Daily reminder that unless white people start doing pic related,

>>135576623
we had niggers for that though

>fucking rural and suburban faggots, whining about jobs when automation is coming
>hehe, w-we need immigrants to work these jobs

>>135576623
I cut grass and do weeding for a small landscaping company at $13/hr. You're telling me the subsidized to fuck agricultural industry can't afford to pay a wage that isn't $.25/hr? Bullshit. Americans will do the work, threaten the agribusiness with subsidy removal unless they employ American. This is the wage slavery shit liberals love to boast about, so why keep allowing immigrants in to be exploited?

>>135576932
>Americans will do the work

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHA

no but seriously

>>135576866
>we need more immigrants to supplement a falling population
>discourage the nuclear family in at home.

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>>135576623

Daily reminder the homeless problem would cease if forcibly removed from metro areas and placed into migrant worker camps.

teens would do that job in a heart beat if it paid minimum wage.
the reasons why they currently aren't doing that is
>farmers would rather hire spics for 1/3 the cost of paying a teen minimum wage
>also the farmers do not understand the concept of advertising their need for workers. they are entitled dumb cunts who think people should just drive down their 1/4 mile long drive way to see if they have any work that needs done that day
>farmers are cunts who don't understand the concept of learning curve. they expect you to have 5 years of crop picking under your belt and do it at the speed and efficiency of some sort of robot

in general farmers are entitled, greedy cunts and it's all their fault a lot of shit in america is fucked
>papa gob'ment pay me money to exist! I grow da food for da peoples! never mind I sell 90% of my crop to companies that turn it into syrup for soda, gib me money!

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Or just automate it???

>>135577000
Yeah, we will. But just with the HB-1 visas, we instead use illegal immigrants to illegally drive the cost of labor down so we can sit here and say "Americans don't want the work!"' when pay is so low.

>>135576623
We have legal mexicans too you maple-syrup-guzzling northern fuck.

>>135577074
That's why I said threaten the subsidies if they don't start hiring American workers to do work they can obviously afford.

>>135576623
Here in Canada we have a bunch of pajeets doing all our berry picking.

I was talking with one of them and he told me he'd just bought an automated berry picker.

>Picks faster than people
>Does a better job picking
>Less wastage
>Costs less in labor
>He can pick berries with it later in the season
>He can loan it out to other farms when they need it

This guy is saving money buying a machine and hiring a dude to listen to music while driving it around, over hiring swathes of people picking at 10 center per berry or whatever it was he was paying.

Spics in the US are going to be automated out of a job. So are most non-skilled workers. Automated machines are already more cost-effective than low-quality human labour working under the table for scraps.

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>>135576623
I would much rather pick in a field than deal with people as a waiter. This isn't even a bad entry level job for High school/University students and will make a man out of you.

NAWHHH just gotta get niggers to do it duh....you dumb nigger

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>too lazy to pick cotton
>import slaves
>omg niggers

>too lazy to harvest crops
>hire illegal immigrants
>omg spics

lol

>>135576623
No. They could just move that shit down to Mexico. Down there they could pay them even less.

>>135577241
You're saying that like it's a good thing.

No need for whites to do it when in less than a decade machines will do it more efficiently than any human.

>>135576932
You're only partially correct. They continue to import crops from other countries for some (((unknown))) reason and force the farmers into subsidies. Then they point at them and say they are failures. I saw a story not too long ago that this will be the first year in decades that we export more rice than we take in. Makes you consider things.

>>135577878
Will there also be flying cars and low-cost interstellar travel?

>>135577074
I don't really think you know anything about farmers.

T. Live in a farming community

>>135577882
USA is a agricultural exporter of rice, corn, wheat and pretty much every temperate or staple food.

You're full of shit or talking about a different country.

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>>135577948
That's only for the elite. The salarymen get to live too. The rest starve in the cyberpunk wasteland..

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>>135578065
I was wrong I guess. I should've said ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/500278001/

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>>135576623
https://www.agrofy.com.ar/pilotos-automaticos-case-ih-trimble.html

Here in Oncativo, Cordoba we are already using automatic self-driving harvesters.

No need to hire Bolivian spics anymore.

>>135578013
I live next door to one. as does most people in our town, since we are utterly surrounded by farm land.
they're dumb trash and I can't wait for robots to completely take over farming.

>>135577882
The only things we should have to import are crops we cannot grow here, which are far and few in between. I completely missed that point, thanks for adding it. It's a good example of how our current trade policy hurts us at home.

>>135578378
>>135578065
>>135578605
Ok yeah, scratch my comment. Is there anything we are at a disadvantage at in agricultural trade?

>>135576623
White people would do pic related if it actually had the wages it originally had.

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>>135578605
Fucking 44% and most of it looks like shit we could produce ourselves.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/agricultural-trade/

>>135578945
k

the only whites who would do it are the dirt poor whites in the south but they're dirt poor and cant get to places like california

>>135577122
this

>>135576623
only reason cali and texas hire mexicans is because the labor is cheaper than robots.

kick them out

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>>135579106
tfw I know more about the history of your country than you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okie
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grapes_of_Wrath

>>135576623
Daily reminder that if your electronics were made in western countries and not Asia, the workers would demand hundreds(if not thousands) higher payment than their Asian colleagues.

>>135579593
the dust bowl didn't happen in the south

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>>135576623
You again?

>>135579024
kk

>>135576623
Either that or invent robots to do it. People are working on it.

>>135576623
My friend took a job in the USA on a farm, he literally sits in an automated harvester all day during harvesting time.

No mexicans needed?

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>>135579724
Oklahoma is considered part of "the US South". If tens of thousands of near-starvation impoverished farmers could make the trip in the 1930s they certainly can afford to do it now.

>>135576623
If we didn't have beans we would automate the process. Then we could sell this technology.

>>135579633
my computer's ddr4 ram was made in the usa and the price was comparable or even lower to memory made elsewhere

>>135580074
oklahoma is midwest, the south is east of the mississippi and below the ohio river

>>135576623
those people aren't illegal immigrants FYI

>>135578769
Avocados, coffee and tropical shit that doesn't grow in Florida.

We also import fruits/vegetables that are out of season from the southern hemisphere (and they do the reverse)

Fucking Leafs, always so conserned with the US when we litterally could not give a fuck about you. You guys have your own problems with pakis and chinks

>>135580249
Not according to the map I posted which comes from the US Census Bureau.

>>135580293
There are agricultural worker visas and there are people who get paid under the table. Both exist.

You'd be surprised how many spics get paid under the table.

>>135580494
they can go fuck theirselves. oklahoma doesn't even have pine tree forests which is basically what the whole south looks like

oklahoma is like a 90s version of texas so i'm mistaken it's not midwest at all, it's just texas north

>>135576623
why don't they plant the crops higher up so they don't need to bend over to pick them?

>>135580592
>moving the goalposts this much

Just close the tab and fuck off when you get blown it. Stop trying to protect your fragile ego.

>>135555555

>>135578409
it depends on the crop. I bet spics mostly pick strawberries and other shit that bruises easily.

>>135576623
That will be done by machines in 30 years.

>>135580791
go fuck yourself you argentine lover

>>135576623
We can use prisoners and teenagers

>>135576623
they came when white people were doing it. theyll keep coming until White people say STOP, but most whites are lost and have no idea what's happening.

automation + robotics - no need for useless eaters

>>135580987
Better to be an Argentine lover than a Mexican spic lover. You are the one defending spic immigration here.

>>135580987
He's whiter than you, spic loving kike.

>>135581126
but you are the spic

>>135581168
wut?

>>135576623
Were making machines that can do this now, you fucking Leaf.

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>>135581178
I'm a wop, at least get your slurs right, spic lover.

>>135581535
go fuck yourself your beef sucks

>>135576623
This is work teenagers should be doing. every boy from 13 to 15yrs old should be doing shit like this all summer long.

>>135576623
implying spics haven't taken over the construction industry, lowering the already low bar for quality. They are the reason I can't fit my fucking furniture through my room door at home. Low wage, low skill workers are why my god damned doors are less than 30" wide.

>>135576623
Daily reminder that spics are the excuse that keeps farms from investing in mechanized farming equipment such as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3EpFTyN26E

Cut them off and farms will have to invest or be driven out of business. And the ones that do will grow and eventually push produce prices right back down in a few years.

Free market is a beautiful thing.

>>135581634
that's the architects fault not the construction workers fault you dumbass

>>135581618
You sound upset, Jorge.

>>135581905
go suck off your argentinian lover

>>135576623
>Daily reminder that unless white people start doing pic related, the spics will keep coming.

Most spics actually live in cities and do not contribute anything.

>>135581894
>because your people never cut corners on their work

Spics are the laziest sons of bitches I've ever hired. They look busy all the time, but they can never meet deadlines and as soon as you turn your back, they're fucking off.

>>135581963
That's not an argument. You can ad hominid all you want, but you're the one defending the importation of cheap labor that drives down wages for everyone. But hey, at least we're saving 10¢ on a pound of strawberries.

>>135582228
then why are you hiring them you stupid fucking cheap kike

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>>135577619
It's not that white people are too lazy, it's that the pay for picking the cotton/crops is too low. When government allows foreigners to come in who will work for peanuts, the wages will never increase so white people will never do the work.

>>135576623

>Advocating Slave labor

Liberal Tap dancing limbo

How low will you go?

>>135581634
>construction workers decide the dimensions of your house
What?

>>135582322
My contractor hired them and my deadline didn't allow for me to fire the contractor until after the work was done. The lazy spics caused me to miss the deadline anyway and I never worked with that GC ever again.

>>135582515
thats why contracts exist if you wanted americans to do the job explicitly write it down into the contract

>>135582509
It's not uncommon to screw up the implementation of the architect's plans. I had a partner who used a contractor who made the garage 3 feet longer than it should have been.

>>135576623
Don't tractors and other farm equipment already do this shit a hell of a lot faster than any human?

>>135582114
Prove it. Unless you get an acurate picture on what is going on then you will always fail.
Apparently (including OPs pic) that is not the case.
You are a fool for letting your ego get in the way of reality.

>>135581894
So it's the engineers fault if I don't compact the soil or put in rebar before pouring a footing? Is it the architects fault if the brick masons get mortar all over the face of the brick or don't keep a bond? No. It's the company who hired a bunch of mex-I-cans who say they understand what you are telling them to do but really don't, and end of doing whatever the fuck they were going to do anyways. they take zero pride in their work. Instead they take pride in doing things really fast.

>>135576623
Daily reminder that you're a fucking moron and farming is almost completely automated at this point

>"Dey took err jurbs!"
This is not the issue, the issue is illegals mooching off the taxpayers while contributing nothing in return

>>135582848
the fuck its the architects fault for the god damn doors being too narrow who said anything compacting soil you retard

>>135582509
Unless you are 3D printing your house, yes.

those people have migrant worker visas that allows them to work for below minimum wage

how about we end the migrant worker visa? Oh, because then it wouldn't be feasible to tap our aquifers to grow alfalfa in the desert? Oh, the farm lobby would be mad?

There's more to this issue than "Americans don't want to do that job"

That job only exists due to market distortion.

>>135583061
everything is going to be automated because thanks to 4chan the whole world knows just how fucking incompetent blue collar america is and points the finger to immigrants like their right wing leaders are telling them to

>the current farming methods are outdated
>individuals can grow enough food for family/local community
>farmers do not want to upgrade; not because they give two shits about little Juan, Juanita and their children, but government subsidies are the best game in town
>as a result Mexico et al are off the hook; because they don't need to elect a President that gives two shits about nation and people. They can blame the US for everything wrong with their shit hole of origin
>profit, profit & more profit

>>135582785
Because they've driven down the pay and workplace standards so far that now even they don't want to do it.

>>135583004
>>135583061
hes making a good point.
Unless you've had work done on your house you don't know.

I had a septic system installed at my house. Do you think they followed the engineering plan? Fuck no, they did whatever they wanted as long as it worked for them. Instead of pumping my old cess pit, they collapsed it. And part of the installation cost included an allowance of $1500 for septic pumping. They literally stole from me and there's nothing I could do about it because if I complained to the township there'd be a fucking hazmat team declaring my house unfit for habitation or some shit.

The contractors decide everything. You literally have to stand there and supervise and check their shit otherwise they do whatever the fuck they want.

>>135582785
>implying only migrant slaves can pick fruit and vegetables.

If immigration for low skilled work was not allowed, they would have to raise the pay to attract native workers which would raise the cost of the product, which would decrease the demand for the product to the point where fewer workers are required so the wage can be lowered which will lower the cost of the product and create more demand, repeating this feedback until precisely the right wage is found to meet the most profitable level of demand.

God forbid the market becomes more efficient and your countrymen get paid more.

>>135583619
contract. spell it out everything the fucking plans have to be followed to the t write it in the fucking contract if you dont yoh fucked your own self

>>135583004
I get it that you probably get called that all the time, but throwing it out there doesn't replace reading comprehension. People end up doing all kinds of shit that isn't on the plans. A 28" door is not the standard size for a bedroom, and would not ever appear on a set of plans (which I have). But I'm the retard here.

>>135584317
thats a bathroom door but if you had a contract then your contractors wouldnt have fucked you by saving 20 dollars on a smaller door

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>>135582651
It's implied that the contractor will follow the law in fulfilling the contract. I refused to pay him the last installment because he missed the deadline anyway.

>>135582991
This, having 20 million people here who are willing to work for less than minimum wage, while avoiding the requirement for workers compensation insurance, will have no effect on wages for everyone else.

>>135584512
The home was built 15 years ago when everyone and their grandmother wanted in on construction because muh pickup truck, but didn't know how to do it so they hired illegals. I just bought it last year.

>>135584624
you have to write everything into a contract everything all the materials everything and if you cant thats why theres lawyers

I worked a summer at a winery in the fields when I was 19 with about 6 other people, occasionally the people that did shit like the mechanic and winemaker and a rotating cast of people who quit after a few days, there was only myself and one other white guy (felon) in the field a few super hard working and friendly Mexicans a flip and a black (felon) myself made minimum wage and the Mexicans made 10 cause they were fast as fuck, not really arguing either but your average white doesn't last in the fields the usually last a week unless they're a felon or a drug user, I just really needed money, just figured I'd give a little insight on the topic from experience

>>135577122
It costs a lot of money.

>>135585264
Massive effort for minimum wage < less effort for minimum wage.

You can't blame somebody for seeking a better job that pays the same or better.

>>135582651
It's implied that the contractor will follow the law in fulfilling the contract. I refused to pay him the last installment because he missed the deadline anyway.

>>135582991
This, having 20 million people here who are willing to work for less than minimum wage, while avoiding the requirement for workers compensation insurance, will have no effect on wages for everyone else.

>>135583842
>just write in the contract that you have to fulfill the terms of the contract

WHY HASN'T ANYONE THOUGHT OF THIS YET?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaL3UxUclKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaL3UxUclKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaL3UxUclKY

What about this tho?

>>135576623
I don't like to buy vegetables that can't be harvested with some kind of combine.

Every time I look at strawberries I think of some sweaty illegal immigrant toiling in 90 degree heat for .25 an hour. I'm not going to support that, for lots of reasons.

Carrots, cabbage, beets, there are tons of vegetables that can be harvested easily.

I'd really like to see a list of which vegetables / fruit can be harvested by machine. I'd prefer to only ever buy those.

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>>135576623
Fucking kill yourself, Obamaleaf.

Saged.

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>>135581963
I know you secretly want to suck me off but I already have a girlfriend, so stop projecting faggot.

>>135579106
Just use prisoners. We have millions.

>>135583842
>if they don't follow the contract, just pay a lawyer a few thousand dollars to sue them in small claims court and then spend a few years trying to extract the money out of them

I get that you think you know how the world works, but you really don't. You seem smart enough, but your arrogance is going to get in your way. I've rehabbed 40 houses in the last year, things are never this simple with contractors.

That's why everyone who has done this kind of work laughed when the media got upset about Trump "not paying" or suing contractors. Most of these guys are good tradesmen who don't know anything about business. They don't budget right, or underbid and get in a situation where they have to cut corners to make a profit.

>>135580807
Shit like corn and potatoes can be easily harvested via combine.

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>>135576623
I know, right? If we don't import more third worlders the wheat will just die in the fields.

>>135576623
Automation

>>135583619
then make a police report and sue them for the theft+ cost of remediation

>>135576623
Stop blaming them
start telling the farmers to stop hiring them
Jesus christ!

>>135577028
yeah but that's mean, it would be just like that time in Star Wars when Czerka Corp enslaved the Wookies.

>>135591625
>make a police report
>county condemns your house until the old tank is removed
>you gave to pay out of pocket to remove the tank
>have to pay out of pocket to sue the contractor
>spend years hiring private investigators to find his assets to seize

Yeah, suing only ever works if the company you're suing is large enough to collect from. Most states make it very difficult to collect from people without alot of assets. Then, you have the added burden of hunting down the assets yourself because the court never helps you with that.

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>>135576623
Wrong, just need to put the blacks back to work

>>135594529
The only reason the blacks are in the cities is because there was demand for industrial workers during WW2. If we opened up jobs for them in agriculture, we might be able to clean up our cities.

>>135576623
Daily reminder that whites have no problem doing this. Its the employers not wanting to pay legal wages.

>>135579771
>carrot holocaust

>>135577001
Yeah exactly. That's the reason I don't believe the "we need workforce" -meme. If the government was really worried about birthrates and workforce, they would courage and somehow sponsor it, like in Nazi Germany.

>>135576623
Yesterday it was Israel, today Canyadistan.

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>>135595948
>whites have no problem doing this

>>135576623
whoa /b/ro you like rellay made me think! so epic have an upvote xD!!!

>>135596564
It's remarkably easy to stimulate birthrates. Romania did it incredibly well in the 1980s - too well, to be honest.

The real problem isn't low birthrates, the real problem is we've flipped evolution on its head. We're subsidizing birthrates for the genetically inferior, at a time when the middle class and elite have the lowest birthrate in its history.

The growth of the peasant class is going to be devastating if it keeps at its current pace.

>>135597119
calm down nigger

>>135576623
Bring on the fruit-picking robots

>>135597112
Whites won't do this for $5 an hour. Pay a decent wage and you'll attract native workers. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

>>135597296
>Whites won't do this for $5 an hour.

Enjoy your spics.

>>135597453
My point is that there's no inherent need to use spic labor. There's certainly not a labor shortage. The spics just came in and undercut the wages of the people who had been doing this work for generations.

>>135597661
Is there any way that whites can be made to pick vegetables without spending 2 hours giving me a history lesson and educating me on labor value?

>>135597965
>whites have no work ethic

Have you ever been to Mexico?

>>135580074
Yeah it's called greyhound or hitchhiking or train hopping or carpooling

>>135576623
Can we just enslave the spics?

>>135576623

Whites will do it for decent wages, just not slave wages.

I'm totally fine with fruits and vegetables costing more to get the spics out. With the money saved on welfare and medical care alone the government could subsidize farmers to keep the fruit and vegetable prices indefinitely low.

>>135576623
Oh gawd, whatever will we do without greens and specialty fruits.

Calories and protein come from Trumpland you dumb fucking leaf.

>>135598834
That's the thing, the prices will adjust anyway because Obamacare will be gone. Without that fucking retarded requirement on businesses, it will not be as big of a price increase as everyone thinks.

Daily reminder that in only a few hours a white man can pick enough produce to feed his entire family for weeks. Voiceless slave labor, like the GMO scam, only serve the purpose of making an extra sheckle for execs at the great expense of the rest of the nation.

>>135577074
Teens would not do that job if it paid twice what minimum wage is. They can not do simple tasks at a fucking burger stand or a target. Anyhow, Alabama already tried getting rid of illegal labor. The niggers and White guys bitched, did a shit job or quit. The farms almost went bust as a result.

>>135602130
>whites won't do the work

Wow, how did white countries manage for the last 5000 years without Based Spics to do our manual labor for us?

>>135576623
why don't they have rolling shade canopies at this point?

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>>135576623
They don't come for work, you dumb leaf, they come for the eternal gibs

>>135576623

Reminder that if agribiz doesn't raise their prices and wages they are going to have to rely on illegal labour and human trafficking.

Now which of these is the most moral option, faggot?

>>135605149
Because the people working these jobs are disposable. If whites were working these jobs, they'd have enough leverage to require things like regular breaks and more comfortable working conditions.

BEND AND SCOOP LIKE THE MEXICANS. DO A GOOD JOB MA BE WORK YOUR WAY UP TO THE GOD DAMNED BANANNAS!

>>135576623
I was going to school for agriculture. Only finished the prerequisites classes like math, science, and english. For a year straight I tried to get a simple laborer farm job to gain experience and make a little money while I was in school. The openings were competitive as shit. I saw a few beaners but more white people when I would go and talk to the farmers. Here in KY they are paying anywhere from $12-17 an hour as a laborer on most farms. I could not get a job because I needed at a minimum 3 years experience as a farm laborer. Switched my degree to instructional systems.

>>135582785
Because the prices are so low it's not even worth it to hire illegals to pick fruit. If you let some of your crop rot (you can't just let orchards run fallow), that decreases supply. Once the price gets to the point that it's worth it to pick fruit again, the fruit will get picked.

>>135576623

>implying robots aren't going to do it all in the next 10 years