Please explain how someone is responsible for someone else killing

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>wizard
>you know if you roll digits they will have to do it

Please explain why you waste thread space with these stupid topics every fucking day.

>>135581247
Ask Charlie Manson

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>>135582042

>>135581247
You are supposed to report someone saying they are going to kill them selves.
Double so if they are trying to do it.

I'm just surprised they found a female guilty desu.

How is she not just a victim of her bf's emotional abuse and pushed to tell him to khs to free herself from him since it was the only way she had left?

>>135581247
you know it went well beyond a single text of"kys."

>>135583676
Why would you do that. It's their right to kill themselves if they want.

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>>135582271
jigga wigguh wut wut pbbbttttttpppthhh

>>135581247
Thats not what happened. He was in the process of killing himself and she instructed him to get back in the truck and finish the job, when he was getting out and about to change his mind.

>>135584587
Edginess aside, that's pretty heartless desu.

It's part of the disempowerment propaganda. The wimps who rule the world cannot allow even suicide to be an expression of the individual will. They sincerely believe themselves to be that fragile against empowered individuals!

>>135584587
Suicide is a crime, dumbo.

>>135581247
This is going to cause a big problem to free speech once the SCOTUS hears the appeal. And you know they will with such a hot topic.

Because right now, this court case sets the precedent that when I say " go wash your mouth out with buck shot"

I could go to prison for saying that if you actually do it. That's wrong. She should not be in prison for the boys stupidity and metal illness.

>>135584922
How is it heartless? It would be heartless to force someone to live if they want to die, just to keep yourself happy, knowing it'll make the suicidal person sad.

>>135584975
No it's not. And if it was it shouldn't be.

>>135584922
>that's pretty heartless desu.

i think youre the heartless one

you want to send a bunch of people to their house and lock up them in mental hospital

its your job to help someone with problems not send agents to their house to forcibly jail them against their will

>>135584587
Our laws are based on the renaissance idea that all lives have a sacrosanct quality about them, that there's always a potential for someone to do an ultimate good that makes up for all of their past failures. That's why we give everyone due process of law even when it's obvious they're guilty, because even the wickedest of criminals have something sacred that drives their being, even if they don't know it.

>>135585292
They put you in a mental institution if you try you retard. Being a danger to yourself is literally the definition of what it takes to be committed in most places, except some like NY where you need to be a threat to others too.

>>135584894
she was pretty fucked up, too. IIRC, her last text she sent him was "i love you", right? it reminds me of that blue whale game in a way. except this bitch was just outright telling him to kill himself every second of the day.

>>135581247
This thread again?

Sage.

Also, she is going to jail because she knew he was in danger and didn't call for help, not because of her texts.

>>135585538
Whether you think lives matter or not, it's not ok to force someone to keep on living against their will. They want to kill themselves for a reason, most likely because their life is miserable. Keeping them alive and miserable just to give yourself a sense of self satisfaction is fucked up.

>>135585684

you post i want to kill myself on 4chan someone will instantly have the helium infograph ready

its the same thing

>>135584587
because wanting to kill yourself is not normal and the person clearly requires counseling

>>135585651
Don't know about all that, but the kid had tried to kill himself multiple times before and people knew of it and he wasn't in a mental institution so I don't think that's true.

>>135585484
>you want to send a bunch of people to their house and lock up them in mental hospital
Yeah honestly I'm not sure they would get help if you call the cops. They'd probably just be locked up, billed an exorbitant amount, and released once they swear not to kill themselves. Possibly lose their jobs in the process. Next time they won't let you stop them.
It's fucked up. They tell you to call the cops but I doubt it helps any.
>its your job to help someone with problems not send agents to their house to forcibly jail them against their will
I guess you're right.

>>135585872
and what are you going to do hold them down in a prison their whole life with no bed sheets

if someone wants to kill themselves theyre allowed to

>>135585872
Doesn't matter if it's normal or not. It's not normal to destroy your tv, but it's yours and you own it so it's your right to do it. Same with your life.

>>135585538

No, we have due process because anything else is tyranny. If it was about human lives and shit good sumiaritan laws would be mandatory. You're trying to put an emotional narrative into law.

This chick is a monster, and I hope she suffers for the rest of her life under the guilt of herself and others, but I cannot see how her actions are illegal

>>135581247
it was dumb and this girl will eventually make some money, though her lawyers will make much more

>>135585866
>you post i want to kill myself on 4chan someone will instantly have the helium infograph ready
it needs to be updated since most companies add a bitter taste to the helium to prevent exactly that, unfortunately. probably the comfiest way to go.

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this is some slippy slopey shit.

>>135581247
She was not guilty of anything. Just like the guy that sent a guy a flashing gif that induced a seizure wasn't guilty of doing anything.

>>135581247

...Is this going to be appealed? I mean I think it deserves to be heard in the supreme court

>>135581247
Not really, because people don't really expect to people to kill themselves because they said so.

The real reason is something deeper and long term, that people should had noticed much before.

Saying can only work as a final trigger, but so could have a series of other small circumstances, there is no way to predict this.

>>135581247
She verbally took advantage of someone with a history of depression. It wasn't just "kys", it was "Get back in the truck" when the kid was having second thoughts about killing himself. Read her actual goddamn text log with him. It gives me the fucking chills.

EVERY
FUCKING
DAY

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>>135586914
shes a alien demon just look at her lol

is there any question this isnt another species

>>135584922
As someone who thinks that suiced is a great a alternative to crippling or heavy pain afflictions or even maybe old age (for me, not only other people) i don't think it's heartless

>>135584975
>>135585872

It's amazing how the slavers brainwashing stuck so deep

>>135581247
oi fucker she coerced him to suicide

he had changed his mind and she said to him to get back in

>>135586914
She took advantage of him by telling him exactly the same thing he had been telling her for months?

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>>135585872
>wanting to kill yourself is not normal

>>135587853
Coercion means to force or threaten someone to do something, she did not coerce him. She said kys and he chose to do it because he wanted to.

>>135588189
he was in his right mind to make a decision
he had changed his mind, but she influenced him too heavily

its the same as having sex with a 6 year old

>>135588579
* wasn't

>>135581247
She's not responsible. It was a terrible fucking decision and I hope it gets overturned. As bad of a person as she is, that's still free speech.

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>Reading the texts
This story is fucked up. She actually pushed him a lot even tho he was hesitant.

>>135588579
How was he not in his right mind? And if he wasn't in his right mind then how could he make the decision to change his mind.

>>135589022
that he changed his mind so easily proves he wasn't is his right mind

a definite solution requires a definitive mindset

when i have suicidal thoughts i always research the best way to kill myself without pain and the most chance to do it without fail

>>135581247
Did you actually read the texts? She was constantly telling him to kill himself, like to do it as soon as possible, that if he really loved her he'd do it, that it was the only way he would be released from pain, etc....he would express doubts and she'd literally demean him for not having killed himself already. She would text him back after 5 minutes of no response asking if he'd done it already. She's a fucked up cunt and deserves to be in prison for the rest of her life.

>>135589693
I don't know what you're trying to say. But there is no reason for him not to have been in the right state of mind.

>>135590173
That's what he himself kept saying, so after he convinced her of it, she started repeating it back to him. Anyway, it was all his decision, regardless of some texts she sent that were just repeats of what he himself said.

>>135581247
can't wait to see this bitch get raped in prison. those texts man, no one has sympathy for her.

>>135590322
reasons don't need to be logic
it could be a pletora of variables that made he in that state of mind, be he simple was fucked in the mind that day.

in the end it simple comes to, if she hadn't said to him to get back in the truck he would have lived at least one more day.

she is responsible to him killing himself at that moment of time.

>>135586225
>but I cannot see how her actions are illegal

Doesn't matter, they are.

>>135590900
He had been telling her he wanted to kill himself for months or years and had tried multiple times before. So if he was fucked in the mind that day because he chose to do it, then he must be fucked in the mind 24/7.

>>135590900
I'll correct myself, she is partially responsible

>>135591252
Nope.

>>135581247
More importantly, will she get raped in prison?

>>135591529
she should've called someone to help

or simply took distance and let him do it by himself

she is probably is a sadist degenerate who was waiting for hill to kill himself and got tired of waiting

>>135581247
Why do Dems have such problems with accountability?

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>>135591785
No she shouldn't have it's his right to kill himself if he wants. If she was a sadist, she wouldn't have told him to get help originally. She told him to kill himself because he kept saying it's the only way for him to be happy.

I thought she was OK in Valerian.

>>135591854
If you think she controlled the guy's actions, then it's you who has a problem with accountability.

>>135592035
when she noticed she wouldn't be fucked after showing her true intentions she got exited as fuck about it.

if she wasn't able to do the task she should have took her distance instead of helping (not a issue) and motivating him (an issue).

>>135592415
>when she noticed she wouldn't be fucked after showing her true intentions

What are you saying? You're saying her true intentions all the time was to get him to kill himself? Even during all the months she was specifically telling him not to and to get help? That makes no sense.

>>135592666
yes, it makes total sense
she changed to acceptance and eagerness fairly easy

trying to help can be just a facade, so it doesn't get out that a person is a psychopath

>>135584242
This. She was practically begging him to do it.

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>>135592142
How about not telling people to kill themselves?
How about not alerting other people?
Or seeking help for this person?

It's really not that hard to not say "kill yourself" to your suicidal boyfriend.

>>135592946
She changed after months or years of him constantly saying he wanted to die. How is that easy. You think this 16 year old girl, came up with a plan months or years in advance, to get this guy to kill himself, and part of her plan was constantly telling him not to, and then telling him to? This is what you honestly believe?

>>135581247
Its called suicide baiting and its very much a crime
Rot in prison, roastie

I'm tired of this boring topic.

>posting on /pol/
>no understanding of basic human emotions

O I AM LAFFIN

>>135593064
You can tell someone to kill themselves if you want to. Kill yourself. And she only told him because he said that was the only way he'd be happy.
She didn't alert other people.
He already had "help", in the form of counselors, and it didn't make him want to kill himself any less. And it's not her responsibility to get him help.

>>135592666
the thing she said about heaven, is one of the things that makes me think she is psychopath

religious people believe there is a piece of god inside all people, so people are literally holding a piece of god hostage, if you kill your self you are trying to harm a piece of god, so there is no way that someone who kill themselves os going to heaven (i know its retarded, but religious people are mostly this stupid)

>>135593130
not a plan, she just had morbid curiosity about someone suicidal, with time get got annoyed that the guy was just talk and no action

>>135581247
it's about an abuse of influence

think about when you are capable of getting a retard or a senile old person to do what you want, or somebody who is mentally ill

a duty to at least not manipulate that person arises

I do however think they should have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the dude wouldn't have killed himself without her input, which I don't think is totally conclusive

>>135593355
I respect the digits

I'm just saying if you don't tell suicidal people to kill themselves this problem wouldn't happen.

off topic but anyone else for fun cruise twitch channels to find feminists/cucks and troll them in chat?

>>135593586
You said her trying to help was just a façade and you said yes to me asking if you think her intention all the time was to get him to kill himself. Now you're saying that wasn't her original intention. You're making no sense.

>>135588894
post them I'm lazy but curious

>>135581247
i thought so too but apparently she had been pushing him to do it for months.

>>135582042
/thread

>>135593612
He wasn't a retard and he always wanted to kill himself and had tried before multiple times. Getting a guy who tried to kill himself multiple times and constantly talked about suicide, to try one more time like he inevitably would, doesn't sound like much influence.

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>>135581247
>find mentally retarded person
>talk them into hurting themselves because they're retarded
>I did nothing wrong

huh?

>>135594248
Good thing that didn't happen.

"Kill yourself" is a call to action

>>135593969
i never said she wanted to get him to kill himself
she wanted see him kill himself, when he didn't she motivated him

>>135593637
Nothing wrong with telling suicidal people to kill themselves. It's still their decision. And all the people in the chat who tell someone to kill themselves while they're live streaming their suicide, deserve no punishment for the suicidal guys decision.

>>135594296
Stop trying to defend this bitch you piece of shit

>>135594413
Yes you did.

>>135592666
>You're saying her true intentions all the time was to get him to kill himself?
>>135592946
>yes

>>135594473
She did nothing wrong, and shouldn't be potentially about to go to jail in a few days.

https://mobile.twitter.com/michyc47

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>>135581247
>caring about roasties or roastie chasing beta cucks

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>>135581247
The message is to perpetuate to men the idea that somehow there is nothing wrong with being a spineless, sniveling pussy.

>>135594189
I'm explaining why what she is charged of would be considered legitimate, not whether or not she is guilty of that, and I included that caveat at the end

>"but for her encouragement, he wouldn't have killed himself"
If this is true, she's guilty, if it is not, she is not guilty

>>135585872
people have been killing themselves for thousands of years it's perfectly normal

>>135594469
Of course randoms in chatrooms typing "kys" would not receive punishment because that's a completely different situation. Some things need to be looked at as an individual case with complex factors and can't be boiled down to all cases of people telling each other to kill themselves being the same. She clearly used her position of power to manipulate a vulnerable person into harming themselves.

>>135596135
Don't see why she'd be guilty either way. It''s his decision, and it only affects his life, the law shouldn't be looking into someone's decision to end their own life like it's a bad thing. But no way to know if he'd have done it or not.

>>135594473
You're the piece of shit degrading our rights to free speech. Traitors to first.

A mentally ill child emotionally abused by a mentally ill ADULT.. She's a victim and needs therapy.

>>135596228
If she had a real position of power, how come she couldn't get him to get help when she told him to. At most, she supported his own decision to kill himself. And how did she manipulate him when he always wanted to kill himself and tried before. And the chatroom thing is the exact same, she wasn't there, he was killing himself, she texted him to do it.

>>135581247
She was jailed because she was a traditional woman who supported her man's dream despite initially being against it. She sacrificed her own happiness for her man and now she's in jail

>I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF
>Do a flip
>goes to jail

>>135596534
because things like temporary insanity or vulnerability exist

in murder for instance, if you murder somebody in a fit of rage and lose control, you generally get a lesser sentence, subject to the jury of course

>>135596710
>how come she couldn't get him to get help
influence isn't an on/off button

>>135596936
So she only has influence to get him to do what he had done before on his own multiple times. That doesn't sound like influence. That's like me telling you to go to work, and you do, and me saying I have influence over you.

He had free will over his own life, she should not be held responsible. Any happy person who didn't want to die would kill themselves because someone told them to. He did it because he wanted to. Why end 2 lives? He isn't coming back.

>>135596838
He had been telling her he wanted to kill himself for months or years and tried multiple times. Didn't seem like his feeling were temporary.

>>135597284
>*evidence the jury considers*

>>135597184
If the default was "not going to work", then yes, you were an influencer. Even if the person had gone to work before.

You are (presumably) sapient and senient, yes?

If he didn't suicide, he'd still be torturing this already mentally ill child with his fantasies of dying. Is that something a vulnerable mentally ill child can go through without lashing out from the pressure? He was abusing a mentally ill child with suicide tall CONSTANTLY. He guilt tripped her, toyed with her emotions and she reacted the best she could.

She needs therapy.

>>135590322
The argument in the case was because he had been inhaling the fumes of the truck

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It is not her fault he was weak, and desensitized her due to months of blabbering and multiple suicide claims.

>pic semi related

>>135581247
I am not asking for a new precedent, but to me it seems either wreckless endangerment (given she was basically giving a kys tutorial and he was affirming the steps throughout) or inducing someone else to commit a crime. Isn't it illegal to kill yourself?

Misery loves company, he tried putting all of his problems on a child who initially tried to help. He refused help and continued to emotionally and psychologically torture this girl. We don't know what was on her plate at the time. She was on antidepressants at the time. She was being abused. She is the victim here.

>>135597610
There's a difference between influencing someone one time, which is what every bit of life does to everyone, and being a serious influence over someone, like a general to his army. This was the point, whether she had serious influence to blame his decisions on her.

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>>135582271
not vouching the upstanding gennelmans character or anything, but.. to whom the fuck did Chuckles say 'kys'? Certianly wasnt pic related. You confusing Manson with Jim 'Kool-Aid' Jones here, or, did I forget something?

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She is the victim, you retarded twitter faggots.
Nice victim blaming, I thought you guys HATED that??

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>>135581247

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>>135597929


3 alpha 5 me

>>135581247
If you kill yourself because someone tells you to, You deserve that death.

>>135585079
It's not a landmark case... there have been previous cases where people have done this, and they went to prison. It doesn't set any precedent, they're just going off what has been determined already. Suicide is illegal, assisting someone in suicide is illegal, whether you assist them physically, or mentally is irrelevant.

>>135581247
She's a true sociopath. She's crying because she got caught. However, this is bullshit. She is not legally responsible for his death. He was an attention whore. She should of just called the cops, but she's a psychopath.

I'll be paying her a conjugal visit in the pokie.

>>135581247
OP, you nigger, read the screenshots of the texts that took place. He had more than one moment of having second thoughts and what did that cunt do each time? She kept pushing him to do it. What she should have done is texted something along the lines of "Dude you keep saying you're gonna do it, but you don't, and that is fucking irritating. Either stop altogether or just fucking do it. I'm done with this shit." She didn't. In fact, she made it about herself because she wanted him to off himself so she could rake in the sympathy attention supposedly. Fuck that cunt. Even looking at the OP image I don't get a sense of remorse or loss for the person who died. I see the makings of some crocodile tears.

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>>135581247
Why are you kike shills lying so hard about the details of this one case? It's not like she's a nigger, so why the interest in spreading so many lies?

>>135596737
>parallel shitposting
I have to hand it to you for that post, anon. That was well crafted.

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>roastie walks bf through killing himself because she wants attention

>>135581247
Psychological manipulation, egging somebody on is retarded when they're in that state. She stood to gain nothing. She's a psychopath. Furthermore if you have a close personal relationship with somebody so close to killing themselves you have a duty to report it.

>>135581247
Aiding and abetting in a crime, and then you do the time. The devil lies in the law's details and this lil millennial power hungry whore deserves the time she gets.

>>135585079
Its not her choice of words or her ideology / ideas that have gotten her in trouble and nothing she said was illegal.

However you can derive from what she said that she had a sinister motive to encourage him to end his own life. She was seriously pressuring him hard. Telling someone "KYS faggit" is not the same, even if they do go and kill themselves after, the court will see quickly you weren't pyschologically manipulating / pressuring that person to do it the same way she was.

because in america feelings are the law

>>135598986
he told women to kill other people and was held responsible for it for some reason, and serves life in prison when arab shitlords do this every day and its considered "free speech"
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/07/25/davis-islamic-center-under-fire-after-sermon-translation-surfaces-online/

>>135608137
No you don't have a duty to report it. And she didn't manipulate him, he always wanted to kill himself. If anything she was manipulated, seeing as how she actually changed, from his manipulation into agreeing with his death. How was he manipulated if he just did what he had done multiple times before, as in try to kill himself.

>>135608311
Suicide is not a crime. And she didn't aid him he did everything himself.

>>135607039
Wrong, one time she actually said "if you don't kill yourself, I'll get you help", he then ofcourse chose the kill himself option because he always wanted to die and it had nothing to do with her. Anyway doesn't matter what she texted, he made the choice to kill himself and she had no control over him.

>>135608407
She supported his decision to kill himself because he kept saying it was the only way for him to be happy. If he didn't spend months convincing her of it, then she wouldn't have done it. There was nothing sinister about what she did. If she was an evil person, she would have told him to kill himself from the beginning, well I don't think that would make her evil but I can see how some people would, but the fact that she told him to get help at first, and only later told him to do it after he convinced her it was the only way for him to be happy, proves she was just looking out for his best interests the entire time.

>>135608100
Nothing wrong with walking someone through suicide if that's what they decide they want to do. Her reason for doing it though was because he kept saying that's what he wanted and she was his friend.

>>135605774
Suicide is not illegal and she did not assist him, he did everything on his own.

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I agree op. If someone tells someone else to do something the person who made the request has no liability what-so-ever

>>135609878
There's a difference between telling someone to commit crimes against other people, and giving your opinion on what someone should do that only affects their own life. In the latter, you have no liability. Similarly, if I tell you to not to go to college, and you choose to do it, you can't sue me later when you're poor for your decision.

>>135610159
>There's a difference between telling someone to commit crimes against other people, and giving your opinion on what someone should do that only affects their own life

Stop being a retard that makes up your own laws.

>>135581247
Story might be more complicated than that. We shouldn't really pass judgement based on how little we actually know.

>>135610477
What I said is a fact. If your stock broker tells you what to invest in, and said thing flops, you cannot sue him for your decision to listen to him. It only matters when someone tells you to commit crimes against someone else. This is because that other person is not agreeing to being victimized, but you are agreeing to whatever that person suggested, so there is no victim in that case.

>>135610634
We know enough. Guy wanted to kill himself. Kept talking about it forever. Girl just repeated back to him what he kept saying, that he should kill himself, and then he did it and she was blamed for some reason.

>>135610477
Simple, when you tell someone to do something like harm themselves, if they do it, they are agreeing to harm themselves. Therefore there is no victim and no crime. Similarly, if I punch you in the face in a boxing match, I won't go to jail for assault, because you agreed to me punching you in the face so there is no victim. Very simple. Now if I tell you to go out and kill someone, the dead person did not agree to that, so there is a victim and a crime.

>>135581247
She psychologically groomed the person into killing himself. She should be executed.

Don't fall for the "AW DUH POOR WITTLE WHITE GIRL" bullshit. She's scum. She's a psychopath. She's playing for your sympathy. Hang the bitch.

>>135613680
Wrong he been tried to kill himself without her. He was already "groomed" for it.

>>135584587
Because the boy needed help and wanted it. He literally asked for help and got out of the garage initially then she convinced him to go back in. Also, she had they found proof that she had plans to try and make a profit off of it by posing as a poor victim afterwards and taking donations from people for it. This is something she talked with him about extensively on more than one occasion. She found someone mentally ill who needed help, made them think she loved them and then convinced the, to kill themselves so she could get money/attention...

>>135585866
no, its very different to have someone respond to you with a meme one time then to have someone you care for texting you several times a day asking you to hurry up and do this already.

>>135585079
You should be killed. She didnt just say 'kill yourself'.

-_-. Whole thread of this and no one even bothers to post the actual texts people are talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YFClEfut_0

>>135618064
He specifically didn't want help, she told him many times to get help, to which he refused. One time she told him "if you don't do it I'm going to get you help", he then ofcourse chose killing himself over getting help. And she only told him to kill himself because he said that was the only way he'd be happy.

>>135618654
have you actually read the texts?/ That is NOT what she said or how she said it. You need to reread them.

>>135618464
Yes she did. She didn't help him in anyway. She just said "kill yourself" multiple times.

Kill yourself
Kill yourself

What I just did is the equivalent of what she did.

>>135618725
Yes she did say that I remember reading specifically her telling him one time if he doesn't do it she will get him help.

suicide is a human right

>>135618654
Having reread, she specifically said "You just need to do it Conrad or I'm gonna get you help".

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>>135618756
no, she technically never actually said kill yourself. She instead coached him through it the entire way over the course of several days pressuring him. Seriously people read the texts for yourself.

>>135581247
>Having second thoughts bout killing himself
>Text GF. I'm getting out of the car.
>GET BACK IN THE DAMN CAR RIGHT NOW PUSSY.

Sick bait bro.

Milk are you reading this?

>>135619065
I've read all the texts, she didn't specially say kill yourself, but she said "do it" multiple times, and she was referring to him killing himself. Anyway him choosing to kill himself was his decision and was what he wanted to do with his life. There wasn't even a victim so I don't know why anyones going to jail anyway. But it's also just not her fault for what he chooses to do.

>>135619080
And then he chose to do it of his own free will because that's what he wanted.

>>135594347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByC8sRdL-Ro

Fucking mass murderer

>>135618725
yeah man she said something really mean
BAN ASSAULT TEXTS WE NEED COMMONSENSE TEXT CONTROL

>>135619349
HE DIDN'T HAVE FREE WILL
he's an animal if you ordered your dog to die and it did it would be your fault since the dog isn't human and has no agency.

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>>135619349
>Tell someone to shoot someone in the face
>They do it
>I did nothing wrong

Try again. you CAN shout fire in a crowded theater, but you cannot encourage someone to commit a crime.
Yes, technically suicide is not illegal but just like crime its destructive and undesirable. The judge made the right call.

A judges job is to interpret meaning. Justice was achieved, deal with it. It's now a precedent.

>>135620160
Suicide is not illegal nor is there anything wrong with it. Telling someone to shoot someone else has someone getting shot against their will. Telling someone to kill themselves, would not do anything, unless the person agreed to kill themselves, in which case, nothing bad happened, they agreed to being hurt if they do it. There was no justice. What justice is there in locking someone up when there is no victim, when the "victim" wouldn't want the person locked up.

>>135620160
Also ofcourse keep in mind, she only told him to after he himself kept saying he wanted to for months.

>>135620402
>Nothing wrong with suicide.
Hello satan.

Yes I could convince girls to cut themselves too if I was fucked up and took advantages of their insecurities and told them how good the release felt if I was a monster.

Any form of self harm is bad. Encouraging and enabling people to harm themselves when they are essentially crying for help is immoral. If he was talking about killing himself for months, he needed help.

It would be different if she simply didn't notify anyone and then he just did it on his own accord. When he starts having second thoughts and she tells him to stop being a pussy and just go through with it that is a different story.

It is justice. Her intent was for him to kill himself. You can be tried for involuntary manslaughter and face less prison time if it was an accident. In justice it's all about intentions.

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Something that seems to dwindle more and more over time, may god have mercy on us all.

>>135621015
Thats really a different story. He himself said he wanted to kill himself, after she told him not to. Suicide was entirely his own idea, he's the one who convinced her it was best for him, not the other way around. Self harm is not bad or good, it doesn't affect anyone who doesn't agree to it, therefore there's nothing wrong with it but it's not bad or good, it's just a choice you get to make with your own body. He had "help" in the form of counselors, I don't know how talking to people would make his life less depressing and make him not want to kill himself, but anyway it didn't work and he still wanted to do it. How is it justice when he wanted what came to him. You agree to get hurt and there's nothing wrong you getting hurt. Same as you agreeing to a boxing match. No victim, no crime.

wow i can see that the failure of suicide squad hit this actress really hard

>>135621381
You are wrong. People matter.

Most young people are overwhelmed by what many people would call trivial problems that is just part of the emotional roller coaster of life and growing up. They cannot see past the looming problems and feel like they have no solution and nowhere else to turn and they need an escape.

He was having second thoughts about killing himself and she talked him back into the car so he would suffocate due to carbon monoxide poisoning.

You have been programmed. Don't argue for the sake of winning an argument. Break your programming and actually think for yourself. You were born with the knowledge of right from law, don't deny the eternal, natural law that guides us all.

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>ywn save her

>>135622762
Yea people matter thats why they have the right to kill themselves if they want because they don't like life. Taking away that right would be treating them like an animal or a slave. Their lives matter in the sense that we should try to preserve it if they want it preserved, but if they want to die it's their body and right to do whatever they want with it. He chose to get back in the car because he wanted to die. That's on him. It's you who can't think for yourself, if you think you should have your right to commit suicide taken away.