>muh roads >muh gays >muh blacks >muh islam >muh

>>135589406
literally blown the fuck out by shapiro. im no fan of either but fuck cenk, race baiting douche bag

>>135589406
Turk roach was absolutely BTFO

>>135589406
muh pipe uterus

>>135589782
>>135589852

how about when he called the entire audience uneducated? classsic liberal move

>>135589406
MUH SOUTHERN STRATEGY

File: 1500600999590.png (586KB, 650x1350px) Image search: [Google]

586KB, 650x1350px

>>135589406
>spends most of the time smugly looking down on his opponent
>"google, look it up"
>very few actual arguments
>"muh big government/small government
>"if you're dumb you won't get this but..."
clearly he is the pinnacle of thought and reason

File: 1501465265841.jpg (4KB, 280x160px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 280x160px

>>135589406
EQUALITY, LOOK IT UP NERDS! USA! USA! USA!

>>135590069
How do you think he will try to justify this back on TYT?

>>135589406
>Ben: so the banks invest expecting money back Cenk, they aren't just holding the money, they need to make more money
>Cenk: so banks, here's how a bank works, they take your money and they want money back so they invest it, HERES WHAT THEY DONT DO, THEY SHOULDNT TAKE YOUR MONEY AND PUT IT INTO PROGRAMS IN WHICH THEY MAKE MONEY ON IT THIS IS AMERICA
>booooooooo
I loved this debate

>>135590069
His Hillary moment - what a fat fuck

>>135589406
Yet these arguments were enough to BTFO Ben

>>135590069
He did it multiple times, and suggested people have no idea what google is. Half his arguments were google it.

>>135589406
muh pipes. muh hookers. muh hamburgers

File: 02806502.jpg (15KB, 231x244px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 231x244px

>>135590185
He'll proclaim himself winner and straw man everything shapiro said into oblivion

>Iz called equaltyy nd it's Amerikuhnn n stuff.

Woo woo. Great stuff there Chunk.

>>135590201
No way he said that. lol

>>135589852
>Not googling the FACTS
Just look it up on google you fucking idiot.

>>135590069
the best part of that was the roastie whores cheering for him triggered him into doing it

>only women were screaming/cheering for cenk the entire time because they're stupid subhumans who should be exterminated
>dumb roasties keep screaming to cheer for cenk over stupid stuff constantly the entire time
>cenk is autistic and he thought they were jeering him when it's actually just roastie cheering for him
>insults the entire audience and the roasties continue to scream even more
>he gets further triggered
it was a shit show

>>135589406
I only didn't like how Shapiro didn't say that Trump would win in 2020

>>135590185
that shapiro was "defending big banks" and crony capitalism. and the audience was mean

>>135590203
>>135590279
comparable to the deplorables comment?
the shit he was saying to google you definitely cannot google either

File: cenkmanlet.jpg (34KB, 611x347px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 611x347px

Weird you left out
>muh medicaid for all

Cenk won very easily.
>Shapiro actually defending money in politics and billions of dollars in donations
lmao

>>135589406
The debate was over as soon as Ben called Cenk a whore. By far the best part in the debate and was the strongest point.

>>135589406
>Republicans invented identity politics!

>>135590500
>Cenk won very easily.

kek

>>135589406
Cenk completely blown the fuck out. He didn't bring any facts to the table, just the same old leftist talking points. Shapiro had a response for every point he brought up but Cenk had to change the subject and talk about something else every time it was his turn to refute something Ben said.

>>135590069
This. Instead of explaining a concept he just called everyone stupid for not already knowing it. That's not how a professional debate works nor is that even how a casual debate works, it makes the speaker look extremely foolish if they can't explain a concept they themselves brought up as a tool to win an argument.

>>135589406
liberals are so fucking stupid. I can only think that in his own mind he thinks
>ok I don't know the answer to this, but here this is what I do know and I think I'm right. so what if it's only somewhat relevant, this guy is on the bad guys side and is obviously wrong, even if I don't know why right now

>>135589406
Muh wall muh sodomy muh pedos including the new president very quite possibly muh daughter's ass muh jewish name I hid muh beautiful jewish aipac muh fake wall muh fake everything muh shut the fuck up and fuck right off

>>135590498
Shit Ben is like 5'6-5'7 Cenk is a fucking turbo manlet.

>>135590389
He was talking about supprime loans but the whole debate is Ben explaining the situation in context and what makes sense, and then Cenk explaining how a service works and then getting mad at THE CORPORATIONS, and calling the audience dumb, and getting booed

>>135590343
I guess the simplest answer is the most likely. I mean, cenk isn't known for complexity.

File: cx b.jpg (6KB, 242x250px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 242x250px

>>135590500

MUH PIPES!!!!!!!!

>>135589406
I tuned in for a moment and then tuned it off.
>Ben makes a very well, thought out point about the banks, the government allowing them to do what they want, and so forth. Its long, but really well thought out.
>Cenks first few fucking words are him going "oh no, oh ow, their twisting my arm, oww, ouch" while looking like a complete fucking fool at a serious debate.

I turned it off quickly.

>>135590610
muh gay flag muh love cock muh bait posting muh getting butt fucked and liking it muh le funny contrarian muh le ebin turk roach

>>135590469
it was about 1/20th of the audience. when he got booed (multiple times) he suggested the audience is uneducated

>>135590572
Yes

My other favorite part is when he mouse trapped cenk into the compaign donations thing. Made him look like the biggest hypocrite, ben did a gud job

>>135589406
>emulating trump
>this is cenk's natural face
Nah. If theyre so retarded dont make threads about them

File: hmmmm.png (2MB, 1638x633px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1638x633px

>>135590069
>shitting on a crowd that already hates him
top kek

Cenk, like most of the left, made a bunch of muh feelz arguments that appeal to younglings and women. (all that "YASSS SLAYY WOOO!!!" screeching from the leftist cunts in the crowd) This is why women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>135590498
TRIG MASTERS DETERMINE HIS HEIGHT

>>135590749
Muh vagina muh defiled "penis" muh lies muh frogs

>>135590495
>the audience was mean

damn roachiphobes... hating roaches just because they look a little different.

>How will Democrats win in 2020?
>YOU'RE RACIST, GOOGLE IT!! USA USA USA!!

>>135590835
stay OUT of my uterus

>>135590469
Shaming and insults are considered arguments to roasties

>>135590910
Stop circumcising people for eve's problems and the kike homophobes who organise thru your gender

>>135590838
I think he is rounder than tall.

>>135590871
his definition of "mean" is disagreeing

>>135590873
That was literally Cenk's entire debate.

"GOOGEL ITT"

>>135590999
>trump is nice

>>135590572
They both had responses for each other. You'd think people would grow up and realize these types of debates dont have a real winner. Its always people assuming their favorite did better. Although Ben's a much better debater, purely as a speaker, not that he was objectively more factual.

>>135590991
Your flag was literally invented by a communist Jew from San Francisco.

>>135590864
muh faggot muh *gargles* thicc *slurps* cock muh gay death muh having the mind and intellect of a woman muh dudes assholes

>>135589406
hahaha!

>>135591066
Nope. Sign of the covenant. Deliverance

>>135590873

This is why Democrats will literally never win another presidential election.

Nobody wants to be called racist for simple disagreements for 4 long years.

File: vbnnbv.png (775KB, 999x945px) Image search: [Google]

775KB, 999x945px

>>135590871
roach lives matter

Damn, Cenk's IQ is quite low.
He failed to even counter argue against the jew on money on politics.

Cenk Uygur: The Definitive Collection
>Hookers
>Roads
>Pipes
>GOOGLE IT
>88
>Uterus
>Soros
>OF COURSE
>Racist White Voters
>Identity Politics
>Logic
>Look It Up
>USA USA USA
>EQUALITY FOR ALL OF US

File: manletonthebeach.jpg (77KB, 717x960px) Image search: [Google]

77KB, 717x960px

>>135590498
The best thing I got from this debate is that Cenk is even more of a manlet than Ben Shapiro. I honestly had no idea.

>>135591113
>more Jew things

Chunk Wigger needs to fucking die already.

>>135591080
>mind of a woman
>shuns women while you fuck em and coat your womany "manhood" and self in their estrogen and bread gashes with snot inside

The California medicare proposition failure and Ben's jew skills at sniffing out TYT's financials were the highlights of the debate. The rest was just a rat and roach screaming incomprehensible english at each other.

>>135591244
>>shuns women

Because you are one. Woman hate each other and backstab each other into oblivion

>>135591207
I'm Christian. Who wasn't one. How was the forest? Grow any teeth yet or only doing toothjobs and sideways leg mouths with teeth? Eh cletus?

File: 8230453186_8114b92e0e_b.jpg (121KB, 505x792px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 505x792px

>>135591150
fuck, this, seriously. I hate the jew but I hate the socialist roach even more. The only thing I took away from all of this is that they are both manlets

File: kekd.gif (3MB, 355x201px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 355x201px

>>135591127
RLM 4 lyfe

File: cenk the hooker 1.png (1MB, 948x715px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 948x715px

cenk got btfo

>>135591244
>>shuns women while you fuck em and coat your womany "manhood" and self in their estrogen and bread gashes with snot inside

It's called being a man and breeding you genetic dead end, kys!!!

>>135591147
You forgot
>Small government isn't real
>LMAO WEED
>first word in debate is BULLSHIT
to name a few

>>135591306
Ok plato. Ill be over here being a man. Doing man stuff. Maybe getting in the 144,000. You can keep emulating the fall and not functioning without your precious womanhood and feminism

>>135591147
>88

Was he /our guy/ this whole time??

>>135591147
>Crowd chanting USA USA before debate
>Cenk chanting USA
>Silence
Beautiful

File: download.jpg (10KB, 242x209px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 242x209px

muh uterus

>>135591339
Dude, why are you calling a Scotts-German like me inbred? You leftist fags are the ones who demanding more actual inbreds, muslims, to come here by the millions.

>>135589406
I think Cenk won. It's sad the none of you idiots want free education and health care. America really does have an education problem because the rest of the first world knows Cenk won.

Ben to Cenk "are you a whore"?
Ben reverts from on position to another but it's hard to notice because he talks so fast.
Also, Ben supports the jewish elitest narrative and you goys are truly falling for it

SO MUCH FOR THE REDPILL.

>>135591442
>Maybe getting in the 144,000

Dude's asses?

>>135591150
Everyone in that picture is deformed

>>135591402
Hagar. Ronaldo. New fake eggs from males. Fake wombs. You hate your own gender and your life. I make vagina cheaper for you. Go use them. Even though you dont care it says woe to them bearing children when Christ returns. Half this place is pagan and calls these things "jewish" anyways. The frog is satanic. This site started as pedo shit

>>135591549
>It's sad the none of you idiots want free education and health care.

kys retard

File: Book5Chapter5f.jpg (27KB, 392x369px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 392x369px

i'm going to have to watch this debate i guess

>>135589406
The iraq war was $214 billion/yr..
Currently there are 16 million college students with an average cost of $33,480/year..
That's $535,680,000,000.
That's 535 BILLION dollars for only the CURRENT college students to attend for ONE YEAR. The cost to pay for every student to attend college right now is DOUBLE the cost of the Iraq war.

Is Cenk retarded?

>>135591600
Holy fuck just fucking kill yourself you autistic fag

File: 1498401692201.gif (2MB, 460x259px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 460x259px

>>135591549
>free

>>135591564
Read what it says about that you stupid cunt. And men can do that to their wives. It's not what is sodomy. But not to get in the 144,000

>>135591666
Liberals can only win when they spout out bullshit numbers and pray that the audience doesn't ACTUALLY google them, even when he suggests it.

>>135591747
No one cares dumb fuck, fuck off

>>135591296
I just wish Ben would talk slower and louder. The crowd was too dumb to process his words fast enough. They leftcunts all YASSSS'd for Cenk because he talked louder and slower, and appealed to emotion.

>>135591666

I wonder what universities would charge if they were guaranteed to be 100% subsidized for all college students.

Any one have a link to This? I didn't care but there's a lot of threads and I'm curious.

>>135591720
Thats what i thought. Deficient in his daily requirement of pussyjuice so he dies on the floor and slowly and meekly tells me to kill myself. Keep being a kikes jewish slave. Fuck you and get an education. Fucking larping. All lies from peterson on down. Babylon will pay for her sins. Nothing is new under the sun. Serpent seed serpent seed serpent seed

>>135589406
>Attacking the audience
This gets one thrown out or causes a severe deduction of points at every other debate.

File: 1474498496418.png (116KB, 632x473px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 632x473px

>>135589406
hello ben

>>135591894
>Thats what i thought

That you're a faggot? End yourself

>>135591056
Even TYT fans know Cenk is a shit debator

>>135591666
Remove private enrollment and grad students. That and we should also work to drive costs down, schools are becoming too bureaucratic and business like at once. They spend way too much on trying to hook students and on unnecessary positions. The average community college is a good bar of how much should be spent on the first 2 years. Once you account for all of that, its actually very feasible to have "free college".

>>135591806
You cant just leave well enough alone. Youre allowed to lie like a kike. Ill punch your fucken head, metaphorically, right the fuck back. Cindy.

>>135591549
>free
stopped reading right there

>>135589406
Where's the link? Just find it on YT?

File: 84230918420984098.jpg (25KB, 400x386px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 400x386px

>>135591894
You can't even type coherently you dumb fuck. Learn how to structure a sentence if you want to be taken seriously

>>135590498
What a retarded debate.

>Medicaid
>"what's the appropriate tax rate to implement that"
>*talking about 70-90 percent tax rate in the 50s *
>'So you want a tax rate that high?'
>*mumble mumble* 'WE NEED A BALANCE OFCOURSE!'

File: cenk.jpg (9KB, 225x225px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 225x225px

>USA!

*SLAMS HAND ON PODIUM*

>USA!

*SLAMS HAND ON PODIUM*

>USA!

*SLAMS HAND ON PODIUM*

>USA!

*SLAMS HAND ON PODIUM*

>USA!

*SLAMS HAND ON PODIUM*

>USA!

*SLAMS HAND ON PODIUM*

>>135591988
Fuck off retard

this guy is literally retarded

>>135591960
Thats not what you said daisy. Go blow freud. I refuse to believe everybody is so scared of dicks or isnt a half a fag. Youre a serpent and defiled. Dish? And take

>>135591549
Free education and healthcare and all I need is to give the government 56% of what I earn? Sign me the fuck up!

File: 5'7.png (349KB, 571x347px) Image search: [Google]

349KB, 571x347px

>>135590838
I did the math.

Ben Sharpiro stands at 5'9.

Doing simple trig, I rounded up Cenk's height to be 5'7

Cenk is a 5'7 round manlet with bad posture.

>>135592119
>Go blow freud.

Go fuck a man's ass you stupid faggot

File: smiley2.gif (41KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 250x250px

>>135590500
mfw you un-ironically think this

File: 7f5.jpg (33KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 500x500px

>>135592119

>>135592174
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/687488514259193857?lang=en

File: 1445074865624.png (350KB, 456x524px) Image search: [Google]

350KB, 456x524px

>>135591549
>FREEEEEE

yeah fuck off back to la la land leftypol

File: asian feel.png (140KB, 645x773px) Image search: [Google]

140KB, 645x773px

>>135592128

>tfw perfectly healthy and fully educated before "free" education was available
>still have to give 56% of income to government

t-thanks Elizabeth Warren

>>135590494
He gave Trump A- for his first two weeks.

Ben kept trying to nail Cenk on actual facts and policies like a retarded republican while Cenk was throwing strawmen and non sequiturs while sprinkling in the typical liberal "you're evil"

Basically Cenk won because he was slimy and greasy enough to avoid the actual arguments and Ben didn't throw enough "no you're actually the evil one" at him. The 100% tax rate almost nailed him, but Ben didn't push it hard enough.

>>135592174
and that's only if ben doesn't fudge his numbers a bit, he could be 5'8''

>>135591549
Shapiro's argument mainly rested on Jewish banking loans.

Cenk had terrible arguments which devolved into classic liberal lying.

>you idiots want free education and health care
Kick out all the spics and nigs and then we can talk.

OF

>>135589406
CENK got owned!

File: IMG_1815.png (225KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

225KB, 500x500px

>>135592183
>organise thru women
>help and support and fuck them like in eden
>support jewish freud; men are shit; never mention them
>i wanna sex him up cuz i dont like any of this shit; but; muh flag
Go have sex with a female red neck. You stink. Find me a diagram for males that relates to this. You wont find it. Simpleton. How come only you can police penis? Adam and steve didnt cause the fall. You did. None of this exists. None of it exists in heaven. People used to be more bisexual and sceptical of women. Is it divide and conquer? Anti white? This idiot board for orange fatty zionists will love it

File: 1501463535020.png (440KB, 645x1260px) Image search: [Google]

440KB, 645x1260px

I'm a huuuuuuuuuuge Cenk fan, but he really BTFO'd himself today.

I can't believe he told the crowd to "google it".

File: alligator smells what the crock is cooking.gif (2MB, 457x321px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 457x321px

>>135592300

>using facts and policies
>retarded

File: 1458105272516.jpg (81KB, 419x480px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 419x480px

>>135592174
Jesus christ look at Cenk's shoes, the heels look more raised than normal too.

>>135592278
Either way, they're both manlets.

>>135592300
>cenk was using strawmen
>"haha! why not a 100% tax huh?! almost got him there!"

File: 1479064397352.webm (2MB, 960x540px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 960x540px

Can someone give me a quick rundown?

>>135592711
>Turk Roach uttlery BTFO

File: 1409026441867.jpg (35KB, 500x396px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 500x396px

>>135589852
Cenk BTFO

>>135592463
If you want to win a public debate then it is retarded. This debate wasn't about deciding policy or trying to dismantle a principle but to show the public who's 'better'.
Statistics and facts don't do shit for crowds, calling the opponent evil does wonders, though.
The only reason Ben didn't get booed is because most of the crowd were actually republican goys, if the audience consisted of apolitical people/moderates or was evenly split he'd most likely lose it.

>>135592711
I'm not going to lie... I thought once it got past the back fat and to the face it was going to be a male. Too many trap posters messing with my mind I guess.

File: 1481179036379.jpg (174KB, 966x1113px) Image search: [Google]

174KB, 966x1113px

>>135592791
That was pretty quick. Thank you anon.

>>135592074
>in the past republicans are southern white racists
>republicans cherry-pick past history to prove their point

>>135591549
>Ben reverts from on position to another but it's hard to notice because he talks so fast.
>Also, Ben supports the jewish elitest narrative and you goys are truly falling for it
THIS. I can't believe pol would get behind a literal neo-con

File: 1501258400375.png (228KB, 506x509px) Image search: [Google]

228KB, 506x509px

>>135592855

It's not just you leaf ana is hideous

File: Tasty.gif (4MB, 328x238px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 328x238px

>>135592803
That's edited right? I don't think I've ever seen a human that hairy before. Disgusting.

>>135589406
muh racists

File: photo (3).jpg (54KB, 374x374px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 374x374px

>>135591379
Hihihihihihi!

>>135590165
>muh banks!

>>135592832
Sure it couldn't have been that Ben dismantled every single one of Cenks arguments, and got him so butt blasted he insulted the audience multiple times.

>>135590069
Not as bad as Ben's' burger comment.

>>135590166
haha the USA chant at the end was pure desperation.

>>135592420
Fuck of edgelord faggot

>>135593070
At least Ben clarified what he meant by the Burger comment

>>135592660
It's a logical extension of Cenks argument, Cenk argued that the economy was doing better because government had more money from taxes, that was his argument. Obviously if you'd give government 100% of your income they economy would be doing even better because it would have even more money.

This actually forces a socialist to explain how economy works because saying somebody should be taxed 70% for the good of people is weaker argument than saying somebody should be taxed 100% for the good of people.

It's the same with minimum wage socialist argument, if getting people $15/hour gives them more moeny to spend and thus kickstart the economy and make it grow then giving them $1000/hour would give them even MORE money to do that.

>>135593070
but hamburgers don't make jobs. the companies that hire people to make hamburgers do. SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS!

But there's a demand for hamburgers, thus causing the market to create a supply to meet those demands! DEMAND SIDE ECONOMICS!!!

Hope somebody makes a "google it" video counting up how many times he used it.

>>135593135
No he didn't. That comment was actually part of (((his))) argument.

File: 1400992559367.jpg (430KB, 1080x763px) Image search: [Google]

430KB, 1080x763px

>>135593070
WHAT DID THAT LITTLE JEWISH MANLET SAY ABOUT BURGERS?!

File: googleit.png (895KB, 1200x675px) Image search: [Google]

895KB, 1200x675px

America is the worst at everything

I missed it, where's the link?

>>135590500
His tribe is making all that money

cant stand either of them, but shapiro is more intelligent. fuck cenk.

File: maxresdefault.jpg (132KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

132KB, 1920x1080px

>>135593330
PAY FOR MY BURGERS

>>135593198
Except when the corporations are creating the demand. It is more like create demand by destroying the middle class to the point where most of the country can only afford to buy cheap shit. Yeah, the (((companies))) sure have your best interests.

>>135590069
I need a link to this NOW!

>>135593173
Nah, Cenk did clarify he was saying despite a high tax rate, the economy didnt slow. That's not the same as saying that the economy boomed because of it. Ben's a good debater and he was the one pulling slick strawmen, taking anything Cenk said and putting it to an extreme.

>>135593307
Yes, he did. He clarified he meant food, by saying specifically burgers.

>>135590069
It takes an uneducated person to boo a speaker at a debate

>>135592711
I kept expecting a trap

>>135593526
You can't create demand, it's up to the individuals to see that their demand is met.

And they do have my best interest, they need to create the best possible product for me to spend my hard earned shekels.

For example, McDonalds vs In-and-Out. In And Out created a superior hamburger product, and McDonalds has not followed suit. So to meet my best interest in finding a tasty hamburger, In And Out created a hamburger that best suited my needs not McDonalds. Thus in and out has my best interests. If a third burger company came out and created an even better hamburger than In And Out, In and Out needs to match the burger or lower the pricing to suit my interest the best they can.

Red Robins does this by using non-price competition such as unlimited French Fries

>>135593897
I think just being on 4chan did this to us. I can't tell anymore.

>>135589406
>muh uterus

>>135593737
No, he meant it in the sense that poor people are shit with money. He was implying that americans cant into being smart and healthy, so it would be stupid to give them more gimmes. The real problem though, is that the middle class has been rammed up the ass by the corporations (and the government) to the point that burgers are the only thing they can afford. Ben has good views on gender politics, but is shit at econ.

File: ghdjbfsvdvb.jpg (28KB, 601x508px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 601x508px

>>135590267
Shapiro got owned by Cenk! These racists got totes DESTROYED! WE WIN!!!!!! The left always wins! Always!

>>135593696
Well if economy didn't slow at 91% tax rate then why would it slow at 100%?
Means even more money for the bottom class.
Once again, you have to actually explain how it benefits rather than just saying "money for the people!"
If your explanation of why not go for 100% is that businesses actually need capital to operate then you're stuck arguing against not lowering it to give them more capital to operate with - I mean after all if corporations and banks are greedy jews who only care about profit then they should reinvest their capital because that generates growth and thus more profit, increased production means bigger supply and thus weaker demand overall.

A socialist assumes that rich people just sit on their money like Scrooge McDuck instead of constantly reinvesting it when it comes back to them.

File: 13162440.jpg (94KB, 732x584px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 732x584px

>>135594140

>>135590950
This is their cavewomen instincts.

>>135593741
Using google isn't education

>>135592174
>>135590498
Is this shooped? I didn't think they made men smaller than Lil Ben

The brown buffalo... more like a fucking groundhog

>>135594385
You're being dense. Everything has its own nuances and context, to extrapolate some extreme scenario from it is disingenuous. Cenk just made a poorly worded, but legitimate statement that high taxes dont automatically mean a slow down of the economy.

File: 353454035.png (259KB, 611x347px) Image search: [Google]

259KB, 611x347px

>>135591147

That failed USA chant was elder god-tier cringe. I almost had to close the tab.

>>135594140
Right, so to your point. In And Out is better, but Mcdonalds is the bigger company.If you know that a certain portion of the population needs low cost altarnatives, than you can lobby congress to pass laws that keep you bottom line in its place economically. Sort of like how walmart makes money off of welfare people. It would be in their interests if people were not educated enough to get jobs to buy better more expensive alternatives.

File: CqZtpouVMAA80Pr.jpg (30KB, 622x494px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 622x494px

>>135590390
Google the armenian genocide, faggot

>>135594692
Yes and Ben took it to the logical conclusion that if increased tax rate doesn't automatically effects the economy then obviously increasing the tax rate to maximum would be most beneficial, would it not?

>>135590498
CENKMATE

File: 1501470207935.png (2MB, 2610x1482px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2610x1482px

>>135594805

File: downloadfile.jpg (78KB, 450x336px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 450x336px

in what fucking reality are we living in when TYT youtard e-celebrities are conducting "debates"?

RETARDSVILLE

>>135595022
Then this becomes an argument on education, not necessarily preying on those less fortunate. In this case, I would agree that education is the equalizer of society. It doesn't matter if education is public, charter, or private. I would agree with you to increase public funding for education, but that's another debate entirely.

>>135589406
ITT nu-pol idolizes a literal Zionist kike

>>135595779
>increase public funding for education
Amerilards spend more money per student on education than most countries yet you still are below 20 countries when it comes to studen performance.
But sure, ramming more money in will SURELY solve the issue.

Slovakia spends roughly half of what you do on student and we still have similar ratings.

>>135595075
That's not logical at all. Think about it for a second. Imagine I said, to the tune of your min wage example, "Well, if lowering it or removing it is better, why not just pay everyone $0?! HUH?!" That's what you and Ben are saying , only in an opposite direction.

>>135589406
Chank Hooker was really making some stupid voices and insults to make points. It was quite disturbing.

File: 1488449627666.jpg (216KB, 800x1040px) Image search: [Google]

216KB, 800x1040px

>>135595500
>become Ana to get out of debating Shapiro
>now have to debate Ann Coulter
politicon 2017 is fucking sweet

>>135596329
We can't help that we have 13% being niggers and 40% being mexicans.

Our 2% of Asians can't bring up the average. And if we're talking about the elites vs elites, Americans actually are better educated or on par with those top education countries.

And money does help. The problem is that the money is spent illproportionally and unwisely spent on garbage like "more inclusive technology", subsidies for charter schools,and a host of other problems.

American schools need to have more class choices available. Instead of the generic math, science, history, english, there needs to be more classes open to all such as auto-shop, or electrician classes, or even simple stuff such as home economics.

>>135596921
But that's a non-argument.
Removing minium wage is not an argument to pay everybody $0, unlike raising it.
Lowering minimum wage merely means that employer is allowed to pay the person less before he is forced to terminate the contract because they're not worth the minimum wage.

Raising the minimum wage means employers HAVE to pay those people the amount state specifies or employ the person illegaly if the business owner doesn't think the work is worth $1000 bucks.

If you're performing a job worth $8 bucks and your employer is paying you $0 dollars then you're unlikely to keep working for them, because then a competitor might come along and offer you $7 pay, unlike when you're doing the same job and the employer is forced to pay you $15 for that job so he instead hires somebody illegaly, cuts the position and re-distributes the workload or buys a machine to do it.

>>135597441
Well then the problem isn't lack of money but how it is spent. You're saying public education needs more funding when it's not needed, if the money is being wasted right now then what makes you think that giving them MORE money wont make them even mroe wasteful?

File: 1500665021804.gif (325KB, 722x720px) Image search: [Google]

325KB, 722x720px

>>135590069

> making the audience turn on him by insulting them

>>135597679
That's true, and I concede to your superior logic and arguments.

File: 1471238314197.jpg (21KB, 540x540px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 540x540px

>>135590498
ive always assumed cenk was a 6' something bear all these years

what the fuck

>>135597877
For some reasons socialists, neocons and neoliberals seem to be winning the politics in US. They say the government is corrupt and wasteful (i.e. spending money incorrectly, like on military instead of healthcare) while at the same time saying that expanding the government will somehow better the situation.
And people gobble it up.

>>135589406
I don't have to educate you

Another leftist elite

>>135594385
>Well if economy didn't slow at 91% tax rate then why would it slow at 100%?
Let's ask the Soviet Union why consolidating capital ends very poorly for businesses not owned by the government
Man that worked out great, didn't it?

>>135595583
Youtube e-celebrities having debates is more productive than everyone living in their hugboxes, refusing to address each other's points unless it's in extremely embarrassing "Response videos" shouted from a soapbox.

>>135597464
You're suffering from cognitive dissonance. When someone is obtuse and applies fallacy to an argument you're in favor of, you can be logical and reason out why its fallacious. When its applied to an stance you don't like, you act like there's nothing wrong with it. Just admit that wasn't a good argument on Ben's part. At least, not a good intellectually honest one, its a great argument if you just wanna "look good".

File: 1501411925718.jpg (142KB, 1024x1024px) Image search: [Google]

142KB, 1024x1024px

>>135592420
>Is it divide and conquer?
And the shill reveals his true intentions

>>135598885
Why? You haven't countered a single one of my arguments nor did you prove that my reasoning is somehow invalid or faulty and instead decided to use personal attacks and assume that people have no free will so if that there's no big brother government looking out for them they'll somehow eat shit willingly.

Stop being a socialist, it's not good for you.

>>135594642
this is not an acceptable counter-argument

>>135589406
real jew vs crypto-jew. ooy vey.

>>135590498
Why do people let this midget yell at them?

>>135591666

>33.5k per YEAR in the US

jesus fucking christ, how?

is housing that bad in the US?

File: 1500591569430.jpg (41KB, 234x216px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 234x216px

>>135590500
kek.. nope

>>135589406
I'm hart core right wing and can't stand liberals or TYT. That being said, Cenk was absolutely correct in his comment on banks taking all this extra money they were given by the central banks and gambling it away in the derivatives market. And it wasn't just the subprime mortgages either. They did it on the futures market and literally lost trillions on oil futures when SA flooded the oil market hoping to destroy American frackers and dropping oil/ barrel price from $140 to $26.

I mean all those contracts they held became literal shit paper and they lost trillions and trillions of dollars. Playing the futures market, even when you do have all the economic signals needed is still nothing more than gambling. And they lost even if they offset it a bit in the copper market.

>>135600478
Banks give out loans to students for univeirsity to every retard who asks for them because they have a guarantee from government that they'll get the money back along with interest, unlike before when a college drop-out meant a net loss for the bank and thus they only issued loans to people who would be able to pay back.

This allows colleges to hike tuiton because they'll keep getting influx of retards no matter the cost.

>>135601085

ben brought up another good point

they need to get rid of useless majors like gender studies. LITERALLY wasted money.

>>135598075
Same. He seemed like a big guy.
>for me

If Ben is 5'9 this makes cenk literally a full head shorter than Shapiro...Cenk Yuger is also wearing a 2 inch heel...it's safe to say cenk is legit 5'2 bahahahahhaha

>>135590498
CENK IS SHORTER THAN BEN
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>135590498
Wtf is this actually real

How can Ben be taller than Cenk

>>135601439
But they won't.
Why would college get rid of a degree that is popular and attracts retards? They can afforod to finance it because they have guaranteed inflwo of people into the degree.

The only reason these things will disappear is when banks find out that they won't get taxpayer money for every gender studies major and thus every person who wants to go study gender studies will have to actually convince the bank that they will be able to pay back what they borrow. This in turn will mean drop in attendance in those courses and universities will be forced to either downsize or compeltely close the departments because they will be a net loss unless they're financed by patrons or some other means.

>>135589406
Cenk: I'm entitled to it
Ben: Banks didn't do nothing

Wow! Polar opposite. Just what everyone need.

>>135601562
This breaks the illusion... You see cenk and imagine him losing his shit and casting a shadow over someone. In reality he is looking up at the person and pounding his fists on the guy's chest.

>>135589406
Man, what a terrible debater this guy is. Can he really be so un-self aware that he thought he could take on Shapiro?

>>135601747

gender studies is like the slot machines at a casino

easy, free money.

>>135601747
Then the government needs to only subsidize the loans that correlate with specific majors only like STEM majors.

>>135589782
Their Mike Brown coverage turned me gay for the British Broadcasting Corporation.

File: CfBs_HpVAAAuMnD.jpg (17KB, 313x313px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 313x313px

>>135592174
There's no way Ben is 5'9", probably more like 5'7"

File: shapiro.jpg (29KB, 466x466px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 466x466px

>>135595275

>>135601979
Or maybe the government doesn't need to subsidize college loans at all unless it is for some specific government position they might need like CIA intelligence analysts or an incentive/reward for veterans like G.I. bill.

If the university doesn't have guaranteed inflow of people thanks to government backing their tuiton then it universities will be forced to actually offer tuiton at a reasonable and competitive price.

File: CQ2GanMUAAAbNnZ.jpg (61KB, 600x800px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 600x800px

OK someone calculate his height based off this

>>135592174
Except ben's not really 5'9"
So subtract 2-3 inches

>>135602331

shaq is 7 foot. a head is what, 1 foot?

he might be 5'2 or so

>>135590498
Is that fucking real? Ben Shapiro is like 4'11...

>>135590500
>Cenk won very easily.
Fucking kek

>>135602278
True

Jenky gogurt BTFO for all time

File: 10.years.later.png (383KB, 640x647px) Image search: [Google]

383KB, 640x647px

>>135590500
Nice try Cenk...

File: 1500875983572.jpg (15KB, 236x295px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 236x295px

>>135602057
Probably more like 5'4

File: 1501475006203.jpg (98KB, 600x800px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 600x800px

>>135602331

File: RTX279LS-1024x720.jpg (147KB, 1024x720px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 1024x720px

>>135602057
Ted's height is listed as 5'10 though and he regularly wears cowboy boots, which give him at least an extra inch.

>>135603301
compare pics of ted to rand he is the same height

honestly shapiro is like 5'2 and cenk is like 4'11 maybe?

File: 1.gif (2MB, 270x180px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 270x180px

>>135598871
> refusing to address each other's points
Which is exactly what I saw with Anna and Cenk 'debates'.
fuck every e-celebrity and msm outlet.

he fucking lost all thought the moment ben called him a prostitute

>>135598238
It's the Left vs Right debacle. Get the people to believe your people are better than the other side and then play back and forth so neither you nor your "opponents" leave office.

File: 1499369664036.jpg (378KB, 1200x889px) Image search: [Google]

378KB, 1200x889px

>>135591496
Lmfao, I loved this.

>>135589406
>mfw i agree with some of the things this faggot says but realize they aren't attainable in a nation full of Mexican immigrants and niggers
If the California healthcare plan debacle didn't prove this to them then there is no saving their party.

File: 1474491439520.jpg (34KB, 584x584px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 584x584px

>>135589406

Is Cenk the pinnacle of Google's artificial intelligence?

>>135603624
Yeah, Commiefornia is a net payer of taxes and they STILL can't afford it, how would the whole of US be able to afford it is beyond me.

>>135590498
That Jew hunch. At least the roach manlet walks upright.

File: C1r--FvXEAAMZ0W.jpg (129KB, 1200x1065px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 1200x1065px

>>135592278
>>135592174
lol this just keeps getting better!>>135589406

>>135603285
OK funny guy

Oh god Cenk is getting destroyed.
>"You can google it"

Jesus Cenk

"Money isn't speech, it's property!"

So if someone took your property without your consent what would you call that, Cenk? Are you saying......taxation is theft?

cenk is such a commie faggot

>>135603922
Your back would be fucked up too if you carried away the goyim's gold coins to the safe everyday.

File: kurds killing railroad roaches.gif (3MB, 480x270px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 480x270px

>>135604503
for the greater good of course!
it's a fact for the 88th time!
roads n pipes n sheit!
google it!

File: 200.gif (2MB, 284x200px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 284x200px

>>135590500
Jesus christ dude. Just stop. He's not your boyfriend so stop acting like it.

Best place to watch the debate?

File: 1477873406365.jpg (59KB, 513x510px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 513x510px

>>135603285
He's like a turkish meatball what the fuck. Gas him now.

>>135590469
I was extremely annoyed at the audience. Screeching shouldn't be allowed during debates.

File: Man debates human search engine.png (283KB, 1999x667px) Image search: [Google]

283KB, 1999x667px

>>135589406
A quick rundown of the debate.

File: IMG_8050.jpg (26KB, 225x225px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 225x225px

>>135604737
>88th time
>ottomans fought with Germans in ww1
>inspired Hitler's "genocide"
Is Cenk, dare I say, /ourguy/

File: IMG_2651.jpg (1MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3264x2448px

I was there. AMA

>>135589406

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiWY0iRLV94

>>135590910
>stay out of my uterus
You want the small pipe or the large pipe?

>>135589406

> synagogues filling that gap

>>135604977
Reminds me of when Hillary at the debates kept telling people to check their website for the facts

>>135605024
How much of a height difference was there really?
Who were the people that cheered for ben and who were the people that cheered for cenk?

>>135590069
TIMESTAMP????????????????

If someone without bias watched it, who would they think won ?

>>135589406
roach btfo

http://www.strawpoll.me/13580862/r

>>135590165
He was still at least better than Hasan Piker who couldn't debate worth crap and tried to cover it up with "I was only pretending to be retarded!"

>>135605446
-Dude. When the first came out, I could have sworn he was shorter than Ben. I think he was slouching, though. He's definitely under 5'9.

-Every Trump supporter was there for Ben. The YT supporters around us were ugly women and old fat angry men.

There was an entire section near the front reserved for The Young Turks.

>>135604947
Right? It was like watch a debate given to a bunch of fuckin' middle schoolers.

>>135590469
> t. homosexual

>>135606180
BETAAAAAAAAAA

My favorite part was when Cenk tried to appeal to the dems by stringing together his argument with some bullshit BLM rhetoric.

that guy's a real card.

>>135605956

just like the election debates

rigged for hillary but she lost.

>>135605956
Was bernie there? Also, when you say ugly women, just how ugly are we talking?

>>135591117
>Democrats will literally never win another presidential election
Yeah... "literally." Dumb fucking twat.

File: faggot.jpg (104KB, 449x443px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 449x443px

>>135589406

>>135606469
Ranging from 2-5, nothing egregious. Nah, but I met Mike Cernovich and Adam Carolla.

>>135592300
Cenk already addressed the 100 percent tax rate thing though. He said the free market works fine for some things, lije sneakers, but sent dependable enough for baseline necessities like roads and healthcare. So the tax rate needs to be high enough to cover the baseline needs fr everyone, then the rest can be disposable income

>>135606699
>Cernovich

Absolutely disgusting.

>>135607006
Eh, nice guy though.

Cenk won the debate. Shapiro could not handle the idea that 30 oher countries do healthcare better than we do so he could only be like, "But. . .but. . .but we do cancer treatment so well!"

Cenk was like, "Yeah, that's one of the only two things the American healthcare system does well, try again."

Shapiro very quickly changed subjects to taxes.

>>135606730
But you don't need 91% tax rate on the rich to cover roads and healthcare either. Nor do you need 35% tax rate on corporations.
His argument is to make the government bigger rather than more efficient, if making it bigger is better then why not go all out?
I already addressed this with the education, you americlaps vastly overspend on public education for example yet you get shit results. What's the democrat argument? We clearly need more money for education!

File: sand flea.jpg (8KB, 194x259px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 194x259px

>>135607207
In the end it doesn't matter if Cenk did win. The only message the majority of americans watching on youtube got, is that we should pretty much hate sand niggers even more than we already do. And make no mistake, cenk is a filthy sand nigger.

>>135589406
um sweetie its the current year you mean "muh pansexual roads" and "colleges of islam"

>>135593070
Poor people eat fast food because they can't afford good food. Nothing wrong with his comment

File: 1501388467808.jpg (175KB, 1024x1009px) Image search: [Google]

175KB, 1024x1009px

This is a perfect representation of the Left vs Right culture war currently taking place.

You have the big thought leaders of the alt media from both sides debating.

The right winger comes with information-dense, fact and logic based rhetoric.

The left winger is incapable of anything but platitudes, virtue signals and insults.

Cenk being so obviously Shapiro's mental inferior is a stark representation of the two sides of this culture war.

I just hope a few lefties see this and slowly start getting redpilled.

>>135607434
I thought we were debating who won, not who stupid neckbeard incels or spineless college liberals thought won.

>>135607164
Perhaps, he's part of that alt-lite lot though. Counter signals the alt right all the time. Can't trust someone who would ally with Laura loomer.

>>135607207
Because Shapiro refuses to trash America and address that America has crippling obesity, tobacco, opiate, and abortion epidemics, which are all personal choices that lead to massive healthcare costs.

>>135595075
Does Shapiro argue for a zero percent tax rate? If not, then he had no business expecting cenk to explain why a 100 percent tax rate is bad, they both agree with what cenk said then that there needs to be a balance. If taxes are a necessary evil, then it makes sense to spend them on the most important things first, keeping people alive should obviously be the number one priority. So universal healthcare is the baseline, after that it is all debateable

File: 1501188217078.png (147KB, 965x1025px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 965x1025px

>>135590166
>>135590500
>>135590999
>>135591066
>>135591244
>>135591366
>>135591599
>>135591600
>>135591666 hail
>>135591822
>>135591733
>>135591844
>>135591988 heil
>>135592300
>>135592711
>>135592855
>>135593044
>>135593400
>>135594255
>>135595022
>>135595500
>>135597877 ooo
>>135600033
>>135602699
>>135603922
>>135604666 hail!
>>135604877 ooo
>>135604977 BRUH
>>135605822
>>135605766
>>135606044
>>135606699 nice
>>135607466
Just checkin'

File: 1481100849666.gif (1MB, 305x360px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 305x360px

>>135608397
I just want to say I love you and appreciate you.

>>135605726
Nether, they both held their own well enough to simply reconfirm the biases of their respective supporters. In that respect I guess you could say cenk won, since Shapiro was the odds on favorite

>>135607284
If smaller is better why not go all out? Somalia calls.

>>135589782
Haven't watched it yet, but we all knew he would. I couldn't watch the Coulter - Kasparian one longer than ten minutes because Ana did three things: 1) ad hominem vs Coulter; 2) flat out lies (illegal immigrants don't get any government handouts, example); 3) make annoying "delay" statements (I can't even, where do I even begin, amirite? etc). I had to turn it off. Hopefully this one is better.

>>135600478
i'm about to be homeless on the 15th
140iq bipolar dropout neet. let's fucking goo lol

>>135607643
Not true, if you want information/fact laced arguments, Chomsky btfo anyone on the right

>>135609343
Maybe on geopolitics. He's as retarded as all lefties when it comes to economics.

File: Screenshot_20170731-090122.jpg (271KB, 720x879px) Image search: [Google]

271KB, 720x879px

>Cenk gets ass raped
>TYT comment section overwhelmingly on Ben's side
>TYT mod team chimps out, deletes all pro-Ben comments

https://twitter.com/ConjuringAlias/status/891870414313574402

Literally can't make this shit up.

>>135607643
Its not clear to me how Cenk is as dumb as he is. I mean the man graduated from Wharton and then Columbia law school. He can't be retarded. Affirmative action can only get you through the door, right?

>>135592174
Do you retards not understand depth?

>>135607466
>Poor people eat fast food because they are too lazy and incompetent to make food at home
Ftfy.

Getting real tired of this meme that the poor eat poorly because they are poor. Making food at home is cheaper than buying premade food. If you can't understand this, then you obviously don't understand what a value added product is.

File: 1464575247339.jpg (67KB, 960x960px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 960x960px

>>135609930
>Affirmative action can only get you through the door, right?
I have terrible news for you, Leaf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpFm6SeMgM0

>>135591839
Same thing the health care facilities did, exponential increases. since the government (i.e. taxpayers) are paying for it, a $.03 latex glove costs $200.00 and a labor fee of $250.00 for the doctor to put it on.

>shills still claiming Chunk won
I'm pretty sure no TYT fan or lefty will actually watch the debate. The amount of cringe that Chunk generated would make even /r9k/ feel disgusted. For fuck's sake, the buffalo's only hope was that the crowd would heckle Ben, but he didn't even get that

File: maxresdefault.jpg (27KB, 1440x1080px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 1440x1080px

>>135591894
The old i'm a raging faggot who will quote the bible to bait on /pol/.

Wonder who could be behind this post

>>135610234
KEK. Well the good news is I'm no longer confused about Cenk

>>135608103
They both agree on it, but Cenk explains and justifies his postion with the argument that big government is actually beneficial, or at least not detrimental to the economic situation and the society. If that is the case then having MORE government wouldn't actually be a bad thing, now would it?

The issue isn't that he argues for universal healthcare or high tax rate, it's how he argues for it. Ben takes his arguments to the extreme because Cenk (or liberals, in general) argues that big government and high tax-rate is justified to ensure the welfare of people, reduce the inequalities, fund entitlements and to not let the fat cats get away with siphoning the money from working/middle class, yada yada rather than arguing that 35% corporate tax rate is the minimum required to sustain healthcare and other entitlements and duties of state (it's untrue, which is why democrats don't approach the argument from this perspective and constantly try to expand and redefine the duties of state).

The whole issue is the perspective where most left-leaning people view government as the ultimate solution to a problem, whereas right-leaning generally view it as neccesary evil and last resort.

>>135609092
I don't want to live in a lawless shithole, which is why I don't want to abolish the government. merely absolutely minimize its presence and impact on my life as long as I live within limits of laws that minimally affect my life if I don't behave like a savage. If we need 10% tax rate to fund defence forces, border enforcement and public services such as police/firemen/courts etc. then so be it, but not a cent more nor will I agree with government doing more than bare neccesities.
If I have a land dispute with my neighbor my first solution isn't to run to government to solve the issue for me, but neither am I going to blackmail or nuke him for it like some retarded ancap meme.

Essentially I want the government to do the most it can with the least amount of money.

>>135590500
>Lib: the lakers won easily
>Nonlib: but they scored less points
>Lib: Google it, you uneducated educated. You don't understand that winning a basketball game isn't about scoring more points. You need to be an 8th level intellect to see the real game being played.

>>135605726
If no one with out any bias would was watching. They would have thought ben came out on top. He just caught cenk out on a lot of the debate and cenk started insulting the crowd and using terms like GOOGLE IT.