stop being Catholic or Orthodox and realize Baptism is the

>>135561050
Why lump orthodoxy with these cucks

>>135561050
>church-hating buzzfeed-tier media claiming that the vatican said something that the vatican never said
>/pol/ weenies unironically believe it

The Vatican said that Jews shouldn't be proselytized to the same way as other religions because historically it hasn't worked. The Catholic Church believes that salvation is via Christ and that has never and will never change.

this pope is bound for hell

>>135561050
Jews believe one is saved if you follow the simple Noahide Laws.

Christians believe you are saved as long as you believe in Jesus or burn in Hell for eternity.

I'll take the Jews.

>>135562523
>The Catholic Church believes that salvation is via Christ and that has never and will never change.
The pope:
>Says Islam has the same god
>Says hell isn't real and as long as you lubb god you go to heaven reguardless of sin
>Believes in global warming propaganda
>Says homosexuality isn't a sin
>Speaks openly against nationalist movements
>Blesses gay marriage
>Absolves abortion

Sorry, faggot, but your pope is the False Prophet.

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>>135561050
written by them...

>>135562390
This is random, but did you know that Orthodox Christians in the U.S. lean left.

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>>135562523
Oh look a leaf who loves Pope Cuck

>>135562919
>What is true is whatever is most convenient for me
Sure thing, skippy. And the old testament laws exist because it's impossible to follow them, so, well good luck with that.

>>135562988
Is that true? Most Russian and Ethiopian Orthodox I know are extremely conservative and traditionalist

>>135562930
>>Says Islam has the same god

To an extent this is true, it depends on what you mean. Muslims rightfully recognize that there is only one God.

>>Says hell isn't real and as long as you lubb god you go to heaven reguardless of sin

False.

>>Believes in global warming propaganda

Irrelevant to the faith, it's is personal opinion. Global warming is real tho.

>>Says homosexuality isn't a sin

False.

>>Speaks openly against nationalist movements

Nationalism is a product of modernity. I'm not saying that all nationalists do, but putting the nation (or anything) before God is wrong.

>>Blesses gay marriage

False.

>>Absolves abortion

Absolution can be granted for any sin. What Pope Francis did was give priests rather than bishops alone the canonical authority to lift the excommunication associated with abortion for the Jubilee Year of Mercy.

>>135563478
>>>Says Islam has the same god
>
>To an extent this is true, it depends on what you mean. Muslims rightfully recognize that there is only one God.
>
>>>Says hell isn't real and as long as you lubb god you go to heaven reguardless of sin
>
>False.
>
>>>Believes in global warming propaganda
>
>Irrelevant to the faith, it's is personal opinion. Global warming is real tho.
>
>>>Says homosexuality isn't a sin
>
>False.
>
>>>Speaks openly against nationalist movements
>
>Nationalism is a product of modernity. I'm not saying that all nationalists do, but putting the nation (or anything) before God is wrong.
>
>>>Blesses gay marriage
>
>False.
>
>>>Absolves abortion
>
>Absolution can be granted for any sin. What Pope Francis did was give priests rather than bishops alone the canonical authority to lift the excommunication associated with abortion for the Jubilee Year of Mercy.
False.

>>135563645
Pope Francis has said that we ought to be charitable to homosexuals and others. He never said that we should affirm sin. He has explicitly condemned homosexuality, abortion, lack of care for the poor, materialism, a culture of death, etc. in his sermons and exhortations. Stop paying attention to memes.

>>135561050
Well, the pope just skipped the line to go to hell when he finally dies. Good going, pope.

>>135561050
>jews are saved without believing in christ
IT'S LITERALLY IN THE BIBLE YOU UNEDUCATED FUCK
READ THE MOTHERFUCKING PAULUS LETTERS
AS LONG AS JEWS STICK TO JEWISH SHIT THEY ARE STILL WELCOME IN HEAVEN
fuck's sake

>>135563783
I am positive you're cherry picking. A quick google search reveals the pope is corrupt as fuck and regularly says things that go against the bible.

>>135563478
Islam claims to worship the God of Abraham, the same God spoken of in the Bible. The Islamic version of Jesus is a Satanic inversion of the true Jesus however.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyE_W3nsLDw

>>135563919
The bible also says not a single person can "STICK TO JEWISH SHIT" idiot.

Doesn't the pope know about all the blasphemy that's said about Jesus in the Babylonian Talmud?

>>135562988
all minorities lean left as a way to dismantle the ruling nation and gain power
orthodox christians vote left in usa so the goberment allows more greek and russian inmigrants

>>135563964
A quick google search reveals that mainstream media wants to paint an image of Pope Francis as some sort of progressive pope who is somehow going to introduce gay marriage and gender politics into the Catholic Church when he has explicitly condemned "progressive" politics, marxism, etc. just as his predecessors did. Actually read what he says in full, and not just cherrypicked quotes.

"There are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family."

"It is a source of concern that some ideologies of this sort, which seek to respond to what are at times understandable aspirations, manage to assert themselves as absolute and unquestionable, even dictating how children should be raised. It needs to be emphasized that biological sex and the socio-cultural role of sex (gender) can be distinguished but not separated"

>>135564010
This is why I said it can be true to an extent, that doesn't mean that the Islamic conception of God is the correct one.

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>>135563478

I'm so glad I was wrong.

I was telling Vladislav that there's no need to infiltrate the Vatican that the space age has arrived there will be no need for religion in a few years but Vladislav said of course we must strike at the Devil's heart and infiltrate the Vatican!

Ignorant pigs still cling to faith as a crutch. Something that weak shouldn't be able to sustain life and yet those zombies are still animated. I need some vodka maybe krokodil too or maybe I can get some of the real stuff from the inner party.

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>>135561050
Will you niggers stop buying into the (((MSM))) lies about the Vatican?
This is the same shit as the whole "The pope said dogs go to heaven XD"
In other words FAKE NEWS

>>135565189
>when you don't have a counter argument but you disrespect the other poster's flag so you win

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>>135562919
punishment for disobedience to noahide laws is decapitation. look it up

>>135564095
read the paulus letters
then shut hte fuck up and kill yourself

>>135566002
I assume these letters negate that we all fall short of the glory of God, are all deserving of damnation, and that the only way to the father is through Jesus? Yes yes, I'm sure they're very enlightening. Next time your dick is in your hand jacking off to futa porn, remember that you believe it's possible to earn your way to heaven. Then pay attention to that feeling inside you that says "This really is wrong. I really am undeserving." Then shut the fuck up and kill yourself.

>>135566363
read the bible
before you talk about it

during Paulus days the discussion if you had to be ajew first to become a christian and if they go to heaven was hotly debated
he cleared that up
As long as jews stick to their jew shit they go to heaven, as long as they honour the old covenant with god they are included into the heaven of the new one.
This is not about interpretation,it's in there clearly.
How about you actually read the bible before you talk shit you uneducated american nigger?

>>135566363
also
>tripcode on 4chan
fuck off back to r*ddit

>Baptism is the final redpill

>Still worshipping a kike

Kill yourself

>>135561050
>there are still people living in 2017 unironically thinking you will be saved or doomed depending on what fairy tale you decided to believe in
truth is, you won't go anywhere without going a bit deeper, idiots

>>135561050
This is some next level heresy.
>>135562523
>The Vatican said
>>135565536
>FAKE NEWS
Provide a transcript or be dismissed.

>>135564960
I remember back in the day when Benedict was the Pope that for the press he was a dangerous ultra conservative or straight nazi.

Makes you evaluate

>>135561050

Seriously, why the fuck can't conservatives into nuance? You're nearly as bad as SJWs.

>>135567170
>provide transcripts
Funny enough there isn't a link!
How about you give me a link first faggot?
>also
I stand with the leaf>>135562523

>>135566002
HITLER WAS JEALOUS!

>the jews get to inherit heaven without being catholic REEEEEEEEEE
>i'll show them

mien gott it all makes sense now

>>135567483
>can't even find the article
>somehow knows what the pope said even with no knowledge of the article let alone the source material
This is some next level dishonesty.

>>135566606
What do you mean? They debated whether or not Christians had to keep things like Jewish dietary restrictions or circumcision, and the answers was no. The Church has always taught that salvation is only through Christ, though.

>>135567980
>They debated whether or not Christians had to keep things like Jewish dietary restrictions or circumcision, and the answers was no.
Come on man, they debated a lot more than that.
The question if jews go to heaven was a part of it and Paulus is quite clear there. As long as they stick to the old covenant they are fine, Christians DON'T have to stick to it because they entered the new covenant.
Don't get me wrong, I really don't give a fuck either way since I'm agnostic, I just dislike people like the american tripfag who haven't read shit, talk big and think they should wear a trip for no fucking reason on 4chan.
Avatarfagging is banned for a reason.

>>135568307
Where is that said? The Apostles were very clear when they spoke of the necessity of recognizing Christ.

I now hope Muslims kill the pope
Done with this nigga

>>135562390
>be orthodox
>be communist
>wonder why you're lumped in with Jews

Lmao

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>>135561050
>Jews literally teach their kids via Talmud that Christians are heretic demon spawn whom it's okay to kill and steal from, and whose holy books should be defiled, and whose property taken and families deconstructed
>Cathlocucks and Evangelicucks suck Jew ass regardless, because muh Holocaust

Pagans are LARP-tier but at least they know cucking to Judaism is the ultimate embarrassment.

>>135568468
No idea right now, the bible discussion I got that from was like a year ago, though back then I was surrounded by christians of different churches (I was the only one who didn't have a personal bible with me, but I just came due to a cute chick inviting me) and they were surprised but even their different versions of the bible said the same thing.
Which I remember due to them all reflexively looking up the passage when it was mentioned, christians can be a bit creepy sometimes.

Jews are incomplete without Jesus Christ

>>135568970
modern jews have fuck all to do with the jews from jesus times m8

>>135561050
Baptism
>Hey man buy our shit, attend our mega churches of Satan and gluttony
>Don't ever admit to being gay
Cathocucks
>Some well preserved ancient tradition
>Most priests are child rapists
>Congregations are all old, "just in case" retards.
Orthodox
>Look like Jews.
>Behave like Jews

Are you triggered, faggot?

>>135563272
If you look at Orthodox saints that aren't recognized by the Roman Catholic Church, many are communist scum.

>>135569162
>>Most priests
>united nations
Hey there, cunt.

>>135569161
Then why do atheistic Jews push the same decadence and tradition as religious Jews, while advocating for Israel and voting overwhelmingly democrat & shoving socialism and white guilt down everyone's throats while pretending to be white themselves?

Talmudic practice strictly may not exist for most, but I know for a fact that some Jews still read and teach it, because I personally know some who do.

>>135569208
>many are communist scum
Only a retarded Schismatic could be so wrong. Congrats, now get back to diddling little boys

>>135562919
>Christians believe you are saved as long as you believe in Jesus or burn in Hell for eternity.

Protties, not Christians.

>>135562930
>The Catholic Church believes that salvation is via Christ and that has never and will never change.

Don't believe =/= reject Christ. Enoch, Moses, and Elijah all went to heaven without believing in Christ during their lifetime on earth.

>Says Islam has the same god

Yeah, they ripped us off like the Mormons. What's the big surprise? Have you not read the Quran yet?

>Says hell isn't real and as long as you lubb god you go to heaven reguardless of sin

No, he said hell isn't a physical place somewhere in the universe.

>Says homosexuality isn't a sin

Yeah, just being gay isn't a sin; doing gay shit is a sin.

>Speaks openly against nationalist movements

"how quickly those among us with the status of a stranger, an immigrant or a refugee become a threat, take on the status of an enemy...
An enemy because they come from a distant country or have different customs. An enemy because of the color of their skin, their language or their social class. An enemy because they think differently or even have a different faith,"

All he said is "Judge INDIVIDUALS based on their actions and not their identity." Don't buy the media spin.

>Blesses gay marriage

Learn to read
"Pope Francis backs gay marriage protests in Mexico"
"The Pontiff supports anti-LGBT campaigners in Mexico 'in favour of family and life' "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pope-francis-gay-marriage-mexico-protests-support-catholic-church-a7330181.html

>Absolves abortion

Repent and your sins are forgiven. Child murders are no exception.

"I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever." Mark 3:28-29

>>135569458
>why do greedy people fuck others over to their advantage
I don't know, m8, you tell me.

>>135569208
Not really, no. With very very few exceptions the Catholic and Orthodox Churches don't recognize each others' post-Schism saints. This isn't because they were not holy people, but because of the Schism.

>>135569530
Please archive it
https://archive.is/Dwby0

>>135569530
>all this reddit spacing
jesus do you know how much space youre taking up on the screen you autist. Knock it off, and hit enter only one time, and then go back where you came from

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>>135561050
friendly reminder that literally everything the pope says has been dogma for hundreds of years or thousands, and if you read the Catholic Catechism you'd know this, but you'd rather freak out because you have no actual knowledge of Catholicism.

>>135569734
>do you know how much space youre taking up on the screen
That's exactly the reason why reddit spacing was invented

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>>135561050
>lol catholics are so cucked with the jews, become a protestant guys ! it doesn't matter protestantism is probably the most jew-like version of christianity!

Silly christcucks.

>>135569574
Oh ok, the trend must just be coincidence then. Right.

>>135569768

>Papal infallibility was never a thing
>Assuming a faulty premise that Rome had supremacy over all the other holy sees due to a single bible passage taken out of context

R.I.P. your soulerino, dude.

what the fuck is pope francis's problem

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>>135561050
>catholics
>Christians

>>135570015
This.

>>135569489
LOL do you see me saying the modern Catholic Church is any better? All the churches have been infected with shit. If you think otherwise you're probably a nigger.

>>135569161
Ashkenazi Jews are significantly Levantine. They didn't pick up that ancestry in Europe, it's ancient Jewish ancestry.

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>>135570256
donald trump and obama also revealed

all part of the end times of the bible

thousands of years ago

>>135570070
>the bishop of rome has authority over all sees
>eastern catholics get hella salty around 1000
>"n..no! it's j-just administrative!"
>get excommunicated
>papal infallibility is a codification of the way things have been since the institution of the church
>it doesn't even really get used, and is widely misunderstood
Proddies please get fukt

>>135570015
>jew like
>tell them they are the sons of devil
wtf

>>135570237
>LOL do you see me saying the modern Catholic Church is any better?
Claiming the Catholic Church, with its ridiculous doctrines of papal infallibility and the immaculate conception are """better"""" is categorically wrong. Sorry it took you so long to realize the Catholic Church is shit, but it sure doesn't have anything to do with modern history

>All the churches have been infected with shit.
Glad to see you accuse Christ of being a liar

>>135570244
I wasn't talking about genes but the substance of their faith. The codification of it largely happened after jesus died.

Well all you have to do is be genuinely sorry for the wrong you have done a beg forgiveness for your sins.
It's also funny how the pope is saying "You're wrong but we'll save you anyways". Waiting for the Jews to start screeching about "Well what's wrong with our beliefs?".

>>135561050
The nose knows.

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>>135570116
He's a Jew loving heretic. Trying to destroy Christian dogma from within.

>>135561050
Why in the fuck does anyone take any organised religion seriously in this day and age? You come across as low intelligence.

>>135570798
how are you cats doing?

>>135570566
Oh ok, sure then but he mentioned the Talmud which (anti-semitic conspiracies and all aside) is at the heart of Rabbinical Judaism, no?

>>135565748
And it's part of our gov't since the 90's.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-congress/house-joint-resolution/104/text

>>135570330
>>135570330

My friend. Roman supremacy was never accepted in the early church.

I will direct you to Matthew 23:1-2, Luke 22:24-27, 1 Corinthians 3:11, Matthew 16:18 and Mark 10:35-45 as direct and unambiguous counters to the fallacy of papal infallibility and Roman supremacy.

In the words of St. Hilary of Poitiers: "The Rock (petra) is the blessed and only rock of the faith confessed by the mouth of Peter. It is on this Rock of confession that the church in built."

And in the words of St. Augustine: "Peter had not a primacy over the apostles, but among the apostles and Christ said to them 'I will build upon Myself, I will not be built upon thee'".

>I'm not even protestant :^)

>>135571018
>he
Who and in what form and when?

>>135570798

My dude, your aura is going to misalign your chakras and cause you bad juju and misfortune.

>>135561050


See how is hiding is cross?

He does that all the time when speaking with jewish leaders. He's the biggest cuck we ever had.

>>135571119
>>I'm not even protestant :^)
The catholic church doesn't claim to be infallible, especially the pope doesn't as he only has one way to speak infallibly which only happened a handful of times throughout the history of the catholic church.

>>135562930
>Pick a faggot out of South America
>Expect anything else
As a confirmed, but lapsed, Catholic I can confidently say I'm done with that church

>>135562390
This

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>>135561050

>>135571386
>especially the pope doesn't as he only has one way to speak infallibly which only happened a handful of times throughout the history of the catholic church
It does not matter. Claiming that the pope is infallible at any point is a heresy, not supported for the first 1000 years of the Christian Church.

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>>135571316
i know he's a commi but i think he's jewish too

>>135569734

What the fuck is reddit spacing and why the fuck should I care about your phone poster problems?

>>135571536
>It does not matter.
It kinda does as I just wrote that the church specifically does not claim that you retard.

>>135571536

I wanted to post this. I'll post this instead:

"If you believe that God has raised the whole building of His Church on Peter alone, what will you say of John, the Son of Thunder? What will you say of each of the apostles? Will you venture to say that the gates of hell shall not prevail against Peter in particular, but shall prevail against the others...? Are not the words addressed to them all?" - Origen, Commentary on Matthew

>>135569161
Wrong, apart from some admixture from Khazars, Jews are still pretty much the same. They're more related to each other than to the local populations.
You have to remember Khazar Empire wasn't homogenous, and it included Alans and other ethnicities. It was the ruling class that converted, not the whole thing. But what they did add to Jewry was their love for ritual murder, which Jews already had, thus solidifying it once more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TuIwi6JbN8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuWZKycY-sA&feature=youtu.be

https://youtu.be/VF808I5jSFk

>>135561050
I dont worship sandniggers

>>135571762
Yes, it does. Name another bishop who can be infallible at ANY point. The Catholic Church has devolved into a worship of the pope. Absolutely disgusting

>>135571316
He does that because he's a crypto Jew/freemason.

>>135571252
The American you responded to.

>>135571948
>Yes, it does
No it doesn't.
The pope's words are only infallible when he's speaking ex cathedra
You know when he last did that? In 1950 which was about the virginity of mary.
When he doesn't do that he's just a regular guy who can be wrong.
So go fuck yourself you yankee cunt.

>>135563478
>Anti-Catholic absolutely BTFO
everyone go home.

>>135571948
Pope is only infallible while speaking in ex-cathedra, first and only time was in 1950.

>Hillbillies in charge of theology
http://www.biblicalcatholic.com/apologetics/num52.htm

That's not to say I'm defending Francis, rather Vatican II should be repealed.

>>135571928
>Wrong, apart from some admixture from Khazars
>wrong
NOBODY
WAS TALKING
ABOUT GENETICS
read the fucking thread you retard

>>135572058
Possibly, I kinda stopped reading quite quickly since he was obviously mentally deficient.

>>135572472
Hey dumbass, you do know that the same Jews now, regardless of genetics, still reject Christ and act the same as before?

Or do you think they dindu nuffin in the book of esther, when they slaughtered 75k Persians? Or how they celebrate Purim by making fun of Persians and "eating" their flesh.

>>135572352

"For neither did Peter, whom first the Lord chose...when Paul disputed with him afterwards about the circumcision, claim anything to himself insolently, nor arrogantly assume anything, so as to say that he held the primacy, and that he ought to be obeyed by novices and those lately come". - St. Cyprian

Papal supremacy discouraged by St. Peter himself.

>>135572703
>act the same as before?
The jewish faith has changed quite a lot, so they don't.
And if you'd read the thread you'd know that I'm an agnostic and really don't give a fuck.
The bible says jews can go to heaven if they stick to the old covenant with god and that christians aren't bound to the old laws anymore because they accepted the new covenant with god.
I haven't said shit about anything else you illiterate fucktard.

>>135561050
I'm not even a papist, but it's pretty sad watching this faggot ruin your religion.

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>>135573004
Aside from writing down the Talmud.

>Stick to the Old Covenant
That's irrelevant since they killed Christ and are cursed forever.

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>>135561050

JIDF shilling hard today against Christians huh .
>>135562450
>>135562481
>>135561050
>>135558349

>>135565726

>>135572352
>>135572384
How many times do I have to explain this to you. IT DOES NOT MATTER THE CONTEXT. No bishop in the first 1000 years claimed to be infallible AT ANY POINT. The pope claiming infallibility ex cathedra or not is a heresy.

>>135573378
"The rock is the unity of faith, not the person of Peter" - St. Cyprian - De Catholicae Ecclesiae Unitate, cap. 4-5

>>135573143
>Aside from writing down the Talmud.
What the fuck are you on about?

>That's irrelevant since they killed Christ and are cursed forever.
Paulus wrote the letters after christ had been dead for quite a while already, mr retard.

>>135573378
>The pope claiming infallibility ex cathedra or not is a heresy.
Nope.
Only if you consider genuine messages from god heresy.
Would you say that Mary wasn't a virgin then?

>>135563478
>To an extent this is true
No it isn't. You're a fucking tard.

>>135566002
>read the paulus letters
>then shut hte fuck up and kill yourself
You dont know what the Fuck youre talking about, Fritz. The entire point of Jesus coming in the flesh was because no man except Jesus Christ the Godman could keep the Law. Blameless.

Without Christ's ransom sacrifice everyone would go to Hell.
Before Christ the old testament saints went to Sheol, Christ is the Firstborn of the Resurection. The Godhead transcends time.

>>135573774

>Man says Mary is a virgin in 100AD

K

>Man says Mary is a virgin in 1950AD

HURR DURRR PAPAL INFALLIBILITY Y WAS THIS NEVER THOUGHT OF BEFORE

It's like me predicting that I will eat tomorrow, knowing full well that I need to eat. That's just retarded.

>>135574033
>It's like me predicting that I will eat tomorrow, knowing full well that I need to eat. That's just retarded.
Nigger, he didn't "predict" anything, he just cleared that up, what the fuck is so bad about that.
"No she was a virgin, period."

>>135573953
So which little sect are you from, Johnny?

>>135569768
>if you read the Catholic Catechism you'd know this
The "catechism of the Catholic church" is literally modernist heresy written only a few decades ago, dumbass. It teaches something significantly different from traditional Catholicism.

>>135573774
So the fathers of the church during the first 1000 years didn't recieve messages from God? Funny how they still held councils. They didn't just listen to the bishop of rome and go home.

This is why the catholic church is so corrupt and disgusting today, and in the past. You worship the pope, as a man should not be worshipped.

>>135574220

How was this anything other than obvious? The Virgin Mary. You don't need to synthesize a heretical position of infallibility to work this out. The early church fathers, and the New Testament are both quite clear on her virginity.

>>135563964
im guessing your the kind of idiot who just reads headlines.

>>135574701
>So the fathers of the church during the first 1000 years didn't recieve messages from God?
Apparently not.

>You worship the pope, as a man should not be worshipped.
By agreeing that Mary was a virgin as that was literally the only time he invoked divine right?
Wew lad, that's a big jump.
also
>You
Did I not mention several times already that I don't give a fuck since I'm agnostic? Why is your reading comprehension so bad, nigger?

>>135574703
>How was this anything other than obvious?
It was questioned by cunts and heretics (protestants).
> You don't need to synthesize a heretical position of infallibility
The possibility to do that existed before already IIRC it just wasn't done because there wasn't a completely fucking obvious thing to speak on before.
But I'm sure you'll agree that the virginity of Mary isn't really a contentious topic.

>>135575120
>Apparently not.
Yep, St. Paul never received a message from God. You have no idea what you are talking about. Just stop

>Did I not mention several times already that I don't give a fuck since I'm agnostic? Why is your reading comprehension so bad, nigger?
Stop retreating. I don't care what you are. I'm debating you on your claims.

>>135570394
What are you talking about, goatfucker ?

>>135575120

It is not contentious. But the supremacy of one of the holy sees over the other four, however, is contentious and heretical.

How are protestants who will take no notice of supposed papal infallibility going to be affected by this declaration, lmao.

>>135561050
Religion threads go in /his/
>>>/his/
> Welcome to /his/ - History & Humanities >Anonymous ## Mod Mod Icon >11/01/15(Sun)03:36:48 No.27939 Sticky Closed [Reply]▶
> This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

>>135575381
>Yep, St. Paul never received a message from God. You have no idea what you are talking about. Just stop
Irony, cunt.
Wether Paulus claimed to speak with divine authority or not is his thing and changes little about the ex cathedra rule.

>Stop retreating.
Literally wrote it before you joined the thread already, retard.
> I'm debating you on your claims.
Nope, you're mostly writing dumb unrelated shit which disproves nothing and then act like you made a point.

Malachi Martin said this on Art Bells radio show in 1996 too so you can't blame this one on the current Anti Pope its clearly been the churches position for decades.

He said a good Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, etc would get a chance to accept Jesus. I think he meant they would go to purgatory (something also not mentioned in the bible.) He did however say it's very different for them to be good enough people for this to happen which is slightly uncucked but not good enough.

Uncucked Protestantism is the true religion of the white man. Even if you have to self study to achieve it because everyone else around you is cucked. Jesus wants America to be WASP!

>>135575690
God forbid that something slightly less retarded than PJW's latest video or Trump's latest tweet gets discussed.

I just hope that someone like Christoph Schönborn to replace this false pope.

>>135575758
I thought the stance on non-believers was they only got the post-death second chance at accepting Christ if their reason for not accepting him in life was ignorance towards him and his teachings
a convinced jew wouldn't get a second chance

>>135575690
I hate self important little cunts like you.
It isn't your job to police discussion bitch.
Fucking snitch.

i ditched Catholicism over 10 years ago, never looked back

but never felt the need to replace it with another (((Abrahamic))) cult

>>135575648
So you think they don't agree on the virginity of mary?

>>135574220
>So which little sect are you from, Johnny?
Somewhere between Westboro Baptist and Torquemada.

>>135561050
>or Orthodox
B8

>>135561050
Poland just needs to make its own pope Jesus Christ

>>135562988
This just isn't true according to most polls.

>>135562930
>Says Islam has the same god
They do. Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same god. Jesus is a prophet in Islam.

>>135569734
>>135571648
It's a CIA nigger divide and conquer term used against people that make their posts more readable instead of a giant wall of text.

>>135577182
yeah but Jesus is God also, they dont believe that

>>135577565
By that logic Jews don't believe in the same God.

>>135577691
that's what people are saying!

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>2017
>doubting even for a second holy mother church

>>135561050
That picture.. LMAO

Is Christianity = Judaism without kike privileges (owning banks, Hollywood)

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>>135562930
fuck the pope he's a heretic

The "Jews, Muslims, and Christians" worship the same God meme is one world religion propaganda and it primes white christians to be more accepting of refugees thus destroying their faith and their race. In the Quran, Allah is described using terms that directly contradict the terms used to describe the Christian God. Allah is described as the Great Deceiver ffs. Jews and Muslims worship Satan. So does the current Pope.

>>135569162
>UN flag
checks out

>>135561050
What saves is God's grace. If He wants, He saves pagans

>>135577182
>Jews worship
No they don't, they worship Satan

Islam is iffy, as they think that Jesus was a prophet but not God. They're pretty much a Nestorian heresy mixed with some iconoclast, topped up with Jewish traditions (kosher/halal) and sprinkles of Zoroastrianism (cleanliness, call to prayer, wearing white, praying 5 times a day, etc).

>>135565748
I find it odd it doesnt anything about altered states of mind like drug use, 'demonic possesion' doesnt seem to fit in this

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>>135561050
Atheism is the final redpill. Knowing you are the reason for your problems and victories is the ultimate truth, and that your kindness is it's own reward. No need for space zombies or any of that shit.

>>135587040
>Atheism is the final redpill.

really the final
thats like the first one when you turn 12 years old and see pictures of globes and dinosaurs in ur textbook

>>135561050
Thats what we call the deceiver. Clearly he is some type of anti-pope.

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>>135587491
theres no such thing as an anti-pope theyre all satanic popes since day 1

the catholic church isnt legitimate

>>135563645

> Muslims worship the same God
> Muslims worship an ancient moon deity

>>135587040
>Biggest bluepill there is
>It's actually THE redpill
>t. Moshe

>>135588150
this man knows

>>135587040
>(((Atheism)))
It's a product of the rampant hyeprconsumerist culture and secularization caused by Jewry and freemasons.

>>135588150
>St. Paul is satanic
I bet you think St. Paul's cross is "satanic".

>>135588790
Submit to (true) Rome.

http://www.biblicalcatholic.com/apologetics/num52.htm

>>135564010
The whole "Islamic Mahdi is the Christian Antichrist" thing is a meme. It is parroted by proddie retards like the guy in your video who have zero historical knowledge of either Church history (real Church history, not proddie mythology) or know anything about the classical Middle East prior to the rise of Islam.

Just like how the Islamic Jesus is a Muslim appropriation of early Christian pseudepigraphal texts and Arian Christology, the Islamic Mahdi is an appropriation of the Great Catholic Monarch.
Basically, the Great Catholic Monarch is a myth in some circles of super-traditional Catholicism that goes back to pseudepigraphal writings in the early Church, where there would be this great Christian leader that would unite the world under Christianity prior to the rise of the Antichrist.

Just like with everything else, Muslim scholars from the Islamic Golden Age stole the idea from Christian fan fiction that has since been lost to time.

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Someday humanity will collectively surpass a certain level of ethical, psychological & physiological progress, and all the warped minds & warped genetics who dominate the planet today will be extinct.

That that repulsive genetic/psychological specimen dubbed with the meangingless title of "the pope".

*Including. -_-

>>135590671
considering the world worships the antichrist then yea the muslims worship the antichrist too

>>135588150
>theres no such thing as an anti-pope theyre all satanic popes since day 1
Define day 1.

This is something Protestants usually aren't able to do in any solid way. If by "day 1" you mean St. Peter, then that is obviously heresy. There is no time after that in the development of the Catholic Church that you could clearly say "the office of the papacy is now fundamentally different from how it was before".

The Bishop of Rome gradually accumulated more power compared to the other bishops of the Pentarchy. The bishops of the other four major cities of the Pentarchy began referring to the Bishop of Rome as first among equals.

When the Bishop of Rome broke off to do his own thing, you could point at that and say "that's the first pope", which would also be wrong. There was nothing theologically different in the office of the Papacy after the schism - it was a political change.

If you want to say that when papal infallibility became a dogma then that is "day 1", then you'd have to make "day 1" the First Vatican Council in the 1800's.

I used to be a proddie. Then I learned real Church history and it refuted every proddie meme I'd ever believed in.

>>135591489
I didn't say that they wouldn't worship the Antichrist. I was not arguing in favor of Muslims.

If you read the post, you'd know that I was just saying that the story of the Mahdi is not some true prophecy about the Antichrist where he's a good guy for Muslims. It's just something else that early Muslim scholars took from early Christian pseudepigrapha.

What's the popes view upon the ten commandments. Specifically the fourth one people forget and how it begins with 'Remember...'

Literally all these liberal translations of what the pope/vatican says is bs

>>135571414
>done with that church
And thus a Protocuck is born. Which obscure denomination of Protestantism are you going to convert my man?
http://protestantism.co.uk/denominations

>>135591660
>>135591660
For the first 280 years of Christian history, Christianity was banned by the Roman Empire, and Christians were terribly persecuted. This changed after the “conversion” of the Roman Emperor Constantine. Constantine provided religious toleration with the Edict of Milan in AD 313, effectively lifting the ban on Christianity. Later, in AD 325, Constantine called the Council of Nicea in an attempt to unify Christianity. Constantine envisioned Christianity as a religion that could unite the Roman Empire, which at that time was beginning to fragment and divide. While this may have seemed to be a positive development for the Christian church, the results were anything but positive. Just as Constantine refused to fully embrace the Christian faith, but continued many of his pagan beliefs and practices, so the Christian church that Constantine promoted was a mixture of true Christianity and Roman paganism.

Constantine found that, with the Roman Empire being so vast, expansive, and diverse, not everyone would agree to forsake his or her religious beliefs to embrace Christianity. So, Constantine allowed, and even promoted, the “Christianization” of pagan beliefs. Completely pagan and utterly unbiblical beliefs were given new “Christian” identities.


When the Western half of the Roman Empire collapsed in 476, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors—Pontifex Maximus. Pope Gregory I, ruling from 590–604, is usually considered the first bishop to truly wield papal authority.

>>135561050
>religious
>redpilled

lol no

>>135562919

> Christians believe you are saved as long as you believe in Jesus or burn in Hell for eternity.

So ignoring truth and following lies will lead you to heaven?

You seem smart.

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I seriously don't understand how a person can look at the Jewish people at large or any individual Jewish person without being immediately reviled and disgusted. I just don't get it. I grew up in a majority Jewish neighborhood and I couldn't stand the sight of them even as a young child who didn't know anything about history or religion, it was just a natural gut-reaction. I don't understand how a person can look at a Jew and think "oh, he/she seems nice." They're off putting on some indescribable and transcendent plane. The Jews have been ousted from every civilization because they are naturally disgusting and antisemitism doesn't have to be substantiated, it is a naturally occurring thing in every body of people.

I don't mean "I don't understand" in a sardonic female "omg I can't even" kind of way, I am sincerely admitting that I have a limited perspective on things and I want somebody to explain this to me. How is outright antisemitism not as universal in all people? It is like saying, "not all people need water or food to survive." It seems so organic and implicit. Just look at this disgusting gremlin. It is like a hygiene thing, like how people are naturally averse to literal shit because of our biologically-programmed fear of/defense against disease and sickness. Jews look like they'd make you sick and give you a disease from contact alone.

So that is my blog post, please feel free to comment your thoughts below and don't forget to like and subscribe

>>135569734
Literally scroll the screen using your mouse wheel, you lazy fuck.

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>>135571316
My God, You're right. WTF.

>>135589542
Submit to (true) Rome.

get lost satan

>>135571316
Because he's a Jew. His mother is literally Jewish. It amazes me how this isn't well known, it really does.
Do you know the punishment for memeing as the Pope when you aren't even Christian? Crucifixion.

>>135561050
Reeeeeeeeeeeeee
Pharisees will not be saved

>>135563478
>Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity.
took me two seconds to see that you're full of shit so not going to bother with the rest

>>135563919
it absolutely does not say that anywhere in the bible. In fact Paul anguishes over the fact that many jews will not be saved.

>Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them.

sorry but the old covenant means jackshit

>>135569086
>gets asked where in the bible it says such a thing
> "just trust me ya dumbfuck"
thanks for wasting everyones time

>>135597992
Byzantines lost the rest of the Pentarchy.

Only the bishop of rome, heir to St. Paul, is still around.

>>135586595
every single time