing tons of shit to basically nothing in yemen?
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>>135615042
Really? What did trump Do?
Hard to imagine Cuba closing it's doors after all the headlines it made opening up to the USA
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>>135609868
something major happens everytime assad turns off the net, assad does it for the opsec
as for what's happening, ask the NRO who are watching live from their satellites
if SSNP-Chan wasn't told to stop by his bosses, he would be posting megumin explosions to signal it
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>>135614959
Christianity is the thing that saved Syria. I know you're an edgy aethist who probably things paganism is better than Christianity but in time you will understand why Syria stood where other nations fell.

The Christians in Syria are the first Christians and the land is very dear to Christianity as a whole. People who value Christianity are in more places than you could probably believe and are helping Syria resist this satanic war that has been unleashed upon it.
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>>135615131
>know you're an edgy aethist
Strawmans
Christians sadly make a insginficsnt part of Syria population to matter in a outcome of a war
And also the first Christians would actually be in Turkey
As Antioch is the first city to convert
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>>135615129
>>135609868
A comment said its exam day today, so it was cut from 4am to 8:30 am.
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>>135615053
not gruber mate

trump reversed obamas policies put sanctions back in place put travel restrictions back in place stopped anti drug trafficking co-op with the cubans and went on a "muh gommies" "muh human right" tirade
he essentially fucked the relations and sent em back to cold war level
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>>135615094
YOU FUCKING JEWS BE USEFUL FOR ONCE
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>>135615131
A very significant part of syrian refugees are christians. i wonder if any will be left by the end of the war.
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Syria is secular and progressive because the frogs gave the minorities the power.
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>>135615305
>comment said its exam day today
why cut the internet for that?
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>>135615131
the idea that Christians are going to make a difference in the MENA is sill
mid-east christians are a tin minority
and i AM an athiest im not one of the ones who hates religion or anything like that
pagan?????
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>>135615526
Combatting cheating.
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>US-backed rebel commander defects to Syrian Army
H U G E
>If true, Abu Al-Hos’ defection will be the highest level defection from the US-backed rebel forces during the Syrian War.
>Al-Masdar has reached out to the Syrian Arab Army for confirmation.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-backed-rebel-commander-defects-syrian-army/
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>>135615618
Read he brought 30 men with him.
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>>135615593
>combatting cheating
lel, as if they can do anything about it.
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>#US Air Force B-1s flying over #Korea, escorted by #Japan F-2s and #SouthKorea F-15s.
https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/891776008151597057
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things are getting very salty in /vg/
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>>135615761
Can't share the results.
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>>135615812
WOW we sure showed lil kim whats up.
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>>135607352
>this is actually /Stalinist general/
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>>135614035
>does russia even have allies asides from belarus?
chinks,poos,armenia, azeris,etc
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>>135615930
North Korea is not going to stop launching missiles. No amount of sanctions can stop them. And any military action will be very costly so the only option that seems preferable is to accept that they have the weapons and just try to contain them.
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>>135615943
its a joke
in the last thread a burger was harassing Colombia for being a self admitted communist
then because of that he accused ALL of /sg/ of being communist just cuz Colombia was
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>>135615297
>Christians sadly make a insginficsnt part of Syria population
As do jews US's. Not the same, but there's an important legacy and a cultural streak there.
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>>135616161
>in the last thread a burger was harassing Colombia for being a self admitted communist
Oh yeah the hezbollah cocaine poster unironically is a gommunist
Must have missed the thread where the burger sperged out
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>Ziofags attempt to destroy /sg/ by dragging in /vg/ in-fighting using /ptg/ Redditors
>They actually think this will work
>/sg/ activity low because of lack of activity on the battlefield
I'm going to bed.
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>>135616283
>burger sperged out
Check out the /vg/ threads Cocolombia commie is already at 33 posts of nothing but Otto style shitposting
Last thread was 60
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>>135607024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSm-FYVudA
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>>135616166
I didn't deny that
I said that they can't effect the war too much
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>>135616620
>I said that they can't effect the war too much
considering christians make up about 12% of syria's population,they can effect the war.
mountainroaches are less numerous than christians now that i think of it ( mountainroaches do have hordes of spare mountainroaches in roachistan)
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HURRY UP
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This seems to be the frontline now.
No visual confirmation on SAA taking anything west of the ridge.
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>>135616829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2OpQAR4xY
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Lol CommieColombian is saying that Venezuelan protesters are the equivalent of ISIS terrorists
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>>135607352
>DDR
>literally communist
>atheist
>gave us merkel
>gave us die Linke
>trunk enthusiasts
>are today low educated gibs recievers
>somehow based

pls explain
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>Armed clashes in Arsal camps leaves 2 dead. Caused by argument over the corpses of Nusra militants
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>>135616504
Just checked, 68 posts wew
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>Yemen capital today : In Tahrir Square, public execution by gunshot to the head of man who raped & killed a girl aged 4 in Sanaa.
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>>135617073
They are the last areas of German lands to not be infested by niggers and where the few German right wing parties come from
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>>135616931
He's the new maghrebi
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>>135617254
Rape a 4 year old
God disgusting
But kind of broken man can see a 4 year old as a sexual thing
Desvered nothing but death
Good job Yemen
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>>135617073
i didnt make it i thought it just fit the joke
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>>135617210
autism, lad
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>>135617321
>t. flat chest fetischist
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Qassem Soleimani is such a good tactician, he knows how to treat guests.
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TRAITOR TRAITOR TRAITOR
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>>135617398
>sch
>swedish flag
Does not compute
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>>135617254
> public execution by gunshot to the head of man who raped & killed a girl aged 4 in Sanaa.

I actually think that western punishemt system degraded after capital punisment was prohibited.

4-5 years ago simular thing happened in Serbia when a sicko raped 7 year old girl and killed her, but NO it's 20+ years for him in jail, now the father can feel entitled to pay the taxes that will feed and clothe murderer of his child.

Capital punisment need to be reinstated for these cases.
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>>135617073

They have the best ever anthem in history.
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>>135617398
T..that's not the s..same
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>>135617597
If you don't kill the worst offenders, their genes will sometimes go on. Throughout years these shit nigger tier genes will spread thru the population again. Capital punishment is a moral good.
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>>135610232
I do. He's incompetent enough that he won't fuck Syria as badly as Killary would have
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>>135617073
The stasi did nothing wrong
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>>135617487
This guy is a snake.
TFU
>>135617531
wut?
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>>135617597
Agreed.
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>>135617714
Only thing protecting world from another US chimpout is the fact that the only three countries we want to invade are wise to kikes tricks and heavily defended
Iran, Syria and NK
Also Russia but they only have to worry about a color revolution
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>>135617597
You can thank Italy for that, always been the biggest advocate of death penalty abolition
>tfw no one has been executed in Tuscany since the 18th century (K of Italy kept preexisting laws of preunitary states in place in some cases)
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>>135617597
We also got rid of hanging due to religious reasons
But still give life time sentence constantly
Waste of money
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>>135617898
Whoops
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>>135617835
Is it because of religion and the pope say murder is bad?
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>The Syrian army controls several hills and highlands and the villages of "Ghanem Ali" and "Jubaila" and "Rabieh"
Not quite sure if the rest of the villages are included or not, but here's the villages confirmed under control:
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.792754&lon=39.306679&z=13&m=b&gz=0;392508029;357612790;8583;608491;0;593180;0;472073;24032;437269;252342;321709;260925;321709;418853;419170;678062;430308;940704;282720;956153;282720;947570;132320;959587;122571;1347541;64073;1460838;201953;1462554;200561;1730346;118392;1718330;0;1720046;0
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>IS Khorasan has just claimed inghimasi attack on the Iraqi embassy in Kabul #Afghanistan
https://twitter.com/SaladinAlDronni/status/891934313633259520
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>>135617960
mainly because of enlightenment ideas spreading in the case of Tuscany (the same author that the US founders read about the right of bearing arms btw, to this author the the right to defend yourself + more education for the public + prompt judgements + the state can't have the power to take lives had sense only together)
then the king had it abolished for all of italy in 1890, then when he got killed by an anarchist in 1900 they couldn't even condemn him to death
fascism reinstated it but actually condemned only a couple dozens of people in 20 years
then after fascism it was abolished again
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Flashback monday:
>2015: The capture of Hulayhilah
https://archive.org/details/jkjlasd_ad
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.770595&lon=38.744187&z=15&m=b
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>>135617960
No. Catholic church as an institution has nothing against death penalty. The main problem are faggots who teach about compassion and forgiveness when it shouldn't be applicable and since everyone is a faggot today, it may seem like it's an official teaching.

The prohibition "Thou shall not kill", was superseded by Exodus 22,18: "Wrongdoers you shall not suffer to live." The argument that evildoers should be allowed to live in the hope that they might be redeemed was rejected by Aquinas as frivolous. If they would not repent in the face of death, it was unreasonable to assume they would ever repent. "How many people are we to allow to be murdered while waiting for the repentance of the wrongdoer?", he asked, rhetorically. Using the death penalty for revenge, or retribution is a violation of natural moral law, though.
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>>135618334
>fascism didn't kill that many people
I'm always surprised when reading wiki articles of leftists how many escaped or were released from Gestapo custody or survived the whole war in KZ
I actually hope Assad is killing prisoners
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>>135618637
You could also go the French route, also known as "Kill them. For the Lord knows those that are His own."
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>>135614764
>this is what the burgershart believes
i-i stand with israel amirite fellow christians ?
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sorry to bother you guys but i don't have time to stick around today so if you could give me some infos on any new advancement on
-succnah
-DeZ
-S. raqqa CS
-Salami front
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Fingers crossed for S U C C N A H today
otherwise my prediction of Suknah by the end of the month will be wrong and I'll have to end myself.
>captcha asks for buses
>Hez busing HTS out of Arsal as we type
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>>135617487
>tfw future sadrist vs khomenist clash is inevitable
shia dogs btfo
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>>135617487
Is that a shiite Paul Krugman?
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>>135615131
christcucks wont survive in the long term, we have a long memory and traitors will be first to go
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>>135618645
>Fascist Italy
>Nazi Germany
only one of these was fascist m80
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>>135617960
Found the main guy influencing these ideas, was Cesare Beccaria, there's even his main book in wikisource
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/An_Essay_on_Crimes_and_Punishments
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>>135619168
nuffin
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>>135619401
its all the same garbage at the end of the day t b h
just more blind utopianism and totalitarianism
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>>135619483
not eve ma'adan ?
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>>135610232
I'm Indifferent, but disappointed in him
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>>135619702
Not.
Even.
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>>135619483
some of the euphrates gainz were confirmed,right?
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>>135619702
This is the latest map doc and its 12 hours old now see>>135614675
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>>135619401
Dunce basically created fascism
so Italy was surely fascist
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>>135619729
>>135619803
well
and here i thought we'd at least get succnah for last week
thanks anyways
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>>135619648
uhm, no, sweetie.
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>>135619829
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>>135619957
uhh yeah it basically is
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>ISIS is besieged in Zour Shamr, Al-Sabkha, Shuraida, Al-Jibli, Rahbi,
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>>135617397
he's on 95 posts right now
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>>135615053
Yo, fat bitch kept being flaky about dates so I'm just not going to bother.
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>>135620182
Now that's some dedicated shilling.
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>>135620061
According to Hassan, all those villages are captured:
>After fierce battles with IS, Syrian Army & allies capture Ghanem Ali, Jubayla, al-Rabiyah and reach the Euphrates River south of Raqqa
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>>135620058
> implying there's anything wrong with totalitarianism or Mussolini's fascism
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>>135620642
>implying there's anything wrong with totalitarianism
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>>135620182
The fuck is driving him?
Old fashioned communist zeal or something else?
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>>135620825
totalitarianism>individualism
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>>135620825
desu there is
Authoritarianism is where it's at.
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>>135620825
But you admit there's nothing wrong with Mussolini's fascism?
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>>135620867
Why don't you become a slave whilst you're at it? Or do you specifically want it to be the government's cock stretching your ass out?
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>>135620058
>>135620642
>>135620825

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdP_eTIVuk
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>>135620642
>>135620874
>>135620867
my family is ex-yugo
totalitarianism isnt a fun way to live mate my granddad taught me that
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>>135620903
>But you admit there's nothing wrong with Mussolini's fascism?
>retards in charge
>go to war
>lose war
>system collapses
>Mussolini hangs
Yeah, I'd say there's something pretty wrong with it.
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>>135620960
>externalities that are completely irrelevant to the system itself

I might not agree with fascism but kys brainlet
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>>135620931
did it ever occur to you that the problem was gommunism and not totalitarianism ?
of all ex nazi germany citizen's testimonies i've read, no one complains about the state (jews not included)
the only things they didn't like was the war, the rest they enjoyed it at worst and loved it at best
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>>135620917
???
that's communism that makes you a slave, not totalitarianism
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>>135621030
He was talking about Mussolini's fascism specifically though. I assumed he meant the specific system in Italy, which ended up shitting itself and collapsing because of retarded leadership.
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>>135621107
again that's not the system but the leadership
if italy was a democracy the generals wouldn't have become efficient magically
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>>135621062
Totalitarianism doesn't differ from communism or any other utopian insanity because it thinks it can just kill off anyone who's undesirable in the utopia. It's a modernist system.

Authoritarianism, on the other hand, bans really undesirable things in public and limits promotion for those who are not exemplars of morality and good public behavior. It knows end state is impossible and the best that you can do is encourage acting in sync with natural law.
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>>135621107
Mussolini's mistake was tying himself to Germany. But hadn't he done that he might've gotten fucked by the Germans instead of the Allies. Italy was in a tough position regardless of leadership.

Had he managed to stay out of the war somehow (doubtful) he could've remained in power as long as Franco or Salazar.
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>>135621104
>that's communism that makes you a slave
Not real communism. Countries that just make the attempt always tend to stop at the totalitarian / authoritarian stage of societal development, because why in the living fuck would the leadership share power?
>not totalitarianism
If the leaders in a totalitarian system want to make you a slave, they can. That's the main problem with the concentration of power, there's absolutely no guarantee for the leaders to be anything but power-hungry despots. Just take a look at the current political elite. Those are the same people who'd strive to be in charge in a totalitarian system as well.
>>135621194
>again that's not the system but the leadership
And a totalitarian system allows the leadership far too much control and no effective way of deposing them, should they be inept or wicked.
>if italy was a democracy the generals wouldn't have become efficient magically
If Italy was a liberal democracy, it probably would not have joined up with Nazi Germany and went to war.
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So ummmm. Sukhnah or Ma'adan first?
My money is on Sukhnah today.
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Watch out bigots!
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>>135621062
>did it ever occur to you that the problem was gommunism and not totalitarianism ?
no i think its totalitarianism in general
even if a dictatorship starts with ideological motives it eventually just devolves into a bland centrist totalitarian system
>of all ex nazi germany citizen's testimonies i've read, no one complains about the state (jews not included)
i like that
"no one complained except the ones who did complain but their not included so its ok"
even if NS managed to make the german people happ short term it likel would hae devolved long term anhow
even if Hitler was a pure ideologue once he died his lieutenants would take over and the devolution would begin
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>>135621395
I expected the Sukhnah assault to already have begun. Maybe we'll be getting news on it in a few hours.
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>>135621324
>Not real communism
really nigga
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>>135621461
Inshallah
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>>135621438
>i like that
>"no one complained except the ones who did complain but their not included so its ok
but is there a system where everyone is happy ?
you say that as if it's unique to totalitarianism
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>>135621476
>really nigga
Yes, really. What country has been genuinely communistic and not just some brand of state-socialism? I genuinely would like to know.

>>135621551
>but is there a system where everyone is happy ?
>you say that as if it's unique to totalitarianism
In other systems you don't get tortured and killed for being unhappy.
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All of you who think a totalitarian system would be swell, how would you feel about living in a country where Hillary Clinton and a bunch of neocons have absolute control over everything?
Is that what you want?
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>>135621551
>but is there a system where everyone is happy ?
no
i dont believe u can have a system where everyone is happy
the most u can likely do is to have a social-democratic state which uses state measures to lift standard of living and decrease human suffering to manageable levels
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>>135621603
>Yes, really. What country has been genuinely communistic and not just some brand of state-socialism? I genuinely would like to know.
is it even achievable in the first place ?

>In other systems you don't get tortured and killed for being unhappy.
is everyone enjoying their situation today in europe ?
they have the power to change the system in their hands yet the discontent is present
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>>135621763
>Hillary Clinton and a bunch of neocons have absolute control over everything?
America?
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>>135621786
but you'd still get people complaining about the shortcomings of the system
so why are you saying "no one complained except the ones who did complain but their not included so its ok"
as if it's an argument against totalitarianism when is still the case for all systems ?
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>>135620854
>The fuck is driving him?
No idea, he seems genuinely butthurt
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>>135621786
There is literally nothing wrong with human suffering. What a good culture, civilization, religion and state need to do is provide meaning to suffering and an absolute goal to strive for. This is something that can't exist in a social democracy and the reason why social democracy is slow decay into culture less savagery. Even a totalitarian system, with all its madness, is better than that by default.
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>>135621818
>is it even achievable in the first place ?
I suppose, but to actually function it would either have to exist in total isolation from the outside world, or have the entire world be communistic. The latter is what international socialism is all about.
>is everyone enjoying their situation today in europe ?
No, of course not, but I can freely discuss how much I abhor the European union and how corrupt its leadership is, without a bunch of security police busting down my door and burning my house down after they realise I'm armed. I much prefer it this way.
>they have the power to change the system in their hands yet the discontent is present
And there's no reason to think why totalitarian leaders would be any different.
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hurr durr
>>
xD
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>>135621898
>but you'd still get people complaining about the shortcomings of the system
i know i was just pointing out how statistically that method would be best fo ensuring a standard of living and keeping general dissent within society low

>>135621948
look mate we are just going to have to agree to disagree i really dont think we are going to find common ground on this topic
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>>135621763
>implying all totaliarian systems are the same
you know, the nordic welfare state is quite totalitarian in the sense that the state is present everywhere in every aspect of life from the cradle to the grave. also it's tripartite economic arbitration between workers, employers and the state is close to fascist corporatism. some aspects of fascist italy were in fact copied by nordic social democracies, labour courts being one such aspect.
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>>135621259
what differences do you see between authoritarianism and totalitarianism ?
both would suppress any vocal opposition
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>>135622302
Except that the politicians are elected, the powers are separated and the political leadership do not have unequivocable power over the state.
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>>135622268
>we are just going to have to agree to disagree
i don't think so tovarish
:^)
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>>135610232
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I keep returning to the question: Once Sukhnah is taken, will ISIS withdraw from Hama/Homs?
The pincer towards mt. Bishri will quickly finish the kotel.
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>>135622485
>I keep returning to the question: Once Sukhnah is taken, will ISIS withdraw from Hama/Homs?
No. Too much ground, good to fight in and there's a mountain in the way. Better to stay and fight than to try to run through half the country to link up with DeZ
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>>135612200
Tiger's such an alpha male everyone's homo for him.
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>الجيش السوري يسيطر على عدد من النقاط الحاكمة جنوب شرق بلدة أثريا في ريف #حماه الشرقي باتجاه مواقع ونقاط تنظيم داعش في "وداي حصية"
>The Syrian army controls a number of ruling points southeast of the town of Athria in the eastern countryside of Hama towards the sites and points of organization calling in "
>ruling points southeast of Ithriya
Anymore info that google translate fucked up?
>>135622585
fug
Cleaning that mess up will take quite some time...
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>>135622319
Lets take fags for example.
Totalitarian system will kill all gays and the secret police will search for them actively to purge undesirables.
Authoritarian system will not tolerate public displays of faggotry, but won't actively search for fags private in their bedrooms, which may or may not be allowed.

Another way of differentiating between them is that social and economic institutions in totalitarianism are in complete regulation by the state, while in authoritarian systems they enjoy various levels of autonomy.
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>>135622770
>Cleaning that mess up will take quite some time...
I wouldn't wonder if it's the last piece of ISIS soil in Syria.
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>>135622811
i see
but why do you see hunting the opposition (instead of just suppressing their voice) as bad ?
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>>135622831
I think they'll clean it up before going to DeZ.
as per this quote:
>According to a senior military source, the Syrian Army does not want to besiege ISIL by advancing further south towards Deir Ezzor; instead, they want to forces the terrorist group to retreat from central Syria to the aforementioned province.
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>“Until we reach our beloved Deir Ezzor,” zero hour approaches for pro-Syria forces storming of Sukhnah
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:35 A.M.) – According to to Syrian Arab Army (SAA) commander Major General Mohammad Khaddour, zero hour is approaching for the final storming of al-Sukhnah town in eastern Homs.

Despite achieving virtual fire control over al-Sukhnah several days ago, the SAA and its allies have been met with ferocious ISIS resistance which has served to delay the town’s initially assumed liberation period.

In any case, according to the major general, all the necessary preparations for al-Sukhnah’s liberation are now completed. Heavy weapons including field guns, mortars and machines guns of different calibers have been moved into place and ranged, the key hilltops overlooking the planned approach routes to the town have been secured, storming troops and their pickups have been assembled at their launching points and all of the necessary pre-assault reconnaissance duties have been carried out.

In his statement, Mohammad Khaddour said that he welcomed all those who wished to partake in the final assault to enter al-Sukhnah. Moreover, he placed great emphasis on the role the ‘Euphrates Hawks’ pro-government tribal fighter group will specifically be playing in this operation.

“We have promised ourselves to progress in this operation until we reach our beloved Deir Ezzor,” the major general said.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/reach-beloved-deir-ezzor-zero-hour-approaches-pro-syria-forces-storming-sukhnah/
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What will happen first, DeZ being reached and cleared or Raqqa being cleared?
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>>135622998
Oh. Are they trying to break the longest siege record or something?
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>>135622999
H Y P E
Y
P
E
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>>135617254
>>135617321
>>135617597
>Da Rapist name was Mohammed Mujahid Maghrebi.
>(((Maghrebi)))
Is he The Missing Maghrebois ?
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>>135623118
Pic.
4 yo girl and Rapist
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>>135623118
No, our Maghrebois shitposter is dead. RIP in peace.
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>>135623068
The ball is in their court.
DeZ isn't exactly being threatened anymore and shortening up that horrific frontline would release a shitton of troops.
>>135623118
ROFL
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>>135623222
Well, he is now.
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>>135622999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItjjWECjD_M
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>>135622990
I'm all for a capital punishment gay purge from anyone who ever marched, but afterwards I'd leave it alone. I think there always needs to be at least a bit of pragmatism among rulers. Otherwise you descend into a purity spiral and only the most rabid men end up at the top, calling others not believing hard enough. This leads to tyranny. Because society and state are so close together, it entails populism, which only enhances the problem. I believe that if fascism and national-socialism were left to develop, in 50 years they'd be just as deluded as communism. Muh perfect German race and what not. You end up with ideology before truth.

Authoritarian systems keep people generally apolitical because they're not part of the power structure. This is the reason why freedom of speech - beyond blasphemy - isn't a problem in authoritarianism, while totalitarianism can't allow it. It's natural to believe we will never completely rid ourselves of undesirables, be they fags, communists, lesser races or whoever. The best we can do without making the whole mode of being in the state one of paranoia and secret police is to suppress it in public and guide people by royal example. Most monarchies in the past were authoritarian.
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>>135612200
Sexy
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>>135623481
thank
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What is this
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>>135623540
a thumbnail.
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Why hello there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLc2QqUdDS4
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>>135623540
A trench or a tunnel, probably.
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>>135623532
why does he release such compromising pictures ?
wouldn't that cause dissent amongst SAA ?
even if they're not jihadis, homosexuality is seen as degeneracy in it's purest form in ME mindset
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>>135619353
Muritards think atheism = paganism.

>>135619401
The Roman Empire was technically fascist as well.
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>>135623637
No, the admin is just too lazy to create two individual pockets.
>>135623671
Some say it's just arab intimacy and not homosexy. Personally i don't know what to believe.
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>>135610232
support is a strong word lad
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>>135623810
nah mate that's not intimacy i can guarantee
the eyebrows trimmed, the clean shaved beard, the tight and trendy t-shirt
trust me that has nothing to do with arab intimacy
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>>135623671
FSA spread propaganda that Suheil is gay, Suheil spreads /pol/-tier troll counter-propaganda by making semi-homoerotic pics.

>>135623404
Croatia knows his shit.
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>>135623810
Tiger transcends simple gayness, he is an ultimate expression of universal love in a beautiful human body. When Tiger is making love, Moon itself comes out from the clouds to look at this sacred act. His semen is potent enough to populate whole continents and his manhood is a marvel to behold. Do not presume Tiger to be just a run of the mill gay, or you risk angering the very Cosmos that gave birth to him.
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>>135612200

That's just a normal arab kiss on the cheek right? Like how some people greet each other in countries by kissing on the cheek.
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>>135623930
>Suheil spreads /pol/-tier troll counter-propaganda by making semi-homoerotic pics.
any sauce on the fact that it's voluntary ?
also
wouldn't that play against him to confirm this ?
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>>135623963
Y-yeah.
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Starting basic training in the military tomorrow, lads. I hope my future fellow soldiers will enjoy my dank /sg/ memes.
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>>135610232

Since as he stopped funding fighters who fight against Assad a little bit, but we know that it is the CIA who run the show and they don't bow to any President.
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>>135623222
>>135623240
he was Arrested on 2 july 2017
>Based Khat
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>>135623996
Not on my part. You gotta ask the true /sg/ veterans. I've been around for only 5 months now.
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>>135619789
Yes, according to tweets from SAA guys, that is.
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>>135623963
Well it was considered normal to fuck boys in some places during certain periods of history.
Doesn't make is less gay.
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>>135624173
"It's not gay if you're the one doing the fucking"
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>>135624173

There is a big difference between kissing someone on the cheek as you greet them to sodomizing them, all the countries I've gone in Europe it's only females that ever kiss you on the cheek, 2 or 3 times, I've never had a man do it to me.
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>>135623963
no
the arab kiss is indirect (cheek to cheek) that's not a regular friendly kiss
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>>135624125
what is an actual Albanians opinion on pic related?
was he really as bad/insane as everyone claims?
in retrospect was he better or worse then the gov now?
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>>135623963

In this pic

>>135623532

He has his arm wrapped around Suheils
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Suheil is gay/bi, so what?
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>>135624220
This. In Graeco-Roman culture it was considered the manliest thing to have a wife and kids plus lovers of both genders whom you fucked. Second least manly thing was to suck a man's dick. Least manly thing was to lick a girl's cunt.
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>>135624323
Id rather lick a pussy than getting a dick shoved up my throat 2bh
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>>135623918
I mean, to me he clearly looks like a massive buttfucker in his prime. Maybe he's just oblivious to the fact, he seems autistic anyways.
Doesn't matter to me, he fucks jihadis up good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iao6KHZu208
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>>135624034
Noice. post pics if possible
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>>135624317

Could just be an awkward way of trying to put his arm around his shoulder.
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Another /Suheil Gay/? thread again...
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>>135624385

Enjoy HPV
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>>135624408
i just don't understand why he makes it public, bad PR for Assad
i mean even SDF had to silence the claims that they had a gay unit fighting, so why would SAA fuck their reputation?
also
wasn't he married and had a child ? what happened ?
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>>135624298
>what is an actual Albanians opinion on pic related?
Most think he was bad, some love him with all his heart, some (incl. me and family) hate him with all his heart.

>was he really as bad/insane as everyone claims?
Yes. When ordering deaths of political 'opponents' (a.k.a mostly other commies that did not worship the ground he walked on) he got pretty creative. One example was "decorate [war hero's name here] with a bullet in the head".

>in retrospect was he better or worse then the gov now?
If we take in consideration the economic and low criminality part only, he was better during the first 10-15 years and worse the last 30-35 years. When it comes to personal freedoms he was 100% worse, no question.
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>>135624549
>having sex with diseased people
sad life you have my dude
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>>135617834
> Also Russia but they only have to worry about a color revolution

Revolution and anarchy in a country that has nuclear weapons

This you have to worry about.
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>>135624590

That's not what it is, you just get oral cancer from giving the ol' lickeroo too much.
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>>135624593
I want it to rape her with its gun.
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>>135624551
Don't ask me...
Having a cover-marriage is normal for fags in countries where homosex is shunned.
Maybe he's bi? i dunno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7-0zyzdbik
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>>135623532
Why do his eyes look photoshopped onto his head?
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>>135624593
Thats how imagine a avg in Siberia to look like
More drunk men as well
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>>135624627
>you just get oral cancer from giving the ol' lickeroo too much
t. burger edukashun
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>>135624590
Many who are sexually active have HPV. Thing is, the virus is by itself so harmless most get it and the body fights it off without even understanding it. Thing is, if you have a genetic predisposition for oral or throat cancer, having HPV may cause it.
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>>135624698

How do you get HPV in the mouth?
There are more than 100 types of HPV, and around 15 are associated with cancers. These 15 are known as high-risk HPV types.
The types of HPV found in the mouth are almost entirely sexually transmitted, so it's likely that oral sex is the primary route of getting them. The high-risk HPV types are also passed on through vaginal and anal sex, and are linked to:
cervical cancer
vulval and vaginal cancer
anal cancer
penile cancer
laryngeal cancer
tonsil cancer
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>>135624323
This. The ancients were so much more redpilled on sexuality than modern people. They didn't even use words for hetero/homosexuality, they only differentiated masculine/dominant and feminine/submissive sides of sexuality.

I actually think it's one of the most amusing occurrences of our time how the most elite commander in Syria is such a homoerotic twink-fucker (and totally manly while doing it!)
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>>135624698
Ever heard of HPV?
>diaspora education
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>>135624670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g
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>>135624549
You can get HPV just as easily from dicks.
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>>135624715
>Many who are sexually active have HPV
depends on the region
>the body fights it off without even understanding it
the body fights every foreign object no matter what
>Thing is, if you have a genetic predisposition for oral or throat cancer, having HPV may cause it
correct
that's better than the "cunnilingus gives cancer" type of pseudoscience
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>>135624566
does it make u angry at all that some commies in Turkey and spain fighting in syria unironicall defend him read all the books he wrote and base their ideas off of his?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Freedom_Battalion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist%E2%80%93Leninist_Communist_Party_(Turkey)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist-Leninist_Party_(Communist_Reconstruction)
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>>135619789
>reaction image
>yet not rectangular
>png
>758 KB
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>>135624653
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>>135624549
You-you understand that HPVz does nothing to men, right? Maybe low T men, bit not actual men.
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>>135624982
But it does do things to men as well, just not as often as to women. It can cause anal and penile cancer, though rarely.
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>>135624933
level 99 MS paint mate
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>>135624798
>>135624798
IME homos are either girly twinks less manly than a 5 year old girl or MMA fighter-tier manly. Hell, according to UFC's Anderson Silva many UFC fighters are closeted gays.

>>135624904
Hearing this for the first time. Have not read his books.
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>>135624782
>How do you get HPV in the mouth?
first it doesn't need to be with mouth contact, anymucous membrane is enough (example from dick without using a condom)
secondly the way you said it lead me to think that you implied that licking pussy even from a non infected person gives you cancer

>>135624811
re read what he said
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>come back to /sg/ after a brief absence
>main topic is disease of the mouth and genitals \
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>>135624847

Good job I don't put dicks in my mouth either.
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>>135625086
Since Vlaamse friet is so tasty I will let it slide this time.
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>>135625142
>re read what he said
I didn't take it literally, what with the ol' lickaroo and all.
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>>135625242
he meant if you stick your dick in a diseased vagina without condoms
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>>135625047
Poland is off for a week
he said he is out vacationing or something
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baking if no one is
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>>135625292

Good job I have a dog that can smell cancer and I make sure he has a good sniff before I go anywhere near her.
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>>135625298
Thanks teabro
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Anyone Baking ?
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>>135625112
>Have not read his books.
no point reading em t b h
it basicall boils down to
>"all the shortcomings of my leadership were not my fault it was all china/kruschev/titos fault"
>"stalin didnu nuthin"
>"prauge spring wasnt that bad"
>"fuck tito again b t w"
essentiall just a bunch of diaries of an ego-maniac and a bunch of stalin apolegetics basicall what u would expect
to be fair he did successful predict the reason titos meme country would fall

but yeah his fans call themselves "hoxhaists" and essentially just apologize for him and all his actions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoxhaism
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