Here's my take on the immanent Balkanization of America.

>>135558589
get that faggot confed shit out of texas.
we stand alone.

>>135559307
It's just hypothetical

>>135558589
I'd give the buffalo region to the United States.

Why would there still be state borders?

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>>135558589

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>>135558589

>United States
>still existing after after a Civil War

pick one

Also,

>Missouri
>Kentucky
>West Virginia
>Maryland
>remaining part of the Union

Get the fuck outta here. All the South belongs the CSA.

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>>135558589
Can KY be part of New Germania and Dixie?

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>>135559812

God Bless TX

>>135559897
Missouri is not southern.
We are midwestern, German Diaspora.

>>135559897
Thanks, I love when the South keeps us(KY).

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>>135560121

>Missouri is not southern

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>>135558589
I love seeing Jefferson, but I think you'l have to take into consideration the actual demographics of each region to get an accurate view of what the country will look like in 2030 or 2060

>>135559681
I'm just showing how it would overlay on state

>>135560023
>New Germania

Yeah, uhhh... About that...

https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21642222-americas-largest-ethnic-group-has-assimilated-so-well-people-barely-notice-it

>>135559636
Look closley I did

>>135559897
Maryland here, those of us outside of the fucking big cities still remember, and still wish to rejoin our fellow sister states.

"Let me tell you what is coming. After the sacrifice of countless millions of treasure and hundreds of thousands of lives, you may win Southern independence if God be not against you, but I doubt it. I tell you that, while I believe with you in the doctrine of states rights, the North is determined to preserve this Union. They are not a fiery, impulsive people as you are, for they live in colder climates. But when they begin to move in a given direction, they move with the steady momentum and perseverance of a mighty avalanche; and what I fear is, they will overwhelm the South" - Sam Houston

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>>135561245

Oh Maryland... My Maryland...

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>>135560039
>>135559812
>>135559307
Fixed it

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>>135558589
>Missouri
>Kentucky
>West Virginia
>Maryland

>not southern

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>>135561343
One day, we will spurn the Northern Scum, one day.

>>135561632
From a geopolitical standpoint, it just doesn't make sense for Texas to be separate from the CSA

>>135558589
>BC
>joining with anyone besides the Yukon

Aside from libtards in Vancouver the rest of BC thinks uniting with the most retarded left wing US states would be stupid.

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Find a flaw

>>135558589
>Russians have been trying to divide America since 1943
>Still hasn't happened
Unlike Russia, we're not weak traitors who stab each other in the back. We stay united because united we stand.

>>135561783
I did it for all the complaining texans

>>135561632
It physically hurts me to say but Oklahoma would side with Texas over the other southern states.

>>135562008
That faggot Jerrycuck bird slapped in the middle of it

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>>135562008
I don't want my country to die.

>>135562008
Texas is separate form the CSA
Panama isn't a part of Colombia
Mexico isn't controlling Belize,Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Costa Rica
Up state NY and the Maritime provinces aren't a part of New England

>>135562353
this 100%

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Here's one from somekind of book, seems like fantasy. I know one made with actual data that shows US fragmentation but not gonna show that one.

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>>135561740

>>135562353
It's dead already. It needs to balkanize and become something new. Evola was right about American society.

>>135561634
Maryland, Missouri, and Kentucky weren't part of the the original CSA. West Virginia broke away

>>135562008
YES
You're the first person to EVER get Cascadia and Deseret right! I salute you. Although I'm a bit uncertain about Quebec not taking all of southern Labrador. They'd kill for that shit

>>135562353
You'd rather support your country than your nation? What does a Californian have in common with an Alabaman?

>>135562441

I think that was written by an ex-KGB officer IIRC

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>>135558589
quit trying to meme this gay shit. we'll reign the commies and kikes in and the usa will be great again.

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>>135562008

>Midwest
>taking rightful Southern clay

Please save your expansionist autism for the West Coast thank you.

>>135562673
You are naive to think that America will survive until 2100.

>>135562574
Doesn't seem so, the author is Colin Woodard who is a journalist, or I am not looking good enough

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>>135561632
Texas needs her Lebensraum, too.

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>>135559307
>¡estamos solo amigo!
>legacy captcha: MEXICO

>>135558589
The US will not Balkanize. It isn't regionally splintered at all, the economies are too intertwined. If anything it will be a Spanish Civil War scenario where there's an irregular split between urban and suburban/rural strongholds. Russia, the UK, Spain, or Italy are more likely to Balkanize than the US.

>>135562008
Mexico still exists

>>135562963

Guess I was wrong.

>>135563158

Except Spain is a very small country by comparison and with the exception of the Basque has a monoculture. It was relatively easy for Franco to keep the country together after the war. It would more or less impossible to do that here.

>>135562353
I don't want it to die either, but it's gonna happen. America is just way too big and it's going deeper into debt. My guess, is that if some Bernie sander. Socialist ever gets into office, (which it probably will happen within the next 25 years) that'll be the death scentence of America

This is why I'm actually kinda glad he lost the primary. Had he won, we wouldn't even have lasted 8 years

>>135563158
On a long enough time base, everything will balkanize, and not when you expect it either

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>>135558589
Nah, here's what I think will happen

>tension between left and right escalates
>eventually there are race riots / ideology riots
>shuts down the country for a few days
>a few people get killed
>politicians shit the bed
>people realise actually they don't want a full blown race war
>everyone commits to a future america of hating each other less - including blaming white people less - to stop the country tearing itself apart

Screencap this, because it will happen.

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>>135562008
perfect

>>135561970
That's why I only had part of BC uniting with Washington

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>>135562507
>What does a Californian have in common with an Alabaman?


>implying there cannot exist multitudes of both Californians and Alabamans who speak American English, drink coke, eat burgers, play baseball, listen to the same Folk songs and the same patriotic anthems, hold the same political and moral values, share the same history and race, who live in roughly the same type of terrain, and pray to the same Triune God of our forefathers

>>135562476
Maryland tried to join, and was occupied after the good people of Baltimore opened fire on the Massachusetts regiment Abe sent there, knowing it would start a fight, as Maryland told him they did not want to shed fellow American blood, but that if they had to pick a side, it would be the South.Many Marylanders fled to Virginia only to get shot for it.

West Virginia was separated by Abe, with most of those in western Virginia not really carrying about the war, as it was sparsely populated.

Funny story about WV, there is a town there who fought for both the North, and the South. In short they wanted to be left the hell alone(as did most hillbillies) and so downed both uniforms depending on who showed up, and chased em out.

>>135562469
>Russian shill wants America to divide itself
Not going to happen, Russian. We stand united against your evil.

>>135562441
What's wrong with the second one?

>>135558589
>Ky
>Not part of Dixie
Wtf are you doing kid?

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>>135562495
Deseret is rit based on the original boundaries. Realistically, I don't think many of those places would join Deseret since they're maybe only 15% Mormon

>>135563503
No it fucking won't. Not with (((them))) around and not when we're $19-20 Trillion down the fucking whole. When and or if we fall the whole world is going to collapse economically. There will be major civil and racial unrest. Wars will break out, nations that are doing better off will join in and pick a side, others will take over land. Mexico, Canada, Russia, England, other European nations, and some Asian ones will all join in if we fall and it's going to be one giant fucking clusterfuck to the point the very ideas and beliefs of the Founding Fathers are lost to time and destruction. If we fall it's the end. You're scenario is unrealistic.

>>135563942
hole*

>>135563375
>. It was relatively easy for Franco to keep the country together after the war. It would more or less
You have no idea what you're talking about. Basque country, Galicia, Castille, Catalonia all have distinct regional cultures with their own dialects. If it's impossible to keep the US together, what's preventing it from falling into chaos right now? It surely isn't pure force. People aren't naturally inclined to rebel.

>>135563497
Exactly wrong. In the long stretch of history everything has converged, modern technology has sped this process a thousandfold.

>>135563503
Have you ever been to the ghetto? I got yelled at about racist cops just gfor being present. These people hate white poeple so much that of half of. What you said happened then a full blown race war will break out. Here's what I think would happen

The US would be so deep in debt that it would collapse. Then people would form new nations from the rubble. Kinda like what happened to the USSR

>>135563664
Accusing someone of being a Russian shill on 4chan? Well that's a first.

>>135563831
Mormons are cool people, and some of the best to live besides, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a Theocracy of them. Delve deep enough and you will lean they there are three kinds of Mormons.

Jack Mormons, those who only follow it as its their parents religion, and act normal.
Church Mormons, those who are like 90-95% normal Christians, besides some retelling of the Holy Bible.
Temple Mormons...Holy shit, these are true Mormons, and as different from Christianity as Islam is. Should Deseret become real, even if its only Utah, be ready for ISIS in the U.S.

>>135563977

Well the Basque are the only ones who seem to be really want independence to the point of bombing people so it's a little to forget about lil' Catalonia.

>If it's impossible to keep the US together, what's preventing it from falling into chaos right now?

An army of nearly three million men, the largest and most intrusive security apparatus in existence, and common identity. The latter of which would completely disintegrate in a civil war along with the first two if the government collapses.

Some might argue the American identity is already disintegrating.

>>135563158
Italy and Spain are balkanizing in the next 10 years, guaranteed. Spain is gonna start in October. As for America, its way to big of a country. Every country ever to have gotten that big eventually fell apart. Spanish empire, French empir,e roman, Mongolian, British, and list goes on. The USSR fell apart 25 years ago from being too deep into debt. That is exactly what I think will happen to America.

Whatever you do, don't vote in any left wing candidates. They will push socialist policies that will destroy the country sooner than its supposed to

>>135563664
>not going to happen
Says the guy with a confederate flag

>>135562083
That's what Jews want you to do so they can perform white genocide.

>>135564146
>Then people would form new nations from the rubble. Kinda like what happened to the USSR
No, it would be like China and the US would try to reconstitute itself. The USSR collapsed when nations with identities long separate from Russia, like Poland or Lithuania, separated. There is no such thing in the US, which has a geopolitical core in the Mississippi basin and thus is immune to disintegrative splits of that kind.

>>135562008
Deseret too big, CSA shouldn't include west va or ky, Texas too big, cali too small

>>135563977
>In the long stretch of history everything has converged, modern technology has sped this process a thousandfold.
If you say so.
My sources tell a different story.

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>>135564506
>Should Deseret become real, even if its only Utah, be ready for ISIS in the U.S.

Mormons are closer to Jews Tbh.

Turtledove definitely blew an opportunity when he was writing Southern Victory by making the Mormons parallel Islamic fundamentalists and not European Jews.

>>135563651
That right there is when Maryland stopped becoming the south. Even northern Virginia isn't the south. Any more

That west va story is kinda funny though

>>135562476

Maryland was occupied by Union forces and its "wrong" legistlators found themselves in jail.

Kentucky's elections were tampered by the Union Occupation Commander, many legislators, judges, and even the Lieutenant Governor were imprisoned.

I don't know much about Missouri's role in it, but I think they were also reigned in via coercion.

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>>135564635
>pls, America. divide yourselves so Russia can attack the world
Not happening.

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>>135564957
>Even northern Virginia isn't the south. Any more

It will be again once we start shipping Carpetbaggers to Andersonvillewitz and turn them into fertilizer.

>>135564566
Catalonia is more likely to become independent than the Basques.

>An army of nearly three million men, the largest and most intrusive security apparatus in existence, and common identity. The latter of which would completely disintegrate in a civil war along with the first two if the government collapses.
That's a fucking lie. A small fraction of the American population can easily pull off a rebellion. I already dismissed the idea that it's sheer force holding it together, it's something else and not "common identity," as if we're not an empire.

>>135564572
Wow, that pseudologic. Roman empire took six-hundred years to collapse after the Punic Wars, spanning a multitude of different ethnicities, languages, and religions. China never collapsed despite exceeding the US in size multiple times through its history.

>>135564820
What you said can't even be argued with because not only does it not have any supporting evidence, but it's even intuitively wrong. That's how misguided you are.

>>135565086
>yes, Russia is the enemy. We should bomb Russia, those evil goyim
Fuck off boomer

>>135558589
Alaska is rightful Russian clay.

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>>135564660
What the hell do mormons have in common with Catholics? Northerners and southoners? The Rocky Mountains and the Great Plains?

There will always be rivalries between different parts of a country. But it's not like America. As much as I love this country, it's a monstrosity. A country this big isn't supposed to last. China should have broken up already. I'm not sure why they haven't.

The south has been gone for decades; it's rittled with meth, mudsharks, fake christians, the lowest tier black American's and statists

>>135559897
>wanting any of those states

Missouri Kentucky and Maryland are shit poor with nothing of value and West Virginia only exists because of anti confederates and so would just be a force of enemies within your walls

>>135558589
>Mid Atlantic trash in new England
Fuck off outta here

>>135562083
Yeah? So what about all those illegals and refugees we've been taking in?

>>135558589
Idaho should be part of Deseret. Nevada is a stretch desu. Texas should be alone and Cascadia is a retarded pipe dream. Washington and Oregon are liberal as fuck and would either form some uber leftist nation or just merge with California. Idk why Arizona is independent northern AZ should be Deseret and the rest could be pieced out to TX and California.

>>135565288
>A small fraction of the American population can easily pull off a rebellion.

Aye, but getting that rebellion off the ground is vastly more difficult when the NSA is reading all forms of online communication and the FBI regularly set up honeypots for potential revolutionaries.

>it's something else and not "common identity," as if we're not an empire

Ask anyone from any part of the country what he/she identifies as, and there's a 99% chance you're going to get "American" as the answer. There's still a sense of national identity, albeit one that grows more and more strained by the day.

>>135563036
> wanting niggers from the east nig nogging all over your divine land
> wanting beaners from the west bean bagging all over your divine land

Wtf man. Texas would cut off its lower south half and ally with OK, the midwest, great Plains, and even as far north as Alberta. Houston would be the busiest city in the world

>>135565470
>Russia has been the enemy for 100 years
>They're good now
>trust me they pay me shekels to say this online

>>135565817
>Pls America focus on illegals and let Russia be evil
Weak shill argument.

>>135562631
>limited access to deep water ports directly on the ocean that don't freeze over in winter
Doomed from the start.

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>>135565629
>Maryland
>poor
Wanna try again?
It's just Baltimore(niggers lol) that brings us to even that low.
Poverty rate was at 24% in 2014 lol nigs gon nog

>>135558589
the US wont balkanize

>>135558589
>e immanent Balkanization of America

>not largely libertarian ethnostates

fuck off, retard

>>135565868
>he isn't a complete fucking retard like me, he must be a shill
Kekistani logic. Why are Russia so evil then, you little boomer cuck?

>>135558589
There will be no imminent balkanisation. It has to be supported by the groups that support it and sadly there is no large Cascadian, Southern, New Englander, Atzlan or Black independence movements.

They exist, but they're heavily fringe.

>>135565863
>not wanting control over the delta of the biggest river in North America
Thank God you aren't a strategist responsible for this shit.
It is almost guaranteed that Louisiana sticks with Texas. The economy and cultures are too intermingled to prevent this.
Fuck, Texas was made Anglo by Louisiana southerners. There is no separating the two.

>>135565520
>What the hell do mormons have in common with Catholics? Northerners and southoners? The Rocky Mountains and the Great Plains?
Mormons and Catholics are practically indistinguishable. The differences are 100% artificial and will disappear in an instant when there is anything at stake. The once-dreaded Samnites maintained their identity while remaining loyal to Rome, even as Hannibal ravaged the countryside. You have no idea how human beings think, do you?

>A country this big isn't supposed to last. China should have broken up already. I'm not sure why they haven't.
That should tell you your instincts are wrong. China has not broken up for geographic reasons. Despite encompassing multiple distinct ethnicites, despite Mao's killing of tens of millions of people, it has held together for geographic reasons. It has a eastern breadbasket circumscribed by border regions. I fnaything the US is more geographically secure than China because the Mississippi basin is the most productive agricultural region in the world, and is linked by river and sea to the East Coast and by Panama Canal/highway to the West Coast. Surrounded by weak neighbors and ocean. As long as these facts remain true, and it will for the foreseeable future, the US will not fragment.

>>135565853
>Aye, but getting that rebellion off the ground is vastly more difficult when the NSA is reading all forms of online communication and the FBI regularly set up honeypots for potential revolutionaries.
That should tell you everything. An incompetent, corrupt bureaucracy is all that's needed to keep things in check. Nothing can stop the fury of the people when people are starving in the streets. As long as the breadbasket remains productive, nothing major will happen.

>>135562268
It's ok, Soonerbro. We're in this together.

>>135565288
Basque American here. Believe me, they're gonna become independent. They usually vote for the basque nationalist party, even in the general election sometimes. They've been trying to get a referendum going, but Madrid always shuts it down. One day, one of two things is gonna happen. The basques are gonna go rogue again, and bomb the shit out of Madrid until the get independence. The other,r they say fuck it like the catalans and hold a referendum regardless of what Madrid says.

As for the romana empire thing, they lasted because people were afraid to stand up. Every rebelllion got crushed. I don't think America I think it will,be an economic collapse

As for China, I have no idea why they haven't Balkanized yet

>>135565513
Not since 1867

>>135560121
And nigger diaspora.

>>135565701
Arcadia, not New England

>>135563558
Except the plan is to clean Vancouver of the trash and make every place here great again. We have a longer history than just being a province of Cuckada and we won't give up any of our land

>>135562008
WHERE DID CAPE COD GO!?!?

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>>135563942
>>135563971
The US debt was higher after WWII, so why should I think that it's suddenly going to cause a catastrophe now? Why should I listen to some crank theory on /pol/?

Also the US already went through an actual civil war and survived, mate.

>>135564146
>These people hate white poeple so much that of half of. What you said happened then a full blown race war will break out.
No it won't because most people don't have the balls / can't be arsed to back up their words with action.

Seriously are you like 12 years old? You seem to have no grasp on reality whatsoever.

>>135566719
and also the BC interior would never stay a part of Canada in the event of any kind of independence. We absolutely loathe Ottawa here were sympathetic to Vancouver because it got invaded against its will by draft dodgers but we hate eastern Canada

>>135558589

The political divide in the United States isn't regional, its urban vs. rural.

>ITT: People who have no clue about the distribution of people within the US, and are just drawing MEME maps because it looks cool

If you want an actual intelligent proposal about how the United States would balkanize, watch this video. It takes into account current party affiliation, race, and other variables.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGnluyj-IQM

>>135564506
I live in Utah and can confirm. You can spot Temple Mormons from a mile away. Most Mormons are exceptionally normal they just have a lot of kids and don't curse or drink. Jack Mormons and ex Mos are everywhere and are normal as fuck. Ex Mormons tend to be a little degenerate though. In the Wasatch Front especially Salt Lake County it's majority non Mormon and is normal. Start getting down into Provo and it's 98% Mormon with temple Mormons everywhere. I think if Deseret was an independent country it would be pretty comfy desu. If they were too crazy I would just convert and pop out 10 kids.

>>135565863
I enjoy visiting Northern Mexico and they would make great Texans with a little touch eugenics, and they would help evict the California diaspora. Louisiana is our fellow kin, too, and would gladly side with us. All others are insignificant, so they will either submit, or be forcibly evicted.

>>135566417
Mormons believe Jesus serviced the crucifixion and came to America, where he preached the sermon on the mount to Indians. Mormons also believe Cherokee Indians are decendents if one of the lost tribes of Israel. But yeah keep telling me how mormons and Catholics are the same

>>135566312
There will be and it'll be due to economic collapse

>>135558589
Shoud make everything south of Utah and east of the Gulf Mexico. If the US balkanizes, they'd all choose to be annexed.

>>135567037
Exactly. That's one of the main reasons why "balkanisation" is stupid.

The US has always had an urban/rural divide though - same with Britain. America might well have some race riots again, in fact I'm sure it will, and some interesting political happenings, but balkanisation seems like a ridiculous suggestion.

>>135566061
Holy shit libertarians are annoying go suck Austin petersons cock

>>135567391
>East
Whoops I meant Weast

>>135565966
There are plenty of landlocked countries that are survinving without ports

>>135566061
Lolbertarians can suck my fascist cock, deal with it.

>>135565853
>there's a 99% chance you're going to get "American"
In New York there's a 99% chance you won't get American

>>135567011
Bernie sanders wife used bernies economic policies to bankrupt a random college in Vermont.

A Bernie style socialist will get elected in my lifetime, and that will cause the bankruptcy of America. Forget the world war 2 debt. This will be bigger

As for the race war thing, have you ever been to America? Just get a nigger riled up enough and he'll chimp out to the point where he'll destroy everything in his path. It's happened like a hundred times in the past 3 years

>>135566548
The Roman Empire did Balkanize. Many many times. The first was during the Crisis of the #rd century, when under pressure from barbarian invasions and unrest in the military the empire split into the Gallic, Palmyrene, and Gallic empires. This was re-united under Aurelian. Then under Diocletian it split in fours before being re-united under Constantine. This automatically happens for a circumscribed polity. China has gone through phases of regionalization but always re-constituted itself. The answer is geography, which dictates the terms of history.

>>135567256
I know all about the Mormons and their whacko beliefs. Shit like "magic underwear" is not going to matter when the chips are down. They speak English, are Christian, know how to read, and are genetically European and thus share at least 95% common ground with you. Again, go back to the example I gave of the Samnites resisting Hannibal: not too long prior, the Samnites waged not one, but two mutual wars of annihilation against Rome that lasted for years and pushed Rome to the brink. The US hasn't endured anything remotely as divisive.

>>135568329
> the Crisis of the #rd century, when under pressure from barbarian invasions and unrest in the military the empire split into the Gallic, Palmyrene, and Gallic empires
meant
the Crisis of the 3rd century, when under pressure from barbarian invasions and unrest in the military the empire split into the Gallic, Palmyrene, and Italian empires

>>135567037
>>135567413
It's not even an urban rural divide. I live in New York City. Most people here hate anyone who lives outside the cities borders. Philly? Fuck you. Chicago? Fuck you. La? Fuck yin even more. Atlanta? Just kill you self at that point

>>135568633
>I live in New York City
Fuck you.

>>135568633
What's it like living in a trash city?

>>135558589
>Virginia joining the Confederacy in modern times

yeah no

>>135568329
As for China, I have no idea why they haven't Balkanized, because basically all of western China isn't even Chinese. They're Tibetan, uyghurs, turkenistani

As for the Mormon thing, there's something I finally agree with you on. But the divide is getting worse and worse, so don't act surprised when some Mormon wants to no,b the shit outta st. Pats cathedral

>>135569396
Maybe not northern Virginia but definelty southern virginia

>>135569181
Just checkout my thread on /trv/
>>>/trv/1276815

>>135568774
I know I hate it too.

>>135569708
>As for China, I have no idea why they haven't Balkanized, because basically all of western China isn't even Chinese. They're Tibetan, uyghurs, turkenistani
I've already addressed this, multiple times. The Han Chinese core between the Yellow and Yangtze rivers creates a stable base of power, surrounding by secure border regions on all sides except the northeast, which is why North Korea exists.

>But the divide is getting worse and worse, so don't act surprised when some Mormon wants to no,b the shit outta st. Pats cathedral
Again, no substance. Nothing is going to happen unless the harvests fail in the Midwest, the supply routes are cut off preventing imports, and the government is committing massacres. When will that happen? When will that ever happen? Can you tell me? I don't think so.Whatever conflict will be ideological/ethnic, not regional.

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>>135569396

Virginia IS the Confederacy you moron

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>>135559307
Every fuckin time with you people. What is so fuckin special about your state? Is infested with Mexicans and it's cities are either shit holes or occupied by hipsters. Get over yourselves.

>>135570389
Holy fucking shit are you retarded? I have literally said multiple times, I'm basing this off of heightening tensions, and assuming that the debt you increases to an uncontrollable point in my lifetime. Fucking shit you're blind

>>135566652
The south is the nigger diaspora, even the whites there have nigger blood

>>135571842
>I'm basing this off of heightening tensions
muh fuzzy adjectives

>assuming that the debt you increases to an uncontrollable point in my lifetime
You know the vast majority of that debt is held by private US firms? No different from bonds, securities, or other forms of money tied to the market? Assuming the bubble pops, many of these firms will go under, but there is no reason to believe this will lead to mass starvation or regional Balkanization.

>Fucking shit you're blind
Quit sperging like an autist and click back up the comment chain: not once did you mention debt to support your vague Millenarian notions of collapse. You pointed to the debt of the Soviet Union, but it wasn't debt that did them in but their inability to maintain the arms race with the US and the resulting stagnant growth. Debt isn't a problem, it's a deficit with no growth to keep up.

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>>135569891
“In time, even death itself might be abolished; who knows but it may be given to us after this life to meet again in the old quarters, to play chess and draughts, to get up soon to answer the morning role call, to fall in at the tap of the drum for drill and dress parade, and again to hastily don our war gear while the monotonous patter of the long roll summons to battle.

Who knows but again the old flags, ragged and torn, snapping in the wind, may face each other and flutter, pursuing and pursued, while the cries of victory fill a summer day? And after the battle, then the slain and wounded will arise, and all will meet together under the two flags, all sound and well, and there will be talking and laughter and cheers, and all will say, Did it not seem real? Was it not as in the old days?”

— Private Barry Benson, Army of Northern Virginia, 1880

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>>135562353
It's been long dead. What you call the USA is merely an economic zone ruled over by zionists/kikes with an iron fist. They only wave the flag to make stupid white men jump out of airplanes to go kill their white cousins.

>>135565629
WV is culturally Dixie today. Far more than Maryland, and really moreso than a few actual old CSA states.

>>135558589
idaho would join with utah before nevada as I think there are actually more mormons in idaho

>>135574610
Is that so? I was always under the impression they never really like the south since they separated, after all

>>135575550
Maybe southern Idaho but the north Is say I had a safe bet putting it in the Rocky Mountain country

>>135575767
Yeah it should probably be split if we're looking at cultural areas

>>135560121
>Missouri is midwestern
Kansas here, kill yourself

I FUCKING HATE MY STATE ILLINOIS! THIS STATE FUCKING SUCKS! NIGGERS AND SPICS EVERYWHERE AND RACE MIXING RACE TRAITOR CUNTS! FUCK THIS PLACE! ITS BEEN BANKRUPT FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG AND SHIT NEEDS TO JUST BURN ALREADY! RACE WAR NOW!

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>>135575935

>Florida
>Nazi
>FL is full of Jews, Cubans, or some repulsive combination of the two

>>135576938
wrong

>>135575935
why is the national socialist flag on Florida?

>>135559307
A lone Republic of Texas would be annexed by Mexico before you could count to cinco. Texas is better together with it's Dixie allies.

>>135565966
>what is the port of Baltimore, NYC and New Jersey

>>135560913
Okay Yoda

>>135575767
I imagine northern Arizona, southern Idaho, Utah, and some of Nevada would be Deseret.

>>135565966
This isn't the 1800s. We do have a little thing called planes and roads.

>>135558589
>immanent
NIGGER DETECTED

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>>135577669
You're a fucking idiot

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>>135577669
You're a fucking idiot, part 2

>>135576965

*South Florida

>>135558589
>New Jersey in the 13 colonies
no thanks I'd rather die

>>135571614
This, viva la mexico tejas

>>135558589
NEW ENGLAND CONSISTS OF 6 AND ONLY 6 STATES GET NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, PENNSYLVANIA, DELASHIT, MARYLAND OUT RIGHT FUCKING NOW AND PUT US BACK WITH NEW ENGLAND
t. VT.

>>135583250
I was just gonna make one giant northeast country and not call it New England but you're idea is good too

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>>135558589
>that perfectly strait diagonal line across Montana and Wyoming
for what purpose?

>>135583926
The Rocky Mountains